How are we going to get trump elected when his greatest supporters on pol are focussed on memes and conspiracies?
On reddit there are 150 000 people on r/bernie sanders who are actually fundraising, collecting information to help sanders' primary campaigns in iowa and new hampshire, and volunteering.
Get your shit together pol! Trump needs help- meme magic alone won't get people out caucusing. He didn't even bring up Cologne in the debates!
Trump needs people collecting names of likely voters and captains for each district in the key primaries to organize voting. I'd volunteer as an intern or a caller but I'm a canuck and my accent might be a problem.
Read this article and try to deny that you're worried about Trump in Iowa, whatever the polls say: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/donald-trumps-iowa-ground-game-seems-to-be-missing-a-coach.html?_r=0
hes either baiting or retarded.
my personal definition of socialism is the good old nationalist way.
any entity that shapes our nations youth should be moderated by the population. schools, health, defense, police, fire, etc;
while leaving room and providing incentives for individuals who come up with good ideas. being that race/culture is still very divisive and must be settled upon, is important. not calling for genocide but if kids dont play well, we seperate them right?
mixing capitalism with the benefits of not having to worry about your health bills or etc;
you need a strong leadership for this. a honest one. hard to find.
democratic socialism is still significantly better than a crony capitalist society.
its pretty simple to understand really.
bernie has always said socialist, not democratic socialist
a campaign advisor made him start saying the other
way. hmmmm wonder why....
now that is funny. first time I've seen trump support called that.
Meme magic is more powerful than you think.
Bernie has numbers on Reddit but that's all he has. Bernie has a bunch of literal autists that have never paid attention to politics before getting all riled up over the fact that their shit-tier education won't cost them money anymore. They LOVE everything he stands for. But he's completely irrelevant. He's basically the 2016 Lefty version of 2008 Ron Paul for the internet.
Reddit is too retarded and uninformed to have seen how this plays out. They'll be shocked and crushed to see that Hillary gets the nomination despite all of their efforts as if the internet is a true depiction of the average person's real views and feelings. They are wrong.
Trump is on every relevant newspaper and television in America almost every single fucking day. Quick, rapid-fire meme images in support of Trump get shared like fucking wildfire. Long-winded, boring Reddit-tier posts about Bernie Sanders' "socialism" gets a few likes on Facebook from people who want to look intelligent.
It's not even a fair fight. Once Trump secures the Republican Nomination it's all over. The election is basically a victory lap for him at that point. Have you seen how ruthless and hilarious he's been towards other republicans? He's got shit up his sleeve for years against Hillary and she knows it.
I'm not sure I could even stand to watch Trump debate Bernie. It would be like watching the rich, popular, hilarious kid bullying a fucking bumbling nerd while everyone cheers.
bernie does not want to tax corporations at 90%
there, question answered
but let me ask you something
do you think that would mean they would only take home 10% of their earnings?
>It's not my job to educate you, shitlord!
You sure convinced me that your candidate isn't a greedy jew and you eat whatever Reddit tells you to.
>Trump needing fundraising
I agree to turn our efforts into a concrete action, but the memes and videos are working. More people need to see the real Trump and once he wins the nomination I imagine they're going to have a much much better effect on people to show off how centrist he really is, how brilliant he is, and how much he just genuinely loves this country.
You are so stupid.
A strong leader doesn't make socialism work. A nationalistic state makes socialism work. If people aren't giving to their society more than they are taking, you've got a recipe for inflation.
Do you think the niggers and spics that are going to receive benefits are really going to turn around and create businesses and spend their money on anything but drugs and black market guns?
2/10 for making me reply.
>The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive
- Thomas Sowell
why do you think people grow out of this extreme liberalism? Why it's so prevalent among the privileged? Most of Bernie's support comes from university aged students. They don't have to know anything about the world to be suckers for political correctness.
>any entity that shapes our nations youth should be moderated by the population. schools, health, defense, police, fire, etc;
what the fuck does this even mean you fucking retard?
you realize that all those things (including production and industry) are heavily regulated by the goverment in socialist countries right?
