>>25545238 It actually has gone a bit mainstream. NPR had a 5 minute segment on it, and numerous articles are calling it the new "anal". Some stat said that it's increasing in popularity among mostly college educated white couples.
It's probably a result of the rising tide of Internet porn addiction, causing people to search around for new and shocking things to be stimulated by. Internet porn is a drug like any other; people need weirder and weirder stuff to get off, and like it or not, cuckolding has the same basic qualities that everything people find erotica, especially as far as porn is concerned (it violates social norms, it pushes people's core emotional buttons, it's gross, etc - really no different from the reason porn makes people think rape is hot or makes straight guys think they want to suck off trannies).
>>25546644 Yeah, either consciously or subconsciously the people who fetishize black guy/white girl cuck shit do so because they view the black as more of an animal than they are, and that the woman is lowering herself to fucking this animal simply for passion.
Its a fetish born of self hatred, and the only way to feel better about yourself is to make everyone else lower than you
>>25546738 That makes no sense, how is the person getting off on their wife or girlfriend being fucked by a black guy feel higher than anyone? If they viewed them as animals they'd just try to find some bestiality, probably isn't too hard.
>>25546001 But seriously you hit it on on head. This has been a huge thing with civilizations in the pass, look at Rome. Massive orgies, glorified sex(in the sense that it was widely shown like today), literally made a plant that made you abort fetuses go extinct for how much they were were using it, etc.. This was bc they became so powerful they didn't have anything else to do, like modern society today. which was one of the factors of their downfall.
>>25545452 You're so dumb. All of those cuck snapchat pics are fake. Note that the number font is wrong, and there is no white line around the number box indicating how much of the total story has passed (yes I realize the format has changed)
>>25545793 I keked. So fucking true, who does that? And I mean you know it can't be the first pic every time, sometimes you have to re-do it. And you have to be still so you need to actually stop having sex, find the phone, take a pic, look at it, show the other person to make sure the pic's ok, write the text and send. Fuck, why?!
>>25545982 I'm a lefty and I've never heard anyone mention in. Open relationships, sure, that's something people will TALK about - mostly to seem open-minded. No-one actually does it. When I made out with some random chick in front of my gf (who is usually into that sort of thing), our leftie friends reacted as if they where conservatives... But even those who actually do the whole open relationship thing aren't into cucking. Most lefties are all about it being equal and respectful; i.e. both people get to fuck around and you don't get to humuliate the other person. Cucking is explicitly unequal and ALL ABOUT humiliation. It's a fetish for the sexually frustrated and those who've kept desires pent up, not people who are secure and open about their sexuality. Just my 2 cents...
>>25546001 Do you think maybe the inherent voyeurism of is partially to blame? I mean, does porn partially 'program' you to get off on the sight on seeing another man fuck a woman you desire, which carries over to real life for some?
>>25548448 I don't think there's any actual reason for us to conflate the increasing popularity of cuckold porm with the increasing popularity of cuckolding itself.
Anecdotally tho, I'll say that I know some Trans people (cause they're around, if you're homo) and they talk about a lot of guys seem to be interested in them because they first got the idea from porn. Lol
>>25548338 >Open relationships, sure Full stop. That's cuck shit, go no further. >But even those who actually do the whole open relationship thing aren't into cucking. It IS cucking, anthony burch had an 'open relationship' too I don't buy that bullshit that dog don't hunt. > i.e. both people get to fuck around and you don't get to humuliate the other person Both parties are humiliated by pretending to be in a 'relationship' when they're just feckless disloyal horn dogs. >not people who are secure and open about their sexuality How do you know? Do you know cucks? I read those shitty lefty rag articles that defended it and they seemed proud of it. One fucker said you're only secure in sex if you let your girl fool around on you.
Security is a meme for people who don't want to be criticized for their shitty behavior
Idk I'm in a sort of open relationship situation right now. I broke up with my gf two months ago and we've both slept with other people since then. We hang out a lot and still even go out sometimes (split checks obviously) and fuck a ton, but we're not anything with a label
The closest word to our situation is definitely "open relationship" but I'm not getting cucked since
>>25548996 >but we're not anything with a label Like I said no loyalty, you're just fucking and friendly, fwb if anything no need to spread more retarded meme relationship names for 'we fuck and hang out but we have no future together'.
>>25549022 Why do betas always feel obliged to chime in on these threads? We get it; you're so much the opposite of a cuck that you fantasize about taking dude's girls and it DEFINITELY doesn't sound like the sorta pathetic power fantasy that someone wold have if they felt inadequate to other males, had a hard time getting girls interested in them, and maybe had slight homosexual leanings. :3
>>25549184 Nono knock yourself out - I'm not criticizing your fantasy. It's just annoying that anytime you go near cuckolding threads you get posters saying stuff like that and it's like ... okay gee dude, thanks for the totally irrelevant input.
