The FBI has been discovered masquerading as the Militia while performing illegal activities in an attempt to sway public opinion against them. Statist shills, explain yourself.
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Why isn't anyone in this thread? Are 90% of /pol/ shills? The FBI prediction everyone thought came true.
I would still trust the government over any citizen any day. Fuck you, mindless shill sheep. Keeping pretending your rights aren't granted and protected by the government you hate so much.
>start anti-government group
>act surprised when government tries to keep tabs on you
There are plenty of horrible people who work for the government in every type of position. Since they have the power of the men with guns, they are able to disregard the law, while fellow citizens are bound by the same laws you are. Have you ever called the cops on your family? Maybe it's not so bad up there, eh, but down here that's a good way to get your family killed.
Short answer is yes, there are actual shills and boot lickers on this board.
This is the same MO cops used just before the Waco massacre, undercover cops dressed like bikers were harassing the customers just before it all happened. Do you understand yet?
>t. facebook comments
But of course bootlickers will defend le honest bolice cause they dindu nuffin
And that would be understandable, but they were witnessed loitering around a gun store and following people, tailgating, etc.
I'm not advocating people join the Militia, in fact
>The looming threat of agent provocateurs may be one of the reasons why the refuge occupiers are turning away help from outside militias who have attempted to join the occupation.
They aren't looking for bodies. It's just important that this information is spread. For all of the false flag accusations /pol/ has thrown around over the years, for us to actually get such concrete proof is something we can't ignore.
So a volunteer fire chief called 911 and asked them to run a plate, and they did. Not only that but when 911 ran the plate, it came back as an 'undercover' FBI car?
Does anyone else think this story is a bit off?
They are hicks, more specifically shitkickers. They don't care about that county or the land. They want to recreate the Bundy standoff and gain more traction for their militias. They would have chosen anything that poped up for their standoff and this was it.
and I'm pretty sure fire chiefs don't to stop people for questioning and run their plates. sounds like he was playing cop for the militia.
I was in a militia that was just a bunch of friends that played paintball on the weekends. We had an FBI fag try to infiltrate and try to pull off a lot of illegal shit. He couldn't get anyone to bite his bullshit and nobody wanted him around so he left. a year later he gets busted trying to plot an assassination against some judge when he just set up and entrapped a couple of jackasses.
You can't expect MSM to pick up a story like this, especially before it's reached critical mass in public perception. News outlets have their hands tied because they've grown dependent on having a special relationship with the government so they don't have to work so hard to break stories.
If this doesn't die down in the next couple of weeks, then more reputable sources will begin looking into it. But as >>61138714 said, the media hasn't exactly been painting a very kind picture of the militia from the start.
>Just before this discovery was made, there were reports of people who looked like militia harassing locals, which is uncharacteristic of the protesters who initially assembled at the refuge. It turns out that these militia members suspected of harassing locals were actually undercover FBI agents.
Wow so conducting psyops on your own nation, good job FBI, so when you guys are faced with a revolt eventually, remember what you did when people begin trying you in the People's Court with Judge Judy presiding
Are there really traitors? I don't think the federal government should be allowed to own such vast tracts of land. At the very least, their actions will put pressure on the government to take official action. They haven't harmed anybody, including federal employees.
Welcome to cointel pro. See Occupy Wallstret. Which was about getting Glass Stegal back into law and busting up the banks. The FBI and Homeland infiltrated it and made it the farce that it became in like in a few weeks.
Not the first time our POS gov tries to make fools out of the people that support them by paying taxes on their wages. Pic unrelated
> FBI Poses as Oregon Militia, harass citizens
I mean, something that isn't complete batshit crazy bullshit?
> didn't think so
Hi, Cliven. Pay yuor denbts.
>government goes out of their constitutionally granted power to harm a citizen
>literally the definition of tyranny.
>militia forms to stand up against them
>wah people following unjust rules! TR8R!
The FBI literally does not know how to do law enforcement any more. They have that one scene from the Crucible memorized, in which the protagonist, who tried to not be a martyr, is told that submission is not enough: the perpetual witch hunt needs your help turning in your friends. After all, if it didn't recruit, if it ever ended, people would get around to questioning the authenticity of all those witches.
Won't you do your part today and turn in a neighbor?
