Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is

Reminder Donald Trump is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.

Reminder that Donald Trump is surging in Iowa.

Reminder that Donald Trump is polling better than Hillary Clinton against every Republican candidate.

also trump isnt a cuck
trump 1 bernie 0

>>61158270
the only presidential candidate*
oops :^)

BUT ITS COMMUNISM. DIDNT WORK LAST TIME HEH =)

>>61156804
Please trade places with >>61158270.

This is not a country for cucks.

>>61156804
back2reddit

>>61156804
>Germany
>tuition-free college
Yeah no.
Neither do we have colleges, nor are our universities tuition-free.
At best, you can get by with paying 300€ a semester for a mandatory public transport ticket and the knowledge that your university is underfunded and controlled by dipshits who spend all of their money on liberal arts.
Well, at least there's still the TUs. Kinda sad that the "Exzellenzuni" term gets more attention than Technische Universität, even though the former is used even on underfunded shitholes with holes in the ceilings, while the latter actually means quality and getting shit done.

Seriously, what's up with the "college" thing? Whenever you mention it, it sounds like another stage of school, not like higher education.

>>61156804
>cuck for minorities
>devalue college degrees

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Feel the bern!

Best Bernie video!


Bernie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo&feature=player_embedded

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Reminder that Bernie is a literal nigger kuck.

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>>61156804
>Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.

What is the education industry?

>Reminder that Bernie Sanders is surging in Iowa.

Surging sure is a big word for big people

>Reminder that Bernie Sanders is polling better than Hillary Clinton against every Republican candidate.

literally sides in space

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Reminder that ISIS, radical Islam, Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia/Putin would all rape sweet Bernie to death.

Yeah, elect him America. All america's enemies, and alpha countries, will feel the Berni.

>>61156804
If we all promise not to forget this, will you stop posting about him?

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Reminder that Bernie can't basic economics, and his supporters will think his "genius" will give them all free shit.

>>61156804
>not a shill for billionaires
>wants to borrow more money from banking billionaires and shove it at wealthy colleges

this level of cognitive dissonance is amazing

>>61158397
>literally licking billionaire's assholes clean
>not a cuck

Reminder That bernie would need ~70% of the vote in the primaries to get the nomination.

>>61156804
>not shilling for billionaires

Nigger what the fuck are unions then? Teaparties where mob bosses sit in chairs and talk about spaghetti all the time?

Labor Unions are worth assloads of money. Face it, Bernie Sanders is a bought an paid for cuck like Guac Bush and Hillary Clinton.

>>61159629
>Nigger what the fuck are unions then

Literally a collection of poor and middle class working people.

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>>61159683

it's not 1920 anymore bub

unions literally do nothing but play politics now

and many states require membership, and payment of dues, so you have no say in what happens and you finance their power unwillingly

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>>61156804
>mfw a liberal thinks he understands our system, let alone that it'll work in the states

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>Reddit

>>61159780
>unions literally do nothing but play politics now
This.
Unions are legalized mafia.

>>61159157
>cuckservatives have to resort to taking shit out of context
cuckservatives, everyone

>>61158270
>Reminder Donald Trump is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.

He IS a billionaire.

Cuck is a meaningless word outside of 4chan and fetish areas.

>>61159824
context for this?

>>61159780

also unions will put politics before your job, and turn down important contracts that keep people in the workforce for petty things like not getting "enough" money

all or nothing with these people, and they generally vote democrat or fund democrat

Here in sweden people get degrees and stuff in bullshit, taking them for granted. Then wind up working at mcdonalds. Americas system is better if you truly want something you have to work for it, rather than be given it on a silver platter.

99:1

>>61159683
Not talking about the people they hurt anon.

>>61156804
>Tuition-Free college

Yes, because we all know there definitely isn't an extreme over-saturation of university educated people

Maybe make STEM subjects tuition-free (assuming the person is smart enough to do it) but not anything else

>>61156804

Sooo, according to this...if Germany, Sweden, Austria, France and Finland provide asylum for rapefugees...so should you?

