No matter how ugly you are, no matter how fat, how smelly, how autistic, how bitchy you are...
Just remember that there are literally dozens of people on this board alone who would be your live-in slave and expect nothing in return.
How can fembots POSSIBLY claim to be lonely?
When a woman she's lonely, it doesn't mean "I feel alone", it's simply an open invitation for men to attempt to breach her personal space. Women are literally incapable of feeling loneliness.
Mental illness and living in remote locations to name two reasons.
Also the major possibility that the "live-in slave" doesn't care about you as a person and is only using you to not be lonely anymore, just like you'd be doing. It's a farce in the end.
>inb4 responding to a bait thread
Women can't be robots, that does not put them in a 'better' position than robots.
Women due to their higher social value will always be sought out. The lonely women don't want a live in slave, they don't want a pathetic orbiter. No, not because of high standards or the likes, they simply seek a genuine human being.
Many of them alone, having desperate men paw at them doesn't make it better. I sure as hell enjoy being alone and would hate pathetic women to be clawing at me, trying to be my friend, not really caring about the shit I say but just want my company because I'm a man. It's draining, it's fake, and it's pathetic.
Women can be lonely, women can be pathetic, women can be autistic, women can be depressed, but they can't be robots. As if being a robot is something to aspire to.
(I know the argument wasn't about women being robots.)
Whatever misogyny helps you sleep at night, anon.
Yes, your picture was completely irrelevant to the point you were not even making.
This. I've experienced this first hand. No matter how attractive you make yourself out to be, no fem will could be around you or put her time and effort into helping a guy with mental illness. I don't mind it though, I'm still getting better.
If women want a genuine human being, why are they going to the club and sucking guys off in the bathroom? Is that the secret ritual to summon a genuine guy?
>they simply seek a genuine human being.
Hehe. And of course by genuine, you mean someone who is 3 times as attractive as them, and makes 30 times their own yearly salary.
Face it, women do not simply want a "a genuine human being", they want someone who is better than them in any way. This is why you never see a fat neckbeard with a beautiful woman, but you see literally 9/10 men with 5-6/10 women.
Was more referring to the girl have mental illness in this case, but I understand what you mean. No matter the gender, supporting someone who's mentally ill can be emotionally and physically draining, even if you do love and care about them.
>they simply seek a genuine human being
no they fucking want someone of higher class that's successful and rich and influential
it's in their biology to date up, which is why ugly poor guys are the most miserable doomed group on the planet
any woman who tells you she cares about personality the most is lying, either to you or herself
Physical attraction is important to both sides, but it's absurd to say that's the only thing that matters. Even if it was there are ways to improve yourself, but that is not the case.
Women give guys chances, some more than others. The issue I see in robots is that they're fucked over at almost every step of their lives. they have underdeveloped or non existent social skills, they are unmotivated due to the state of their lives so they're boring, they're incredibly lonely so they're needy. Yes, this is a generalization, some robots fit these characteristics or more, some none. There are factors which make us who we are, and more importantly why we are here. The reason we don't have women is generally down to us and half due to not meeting certain expected social criteria, some stuff which is beyond our control as well.
robots have sunk low in life, and because they have the group of women that are good for them is small, add the notion that women have a higher social value makes the men the ones left out, they develop more poor characteristics and continue the unfair cycle. Women aren't to blame for this, no one is, it's how shit works.
Those aren't the lonely women or the women any sensible guy seeks. If you're going after party sluts then you have bigger problems than >tfw women are evil.
There are characteristics that are generally appealing to women. Security, confidence, charisma, social status and a few other things. The privileged women/people can get these partners with very few issues. Robots don't have much, that is true. People do have preferences, it's something to accept. Men have preferences too, but many are pathetic and are willing to go for the girl that just acknowledges their existence. the issue isn't attraction necessarily, it's how low men allow themselves to fall due to their neediness which makes them generally unattractive.
the "robot" in the name refers to the bot that blocks reposts, not your dumb ass, yah cretin. "Robots" used to refer to anyone who browses the board like /d/eviants and shit. It's only recently that people started policing who's a robot and who's not.
>Physical attraction is important to both sides
That is not an augment against. That does not say men don't care about attraction, rather that they are more reasonable about it.
Even then I've covered the point regarding it. Women have higher social value so their inflated ego is explained easily by the pathetic men clawing at them, willing to do practically anything for their attention.
>Literally 800 potential boyfriends lined up
>"I am so lonely"
Nice fallacy, bro. That was totally my point. I clearly said many times over that all lonely men are pathetic.
literally on the front page of /r/foreveralonewomen
This is what women think loneliness is
>what's the fallacy
I never claimed that all lonely men are pathetic, but you claim that I did in an attempt to discredit my argument.
Not only that, women are exactly like
These guys said.
Women literally can't handle being with someone who they perceive as less attractive, or less well of in social status or income.
So this was you?