I don't think you know what that means. Anyone who is voting for Trump is not a cuckservative. However, anyone who is voting for Bernie is just a cuck. It's funny too because black people don't even like Bernie.
All of the candidates are shit desu senpai. America is shooting itself in the foot with how incredibly polarized the politics is getting. Whoever wins, America loses.
what's their fair share of our money? apparently it's quite a lot according to you cuckservatives
>cuckservatives are so out of arguments they require nonsequiturs to proceed
They're actually a percentage below "democratic-socialist" Denmark.
>knowing shit about the world
>nothing, education is the best investment a nation can make
lesbian dance study degrees aren't going to help the nation
focus on fixing your 'common core' system then. Nobody should be entitled to other's money when they're picking their degree, it should be their burden. And guess what, if their degree isn't shit, it isn't a burden even today.
socialism is based on the false construct of 'equality'. basic pc shit if you know anything about cultural marxism
>However, the average corporate tax rate in 2011 dipped to 12.1%, its lowest level since before World War I, largely due to the great recession and a bonus depreciation tax break
cuckservatives can't even read
>worked their whole lives
>he bought into the "america is an actual meritocracy" meme
>cuckservatives are this deluded
enjoy your corporate overlords
Nigga Trump supporters are literally the biggest cuckservatives there are.
Maybe you missed the daily threads filled with betas worshiping Trump as their alpha god emperor. Their words, not mine.
Because the bernouts are on constant damage control mode..The Trump is causing damage.
>>he bought into the "america is an actual meritocracy" meme
you're right, I guess you do deserve stuff for being pathetic and advocating apathy!
>then stop the corporate welfare, cuckservative
then don't vote for the candidate who wants to give people who work 0 hours a week money.Bernie is the welfare state candidate.
>allow me a minute to enlighten you on sen. Bernie Sanders
>reddit doing anything irl that doesn't turn people away from the bern
>you're right, I guess you do deserve stuff for being pathetic and advocating apathy!
>cuckservatives are so void of arguments they have to invent their opponents' arguments so they can refute them
>then don't vote for the candidate who wants to give people who work 0 hours a week money.Bernie is the welfare state candidate.
>cuckservatives don't even know the difference between social and corporate welfare
poor people on welfare didn't cause the financial crash, wall street did
Enlighten me, then. What's Trump's actual stance on Muslims?
Also, for Christ's sake, why do Americans pay a shit load more money for a college education than any other civilized nation? Is it possible that Bernie kind of has a point in that regard?
Socialism has been associated with communism, which has been associated with hippies and ruskies for a few generations now. It hasn't been pc to proclaim you are a socialist. Learn what the term pc means.
When I sit at a dinner table with retarded christians who want to pray before they eat, I don't use that as an opportunity to remind them that they worship a fictional character. I'm being politically correct. Fucking republicans ate the cum of the GOP trying to push this us vs them "anti-PC" issue that suddenly sprang up.
>waaaaah It's because of PC that my life sucks.
Hey man, dude, we shouldn't have to work.
That's what Bernie is all about. I'm with you.
Fuck working! Let's get educated.
An extreme stance on Muslims would be something like bombing them for two decades or putting sanctions on Iraq so severe 500,000 children died. There's nothing extreme about a moratorium on Muslim immigration.
When has Trump pandered to minorities? Or said we need to do this or that for blacks? From what I remember, he is one of the few politicians who actually calls out niggers for their niggerdom.
>Is it possible that Bernie kind of has a point in that regard?
of course he does
cuckservatives have been brainwashed by media that don't want us to look closely and realize that the shadows on the wall are not real people
democratic socialist is someone who wants to achieve socialism through political reforms instead of a revolution like a socialist.
The end game stays the same.
But because the name says "democratic" people assume said person supports democratic values.
>no, no, our type of socialism is different!
How many times will your worthless ideology have to fail for you to give up with the "No True Scotsman" bullshit?
