Who else here /straight edge/?
>Understanding that you only have one body, and to treat it with the greatest respect by abstaining from drugs, alcohol and degenerate sexual activity
Also, Incels and people who are too shut-in to obtain drugs or alcohol don't count
>never taken drugs
>never drank alcohol
>never had sex
>will still die early due to suicide, long term depression or the random hand of cancer
abstaining from all that you mentioned is also just kind of a boring way to live your life. I can't imagine living life only knowing the sober state of mind. How can alternate states of mind not make you curious?
Straight edge is a stupid meme, worse than veganism if anything. Why would you form part of your identity on NOT doing something others enjoy?
I'd rather die at 70 and have enjoyed some weed and alcohol than die at 80 and had a shitty boring life.
I don't even really drink or smoke weed anymore but I would never be 'edge' because it's not a big deal to not do those things.
>Understanding that you only have one body, and to treat it with the greatest respect by abstaining from drugs, alcohol and degenerate sexual activity
why in the world would anyone want to live a long sober life, that sounds like the worst fate imaginable
Yeah, better keep really good care of that body, you want to be here as long as possible, and it had better be in REALLY GOOD CONDITION when you die. You have to look good for your funeral, after all.
>ive never met a successful drug user
>ive never met anyone successful
>sex for "fun", sex with people you don't know about or aren't in a relationship with
Care to expand on how casual sex qualifies as degenerate sexual activity? Because I can feel a sermon coming on.
>You can only have fun if you're actively destroying your body and mental condition
love this meme
I dated a guy in high school who was "straight edge". He shaved his head and we would go see all these bands like Youth of Today and Gorilla Biscuits (yes, I am old). It was scary. I would just sit in the back while he moshed around.
>be teen Ian MacKaye
>other punk kids keep giving me shit because I don't drink or do drugs
>tell them to fuck off
>they keep doing it
>write a forty second song telling them to fuck off
>it becomes a movement and people start to beat up other people over it
>Understanding that you only have one body, and to treat it with the greatest respect by doing spiritually and physically enlightening drugs, getting black out drunk with the lads, and fucking ever consenting qtp2t over a 6/10.
Seriously you have one fucking life. Don't spend it being a faggot You'll regret it when your an old man and your grandkids ask you to tell them a story of the glory days. Actually nevermind you probably won't even have grandkids since you were too much of a faggot to get laid.
I'm 100% legit. Grew up outside DC. Used to get dragged to sxe shows. Mouthpiece, shelter, turning point etc. Ridiculous scene then, hilarious now. Just arrogant and puerile. Lot's of really talented and successful. people do drugs.
Speaking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxEAjI5H11k
my favorite straight edge/anti-drug song out there. i'm jealous you got to see GB and YOT, you didn't even get to appreciate them.
I used to be "edge" as in I never drank or smoked or did drugs, but now I only drink and smoke cigarettes occasionally. Both suck and I commemorate whoever can cut them out of their lives completely, but I do like straight edge and the youth crew movement it started, it's some of the best punk I listen to at the moment. What are some of my fellow punkbots favorite bands?
Where in his post did he say that. Of course you can have fun outside of drugs and alcohol. But drugs and alcohol are also very fun activities as well, so why cut yourself off from them.
Being straight edge because you're such a fucking faggot that nobody ever offered to smoke a joint with you or party and get drunk does not count. If you're surrounded by drugs and alcohol and you're straight edge then I say good for you, I don't agree with it but hey I don't give a fuck what you do with your life. Alcohol is pretty shit but weed has enhanced my life and my mood in a great way.
Why do normals get so aggressive towards people saying they choose to not do drugs? And their justification is always "You wont have any good memories or ever get laid if you don't use them!". Are they just envious, wishing they could go back to not being chemically and physically dependent on drugs to enjoy their life and have to lash out knowing they wasted their only chance?
Most athletes I know smoke weed or use marijuana. I went to high school with a kid that now plays in the NFL and we used to get high before school in the morning. He would even go to practice blazed. This was not uncommon at all either.
I don't think it was wasted on me. I had fun. I saw a ton of those bands. I cant remember all their names. 7 Seconds is one I remember. And Agent Orange. I am sure I could look back in my journals and get more names.
I'm no straight edge but I do love a bunch of straight hardcore bands. Good music for cleaning the house.
