Can any heroin users/former heroin users describe what the feeling is like to me? I'm never going to try it, but I'm very interested in the drug's biochemistry, and I just want to know what it feels like.
I've heard it feels like the best orgasm ever or like being kissed by Jesus, but I'd like a more accurate description.
you feel reeeally lightweight and dreamy, the euphoria comes in waves and you feel sick to your stomach at the same time
it doesnt feel like an orgasm or whatever other stupid thing normies that have never done it say
casual heroin smoker here
>you feel sick to your stomach
That is the evil and sin you commit corrupting your soul. I am spiritual, every time I do something wrong I get this pressure in my stomach. Some other spiritualist call it the "hell chakra." But I am a Christian.
I don't know anything about drugs. Is that white powder the heroin, then in the syringe is just something like normal saline that dissolves the heroin when you put it on there? Then you heat it up with a lighter, suck it back up into the syringe and inject it?
bodily orgasm is an apt description for shooting it... the euphoria you feel a lot in your stomach similar to "butterflies in your stomach" effect when you see someone you love or get really excited
and that feeling turns to nausea if you take too much
but the real effects are more subtle, your worries and fears disappear, the future looks bright, you feel like a better person, if you have anxiety its gone, you feel confident (but not cocky or annoying like on speed or cocaine) you feel warm, safe, secure, protected from anything that could go wrong
I've never smoked it but you probably have to IV it to feel the "orgasm" metaphor
Hey anon. I just tried this for the first time last weekend.
It's amazing id recommend trying it once. I smoked about 5-6 hits total (decently big) and felt amazing. Also I got sick and puked about 5 times total, still felt good doe.
you put the heroin in a spoon or cap, anything to hold the powder
you get a syringe and suck up some water
you shoot the water in the syringe into the spoon
stir it a bit
get a cotton swap, tear a piece off and roll it into a tight ball
put the ball in the spoon
suck up the water through the cotton swab ball
there, now you know how to inject heroin. you don't need to cook it/boil it. that's for tar heroin, i've never done tar but from what i understand they need to heat up the water so the tar dissolves.
tar heroin is mostly found in the south and the west, not really on the east coast. it's the mexican version of heroin, they manufacture it
there's a couple different types of heroin. the euros get heroin #3 that you need to break down with citric acid (lemons) before you shoot it
it's not hurr 10000000 orgasms
mostly it feels good because it takes away your depression
anyway it's like a combination of your body feeling really good, and your mind feeling at rest/peace.
it's like, any position your body is in feels good. so you can lay on the floor, etc and it feels good.
your mind loses all it's depression and anxieties, and you feel like a sense of genuine positivity about existing. the future seems bright, you are happy, a genuine 'all is okay' feeling about life. normally I dread life and the future but with heroin it's like a sunrise after tripping all night. everything is new and bright and things are okay.
I think if you're mentally fine it proably wouldn't be that great. most of the effect for me I'd say comes from relief of depression/anxiety and withdrawals. it's highly physically and mentally addictive.
I guess I'd describe it as being content. my body is content nothing hurts it's all ok, my mind is content, nice and still
I'm not really chasing a nod, but some peopel do. 'nod' is this state of semi-consciousness, like a mix between sleeping and awake, it's highly euphoric but you're also completely out of it, can't really walk etc. I prefer to be functional. also it means you're pretty close to overdosing
never done heroin but pretty much this is what i felt with oxycontin
you are kind in a semi dream-like sleepy state and all feels well in the world
if you do too much you get a nauseous feeling
Basically it is the most objectively best feeling there can ever be. You lose all of your inhibitions and feel a sense of comforting warmth that can't be explained by simple words. 'Needless' to say... one can never truly be the same after coming from this heavenly place. Those who have tasted this forbidden fruit are cursed eternally. Numb to everyday existence. Try it if you get the chance OP but be prepared to deal with the consequences. Assuming you get addicted know this, junkie doesn't have friends and you'll be treated as an outcast by your own family. T'is an enervating path but not lacking in dark as well as wondrous discoveries.
>i'm an idiot who worships a 2000 year old zombie jewish carpenter
I've witnessed with my own eyes how quickly it can lead even the most privileged members of society into the depths of decay and misery. Relationship do not tend to hold any meaning whatsoever after a certain point.
i don't use anymore, but i never got an infection. i know people who have gotten abscesses and had to go to the hospital. one time i saw someones arm get completely swollen because he hit an artery or something and had to get some type of injection at the hospital to bring the swelling down.
i've missed veins before and got scared, but the bumps went away eventually and nothing came of it
A highly eloquent and reliable explanation overall. Furthermore, my malicious cat has smoked, snorted and injected this evil substance countless times. So I can attest to how the 'orgasmic' feeling is attained from the IV route instead of other methods.
