Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.
Reminder that Bernie Sanders is surging in Iowa.
Reminder that Bernie Sanders is polling better than Hillary Clinton against every Republican candidate.
Reminder Donald Trump is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.
Reminder that Donald Trump is surging in Iowa.
Reminder that Donald Trump is polling better than Hillary Clinton against every Republican candidate.
also trump isnt a cuck
trump 1 bernie 0
Neither do we have colleges, nor are our universities tuition-free.
At best, you can get by with paying 300€ a semester for a mandatory public transport ticket and the knowledge that your university is underfunded and controlled by dipshits who spend all of their money on liberal arts.
Well, at least there's still the TUs. Kinda sad that the "Exzellenzuni" term gets more attention than Technische Universität, even though the former is used even on underfunded shitholes with holes in the ceilings, while the latter actually means quality and getting shit done.
Seriously, what's up with the "college" thing? Whenever you mention it, it sounds like another stage of school, not like higher education.
Feel the bern!
Best Bernie video!
Reminder that Bernie is a literal nigger kuck.
>Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.
What is the education industry?
>Reminder that Bernie Sanders is surging in Iowa.
Surging sure is a big word for big people
>Reminder that Bernie Sanders is polling better than Hillary Clinton against every Republican candidate.
literally sides in space
Reminder that ISIS, radical Islam, Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia/Putin would all rape sweet Bernie to death.
Yeah, elect him America. All america's enemies, and alpha countries, will feel the Berni.
Reminder that Bernie can't basic economics, and his supporters will think his "genius" will give them all free shit.
>not shilling for billionaires
Nigger what the fuck are unions then? Teaparties where mob bosses sit in chairs and talk about spaghetti all the time?
Labor Unions are worth assloads of money. Face it, Bernie Sanders is a bought an paid for cuck like Guac Bush and Hillary Clinton.
it's not 1920 anymore bub
unions literally do nothing but play politics now
and many states require membership, and payment of dues, so you have no say in what happens and you finance their power unwillingly
>mfw a liberal thinks he understands our system, let alone that it'll work in the states
also unions will put politics before your job, and turn down important contracts that keep people in the workforce for petty things like not getting "enough" money
all or nothing with these people, and they generally vote democrat or fund democrat
Here in sweden people get degrees and stuff in bullshit, taking them for granted. Then wind up working at mcdonalds. Americas system is better if you truly want something you have to work for it, rather than be given it on a silver platter.
Yes, because we all know there definitely isn't an extreme over-saturation of university educated people
Maybe make STEM subjects tuition-free (assuming the person is smart enough to do it) but not anything else
The cake is a lie.
>literally saying "but everyone else is doing it"
is it bait or truth?
tell me the right wing in the US is not a kike pandering political party.
tell me trump hasnt been a democrat his entire life. hes not nearly as extreme as the idiots in the party who are running as a figure head. hes actually running as a person who wants to be a leader, and i respect that. even if i think he's a blowhard and wouldnt beat sanders in the general. he could beat hillary though, and id rather see trump than clinton.
>Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.
He voted for raising debt ceiling every time. Whomever USA government and thus its people are indebted to is who Bernie is working for.
>implying not raising the debt ceiling wouldnt throw our nation and in turn the world into a depression.
the debt ceiling is approval to pay off old debts, or the interest on said debts.
i love how all these fuckin foreigners pretend they know anything about american politics. id say im surprised but they get there information from /pol/
Reminder that all Bernie does on twitter is pander to niggers and tells them they dindu nuffin for their votes. A true jew lying bigot.
Reminder that Bernie not only wants to collapse America with his sweet brand of Communism, but he also wants to be the welfare country to all the world. Even if it does not work.
Reminder that Bernie excuses nigger crime.
Just tells niggers what they want to hear so they vote for him.
Tea nigger really
Most students who are in need of financial help are studying practical subjects, the creative arts and feminist history studiers are generally from upper-middle class families with daddies who're generous with their wallets
And since obviously, Bernie hopes to cater to students of ALL subjects there'll be much more constructive students who are more financially flexible than the two subjects you mentioned
>increase social security spending
>provide "free" college education and medical
>apparently also wants to dump more capital into the money pit that is Africa
He can't be that fucking stupid to think that the country can afford to pay for all of that. Even if you took literally every fucking penny from the rich.