Your argument is that America isn't a Meritocracy, yet education is what we all need. I know you're too young to know how stupid you sound.
Glad I can vote.
>But because the name says "democratic" people assume said person supports democratic values.
but they do
>How many times will your worthless ideology have to fail for you to give up with the "No True Scotsman" bullshit?
>blatant difference in ideologies = "no true scotsman"
confirmation bias, most likely
america isn't a meritocracy because the rich have rigged the system in their favor, retard.
congrats on voting against your best interests like most cuckservatives
>Implying online support matters
If this was the case, Ron Paul would have been elected in 2008. Are Bernie supporters really not old enough to remember that?
Wait, don't answer I already know the answer.
Doesn't he also want to keep a database of all Muslims currently in the U.S.? Sounds mighty suspicious to me.
I will admit I'm not very well versed on what Bernie's platform is, exactly. How does he want to address that?
I wasn't even making an argument, I was asking for justification for why they support Trump. You've got a point though, it seems like most people on this board just support him because "lol he hates mudslimes just like me!"
>Gee, I wonder how they got rich?
it was through working literally hundreds of times harder than the poor, of course
>cuckservatives actually believe this
>cuckservatives literally believe in the just world fallacy
>the rich have rigged the system in their favor
How did those evil rich people generate their wealth, again?
You don't have to pay. You can sit in on any college class at any public uni for free (not counting books if you want to buy them) And Harvard offers every last one of their classes for free online. You get the knowledge just not the paper that says you have the knowledge.
Oh you mean like when he pretended to be buddy buddy with Ben Carson to kiss the black votes' ass without doing anything then immediately went on to attack Carson as soon as he posed a threat. For being the "anti politician candidate", he sure knows how to act like one.
Remind me what his stance on Israel and the NSA is.
What kind of sad troll are you?
> blatent lies
> didn't bother to research anything you're talking about
> Haven't even watched a single Trump video or you would know why people like him.
all democrats have lisps, are beta-males who will father my alpha-made children. when you're in bed getting pegged by your wife, the mother of some alpha's children, remember that you're a pussy and you will always be a pussy.
It takes capital to make capital. It takes a network of resources to be successful. Even the wealthy know this.
It isn't that the wealthy rig the game so much as they start off monopoly with boardwalk, the railroads, utilities, and hotels, 20,000 and you start off with 200 dollars. You are lying to yourself if you don't think that makes a world of difference. You don't have to be a commie or socialist to recognize this reality.
Its so dense. Every frame has so much going on
>implying because others do something, it must be good
> pretended to be buddy buddy with Ben Carson to kiss the black votes' ass
That's not why he did it. He did it because at the time Carson was rising in the poles, and--like you said--was a threat. Same thing he did to Cruz the other night.
That's on par with blaming your parents for having a house before you.
Do you want to grow up in the fucking African wastelands?
Of course there is a society before you're born into it.
you have a lisp, a tiny dick and you're short and weak.
admit it, im right. most democrats are weak little manlet betas. :) umad?
Ayy lmao, he can't even answer why he thinks the wealthy are bad.
>they start off monopoly with boardwalk, the railroads, utilities, and hotels, 20,000 and you start off with 200 dollars
how did they get all those estates in the first place? sinister jew magic? imho this argument isnt much different than the concept of "white privilege", trying to make the successful feel guilty for having a more productive lineage
why should I shame the Rockefellers for making more valuable contributions to society than Grandpappy Anon Emouse?
>implying i was implying
heres what $15/hr minimum wage will look like
i was right :D
you take it in the ass, don't you. just tell us the truth. we're all thinking it.
See this is why I like faggots like yourself. You talk out of your ass all day long, but when push comes to shove and you actually have to prove a point you can't.
A social democrat might think he's supporting democratic values, be he is doing everything he can to build a system equivalent to the GDR and north korea. The world has seen how socialism works in real life, but people think they can read a little red book and now everything is different. By supporting socialism you are indirectly supporting a dictatorship. Dictatorship by a select elite that oversees the distribution of everything.
