Best way to remove guns from the USA? Post your ideas, foreign

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>>61145800

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>>61145800
traytoor

>>61145800

>USA citizens allowed to post but only if you're a strong supporter of gun control.

Comments like this are about as effective as gun control.

p.s. SHALL

Destroy/invalidate the constitution
Court stacking might be an option. I'm pretty sure that's still legal. Just gotta strong-arm the current justices into retirement

>>61145800
Here's a quick and easy idea, shill:

Why don't you apply some critical thinking and realize that slowly taking away legal guns isn't going to stop illegal ones from coming in?

Obama is working on disarming Americans. Hitler did it too. How the fuck are people not seeing this?

Best way to remove guns from the USA?

1. Don't
2. Seriously don't
3. ur a faget

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

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>>61146018

I think a Constitutional amendment that states anyone owning a gun (or even we could go after ammo in general) is fined a minimum of $1,000 or has to stay 30 days in jail.

Hit em' where it hurts. In the wallet or take away their freedom to live amongst other civilized people. I think it's one of the few ways we can truly make this gun problem go away.

>>61145800
COLD

>>61145800
funniest part is the gun nuts will be responsible for voting in the fascist government they will fight

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>>61145800
move the fuck to canada you unamerican faggot

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>>61146069

>>61145800
the constitution says otherwise

get out

Come and take them.

Fuck you op you subhuman.

>>61146097
think statistics matter?

anecdote.

Force kids to learn to use them in school. They will find out how spooky they are and not want to own one.

>>61146069
some people put their money in banks or investments or knowledge, others put it in their hallway in the form of steel and wood.

>>61146097
Move to literally any other civilized country then you dumb fucking twat

>dude you dont need guns lol just let the government do everything

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>>61146069
is this a hand

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>32% of Americans own guns
>26% of Canadians own guns
>America is a Wild West, while Canada is a gun-control paradise.

>>61146153
Right wing fascism is good though

Also
>fighting tanks and drones with handguns

Yeah, mhmm

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>>61146097

B8 / 10

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>>61145800

>Theoretical.
>Literally fucking history is filled with sadistic dictators and inhumane governments.
>Some even still exist to this day.

Fuckin' moron.

>>61146266
but thats backwards, kids love guns once they try them

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>>61145800

>>61146321
What the % of niggers in Canada vs US?

>>61145800
Unfortunately no one will ever be able to go on cable news and say point blank, "I'm scared of minorities. Nigger specifically. My guns are for protection from them, not Uncle Sam."

>>61146097
Banning guns sure helped decrease deaths in France, twice

>>61146321
we have more guns than people though

>>61145800
>Best way to remove guns from the USA?

You could try committing suicide, it might work.

>>61145800

Don't allow men to own guns. How many of the mass shooters lately have been women?

>>61146022
People don't see it because Americans are not Nazis - mostly. And Obama is hardly "de Fuhrer", is he?

>>61146435
THIS
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>>61145800
No OP fuck you for trying to create a hugbox.

My guns are my guns, come and take them, if you can.

>>61145800
"Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed""Shall not be infringed"

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>>61146437

What you see here ladies and gentlemen is the true form of the right wing in America: racists.

You do realize that whites commit MORE crime on average then blacks and latinos, correct? And that more whites are on welfare then both said groups as well?

Oh wait, that's right. You just listen to racists like Trump and think your'e "Making america great again"

You are deplorable.

>>61146069
Wow, you must be SO free! Not to mention one of the SAFEST people I've ever seen!

>>61146487
Because many rich white people like to collect guns (which is completely harmless hobby). USA is the richest country in the world, it blows money on food, guns, medicine, entertainment, everything, so this "per capita" stats are bullshit.

>>61146261
"White statistics matter"

>>61146616
how many of those deaths are due to suicide?

>>61146547
>look at flag
ahh

>>61146616
the more people there are, the less likely someone will be killed with a gun?

>>61146351
"...ensure brass is not bouncing off range partner..." Ha, ha, ha, ha!

>>61145800

It's your right to control other people. No one has the right to live in contempt of your supremacy.

"Theoretical fascist government."

>>61146616
>whites commit more crimes that the media will jerk off to
Fixed

stage a major shooting with wide media coverage but seal all of the actual evidenced details about the case and prosecute anyone questioning your version of the event as false

worked for australia, surprised the american government hasn't tried it yet

>>61146616
now show the total population of each of the states.

Maybe offer free meals at McDonald's or other burger shacks for people who turn in their guns?

Our constitution is not a Christmas list of things you would like from government.
The Chinese and Mexican constitutions are, which is why they're meaningless.
Our glory is the unique legal reasoning of English common law tradition. You cannot just make up whatever you want. It must fit ideas of limiting government and practicality. Fkr example, the basis of freedom of speech is not vague nonsense about liberty, it is the raw impossibility of policing thought and the overwhelming benefits of free discussion.

>>61146616

>Alaska
>Highest Death Rate

Get Out fuckface, most of those deaths are suicides and you know it you lying cocksuck

>>61146097
Didn't Kennedy still get shot?

>>61146616

Sorry OP but counting suicides as "gun deaths" is just underhanded bullshit.

The only people who are paranoid here are the anti-gunners.

The police will protect you just fine.

>>61146097
>guns make you immortal
holy shit how old are you?

Since when is "demanding public health policies" a right?

>liberals unironically want to ban guns
>liberals unironically want illegal immigrants in the country
>liberals unironically don't realize those same immigrants bring drugs and guns into the country
>liberals unironically don't realize gun laws don't stop anything

>>61146785
dollar menu vs 2000 dollar fire arm that can kill an animal and you can make your own food, get out shitskin.

Op is a commie shill. Do you get your shekels by the line or by the post?

>>61146618

Try to control your envy kiwi.

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Rage thread?

Here have this.

Things to keep in mind:
>The OP of the image post apparently is a teacher
>Works in another profession that prevents her from making campaign contributions to any candidate (even though she says she would love to donate to hillary)
>Is a rabid hillary supporter
>brings up how she's native american any and every chance she gets so she can get out of arguments about immigration

Mind you this whole argument happened at like 3am or something while I was on night shift at work.