>>25549184 >but there's literally nothing wrong with watching any kind of porn You wanna take a seat right here? We have cookies, let's talk about your... texts, who were you going to meet today. Take a seat sir.
>>25545174 >>25545174 Because you fucking idiots memed it into mainstream awareness. The same with every other stupid fucking meme that you people giggle at, and repost every single fucking chance you get. People who aren't in on the joke see it, and they start talking about it, and before you know it, they're living the meme. STOP FUCKING MEMEING YOU STUPID FUCKS HAVE A FUCKING CHUCKLE ON OCCASION AND THEN MOVE ON, STOP REPOSTING THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES A DAY, AND THEN THE NORMIES WOULD STOP FUCKING DOING THE SHIT YOU MEMED TO EXISTENCE. TEN FUCKING YEARS, I'VE BEEN SEEING IT HAPPEN FOR TEN FUCKING YEARS AND IT HAS TO FUCKING STOP.
>>25548811 >That's cuck shit, go no further. Nope. Cucking is an act of (consensual) dominance and/or humiliation. One person is the relationship fucks someone else while their parter either watches directly or is told anbout it later. That, or one fantasies about this happening. An open relationship is that both people fuck others and may or may not tell eachother about it. Of course, the two can overlap sometimes, but the defining aspect of the cuck-fetish is getting off on either the humiliation or the jealousy - while the definition of a healthy open relationship is an ABSENCE of humilation or jealousy.
>Both parties are humiliated by pretending to be in a 'relationship' when they're just feckless disloyal horn dogs. This may be true, but they are in that case not conscious or aware of this fact. Humiliation alone is not the key to cucking; GETTING OFF on humiliation is.
>How do you know? Like I said, my opinion and my impression. Cucking only works in you CARE, i.e. on some level you do want monogamy and feel betrayed when your so fools around. Someone who truly, deeply is non-monogamous wouldn't get a hard-on from jealous rage but shrug their shoulders. I have never met anyone openly licking liking cucking except maybe my gf who likes to fantasize about me fucking other girls, but I have spoken to people in open relationships. It seemed, and again this is only my impression, to be built on mutual respect (or at least the pretense of it) and the attitude that "I'm OK with my parter doing this, I am not jealous or angry" - and again this to me seems to clash with cucking where jealaousy and humilation are required.
>>25549038 I'm not into it at all actually, and by gf isn't even white, so...? Are you even disagreeing here; I've seen enough cuck-crap posted on /b/ to know that those into it are open about it being humiliation-based.
>>25549485 Just because you didn't know about it doesn't mean it wasn't popular. Listen to some old rap songs and you'll hear lyrics about them fucking white guy's wives. Or some old Howard Stern. Cuckolding has always been big. Just because you're just learning about it doesn't mean people weren't enjoying beforehand.
>>25549490 >Cucking is an act of (consensual) dominance and/or humiliation. That's just the fetish, a cuckold is someone with a cheating wife people in 'committed' open relationships a la Burch, are cuckolds by definition. The open relationship meme is cuck shit. > while the definition of a healthy open relationship is an ABSENCE of humilation or jealousy >muh made up bullshit The definition of an open 'relationship' is consequence free outside sex, humiliation and jealousy may still exist. >seems to clash with cucking where jealaousy and humilation are required. Maybe the fetish but it aligns alright when you try and say we're together but he or she fools around, when cheating is cuckoldry through and through. When a man becomes a cuckold, not the fetish just the classic history definition, the exclusivity of the marriage is violated and when people get together but eschew exclusivity it's legitimized cuck shit.
There's no use advocating its end though since these people aren't likely to procreate and conservatives are outbreeding la-la-la genderqueers and blase fwb 'couples' like crazy. These people will simply have no legacy to carry on their nonsense and the new majority will have never cared for it.
>>25549945 >That's just the fetish I assumed we where talking about the fetish specifically. A cuckold, derived from the cuckoo-bird, is anyone with a cheating spouse regarless of anything else. But I would arguee that in an open relationship one cannot cheat, since fucking others is part of the 'rules'.
>The definition of an open 'relationship' is consequence free outside sex, humiliation and jealousy may still exist. Indeed. Hence my use of HEALHTY open relationship (if such a thing can exist). No relationship, of course, can be healthy when humiliation and jealousy are constant. Again, my opinon.
