>>25794421 I bet you browse /pol/ you edgy and contrarian faggot >dont believe teh joo lies!!! >teh media is ebil!!!! >all experts on climat change ar wrong!!! Fuck their phd's in the subject xdd!!! >im not gunna vote because we get fucked both ways xdd!! >withold rights from people i disagree wit!!! Kill yourself.
I think Elliot's dad was a disloyal piece of shit, I think you should stand by your son no matter what he does I think that if you do consider what Elliot did to be evil and unjustified (which I personally don't) you should take full responsibility Peter rodger is as responsible for the deaths as Elliot himself It's also possible that the holocaust numbers are inflated somewhat, but I wouldn't outright say I deny the holocaust happened, just that perhaps the systematic genocide wasn't as planned out as we are told it was
Justice doesn't exist. No one deserves anything or is entitled to a single right.
There's no way in hell I'd want to infringe on anyone's life, but people need to stop deluding themselves that "everyone deserves to be loved" or that "everyone deserves a chance"
We've got the necessary resources for everyone to be happy on earth, but I can guarantee you; we are collectively filled with more hate than love. If a person or persons ends humanity, it won't be out of hate or spite, but out of a long series of disappointments and realizations.
I think providing aid to developing countries does a lot more harm than good because these people have become reliant on Western aid and one day that will run out and then they'll be completely screwed
People always complain about how the West colonized Africa and "stole everything" from them but nowadays there are many millions of Africans who would starve to death without the aid they receive from the West.
Feeling like you were born into the wrong gender and wanting to get surgery to change genders is a serious mental issue. Instead of the US being pussies and gratifying these people, calling them brave etc, they should be sent to counseling and put on medication so that they can be normal.
>>25794167 my edgiest/most fedora tipper opinion is probably nihilism, I want people to see I'm a mysterious, and distraught soul who's figured everything out, because you see, everything leads to disappointment. First finding out Santa Clause doesn't exist, then that the new star wars is shit. Everything is destined to end up in the abyss and disappointment, including YOU. but that's not a bad thing, because that basically puts a strong emphasis on yolo that is actually motivational! I tip my fedora fellow brethren, and remember knowledge > Christians educate yourselves, sources https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKR-HydGohQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVaAv0cPRok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxCUTg0lvr0
Atheism is the only rational world view Richard Dawkins and A God Delusion are both good. Anti-intellectualism is very real and it is the reason why atheists and richard dawkins and expressing support for either is mocked here.
>>25795044 You pulled that completely out of you ass. i know numerous Historians in real life and it is a well known fact that most historians agree on current holocaust statistics. Ad hominem is not an argument. Call me schlomo all you want, it won't change the fact im not jewish and it wont change the fact that you are wrong. The correct way to go about this debate is to agree that you "facts" are bullshit and that you are wrong.
-All religions should be condemned once and for all or at least not given any kind of power,their original purpose was to explain things that science couldn't but they are unnecesary now in this modern age
-We should force some kind of World War right now(not economical bullshit,actual war) to get rid a big portion of the current world population and therefore end with the overpopulation problem that is causing high unemployment rates,if its niggers and muslims,even better
-Old people and legitimate retards shouldnt be allowed to vote because they obviously can't think well
-I don't approve of given extra benefits to disabled people just because they are disabled,does that mean that if I am fine but I can't get any job or financial aid do I have to cut off/mutilate my arms or legs to manage to obtain one?
>>25795114 Hey. If you are seriously getting offended on here by anything and don't even entertain the other side to the debate/ think "hmm maybe I should consider this point of view", please leave. This place isn't for those with weak wills and people who aren't willing to play with fire. You're being a massive faggot until you can undermine their fundamental facts/ arguments. (in a way that isn't "LOL ur dumb and mean!!")
>>25795203 >-I don't approve of given extra benefits to disabled people just because they are disabled,does that mean that if I am fine but I can't get any job or financial aid do I have to cut off/mutilate my arms or legs to manage to obtain one? I agree with on this one. Why should the strong be held down by the weak? Why should be who are parasites and offer nothing to society be rewarded for it?
>governments should place a strong emphasis on nationalism and militarism >there is a small sect of people in the world who are greatly superior to the rest and that is okay >women are not very useful outside of giving birth
Emotions are just a biological mechanism, like photosynthesis is a plant. Objectively, we are no more important than bacteria or anything else for that matter. Objectively, importance and morals don't exist.
