Welfare queens, cucks and flunkies will unironically vote

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>>61121734
I hate Bernie but still want a source on the data in that picture

>>61122171
That's an awful lot to expect form a shitposter. I've seen a graphic Bernie's campaign made of how they propose to fund all his plans. Not sure how reasonable it is, but the data's there.

>>61121734

explanation on the pic? it seems like bullshit. I don't support any of the nominees in the USA anymore, but it's no reason to spread lies everywhere.

Bernie will be immediately cucked by the UN once he gets in office. The same as Trudeau was just cucked by the UN today. Bernie's $17 trillion dollar plan will go to fight worldwide poverty, as no one in the US is considered poor by international standards.

>>61122171
>>61123413
Source is in the top right lads

http://louderwithcrowder.com/busted-bernie-sanders-plan-why-the-math-doesnt-work/

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>>61124362
*top left, excuse my retardation

>>61121734
>fun fact
>not fun or factual

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>>61122171
>>61122436
>>61123413
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/09/15/yes-the-price-tag-for-bernie-sanderss-vision-is-too-high/
Whats another 18 trillion?

>>61121734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

Enjoy Bernie Friends

>>61124214
>Implying the UN means shit to the US
>Implying its shit to anyone else

>>61121734
Voting for Bernie has no long term benefits for socialists, voting for Trump has. TRUMP 2016

>>61121734
this guy looks like a sadist clearly enjoying the pain you experience

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>>61121734
>when you realize college age kids buy this crap because they are entitled little pieces of crap
>when you realize it doesn't matter what your policies are as long as you can make people think its a good idea
>when you realize that people in this country are robbed of their wages then bribed with their own money

>>61125100
Let's coddle the rich some more because golly gee it has to work this time!

>>61122171
I did the math for 1%'s total income and it came out to 2 trillion (I just looked up another estimate that 1% make 20% of all income which means 3t in t), the defense budget is easy to find at 0.6 trillion. It is obvious that you can't have 100% tax brackets so the argument is pretty strong. Generally Bernie bots will default to "healthcare reform will make up the difference :^)"

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>>61125372
>coddle the rich some more

You are a fucking retard if you honestly believe you can tax money out of their wallets and into yours.

>>61122436
Yeah that data is fucking ridiculous, it somehow thinks that implementing single payer healthcare would save $32 Trillion a year.

>>61125512
>>61126204
Honestly, I'll start taking /pol/ seriously when even fucking 1 of you can make an argument that is free of logical fallacies.

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>>61124490
see>>61124645
>>61124362

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>>61121734

we've had this thread before. US citizens per capita pay roughly 3x as much on healthcare than canadians. Destroy the current healthcare system, add a small middle class tax, they save money and get healthcare. These ridiculous shitty "sources" discount the fact that PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO PAY THEIR CURRENT PREMIUMS. It's like they are genuinely retarded.

education can actually be paid for really easily if you look at the money that's actually required for it--not that much. I believe he wants to do it mostly by taxing wall street.

These are such cherry picked, retarded sources, anyone who believes this shit are retarded.

>>61121734
You lie, cunt.

>>61126571
Hi welcome to /pol/ where facts don't matter and gut feelings dominate all discussion

>>61126351
>muh Argumentum ad lapidem
>muh question begging epithet
>muh complex question fallacy
>muh woozle effect

Oh, the Irony!

>>61126690
ive been here for several weeks, for some reason I literally can't leave even though I fucking hate it and half the people on here.

>>61126351
>coddle the rich some more
>you cannot tax money from them and expect a personal gain yourself
>hurr durr logical fallacy

Fuck man 18 year old kids are on a whole new level of stupid these days

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>>61121734
>Welfare queens, cucks and flunkies

Ironic, you just described the average Trump supporter

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>>61121734

>>61126351
What are you even talking about? I made a post with what the numbers are.

>>61126571
Yeah man social education will probably be a huge payoff with a shit ass job market

>>61126905
He's upset that the relatively nebulous concept of healthcare reform is not being accepted as something that will save trillions of dollars.

>>61126690
>look I'm projecting
I like how you backed up your claims with sources and not your feelings

Oh, wait....