HAHA OP WANTS A JEW IN THE WHITEHOUSE
IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE KEKED ANY FURTHER?????????
>being a global superpower is disadvantageous
Free college isn't free you dumb fuck
Free college is free for the young degenerate losers who now have more incentive to get a bullshit degree than one that will pay well
Free college costs a fuckton more for taxpayers and gives universities fucktons more in profits
Reminder that Bernie knows he's going to crash the economy but he doesn't see it as a problem
Wow. The west is fucked if this guy gets elected. Mudslimes will destroy Europe and blacks will destroy America. gg
48,6 % of Denmarks GDP comes from taxation.
Yes we educate doctors for free.
Then these doctors have to pay a lot in taxes, and then human greed kicks in.
They don't want to pay as much in tax, move abroad, scam the government by reporting consultations, that never happened, and they get paid for or work extra hours in private clinics to earn more money, resulting in tired doctors and many medical mistakes.
Yes this is an university education.
For our college equivalent is has inflated. Way way too many people take college and will never do anything with it, because there are too many that are overeducated.
Meanwhile we lack people who take technical educations, like plumber, carpenter etc.
These overeducated people will then refrain from taking jobs below their "education grade".
Result - Academics are oversupplied and on welfare.
Low education jobs are undersupplied.
Like him or not, and his politics that is a fantastic point.
Big business and the kikes wanted a globalized world right?
So let the americans pick and choose what they like about the global village
typical bernie voters
HE EVEN JUST FUCKING DROPPED THE GENDER WAGE GAP BULLSHIT ON HIS TWITTER AGAIN A FEW DAYS AGO
>Free college costs a fuckton more for taxpayers and gives universities fucktons more in profits
It's the same problem US healthcare has. Guaranteed payments to private enterprises means rising costs.
>implying our college is free
>implying we aren't massively in debt after we're finished with college
You really, really don't want to be us.
Reminder that Bernie lies to blacks about the real threat to them in America: Their niggers killing them. Actually, the main threat to whites too really.
Nah, its all Whiteys fault, so vote for me little negro dogies. I tell you what makes you feel good, so vote for me my little negro dogies.
Bernie is the best because brocialism is the best political ideology.
"Brocialism" was supposed to be intended as an insult, but the SJWs who came up with it were apparently too retarded to figure out that it sounds pretty fucking awesome
Trump tells the people that illegal immigrants are a bigger threat than megacorporations who can alter their policies without any governmental authorisation as to remove thousands of people from their jobs at once
Reminder that it's all bread and circuses.
Bernie won't do shit about the Jews and Trump probably won't build that wall. Neither will even see the whitehouse.
Enjoy your memes though.
>we should follow not one sinking ship but many
americans please don't vote for him
you think socialism will fix your problems but it won't
we're all rooting for you guys, whether you elect trump or not, make america great again
>billionaires make the best presidents since they won't be influenced by billionaires
First, America can't afford it. Going to be 20 trillion dollar debt soon. Has to deal with its own problems now.
And even if do it, besides Bernie's Unicorn magic of bullshit, he would just ruin America even more.
Second, just throwing money at poor countries does NOT work. Never has. Most often than not, those supeer poor countries also usually just steal any foreign aid anyways. By their corrupt leaders.
Any economist will tell you, just throwing money to Africa, will never help it.
He literally is a communist that tells his dumb college Neets, and niggers, and others, bullshit dreams. Not reality of our world.
Maybe 100 years ago Bernies brand of bullshit would have been possible in America. If even.
But not now. If there was no 20 trillion dollar debt maybe.
America was founded on the fact that we must work for everything we have unlike those freeloading ethnic tribes in Europe who get free shit because of their ancestry.
unions are shit yes but the alternative is to have big business becoming ethical which is an even bigger pile of bullshit
if you lot cant have the scandinavian model of unions better have the classic than no unions, 19 century style
Even African niggers know that it’s a waste of money to throw aid into Africa.
Not only that, but it’s one of the reasons why the population of Africa is growing that much — while white population froze.
If we keep aiding Africa, sooner or later the entire world will be like Africa.