>>61156804
i find it hilarious how much /pol/ shills for the billionaires/billionaire party who are in turn shills for the kikes.

topkek /pol/, great satire.

>>61160057
Without unions we are literally no better than China. Have fun working at Foxconn West.

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>>61160026
>>61156804

The cake is a lie.

>>61159895
his rally livestream only had like 400 viewers or so while trump gets almost 20k viewers on rsb channel

>>61160208
Trump is basically independent.
And somehow building skyscrapers and hotels now makes you a bad guy?
I know this is cheap b8, but whatever.

>>61156804
Germany and Sweden also ban guns and restrict free speech.

WE SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME. HELLO ITS 2015+1

>>61160217
http://fee.org/freeman/31-labor-unions-raise-wages-and-the-standard-of-living/

Excuse me? Take a moment and get educated.

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>>61156804
>literally saying "but everyone else is doing it"

>>61160292
is it bait or truth?

tell me the right wing in the US is not a kike pandering political party.

tell me trump hasnt been a democrat his entire life. hes not nearly as extreme as the idiots in the party who are running as a figure head. hes actually running as a person who wants to be a leader, and i respect that. even if i think he's a blowhard and wouldnt beat sanders in the general. he could beat hillary though, and id rather see trump than clinton.

he is a kike. he only cares about the land his people stole from the Palestinians.

>>61160533
>le trust corporations to provide fair wages meme

Get real shill.

>>61160533
another low information voter shilling for the jew bank. good goy.

>>61156804
>Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.
He voted for raising debt ceiling every time. Whomever USA government and thus its people are indebted to is who Bernie is working for.

>>61161056
>implying not raising the debt ceiling wouldnt throw our nation and in turn the world into a depression.

the debt ceiling is approval to pay off old debts, or the interest on said debts.

i love how all these fuckin foreigners pretend they know anything about american politics. id say im surprised but they get there information from /pol/

topkek again.

>>61156804
>we need to subsidise and pay for students studying creative arts and feminist history etc

quickest way to lose my vote

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Reminder that all Bernie does on twitter is pander to niggers and tells them they dindu nuffin for their votes. A true jew lying bigot.

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Reminder that Bernie not only wants to collapse America with his sweet brand of Communism, but he also wants to be the welfare country to all the world. Even if it does not work.

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Reminder that Bernie excuses nigger crime.

Just tells niggers what they want to hear so they vote for him.

>>61161301

Tea nigger really

Most students who are in need of financial help are studying practical subjects, the creative arts and feminist history studiers are generally from upper-middle class families with daddies who're generous with their wallets

And since obviously, Bernie hopes to cater to students of ALL subjects there'll be much more constructive students who are more financially flexible than the two subjects you mentioned

>>61158270
>Trump isn't a shill for himself
kek

>>61161591
It would literally cost less to do that than to continue financing American military operations around the world which actually disadvantage the American people

>>61161591
>increase social security spending
>provide "free" college education and medical
>apparently also wants to dump more capital into the money pit that is Africa
He can't be that fucking stupid to think that the country can afford to pay for all of that. Even if you took literally every fucking penny from the rich.

>>61161745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

>>61161745
fuck off minor country who asked you

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HAHA OP WANTS A JEW IN THE WHITEHOUSE
IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE KEKED ANY FURTHER?????????

>>61161745
>being a global superpower is disadvantageous
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

>>61158270
>Not a shill for billionaires

because he himself is only a millionaire, but he still shills

>>61156804

Free college isn't free you dumb fuck

Free college is free for the young degenerate losers who now have more incentive to get a bullshit degree than one that will pay well

Free college costs a fuckton more for taxpayers and gives universities fucktons more in profits

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>>61161701
Wow. The west is fucked if this guy gets elected. Mudslimes will destroy Europe and blacks will destroy America. gg

>>61156804
48,6 % of Denmarks GDP comes from taxation.

Yes we educate doctors for free.

Then these doctors have to pay a lot in taxes, and then human greed kicks in.

They don't want to pay as much in tax, move abroad, scam the government by reporting consultations, that never happened, and they get paid for or work extra hours in private clinics to earn more money, resulting in tired doctors and many medical mistakes.