Yes it's extremely bad for you. If the pH of your blood goes below 7.35, you die. If the pH of your blood goes above 7.45, you die. Injecting a very acidic substance like lemon juice (pH = 2) is a very good way to get yourself seriously injured or killed. Thankfully, your body has a very good pH buffering system
...What the fuck are you talking about?
>Try poppyseed tea for the first time (morphine)
>Feel incredibly relaxed. Euphoric. Anxiety gone. Depression gone. Body feels good and mind feels good. I feel good. I feel happy.
>Nod off to sleep
>wake up next morning
>holy fucking shit I'm even higher than last night
>I have class this morning
>take the bus
>it's a lovely day even though I usually can't stand going to school
>listen to Velvet Underground - Heroin and Lou Reed - Perfect Day
>feel absolutely blissful
>my pupils are tiny
>walk into class with headphones on listening to Heroin
>able to participate in class
>able to talk to classmates without autism
It's a helluva drug, robots. Don't be a retard and assume that because you can buy it at the store its safe and you can't get addicted because that's not how law works
I've only smoked and snorted heroin, so I haven't experienced it in that intensity. What you described, though, is just like the afterglow effect of DXM, and that makes me wonder.
OP, you said you're interested in the drug's biochemistry. I'm under the impression that heroin mimics the effect of dopamine, but the feeling anonbot here described, as I have experienced it, was the result of DXM's serotonin reuptake inhibition effect. What about heroin's biochemistry interests you?
where the fuck are you going to find opium? it literally does not exist outside the areas where poppys are harvested, its always converted to heroin when smuggled because heroin is better and more cost effective as youd have to smuggle in a shit ton of opium
>fishing for an argument
>no addressing the initial proposition
>I'm not really chasing a nod, but some peopel do. 'nod' is this state of semi-consciousness, like a mix between sleeping and awake, it's highly euphoric but you're also completely out of it, can't really walk etc. I prefer to be functional. also it means you're pretty close to overdosing
Oh god no. I had that during an intense derealisation attack that lasted days. Half asleep, half awake yet fully fucking sober. Like a part of your brain has been turned off and you're sort of in a sort of hypnotic semi-vegetative state and can't remember what real reality is like. Pure disconnection from reality and mental clarity; truly fucking awful beyond words.
a lot of what these guys describe is pretty dead on. i am a recovering alcoholic who still does heroin sometimes. i sometimes describe heroin kind of like all the best parts of drinking without most of the bad parts. unlike drinking your intelligence, sense of balance, inhibitions all remain pretty much the same. youll have the opposite excretory problems, drinking makes me piss a lot and have terrible bowel movements. heroin makes it hard to pee and constipates you(i have irritable bowel so im ok but some have big problems with constipation).
>have this experience
>repeat daily for like 9 months
>become heavily addicted
>10-14 pounds a day
>figure I should just take harder opiates
>switch to heroin, oxy
>it's too expensive, not as strong, feels like I'm wasting money when I could be buying seeds
>realize I have a pretty bad opiate addiction, probably above 6-700mg of morphine a day
>basically spend all my time commiting crimes, buying making using pst, smoking opium, pods
>because I buy so much I have to fake a company and start importing it myself
>decide to sort my life out
>start on suboxone, it's shit, doesn't do anything, we go to 30mg
>switch back to seeds, running out of energy, feel like dying
>get put on methadone, 110mg
and that's my story. be careful guize
grow your own poppies it's easy as fuck
opium isn't this special thing it's just the sap of the poppy plant, you can scrape the pods but I just rip them off, put the opium on foil and smoke it
you can make cooked flake opium but it's a waste of time just smoke it raw. you can just suck the raw opoium from the plant
Me and a friend once got caught by the police out in the street. We were in a car smoking H and were carrying a (un)healthy amount of it with us as well. My naive companion had failed to properly stash his stuff. Long story short, we were taken to a police station nearby since neither of us had enough cash at the moment to bribe the greedy pigs. They threatened ranged to sentence us to long years in prison without a trial. During this whole ordeal we were slapped/kicked/punched whenever the head constable saw fit. After failing to talk my way out of it my parents were called in and it was at this point that they were given the shocking realization of what one of their sons had become. Fortunately they bailed me out then and there through paying hefty money. Later I found that my buddy was able to escape the harrowing situation by calling in an influential contact. At-least that is what the bastard told me. I on the other hand was made to receive psychological counselling. Ironically, I continued to use H occasionally during those sessions as well. Still am actually. Have managed to deceive both the therapist and my family again. Though I am aware of the fact that Ill always be perceived as a junkie degenerate by mine kin. Obviously this isn't an easy life to live but it has its moments.