Please, muricans, don’t elect this dumb kike. For the future of the whole world, elect a Republican.
He could have lived as a spoiled shit head with his inheritance. But instead he works hard everyday to become more successful. He could have been like paris hilton and partied every day and snort coke.
Holy shit that's the greatest example of cutting and taking things out of context I've ever seen. I'm not even mad, I'm actually impressed.
He has said time and time again that he would NOT raise it to 90%. For fuck's sake.
One of Trump's main talking points is that corporations are going to China with jobs and that he wants to get rid of the shit load of loopholes they abuse in the tax code. He's well aware they're a bunch of greedy assholes because he knew practically all of them.
>Literally electing a jew
OP go back to /reddit/
Trump has never said that.
He said they are a big problem. And yes they are. Obviously not the only problem.
And yes, ILLEGAL immigrants are a problem for any country. They are not immigrants. By their definition they are criminals.
And Trump talks almost weekly about corrupt corporations, about corporations leaving America, about the government being in bed with them etc. He talks the truth how the rich buy politicians. How corporations buy the government. He pretty much says that at all his rallies.
Most people who have student debt loans never have to pay them back. There's some kind of law which says you can be cleared of the loan if you're deemed not being able to ever be able to pay it back.
The American people have gained NOTHING from their involvement in the middle east you dumb fuck taco, only corporations have, the only thing they gained was a huge anti war and liberal backlash
go get another chink president
>One of Trump's main talking points is that corporations are going to China with jobs
And what is he going to do about it without trashing the US living standard?
>and that he wants to get rid of the shit load of loopholes they abuse in the tax code
He should know, he's using them as well. Maybe different ones per line of business, but be aware that his will stay.
It's nice that your house is burning down controlled now. Your house is still burning down.
I have paid my loans for seven years and still have $20k in debt from a state (public) school....and that was cheap, and I am an engineer.
I think finding a happy medium is probably a worthy goal?
Nope he actually is a shill for billionaires. He gets sponsored by large companies ffs do you think he gets sponsored for funzies?
He's like labour parties over here in Europe. They say they are for the lower and middle class but everytime they are in power quality of life for lower and middle class declines while large business gets more power lol. And in particular insurance, pharmaceutical and housing areas benefit tremendously. Of course the ones producing by getting really easy regulations thrown their way or population gets harsher regulations.
Another source then. This author not only has testified in congress but holds a masters degree in labor economics
>uneducated anon: 0
>Tell me, what would you give a rich man to control him?
I'm not saying he needs to be controlled. I'm saying he is the problem, the one who would normally control. He's cutting out the middle man.
>We'll have jobs again
And they won't pay more than they do now, but everything that's now made in china will cost a lot more.
Didn't he already advocate taking in more refugees?
... You're not being serious right?
Trump intends on taking back MANUFACTURING jobs from China, millions upon millions of foxcon workers working probably for under 50 cents an hour
How he is going to make a smooth transition and give a bunch of people in the US manufacturing jobs or other low labour is simply impossible
He's a dumb idealistic jew who is furthering morals going down the drain
Where do you get all those trillions of dollars from?
>"The 1% of course!"
Even if they have a lot of money, it still won't be enough. Plus there's nothing stopping them from moving to another country. Canada is just above the states.
He just wants to make the US a commie shithole and tax everyone 90%
And do you know why it works in Germany or Sweden? Because they don't have 350 million people
>Google "FYAD cuck"
>no results before 2014
>google "something awful cuck"
>One result from 2009 about a lolcow website of actual cuckolds
No mentions of cuck, the meme, as used today from back then.
Regardless, arguing over who started cuck is pure distilled autism. You can have it if you really want it.
I doubt he actually has beliefs. He has a stage persona, which is something differently entirely.
His followers, however, have beliefs. And they'll deny reality any day to accomodate them.
That's because FYAD is a hidden forum, so it doesn't show up on Google.. Also you're the one mad that 4chan didn't invent it lol. Kind of an autistic thing to get mad about, don't you think..?
Let's hammer this in more
China does have a labor union and also more over China's economy is heavily structured and controlled by The State, something Bernie wants. Herrmmm?
Reminder that Bernie even licked the asshole of the fake lying #blacliesmatter colllege bullshit.