It'll never happen. Trump supporters are low IQ, underage and lazy
he's also an insider. he admits himself, time and time again that he was part of the establishment, and he's well aware of their tricks and general fuckery.
this is why i support him. he's not a career politician, but he's well aware of their game and the overall illusion of politics.
So we agree then?
>how do you think the wealthy got there
The implication was that they worked their ass off but the reality is that most of them don't come from the bottom, they inherit a lot of their success. I don't agree with commie anon that the wealthy rig the system (not all anyway, not even a majority) but I also don't buy the bullshit meritocracy meme.
>bringing the those black chicks on stage
You realize he did that just so we could make a meme of him with those black chicks next to the picture of Bernie with those blacks chicks thus demonstrating the difference between a cuck and an alpha. When Trump starts talking about mo money fo pograms, I will concede that he is a cuckservative.
He has done an amazing job so far and the media is certainly helping. But his advisors are shit. He should have brought up the Cologne issue already.
Loved his comment about "assume the mantle of anger" during the debates though.
Democrats are racists that support racist Affirmative Action, which is condescending to the blacks and actually very fucking racist towards Asians - this law will lower a persons SAT scores for being Asian and raise a persons SAT scores for being black. Basically this law says Asians are too smart and Blacks are too dumb.
Democrats can't explain their racism, so they call everyone else a racist.
That's exactly what he did. Does someone need to post the gif of that awkward "I'm cool with black people" handshake he forced on Dr. Carson?
You're alpha daddy trump was kissing Carson's ass when he didn't think he could hurt him.
Remind what Trump's stance is on Israel, the military industrial complex, and the 4th amendment again?
>all minimum wage workers are service industry
cuckservatives actually believe this
>By supporting socialism you are indirectly supporting a dictatorship. Dictatorship by a select elite that oversees the distribution of everything.
that's not what bernie believes, though
all the fucking time, jesus, how dense are you?
but bernie doesn't want a giant government guiding your every move
What's wrong with inheriting success? There are plenty of millionaires who fritter their wealth away on hookers and blow, and others who continue to make productive investments. There is literally nothing wrong with inheriting success, it's the strongest motivator FOR the long-term planning that major wealth creation requires.
Democrats are racist and support racism and vote for racism while calling everyone that isnt racist a racist.
>all this /pol/ red pill meme shit
Their parents. You really think the most successful individuals started from the bottom, now they here?
REMEMBER A VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS IS A VOTE FOR ANIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>I want America to do what Europe has done
He's pretty "extreme" on illegal immigration/Muslims but that window is shifting quickly- thanks to him. None of the other candidates seemed willing to acknowledge the seriousness of illegal immigration and he has taken advantage of the underlying anger around it.
However on other issues he's actually quite centrist. I think a lot of liberals would be on board with his moderate approach on abortion, gay marriage, taxation, etc, and he will be able to tack to the centre to bring in more people.
My fear is that his campaign is still too haphazard to get the nomination.
The worst thing you can call a democrat is a racist, because they know its true.
They support the KKK party, the confederate party, the racist party, the democratic party.
Democrats have been supporting some form of slavery since their inception. Today they want to enslave people through taxes.
We could already automate most (especially minimum wage) jobs, but then what would we do with the unemployed?
Well those 150k people are doing a pretty shitty job when 1k people max from /pol/, one of the shittiest places on the internet, in between spamming DUDE WEED LMAO, posting in is x white threads and enduring the shitposting from australia have achieved more with a few slogans, some simple memes and frog pictures
It's not rocket science, anon. The parents had to come to a position of wealth somehow.
>but he didnt earn it
how the fuck do you think one of these rich peoples parents acquired the money? their grandparents? their great-grandparents? it's passed down from the person who originally earned it.
Blacks were never going to vote for Carson because of his anti-welfare stance. Carson's support came from evangelical Christians.
>Remind what Trump's stance is on Israel, the military industrial complex, and the 4th amendment again?