Fuck the hardlines though, bunch of degenerate douchebags.
but even though minor threat invented the term, the whole philosophy of it predates it
>Don't care what they may say
>We got that attitude!
>Don't care what you may do
>We got that attitude!
>Hey, we got that P.M.A.!
>Hey, we got that P.M.A.!
>"You wont have any good memories or ever get laid if you don't use them!".
The later is kinda true, if you have weedlmao the females will be interested in you and have sex with you even if you are a fat neckbeard and you wouldn't have any chance otherwise (atleast thats what I observed in art school)
>Of course all straight edge bands suck
>What do all of the great musicians in the past 50 or 60 years have in common?
kind of true, video related
Damn you are right. Filler is from 1981 while bad brain's ST is from 82.
They don't have songs about drugs and alcohol as far as I remember and they came up with terms coined by the sxe movement such as Possitive Mental Attitude.
>Yeah but those bands where far from sxe.
7 Seconds- Straight On lyrics
Yeah, you do drugs, you know I don't,
Yet it's a trend just 'cos I don't,
Leave me be, can't you see,
I hate the way it fuckin' smells.
I hate the way it makes me feel.
Thumbs down to all those drugs you need,
'Cos I'll just stay high naturally,
Just more false starts, it tears apart,
Your heart, hour head, your soul, your brain
It helps the feeling, eases the pain.
Now shut the fuck up if you don't know what you are talking about.
Not realizing that things in moderation are not going to destroy you. Good job missing out on those life experiences.
Still I bet most of you stuff your face with tons of food and blimp up, but hey at least it's not drugs killing you right?
>all these robots knowing their punk/hardcore history
>bad brains, youth of today, gorilla biscuits, minor threat mentioned
This thread was a pleasant surprise.
Sxe is a philosophical that transcends genre.
Earth Crisis is far far from punk rock. And that vegan edge metalcore scene in the nineties defined straight edge more than the Hardcore punk scene ever did
Yeah they tend to be annoying vegan dumpster diver group house potluck types. I've even met straight edge train hoppers...I don't know how you could stand sleeping outside every night without drinking and smoking crack
Straight edge is cool if it works for you. A lot of edge dudes are uptight and unhappy.. That's just a fact. I've been listening to both punk and tough guy Hardcore and metalcore for fifteen years. Almost nobody stays edge. They all drop it around 22, 23.
I also did a million beers and all the drugs. By the time I turned 25 I quit everything because I was too fucked up and nihilistic. I got laid, had many insane adventures being an alcoholic 22 year old running with unemployed hustler dirt bags. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I also know every word to minor threat, Keith Barney era throwdown, and firestorm by ExC. Fight me at a show you faggits
Thanks. I was just trying to impress a guy. A year older than me and just seemed so cool and all of that. I guess blowing my eardrums out seemed like it was worth it at the time. It was fun though. So many nice people in those clubs and concert halls.
guess abc no rio punks were always the worst kind. met a couple and they all sucked.
another old bitch reporting in
This thread got me pumped up.
Listening to H2O loud enough to make the noighbors grumpy. The ironic thing is that I'm about to take the dogs for a walk and meet with a friend to drink wine at a square.
Drink infrequently. I cried like a baby last time so I don't want to do it anymore. Used to smoke weed but I'm done with it now.
Can you elaborate on ABC no rio punks?
do you mean the squatters who chill down in the LES?
>tfw new york city punk and too young to have gone to CBGB
Also, went to see H20 back in November, first time ever seeing them. It was pretty fun, made a chill show friend and got a bloody nose.
>MFW People are talking to 80's children like they're ancient sages or walking time capsules.
I guess I could be called an 80s chick. Or late 80s at least back when I was going to those places.
And as for the second part of your question, I can't really speak for everyone, but yeah, things are a little different for my generation I think.
See, I really don't want to hate on your life style, do whatever you want, but I have one question: What is the argument against sex? It's not harmful to your body, it's not harmful to you mind, it's just a cool fun thing.
CBGB was a shit hole you didn't miss anything. Abc punks were usually more erudite and political then other faragments of the punk scene. If you want a good primer of the vibe at the time listen to the born against v. Sick of it all radio debate. I think it's on youtube.
"durrhurr muh life experiences"
Life experiences with drugs: shooting up heroin in a dirty junkie house, doing MDMA and fingering a fat chick at a concert, smoking pot alone in your room
Life experiences when sober: mountain climbing, running marathons, learning an instrument or new language
yeah, sex never hurt anyone.
