It's also hard to find someone, even if they went years of not being able to find a job, to admit that it is hard to find a job once they are employed.
I'm lucky enough to be employed full time now, and before this I had two jobs, but I still remember contemplating putting a gun in my mouth because hundreds of applications didn't lead to a single call back.
>>61201840 >be 23 degree in business >enter General Electric in my country as a file clerk >work late shifts 6 days a week >bring coffee and make copies for others >my position is below the company waste bins >get handed general ledgers to translate into words >boss is impressed >get promotion as accountant assistant >prepare audit books and presentations >boss is impressed again >get promotion as accounting and audits chief >be 26 now >paid 2 months vacation >"friends" who laughed at me for studying business and decided to study sociology, psychology and arts ask me if they can paint my house
>>61201840 because they chose to get worthless degrees and feel let down because the world didn't give them a free job with a 6-digit salary as thanks for getting their BA in Genderqueer Studies in only 5 years.
>>61202277 My little sister is like that too, except she works night shifts at a department store. I asked her why doesn't work regular hours she says "I hate work, so I rather get it out of the way so I can play video games"
She's more redpilled pilled then me. She hates blacks and beaners with a passion.
It's not hard to get a part time minimum wage job. But it essentially breaks down to slave labor in most areas. The GOP infers that it's supposed to be fore students and young adults still living at home. You aren't supposed to live life working at minimum wage. It is inferred that it's simply a starting point.
The reality is, however, that companies fight tooth and nail to keep their workers at minimum wage and make sure their pay raises are below the rate of inflation AND company profit growth. The moment employee payroll starts to rise above slave wages your job gets outsourced.
A livable wage matched with job security (there simply is none) is rarely available to anyone going into the job market now.
Anyone who says otherwise are armchair 12 year olds trying to come off as sophisticated.
>>61203057 Nah, she doesnt have a bf. She never had a BF. She hates gays and black to the point she calls niggers nigger.
>Day of the presidental election >We have a little small party >Majority of them are either voting for Obama or is neutral >One chick says she hopes for Obama to win >Little sisters replied "Expecting a nigger to run improve our country is expecting a nigger not to steal your bike" >Everyone hears this in shock >Sister sips her beer and walks away like a fucking boss >I get hounded by my friends all night for this >MFW she was right
Also she doesn't wear pants, fucking ever. She just either wears a mans xxl black hoodie or a guys t-shirt. It's like she wants me to fuck her.
>>61204032 No she used to be in highschool now she's a solid 8/10. I think that's what made her who she is today. She's not a tumblerina or any type of activist. She just hates the fact that she missed out on high school. She's the female version of a neckbeard, except she shaves.
>>61204181 I once saw her pussy while she was going up the stairs. She doesn't even wear panties.
>>61201840 >Have 100 dogs >Train them to dig up bones >Bury 95 bones in a field >Have the dogs retrieve the bones >At least 5 dogs will come back without a bone >Well I guess those 5+ dogs are doing something wrong >Train the 5+ dogs to search harder Supply-side economics, ladies and gentlemen
>>61204736 >little sister comes out of the closet and says shes gay >Few months later she brings home a qt feminine lesbian >Watch my pantless sister cuddle up with her qt gf under a thin blanket >Watch them give each other kisses on the cheek and holding each other lovingly while her gf rubs her clit
>>61205539 Honestly wondering, wouldn't most jobs that still require manual/factory work be for people of a certain skillset or strength profile? Is it possible the people don't have those skills and couldn't get those jobs if they tried?
I would imagine the manual/factory stuff that could be done by your average member of the starving masses would now be done by robots.
Unless you're talking about stuff like construction, but there again, specialized skills/strength required.
Not to justify the jobless, as someone fairly unhappy at his current job (though I know it's a blessing and wouldn't quit over it), but spending all day at a job gets in the way of effectively applying for jobs and/or acquiring skills that would make you better suited to certain jobs.
Wake up 6am on a monday and go on cragslist. Wait for listings to pour in, quickly glance at the description that matches your qualifications and call them. Bam you got a job in a few hours. You'd have to be real stupid to flunk the interview.
Of course it's hard to get jobs at the big boy retail stores--every spic and nigger applies to those.
I fucked out of medical school and got a job as a lab tech for what was on the surface a shitty job, but now my lab is one of less than 20 plastinators in the US and I have papers in the patent office all in a little over a year. Its not about the job but what you make of it. A lot of kids think college is the gateway to a goldmine but in reality it has everything to do with your major and job market. So many people get degrees in education or liberal arts and only go on to complain about the opportunities. Well guess what, no one gives a shit about how much you studied privilege, we need to create a stable polymer to meet our clients needs and unless you have a chemistry degree you can fuck off.
In short, make sure your children have STEM and better off chemistry degrees. I chose bio which was ok but chemistry is the master of industry and wealth.
