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How did a website made for anime enthusiasts end up attracting so much non-anime traffic?
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>>401847
m00t and his insatiable desire for attracting more traffic resulted in the creation of dozens and dozens of boards which do not belong here.
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>>401847
mootykins shilled on SA
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/b/ was always bigger than the anime related boards.
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>>401854
Can anyone refute this?
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>>401854
>>401858

Up until a certain point, /b/ WAS the anime related board.
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memes
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>>401847
Because it was never made for anime enthusiasts, it was made for goons who didn't like lowtax.
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>>401860
Nice revisionist history.

Notice the fine print at the bottom of pic related.
There never was an anime version made because nobody cared enough.

inb4 >muh anime website
inb4 >b-b-but m00t said!!111
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>>401860
Yeah, in 2003, when 4chan had like 12 users. Also, it was Anime/Random, you still could discuss random things that weren't anime there. Why do you think moot splitted it? Because there was more random content than anime content.
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>>401886
>when 4chan had like 12 users
There were a lot more than 12.
It was also part of the best two years 4chan ever had.
Maybe we should crunch back to that state, it might help to get rid of the trash.
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>>401898
I said it in an ironic way, I know there was more than 12 people.
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>>401847
Here is the non meme reply
Basically people who discussed anime wanted to talk about things that weren't anime (like the news, video games etc...) That led m00t to create sub boards to satisfy his userbase. These new boards attracted also people who weren't anime enthusiast but wanted to discuss the other topics.
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>>402391
Someone really needs to fix that or update it, as 4chan started with /b/ and /a/ came about a year later
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>>402391
>some weeaboo was asshurt enough to make that image
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>>402421
Uh, the image is just a little bit of text that clearly did not take very long to type. I could whip up something like that in a minute or two. I'm sorry about your brain damage.
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Started with /b/ essentially, which was Anime/Random. You could post about any anime shows and off-topic stuff too. So non-anime posting was here from the beginning.

moot himself said that 4chan is a general hobby website with roots in anime fandom. It's too late to change it back now.
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>>402421
Nice damage control mad weebcuck
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>>401860
/b/ was only anime related for like 2 years retard.
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/b/ kept making it onto national news
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>>401847
Invasions.
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>>401847
>website made for anime enthusiasts
false premise. this has no bearing on what kind of site it is today.
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epin raids, mostly
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>>402393
If you know about that you should know what was called /b/ before too, right?
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>>402455
How does that change the fact that it started with an anime imageboard? Or that it ended being an anime board when another anime board was created?
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>>402480
>this has no bearing on what kind of site it is today
Yes it has, the older users have all the right to be mad at the newer users trying to change their home.
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>>402485
Yes anon, /b/ was originally Anime/random, but that's not the point. The infograph says the site was founded with two board, /a/ - Anime/General and /b/ - Anime/Random. Which, is simply not fucking true and makes what's a very good infograph, drop heavily in quality and incredibly easy for whiny faggots to pick at

>>402455
Up until chanology anon, the site was very much fucking drowning in anime culture. Anime was given its own board, because /b/ has never been good for dedicated discussion. Anime was still posted on /b/, however, even then
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Friendly reminder that 4chan was founded in 2014 as a message board to discuss red-pill related topics and everything else is just a dumb meme
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>>401881
>inb4 >muh anime website
>inb4 >b-b-but m00t said!!111
>Failing at greentexting
Not even newfags are that retar-

>Taking an image made by a literally who, taking your arbitrary conclusion as truth and apply it to everyone else on the website
Oh ok you came from THAT board, it explains everything
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>>402497
FUCK OFF BLUEPILL TUMBLR CUNT
Christ's sake, where are these "people" coming from??
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>>402501
>Actually admitting that you recognized yourself in what I said.
You literally could not have given me greater satisfaction and afflicting on you greater shame.
Thank you legit retard.
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>>402501
irony is for gays and losers
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>>402506
it's all about that new sincerity now
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>>401847
by baiting them, much as this thread is doing.
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>>402511
You have to admit it's a great false premise though. Look how many people actually believed it.
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>>402493
But /a/ is still there. That's your home. The other boards are not your home.
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>>402518
>he says boards when he means subreddits
cec
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>>402520
/r/anime is that way ⇮⇮
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>>402525
>2525
nice
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>>401881
>Nice revisionist history