>>61146894
im not reading that homie
I've seen enough of that shit on /k/ to last me a lifetime in hell of everlasting rage

there is no way to get rid of guns other than outlawing their possession by an imperial mandate, requiring the national guard to invade places like chiraq where the illegal gun trade thrives

see, if the government actually wanted to save lives, we'd be fighting the wars at home instead of abroad.

in any case, since that's out of the question, the only thing that would make politicians and conservatives reconsider is a series of attacks involving weapons. right now, most attacks are widely distributed, and hence are unpredictable.

the masses are incapable of seeing the obvious pattern because they have poor memory, and the worst attention span there could be: can't blame em, they're all on drugs or the bible, or some other such shit.

we simply have not had enough disasters take place to change people's minds. especially not disasters which affect the lives of politicians and conservatives directly. their empathy only kicks in after repeated direct experience. so, just wait a few more years: eventually there'll be many attacks, possibly several simultaneous ones...at that point they'll realize their guns can't protect them from asymmetric warfare, but it might be too late by that point.

it's all so tiring. why do you need toys? grow up.

>>61145800
>Faux "patriots" and 2nd amendment "activists" (read: ignoramuses) please, just lurk. Maybe you'll learn something

>Listen and believe!

Go bait somewhere else, Obama.

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>>61146616
>2 Mississippi
>3 Louisiana
>4 Alabama

What a coincidence

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>>61146769

You think New York or Massachusetts has LESS people than ALASKA?

How far will you shift the goal posts before we're not even playing football anymore?

Unbelievable.

>>61146865
i said meals dumbfuck. Of course you would get more than one menu.

>>61145800
>Faux "patriots" and 2nd amendment "activists" (read: ignoramuses) please, just lurk. Maybe you'll learn something.

>let's have a discussion but by the way anyone who disagrees with me is a crazy person

>>61145800

Fucking try, I'll be popping popcorn watching ATF agents get slaughtered left and right.

>>61146618

BELIEVE IT KIWI

>>61145800
Here's an idea. Just go door to door and take them. Us peaceful gun owners sure won't blow your brains out for trying to infringe on our God given rights :^)

>>61146097
All those guns around kennedy meant the attacker was forced to shoot at range and risk missing. I see your point, i'd much rather be shot point blank.

>>61145800
Never going to happen.

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>>61145800
Please OP allow me to remind you of my 1st ammendment right to inform you of how much if a faggot you are for attempting to further restrict 2nd ammendment rights and elevate the government's grip on total control that much further.
Faggot.
Also sage

>>61146097
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>61146978
I don't blame you
tl;dr she gets in an argument over waiting periods, and instead of defending her argument tries to end the conversation. when I tell her that means she lost the argument she claims I'm harassing her.

This is the same person to nitpicks everyone's comments about racism and sexism and then called someone another dude's "baby daddy" because they were on the same side of an argument. kek

she got all buthurt when people called her a homophone.

>>61146386
That's the joke.

If you actualy did want to put kids off guns you could try making a really shitty curriculum around things most people find boring like the mechanics and history. Make them associate guns with tedious busy-work rather than excitement and power. Don't think it'd work though.

>>61145800
OP, last time I checked the US has been a murder free zone since 1776. We still have murders though. Gun control won't stop murders.

>>61146618
I bet he can count on one hand how many times his house has been broken into or how many times a foreigner has attempted to "enrich" one of his family members

>>61147022
How many meal three a day? How long the rest of your life? For how many people millions? Where are they going to give out the food? How much money and people will that take? Why do this when homeless and poor can be given this privilege other than middle class people that like guns.

>>61147173
guys love that shit though
how a gun works is fucking cool

>>61147152
I argued with a former teacher about stuff like that
it basically boiled down to me saying it wouldnt do anything and that everything she was complaining about was already illegal
then she said we atleast have to try and that more laws will stop gang violence

shit was insane

>>61146998
post the numbers anyways ass face.

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>>61147179

>Gun control won't stop murders

Even if it prevented just ONE murder, wouldn't you say that's a good thing?

If not- why are you so heartless?

If you agree- why haven't we already done it?

It's the 21st century, kiddo, time to grow up and live in a civilized country. We aren't in buttfuck Rome anymore. We don't handle problems with javelins and swords. Go to the Middle East if you want that sort of government, but. no. I won't stand for it here in the USA.

>>61145800
You're statistically unlikely to get shot in a random event. However, your chances of getting shot skyrocket when you're a criminal. Are you a criminal OP?

>>61145800

Here's an idea. Ban liberals from owning guns. America's "gun" problem is almost all Democrat voters anyway. I mean, it's all Obama's fine upstanding sons who didn't do nothin that are shooting each other right?

So let the White Republican men keep our guns, and take away the rights of the Democrat voting niggers instead. Problem fucking solved.

>>61146998
the only disservice the nra has done is by compromizing on gun control and allowing so much of it to pass

>>61147287
>Even if it prevented just ONE murder, wouldn't you say that's a good thing?
Nope, fuck you.

This is a pvp server, don't like it?

Skidaddle, pussy.

>>61147287

Read more guns, less crime by John Lott. Civilian gun ownership actually lowers crime rates.

>>61147287
>It's the 21st century, kiddo, time to grow up and live in a civilized country.
t. John Oliver

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>Le current year
>le still thinking guns are a problem, when 90% of gun deaths are niggers killing each other in the ghetto

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>>61147287
Learn this quote. This is why you want to ban guns, while I do not.

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>>61146153
tree of liberty, blah blah, refreshed, blah.

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>>61147287
>If not- why are you so heartless?

>The current year
>basing your ideas on emotion and not logic

>>61147287
>Even if it prevented just ONE murder, wouldn't you say that's a good thing?

Guns are used far more often to prevent murder than commit murder, so no. Any murder stopped by banning a gun would be offset by the many more not prevented due to a lack of guns.