Yes this is an university education.

For our college equivalent is has inflated. Way way too many people take college and will never do anything with it, because there are too many that are overeducated.

Meanwhile we lack people who take technical educations, like plumber, carpenter etc.

These overeducated people will then refrain from taking jobs below their "education grade".

Result - Academics are oversupplied and on welfare.
Low education jobs are undersupplied.

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>Bernie thread

more like OCCUPY WALL STREET thread

Reminder that Sanders sees having taxes at war-time levels is a normal thing

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>>61161991

Like him or not, and his politics that is a fantastic point.

Big business and the kikes wanted a globalized world right?

So let the americans pick and choose what they like about the global village

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typical bernie voters

>>61161513

HE EVEN JUST FUCKING DROPPED THE GENDER WAGE GAP BULLSHIT ON HIS TWITTER AGAIN A FEW DAYS AGO

>>61161860
>Free college costs a fuckton more for taxpayers and gives universities fucktons more in profits
It's the same problem US healthcare has. Guaranteed payments to private enterprises means rising costs.

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>implying our college is free
>implying we aren't massively in debt after we're finished with college

You really, really don't want to be us.

>>61159917
was Trump or was Trump not given everything on a silver platter?

>>61156804
He's a shill for unions. Which is worse.

>>61162013
The lies they say is unbelievable.

I once argue with a bernie shill who claimed that bernie was a "nationalist". who wanted to protect the 2nd amendment.

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Reminder that Bernie lies to blacks about the real threat to them in America: Their niggers killing them. Actually, the main threat to whites too really.

Nah, its all Whiteys fault, so vote for me little negro dogies. I tell you what makes you feel good, so vote for me my little negro dogies.

Thread Theme Song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEEy615Jzg4

>>61160601
He's not a Hillary shill and he's not establishment.
I don't get your problem.

Bernie is the best because brocialism is the best political ideology.

"Brocialism" was supposed to be intended as an insult, but the SJWs who came up with it were apparently too retarded to figure out that it sounds pretty fucking awesome

>>61162102
Trump tells the people that illegal immigrants are a bigger threat than megacorporations who can alter their policies without any governmental authorisation as to remove thousands of people from their jobs at once

>>61156804
Reminder that it's all bread and circuses.

Bernie won't do shit about the Jews and Trump probably won't build that wall. Neither will even see the whitehouse.

Enjoy your memes though.

>>61156804
Thank you for reminding me that every single issue Bernie campains on is either irrelevent or harmful. How can anyone be so shallow as to be swayed by him?

>>61160816
>>61160721
>I don't got anything backing my claim

>better call him a goy

Pathetic

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>we should follow not one sinking ship but many
americans please don't vote for him
you think socialism will fix your problems but it won't
we're all rooting for you guys, whether you elect trump or not, make america great again

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>>61158270
>billionaires make the best presidents since they won't be influenced by billionaires

>>61162013
Bernie is going to end the wage gap through giving women high-paying manual labor jobs in infrastructure development

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>>61161745

First, America can't afford it. Going to be 20 trillion dollar debt soon. Has to deal with its own problems now.

And even if do it, besides Bernie's Unicorn magic of bullshit, he would just ruin America even more.


Second, just throwing money at poor countries does NOT work. Never has. Most often than not, those supeer poor countries also usually just steal any foreign aid anyways. By their corrupt leaders.

Any economist will tell you, just throwing money to Africa, will never help it.


He literally is a communist that tells his dumb college Neets, and niggers, and others, bullshit dreams. Not reality of our world.

Maybe 100 years ago Bernies brand of bullshit would have been possible in America. If even.

But not now. If there was no 20 trillion dollar debt maybe.

>>61162428
He's right to a point.

It's hard to buy a rich man.