>citizens do something that threatens your authority
>create false flag attack so you can slaughter them
If justice truly existed we would purge the sadistic fucks running this country
I saw a better source that stated the FBI said they were posing as businessmen. Here is the kind of story the Oregon Media is reporting. The Idaho media is much more fair
>Canadian trying understanding rebellion
Being a traitor to a tyrannical government is not a bad thing though, Canada. It's your responsibility as an American to actively resist injustice, even if and especially if it's a federal law.
By your logic you are saying to just give up. The people are fighting for what the people want. You are the people. You decide on what your people want as a democratic society not like a tyranny government
Bottom right is where this shit is going down. The two poorest counties in the state.
Yes they are
>A lengthy investigation followed and the two men were arrested after meeting with individuals they believed to be KKK financiers but who were in reality FBI agents.
A nice little update and clarification.
Not sure how 'biased' or 'reliable' usnews is, but bloody interesting.
Compare the title to what he 'clarified'
>“They weren’t posing as anything other than dishonest people,” he says. “They were perceived as militia by the locals, but they weren’t posing out there with a shirt that said ‘I’m militia.’”
If this is true, that's pretty fucking intense. There should be some kind of uprising to kick the shit out of the Federales.
Seriously though, how can that even be legal? They're just allowed to make people look like fucking retards and there is nothing you can do about it?
"Oh, it's in the name of national security, therefore I can't release this information"
Oh ok don't pretend that questioning and standing up against tyranny is worse than accepting tyranny just because they say so
you are literally an unfree statist shill and you'd prescribe to the same diatribe if the government told you to kill yourself that it would be just
This isn't surprising.
Is it any surprise that the terms "yeehawdist" and "y'all qaeda" caught on instant and without any one notable person starting it?
There were tones of Nicknames all pushed by government sock puppets knowing some of them would stick. This is information war and they are making rebellion uncool.
I can guarantee that even if I am wrong, and even if I am a paranoid nut that they are watching this shit. They are learning from it and figuring out how to discredit a legitimate uprising before it ever starts.
The feds do this shit regularly, Anon.
That's why there's so much of a stink about security/privacy in this country... In the last 30 years the federal government has been going out of their way to try and secure their position at the top of the food chain and they don't want anyone to threaten that.
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
>foreign and domestic
>enemies of the United States
>United States = We the People
Government is mostly(99%) a force of wrongdoings and misdeeds.
Stop supporting the system and people that hate you, morons.
You aren't man, you're 100% accurate.
They've been riding the hype train since the minute this happened trying to do damage control. They've got pretty much everyone in the region memeing their life away and bragging about sending dildos to these guys that they're blind to the real issues.
They don't even know why these guys are there.
They don't understand the federal land grabbing
They don't know they're being sold out.
They just parrot liberal memes because they're trendy and cool.
Yes, this is nothing new. There is even a word for it.
People are so complacent now that they don't even have to bait people into acting, they just join the group and act dumb.
You will notice that movements that threaten the elite like occupy wall Street get destroyed and ridiculed while "harmless" ones like BLM are allowed to go and are sometimes funded by the elite.
You have a warped view of freedom and all the rights it affords. You think questioning is traitorous and rejecting unjust rule is completely abnormal and you think the state would never do wrong
Yeah, I knew that. It just seems strange to me that there isn't a politician (until now) that has been against the Feds. (From what I can see, this is Trump and Rand, for the two front runners) that is winning in the polls.
You'd imagine people would be totally against the Feds and would vote for these politicians on principle. But it turns out people would rather sacrifice their Freedom for apparent "security".
Which to me, seems insane. Especially when you look at countries like Australia and UK. It's a fucking joke in the UK, and Australia is quickly on its way to becoming UK 2.0.
>You think questioning is traitorous and rejecting unjust rule is completely abnormal and you think the state would never do wrong
No, I don't. I think taking up arms against your government and seizing property is traitorous.
You think an unfair, unjust government that goes out of its way to harm its own citizens or uses power unlawfully is totally ok and these "traitors" who question and reject it are heathens
"The people he found at the armory drove off in three vehicles, one of which he followed to a nearby McDonald’s. Two men in the black SUV identified themselves as businessmen named “Chuck” and “Mike” who were looking to open shop in the town, an explanation Briels refused to accept.