>>61147287
but it doesn't prevent any murders
california and nevada have almost identical gun homicide rates yet nevada has some of the least restrictive gun control in the nation while california has some of the most restrictive

>>61147287
eating makes people die more than guns. And cost tax payers more money.

>>61145800

Best way to remove gun is crashing the Sun into the Earth

>>61145800
>rights to demand
yeah thats called freedom of speech

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>>61145800
>Best way to do the impossible?
Take enough LSD until you literally believe gun cease to exist

There is a current Assault Weapons Ban legislation that is waiting to see the Senate.

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>>61147287

I'd rather have six million people be shot a year then let the government even think about taking away muh guns

>why are you so heartless

HAVING A HEART IS FOR LIBERALS AND QUEERS

>>61147495
Roll

>>61147496
>implying that piece of shit will ever get close to passing

there is a reason the AWB was allowed to expire

>>61145800
>right to demand appropriate and reasonable public health policies to stop gun violence
What amendment is that one?

>>61145800
My idea: kill yourself, ungrateful commie.
I wish we had the right to bear arms here... You were born in a free country and all you do is complain. Fuck off.
>>61146097
So, in other words, you hate America? I'm sure there's some room left for you in Britbonfistan, you absolute cuck.

>>61147496

That garbage will go nowhere, thank god.

>>61147556

The First protects his right to be a whiny bitch.

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>>61146616
Nunchucks are illegal in Mass. NNA (National Nunchuck Association) when.

>>61147495
rolling.

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>>61147556

How about the 8th amendment?

You know, the right against cruel and unusual punishment?

I'd say, and many would agree with me, that living in a society with so much gun violence and so many people who are flat out stupid being allowed to own guns is a crime in and of itself...and a very cruel one, at that.

>>61147287
>W-w-w-why so heartless?
There's a word for your type. It's called bleeding heart liberal. It is meant as an insult.

>>61147556
/EndThread/

>>61147743
>cruel and unusual punishment?
removing the 2nd and fucking over law abiding citizens.

>>61146386
>>61146266
Teaching them about guns would be a pretty good idea actually, or at least in my opinion.
Basic gun safety, usage, take them to the range, etc. Teach them pretty much anything that's useful and interesting and it may also keep gun violence down effectively
I think the Swiss do this and their gun crimes are ridiculously low. Might nit be correlated however, I dunno

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>>61147287
Well, if it stopped at least one murder, that'd be great. Problem is, it wouldn't stop ANY murders.

Do you think criminals see all these gun laws and say, "Oh, maybe I should just not kill someone if it's so hard to legally own a firearm. Oh, darn. How I have been foiled." No. They go down to the fucking alley and buy one from Jamal or Juan illegally.

You have to be an eight year old to actually think it's so simple that making something illegal means it will never occur again.

>>61147240
I was not actually being serious m80. If I were allowed to have guns I would definitely get some but Im not even allowed to own a fucking tazer for self defense here. The real problem in America is niggers and that some redneck idiots are stupid enough to keep their loaded guns on their kitchen tables for their children to shoot themselves with. But who cares about them. Keep your guns and enjoy them. Must admit Im kinda jelous

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>>61145800

We do this thread every day.

My dick gets so hard based on the number of times this thread is created every day. Can't mother fucking wait for the next one. Omg I'm about to fucking nut on myself just thinking about the thing same shit everyone is going to say about sjw pussy faggot bitches crying because they can't handle guns, ohhhhhh shit I'm fucking jacking it right now, ohhhhhh ya I just fucking nutted all over my face.

>>61147743
8th amendment pertains to the government, not citizens.
>prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishment.
If you think that applies here you are beyond retarded and should kill yourself. Don't use a scary gun though. They're scary.

>>61146616
>gun death rates
>suicides included in stats
End yourself, you fucking moron.

>>61146002
based

>>61147287
>We aren't in buttfuck Rome anymore
what makes you think we are any different than people in roman times? we are entertained by violence constantly. On the news has only reports of death and misery, Youtube millions and millions of videos of people being hurt and mocked for it. Our Nature tells us kill or be killed, hunt or be hunted, prey on the weak, prey on the weak or fight for them. We use the tools of our time. Whether for destruction or protection, the INTENT of your character decides if something is wrong or not.
You won't think you need them, untill you realize you need them.

>>61147743
>You know, the right against cruel and unusual punishment?

Then why do we have to put up with you cucky SJWs? Your existence is literally painful.

>>61147901
they do that shit all the time m8 its fucking annoying

>muh 30k gun deaths

They always leave out the fact like 20k of those are suicides

>>61147287
Nice bait.

And no, preventing one murder wouldn't even be worth the administration cost of passing legislation, never mind the practical effects of disarming the law abiding and ideological objections.

Preventing murders is good, but it's not free.

>>61145800
Look at me posting without meeting your imaginary criteria.

Ignorant traitor tool BTFO

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We do this thread every day.

My dick gets so hard based on the number of times this thread is created every day. Can't mother fucking wait for the next one. Omg I'm about to fucking nut on myself just thinking about the thing same shit everyone is going to say about sjw pussy faggot bitches crying because they can't handle guns, ohhhhhh shit I'm fucking jacking it right now, ohhhhhh ya I just fucking nutted all over my face.

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>>61147842

>Do you think pedophiles see all these laws against child rape and say "Oh, maybe I shouldn't rape children" How I have been foiled. No. They go down to the fucking alley and rape children.

The amount of retardation in what you just posted is scary. You are seriously implying that laws don't do anything to deter criminals.

So I should ask you

Why even have laws in the first place?

>this is how pro-gun folks actually think

Scary if it weren't so drastically pathetic.

>>61147743
you're free to move to faggotstan, faggot.

>>61148031
what firing mechanism is that?
I know its basically gas pushing the rod which pushes everything else back but I know it has a specific name also

>>61145800

http://fortune.com/2015/10/08/gun-sales-record-high/

You should probably just emigrate at this point.

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>>61147743
Revoking more of our constitutional rights won't magic away the bad guys. It just makes those rights impossible to get back, like our privacy from the government.

>>61145800
You don't have those rights lad. 0/10 get off my land before I shoot you and rape your wife until she loves me.