Are you actually retarded? The first board ever on this website was /b/ - Random/Anime.
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>>402573
no, it was /pol/
adding the anime boards was hiroyuki's biggest mistake
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>>402573
>The first board ever on this website was /b/ - Random/Anime.
Correct. However everyone who wasn't a weeb quickly got sick of the anime people, thus the first containment board was made: >>>/a/
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>>402674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxjQD1EL8iE
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>>402675
very true
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>>401902
It's called hyperbole not irony.
Finish school before posting again.
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>>402779
As far as I remember, hyperbole is the use of exaggeration to express something.
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>>402674
>>401860
>>401881
The first board was /a/,then people started shitposting about non anime stuff so moot created /b/-anime/random but then nobody posted about anime on /b/ so it got renamed to /b/-random
>>402674
>Now this is what i call revisionism!
The first containment board was /b/ for the reasons already explained
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>>402939
>revisionism
It's like you've bought into the false narrative of /a/'s version of events for so long that you actually believe it's true when it isn't.

The first board was "Anime/Random".

Anime people were the minority of the posters. see >>401881

/a/ was made as the containment board, not /b/. /b/ was the original board.
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>>402944
>minority
Up until the chanology shit anon, the website was drowning in anime shit. You are doing revisionism now. /a/ was never a containment board, you stupid newfag
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>>402944
I admit that i'm wrong with the "which board was made first" thing.
But:
>/a/ was made as the containment board
You don't seem to understand the meaning of "containment board" /mlp/ is a containment board made to stop the pony shitposting on every board,/vp/ is a containment board made to hold all the generals flooding /v/,if you say that there was more random than anime on /b/ /a/ would be the complete oposite of a containment board.But i suppose you use containment board as synonym of "board that i don't like"

>Anime people were the minority of the posters
The first places where moot promoted 4chan were ADTRW (SA's anime sub-forum),Raspberry heaven (An IRC channel about anime made by some SA goons) and world2ch (a copy of 2channel on english) so saying that "Anime people were the minority" is wrong,even more when you base that argument on some old image just because it never got an anime version.
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4chan is the first anonymous imageboard m8. The west has for decades lynched anyone who had too many hot opinions. anonymity was outright revolutionary.
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>>402984
The key word is SA. The site attracted far more goons that didn't want to pay $10 than it attracted what are now known as weebs.
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>>402573
It was removed on two months after /a/ was created, somewhere in february 2004.

>>402939
you are a retard, look at the fucking news page. all the information is there.

https://www.4chan.org/4channews.php

Almost all the board dates are listed here m8. /b/ was first, /a/ came two months later, /b/ was cemented as the NO RULES board some months after /a/ was created.
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>>402992
There used to be many anonymous imageboard type modem BBSs and newsgroups in the 90s, Anon. Granted it took 5 minutes to download a 100k jpg back then.
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>>402998
I already said that i'm not sure about which board was made first>>402984 but i'll look it up.
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>>402994
https://desustorage.org/q/thread/774269/#774281
>Within the first month the site had attracted thousands of users, the majority being from outside of SA
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>>403004
That's funny because I found out about in 2005 from a group of SA people on a stupid online game called Cybernations. None of them liked anime.
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>>402999
No, there were oekaki boards as far back as 2001 but they weren't textboards of any sort. And the oekakis where mainly secondary to art communities.

The first western discussion textboard ever created was world2ch in 2003 by a Japanese, and late in the year they added an imageboard. Then came 4chan who brought the 2chan imageboard source code (horribly translated) and many goons and weebs then made their own homebrews.

1chan's homebrew is iirc the first western imageboard source code.

>>403003
https://github.com/bibanon/4chan.doc

has all known board dates

>>403007
In fact, during 2004 and 2005 4chan was popular for the porn boards.
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>>403008
>The first western discussion textboard ever created was world2ch in 2003 by a Japanese, and late in the year they added an imageboard. Then came 4chan who brought the 2chan imageboard source code (horribly translated) and many goons and weebs then made their own homebrews.