Literally already was done by nature and then Europeans went all over and started enslaving and trading. If you think whites are the supreme superior race, you have to accept that they're the reason for Western multiculturalism.
I have views that make most autists on 4chan mad. race is a social construct. the current gender roles are in no way natural and are oppressive to both men and women. the free market doesn't equal freedom. being born male, you are more privileged and have it easier in many aspects of your life (even getting laid). a woman isn't obligated to have sex with you/reciprocate your feelings. she has the freedom to reject you.
>>25795239 I will undermine your facts and arguments when you present them, which you have yet to do. And who said anything about being offended? You honestly believe that becuase I'm debating against your flawed understanding at history that I'm "offended"? And to even say "hmm maybe I should consider this point of view" is making you a massive hypocrite, since what have you done to consider the actual, real side of history? Nothing? Then why are you holding me up to standards you yourself do not follow? And coming back to the offended thing, you are the one becoming emotional and calling names "You're being a massive faggot". I understand that if this debate is too hard for your mind to understand, then by all means stp replying to me. But don't pretend you grasp history aanymore than the avergae /pol/ack. And I'm still waiting on those facts and sources.
>>25794167 >suffering is the impetus to all art and innovation >suffering is ethically beneficial and modern technologies abolition of it will end all progress >hedonism is thus the end game and purpose of humanity
>>25795480 I have never, nor will, have a reddit account. But if you are using "reddit" as a substitute for an argument (which is nonexistent in your post) because your child like mind can not formulate arguments at this point, I understand.
>>25795888 > being born male, you are more privileged and have it easier in many aspects of your life (even getting laid)
My triggered virgin feelings aside, how? I have been trying a few years now to get a relationship or at least get laid and it didn't work, i have to approach and to be interesting to get laid (and beeing attractive doesn't hurt) as a woman you have to look good and wait for somebody to approach (and you can also be ugly, there are a lot of desperate dudes out there) and to get laid you don't have to be interesting as a woman
>>25794421 Mate you just dumb as fuck. Sorry to burst ya bubble. Motherfucker I bet you got like fucking shit grades in school and now you going all ''NONE OF WHAT THEY TEACH YOU IS TRUE'' cause you can't handle the fact you just stupid as hell
>>25796241 Someone with sense. Glad that I'm not alone here. Unless you go to some shit-tier american school in a ghetto, your bad grades are upon yourself and have fuck-all to do with "teh evil system"
Anyone who doesn't involve themselves in anything but the fields of science and math for the next 20 years until we're smart enough to place our race on a new planet, should be lined up on a wall and gunned down, like the animal that they are. >tips fedora
I'm a triggered virgin too, and I used to believe it's hard, but it isn't. look back at your life. have you honestly never had a chance? opportunities are thrown at us all the time, we just miss them, get scared, or reject them intentionally.
Holy fucking shit. The edgiest opinion I probably have just spawned from reading this thread. The majority of people are idiots with absolutely no self-awareness. There seems to be no desire for most people to research subjects before they form opinions on them, and even worse, they want to spout those opinions as if they'll make an impression on others. I'm by no means intelligent, but at least I can see the overwhelming stupidity running rampant ITT.
>>25794232 I would certainly be sterilized I have some horrible traits that should not be in future generations but I think that would be ok because there are tons of hot girls who would be sterilized too.
If the gov enforced eugenics but also provided free std exams etc. this could be a very good thing for humanity and for my Friday nights
>>25797806 >openly supports eugenics >openly declare myself as a utilitarian >have friends and a gf Your personal beliefs don't have nearly as much to do with your social status than your social skills and self-awareness (which obviously 99% of this thread is lacking)
>none acting pedos should be able to seek treatment for mental illness and not be shunned by people unless they act (obviously)
>Islam is evil and even casual muslims are fucking idiots who I don't want to asociate with. They can be completely chilled, dress normal and all that, but if they actually buy into any aspect if Islam they're dead to me
>people who can't play a musical instrument besides singing are all normalscum
>you aren't a musician if you don't play an instrument besides singing
>women as a whole gender are factually dumber and mentally and emotionally inferior to men as a whole
>if you tease a school shooter and you get shot and wounded (don't deserve to die unless you bullied them really bad) then you deserve it
>everyone should be vegan and society should come to a point where animal agriculture is no longer a thing
>if you're over 20 and play an excessive amount of vidya you're pathetic
Religion is, for the most part, superstitious nonsense used to maintain power over people. Caitlyn Jenner is a man. You can change your name and lop your dick off, but you were born a man and are a man. TFA sucked and the entire Star Wars EU is autistic trash. I'm glad it got invalidated. Most people are selfish fucks who would shank you for a buck because the wealthy hold money over us like food over a dog. Don't be a total dick, but don't go out of your way for people you don't know. Rhodesia was far preferable to Zimbabwe, and the US that just got rid of Jim Crow laws had no place criticizing it. Did I miss anything?