There was just a misogynist point there, argued in the image. You can call it name calling if you wish, I was pointing it out, nothing more.
I don't really care that you are a misogynist, I have some of the views myself. So, yeah. The whole thing is kind of irrelevant. Argue or don't.
>Women due to their higher social value will always be sought out
>Many of them alone, having desperate men paw at them doesn't make it better
An observation here could be that the lonely, desperate *women*, who are the actual equals to these lonely desperate males, do not want the lonely desperate males, they would rather be a side piece to some higher value male.
By saying "the lonely women" don't want "a pathetic orbiter", you are appear to be agreeing with OP.
stop saying "pathetic" and i'll argue
it's only pathetic when they're ugly
if a handsome man offered to be some fembot's footslave, she'd fucking pay for the flight and suck his dick at the front door
>The issue I see in robots is that they're fucked over at almost every step of their lives. they have underdeveloped or non existent social skills, they are unmotivated due to the state of their lives so they're boring, they're incredibly lonely so they're needy
You appear to believe there aren't women just like that.
>I never claimed that all lonely men are pathetic
And that guy isn't claiming you said that either - nice fallacy yourself.
You state that "pathetic men" are going after "lonely women", rather than ever conceding that "pathetic men" might actually be going after equally "pathetic" women.
He's referring to your not acknowledging the existence of a class of "pathetic women", who may (or may not, I have no particular stake in this) be refusing to date their social equals.
I don't see how that's any less pathetic. The man is still giving a high value tot he women for being a woman, and is willing to do degrading things for her companionship.
Nah, I don't think I'll stop using the word "pathetic" where applicable.
And physical attraction is a thing, it's real. Of course she'll pic the attractive beta over the ugly one. They ahve no other use besides their looks. If she was seeking a partner of course the same rule will apply, attraction is relevant, but it's absurd to say women will always go for the attractive one when the plain or even slightly ugly guy still has a chance, depending on the woman of course. They do take character, behavior and mannerism into account. But due to rejection during the average or ugly man's life he had to adjust to it, forming a more unappealing character in a lot of cases, and not men or women like pity in any sense. It's all unfair, but women aren't to blame, no one is. It's how shit works.
>You appear to believe there aren't women just like that.
I do not.
And the rest of your post, I can see where I was wrong. And in my first post I do point out that pathetic women do exist.
Now the whole argument of them not wanting their social equals? Not necessarily not wanting, but simply having better options, which any rational person would do.
No, I didn't say women are shallow. I'm stating the obvious that physical attraction exists and matters to people, and not all people have the same values regarding attraction, character and other traits.
Robots are too hung up on the physical attraction and seem not to believe that there are women who do not care too much for it or not at all. That they do want a person with a personality they find interesting rather than an attractive male who isn't.
a "pathetic orbiter" isn't genuine. The anon even describes them as "not really caring about the shit I say but just want my company because I'm (insert gender here). It's draining, it's fake, and it's pathetic."
The difference between a friend and an orbiter is the friend doesn't care if the girl/guy sees them in a romantic/sexual way.
The orbiter doesn't value the person, they only value the relationship they want with that person. Which is what makes them disingenuous and unappealing.
Keep searching. The just assumed you are trying to orbit because they probably had other orbiters who were nice then turned ugly when she didn't share the same sentiments. It' is on them.
I mean that they're too hung up regarding physical attraction when it comes to arguments about relationships and why they are alone. I'm saying that they overlook or ignore the notion that some women don't hold physical attraction in high regards.
You're a platonic orbiter then. You're valuing your perceived friendships with the women over the fact that they have no interest in you.
If you actually cared and weren't desperate, you'd realize that people who don't care about you aren't worth your time and you'd stop orbiting their dumb asses.
Why should I bother? It's getting fucking old.
This is what women will never understand. Even ugly weirdo girls get to be choosy.
>If you weren't desperate
Oh okay, let me just stop being desperate.
I'm going fucking insane from loneliness. I have zero real friends.
>Why should I bother? It's getting fucking old.
Perhaps in some of your cases your assumption about them seeing you as an orbiter is wrong and they just didn't find you interesting or appealing?
I don't actively search for friendships, plenty of women on my contacts I don't talk with due to them not talking to me. You can give up if you wish, I'm not discouraging you, I'm not even arguing against you really regarding a woman's quick decision to throw a man into the 'orbiter' bucket. Chances are she has other people to talk to as well and men tend to be more lonely than women, so the man overvalues the friendship. Shit sucks.
Yeah, nice argument, pal. I'm a 24 yo hhkv with no real life friends. I talk to people on skype. As if that has anything to do with the argument at hand, but figure it's better to inform you before you get buttflustered and shit up the thread with your irrelevant and obnoxious memes.
No. I wish it was, anon. I just have a large collection of paintings and drawings. Figure to post them when I'm having a discussion for easier tracking and to share the stuff with robots.