>>61156804
America was founded on the fact that we must work for everything we have unlike those freeloading ethnic tribes in Europe who get free shit because of their ancestry.

thisiswhyAmericaisnumber1rightnow.jpg

>>61159917
>work for it
You mean pay 30 grand for it.
Whoever completed a degree in your cunt did work for it. They just pay for it later in life

>>61162082
unions are shit yes but the alternative is to have big business becoming ethical which is an even bigger pile of bullshit

if you lot cant have the scandinavian model of unions better have the classic than no unions, 19 century style

>>61161591
http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Aid-Working-Better-Africa/dp/0374532125

Even African niggers know that it’s a waste of money to throw aid into Africa.

Not only that, but it’s one of the reasons why the population of Africa is growing that much — while white population froze.

If we keep aiding Africa, sooner or later the entire world will be like Africa.

Please, muricans, don’t elect this dumb kike. For the future of the whole world, elect a Republican.

>>61162488
That doesn't mean it makes sense to set your house on fire so it can't be ignited by the incoming wildfire.

>>61162070
He could have lived as a spoiled shit head with his inheritance. But instead he works hard everyday to become more successful. He could have been like paris hilton and partied every day and snort coke.

>>61162428
You would need to pay Trump several billions for him to listen to you.

Also, Trump didn't make his money banking. He made it on real estate.

>>61162010
Holy shit that's the greatest example of cutting and taking things out of context I've ever seen. I'm not even mad, I'm actually impressed.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/11/16/3722465/sanders-90-percent-tax-rate-debate/

He has said time and time again that he would NOT raise it to 90%. For fuck's sake.

Trump is going to be president, guys.
It's time to accept it.

Donald Trump wants to lower taxes so he doesn't have to pay as muich

>>61159886
>cuck

get cucked bernfag

>>61162285
One of Trump's main talking points is that corporations are going to China with jobs and that he wants to get rid of the shit load of loopholes they abuse in the tax code. He's well aware they're a bunch of greedy assholes because he knew practically all of them.

>>61162351
The whole country of china backs my claim.

Get rid of unions and we'll be installing suicide nets on workplaces in no time.

>>61159886
It's especially bad since the cuck meme wasn't even invented by 4chan

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>>61156804
>(((Bernie Sanders)))
>mfw
>Literally electing a jew
OP go back to /reddit/

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>>61162638

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>>61162285

Trump has never said that.

He said they are a big problem. And yes they are. Obviously not the only problem.

And yes, ILLEGAL immigrants are a problem for any country. They are not immigrants. By their definition they are criminals.


And Trump talks almost weekly about corrupt corporations, about corporations leaving America, about the government being in bed with them etc. He talks the truth how the rich buy politicians. How corporations buy the government. He pretty much says that at all his rallies.

>>61162518
Most people who have student debt loans never have to pay them back. There's some kind of law which says you can be cleared of the loan if you're deemed not being able to ever be able to pay it back.

>>61161797
The American people have gained NOTHING from their involvement in the middle east you dumb fuck taco, only corporations have, the only thing they gained was a huge anti war and liberal backlash

go get another chink president

>>61162551
You could not have picked a worse analogy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_burn

>>61159780
Unions are nothing more than political money laundering schemes.

>>61162593

Yeah, just 89%.

I'll support it as long as he FUCKS THE FAT CATS IN WALL STYREET FUCK THE 1% WE ARE THE 99% DOWN WITH GREEEEEEEEEEEED

>>61162010
Yes I do. They earned that money themselves, and you are not entitled to is as a lazy fucking bitch. If you want to get money, you can work.

>>61156804
the only reason Bernie is surging against Hillary is because he is not Hillary. Even the dems don't want her. Hell they put Obama in front of her so why not Bernie.

>>61162660
>I didn't read the fucking article

Keep trying, you'll get there eventually.

>>61159886
I had a dream last night where I watched a movie called "The Cuckening" where it explained why Trump lost the election.

Idk maybe I need to take a break from this place

>>61162684
>Literally all started with m00t, former 4chan overlord, getting cucked by his girlfriend
>Didn't start on 4chan

>>61162641
>One of Trump's main talking points is that corporations are going to China with jobs
And what is he going to do about it without trashing the US living standard?
>and that he wants to get rid of the shit load of loopholes they abuse in the tax code
He should know, he's using them as well. Maybe different ones per line of business, but be aware that his will stay.
>>61162757
It's nice that your house is burning down controlled now. Your house is still burning down.