>>61126751
Give me one argument without a logical fallacy.

>>61126756
I love the platform and ability to have free and unfiltered speech, but it's full of fucking idiots.

>>61126771
You're misrepresenting Sanders' proposals.

>>61126905
Only talking about taxing the 1%

>>61126756
This is a cess-pool if stupidity and hopelessness, do yourself a favor and leave and never come back. I plan to sometime this week.

>>61127007
Yeah let me know when you start following that rule and then I'll step into line. I'm not going to waste my time trying to have an adult discussion with people who are only interesting in memes, shitposting, an the lowest common denominator of political discussion.

>>61126831
>He is trying to deflect criticism
>muh tu quoque

Kek

>>61126831
>nonsensical automated response

Nice try, retard. Stick with comebacks like "racist! Bigot! Fascist!" at least then you have plausible deniability.

>>61127109
>how dare you call me out on my bullshit
Seems I struck a nerve

Your post is just one long argument of stone combined with your feelings

>>61127109
> I'm not going to waste my time trying to have an adult discussion with people who are only interesting in memes, shitposting, an the lowest common denominator of political discussion.

Yet, here you are...
how does that make you feel?

>>61127043
>you are misrepresenting Sanders proposals of taxing the 1%

I literally said you can't expect to tax them and gain anything personally.

You are objectively a retarded person.

>>61127272
No it's me acknowledging the obvious reality that the majority of you have no logically sound arguments and would get torn to pieces in a formal academic debate.

>>61127383
I for one am fascinated by how people deal with finding out that they're wrong. It's a fun game seeing how different people react to it.

>>61127424
Yeah and that's misrepresenting Sander's proposals. He's not basing his campaign around direct redistribution of wealth. If you're going to criticize him, pick a policy that he actually has instead of making up bullshit.

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>>61127109

You need to get a serious grip that Bernie is finished.

Since you were clearly born in '98 I'll fill you in on something about super delegates.

Bernie needs 2/3's of the popular vote to win the DNC nomination.

Literally never done. And self-proclaimed socialist will not be the first.

Give it up.

>>61126571
The estimates for the Bernie single player Healthcare plan came from Canadian officials whom came here at 2012 So.....

>>61121734
Numbers and facts from non right wing "economists", please.
facts, not memes.

>>61127082
i heard that at one point most of this board was split between bernie and rand paul, so im hoping one day it can return to those glory days.

>>61127577
I have literally not once said that I support or am voting for Sanders, because I don't and am not. I honestly just want to see if any of you are capable of arguing without memes, shitposting, insults, or logical fallacies. So far all of you have failed miserably.

>>61127687
It used to be an even split between Hitler fanboys and libertarians. Now it's mostly fascist Trumpcucks.

>>61127559
>I for one am fascinated by how people deal with finding out that they're wrong. It's a fun game seeing how different people react to it.

Yet, you can't prove them wrong and resort to question begging epithet and false attribution fallacy

Like >>61127272 said
Your whole position is Argumentum ad lapidem

for someone that claims to be logical and have "adult conversations" you sure do act childish

Why would that be?

>>61127559
How much would Bernie the 1%

>>61127559
>the money coming from Sanders social program promises won't come from taxing people
>he's a socialist but won't redistribute wealth

Let me guess, youre studying African American art

>>61127577
the superdelegates have also never decided the primaries before. and they aren't going to start doing it. by the end of an election, everyone has dropped out and endorsed one candidate, and the superdelegates almost always endorse that one candidate too. They are extremely likely to change their mind at that point, or the democratic party will be under a lot of heat.

>>61126983
Well it could, but you're making a hell of a coin flip considering the USA sure does love turning shit into x-industrial complexes. Basically a Bernie fag would be outraged if there were one single private health insurance provider, but if it is the government then it is the best damn thing around. What with the government's proven track record of keeping citizen's interests at heart, especially the police who they are so fond of.

The government mucking around in healthcare is annoying shit since they can just arbitrarily decide that everyone has to do something- that is the current state where their bargaining chip is not paying out Medicare/Medicaid bennies. That alone means they can push things like HITECH and meaningful use penalties. Plus Medicare fee-for-service ends up determining industry costs because insurance companies just modify those rates slightly.