>>61148080
Piston.

>>61145800
>wanting only the government to have guns
I think it's high time we start a "Democrats for Democide movement."

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>>61145800
>Best way to remove guns from the USA?

Enlist squads of liberal gun control faggots to go door to door and confiscate them. Convince them they have superior numbers and the gun-owners don't want to die or go to prison so they're readily giving them up.

This can only end well.

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>I'm afraid to handle weapons myself because murder crosses my mind

>>61148080
"Gas Operated Piston"

>>61148064
If you think deterrence is the only purpose of law, you're sadly mistaken. The threat of punishment alone does not deter those who are seriously considering performing a crime.

The difference is between punishing a crime that is an actual thing that is regarded as bad [such as murder, and theft] and punishing a thing that is considered bad only because it is one step removed.

In short, his argument is that anyone willing to murder would violate the gun ban, and anyone who wouldn't be willing to violate a gun ban wouldn't be the type of person to murder.

Its like going after people who won't even jaywalk and trying to prevent them from raping people. Its like I think they know not to do that.

>>61147743
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>flat out stupid

like you?

I think that anyone who wants to disarm his neighbor is inflicting "cruel and unusual punishment" on them and therefore it is unconstitutional. See how easy that is?

>>61148064

You have laws to remove the scum who victimize the innocent from society.

Of course, you and your mentally ill brethren see people with the ability to defend themselves from the scum as undesirable. So you'd like to remove them from society. It cuts into your voting demographic.

>>61148159

Ricotta is one based red pilled nigga.

>>61148167
>Make Glock Great Again backplate
autism

>>61146266
A lot of schools in America did a long time ago.

Proper arm handling was vital and still is. You need to be worried about how YOU are going to protect YOURSELF.

An armed populace always generates peace and even negotiation between people and government. Governments are less likely to act outlandishly towards citizens and same goes for citizen to citizen.

If everyone is packing, no one will want to be the bad guy.

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>>61148155

>This can only end well.

This is actually true.

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>>61146329

>>61145800
>Best way to remove guns from the USA?

How to Create a Gun-Free America in 5 Easy Steps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4

kill me first

Things you should regulate before guns if all you care about is maximising human life:
>Smoking
>fast food
>hygiene
>carcinogens
>sex
>IV drug use
>cars

>>61148064
You do realize that gun violence and mass shootings are outlawed as well, right?
How does that work out for you?
Look, if you want to live in a gun free zone, you're free to leave. Go to Paris maybe. I heard it's pretty gun-free :^)

>>61146998
spoken like a true nazi. we need to start a white house petition to have any medals he earned revoked.

>>61145800
>remove guns from the USA

I think you lost that opportunity once it passed the 400 million mark

>>61147287
>Even if it prevented just ONE murder
That's the thing, it doesn't actually prevent any murder. If someone wants to kill someone else, they'll do it regardless of what's available. Don't have a gun? They'll use a knife to stab them. Don't have a knife? Their use their hands to strangle them. No would-be murderer is ever going to think "Gee, the most convient method of acting this out is unavailable, I guess all of my hatred and violent impulses are just going to disapear now."

Same thing with suicides. Guns are not just magically floating around and killing people. The issue is modern society enabling crime and fetishizing it. Get rid of violent people and you will get rid of violence. It's not that complicated.

>>61148238
And you call yourself a "Liberal"

>>61148340
>sex
Fuck that, abstinence only education in the US is absolute perfection.

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>>61146616
Good. As long as you're crying, we're winning.

>>61148437
I call myself me, shitlord

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>>61148064
>You are seriously implying that laws don't do anything to deter criminals.

Yes, because simply telling someone not do something will mean they won't.

Laws don't deter anything, it's the enforcement of the law that does; the punishment that one receives when they break a law.

So, no, if you just tell them to not do something, but won't do anything if they do it anyway, they're going to do it.

Maybe in your kindergarten class you don't do something just because your teacher tells you not to; not because you'll be put in time-out. That's not how it works in real life.

>>61146321
>gun control paradise

All we do is require a class, pass the exam (easy as pie), send it in to the RCMP for approval and poof.. you have your license to buy and own guns.
It's not really gun control.


I could go buy a gun illegally easily.

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>>61148565
2/2

>>61146038
this tbqh fám

>>61146435
Mmmmm maybe 1/4 of your percentage..

So if the USA is at ~10%, we're at ~2.5%

>>61147743
>banned in america
>Little red riding hood
>In small text banned from schools
Holy shit this could not be a dumber picture. I need source on the small text though.

>>61145800
Fuck off.

>>61148625
I live in BC; never seen a nigger IRL.

>>61148626
neither is banned

>>61145800

OP you'll never change ignorant fascists minds.

If they went to college and got an education they'd realize that reality has a well known liberal bias. Leave them to their guns. Maybe they'll change their minds if someone close to them suffers a gun death.

>>61146022

Gun ownership is a constitutionally protected right in the US.

> There is no such thing as an 'illegal' gun.

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>>61146329
Yes because a fucking drone strikes in new York will go well with the public

>>61148726
Figured that, i just wanted to see a source so i could laugh harder.

>>61148755
>I don't have any guns
>I don't think anyone else should have guns

SJW
>I dont play video games because of sexism
>No one else should be allowed to play video games.


Make like a tree and FUCK OFF.

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>OP has resorted to samefagging

Ok /pol/ make your choice and defend it

Geomancy master race here

>>61146616
>people are more likely to die to a specific item if it is present

>>61148829
>sucession
Honestly what the fuck. How hard is it to spell a word properly. The worst part is, not one of the crew members noticed.

>>61146860

>GUN LAWS WILL STOP GUN CRIME
>Dude WEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.

Liberal logic at its finest.

>>61146097
You're right, Obama shouldn't have guns anywhere around him.

They never save or help anyone.

Ok Liberals

> HIGH RAPE
> HIGH GUN CRIME

PICK ONE

>>61148722
There is a town named "Breton" in Alberta, it's was founded as a Black Town full of escaped slaves from the USA..

