Any fellow ENTP fascinated by psychopaths?
As the personality type implies, I like to push peoples' buttons and explore their boundaries.
But when it comes to psychopaths/ "shoot up the school"-type kids, it's like playing with fire. I want to indulge in it.
Would they take my curiosity/ awareness of their disregard for empathy as a threat? I don't like to rat people out, but I'd moreso just want to explore their psyche and understand where they're coming from.
Am I fucking retarded for doing that?
Maybe everyone is fascinated by psychopaths- why else would there be so many documentaries and TV shows on them?
I just don't know how many people would as far as "get to know them"
Most likely. If they do not understand you, they will put you in a category to try and understand you better. If they don't adequately understand you, then they will fear you. Just as everyone fears the unknown.
I doubt psychopaths like to feel the emotion of fear for very long, so to answer your question, yes, it would be a be a bad decision to "get to know them."
I'm a intj and I find schizophrenia really interesting.
I once watched this guys whole YouTube channel about him living with it.
Also look up the hollow mask test, creepy but cool at the same time senpai.
Don't forgot about the struggles of INTJs.
I highly doubt you'd be able to detect a psychopath. Most of them aren't the "shoot up a school" type. Most psychopaths are garden variety and you will always probably think of them as "stand up guys".
>tfw have low empathy and sadistic tendencies but lack in superficial charm
I'm still popular but I want to be charismatic and charming. I want all my colleagues to internally acknowledge the fact that I am better than them not just in terms of intelligence/academic success but in personality as well. I know this is the wrong place to ask but how do I become charismatic and craft a falsely charming persona?
I make eccentric jokes and go on autistic rants about things that piss me off. Life is grand.
Didn't feel anything for my friend of 15 years (known him since we were like 3 or 4 yrs old) when his mother died and he broke into an emotional wreck right in front of me. Almost completely incapable of connecting to others on a profound level. The only reason I say low and not no empathy is because I can connect to fictional characters.
Here's the thing: dealing with low empathy individuals is almost impossible, since you and your kind have a tendency to lie about everything imaginable.
Try your hardest to put yourself in my position: why should I trust you?
I already do those things. It's why people think I'm "innocent" and trustworthy. My problem is that I don't know how to talk to people/make them laugh. Except for talking about pedantic shit like literature and science I never have anything to say. What do normies chit-chat about?
To be fair to myself I've never hurt someone who didn't deserve it. I only hurt others when I have to but other than that I keep my sadism in check. I think I am a better friend than practically everyone else I know and I might benefit my friends even more my faking charisma/charm by amusing them. Only people I'd harm and manipulate are those who do not deserve my friendship/respect.
>dealing with low empathy individuals is almost impossible, since you and your kind have a tendency to lie about everything
I tend to say the truth most of the time, except when it doesn't benefit me, because I mostly don't care what the other person thinks/feels. Guess I'm more autistic than "psychopathic".
Small talk. Make clever little observations when possible. Get a feel of what normal people usually laugh at. Understand why they laughed at that joke. Categorize them. Analyze them until you get consistent results.
your pic is definitely related. I lose patience quickly when people try to correct me and I assume it to be arrogance on their part for assuming they have a more autistic-tier level knowledge than I do.
Because you need people like us.
Its the only reason you would trust somebody with those traits, because we have something you need.
Once the deed is done we'll just be another asshole.
So come to the fire kiddo
This. Even if all my friends knew how little I can connect to them they'd still come to me for help. Normies care less about being able to connect to someone than they do about having someone to talk at (not to), and having someone they can go to for help and not bother talking to go again.
Yes. They sacrifice the accessibility of the point they are making to make themselves look intelligent. I've seen it happen far too many times.
>why should I trust you?
Because low empathy people are usually not emotionally charged so they wouldn't harm you unless you gave them a good, logical reason to do so. Normies, however, could use you as the object of their humour to amuse their friends, they could turn on you if you say something minor that offends them, etc.
Be seriously rude to me or someone I think doesn't deserve it. I don't mean rude as in friendly banter/taking the piss or even as in insulted me behind my back. I mean fucked me over or seriously humiliated me in public.
if you're using Garrus because his demeanor is very similar to yours, to make you feel better you should know that i picked him as a romance option and love his autistic jokey behavior
Indeed, but the question was what you need us for.
And because you won't spot whose low empathy and whose not you'll assume that the person you approach is your casual everyday John.
Now, if the question was 'What we need low empathy people for?', the answer to that is equally as easy to answer.
Whose best at firing (from jobs, or with guns) without feeling remorse?
And no, having low empathy isn't a joy. But it's no curse either if you can deal with the constant and relentless boredom caused by it.
I study their methodologies to try to increase my own personal success, but if I knew an honest to god psychopath I'd try to get as far away from them as possible, as fast as possible. There's no good interacting with them.
God bless. Hope your day goes well.
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>INTJ fags have already taken over the thread
Why do you fuckers love jerking each other off so much?
Being low empathy and connecting to fictional characters is like being 'not hungry' but able to eat chips or dessert. It's entertainment, made to make you feel a certain way, and there's no effort necessary on your part.
Are you able to 'turn on' empathy? That's basically how charm works. If you can empathize, but detatch from those feelings, it's basically like mind reading. "How would I take advantage of someone feeling like this" is easier to answer when you can analyze the emotion from the inside out.
Charm is unnecessary with fictional characters, but they can still provide useful insight. After all, fictional characters gave rise to, and perpetuate current paradigms of popular culture and opinion.
I used to think that way too. Then I realized that it's just my own form of self-imposed morality, which is common among aspd-type individuals.
It gives a positive feedback loop, where you feel 'they deserved it' then feel the motivation to lash out, then feel accomplished once you've enacted revenge. You wouldn't get the dopamine rush if you didn't feel the initial anger, plus, you largely feel dull, empty, and unmotivated. That's why hurting people gives you that rush. Different people have different thresholds, so some people only hurt other people, some are non-violent, some will kill because they were deeply irritated. In the end, they still get the same flood of brain chemicals.
I'm not him but that 2nd paragraph... Describes me completely. The trick is to let their emotion play out for them but subtly steer them in the direction you want by relating to their emotion. For instance, a girl is unhappy with her boyfriend as he treats her badly, act like he should, say you'd do it differently after maybe hinting your interested in her. Lie but keep track of the lies. I slept with a girl by doing this the day I met her. Her boyfriend ended up beating her up kek.
It's why people who are actually manipulative, come out charming most of the time. You can 'feel' good, while making someone else 'feel good' because even if you're bullshitting them, the feelings on both ends are real. You feel good through making them feel good, and you feel good because things are working in your favor, and because you feel superior to them. All these feelings feed off of themselves, until you reach your end goal.
The thing is, at least for me, these encounters aren't pre-plotted, which is a common misconception. I'm not planning things out from beginning to end, I'm dynamically changing my behavior depending on their responses.
I think this is why sociopaths are so good socially. The emptiness combined with false empathy, means that filling someone up with bullshit, allows you to feel less hollow.