>>61127559
Sorry phone, tax*

>>61121734

niggers will vote for trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WhGgHjwZxU

>>61127708

Then you're as blind as you are stupid, because several people have posted sources sorting his erroneous math.

Just because you finished your first semester at college champ doesn't mean you suddenly know how the world works.

>>61127844
iirc hes releasing his tax plans this month, so why don't we all just sit on our asses, play some batman arkham knight, and shut the fuck up about his tax plans until that happens

>>61121734

you should listen to wittengstein: Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent

you don't know shit

>>61127819
You mean pointing out that none of them are actually arguing the policies of Sanders and are straight up making up things they can easily mock?

>>61127860
And you don't see how characterizing social programs of all kinds as "taxing the rich and putting the money in your pocket" is a disingenuous and flawed way of portraying that concept?

>>61127913
>>61127913
Show me these posts anon, what you're describing does not exist in this thread.You'd like it to, but it doesn't.

>>61127559
>No it's me acknowledging the obvious reality that the majority of you have no logically sound arguments and would get torn to pieces in a formal academic debate.

Your feelings aren't reality
And you seem to be losing your cool

I've yet to see any "logical sound arguments" from you

Instead you present your feelings as fact.
Classic question begging epithet

>>61125100
it is funny because that is what happened with hitler except hitler did make good on the whole "German recovery" thing.

He even promised a free VW to workers.

So if we take a look at both periods when both were running you can notice that in a weird way Hitler was a much better candidate than Bernie Sanders is to the U.S

>>61128046
Keep flapping your gums man, you're really making some convincing arguments based on Sanders' policies.

Oh my bad, you're just claiming that I don't have arguments when my argument is that none of you are actually accurately representing his policies in your criticisms. You are not.

>>61128032
>>61124362

>>61128032
>You mean pointing out that none of them are actually arguing the policies of Sanders and are straight up making up things they can easily mock?

Can you prove it?
So far, all you did was do the same but claim the moral high ground

How is that different?

>>61128032
Fuckin no, are you too stupid to understand metaphors?

I always love hearing dumb fucking millennials going
>fuck if I didn't have so much taken from my check each week I'd be comfy
>hurr feel the Bern free college xD

>>61127964
Isn't that kinda irresponsible?most of th Republican candidates presented a tax plan or a budget plan

Can any Bernard supporter explain to me the effect of giving everyone free college, thus bloating the market with degrees, driving down their value? As far as I and any person with a basic knowledge of supply and demand economics knows, massively increasing the amount of degrees will destroy the value of them.

>>61128168
>If you cut the United States military ENTIRELY and taxes all earnings over 1Million dollars at 100%… You still couldn’t pay for this…

Your political clickbait support is also disingenuous, really unprecedented here.

>>61128281
Sure, go to Sanders website, look at the arguments made in this thread, and then realize that you're misrepresenting his policies by making shit up.

>>61128282
That's a bad metaphor as well.

>Cut military spending by 100%
>Destroy the millonaire class that makes america the most sucessful country in bussiness
This is a great idea
Regards,paid Chinese shill.

>>61128464
What is his policies then?

>>61128166
>stop hurting my feelings
Are you legitimately retarded?

You're really not making convincing arguments for sanders. Then crying when your own logic is used against you.
lol

Since you know Sanders policies so well why dont you post convincing arguments for them?

Protip: you can't

>>61128508
I'm not typing it out for you, go to his website.

>>61128548
I'm not laying out all his policies for you by typing them up. Go to his website and read them. I'll argue them when you actually criticize his policies and not ones that you made up.

>>61128464
>Sure, go to Sanders website, look at the arguments made in this thread, and then realize that you're misrepresenting his policies by making shit up.

So you can't prove anything you say and then say the equivalent to "read a book"

If you know them so well you should be able to tell us what they are without being a hypocrite and doing what you accuse others of doing

>>61128464

>Your political clickbait support is also disingenuous, really unprecedented here.

The point is they even EMBELLISH his radical policies and it still falls flat.

For someone that doesn't support Bernie you sure seem to be sucking his cock.