I don't see how that's relevant to him being a cuck.
never said that
just tax it like any huge wealth acquisition
>yes corporate masters, keep fucking my loose anus
when they have any money at all?
what you're failing to understand like all cuckservatives is that "fair share" is different depending on how much you have
Let our good buddy Yuri explain things to all of you.
No democrat will admit their clear racism, they'll just call you a racist and hope their stupid friends agree.
Democrats are the party of racism, they have been since they created the KKK
>proper taxation, same way every modern country does it
Reality check friendo, most countries in the west, especially since the 2008 crisis, don't have the goverment paying for colleges, best we got here is cheaper loans. We probably pay back our debts more then in Burgerstan because in Europe, except maybe in Britain(which is basically a 2nd world country at this point), we don't got super marxist retarded indoctrination bullshit degrees. Maybe if you got rid of those and instead teach people a marketable skill college graduates will actually be able to pay back their debts.
You blame the system for your troubles when you should be blaming your parents for your uneasy upbringing. How much money and comfort would it take someone like you before you can make your own successful business?
All democrats don't give a shit about brown people, they support racism and vote for actual institutionalized racism, while standing on a platform incorrectly characterizing innocent people as racists or stupid. Democrats are racist, tell your friends about how they support institutionalized racism and now even Rape Culture - Islam.
Yes exactly. Their parents got where they are from the sweat of their brow. Their children however, the only thing that separates them from the leeches in society is the gibs me dats their parents gave them.
I'm not very updated. Are there any foresights of who is probably going to be elected? Does Trump has any chance? I would love to see him as the next president (he might helps out Germany).
Democrats love the confederate flag, the KKK and institutionalized racism. It sounds crazy but look at their history and the laws they support like affirmative action and the mass importation of countries that operate on sharia law - law that has allowances for legal rape and sex slavery.
Democrats are the fucking enemy, let everyone know.
trump loses to bernie and hillary in general matchups right now (unreliable this far out)
hillary is an easier struggle for trump than bernie
bernie and hillary are nearly tied with bernie gaining in Iowa (42% vs. 40%) and bernie is up by a lot in NH
bernie is high 30's, low 40's nationally, depending on the poll
>>people should be enslaved to corporations
>I bet you supported romney in 2012
I supported him over King NIgger, sure, but it didn't go further then that because of how uninteresting Romney was. I'm also Dutch so it's not even that relevant.
You probably didn't even read my post though.
>Bernie needs a fundraiser
Democrats are all racist, they support and vote for racism but deny it. Affirmative action even fits the dictionary definition of racism.
Despite their use of the word "White" as a pejorative, they are lead by white supremacists, preying on the weak and uneducated to create systems of welfare which keep minorities poor while exposing citizens to immigrants that support Sharia law - a legal system that allows rape and sex slavery.
Democrats are the party of the KKK and the confederacy, it is a racist party that supports affirmative action that harms both blacks and asians more than it harms any white people. Its literally institutionalized racism, something no republican ever has supported since
the republicans freed the slaves, in spite of the violent and racist democrat's that started the KKK to kill black people and republicans.
>just tax it like any huge wealth acquisition
so what you're saying is you support a death tax? fucking liberals want to jew you over even in death.
>Their children however, the only thing that separates them from the leeches in society is the gibs me dats their parents gave them.
They carry on the genetic material of their superior lineage.
>What arbitrary numbers are you gonna throw out?
how about 90% :^)
>How do you justify taking what people work for?
based on how much of the wealth they're taking, it is easily justified
>Why do you disagree with the American dream?
I forgot the american dream was to work your ass off with multiple jobs until you never retire because some rich asshole who got handed everything in life but still cries about welfare killed your retirement funds
Notwithstanding those polls, Hillary scares me a lot more. She has a really well-tuned, well funded, political machine. Though she's really unlikeable I could see her attracting a lot of support if Trump doesn't unveil some more centrist policies to make up for the more right-wing ones that should win him the nomination.