>Can you elaborate on ABC no rio punks?
I don't live in NY any longer, but I'm pretty sure no one lives at ABC any longer and thay just use the space for workshops and punk matinees.
I once tried using ABC's darkroom and had a pretentious riot grrrl trying to school me on how I wasn't good enough to use the lab because I had an abba tshirt.
Also the crusty punks that hang around demanding money for beer desrved to be beaten up.
>went to see H20
I saw them twice and had a blast both times. super fun shows.
>What is the argument against sex?
not al sxe are against sex. just the purest ones... you will find lots of sxe guys are also super catholic which I always found weird.
Yeah but you ever go on a fifty mile bike ride popping valium the whole time? Pic related
Or hike on shrooms. You are missing out
Drugs are much cooler than he imagines. It's more like, fucking a chill chick from okcupid high as fuck on her circle shape bed listening to DJ Shadow and feeling true peaceful joy in this life man.
Or taking a few opiate pills before a long plane ride, waking up in some island paradise, relaxed as hell. Sipping a cocktail on the beach. Doing Molly with your gf in the hotel and it's all about love and you bond for life in that mome
Or listen to screaming beat down Hardcore on your headphones scowling at the sheep on the city bus. DO YOU EVEN LIFT??????? BRO????
I understand if you want to treat your body with respect and whatnot, go ahead. I just think making a punkish movement about it is kinda gay. Kind of like MGTOW.
Also, what are your opinions on combat sports? Those can get you pretty messed up, and permanently too.
Straight edge master race here. I'm 24 and never touched or tried a single drug in my life. Meanwhile all my ex friends are burn out stoners going no where in life while I'm a year away from my master's degree. Feelsgoodman
Straight edge people protect their body and don't drink, do drugs, smoke, use caffeine, have sex, etc
But why are most of them fat, and more importantly why do most have tons of degenerate tattoos and piercings?
Not him, but Alcohol is "natural" and has been consumed for like 5000 years, whereas most modern drugs were invented in the last 150 years or less.
I have nothing against marijuana though, unless its "shatter" and shit cause its filtered through butane and needs a fucking blow torch to smoke
Will do, I can imagine how it goes already though
>born and bred new yorkers calling some suburban white kids pussies
Also the fact that it was a shithole just seems more endearing than repelling. People went there for shows, they didn't care about the state it was in. I'm sure it was gross but I just wouldn't eat the food there and piss outside in an alleyway. Got any good CB stories though?
Yeah I know that it's an art space and they still have shows there, but wow that just sounds annoying and pretentious. I feel for the crusties ya know? We're cut from the same cloth so I look out for my bretheren and give them a dollar whenever I'm downtown, but I also feel like they don't give a shit about anybody and just want to get drunk and high all of the time. Dat cognitive dissonance.
I consider myself a robot (NEET, asocial, general fuck up, no friends, etc.), and I probably do more drugs than most people in this thread.
>he thinks his body will not fuck him over at any moment with cancer
You are nothing but a maggot in a midden, boy. Enjoy your life while it lasts, because once you hit 30 it is all downhill in a fucking hurry. If you think abstaining will somehow save you, you are a fucking joke.
People who have never smoked a day in their life get lung cancer. People who have never touched alcohol get liver cancer. People who try to live a good, wholesome life get lymphomatic cancer and die in agony.
You are going to DIE, OP. You will die, just like the rest of us.
Why the fuck are you so scared of feeling good once in awhile.
the latter sounds so much better desu
"bro do you even smoke bro bro i was so high on molly listening to edm bro bro fuckin Tomorrowfuck is gonna be so lit bro bro we should go in matching khaki shorts, neon tanktops and stunna shades cause all the bitches are gonna think we're so funny and original bro"
and then your girl gets high and fucks some guy so you get belligerently drunk and try to fight your friends because you're a fucking manimal who can't control himself
fucking hahaha I love these threads because of all the ass blasted druggies and they have no idea whether im a user myself or not, so they are probably always throwing out invalidated arguments. :^)
So, you've basically done pic related. Well done. You sure showed them.
>I probably do more drugs than most people in this thread.
this in a sxe thread isn't saying much.
the highs you can get while sober are amazing.
you have to be clean for at least 3 months to experience them though and that's not gonna happen on my end.
What's /straightbot/'s opinion on sxe metalcore.
