>>25686596 Leadership and writing. You'd need the perfect combination of charisma and words to inspire hope in hopeless alienated people. That's not impossible. It happens. But shit is hard. Maybe we'll get funding from the lotto soon for this benign cult?
>>25687393 >Leadership and writing. You'd need the perfect combination of charisma and words to inspire hope in hopeless alienated people. That's not impossible. It happens. But shit is hard. Maybe we'll get funding from the lotto soon for this benign cult? Right. I must admit I'm not charismatic myself but I do wanna gather people who have failed at life or had shitty experiences that doesn't allow them to develop their potential.
No clue how to go about pulling it off, though. And it's not like most of us have a common goal either; it's more like we have some overlapping issues in some cases with interests aligning occasionally due to said problems. Particularly, escapism through anime, video games, books and other media come to mind as the interests most of us share.
>>25687480 >Because we're the most lackadaisical, dimwitted humans on the internet. Yeah but even hobos can band together and accomplish things like rent rooms, vans or small warehouses/storages sometimes.
>>25687485 I don't have any related projects. One time, I tried to create a community video game site for a niche genre but it failed and that's all my experience. Turns out if you're socially retarded, you can't get people to join in, develop retention or manage a small team of people.
>>25687573 not true. A genius can cover his bases well enough. Someone smart enough to know what the word "overqualified" means can tone down a cv to get a foodservice job in the absolute worst conditions, to support himself long enough to get a job in his trained field. Also, smart people generally save money, due to being more productive.
>>25687561 what do you mean by related projects? I have a few projects that I'm working on, but because of NDA's and school honor policies, I can't include people in mine, but I'm happy to spend saturdays working on other people's projects if they're interesting.
>>25687393 I can do this, I know exactly what needs to be done, I know exactly how to do it, but I have no reason to include R9K in making it, and I'm far too lazy to do it alone. I figured out how to successfully kill myself and live.
>>25687861 >what projects do you have that you can receive help on? Just one that could be shared, but like I said, it died and it's unrelated so I don't need help with it and I want to do something else.
Instead, we should all think of a new project to work on rather than helping individual scattered and already existing projects that were built upon with some other interest in mind initially.
>>25687996 Oh, nice. I don't have a profession or degree under my belt despite being 25. As you can see, I am a loser but I do know how to make money and possess some knowledge in art, speak two languages and have some experience balancing competitive games actually. But I'm not sure how a game would help this group of people so I wouldn't imagine a site or game itself would be the project we need.
Since nothing but rape has been brought up, I invite everyone reading this to propose other ideas.
>>25688091 have you heard of programmable contracts? cryptocurrency folks have been talking about it for a while. I bet we could create some kind of mutual aid society for robots or something by programming a social contract. I don't know how we would fund it, or by what rules aid would be distributed, but it could be an interesting thing to think about.
>>25688161 i'd help you if you were stuck on something but i don't really want to carry you through school. My roommate/coworker got carried hard through his cs degree and now I'm carrying him hard at work. Don't be that guy.
>>25688172 >programmable contract Nope, never heard of it but the concept of mutual help does seem like an interesting pursuit. After all, we all have our shortcomings but I bet most of us are also good for other things due to our upbringing or life experiences.
It seems like the most down to earth approach thus far.
>>25688207 a programmable contract is a contract (set of rules) for transferring ownership of property that is enforced by software rather than by courts. I'm thinking something to provide limited support for NEETs who get kicked out of their parents house to pay for rent deposits on their first apartments or something like that.
>>25688290 well, I just moved out of my dad's house into my own place last month, and the hardest part for me was to get the money together for the deposit and supplies (dishes, shower curtain, kitchenware, etc). I'm lucky enough to have spent money in my late teens on furniture for my room, so i had plenty of that, but i can imagine that being hard for robots just starting out. I wouldn't want to indebt anyone, but we would need some rules for distribution to prevent abuse, and some means for raising funds.
I'm just brainstorming here, but what if robots who put into the pool gain a democratic say in who is eligible to pull from the pool, proportional up to some voteshare limit, to prevent 51% attacks?
>>25688424 >I'm just brainstorming here, but what if robots who put into the pool gain a democratic say in who is eligible to pull from the pool, proportional up to some voteshare limit, to prevent 51% attacks? How would we get a money pool going anyway? I don't know how many NEETs, robots and random losers have disposable income. At what point do we become loan sharks too?
Though I think no matter what we choose, money is probably going to be an issue. More importantly, aren't NEETs NEET because of fundamental issues? I don't know what we could possibly do after the life support stage to make them pay up besides enslavement or what. I'm not really good with money but it seems like a big can of worms.
>>25686596 >Why don't NEETs, losers and robots band together to make something great? because they will never amount to anything.