Bernie on the other hand has so much fodder to attack him.
socialism is wonderful for fat, lazy, mindless drones devoid of all ambition and purpose in life.
now if you could just get them to put down their bongs and xbox controllers to go vote....
DJI is down over 8% in the first 10 trading days of 2016, down over 12.5% off 2015 highs.
Workforce participation rate is at 62%, the lowest it's been since Jimmy Carter was president.
The underemployment rate is at 14.6%.
Home ownership is at 63%, the lowest it's been since 1967.
Almost 40% of the adult 55+ population is still having to work, the highest level since 1961.
Health insurance premiums nation wide are expected to rise 20-40% in 2016.
1 in 5 Americans is on food stamps - an all time high.
I'm not voting for Ted Cruz, a lawyer and politician since 2003.
I'm not voting for Marco Rubio, another lawyer and politician since 2000.
I'm not voting for Jeb! Bush, a banker and lifetime, multi-generational politician since 1999.
I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton, yet another lawyer and politician since 1979.
I'm not voting for Bernie Sanders, a self proclaimed socialist and politician since 1972.
Who would be best to fix the US economy? A lawyer? People who live and work for DC - the exact cause of all of the problems listed above? Or someone who has never worked in that toxic environment?
I'm voting for someone who isn't owned by this system. Someone who has owned this system and has stood up and send THIS IS WRONG, we are taking advantage of the hardworking taxpayers of America and I'VE HAD ENOUGH! Someone who knows DC doesn't care about us at all, because DC only cares about themselves. Someone who has taken advantage of the system and says we need to close loopholes that protect billionaires and crush the middle-class. Someone who understand the economy and has over 40 years of experience working, breathing, and winning in it. Someone who has never held political office.
I'm voting for Donald Trump.
We'll get real high, and prep the bull
Running up debt, not paid in full
Those who vote for trump will learn
AYYLMAO FEEL THE BERN
Do YOU have what it takes to be a cuck lantern? Get dubs at you're in! Trips and you're in the Alpha corps!
sorry to be antagonistic. i'm just trying to point out the argument frequently used to rebut any attempts at taxing inheritance. the people against it just scream "DEATH TAX!"
In a country that just elected Obama twice I doubt it. This is why so many doors are kept open in this country in terms of immigrants/outsiders moving here. The new stock that moves here have no sense of Americanism or values much less how the real political system works in terms of believing lying assholes who have no intension of keeping the promises they made that would get them elected. Like trump saying, "I will deport all Illegals." Which he will never do but says in order to reach the base he has chosen.
Same as big brother bernie who is saying whatever he thinks will get him votes no matter how stupid it really is. And it is stupid shit for people who love the ideas but have no idea how it would work in practice. Not well I can assure you.
American politics in a nutshell. They want to reach the position will say anything to get there so they can do what they really wanted all along. Usually to set things up so themselves and their friends make more and more money while laughing all the way to the bank at the naive voters who actually believed their bullshit.
MFW all of the 5 Eyes (read:closest allies to the USA) are a socialist democracy
Canada- single payer healthcare, cheap university
UK- single payer healthcare, cheap university
Austi- Single payer healthcare, cheap university
NZ- single payer healthcare, cheap university
Do you see any mass protests about them? Only those to keep them in place.
>Someone who has owned this system and has stood up and send THIS IS WRONG, we are taking advantage of the hardworking taxpayers of America and I'VE HAD ENOUGH!
Try to read next time, k bud?
the government fucks you in the ass for politicians personal gains, which is why you support more taxes, so the government and politicians can get rich while fucking you in the ass. because youre a faggot.
>the government fucks you in the ass for politicians personal gains
why is it cuckservatives can never go beyond just one idea
the government fucks you in the ass for politicians personal gains... for corporations who own those politicians
You really are retarded aren't you?
The top 1% pay half of all taxes, you are contributing 12% or maybe 2%.
Like when Bill Clinton forced banks to create subprime loans? With the community reinvestment act? And like when Obama forced you to pay banks - insurance banks, to create Subprime healthcare?
