>>25555915 >Because they don't understand Buddhism Being a full blown practicing Buddhist is almost impossible these days (and maybe always has been) If they want to survive on anything other than their chi or whatever, that is
Who /buddhist/ here? I'm embarking on a journey to be a buddhist. I don't want to live in samsara no more. Don't want no more dukkha. That's why I'm going to follow the noble eightfold path. Wish me luck bros
>>25556630 Buddhism isn't about rejecting all material things, "the middle way" is a core tenant of Buddhism meaning that neither extremes of hedonism and self-mortification & isolation are good ways to live life and attain enlightenment.
It's about enjoying the things that life has to offer without becoming addicted to them or needing them for happiness.
>>25556738 >Buddhism isn't about rejecting all material things, "the middle way" is a core tenant of Buddhism meaning that neither extremes of hedonism and self-mortification & isolation are good ways to live life and attain enlightenment.
That's not real Buddhism as Buddha meant it, you dumbfuck. That's New Wave Buddhism.
>>25556823 Can you tell me more why you chose zen than the other schools? Right now I'm aware of four that's most popular: theravada, pure land, zen and tibetan. There's also the secular buddhist movement that's going on.
>>25556867 0/10 trollpost dude, put some effort into it, the middle way and noble eightfold path was literally the first thing that the Buddha taught after the reached enlightenment.
>>25556890 It's a bit of a generalization, but generally speaking Zen doesn't focus as much on prayers and deity-worship and rituals as other schools. It tends to be a much more simple, almost philosophical, form of Buddhism.
Probably also why it's the one generally adopted as a philosophy, for better or for worse.
I never understood how human and humanoid-centric buddhism is (unless that's just meant to be representational) One would think it would be full of all kinds of crazy shit since it's meant to be so ultimate
Is the very first disclaimer a person going to recommend morally questionable things makes. 'No matter what I say, remember that it is only good in moderation.' If he had a clear conscience and if his recommendations stood on their own, he would never have to make it.
>>25557279 Can confirm this as well. Buddhism is the religion of rejection of responsibility. 'The teachings say don't get attached -- don't get so hanged up on your resentment for me.' 'The teachings say observe your mind -- focus on yourself instead of criticizing me.' 'The teachings say everything comes and goes -- the decision of mine you're now calling bad might turn out to be good soon.' 'The teachings say everything is impermanent -- your anger will soon go away.' 'The teachings say everything is depends on the mind -- my act is what you think it is, it has no objective nature.'
This explains what kind of person is attracted to it.
>>25557346 So what? Just as no one in the right mind would believe that creflo dollar is preaching the gospel, if you yourself know the dharma well enough you would know that the whole buddha worship won't do them any good in escaping samsara as taught by the Buddha
>>25557416 yes it's hardcore. because ego death is not the goal of stoicism. real buddhism is about the cessation of suffering and thus also that of pleasure.
read the middle length discourses of buddha: http://www.amazon.com/Middle-Length-Discourses-Buddha-Translation/dp/086171072X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452146539&sr=8-1&keywords=the+middle+length+discourses+of+the+buddha i read it completely. i really tried embracing it and accept it truths but it's too hard and i have too many mood swings to dream about becoming enlightened in the buddhist sense.
Translation: 'please include a "not all x" disclaimed for my convenience whenever you describe a population so to leave room for the implication that the subgroup I like/advocate/belong to is the okay one'.
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