>>61162771
>above 50%
>MUH MONEY

>>61162807
It started in FYAD back in 2008, but then 4chan started using it in 2013 or whenever for some reason.

>>61156804
>pic
That's a non-sequitur

Making a fallacious argument should automatically disqualify you from running for president

>>61162684
It was actually. It was spawned by constant cuck spam threads. Remember Captain Canada and shit? Then it somehow turned into a meme, and jewt getting cucked helped.

>>61158471
I have paid my loans for seven years and still have $20k in debt from a state (public) school....and that was cheap, and I am an engineer.

I think finding a happy medium is probably a worthy goal?

>>61162790
>muh biased handpicked articools

>>61156804
Nope he actually is a shill for billionaires. He gets sponsored by large companies ffs do you think he gets sponsored for funzies?

He's like labour parties over here in Europe. They say they are for the lower and middle class but everytime they are in power quality of life for lower and middle class declines while large business gets more power lol. And in particular insurance, pharmaceutical and housing areas benefit tremendously. Of course the ones producing by getting really easy regulations thrown their way or population gets harsher regulations.

>>61162916
Cuck was only spammed because it used to be spammed on the FYAD forum of Something Awful back in 2008 or so

>>61162551

Tell me, what would you give a rich man to control him?

>>61162812
>And what is he going to do about it without trashing the US living standard?

We'll have jobs again

>>61162351
shilling this hard for the jew bank.

fuck off traitor.

>>61156804
Soon...

"If Germany, Denmark, Sweden and many more can take in millions of rapeugees...

WE SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME."

>>61162941
http://www.heritage.org/research/testimony/2015/how-unions-and-right-to-work-laws-affect-the-economy

Another source then. This author not only has testified in congress but holds a masters degree in labor economics

>me:2
>uneducated anon: 0

A literal admitted communist cultural marxist jew.

Please die, op.

>>61159863
In what possible context could that be made to look good?

>>61163002
>Tell me, what would you give a rich man to control him?
I'm not saying he needs to be controlled. I'm saying he is the problem, the one who would normally control. He's cutting out the middle man.
>We'll have jobs again
And they won't pay more than they do now, but everything that's now made in china will cost a lot more.
>>61163025
Didn't he already advocate taking in more refugees?

>>61156804
I think Bernie is the least meme politician you guys have. If he was going to enforce real border controls he would be the best candidate.

>>61163002

... You're not being serious right?

Trump intends on taking back MANUFACTURING jobs from China, millions upon millions of foxcon workers working probably for under 50 cents an hour

How he is going to make a smooth transition and give a bunch of people in the US manufacturing jobs or other low labour is simply impossible

>>61156804
He's a dumb idealistic jew who is furthering morals going down the drain

Where do you get all those trillions of dollars from?
>"The 1% of course!"
Even if they have a lot of money, it still won't be enough. Plus there's nothing stopping them from moving to another country. Canada is just above the states.
He just wants to make the US a commie shithole and tax everyone 90%

And do you know why it works in Germany or Sweden? Because they don't have 350 million people

>>61163118

bernie said he would stop all deportations lol

>>61162888
i dont see how its a non sequitur, we dont have the context of the full thing

Muslim rape is good. I hope the White Race dies.

>>61162070
Liberal losers just hate good families and upbringings, don't they? They seriously just want the world to burn out of their cucked misery.

>>61163069
>shill testimonies
>real examples of corporations treating unrepresented workers like slave worldwide

>working people: 1
>paid shills: 0

>>61161923
I think he way underestimated that.
HIgh Frequency Trading alone is >50%

>>61158270
Isn't all of that true for Sanders, too?

>>61163255
>failed to establish credibility

Learn to debate

Bernie Sanders is going to be the next President of the United States.

>>61156804

GIVE EVERYONE A BILLION DOLLARS! JUST IMAGINE THE ECONOMIC BOOM!

yeah, boom is exactly the sound it would make

>>61162099
Bernie is too stupid to lie about his beliefs like the Clintons, Obama, and every other Democratic canidate does, so his supporters have to do it for him.