Briels called local authorities, who he says arrived later to the scene. A sheriff’s deputy, he says, took a phone call and then explained the men were undercover FBI agents.
Though Briels has poured cold water on the tale attributed to him, the FBI’s Portland field office would not address whether or not undercover agents are being used to address the refuge occupiers, who have invited ranchers’ rights supporters from across the country to join them.
“Due to the ongoing investigation we cannot provide any comments at this time,” said a statement from the Harney County Joint Information Center, in response to an inquiry emailed to an FBI spokeswoman."
trying to get anyone to care about fucking Oregon.
Your joking right....
Its fucking OREGON!!!!!!!!!!!
Abe appropriated that land during the Civil War for the Federal Government. The Federal Government was supposed to return the land to the States after the Civil War ended. The problem is though the Senate has never held a formal vote to return the land in over 150 years, so it hasn't happened even though they're legally obligated to. Federal Courts have constantly cockblocked the States whenever they've pressed the issue.
because what the government is doing is unjust and out of line and violates the rights of the citizens. The militia has the explicit right to stand up the way they're doing. By calling them traitors you infer and imply that the state is right, just and fair.
>we should drone strike those terrorists!
>hick cowboy terrorists deserve to die!
>(can't get people behind your desperate bootlicking)
>WHO CARES ABOUT OREGON!
lololololol liblubes trying their best
Seriously FBI, you faggots are doing a shit type job with your COIN TEL OPs, we did better, with 1/4 of the funding in afghanistan.
Welp, if the Feds weren't already monitoring this thread, they are now. Fuck me because from everything I've read I side with the militia but I know if I get involved with much more than a couple 4chan posts it could potentially ruin my future.
I'm the one who made this thread, anon. How many lists do you think that got me on? Also, the militia doesn't want you, no offense
>The looming threat of agent provocateurs may be one of the reasons why the refuge occupiers are turning away help from outside militias who have attempted to join the occupation.
The best thing you can do is be a well informed citizen who tries to help others reach morally consistent positions. If life ever gives you an opportunity, you'll be ready for it, but finding one shouldn't be your primary goal. That's when you run into honeypots.
They're brainwashed, man.
Even people who I know who are considerably critical of the state/fed seem to be against these guys because of facebook memes and general brainwashing. At this point it seems like people are so receptive to it that they don't even realize what they're saying or doing.
That's the power of marxism. They don't ever try to tell the truth or to convince anyone of their position. They just have people repeat their position as if it were correct constantly and other people follow suit. It's one of the most powerful techniques that was developed in the 20th century. I think it might exploit a flaw in the way human brains work. Hearing shit over and over and over just makes people think it is true and even makes them agree with it sometimes, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
>Ok, but don't pretend it isn't treason.
>Treason consists of levying war or aiding enemies who are levying war, against the United States.
There's a reason it "United States" rather than US Government.
It is not treason to fight the GOVERNMENT politically or martially if necessary.
They haven't even levied war as of yet. But disregarding that fact, even if they did they would be following the constitution.
The founding fathers recognized this and that is why they worded what constitutes treason carefully. So dipshits like you that have potato-tier reading comprehension wouldn't interpret it incorrectly but you did anyway.
You never go hunting for them as anon said, if you truly want that kind of situation, you start it with close close childhood friends or family. Any other way isn't trustworthy enough
You guys are still on this? News flash! No one gives a fuck about some rednecks trying to keep some other rednecks from going to jail. It's not about "citizens rights". It's about stupid rednecks beating their chest and chimping out over "muh gubbament!" No one gives a fuck.
>in b4 much bootlicker, FBI, JIDF and all those /pol/ boogeymen
I seriously wonder how men can do this and sleep at night. I've been in the military for 9 years and would never do anything against the American public. Are they the kind of frat boy bullies who couldn't cut it in the operational Army? Seriously, you lose your man card when you do this kinda shit. 0 respect for those guys.
>> yfw you realize it's not about jail it's about the feds controlling public land.
>> yfw they're making an example out of these guys in order to scare other people in the region away from standing up for their rights.
>Da Gubbament can't own land!
This is what idiots actually believe.
They should establish a more fair world.