Think there is maybe 6 still in the area, with thousands of whites.

Grandpa says the KKK came up here in the 40s and chased most of them out of the area, they headed east..

>>61148938
>OMG YOU CAN'T JUST STOP ILLEGALS FROM COMING HERE THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO
>WE WANT $15 AN HOUR FOR WORK THAT EMPLOYERS CAN PAY ILLEGALS $5 AN HOUR FOR

yeah its all over and its fucking irritating

>>61148866
Holy because GOD WILLS IT

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>>61148755
Nigger this board has IDs we see you samefagging

>Makes shitty gun control thread on /pol/
>Gets BTFO'd on all fronts
>Tries to save shattered ego by samefagging
>Doesn't know the board has IDs

Just stop trying, you're embarrassing yourself

>>61146435
too many

>>61146097

That would literally cause a Civil War and a surge in violence not seen in this country since the last Civil War.

>>61146616
This part of the bait is really weak

>>61148816
I suppose I meant guns used for crime.

>>61148866
Eh, hemoancy.

>>61146616
what in the actual fuck is wrong with you people

i was a massive proguns advocate for years befote I became a racist, because I'm not a total limp wristed helpless retard

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>>61145800

We would rather kill all the liberals in the name of the American Fascist Roman Empire than allow liberals to cuck us further.

We will not become brown skinned subhumans like the rest of the world.

We will remain unique.

We will remain exceptional.

We will remain American.

The enemy will burn.

>In A Storm of Fire.

>>61148457

>can't get laid
>dat 'abstinence only education'
>2016
>profit

>>61148419

Not necessarily. I think not owning a gun has prevented me from killing some cunts over the years.

Guns make murder quick and convenient, it can be done at a distance with little to no physical effort.

I could easily kill someone with a gun, but it would be a struggle for me to overpower some of those fuckers with my bare hands, and even to inflict fatal wounds with a knife.

>>61147743

I hate that fucking image because it suggests that banning "Little Red Riding Hood" is the right thing to do. If you don't believe that "Little Red Riding Hood" should be banned, then the poster doesn't work.

>>61147287
>civilized country meme

>>61146002

NOT

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>>61145800

If you try to take away gun owners' possessions you are a thief.

Do you know what happens to thieves when they try to take things from people with guns?

I'll give you a hint: It usually involves a bloody hole in your chest.

God you liberals are just retarded. You really have no sense of priorities at all. You say you want "appropriate and reasonable public health policies to stop gun violence" but then you want to do the one thing that'd drive gun violence through the roof on a national scale:

Try to take guns away from people who will shoot you.

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>>61145800
Gun Control creates a populace of disarmed serfs who cannot resist Jewish bolshevik tyranny. The Bolshevik Communists aka Khazar Jews want your guns Americans and they will do everything to achieve this goal. Once they have your guns you will end up in Gulags aka FEMA camps. Jews have a history of massacring Whites. Ask the Ukrainians about the Holodomor. Ask Russians about the Gulag Archipelago. Just ask the Greeks, Hanukkah is a celebration of a massive Jewish massacre against them. Purim is another celebration of a Jewish massacre against the Persians. It's sick to think a group of people celebrate the deaths of others the way Christians celebrate Christmas. Jews killed untold numbers of Germans during and after WWII.

As Kevin MacDonald writes the likely outcome: our land will be confiscated, we will be marginalized, after that, we will be deemed "surplus population" and wiped out.

>>61146616
There are infinity times more shark bite deaths in Australia than in Poland. Noticing a trend?

>>61149412

>SOMETHING MUST BE DONE
>This is something
>Therefore we must do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trw1PbQt_Yo

>>61145800
There is no "best way". There is no "way", period.
At least, not when it comes to removing guns. The sheer logistical impossibility would become immediately obvious as one began to consider the number of officers necessary in this theoretical gun-seizing institution; you would need personnel to confront gun owners, guards to protect each one from inevitable confrontation, other personnel to transport them, others still to guard consolidation points, others to properly dispose of arms...
All while testing the boundaries of the 4th and 14th Amendments with each seizure. Plus the 10th Amendment, because a whole bunch of states would act as holdouts.
And even then, it would be futile; dudes would just bury their guns in the woods if blanket warrants were served nationwide.

>>61149454

BE

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"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the 'Russian Revolution.' It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators."

~~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008), Nobel-Prize winning novelist, historian and critic of communist totalitaranism. Read his books "The Gulag Archipelago II", “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” and "200 Years Together"

THE SECRET HOLOCAUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCan8CDuDMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVDFf3CNF8

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>>61145800
Try taking our guns we will give you one bullet at a time, come try it mother fucker.

>>61148866
>>OP has resorted to samefagging
>Ok /pol/ make your choice and defend it
>Geomancy master race here

HOLY HELL!!! DOUBLE DUBS!!!

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>>61149486
Feels bad bro.

>>61149370
thats cause you are a fucking faggot though
people who have ccws (concealed carry permits) commit crime at a lower rate than the normal population
thats especially true for shooting people for no reason

plus most people aren't so fucked that they get angry and shoot others
that is some 3rd grade level thinking

>>61147287
>It's the 21st century, kiddo

Unironically using the CURRENT YEAR meme in the CURRENT YEAR. C'mon!

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>>61145800
I suggest you start by volunteering to confiscate.

F A G G O T O U S M A X I M U S

>>61149618

INFRINGED

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Reminder that mass shootings are not evidence of increased gun crime and gun crime has halved over the last 30 years. The media loves to parade "gun deaths" around but what they don't tell you is that the statistics they're giving you include suicides.

By the way, suicides constitute more than 50% of all gun deaths annually. In recent years it's been 60% or more. Liberals live in a fantasy land and regurgitate numbers without any contextual information. They do all this while pretending they are intellectually superior to everyone else despite the fact they are lying by omission.

>>61149730
>tfw tommy gun is banned by name in the US

>i have the right to violate your rights

fucking liberals.