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>>61159540
>literally

>>61162863
>Google "FYAD cuck"
>no results before 2014

>google "something awful cuck"
>One result from 2009 about a lolcow website of actual cuckolds

No mentions of cuck, the meme, as used today from back then.

Regardless, arguing over who started cuck is pure distilled autism. You can have it if you really want it.

>>61163433
I doubt he actually has beliefs. He has a stage persona, which is something differently entirely.

His followers, however, have beliefs. And they'll deny reality any day to accomodate them.

>>61163487
That's because FYAD is a hidden forum, so it doesn't show up on Google.. Also you're the one mad that 4chan didn't invent it lol. Kind of an autistic thing to get mad about, don't you think..?

>>61162784
They are even still considering pushing Biden to run.

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>>61162097

>>61163255
Let's hammer this in more

http://www.law.nyu.edu/news/ideas/cynthia-estlund-china-labor-law

China does have a labor union and also more over China's economy is heavily structured and controlled by The State, something Bernie wants. Herrmmm?

>>61163581
>The NO U defence

Classy.

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Reminder that Bernie even licked the asshole of the fake lying #blacliesmatter colllege bullshit.

>safe spaces for niggers in college

>>61162848
>literally advocating having over half of everything you earn being given to the government to do with as they please
Holy shit

>>61156804
>Reminder Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress who is not a shill for the billionaires.
Wrong, Trump's tax plan will actually raise taxes on the rich and close loopholes, however if the economy starts to boom like it should this will be offset.

It's incredible how cuckservatives in /pol/ get their information from memes. They actually believe that those pictures with a quote justapossed are true 10% of the times. It's sad. And the worst part is that then those retards excert huge influence in my country politics

>>61161712
>Most students who are in need of financial help are studying practical subjects, the creative arts and feminist history studiers are generally from upper-middle class families with daddies who're generous with their wallets

complete bullshit. the overwhelming majority of students of all backgrounds are doing easier subjects that will never benefit the country

the govt should only subsidise subjects that the country is in dire need of

>>61160061
>complains about over saturation
>make more stem tho

shit post of the day

>>61163433
He obviously panders to his public. I bet he is racist himself. He is a jew after all

>>61164195
This. The fact that this isn't on the platform for any Democrat candidate tells you all you need to know. It won't get them votes from idiots who paid 100k for a useless degree and want their debt forgiven, so they don't propose it. The Democrats are a populist party 100%, and will advocate literally anything that might win them an election, regardless of a policy's viability.

>>61163084
It's the Bible meme where every time slavery is supported or something modern "Christians" don't like it's obviously out of context, because why would God/Bernie claim something "obviously wrong" is right?

>>61164319
> over saturation

What do you mean? Should there be quotas for education?

And the problem of so many women studies and such is that american universities let enter a unlimited number of students in to those degrees. In my country we just limit the entrances to degrees.

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>>61156804
The Danish tax rates make me sick to my stomach

>>61164478
>The Democrats are a populist party 100%

The same as a republican, don't fool yourself.

> who paid 100k for a useless degree

Why do you allow this? To let a corporation (university) take advantage of impressionable young students? Why do american universities even offer this shit degrees?

>>61164780
You don't like it?

Well, i don't like codfish, yet i still eat it when my mother makes it for dinner.

>>61159863
The degenerate cuck is making an bigger government, which is the main issue of America's problems (Trump isn't gonna cut entitlements, which is bad but at least he isn't gonna expand the welfare state anymore.)

>>61164004
>literally advocating having over half of everything you earn being given to the government to do with as they please

Wrong.

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>>61164877

>The state is like a mother

Nailed it, Alberto.

>>61162013
>class war ahead

fucking lel

>>61164877
>Comparing the government to a parental figure
>leftypol

Actually it makes perfect sense. Get your life together you faggot.