It's a lonely world out there, OP.
We all may be talking to our one true love on this board. We might have seen our possible waifu/husbando at the store, or in class, or playing the same game we you were at the moment.
But..talking to people can be hard. Being social can be really draining. I'm guessing fembots here value their self worth, and their bodies so of course they won't turn into a stacie and fuck whoever has a Markie Mark body.
We're all lonely, OP. And it sucks for everyone.
Did you even read the post?
Not all ugly people are orbiters, anon.
>Many of them alone, having desperate men paw at them doesn't make it better. I sure as hell enjoy being alone and would hate pathetic women to be clawing at me, trying to be my friend, not really caring about the shit I say but just want my company because I'm a man. It's draining, it's fake, and it's pathetic.
The orbiter doesn't value the person, they only value the relationship they want with that person. Which is what makes them disingenuous and unappealing.
I've never once been frustrated with a 4chan post until today.
Please, do us all a favor, and get the fuck out You clearly don't understand what the people here are going though.
JUST INCREASE YOUR POTENTIAL BRAH!
READ A BOOK! GO ON A HIKE! BE YOURSELF! WORK OUT!
Thanks. Plenty more to post.
And yeah, I do draw and paint. Paint less so but I can. Pic related regarding drawing.
Ugly people fall in love and form relationships, too, you know. I'm sure you have seen conventionally unattractive couples walking down the street holding hands, enjoying each others company.
When a man approaches a woman amd she deems him ugly, the chances are slim that she will date or fuck him, but depending on other attributes he may have, he might be given a chance. When a woman gets to know a man and decides she is definitely not interested romantically, then he is put into the friemdzone. Once the friendzoned party still sticks around after being rejected, continuing to buy her things and do her favors in an effort to win her affection, then and only then is he considered an orbiter. Women don't have the power to put men into the "orbit pile," only mem can do that to themselves.
Not being modest but I'm not really 'good' yet. Took me about five years of a few studies/drawings per month to get to that point. Had a few months of binge drawing and studies which helped a lot. Been drawing since I was about 16, though, took it more seriously at 19.
>Only spends time around people that don't like them.
>Complains that nobody likes them.
>Drops the shitty people who don't care and looks for new people.
>Either continues find new shitty people and continue to drop them or finds people who actually like them.
In the end you'll either find people that like you, or die alone knowing you cared enough about yourself to make the effort to try and make yourself happy.
I'd prefer to die with someone who likes me or die alone, rather than die surrounded by people that hate me. What about you?
>seeks genuine human being
>beta's not human beings with emotion, dreams, aspirations
>Chads not being humans
>robots not being humans
Thanks now I see it, Women don't see men as human beings, thats why they can cheat and use you for money with out feeling shit.
Thanks your post made me realize that
I'll continue to pursue my own goals, hobbies, health and wealth, while keeping that in mind,
Last one. This isn't the thread for it, anon.
That's a very painful opinion to have, anon. Both towards women and yourself.
I know it's hard to see otherwise, especially with all of these "feminists" who treat men like shit. Hell, who the hell in their right mind would cry "sexist" at a scientist for wearing a shirt?
But you gotta be better than that. Both for your own mental/emotional health, and for when you do find someone, if you want to find someone.
Just gotta relax, and let yourself kinda unwind and recalibrate.
It's a hard life out there. Too many take advantage of others. Too many are too good at making you care about them. I do hope you'll find someone. If it helps, my best friend of 5+ years, I met on porn board. We spent a year sharing porn and goofing off, then we started to get real with who we were and next thing you know, I'm a reason she's still here, and she's a reason why I'm still here.
Never know where you'll luck out.
And the system thinks my post is spam.
Women aren't satisfied with the attention of certain men because they will either treat her like a wet hole (Chadsluts), a wet hole with a malicious, manipulitive yet still somehow ridiculously simple primitive mind (robots), or a symbol of their ability to attract someone of the opposite sex (betas). Most women don't perceive all men this way. Some women just might tend to only meet men that refuse to treat her like a human being and feel lonely and unloved as a result.
doesn't western ideology (feminism) have women believing they are opressed and eternal victims ( thanks to distorted statistics in feminist academia)
The same ideology says men are basically the source of all wrong in the world and will treat you like shit unless shakled by feminisms teachings then they are transformed into gentlemen (betas)
In an unrelated note do women actually know what they want in a partner? I've only got / read vauge generalized responses
I know tumblrinas and hardcore new age feminists are very vocal, but they are still a minority. Many women still respect men.
>In an unrelated note do women actually know what they want in a partner? I've only got / read vauge generalized responses
There is really no way to give a solid answer to a question that asks "Do all ' x group' do 'y'?" Some women do, some don't.
Why would any woman want a live in slave? That's basically taking care of you for free while you just do Jack shit.
Stop asking for privileges you don't deserve. Only established married relationships can there be househusbands.