>>61210037 She isn't. I tried to hook her up with one of my bros (at the time he was pretty liberal and believed every race is equal) but when I introduced him she just trolled the shit out of him. I never seen a man wanting to physically hurt my sister like that. Then I introduced her to another friend who has the same ideology as her and she trolled him, but this time she was liberal and everyone is equal. But by all means go for it.
>>61209890 I applied to top 20-50 schools, I didn't think I'd enjoy going to an ivy league. Chem eng is nice, im doing heterogeneous catalysis and I know it's pretty interdisciplinary, lot of Chem eng people also do catalysis
>>61207001 I know bachelors in interactive media development and masters in marketing. Positions related to both of my two degrees are either offshored, given to foreign workers coming in a visa or women diversity hires. If you are a straight white male you are fucked in this country. Fucking boomers destroyed it all.
>>61201840 >How come every Sanders supporter I know also complains about the job market? >know unemployed engineer >asked why he didn't work some minimum wage job like walmart while being unemployed >told me he preferred to live off programs and his mother until he gets a real engineering job >voting for trump because "there really needs to be a major change in this country for the kids" or something like that
What's interesting is that hearing this from an engineer did not surprise me at all. They're generally conservative, intelligent in their own field and believe their narrow education to be a blank check of competency for anything else.
I think people make a fundamental mistake when arguing this.
Yes, jobs are readily available. What people should say is "are careers easily attainable?" You know, jobs that you'll keep for a majority of your work life that provides financial stability for people and allows them to be independent and start and support a family.
Anybody can get a job, careers are much more harder to get and are disappearing rapidly.
Technology is cheap and camoflages the issue via rhetoric you are bringing up now.
TVs, smart phones, computers are all amazingly cheap. Compare a food budget for a year to that of a TV/phone/internet/computer budget for a year (spread over 5 years, the lifetime of most tech).
The "everyone has a smart phone" argument is a hollow one.
Standard of living through technology has definitely gone up -SOME- but it has gone up marginally for the lower classes compared to the middle and upper classes.
People don't have house phones anymore and there are rarely payphones out and about - both should be considered when factoring in "smart phones".
Like I wrote - anyone who tries to argue the average American is doing better this generation compared to the earning potential of ANY previous generation in the last 100 or so years has their head up their ass.
Compare food, rent, utilities and saving potential along with job security, benefits, and projected "retirement" age - you can't be that blind.
"this" is the first generation that will be worse off than the previous gen since the great depression, and it will only get worse over the next 1-2 generations, possibly more.
Yet the wealthy have been earning more and faster than any at any other previous time.
The west is ruled by an elite that wants to exterminate whites. It can be then easily be assumed that they're '''rigging''' (can't find a better word for it); the job market in such a way that whites go out of work, so they can't attract mates, buy homes and create families = fewer whites are born. While through ''workplace diversity'' quotas and shit like that, also called ''positive discrimination'', they ensure non-whites gain job opportunities in WHITE COUNTRIES at the EXPENSE of whites. Thus increasing the amount of mongrels and non-whites born in white countries.
>>61201840 Sanders supporters do not have marketable skills, also known as useful skills. They are hoping for government handouts or a change in the system. They think their stupidity and incompetency is due to the current economic system.
-Training an employee straight out of high-school is no longer the norm. Most companies don't want to train their employees anymore, they headhunt and scalp, they think that is "someone else's job" to train employees.
-America has closed a lot of factories since 2000, and even a lot of brick and mortar stores are closing because of online sales.
-The number and price of certifications just keeps going up and up. I have an A+ certification for technical support work, before 2011, getting one used to last a forever, now they expire every 3 years because CompTIA just wants more money. The government, military, and many companies won't hire an IT person unless they have an A+ certification, we are allowing private companies to prey on citizens through certifications.
>tfw got hired for a shitty part time and hopefully about to land another job leading into a non-public sector educational career thanks to my background teaching English abroad and good credentials
It pays $10/hr, but I need that first rung of the ladder or I'll be stuck working for retail joints or back teaching English abroad for a pittance.
The opportunities for advancement are shit in this country at the moment. The labor force participation rate is at a 30-year low, and the largest growing segment of the economy is part time jobs (you can thank Obamacare kicking in after working 30 hours for that tbqh). On top of that, most people are watching market upheavals in China and the US looks unsteady as well, so economic growth is still shoddy.
>>61214530 >Training an employee straight out of high-school is no longer the norm
Absolutely this. Companies no longer feel like investing in their employees' careers, while being required to provide tons of new benefits mandated by law. They already pay out the ass for you, so why bother sinking extra money into you? Most people go to college as well, which is expected to provide them with skills from the get-go but ultimately just lowered the value of a college degree and the quality of education you got.
But we do still have a large manufacturing sector of the economy, with productivity way up. It's just that they don't need as many people, relying on fewer, more specialized people.
>>61201840 >Is it really THAT hard to get a job? It might depend on where you are. But I've never had problems getting jobs about 10-11$/hour. A lot of people are picky, and others don't even try.