>>61146002
Amendments have been repealed in the past. The second will be no different. 80% of the US population lives in urban areas. If their were a ballot measure, I'm sure the vast majority of the population would vote to overturn that outdated, irresponsible, useless amendment. According to Pew research, The overwhelming majority of Americans already want much stricter gun control. A complete repeal isn't that much of a stretch.

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>>61149650
>More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history.

When was this written?

>>61149618
KINGZ

>>61149763
When that right threatens your safety and wellbeing, yeah actually.

>>61149739
It depends on who you're referring to.

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>>61145800

You're trying too hard, faggot.

>>61149819
but it doesn't.

>>61149775
you want to provide a source for that because most research shows the opposite

>>61149819

> Right to safety and wellbeing.

That's not a right.

>>61145800

How about you just remove yourself to Germany and get raped by the "refugees"

>>61149775
>According to Pew research

Hey faggot check this out >>61149741

Take your delusions about how 80% of America thinks like you and shove 'em right up your ass. You're just a big bundle of delusion. Even if that were the case, which it wouldn't be because nothing in this country is decided via polling the general population, people with guns would shoot you if you tried to take their guns. Gun violence would skyrocket overnight and your police force would shrink rapidly from deaths and resignations.

At the end of the day all your faggoty little ideology will create is more dead Americans.

>>61149819
You are more likely to get killed by a car than a gun. Car ban when?

>>61149702

Guns make it incredibly easy to kill people that you otherwise wouldn't kill.

Preventing those people from having guns would reduce murders.

>>61149974
>Guns make it incredibly easy to kill people that you otherwise wouldn't kill.

Because nobody killed anybody else before guns were invented, right? If someone's got enough motivation to kill someone else then having to do it with a knife instead of a gun isn't going to change their mind.

>>61148457
Well the point is more people die from HIV/AIDS then guns and in that respect abstinence only education is a complete failure.

Guns are a red herring. People have already made 3d printed guns. People talking about gun control are really saying 'we want to temporarily fix the symptom while continuing to ignore the problem!'

>>61149974
and what im saying is you are fucking retarded
you aren't wrong
but you are retarded

most people if not all people that go outside with firearms have self control and aren't going to light someone up because they got called a fag

most gun homicides in the US are done by gangs, its anywhere from 60-90% of all 9k gun homicides, who would kill each other with fucking baseball bats and knives if they didn't have illegal guns

>>61146097
(You)

>>61147495
*holds up spork*

XDDDDDd

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>>61149775

You're attaching your own retarded assertions to someone else's statistics and trying to make them say something they don't. Let me help you out "overwhelming majority" and "much stricter" is in no way supported by the actual statistics.

But really, there's no sense in even trying to argue with you. The proof is in the pudding; if taking our guns is so easy, and everyone wants to do it, then come do it already.

What's that? You're a huge beta faggot who can't actually impose your will on reality? Yeah, we know.

Go play with yourself.

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Hey guys, you know all those cultural problems we have?

You know like young men not being able to find a place in society?

Or like how poverty stricken neighborhoods have to rely on crime and violence?

I have a great idea!

Let's blame those things on inanimate objects!

>>61148159

What the fuck is this nonsense?
>the courts have consistently determined that the 2nd amendment does not ensure each individual the right to bear arms, instead the amendment provides the right for the stats to arm a militia such as the national guard

This is literally wrong. The supreme court has ultimately ruled that it DOES belong to individuals but the right is not unlimited.

>>61145800
Just ship out all the niggers

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>>61149751
Your point being?

>>61150358
feels bad

>>61150259
another graph I saw showed black on black crime of 50 per 1mil
white on white was 10 per 1mil

either way its insane

>>61147287

Dumb faggot. Banning alcohol would prevent plenty of deaths. Are we going to do that? No.

Is liberal the opposite of authoritarian?
Then why do "liberals" use hierarchy and authority that works through coercion and violence to dictate how other people live their lives and what they can own? Isn't that what an authoritarian would do?

>>61145800
If you hate guns in the USA, just move to mexico. I heard they have very tight gun laws there

>>61145800
HEY YOU.
With the fake entitlement.

You might just be begging the guys with the guns to come bail you out at some point, governments go crazy faster than you think.

t. a citizen of the significantly less free world

>>61148457
>Fuck that, abstinence only education in the US is absolute perfection.
>>61148457

No, it's fucking up people completely.

I lost my virginity at age 20 and when I went to put the condom on, I realized I didn't know how.

I stood there like a retard and tried to unravel it and then put it on. How fucking pathetic is our sex ed? (and my dad for that matter)

How it should be
>you shouldn't have sex at random
>you should wait but hey if you don't be safe with a barrier method to avoid disease and pregnant

How it is:
>YOU WILL GET AIDS
>HERE IS A DICK PICK WITH WARTS AND THE DICK IS FALLING OFF
>LOL WHAT'S A CONDOM GUYS LAL LA LA LA L I CAN'T HEAR YOU
>AIDS

It's fucking retarded.

>>61150044

Actually they would. I would. A gun can be used at a distance with little or no physical effort. People can't fight back. You can shoot someone without having to think first.

Guns make killing impersonal, and add a level of distance and convenience that you just don't get with a knife.

>>61150082

Still. 'Illegal' guns in the hands of gangs are usually stolen guns. Removing them from the general population would in time decrease the level of guns in gangs.

OP talked about removing guns from the USA. It wouldn't eliminate gang homicides, but it would dramatically reduce them.

A lot of that gang bravado and sense of power comes from knowing they have a gun. Most of the skinny little gang fagots wouldn't do shit if they didn't have a gun.

BTW, I don't think the US should ever ban guns. But it's also stupid to deny the fact that guns make it much, much easier to kill people and they give people a sense of power that they otherwise wouldn't have.

That's why people buy them for 'self defense'.

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>>61149863

You're wrong

Brand new news report:

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Half of all Americans support President Barack Obama's executive actions on gun control, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found on Tuesday, with a majority saying they would support the next president taking additional steps to tighten federal gun laws."

http://aol.com/article/2016/01/13/majority-of-americans-support-next-president-pushing-tighter-gun-laws/21296546/


And another:

"In a new Gallup survey of 1,000 US adults, 62 percent of respondents said they're not satisfied with the nation's gun laws or policies, up 11 percentage points from 2015 and 5 points from 2001.