Upboat those two threads, if you browse cuckkit.com
heh police.... thats funneh.... implying they could pull that off without guidance and leadership. Whatever they gotta tell themselves to sleep at night.
We own the night!
You fit the colloquial definition of shilling on this board, and you are a massive retarded faggot that is genuinely less intelligent than most of the posters in this thread.
Feel free- oh wait, Canadian :^)
So because I believe in and understand my constitutional rights, I'm suddenly some side of the highway lawyer who is an ass hole to the officer who pulled me over for speeding?
I promise, the ONLY times I've been pulled over (and I always run straightpipes) have been when I am speeding or doing something stupid.
And when I was, I wasn't disrespectful to the officer, and in turn didn't have a hard time.
Now if an officer literally pulled me over for nothing, and then busted out my window and attempted to detain me for absolutely no legal reason, I'd let it hapen, and lawyer up and sue the shit out of the county, station, and officer.
If the officer acted with any intent that I felt threatened my life or limb (without me first doing the same to them like an asshat) you bet your ass I'd resist.
But in the meantime, you're just being one of those confusing liberals who typically follows the line of thinking of "the government is oppressive man, those cops man, but we need more government and free shit man"
So pardon my distaste for your use of oxygen
>but against white people who aren't communists now
If that isn't the most clear statement of the times we live in I don't know what the fuck is.
Literally overseas combat theatre operations bein conducted stateside to ensure state control stays in state's hands.
COunter INTELligence PROgram
Pretty fucked up especially when you've seen it used downrange.
Please, please for the love of god, let the government go overt psychopath on us all so we vets all band together to do a state side version of OP Haymaker
SOMEONE SAVE THIS BEFORE JEW TUBE TAKES IT DOWN
>term used to discredit and bring into question the sanity of individuals and groups who have dug too much and seen how deep the rabbit hole goes.
>used much like insane was used in the 50's and 60's for people with high sex drives, strong willed women, homosexuals, and many many more.
Please continue to call us conspiracy theorists, but don't take offense to my disregard for your view.
I've seen how this shit works overseas you fuck, how nations and governments are toppled and replaced with puppets, how invasions turn to occupations, proxy wars, and how the State's own agencies can and are implemented as perverse elements of totalitarian and dictatorship style control.
Oh, and let's not forget false flag ops and candidate eliminations and vote rigging
Wat... you get shut down so you attack me on speeding regulations? Theyd still exist just not be priced, or rather maybe in a true free market system you'd be charged per hour, per infraction, by infraction severity, and for the corporate officer making an appearance to cite you, as well as charged for the ink and paper used to write the citation.
i hate the FBI but if you're a "militia man" who's never served in any branch your a fucking faggot queer who could never fight a real enemy
keep playing dress up in the woods while the adults do the real talking
>be super secret CIA undercover op
>have all the tacticool gear at my fingertips for big staging
>have to tape over boots so they won't give away secret special training boots with yellow sticker
you really think that all the money n shit they put into this instead of buying new fucking boots they TAPED OVER them? you're an idiot and a disgrace to true patriots
Technically it's not a sticker. It's a VIBRAM logo pressed into the bottom of the sole of the boot. Vibram is a pretty popular manufacturer of boot soles. I actually own two different pairs of boots with Vibram soles.
They also make disc golf disks, fwiw.
Looks like we have a group of armed, religious extremists who have taken by force - a government building and are making demands of territorial secession.
>Remind you of something?
Clowns with guns don't kill...they amuse.
>according to google US news on a range of lowest to highest level of expertise, authority and trustworthiness is high.
But that's ignoring a local government official's primary account of the story.
My three videos in order regarding the Oregon militants.
Zionism will make this a blood bath.
FBI is run by Israel.
Blood bath imminent.
No matter how much he say's he has not quit.
He quit. He fucked everybody and now he's out of a JOB and has no authority. He quit, such a dumb move.
He could have used his position to provide peace.
Either they have not thought this threw or they are giving the illusion of not thinking this threw. Either way, feigning stupidity is working.
You need 'guns' to institute a theocracy where none is needed? Seems a bit - hostile?
Daily reminder newfag trumpshills lick boot and cops are "the most mistreated people in this country".
Stay delusional trumpcucks.