>>61202614 >$45,000/yr tuition at their private school >shitty degrees, like political science, and are unable to find good jobs after college Why do people do this? If you're going into debt that bad you need a really high earning job. This shit should be illegal. Student debt is fucked and should be disbanded or at least limited to below 40,000 total. You don't have money go to Community College, that's what it's for.
>>61214530 >Training an employee straight out of high-school is no longer the norm. Most companies don't want to train their employees anymore, they headhunt and scalp, they think that is "someone else's job" to train employees. I can say that even when overqualified for my lab tech position I was just thrown into the job with little to no supervision. I may interact with ANYONE once a week. and this is a position that oversees all of the anatomy labs in a leading vet school as well as a human cadaver lab and plastination lab. Molecular bio never prepped me for the number of biohazards i encounter and going into the job i didnt even know what regular working hours were. I would seriously just show up, work for about 7 or 8 hours and leave. Lunch break, 8-5, none of that was explained. Head of the department thought I was crazy for working weird hours until she realized I didn't give a shit when I worked unless it mattered to other people.
There is literally no training in college for actual workplace etiquette or behavior.
Housing in general has gotten horribly worse and public transportation is a joke and more stagnant than even wages.
For housing See: Chinese buying up everything and "home ownership" going to shit.
For public trans or even transportation in general see: the mess our general infrastructure is in. Power grid, interstate roads and rail... everything is stuck in the 40's with each term politician kicking it down to the next guy.
The only thing that gets infrastructure improved is the temptation of big business moving into the area. See: Scripps Institute. But large contracts like that are rare and most shit gets sent overseas.
>>61214977 i used to install commercial tile at 16hrs a day for 2 weeks straight per project traveling across the mid west. If we got slammed with Obamacare i would have been stuck in fucking Mississippi for a fucking month instead of the hellish week I was actually there. Goddamn, i didn't realize it had that kind of effect.
>>61216470 Obamacare's mandates only kick in once you employ a certain number of people (as far as I know), and then anyone who works over 30 hours, well, you're stuck with their insurance problems. The 30 hour lower limit was supposed to prevent employers from cutting peoples' hours too low if they were working full time, because Obama is a kind and caring person like that, but he's also an idiot because it's just simpler to hire more people to work for less hours each than pay for one person's healthcare working 40 hours a week.
Those jobs reports they publish each quarter that he gloats over? Overinflated because his darling legislation has pushed employers into increasing part-time work while stagnating growth of full-time positions. That piece of shit ACA needs to be removed - affordable care act my ass, it's raised premiums over 300% over the last 5 years in some places, with steady 20-50% increases for most companies being the norm.
There's a reason this has been the slowest economic recovery since WWII, and it's because when the Republicans warned that the ACA was a hamfisted piece of shit bill they were right, no matter how much retarded Democrats called them names. And now it'll never be repealed, because muh legacy, muh poor people need healthcare. Shit's depressing as all hell.
>>61216470 >If we got slammed with Obamacare i would have bee
The problem with Obamacare is from both sides. Both side fought about it and the end result compromise is an abomination of a sawed in half baby.
Premiums went up more than the proportion to cover the million whatever newly insured. Some states ignored it all but the insurance companies didn't care so people like me can't even afford insurance when before I could
People get fined via taxes and those taxes are much cheaper than the alternative of paying exorbitant rates for sub standard coverage.
The only people who won were genetic dead ends on their death beds who will die anyways without being productive and the insurance companies. Everyone else in between got squeezed so fucking hard from so many different ways- YEah, obamacare was a failure AND I still believe we need universal healthcare- just not like this. I doubt it will properly happen in my lifetime.
The US is saturated in a culture of greed and "Fuck you, I got mine". And that culture controls who the plebs get to choose between when they pull a lever every 2 years.
>>61216906 You don't get that this was just a gig with my dad to make some quick money. We were sub contracted like a lot of people are. generally paid under the table too. If we had to go by brock bommel's regulations we'd be fucked out of a job or stuck down there for way longer than necessary. Regulations on business are wrong to begin with.
>>61217106 It has been happening for awhile, yes, but it's accelerated rapidly under Obama because of the ACA. Picking up the tab for employee healthcare is expensive as hell in our over-inflated healthcare market.
people need to look at this from the employer's POV. Why would they hire people that would need to feed them and their family?
answer becomes very simple. they want you to do their shitty job that pays less while they get the higher earn.
therefore to work is to lose. I don't say that to justify laziness, but simply because you're working the shitty job for them. therefore don't complain when you get shitty wagecucks from shitty wagekikes.
don't be a wagecuck and work for yourself instead. have that ability to pay 5 digits for a STEM job (pretty much a dream job here) while you earn 7 digits yourself.
>>61201840 never been a day unemployed or unpaid since i was available for the job market. thats 8 years now. i cant wrap my mind around the unemployment rates with people below 25.. not comprehensible.
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