>>25670832 >you're tumblr for looking at the evidence im posting against your condition in a scientific manner and not just accepting it straight up
I don't think so.
>>25670850 Sure there is. I think the thousands of trans people world wide would disagree with you that they exist, because they do. Whether what causes them to seek out gender transition is a mental illness, a physical condition of the brain, or something else entirely remains to be seen. So little research is done on the subject that nobody knows at all what causes it, and there are conflicting results on all sides of the argument and how to present it.
As for your idea that men cant be women and women can't be men, aside from reproduction - what exactly is there that men can do and women can't or vice versa? They can both operate within each other's roles perfectly well, especially in our modern age. Men and women are entirely interchangeable, even down to appearance in a lot of respects. The idea that one can't be the other is frankly absurd, they're basically the same thing already - the differences, outside of reproduction, are so small they're negligible.
>i can't believe i need to explain this
That's how debates and discussions work, you explain your perspective, i explain mine, we discuss who is more closer to the truth.
>>25671046 The odds of having an intersex condition are astronomically low, either way, its just a genetic fuck up and has no bearing on the definition for the whole of the sex classification. The odds of being trans AND having an intersex condition are even lower. The majority of XX males have all of the Y chromosome data on their second X chromosome anyway, its just shaped differently. So when you say you have two XX chromosomes but are mtf trans, what you're actually saying is "I have male sex data in my chromosomes, which are genetically messed up and shaped like female chromosomes."
The rarest possible thing you can be is the type of XX male that doesn't carry the Y chromosome data on the second X and trans. That's me. If you were to have the type I have you would have experienced a lot of dysfunction regarding sexual characteristics, both primary and secondary. I even had to have surgery once or twice.
>>25671272 Schizophrenic's are often sober and often have extreme delusions. What is your point? You have an illness and it would be in your best interest to find a therapist who would help you come to terms with your biology. Not a liberal therapist who will feed your delusion but a serious professional who will provide cognitive therapy.
>>25671247 >what you're saying is bullshit but i have no evidence to the contrary
Okay. Go and read up about XX male syndrome yourself. Whether you like it or not the second X in about 99% of cases is just carrying the Y chromosome data and they live lives with basically no trouble from their condition besides sterility. The other 1% carry the female data and have a lot of trouble developing physically. My self I had surgery due to no testicles, and began female puberty at 10 naturally before also beginning male puberty years later at age 18. I've got wide ass hips, rarely ever been gendered male in my life and have always had soft skin and big round lips. I was also born sterile, but that was obvious from the no testes bit.
>i have female moments and i have female characteristics
There are no such thing as female moments or female characteristics outside of reproduction. Ignoring genitals for just a second, the rest of human experience is entirely overlapping between male and female - from appearance to personality, to emotional responses to stimuli, to potential for knowledge. There are very few aspects of a person considered "male" that can't also found in a female and vice versa.
If this is what you're basing your gender transition on, then maybe you should turn back before its too late. You've clearly not thought it through at all.
>>25671481 Again, full lips don't necessarily mean female. Lots of men have full lips too. The outside also treats gay men like women, so it doesn't make you a woman to be treated like one.
This is all very thin logic to base your transition on. Make sure you're making the right decision for you as the effects of hormones are irreversible to a point, and the results of reassignment surgery even less reversible.
>>25671500 Being dumb isn't being female, though the two often correlate.
>>25670928 If you're saying men and women are interchangeable in their roles, then you're essentially just a man playing the role of a woman. You aren't actually a woman, you're just simulating one.
That's the point the other anon was trying to make. You can play pretend all you want, if that's what makes you happy then fine, no one will care. But you aren't just a woman because you think you are.
Also if you can't attract good looking men you want to be with, then you aren't very good at pretending to be a woman.
>>25671728 >If you're saying men and women are interchangeable in their roles, then you're essentially just a man playing the role of a woman. You aren't actually a woman, you're just simulating one.