I used to like pic related a lot and I find them super cringy now.
I'm not saying they didn't, alot of good authors did drugs, a majority I would say.
Why you so hostile? I know lot of people who use drugs, no problems with them until they hit me up for money.
I like it, not a genre I particularly follow.
Drugs can be an eye opening experience, allowing you to feel and think in ways you never have before.
Being straight edge means that you are boring, close minded, and afraid of leaving your comfort zone. Nothing more to it.
Saving $ is a high? What are you brainwashed idiots blabbering on about?
I love how it has to be black/white. Self discipline or drugs. Either/or. No grey area. It's how cults work.
Because it's bullshit. He's talking about the (alleged) self discipline of sobriety and sites writing a novel as an example. Is thete a more alcoholics laden profession the novelists? Do they have no self discipline?
Dude is a typical self righteous straight edge prick talking out of his ass.
I'm an open minded person, just don't want to do drugs when I could use that time for something else, like working out also would rather buy Electronics.
Brainwashed? In what sense? You're free to use drugs, I know a lot of drug dealers that appreciate the business.
not really hardcore, closer to metal-core I think.
I never said that. But when you have been sober for a couple of months (it's been 8 years since this happened to me) you sometimes get random highs/rushes from doing stuff... kind of a feel good vibe. Saving $ isn't one of those things that will give such rushes, more like excercising.
Do you guys have any good stories of sxe gone wrong?
I once took acid with one of the guys from Vieja Escuela (and he was the one who gave it to me)
Since you don't have the slightest idea about Vieja Escuela, they were an important band in the buenos aires hardcore scene. Not only sxe but hardline. Some of them would go out at night (along with some guys from Nueva Etica https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6lCfLb9_SA) carrying chains and baseball bats, driving around and beating up drunks.
I'm leaving, hope this thread is still alive when I come back drunk as fuck.
If it isn't, good thread OP
So the writers who drink and do drugs actually have more self control than you do. They're able to get loaded and still write. Which you just said you can't do.
Not everything is so black and white.
You have to be straight edge to be a robot. Just look at normalfags, they go to party's and drink and do drugs and have sex with random people, I don't get how "robots" on here can do those same things and still say "yea brah I am a robot, just like you". I mean when normalfags find out that I don't drink or do drugs, they treat me like a leper and look like they can't understand what I just said. In their tiny little minds they can't understand that someone does not want to follow the normalfag guide line, just look on here, some posters say shit like, "lel you never did drugs cuz you have no friends" or "you are just a child then, i am grown up cuz i drink/do drugs".
And just stop with the whole "you just don't get it man, i like, explore my mind when i am high dude, like man, you just don't get it.", You know damn well thats not the reason you do drugs, you do them just because they feel good, nothing more. You are not the next Carl Sagan or Socrates, I don't care about how this one famous person did drugs so that makes it okay, because you are not that person, its always dumbass stoners who drop out of school and work at some dead end job that say shit like this. Why can't you druggies understand, you can not be robots because drinking and doing drugs is a rite of passage for normalfags, its like saying you are a vegan but you eat meat or if you are an Atheist but you believe in god, you are just contradicting your self
I never said anything was black and white, things are relative to the talent and ability of those who do both, there is more than one poster you know?
Its more talent and focus on a certain skill, I''m a jack of all trades, I have to balance programming,drawing,exercise, and other hobbies.
they usually only wrote. (clearly not certain on this, some sailed etc.
natural talent + practice > learning multiple things at once.
Also raid so fuck this be back in an hour.
>tfw working on Chem PhD
>all the drugs I want, and if I can't get them from colleagues (everyone does drugs, at least LSD, here, including the profs) then I can iust make them myself
Stay cucked, brainlets
Because I order drugs on my secret little pharmaceutical Amazon and do it to try to escape the reality of existence in what I would personally consider a properly robotic fashion. It's all about escape. I mean sure there are people exactly like what you're calling out, but there are people like me too. Most of us get out stuff online, and we're basically all detritus.
Straightedge fag here, my brother does this too. I have no problems with him, yet most drug users like to attack those who don't use them for some reason?
>every robot is the same.
I personally life of passive income and have excess free time, happened to see a straightedge thread, thought, "neat, lets see what's going on here."
Didn't even know it was a movement.
>mfw people kick you from raid for shitposting instead,
Going to get up early before work tomorrow morning, vape some hash oil, and then run 10k. And unlike you sXe squares I'm going to listen to some chill Krautrock and not some chugga chugga agro goon music.