No thats not Trump, and "the rich" is a massive generalization. You racist cunt.
He literally listed all the problems Bernie has been campaigning to fix, then says I'm not voting for Bernie because of a label he's scared of. Trump has even promised to keep some of what he said as the status quo, such as not raising minimum wage.
Read his policies at www.feelthebern.org.
I thought I did.
And it was so funny, too.
It was like, one guy who decided to vote for jeb.
I think people want to vote for who wants to help THEM.
I'm already successful, I make 85k a year and own two houses. I'm voting for Trump.
IF I was a jobless nigger/shitty degree holder, I'd vote Bernie...it's that simple.
The representation of the people continously fucks the people over. They make the regulations and deals of which big pharma, insurance companies, banks etc. profit from.
All the issues are to be pointed at the folk representation except for certain economic issues that aren't directly attributable to them. But the majority still are. Politicians not carrying responsibility is retarded, they are the ones responsible.
It's ignorant to think that Bernie Sanders or Trump or Clinton or whoever will really change this structure. This structure is unbreakable since there are some very powerful institutions that can destroy nations if they stopped liking a nation (the proof off this is all over Africa btw). They will continue to profit while regular people don't really. You can't change it.
good, put the factors of production you control to their most productive use
They absolutely did, between buying policy they wanted from our politicians to create self serving policy (mostly this to be honest) to dismantling the single strongest consumer and production economy in the world to save a few cents on the dollar at every turn, to petitioning to make credit substantially easier to get and locking every American under the age of 50 into a never ending cycle of debt. The rich have literally turned us into serfs, well, that's a lie, serfs didn't have to worry about food and shelter if they put in a full day of work.
I'm not alone. By the time the elections roll around it will probably be 20 jobs. Thats not just 20 jobs, thats 100% of revenue that the United States will never tax or have spent here.
>American under the age of 50 into a never ending cycle of debt
Why the fuck are they so stupid? They're so stupid, I'm not in debt. Why should I help the stupid? I like evolution, id rather stupid people die or at least not afford to reproduce.
I wish you luck. I have enough financial independence to only purchase American products, except for a few things like cars, which I buy at least 20 years old, so, I got that goin for me. In other words, you'll never earn a cent from me you unpatriotic shit.
Oh shit, I didn't even notice. Thanks for pointing that out. One more thing I can strike off my bucket list.
Bernie is a retard, just like all berntards. His "free" gibmedats aren't even possible to pay for.
You college kids should hit the books or get some work experience instead of fucking around on 4chan. Most likely your overpriced "education" won't do you any good.
Thats it really. There are no "FREE" elections and the canidates are basically prechosen pick one but we own them all.
Get the money out and things could maybe change. A real represenative of america could be elected as president rather than displaying one group of people left, right, center and saying these are presidential pick one, which is basically what happens now.
They all suck and there is not one person Presidential among them. No matter who gets elected in this pool nothing changes and policy and corruption just moves forward.
Its all a sham and watching so many people bickering and bitching about who is saying this and who is saying that is just sad.
Way to much money and influence is injected to the process to even think for a second these people who spend millions and millions of dollars to help someone get elected dont want anything in return for it and just do it for the good of the country. Yea.
You won't know, I make and sell software. You won't even know you're using my shit.
And Bernie and Hillary don't want me here, so fuck them, but most of all, fuck you. I won't ever pay for your bullshit, no matter how hard you try.
He doesn't really own a business, or he'd know that. Also, small businesses are the first in line to fucking prosper from a min wage increase. Do you think anyone wants to go to fucking walmart?
Cool, have fun.
You cant change their game while playing by their rules. Does that make any sense?
Find a way to get the money out of the electoral process and you would start to see people who really do care about their country rising up thru the people and reaching office.
The entire system is broken as it stands today and nobody likes to have their influence and power fucked with so doubt it will ever change and will probably just get worse.