Literally every post Literally every thread jug shitting sperglord here, today I shit in a jug. No woman will love me. nobody will give me a job. It's all their fault. It's the fault of women It's the fault of society It's the fault of my height It's the fault of my eye color. It's the fault of my hair color. It's the fault of my race. It's the fault of my height It's the fault of my uncircumcised dick. It's the fault of my circumcised dick. It's the fault of the country I'm in. It's the fault of the planet I was born on.
It's the fault of every single reason I can invent, make up, and fabricate except for the truth: that I'm a lazy, self-entitled faggot with a shitty fucking personality that has zero desire to change myself for the better.
>>25688488 the best strategy i found is to work in groups. having someone to bounce ideas off of and provide pushback gives you the means to clarify your idea, and having someone there keeps you from going astray on the internet. I got through so many of my cs classes just by doing homework in groups. I carried most of my hw groups, but i wouldn't have gotten the work done alone because i would've spent all my time on youtube and here.
Actually this is part of the reason I'm ITT. I don't really get much coding done outside of work right now, because I spend my time outside of work in my apartment doing other stuff.
As for tips, I think the hardest thing is getting the scope of a project down. So many ideas flow when you're brainstorming, but trimming it down to accomplishing your core goal and doing nothing else is what you want to do. You can always add new features on a finished thing, but you have to make a finished thing first. Always take the time to cut your feature set down, and to make a written plan. Jumping right into the code without a plan is how you get lost, distracted, and burnt out.
>>25688588 that's where programmable contracts come in. The money would be stored as cryptocurrency in a wallet that can only be dispensed by a programmed entity whose behavior is defined by rules agreed upon in advance and open to the public to view. It's been about a year since I've read on this topic, but I can pull some research together tomorrow.
>>25687828 >minority anons Social media doesn't understand minority status. The Rodge was half-Asian, Zimmerman was obviously Latino. Anything less than 50% African-American will be called "white" in the liberal media and on your Normiebook newsfeed.
>>25688801 sounds good, I'll pull some articles on programmable contracts for people to read, and for now, i'll share this link. Andreas Antonopolous is a premier cryptocurrency expert and he wrote a book about developing for bitcoin. http://files.brendafernandez.com/Mastering%20Bitcoin/Mastering%20Bitcoin.pdf
>>25688848 >>25688848 it's enough to talk to people after class and ask to be in a homework group. you don't have to offer them friendship, just a place and time to meet up and get some work done.
it helps to raise your hand in class, people will notice your participation and be more likely to take you up on your request because they'll perceive you as someone who pulls their own weight in groupwork.
>>25689259 He can pretend to be a normie all he wants but he can't run away from what he truly is. It's only a matter of time til his life goes back to shit like it was destined to be when he was born.
What would the robots gain from this? Communes have always been discussed but it never happens and if it does happen some fag want's to make it into a cult to get money,sex, and a bunch of other shit. >>25689264 Pretty much this as well.
>>25688625 Lots of people make those posts just to meme it up for gallows lols. It's the board culture. And honestly, isn't your attitude better than this mah botbro?
>>25688691 >>25688801 Third guy. I'm >>25687393 Interesting idea about the contracts. I have some knowledge of non-profits. The contracts could be a great way to provide accountability and even a good fundraising hook. Also, these coulld be interest-free microloans rather than "loan sharking." In the 1st world, 5 grand to move out isn't a lot by bank standards but no bank would cover that.
What you're proposing could fill a gap often left open or attempted to close with predatory loans. Final thought at the moment, only robots contributing to the pool may draw from the pool. At least initially, This opt-in co-op approach will help qualify cases with an additional layer of compliance assurance beyond the contracts. Frankly I'm more concerned about legal to start with if you make a proper organization. PR material will be needed particularly if we go that route.
Question: how decentralized and crypto should this be? Is it better to get non-profit status and hang a shingle somewhere? FIle as a religion? Can we accomplish goals without the traditional redtape? Best to clarify goals maybe. Sorry for the rambling, guise. It's late. Good stuff so far!
>>25689365 most roomate adds are female only also I might be too autistic for a room mate, I would stay inside with my neet bux and smoke weed or trip on acid all day. would a roommate tolerate a roomate that isn't a wageslave?
>>25688691 here. I'd like to lean on more decentralized and more crypto rather than not, but that's because I'm completely ignorant of red tape and official stuff. If there's anyone here with knowledge or people who know about it, that would be very helpful.
>>25689535 I don't think the point of this is to give money to people with plans to trip on acid all day. I envisioned it more as a means to help young people who have been living with their parents into their twenties get a jumpstart taking responsibility for their lives. This isn't an extra source of money for people who plan to live off the productivity of others. I wouldn't want to work on a project for that purpose.
>>25689682 >This isn't an extra source of money for people who plan to live off the productivity of others. I wouldn't want to work on a project for that purpose. How would you evaluate them before loaning?
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