>>25794167 Pro-choice is common sense. It's their body, let them do what they want with it. How would you like it if I came into your house and told you "you must make this life changing decision that could otherwise be prevented because my moral code says so"
>>25799091 This fundamental truth is why I don't believe anyone can be entitled to anything.
Fight for yourself. This world is a grey shitty mess, you're out in the middle of the desert digging a hole, with shoes that are about to be worn out and a shovel. You are sanctioned to be killed in X amount of days. Do something; fight. You aren't getting any free passes or empathy from anyone else.
>>25799756 I agree, especially in this overpopulated world. The only reason people oppose it is because muh feels.
>>25799799 >deserve it That's subjective. If some top of the class kid gets bullied because he's smart, is that a good thing? That's idiocracy tier but still extremely common. Maybe you're also retarded though.
>>25799837 Except by digging you're helping the guy who threw you out there. Rational move is to throw away the shovel and tell him to fuck himself. Which leaving the analogy behind means not trying to work hard or succeed unless you got lucky to get success handed to you.
>>25799245 >Antinatalism Holy shit, thank you. I didn't know this philosophy had a definition- it seems to be something that should be common but frankly isn't.
I subscribe to the mode of thought that despite existence being overall negative, everyone deserves some bit of joy and an appreciation for it. That humanity is in a losing battle, and to be happy regardless of circumstance and knowledge of pain is to spite negativity.
>>25799870 That's what I'm saying; when I say fight I don't mean keep digging. Walk out into the wilderness, or tell the circumstances to go fuck themselves. Take action, change the world starting with your reactions and your decisions.
This is why I can't stand the SJW mindset; If you feel like being a woman, BE a woman, but do not expect society to accept you. You can change yourself, but not change others. You are alone, and you have to make things okay for you and not put that burden on others.
>>25800139 "You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails" is how I think. You can mark it up as faggot conformist ideology, but that doesn't mean I see the world any more rosey or nice than you do.
>>25794167 The human race is doomed regardless of which direction we take.
Either we kill ourselves or, We lose ourselves in meaningless Hedonism or, We progress sufficiently fair technologically where the complete pointless of life and anything becomes too utterly blatant to ignore and causes social and societal collapse perhaps by devolving into hedonism.
>>25800208 That's exactly what I think. It's kind of like how some people get born lucky and they get everything easily and they preach about hard work and achieve a lot. And then you have someone who got dealt a shit hand but worked hard all his life and busted his ass, never gave up. And what was the result? About the same as if someone lucky doesn't work at all.
Now according to your ideology the second guy was good because he "adjusted the sails". According to mine he was a fucking retard who directly helped people who just got lucky by working and being a part of society where his place was very low.
>>25800293 >According to mine he was a fucking retard who directly helped people who just got lucky by working and being a part of society where his place was very low. I'm conflicted in that way as well...
I don't feel it's worth fighting back though. I felt this way when I was going through puberty (never acted on it in any way though) but now it's just... Like... I want to share truths. I want there to be pushback for most people, because I believe some bit of suffering will in turn make you better/ happier. I want people to know that despite everything being meaningless, the important shit is often not the big milestones everyone is set out to achieve. (Money, Marriage, Kids, House, "Success")
If I try to unhitch myself from all worldly pleasures/ all things that align with that society-constructed "success" model, it takes more work and I end up fighting myself for no reason. I also end up with an ego far bigger than normies.
I don't think the modern day example of what "success" is means anything. I will die, it won't matter. What I actually think that matters is changing the views of people. I want to make videos, share my thoughts/ rants, lead by example. Some level of "success" is necessary to prove that I'm not just some negative "fuck life" faggot. Like I'm not dismissing quality of something simply because I don't have it.
>>25794241 >tfw I actually enjoyed undertale bc it reminded me of earthbound
I will say that the fan base is fucking awful. The SJWs do somewhat ruin the game. My brother and I played all routes and had discussions about it. He even did a project around nonlinear storytelling about it afterwards. >Inb4 Tarantino
He's still in the fifth grade. And I still get sick seeing the nignogs ass.