I huff duster and eat benzedrex inhalers and robitussin.
It's all the same drive. They just go a lot further than you do. We're all just trying to escape the fact that we're defective people. You think crackheads are normies? You have more in common with them than you do with the real normal's.
I'll give you that one. I've been dabbling in meth lately and it has completely destroyed my appetite, I was practically just eating meals because I know that if you starve yourself it makes you feel more tweaked out.
basically no straight edge person besides Ian Mackaye himself in the hardcore/punk scene avoids casual sex
>this triggers the anon
why the fuck do people think like this
if you abstain from drinking/drugs/casual sex (not that people here are getting a lot of casual sex anyways) to preserve the integrity of your body what do you think will happen?
You will die with a healthier body than me
we will both be dead
and I will have had more fun
pls send me some pure ass acid in the mail :^)
i have nothing against edge people, though its rare that any of them stick to it past highschool. recently ive sworn off booze because it was creating too many immediate consequences, once i was drunk id do stupid stuff, like not stopping drinking. all psychedelics and weed are too much of a head trip for me. only drugs i do these days are benzos and opiates, im smart enough to space these binges out so i dont get strung out, so far ive never gotten withdrawal symptoms worse than flu like symptoms and anxiety.
don't knock it till you try it, you enormous cockloving shitcake.
>implying doing drugs because they feel good is wrong
>implying drugs can't also help you explore your mind
>implying you are better than anyone else because you are basically the ultimate hipster
way to embody all the negative stereotypes of straight edge faggots
do what you want, just don't try and pass judgment on others or act all fucking high and mighty because of your life choices, they're literally no better
if being straight edge was so good you'd be happy, you fucking faggot
I want to like the notion / movement / scene whatever, but the prohibition on sex along with drugs seems unnatural. Safe consensual sex is incomparably more natural than e.g. drinking alcohol.
Sober fun is the best fun. I don't go around telling people I am unless they directly ask if I drink and the like
I'm not straight edge because I sometimes drink alcohol, in my house, alone.
>all my coworkers talk about is drugs, partying and fucking
>can never take part or join in on their conversations as I have nothing to add
I honestly don't even want to join in, none of that shit interests or has interested me.
That's what I get for working at some above minimum wage, blue collar, manual slave labor job.
>Can only be fertile once
>Take herbs that make me infertile
>I will never do drugs that are known to damage the body. However weed and some psychedelics I think can have a positive impact on your life.
>thinking your brain is not a part of your body
>Life experiences when sober: mountain climbing, running marathons, learning an instrument or new language
Es muy posible fumar la marihuana y aprender el espanol al mismo tiempo.
Fuente: Lo he hecho.
I loved listening to straight edge bands like Minor Threat, SS Decontrol etc when I was younger, but I never bought into the whole idea of being absolutely clean. And they were kinda bitchy, shoving their beliefs in everyone's face, kinda like feminazis and similar shitstains do today.
Took all drugs there are, it went more and more extreme and I was about to ruin the lives of many people and unintentionally kill myself when one fateful night after swallowing 7 XTC Pills I accidentally put 3g instead of 30mg DMT into a brand new Vaproizer and inhaled as much as humanly possible within the 30 second window.
Since then I have never again touched any drug, broke off all contact to every one I knew and needed to recover for 5 years far away from civilization. I will never forget what I saw that night and let me tell you: There is so much infinity in all directions beyond your limited human comprehension you cannot begin to imagine. There are no words to describe what I saw, I honestly believe no human has ever seen the place where I have been that night and of course, I was punished for what I did that night. It was so beautiful that I instantly broke down in tears and considered beheading myself
Straight edge fags are like anti-drug-vegans. No one gives a shit. They feel compelled to tell everyone and form their own little social group on the basis of NOT doing something. This is absolutely retarded. That's like me forming a group and identifying as someone who doesn't eat seafood. No one gives a damn.
> drink alcohol
> take any drugs, only medicine if absolutely needed
> drink coffee or tea
> drink anything with excessive amounts of sugar, including fruit juice
I don't make a big deal about it irl, only if someone else asks
Smoking, drinking drug-taking degenerate here.
Your music is worse than christian rock and I've beaten the absolute shit out of so many of you scrawny little fucks in concert flailing your fists around like a fucking autist.