Take a trip to the West coast and you'll understand. Boomers line up with upper-middle class millennials when it comes to politics, until you get out of the city and it's the same shit but with Trump.
I swear, i'm gonna be so bummed if it doesn't come down to a Sanders vs. Trump race. Nobody seems to give half a shit about any of the candidates besides those two. It would get really heated.
>Find a way to get the money out of the electoral process and you would start to see people who really do care about their country rising up thru the people and reaching office.
that's exactly what sanders is doing, though
he doesn't even have a finance team and all donations are capped at $2.7k
yes keep failing at math. I love when you kids fail and beg for "gibmedats" from politicians. Its ok, I won't pay for your shit, and im already able to pay almost no taxes the same way zuckerberg does. My salary is also $1 per year, which means my taxed income is $1 per year. Using loans, just about anyone can protest a failed government with socialist dictators by never paying you cucks a cent.
You're pretending all small business costs are minimum wage labor, and that its some principal people "know". You people are so childish and stupid, we can all tell that youre 14 years old. Give up and go to bed kiddos.
>>wanting everyone to pay their fair share is jealousy
>implying a flat tax isn't the only FAIR way to tax EQUALITY
idiot libtards everyone.
>i want a fair tax, where everyone pays their fair share, but rich people pay a lot more
you are so fucking stupid.
>i want a fair tax, where everyone pays their fair share, but rich people pay a lot more
now thats comedy.
You're the one saying you have minimum wage programmers whose jobs you're going to outsource. I have no idea what the fuck advantage that would give you over continuing to have them employed in the US, unless they are, incredibly, college educated professionals in one of the most healthy areas of the economy working for you for minimum wage, in which case, nothing of value was lost.
Seriously, at least make up something believable if you want to make me believe your sob story.
A small business that barely gets business won't benefit from paying employees more. Added bonus: they have to fire their employees, raise prices, or pay out of pocket to make up for the losses. Good plan, bern.
Socialism is literal feces without ethnic nationalism.
I never said I pay programmers a minimum wage. I do all the programming right now, the 10 I employ are sales and support.
You kids will learn how this works one day. Everyone makes between 12-20$/hr right now.
don't ask for a fair tax then expect people to pay differently. it's fucking dumb, just like you are. say you want an unfairly proportioned tax because that's what you are describing.
>A small business that barely gets business won't benefit from paying employees more.
>barely gets business
what happened to muh free market guiding things?
>Added bonus: they have to fire their employees, raise prices, or pay out of pocket to make up for the losses. Good plan, bern.
keep subsidizing wal-mart then
You write as dumb as your reaction pic looks. Not sure where you're getting your information, but I never said I pay programmers minimum wage. Your small mind invented that fiction.
Honestly, a progressive tax system makes a lot more sense than a flat tax system, and there's no reaason for a "flat tax" if you simply reduce the base rates, make more brackets, and get rid of at least 80% of deductions, as well as get rid of special rates for cap gains, since, they are, in fact, the same as every other kind of income.
By the way - College educated professionals, I would never hire a programmer that went to college. I've interviewed them, programmers that love programming are the best programmers. College educated programmers are the worst programmers I've ever seen. As a rule, I don't hire them. But so far, I haven't hired any programmers, im just doing interviews.
You think people are going to buy software from your company when your reps can't even speak english, lol. You have no idea how fast people will hang up on them in every country around the planet, because I don't know if you know this, but people who want to telescam you usually have thick Indian or African accents, and they almost always want to talk to you about your computer software.
>if you feel you can pay them a lower wage do it
>if you think you can save money by outsourcing do it
channeling resources to their most efficient use through the price mechanism is good, you're just fear mongering
the only thing ive heard him say i thought was good was when he grilled the head of the FDA and said, "how come we can import fish and produce here from all over the planet earth, yet we cant import name brand drugs here from canada paying 1/10th the price of what they cost across the border here in the US."
The guy gave a total shit answer and you could tell he was in the back pocket of big pharma.
That is about all ive seen or heard from the man I thought made sense.