About 61 percent of people dissatisfied with gun laws said they want the laws to be stricter, while 24 percent of those dissatisfied with gun laws said they want the laws to be less strict, according to the survey."

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/15/10775842/gun-violence-public-opinion

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>>61146753
what is sandy hook ?

>>61146616
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

checkmate anon
the only trend i see is a bunch of anti-gun shills invading /pol/
in itself, thats 'nothing but a thing'
the part i am concerned about is you actually believe you are right

>jewbook.com/libtards.unite.today

>>61147743
>I'd say, and many would agree with me, that living in a society with so much NIGRA violence and so many people who are flat out stupid being allowed to CONTINUE USING guns TO COMMIT CRIME is a crime in and of itself...and a very cruel one, at that
FTFY

>>61148064
>The amount of retardation in what you just posted is scary. You are seriously implying that laws don't do anything to deter criminals.
well anon can you explain why criminals continue to commit crimes ?
>a lock only keeps an honest man out
>>61148755
>OP you'll never change ignorant fascists minds.
so if i am pro gun i am a fascist ?
DOUBT
>If they went to college and got an education they'd realize that reality has a well known liberal bias.
the irony - confirmed for living in a little marxist university bubble
>Leave them to their guns.
we wish you would, but NOOOO - I WILL GO TO /pol/ AND SHOW THEM I AM RIGHT
>Maybe they'll change their minds if someone close to them suffers a gun death.
mebe you will change ur mind the first time you are a victim of some crime

go eat a toad anon

>>61150334

It's because liberals literally can not understand English.

>A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Let's break this down:

>A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state

This is a standalone statement. It's gives contextual meaning to the following statement:

>the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Militias are formed from people. Therefore, in order to -have- a well regulated militia under any circumstance the people must have the right to bear arms.

They have a fundamental inability to understand the language they speak. It's probably got something to do with how our education system is a steaming pile of shit and how nobody can get their nose out of their fucking phones. Whatever the case, this entire thing was only ever meant to end in blood.

In fact, that was the entire purpose of this Amendment. So if anybody ever did try to take away individual liberties established as basic human rights for obvious and logical reasons then there would be an armed rebellion.

>>61148755

>samefagging on a board with visible IDs

Oh my god, kill yourself. Just take all your pills at once.

>>61150489

He's trolling. You can see him samefagging in the thread talking to himself, not realizing we can see his ID.

>>61150523

>aol.com
>vox.com

You might as well be linking to the Huffington Post faggot. You want me to start posting links to the Drudge Report or PrisonPlanet?

>>61150476
yeah they are usually called progressives or the regressive left now

they definitely aren't liberal

its also where the whole two sides of the same coin meme comes from

>>61150515
illegal guns are not usually stolen
they are bought illegally or smuggled into the country
also removing them from the general population would do more harm than good. people use guns for self defence more than they do for harm

>>61150523
>aol surveyed people and got random shit answers
>gallup survey of 1000 US adults in a country of 320 million citizens
>these are indicitive of the whole

I hope you are just trolling and not actually this retarded
what happened to those pew polls you were talking about fag

OP realized he was shamefur dispray and committed sudoku.

/thread

>>61146097
you apparently dont understand the purpose of the Constitution. it limits federal power over the states and citizens. it is not a rule book per se

>>61149858
Tell that to the parents of the newtown first graders

>>61149893
Correct, but you do have the right to do everything in your power to secure it. I'm doing everything I can to ensure guns are off the streets, and the majority of people agree with me.

>>61149948
You're being reactionary and delusional. Stop with the unrealistic slippery slope arguments and take your medication. Look at what happened in Australia and the UK. They restricted firearms to a reasonable degree and gun violence plummeted.
(http:/nytimes.com/2015/12/05/world/australia/australia-gun-ban-shooting.html )

The same thing would happen here.

>>61150523

#1 online fucking polls do not represent our nation

#2 that graph is retarded, because all it says is unsatisfied or satisfied.

Satisfied or unsatisfied with the laws in what fucking sense?

I'm fucking unsatisfied with the laws because I think they are too strict.

This is the exact same kind of bullshit people pulled when polling about the affordable care act.

They suggested that something around 70% were in favor of the ACA because they "didn't like the system before it."

When the amount of people that actually supported the ACA was around 20% since the other additive 50% of that 70% didn't like the old system but fucking hated the ACA.

You're a faggot and I fucking hate that there are retarded faggots out there that just look at stats with no proper interpretation, so they just see what they fucking want to see.

Fucking kill yourself you fucking abortion.

>>61146329
>fighting tanks and drones with handguns
more like
>fighting the families of tank drivers and drone pilots with handguns

>>61148829
This has to be fake

no way Jew York was on a succession list

>>61150830
>Look at what happened in Australia and the UK
you mean the countries where they banned most semi-autos and even other types of firearms and suddenly crime and homicides went up?
are you saying I get the pleasure of getting stabbed instead of shot?
oh boy how fun

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>>61150830

>They restricted firearms to a reasonable degree and gun violence plummeted.

Hahahahahaahhaa

You're a real dipshit aren't you?

>>61146533
is that your people's solution to every problem?

>>61150234
You should read more instead of hurling tired insults at anonymous strangers on the Internet when you've been proven wrong with objective data : ^ )

Here's some more:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/186236/americans-desire-stricter-gun-laws-sharply.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

That's the thing about objective facts, they are right no matter who speaks them. Facts will always beat feelings anon. So stop being so emotional about things, it makes you sound like a middle aged woman.

>>61150602
Huh. Okay, I had actually not paid much attention to that; guess I just needed it off my chest regardless. Thanks for the heads-up though!