Personally I wouldn't like my girl fucking others; I just cannot reconcile that with mutual respect. But if other people want to have open relationships, I'm fine with it. However I do not respect cuck-fetishists; the idea of ENJOYING being humiliated FOR REAL (as in, not a fantasy or dirty-talking; that dude is actually fucking your girl and she's actually enjoying it more than sex with you) is just incomprehensible to me. It requires, in my view, a kind of degeneration or at least stagnation of the mind: you see your partner with someone superior, but have no wish to improve and become superior yourself, but simply fetishise defeat. I mean to each their own, but damn that's depressing...
>>25551240 >You'll never see a cuck who is someone who would be called a strong man in all aspects of the word not just physical Precisely. I mean we can't all be strong, but we can strive for more. If someone else fucked my girl and she enjoyed it more, well I'd get angry, jealous, etc. first of course. But after dumping her, that idea of somone being better than me would stick with me, it would hurt and it would motivate me to better myself somehow.
>>25551275 Cool. Humiliating for someone, then, and always with a hint of racism and also maybe misogyny. That's why I object to it being called a 'leftist' fetish, because as I leftist I find it both problematic and pathetic. It's the fetish of those who hate women, hate blacks, hate themselves, or a combo of the afformentioned.
>>25551299 Didn't know you could do that. Thank you, based anon. But if you don't mind me asking, what the hell do you see on either /b/ or /r9k/ with 99% of the content filtered?
>>25549404 >>25549404 Cucking has been around, it hasn't been popular enough for normies to start talking about it as a daily part of life. I feel stupid saying "normies", because it feeds the problem, and I see fucking normies going around and calling other people normies for chuckles and fuckles and going "reeee lol". I teach middle school math, and one of my students in my 7th grade class screamed "FUCKING NORMIES GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEE" for no reason other than to get a laugh, and you know what really fucked me up about it? It's not just that he memed that meme, it's that, instead of ridiculing him for being a "weirdo", all the kids laughed and started memeing with him until I got the class under control. Do you have any idea how nauseating it is, to hear a chorus of twenty 12 year old kids spouting memes? I swear, if they ever start using "cuck" as an every day adjective, like you see on 4chan (lol Cucknadians lol Americucks lol I just cucked my toe on the cucking room table), I will find where they keep all the servers for this site, and I will burn the whole god damn place to the ground.
>>25551143 > But I would arguee that in an open relationship one cannot cheat, since fucking others is part of the 'rules' Which makes it deranged in the same vein, but not the same level, as cuckoldry. Relationships are pretty much all about exclusivity in the west, in more polygamous areas it's still about one sided exclusivity. Maybe my bias is leaking into my reasoning but I just find open relationships to be too much like the orgy porgy. >However I do not respect cuck-fetishists No one does except for shame junkie anti-normalcy fuckos. >but damn that's depressing When I first heard of it I wished it wasn't real, why would this ever be a thing? Honestly maybe /pol/ et al should talk about it less, it may dull the visceral impact of discovering or hearing of such a thing kinda turning depravity into banal dinner talk. >I'm fine with it Honestly I'm not fine with it, in that I think it's shit, but other people usually aren't my friends or family and it's just not my job to police their lives. I refuse to refrain from calling it shit though but it honestly only ever comes up on the chans and never irl.
Yeah so 2% are passable. My point was they're not like males then and some of these people watching shemale porn might go for them.
But back to the topic, you guys are all ignoring one fact. In cucoldry there's the cuckold and the cucker. And the grill. And going by the ads in CL there are people wanting to be cucked. Interracially or Intraracially. They do exist. What I'm curious about is the proportions. Like how many females, cuckolds and cuckers there are in relation to each other. My guess is cuckers outnumber cuckolds by many orders of magnitude but what do I know, I'm just a robot.
>>25551812 >lol I just cucked my toe on the cucking room tab fuck you man i literally just got cramps from laughing so much... i feel for you anon, and fear it's only a matter of time before that shit happens
>Which makes it deranged in the same vein, but not the same level, as cuckoldry. I'm not that attached to monogamy ideologically; I feel it's right for me personally but i don't care about others. But that's pretty much what I've been saying: open relationsships may be "degenerate" from a traditionalist pov, but they aren't PERSONALLY humiliation to someone doing it (not always). Cucking ALWAYS is and MUST be; that's the whole fetish.
>I'm fine with it I mean like for others, I can't be assed to care about what everyone does in their bedroom. But not my thing and I'd be wierded out if someone I knew did it. More than if they liked orgies or whatever. Just too damn pathetic. "What''s your kink, bro?" -"Oh, me? Nothing. I just sit there. My wife fucks people and I just sit there, watching. Sometimes from a chair. Sometimes from the closet. Always dressed like Superman."
>>25552356 I figure it's cuckolds>cuckers>grills. That is, lots of people into the fetish and wanting to get cucked, fewer who can actually do it on a semi-regular basis (you'd have to be an above average man in every sense, at the very least, to be desirable), and the fewest are the girls who are into this.