>just smoke opium
Of course! I'll just hit up my local old-timey China town opium den, I'll ride down on my bicycle that has one really big wheel and one teeny tiny wheel!
No one makes or sells just plain opium any more, you tool.
I am interested in how the euphoric effects of heroin are actually produced and how the subsequent addiction forms.
I know that heroin releases an abnormal amount of dopamine, but I'm wondering if that is actually the reason for the intense euphoria.
It has a nice molecule too.
Where the fuck can I get pods? I'd rather be a junkie than the booze hound I am now. Opiates don't do anything bad to your body, well maybe your kidneys but fuck I am fucking up my brain over here.
Same guy here. This wasn't the first time I had a brush with the self-righteous authorities and it won't be the last. Ill end this story with a protip:-
>If you're unfortunate enough to get caught, don't panic. The swine shall eat you alive if they see you squirm.
You would be just trading addiction for another. I'm a super drunkard, I've tried plenty of stuff but opiates and benzos are strictly on my no-go list for recreational usage. Taking some speed when drunk is the shit tho, you feel like superman. Especially if you're introverted. Better not get habituated with that shit either.
I thought I made it clear in my post that I understand I'd be trading one for another. I'm tired of being a drunk, but weed gives me panic attacks, and being the social fuckup I am I can't get anything else. I know you can buy pods on the internet legally but I don't know what's legit.
What's the difference though? It sounds like the main difference is the drug-user is euphoric and thus enjoying it, whereas in my situation I'm absolutely fucking terrified because I'm not on euphoric (*tips fedora*) drugs.
I get it yeah, I love weed myself. I would severely reduce or quit my drinking if it was more easily available. Alco/benz/opi users seem to be on the same level of effects they want. But shit man, gonna stay away from that shit personally.
opiod receptors cause a signal cascade that effects GABA and dopamine
those are the sources of the euphoria, sedation and anxiolytic effects
DXM is a NMDA antagonist, SRI, NRI, mu, kappa, delta opiod agonist, sigma agonist and a couple other things
it metabolizes into dextrophan which does the same things only more potently. (also has action at acetylcholine receptors and glycine)
the SRI effects aren't the cause of euphoria or anxiolytic effects, it's mostly a combination of everything else
I'm the guy you asked I just chucked my washed seeds everywhere and some will grow.
just get like a couple kilos and walk around your garden and neighbourhood and chuck them everywhere
they're only in season for like 4 months so good luck switching lol
I live near a big unused field so I chucked a few kilos in there for this season. I don't bother with weeding or watering or anything they seem to grow fine.
wait till they flower, and then the petals fall off by themselves ideally, then either scratch the pod with a needle, or pick the pod and the stalk will bleed and the base of the pod will, rub all the opium you can get on foil smoke it, chuck all the pods and I use the stalks as well into a blender until they're small chunks, with about 80 degree celcius water and a lot of lemon jews let it sit until the pod bits goes from green to discoloured and drink. I add honey and chamomile because it's bitter
you can also pick the pod, collect the opium from the stalk, and then come back cut off a few centimetres from the stalk it will bleed again, and do it maybe 4 times each time will have less
I prefer to just get the opium as it's white but you can let it set in the sun it goes like black and sticky
im an alchy too, i honestly believe doing opiates is better for you. they arent even really toxic if they are relatively pure, overdoses result from respiratory depression not from any neuro or hepatoxic properties. you also do less foolish things on opiates.
Did you read the same post I did? Dude got beat up by the cops, had to bribe his way out, and was threatened with prison with no trial. He's got a right to hate the cops where he lives.
I bet it's some southeast Asian jungle nigger country.
Brobot, I know we're talking about taking highly addictive drugs here, but I have to ask if you've considered a different ROA than smoking out of foil? That shit is terrible for you. I don't know what feasible alternatives there are for sure. Could you use a glass rose/meth pipe? An oil pipe?
Health is important famalam, you only get one body, then you're dead forever.
>Dude got beat up by the cops, had to bribe his way out, and was threatened with prison with no trial. He's got a right to hate the cops where he lives.
I wish more countries treated druggies this way
From what I've heard it's not a good trade at all. You can buy alco every day from the store to get comfy again. But I would be terrified of running out of something like opiates. In the worst case scenario you would become a poly-drug user.