>safe spaces for niggers in college
>Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.
Wrong, Trump's tax plan will actually raise taxes on the rich and close loopholes, however if the economy starts to boom like it should this will be offset.
It's incredible how cuckservatives in /pol/ get their information from memes. They actually believe that those pictures with a quote justapossed are true 10% of the times. It's sad. And the worst part is that then those retards excert huge influence in my country politics
>Most students who are in need of financial help are studying practical subjects, the creative arts and feminist history studiers are generally from upper-middle class families with daddies who're generous with their wallets
complete bullshit. the overwhelming majority of students of all backgrounds are doing easier subjects that will never benefit the country
the govt should only subsidise subjects that the country is in dire need of
This. The fact that this isn't on the platform for any Democrat candidate tells you all you need to know. It won't get them votes from idiots who paid 100k for a useless degree and want their debt forgiven, so they don't propose it. The Democrats are a populist party 100%, and will advocate literally anything that might win them an election, regardless of a policy's viability.
It's the Bible meme where every time slavery is supported or something modern "Christians" don't like it's obviously out of context, because why would God/Bernie claim something "obviously wrong" is right?
> over saturation
What do you mean? Should there be quotas for education?
And the problem of so many women studies and such is that american universities let enter a unlimited number of students in to those degrees. In my country we just limit the entrances to degrees.
The Danish tax rates make me sick to my stomach
>The Democrats are a populist party 100%
The same as a republican, don't fool yourself.
> who paid 100k for a useless degree
Why do you allow this? To let a corporation (university) take advantage of impressionable young students? Why do american universities even offer this shit degrees?
The degenerate cuck is making an bigger government, which is the main issue of America's problems (Trump isn't gonna cut entitlements, which is bad but at least he isn't gonna expand the welfare state anymore.)
>The state is like a mother
Nailed it, Alberto.
im not sayin bernie is bad but if everyone gets free college then college isn't going to mean shit to any employer. Most colleges these days are just daycares for rich kids that use nigger slave gladiators killing each other in a colosseum to make shit tons of money. The only thing a degree tells an employer is that you can stick with something at least four years.
Guarantee you the top 1% are still going to have colleges you aren't allowed in to.
>The same as a republican, don't fool yourself.
Not to the same extent.
>Why do you allow this? To let a corporation (university) take advantage of impressionable young students? Why do american universities even offer this shit degrees?
Because the government has already been subsidizing higher education up front in the form of student loans. The rate of inflation for a degree far exceeds that of the currency. Blaming the universities is disingenuous though. This problem begins with student loans and the results are predictable. When you're getting lump sums of money up-front a person is less likely to be risk-adverse and many people take out more than they even need and spend the money elsewhere. There's also mandatory online literature explaining how loans work and advising anyone taking one out on how to use them. People willfully ignore this and just check the boxes and sign. College is not for everyone, least of all those who are too ignorant to understand how a simple loan works. Government loans even have minimal interest rates, (0% for those below a certain income level), and yet people want to shirk their responsibility to pay them and try to use political mechanisms to get out pf it. I find it reprehensible, but a predictable outcome of bad policy driven by idealistic ideology, (ie. Everyone should go to college!!!).
No, since anon >>61164780 was talking about personal preferences, i did the same.
>Yes, i want the state to take care of me. I love it.
On the contrary of you guys, i still have a family that cares about me. If i didn't had them and had a distant family, i would be even more autistic then i am.
He is gonna create a single payer health system.
I don't get it cuckservatives. You want guns to protect yourselves from a "tyranical" government, yet want to keep governement to minimum, yet you guys praticaly cum when someone says we shlould keep our military strong.
> tfw literally going to study in the US and pay for the whole deal myself
Why don't Americans just do the same in Europe? Are they unaware of the fact that there is no tution for International students in Germany?
Why do they need to fuck over their homecountry?
>if everyone gets free college then college isn't going to mean shit to any employer.
Isn't that basically what's happening already?
I mean, how about switching the entry bar from "won't mind tens of thousands of dollars in debt" to "good enough to pass the entrance exam for his course"? That'd preserve some degree of degree "scarcity" and may actually enable upping difficulty (and with it the value of the degree) again.
>Not to the same extent.