How do you fetch that logic? A being almost entirely the same thing as B doesn't some how mean that C is B masquerading as A. There's no reasoning behind your statement other than you just saying "if this, then this".
>Also if you can't attract good looking men you want to be with, then you aren't very good at pretending to be a woman.
I'm in an almost 4 year long relationship, with an attractive slav.
>>25671828 >>25671728 That logic only works if you work from the bias that trans people are their assigned gender and not the gender they believe they are.
If we take C to mean trans women specifically Then C=B, masquerading as A in your logic. But you first have to prove that C=B for that to work, and as we've already discussed, nobody knows the answer to that question because there's no research being done on what causes transgenders to feel the way they do.
If you don't work from the assumed position of C=B then that whole logic falls down at the first hurdle.
>>25670642 >>tfw mtf and the only male attention you can get is from mentally ill loser virgins on /r9K/ kek wtf did you honestly expect, dude? That chads would just pour from the woodwork to get at your mutilated man-parts?
>tfw not trans >happy being a boy >born a boy biologically >see no reason biology and gender have to be the same thing > feel like a girl in many ways >edgy faggots on /r9k/ deny that this was always rampant in 4chan >consider myself queer >attracted to any gender combination
>>Take up some new hobbies. Ever hiked up a mountain? Grown some vegetables? Tried your hand at painting? >>Make some friends who aren't special snowflake leftists. >>Accept that you have a dysphoria that makes you -think- your body doesn't match your brain. You don't have a female soul or any such silliness. >>Stay off Tumblr, Instragram, and other poisonous websites.
>>25672384 Do nofap, exercise, learn how to be a man without adhering to an arbitrary standard you see in media.
Nofap is mentioned because pornography can desensitize you, overwrite your sexual preferences, and destroy your natural libido. The most famous tedx talks about harms of pornography, like the great porn experiment illustrate the point nicely.
What might play role in your temporary condition is the hormones, and influence of foreign substances on them. Never consume soda, or other fizzy sugary drinks. All that sugar will only give you diabetes.
Exercise like your life depends on it.
Being a man is mainly about >standing up for the weak >helping others >cultivating your mind and body >treating others with respect >striving for a better future for everyone >inspiring others to be better >having usable skills and abilities, like repairing various things
The list can be different as every opinion differs. But the main point is that being a man is to never surrender your power over the material reality around you and use your power for the benefit of all mankind.
On leddit nofap, there are funny stories how some poor guys brainwashed themselves with sissy hypno videos, and I seriously pity them for being so stupid to fall for that. They in their desperate search to get aroused, get excited, get a high, they turned to that, and inevitably brainwashed themselves, and it takes effort to undo that damage back.
>>25672501 How do you not realize that people like you and those leftists are the same, literally the exact same, type of person? You're both shitlords with excessive opinions that drown out any ounce of subtlety in anything. Kill yourself.
Don't even bother with your mindless "hello reddit" or "shut up fag" reply
>tfw ftm >tfw asked a girl out for the first time >it's my friend, who's been supportive of my transition >she says no, she's not gay >tell her it's not gay because i'm a man >she says she knows but she needs a REAL man jfc why did i even try?
>>25672996 loool welcome to the male gender its already shit being an average beta male, you think you're gonna be a hit among women with feminine bone structure, manlet height and guaranteed male pattern baldness? oh and lets not forget that you dont have a dick either
Only 6% of roasties both do not have children and do not want them. So if you also subtract women who want a real dick inside them once in awhile, women who are traditional or under the thumb of traditional families, and all the taken women you're looking at a dating pool consisting of 1 person per 1000 in the population. Good luck!
Also, don't ask out your friends. Think of them like siblings. Jesus Christ, talk about shitting where you eat.
>>25670642 >transsexual >looking down on ANYONE too fucking rich senpaitachi you think outcasts would be the first to know looking down upon others isn't nice, but hey, I guess you're just as much of a shitter as everyone else also saged because this is probably bait
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