Agreed. As an extreme Ketamine abuser I can back up this claim. During my regular binges of Kelly The days turn into nights and the sustained sense of detachment from reality may be traumatic to those unaccustomed to it.
warmth. calmness. still seas. Being embraced by god, hes holding me in his arms, wrapped in a cloud made out of clouds. i know the creator loves me.
Your body feels amazing. From the head to the toes, warmth all thoughout your body.
This comment is totally orginal baka desu senpai.
A friend of a friend of mine had a seizure during heroin withdrawl and died. Granted, he was in a jail cell at the time and was denied medical attention, but the stress of his withdrawl did lead to a dangerous complication that killed him.
I had to do that after christmas, It's not fun. My hands were shaking even when tapering.I guess I managed to empty my GABAergic system totally. But hey, drinking again so what the fuck!
And furthermore. All the people saying alcohol is a shit drug probably drink for one evening only and get hangover. But the best effects kick in when you do a multi-day binge and start drinking again. The fucking mania that kicks in is unbelieveable, I've never had a similar sensation even when railing speed. Your head just spills out with all these ideas and concepts.The downside is of course the cessation of alcohol use, don't even feel like answering the phone or talking to anyone anymore.
You know that plesant chill feeling when you hear music you like?
According to research, this effect is a mild release of chemicals from the mu-opioid receptors in the brain (as taking naloxone prevents this from happening, naloxone is an opioid antagonist and prevents you from feeling the effects of anything else that activates the opioid receptors).
Heroin IV has a strong rush for the first minute or so after you IV, this is when the effects are so strong you're immediately nodding. The effects are strongest at this point. It feels like the music effect, but thousands of times stronger, it makes you feel warm, there's strong euphoria, it causes nausea and some other mild side-effects.
Everyone's brain chemistry reacts somewhat differently. You NEED to drink more to fend off the hangover slash withdrawals that's for sure for the most of days.But if you don't get this insane rush of going from "imminent death is probable" to "i can punch through a police car" then I feel kinda sorry for you.
I went through alcohol/benzo withdrawal at the same time. Binged on liquor and k-pins for 4 days straight, took probably 40 of them. My alcoholic genes and massive tolerance are the only reason I didn't die, but I did wake up on my bathroom floor what the fuck was going on. Had some cuts on my arms, don't know where those came from.
Anyway, I went through the worst withdrawal that exists in the world of recreational drugs, I'm sure I could handle junk withdrawal.
Yeah like a hypocondriac I'm loking at my arms if I have spider veins going extnding or jaundice in my eyes. Once I got a semi anxiety attack in being in a closed elevator (they have mirrors in them so it looks like the space is bigger than it is)
Alco and benz withdrawal are the ones you can actually die from. Usually I get more drinkies from the store just to feel better even if I'm not actually going to die from alcohol WDs, Fun times,
Yeah, I had this anxiety that was so bad I thought I was going to fuckin die. Couldn't sleep, shaking, couldn't even really talk at all. I got prescribed 12 xanax for emergencies but otherwise I was clean. I don't fuck with benzos anymore, just booze, then the withdrawals are much more manageable.
You feel very relaxed, care-free, numb, and euphoric. If you take too much, you may also feel nauseous during the "peak" of the high. It's nothing special and not worth the physical withdrawal once you become habituated to it.
t. forum heroin addict. I've been clean since late 2011.
>**former heroin addict
I drank too much fermented Jew last night and can't type, apparently. I've been posting on the chans for years and I've always wished we could edit our posts like you can on forums.
recovering alcoholic here, withdrawal is one of the things we are warned about, it took me 12 weeks of slowly cutting down on my intake before I could go sober, been sober for a year and a half now
A year ago my dad went and died before christmas. That and a ton of drinking I had the most intense anxiety. My speech was this jagged one word at a time shit. Like a psychedelic trip, you don't really get it unless you've experienced it. 0/5 would not recommend.
some muslim countries are pretty big on smoking opium, specifically afghanistan
i remember watching a documentary where the u.s soldiers were working with afghani soldiers and the afghani soldiers would smoke opium and do stupid shit in firefights
BTH is identical and can be vaporized in the exact same way (It almost goes without saying but I hope these people saying "smoked" are using proper set ups or at least chasing the dragon and not actually burning the material, because it's heat breaks down like 90% of the alkaloid
hell chakra is the bottom of your feets, also the nausea is claerly just body rejecting poison. if it effected your chakras then it would be the top one weaked amd the root would be STRONGER.
i know chakras and i used to shoot h. (no love for shaman chakara wizards on autistic "robot" forums)