Yes, the same. Everytime a candidate says "muh guns" and "muh take care of vets" it's the purest form of populism. Just pandering to different people.
>Blaming the universities is disingenuous though.
Completely wrong. Who do you think fought to institute student loans? Universities. It's perfect for them. They clear their hands and can raise the tuition.
>When you're getting lump sums of money up-front a person is less likely to be risk-adverse
I agree with you, that is why think giving a student of 18 a loan of over 50k is not very correct.
>College is not for everyone
Absolutely with you in this. That is why we should discriminate students on their grades, not the wallets of their parents
Compounding the problem will not solve it. As far as military spending, it's bloated. It should be slimmed down and made more efficient, but unlike subsidizing worthless degrees, defense is a necessary role of government.
You willfully ignore logical arguments and resort to pointless shitflinging, thus making it impossible to engage in rational discourse with you. You are a troll.
Oh boy, a /pol/tard who can take it but not dish it out.
So when you guys are here in your echo chamber saying whatever you want about progressives, truth be damned, it's fine - But god forbid a progressive enter your echo chamber and say something back! oh lord no! We need to have "rational discourse" now.
>Compounding the problem will not solve it.
Ignoring it won't solve it either, what's your suggestion? Limiting degrees to those whose parents can afford them?
Throwing money at private colleges obviously won't solve the problem either. But I'd suggest a similar approach as is taken with schools - private schools for those who can afford them, public but free schools for the rest. Only difference: Limited course spots, and entrance exams. If you have 100 slots for engineering, the best 100 get them.
>It should be slimmed down and made more efficient, but unlike subsidizing worthless degrees, defense is a necessary role of government.
Well, you can argue that ensuring the country continues to have an educated worker base is crucial for the future of the country as a whole. Governments need to think further than just the next scary superhitler the media's blowing out of proportion. The question is just the "how", and everyone's convinced they have found the one perfect way.
The mandatory transport ticket is actually set by the students, not by the University.
And you make it sound like there is any area at all, be it education (Grundschule übers Gymnasium bis zur Uni) infrastructure or the police that isn`t totally underfunded.
>promising free college
>promising free healthcare
none which he will achieve , his tax rate is retarded and the only reason he has a high support because of the same reason Trudeau had high support, DUDE WEED LMAO. There is nothing wrong with legalized weed but voting for someone for the sole reason of them legalizing weed is fucking dumb.
I don't know much about him, but he seems to me a totally bro guy (just like cuckservatives say about Dubya). He has a face that inspires trust. Has weed been legalized already?
>Ignoring it won't solve it either, what's your suggestion? Limiting degrees to those whose parents can afford them?
Stop subsidizing higher education altogether except for programs that are for fields that are economically important and have a labor shortage. Assign government scholarships for these programs based on academic merit. Re-evaluate which programs get scholarships every five years by evaluating labor.trends. Subject universities to the law of supply and demand, and watch tuition rates drop. Less lucrative programs will have even lower tuition prices instead of all programs costing the same amount per semester.
>Stop subsidizing higher education altogether except for programs that are for fields that are economically important and have a labor shortage.
So, delay fixing a labor shortage until several years after it got bad enough that even politics will move?
Because that's will happen. And for the rest of the population: Only those with wealthy parents get higher education. You just killed a significant factor of social mobility.
>So, delay fixing a labor shortage until several years after it got bad enough that even politics will move?
No, this would be handled by the department of education on a regular basis. Not subject to political motives in congress.
>And for the rest of the population: Only those with wealthy parents get higher education. You just killed a significant factor of social mobility.
This is only the case if you believe that a degree is actually necessary for every field and ignore the link between subsidization of higher education. College is not expensive in and of itself, and tuition rates will fall if there is a motive to compete for the money.
Americans arent given degrees on a silver platter, but our degrees in liberal arts are just as worthless as yours. 80% of my friends from highschool got degrees in liberal fields, and I already know a few of them who are now working odd jobs and in restaurants/bars. The rest will probably be teachers.
>In my country we just limit the entrances to degrees.
That is a smart decision from an economical standpoint. Any good leader would know that if their country is full of artists it will fail. But I guess the American mindset only cares about more money in it's pocket and not the success of the country.