>>25800614 desu it hardly aligns with SJW ideology whatsoever. They attribute so much "OMG PROGRESSIVE GAME" shit to it when really, the gay shit in that game was meant to be passive. Like it didn't matter- that's the point.
Not "IT'S MAKING COMMENTARY!!!"- rather it isn't being condescending/ hamfisted about it. It's just included as a background element, and doesn't really play a large role.
Hell, most of it is even misinterpreted. Especially the whole "Frisk is gender-neutral/ not aligned!" bullshit. No, the creator just didn't want to make whole different sprite sets, and just made a character that could be portrayed as a boy or girl depending on your preference. It was literally up to you, and it didn't matter.
The core of the game's message was how it told narrative; through game mechanics. The narrative was meaningful and had NO alignment with any SJW ideologies or ways of thinking. It is COMPLETELY separate from it.
As a matter of fact, the Genocide route, Sans' character, and Burgerpants all reminds me of shit 4channers would be into/ portrayed as. Sans is an ironic shitposter who does it because it's the only way to numb some kind of deep negative insight. Burgerpants is a wagekuck beta who despite being pathetic has both an immense fear or the world and an ego/ knowing-it-all attitude that surpasses it.
Even some of the beloved characters like Toriel were MEANT to be hated. She's a deliberate parody of tuTORIELs- she's so overly protective that she's condescending and makes the gameplay trivial. She LITERALLY holds your hand through one of the sections, and fears giving you 2 seconds of independence. But Toby chooses to also reveal the positives about that sort of nature. Some kind of intention behind it, despite the parody originally meant to mock how Japanese developers for instance makes their games too condescending/ hand-hold heavy.
>>25800467 What you want to do is nice. Useless in my opinion, because no one really cares about what you have to say, but nice. In my opinion and what I want to achive is complete freedom. Not freedom as in having money and being able to do what I want.
When I say freedom I mean being immune to manipulation and pressure. Being immune to being molded by people around me. Having nothing to lose and never fearing anything due to that. Because if you have anything in your life, anything at all that you value or want, then you are open to being manipulated. Some people say that having a family and things to live for makes them strong. I think it makes them weak because it's a bargaining chip waiting to be used against them. Just as the guy in the desert, he's gonna swing the shovel and keep digging, because of his wife and kids, maybe because he doesn't have one yet and wants one. He doesn't have a choice, because he cares about something.
I'm hoping to get as close to this state as possible. To kill all my expectations, to kill the need for approval, to kill the need for human contact. I want to have nothing to lose. And maybe then I can just throw the goddamn shovel away and walk in the desert until I die, knowing I choose that and there is nothing that can push me to do something else.
>>25800944 There is intrinsic beauty to the universe you know I'm not talking about the big supernovas or whatever- I'm talking about all the things that happen around us that we don't even realize. Or see but find hilarious due to how meaningless or stubborn it is. (pic related) Some people are capable of sharing it, and therefore worth listening to
You can achieve "nothingness" real easily by the way. It doesn't take seclusion and cutting yourself off from loving anything. It also doesn't matter if the opportunity to manipulate you becomes present.
People are strong because despite having what they love taken away from them (therefore getting hurt), they're able to stand back up after. Their willingness to not lose it, and then not to lose the opportunity to stand up for something else- there enlies their strength.
Being able to bear that pain and training the loving+losing aspect, I think, makes you stronger than someone who doesn't have that dynamic present. If you train yourself to not love anything, you're a blank canvas that can be populated with ideas. If you're able to cut yourself off from observing/ being influenced, you hold no more power. There is always a way to revert from that state of mind.
I don't know. I'm of the mindset that disassociating gives you a path to better truth, and that leads back into humanity/ yourself.
Just try and meditate- you'll see what I mean. People who meditate are literally unstoppable forces of nature if they do it enough/ have enough self awareness. (Which you seem capable of)
>>25795044 >>25795367 Ironically enough /pol/ has actually fallen for the actual Jewish holocaust distortion. That only 6 million died when it was 11 and they don't bother with the other 5 because they weren't Jews.
>everyone should be forced to partake in sports from an early age >majority of people should not be allowed to be part of the democratic process >veganism is largely based on poor understanding of ecology, geography and nutrition >religions can be valuable tools for the society >women and their overtly emotional responses to everything are a massively destructive force both socially and ecologically
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