I like Bernie. I think he is going to be a good president.

im not sayin bernie is bad but if everyone gets free college then college isn't going to mean shit to any employer. Most colleges these days are just daycares for rich kids that use nigger slave gladiators killing each other in a colosseum to make shit tons of money. The only thing a degree tells an employer is that you can stick with something at least four years.

Guarantee you the top 1% are still going to have colleges you aren't allowed in to.

>>61164822
>The same as a republican, don't fool yourself.
Not to the same extent.
>Why do you allow this? To let a corporation (university) take advantage of impressionable young students? Why do american universities even offer this shit degrees?
Because the government has already been subsidizing higher education up front in the form of student loans. The rate of inflation for a degree far exceeds that of the currency. Blaming the universities is disingenuous though. This problem begins with student loans and the results are predictable. When you're getting lump sums of money up-front a person is less likely to be risk-adverse and many people take out more than they even need and spend the money elsewhere. There's also mandatory online literature explaining how loans work and advising anyone taking one out on how to use them. People willfully ignore this and just check the boxes and sign. College is not for everyone, least of all those who are too ignorant to understand how a simple loan works. Government loans even have minimal interest rates, (0% for those below a certain income level), and yet people want to shirk their responsibility to pay them and try to use political mechanisms to get out pf it. I find it reprehensible, but a predictable outcome of bad policy driven by idealistic ideology, (ie. Everyone should go to college!!!).

>>61165252
>>61165182
No, since anon >>61164780 was talking about personal preferences, i did the same.


>Yes, i want the state to take care of me. I love it.

On the contrary of you guys, i still have a family that cares about me. If i didn't had them and had a distant family, i would be even more autistic then i am.

>>61164908
He is gonna create a single payer health system.


I don't get it cuckservatives. You want guns to protect yourselves from a "tyranical" government, yet want to keep governement to minimum, yet you guys praticaly cum when someone says we shlould keep our military strong.

> tfw literally going to study in the US and pay for the whole deal myself

Why don't Americans just do the same in Europe? Are they unaware of the fact that there is no tution for International students in Germany?
Why do they need to fuck over their homecountry?

>>61165451
>if everyone gets free college then college isn't going to mean shit to any employer.
Isn't that basically what's happening already?

I mean, how about switching the entry bar from "won't mind tens of thousands of dollars in debt" to "good enough to pass the entrance exam for his course"? That'd preserve some degree of degree "scarcity" and may actually enable upping difficulty (and with it the value of the degree) again.

>>61159810
Conservatives are the ones who don't understand. This board proves it. I come here sometimes just to correct you people because you're so hilariously uninformed

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>>61159863
It isn't good in context either.

>>61165573
>Not to the same extent.

Yes, the same. Everytime a candidate says "muh guns" and "muh take care of vets" it's the purest form of populism. Just pandering to different people.


>Blaming the universities is disingenuous though.

Completely wrong. Who do you think fought to institute student loans? Universities. It's perfect for them. They clear their hands and can raise the tuition.

>When you're getting lump sums of money up-front a person is less likely to be risk-adverse

I agree with you, that is why think giving a student of 18 a loan of over 50k is not very correct.

>College is not for everyone

Absolutely with you in this. That is why we should discriminate students on their grades, not the wallets of their parents

>>61165925
Compounding the problem will not solve it. As far as military spending, it's bloated. It should be slimmed down and made more efficient, but unlike subsidizing worthless degrees, defense is a necessary role of government.
>>61165965
You willfully ignore logical arguments and resort to pointless shitflinging, thus making it impossible to engage in rational discourse with you. You are a troll.

>>61165451
>college isn't going to mean shit to any employer.

because every retard can enter in college, as long as he as money, and because he pays, he must get the degree.

>>61166380
>rational discourse
Oh boy, a /pol/tard who can take it but not dish it out.

So when you guys are here in your echo chamber saying whatever you want about progressives, truth be damned, it's fine - But god forbid a progressive enter your echo chamber and say something back! oh lord no! We need to have "rational discourse" now.

Nigga please.

>>61164780
At least the Danish tax hell hole is better managed than the French tax hell hole. The population profits way more from their taxes than we do.