>>25552356 Cuckolds make up by far the largest amount and they're the ones who convince their wives/gf's to do it (simply bringing up what you want to do will end many relationships right there on the spot)
The bulls are actually pretty low in number because believe it or not most people do have some common decency and abhor the idea of cuckolding to where if you brought it up you would make people physically ill and alienate yourself from anyone who was there
>>25552356 >lots of people into the fetish and wanting to get cucked, fewer who can actually do it >Cuckolds make up by far the largest amount and they're the ones who convince their wives/gf's to do it
>>25556730 >They're friends not foes Wrong. No one who steals your girl is going to consider you a "friend" . Even girls enjoy cucking men, and stretching the gf's vagina so she can't enjoy the bf again.
There are a bunch of reasons, there's a reason why so many societies had seemingly draconic laws about how marriage and women worked.
It's important to keep in mind that females are the gatekeeper to reproduction, they are the sexual selectors of our species.
When we were hunter gatherers/hairless apes, it was survival of the fittest. The male who could hunt the best usually attracted and mated with all of the females because he had more resources. Typically this was the confident, fit, aggressive type. Hence why we find these features attractive, how ever these types were also less likely to care about a given child. You can see this throughout the animal world, animals with high sexual metamorphism tend to have aggressive males that pump and dump. Animals with low sexual dimorphism tend to pair bond better and the males take care of offspring in with the female. Coincidentally, women find men with high amounts of sexual dimorphism attractive. This creates a bit of a paradox for women, do you go for the better genes or the better provider? For a while they were more or less one and the same.This is why women evolved to retain neoteny and try all sorts of dumb shit to get "Chad" to commit, to entice the fucker with good genes to not leave her pregnant ass for the next hot thing that comes walking buy.
That all changed with agriculture.
See IDEALLY, a woman would mate with a man who had both good genes and was a good provider, this is important. However agriculture allowed those with "lesser" traits but with a tendency for consistency to accrue a lot more resources. To the point where a mediocre farmer could provide more than the fittest, cleverest, but inconsistent of Chad hunters. So the women flocked to them. However, our ancestors knew that in order to keep consistent access to a female(because nothing was really stopping them from just hopping on a more successful man's dick) we needed certain rules in place. This is how marriage came about. tbc
>>25557532 A man owed a woman's sexuality, but a woman owned a man's labor. It was an exchange. Civilization was more or less built on that exchange.That's why divorce and rape were such serious crimes. Divorce was more or less ripping up that "sacred" contract and lighting it on fire. It was dangerous for the woman and her(and the fathers) children, as there were few ways she could provide for herself. The man was either being cheated out of the products of his own labor OR cheating the woman out of his labor. Rape was essentially a man stealing a woman's sexuality. That's why "The Rapist must marry his victim or pay the raped parites husband/father a fine" exist. You broke that shit, now buy it.
Infidelity on the woman's part was essentially scamming the male.
Feminism, as well intentioned as it was, shat on this. Women don't need a man to provide for themselves or their offspring now.
They can get a job and do it for themselves. The can get alimony to do it for them. The state can and will do it for them.
There is no longer an incentive to stay with a provider with bad genes.
The ideal reproductive situation for a woman is good genes and a good provider. How those genes get in there matters. How the baby is provided for, does not. Modern cuckoldry is the ultimate expression of this. Women can now have their cake and eat it too. Fuck a Chad, get pregnant, and have some poor sod take care of the baby. Society let's women do this with little consequence. "Daddy" finds out, you still get child support. He can't kill you without basically damning yourself. He can't NOT pay you, because he would be arrested.
Normalization of this kinda behavior is basically making shit easy for them. They don't even need to deal with being ostracized anymore.
>>25545174 It's strange seeing such a healthy human being up close like that. Her skin looks warm, her teeth are straight, her face doesn't have any scarring or blemishes, her eyes aren't bloodshot, her back looks well-muscled, etc. It's nothing like when I look in the mirror. It's almost like looking at another species, or the platonic ideal of a human. But not in a textbook, up close and in person.
I'm not a cuck, but I do watch blacked vids on pornhub because I like seeing a white bitch getting her brains fucked out by a big dick. Basically I enjoy small stature white girls getting banged by big dudes with big dicks, familia.
Probably because I fantasize about me being the one banging her.
"Oh, anon-kun , your dick is SOOO BIGG fill me up with your big cock"
>>25558281 I don't really give a shit about interracial shit. A chick getting fucked is a chick getting fucked. Don't care about cuck porn either for the same reason assuming they don't show the dude jacking off with it, so fucking gay.
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