>>61147743
the 8th amendment protects against cruel and unusual punishment FROM THE GOVERNMENT

>>61150873

Wouldn't even come to that. The pilots of those drones and tanks are mostly gun-owning, government-weary patriots themselves. Corrupt liberals are in control at the political level but nearly all of the actual trigger pullers are people who genuinely believe in the country's greatness. If politicians tried to sick the military on their own people, the military would overthrow them and become a junta before they would actually carry out such orders. Now if they're targeting a small militia or something like that, that's different. But we have a thing called posse comitatus that dictates that the military cannot enforce laws on U.S. soil (outside of military installations) unless an area is under martial law, and once it's under martial law, the military has full jurisdiction.

What I'm trying to tell you is the military (at least today's military) would never be the instrument of oppression against it's own people. Maybe in 30 years that changes, who knows.

>>61148064
>You are seriously implying that laws don't do anything to deter criminals.
we have an 80% recidivism rate in the US. that means for every 100 people that gets out of jail, 80 people will be back at least once.

laws do not deter criminals

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>>61150967
Violent crime is never defined in your shitty chart anon. It could be something as simple as assault or battery that's being indicated there. Also, where are the deaths mentioned? Very pathetic attempt at a rebuttal. Try harder

Now for the correct chart.

Do you purposely try to be wrong or is it completely accidental? You're entitled to your opinion, but I want you to know it's wrong and not supported by and logic or facts.

>>61148080
its called a short stroke gas piston.

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>>61151037

It doesn't matter how I sound if I'm right, which I am. Your attempts to incite me have failed.

Also, speaking of your failures, how about responding to this anon >>61150967
who called you out on your bullshit?

>>61151324
what is the point of this chart?
that homocides have gone down as gun ownership has gone up?

>>61145800
Hello

No guns = holocaust

>>61151324

>violent crime is never defined in your shitty chart

It's defined very clearly, actually, at the bottom of the chart. So not only do you have dumb opinions, but basic reading comprehension seems to be out of the question too.

Wonderful. I can see we're making real progress here.

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>>61150830
>Tell that to the parents of the newtown first graders
no obituaries, no record of funerals
SERIOUS DOUBT
>I'm doing everything I can to ensure guns are off the streets, and the majority of people agree with me
PROOFS ?
people on a random intrawebs poll = most of the usa ?
explain all the pro-gun states going against what you are saying perhaps ?
>http:/nytimes.com/2015/12/05/world/australia/australia-gun-ban-shooting.html
yea, no
>http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-facts-that-neither-side-wants-to-admit-about-gun-control/207152/
>http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/guns-in-other-countries/
>http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Report-on-gun-related-suicides-and-crime-for-the-Australian-Parliament-Rev.pdf
>http://louderwithcrowder.com/obama-praises-australias-gun-ban-the-actual-results/#.VpoRDL-ou2w
>http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/03/the-australian-gun-ban-conceit/

>The same thing would happen here
educate urself anon

>>61151324

>Violent crime is never defined in your shitty chart anon. It could be something as simple as assault or battery that's being indicated there

No fucking shit. That's the entire point. ALL violent crime goes up when guns are banned in a massive way. I guess in your mind it's better for more women to get raped, more people to get beaten within an inch of their life, and more crime occurring than ever before as long as fewer people are dead as a result.

Oh by the way, you're completely fucking oblivious to how banning guns would work in the USA versus how it would work in the UK or Australia. They're island nations, we're not. They border Scotland, we border fucking Mexico. They don't have a massive arms industry and 1.2 guns for every single citizen.

Ban guns, crime increases. Criminals still have shit loads of guns and the police will be busy fighting pissed off gun owners who refuse to give up their weapons. Gun violence will rise higher than it's ever been and you faggots are the ones who will have incited it.

You're simply delusional. You see black as white. You think that forcing people into a position where they must use weapons or bow to your whim will somehow decrease the amount of violence. Here's a tip: It doesn't and it never will.

>>61148755
>Maybe they'll change their minds if someone close to them suffers a gun death.
my mom;s friend;s son shot himself in the head. i still have my guns.
if he would have hanged (yes, hanged is correct) himself i would have kept all my rope as well

>>61145800
The problem with your picture is that you need a group of people to even TRY to convince ONE person.

If you can't see the problem with this seriously hang yourself.

If one person cannot tell another and must depend on additional people to convince the other person, then all you want is to take the independence of the one person. You are fucking retarded if you support any reduction in independence. The moment you lose independence is the moment your government picks and chooses YOUR life. Your cowardice is being used against you by evil and you're too much of a pussy bitch to realize when you're being lied to. Live free or die motherfucker.

>>61149370
if all that has stopped you from committing murder is the lack of a gun, you should seek serious clinical help

>>61151691
Knowing the liberal tendency for self delusion, that's probably not inaccurate..

>>61149370

Let me clarify something for you.

You say the only thing keeping you from killing someone has been a lack of a gun. Okay, great.

So the thing is, the rest of us own guns to protect ourselves from unstable creeps like yourself.

So go fuck yourself.

>>61149751
no its not. you can legally own a full auto Tommy gun

>>61150830
>Tell that to the parents of the newtown first graders
Lanza did not have the right to possess the guns he used. he stole them. and thats a felony

>>61149370
You're fucking retarded. The adrenal response from knowing that you're about to kill somebody is so strong that a bitch like you would freak out and miss. Unless you're telling us that you are consistently in a place where if you had a gun you'd feel comfortable enough to just shoot someone. You have no understanding of human behavior, you've just been spoon fed opinions by your peers and your daily routine.

>>61145800
>Best way to remove guns from the USA?
That's a highway to criminals to fuck people over even harder.

>>61149974
>Guns make it incredibly easy to kill people that you otherwise wouldn't kill.

this is what you sound like

>now that i have a gun, im gonna go kill people, easily!

>>61151786
>>61151834

You might as well not reply to him, he's a fucking idiot. It's his rationalization for being a coward.

>I-if I had a g-g-gun I'd have k-killed those guys who m-made fun of me in high school

The idea that not having a gun held him back from killing people he wanted to kill is an excuse for his own impotent rage.

>>61151791
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guides-importation-verification-firearms-national-firearms-act-definitions-0

oh yeah i read it wrong nvm im fucking retarded
either way you can't have a semi-auto tommy gun. its a machine gun no matter what