>>61166546
dish it out but not take it, I mean. oops

just woke up, forgive me

>>61166380
>Compounding the problem will not solve it.
Ignoring it won't solve it either, what's your suggestion? Limiting degrees to those whose parents can afford them?

Throwing money at private colleges obviously won't solve the problem either. But I'd suggest a similar approach as is taken with schools - private schools for those who can afford them, public but free schools for the rest. Only difference: Limited course spots, and entrance exams. If you have 100 slots for engineering, the best 100 get them.
>It should be slimmed down and made more efficient, but unlike subsidizing worthless degrees, defense is a necessary role of government.
Well, you can argue that ensuring the country continues to have an educated worker base is crucial for the future of the country as a whole. Governments need to think further than just the next scary superhitler the media's blowing out of proportion. The question is just the "how", and everyone's convinced they have found the one perfect way.

>>61158471
The mandatory transport ticket is actually set by the students, not by the University.
And you make it sound like there is any area at all, be it education (Grundschule übers Gymnasium bis zur Uni) infrastructure or the police that isn`t totally underfunded.

>>61156804
>promising free college
>promising free healthcare
none which he will achieve , his tax rate is retarded and the only reason he has a high support because of the same reason Trudeau had high support, DUDE WEED LMAO. There is nothing wrong with legalized weed but voting for someone for the sole reason of them legalizing weed is fucking dumb.

>>61166900
>Trudeau

I don't know much about him, but he seems to me a totally bro guy (just like cuckservatives say about Dubya). He has a face that inspires trust. Has weed been legalized already?

>>61162593

>thinkprogress

>>61156804
Whenever I see Bernie shills in real life I wonder if they can even say anything coherently out of their fucking mouths.

>>61158270
Reminder trump is losing iowa

>>61167332
I literally just picked the first hit off google. Pick your own source if you're sceptical.

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>>61162428

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2012-01-25/why-singapore-has-the-cleanest-government-money-can-buy-view

>>61166650
>>61166650

>>61166615
>Ignoring it won't solve it either, what's your suggestion? Limiting degrees to those whose parents can afford them?
Stop subsidizing higher education altogether except for programs that are for fields that are economically important and have a labor shortage. Assign government scholarships for these programs based on academic merit. Re-evaluate which programs get scholarships every five years by evaluating labor.trends. Subject universities to the law of supply and demand, and watch tuition rates drop. Less lucrative programs will have even lower tuition prices instead of all programs costing the same amount per semester.

>>61168227
>Stop subsidizing higher education altogether except for programs that are for fields that are economically important and have a labor shortage.
So, delay fixing a labor shortage until several years after it got bad enough that even politics will move?
Because that's will happen. And for the rest of the population: Only those with wealthy parents get higher education. You just killed a significant factor of social mobility.

>>61168501
>So, delay fixing a labor shortage until several years after it got bad enough that even politics will move?
No, this would be handled by the department of education on a regular basis. Not subject to political motives in congress.
>And for the rest of the population: Only those with wealthy parents get higher education. You just killed a significant factor of social mobility.
This is only the case if you believe that a degree is actually necessary for every field and ignore the link between subsidization of higher education. College is not expensive in and of itself, and tuition rates will fall if there is a motive to compete for the money.

>>61156804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQJtX6WsZ10

Reminder that all canidates this election round are fucking jokes.

Hillary
>wall st shill
Sanders
>cuck
Trump
>dumbass meme candidate
Cruz
>the least bad, but still unelectable
Jeb
>lmao

>>61156804
Reminder that Bernie wants you to get gang raped by niggers.

>>61159917
Americans arent given degrees on a silver platter, but our degrees in liberal arts are just as worthless as yours. 80% of my friends from highschool got degrees in liberal fields, and I already know a few of them who are now working odd jobs and in restaurants/bars. The rest will probably be teachers.

>>61164667
>In my country we just limit the entrances to degrees.

That is a smart decision from an economical standpoint. Any good leader would know that if their country is full of artists it will fail. But I guess the American mindset only cares about more money in it's pocket and not the success of the country.