I don't doubt any of what you're saying, but really that format predates the events you are describing. I was talking about before the WWW was even a thing. There used to be western sites on the WWW in the 90s (like totse, just for one) that had forums not unlike 4chan today but in the more traditional BBcode format.
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>>403007
Using a small number of goons to determine 4chan is retarded. Since the day of the sites creation, the site overflowed with non-goons as people went and posted it on shitty anime forums and the like. Moot was a goon when he made it, but the site was never a goon haven and the site, except in recent times, also flowed with japanese culture and animeshit
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>>403012
Anonymous forums, you mean?

Tell me about them. I'm not in depth about 90s internet beyond SA and portal of evil.

Did they have registration?
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>>403014
it depends on when you are talking about.

2003-2004 was populated by a shitton of ADTRW goons (which in turns where parias in SA)

little by little anonymous became a majority by influence of the porn boards and the forums.
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>>403014
I disagree, having participated in many a crossover photoshop phriday thread on old /b/.

>Moot was a goon when he made it, but the site was never a goon haven and the site, except in recent times,

>also flowed with japanese culture and animeshit
I'm not trying to say it wasn't there, I'm just trying to say that by the time the sub (containment) boards of /a/ like /c/ were made in 2006 it was no longer the dominating theme of the entire site.
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Thread started out with blatant bait but was saved by the old /qa/ I loved.
Good times ahead, friends
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2005 here, I think I can explain it pretty well.

At first (as in before I got here, way back in 2003) it was just moot and his extended friend groups posting about anime and general nerd culture (mostly weeb stuff). It didn't really have a distinct culture back then.

Around 04, more and more outsiders flooded in. It was growing to a sizeable site, and it started to have a few inside jokes and stuff like that. I don't know if I'd call them "memes" yet, though.

By mid 2005, memes and primitive 4chan culture developed. Niche groups started to flesh out their seperate sections and boards, new boards were created and sometimes removed. It started to go semi-mainstream, to the point where the name was decently well known on the internet, not just among the forum and anime community.

By late 2006 4chan culture became a distinct thing. Memes increased and a certain attitute and nostalgic feeling was noticeable. By now, it felt a lot more like home, and certainly had a community.

More shit happened but I think I've already answered your question. Basically it developed a culture which used anime as the mediun at first, rather than using it as the culture itself. Once people realized that there was more than just anime that could still feel relevent to 4chan, it started to become a more eclectic and distinct forum.
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Because it's not for anime. Only literal autists think that.
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>>403206
10/10 post
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>>403015
I was Sysop of a BBS with about 50 users from 1991-94. I was also on about 30 or 40 other BBSs in my area including one that had hundreds of users. I paid for the extra phone line with my first job at Wendy's until I moved out of my parent's house and then with my first real job as a clerk at a lawfirm at my apartment at the time.

Not every system had registration. Some like teleguard or WWIV required only a nick like IRC still does today. (or at least could be configured that way) Those were the ones on the early internets anyway. (FidoNet and WWIVnet)

Others like Wildcat! were notorious for having multiple rigorous signup pages almost like signing up for iTunes or facebook today. Some old Sysops back then preferred those types of BBS software for some still unfathomable reason to me.

Keep in mind that if your old BBS had online games then you almost had to have user info and a username/password for those to work properly, so many did just for that reason.

Anyway, there would be forums where people would post reviews about shows they watched and music, as well as about their favorite hobbies and games. Then there were 'warez' traders and the associated datapiracy. Users would share single pictures on many of the local BBSs in the area which would proliferate what we would call memes and image macros today (we didn't call it anything then).

If you wanted to proliferate a meme or share teh latest Duke Nukem game you had to upload it to the file section where all the users could download it using something called Xmodem (eventually upgraded to Y and then Zmodem). Some of teh warez boards had file ratios like torrents do today.

Pic related is an early meme that was floating around the old BBS circuit in my area back then. (had to convert it to .png from .bmp) There was a dwarf named Chucky who would show up at meetups. His image was considered a curse to whatever thread it was posted in, which now unfortunately now applies to this thread.
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pic related is still true today.
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