>>61128032
>And you don't see how characterizing social programs of all kinds as "taxing the rich and putting the money in your pocket" is a disingenuous and flawed

It's not disingenuous and it' snot flawed. It's literally what's happening. You can give excuses as to why it's ok, in this special case, to do, but it's not a mischaracterization.

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>arguing for sanders
>literally arguing for a Marxist Jew

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>>61128464
Lmao. You've finally broken down to simply plugging your ears, closing your eyes, and humming.

>you're wrong you're wrong you're wrong
>how
>go look it up

You are a child.

>>61128664
>WAH I'M NOT GIVING YOU THE WEBSITE
>>61128032
>WAH SHOW ME THE POSTS WITH SOURCES

>>61127043
>Give me one argument without a logical fallacy.
>burden of proofs out the ass

>>61128720
To be fair, he does explain very well how he's paying for everything, aside from healthcare, which he apparently /plans/ on releasing that before the iowa caucus.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

>>61128664
I'm not laying out all his policies for you by typing them up. Go to his website and read them. I'll argue them when you actually criticize his policies and not ones that you made up.

Because you can't and even you are admitting you dont know what his policies are.

LOL I've been arguing with a retard,
Though I should've known because you support Bernie

What are his policies?
It shouldn't be hard to copy and paste them

>louder with crowder

Please fuck off with his faggot ass

>>61128850
>he does explain very well how he's paying for everything

That's been addressed
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>>61128664
>you're misrepresenting Sanders polices
>I say you're not successfully going to.get free shit taxing others

You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>61128720
I'm not telling you to read a book, I'm telling you to read one or two pages.

>>61128726
They don't embellish them, they make up some random tax policy that doesn't reflect his at all but seems like it does. This tricks idiots like you into thinking it has any meaning.

>>61128781
Well since you're making his policies up, I'm telling you that you should go and actually read them. This is the last time I'm telling you.

>>61128846
Since you're entire argument is ultimately built on a strawman, putting the burden of proof on me is taking the blame off of you. Stop strawmanning, and then we'll talk.

>>61128958
>telling me to go to a website and then copy paste its content here rather than you just going there.

Yeah fuck off you lazy shit.

>>61128850

>aside from healthcare
which conveniently is what % worth of his grand plan?

>>61129084
>yeah fuck off you lazy shit

Oh, the Irony!

>>61129084

The DNC and Bernie is fucked champ.

You can stop pretending.

Unlike you the and other gen Y kiddies the rest of the nation has a brain.

>>61129078
And what is that 75 billion dollar plan? Is it direct redistribution of wealth by taxation and then transfer of money into the rest of the population's bank accounts? Are you sure you're not oversimplifying something to make it easier to mock and criticize?

>>61129084
See
>>61129078

Bask in the feeling of being a total retard.

Guyz he's not really a communist i promise. That's a strawman for really.

>>61128664
So why even be here when you've just said that the reason of you being here is to see how people would react if they were proven wrong, your decision to not even present a counter argument doesn't help you. Might as well just ignore your post since you're all just talk without substance

>>61128958
I'll do it for the tard. His main policies are
1. single payer healthcare system
2. free tuition for public universities
3. raising minimum wage
4. good paid medical and family leave systems
5. breaking up the too big to fail banks and whatnot
6. closing off tax loopholes, making people actually pay taxes
7. get rid of money in politics

a lot of his ideas are actually really similar to trumps, believe it or not, trump just doesnt talk about a lot of it anymore. Trump has regularly praised single payer healthcare systems, at one point he endorsed it but he sorta did a switcharoo into something more similar to obamacare after he decided to run, he doesn't like the money in politics and the money controlling shit, thinks everyone should pay their taxes, etc. I find it strange that the Republicans straight up don't talk about education and healthcare and whatnot, but I think Trump will plop down a lot of progressive ideas in those areas come general election time, because if you listen to him from prior to him campaigning, he supports a lot of it.

>>61129195
I'm not even voting or supporting sanders, I'm holding you guys to a standard at which educated adults debate and you fail so fucking badly.

>>61129217

>>61129198

>>61129084
>I'm not telling you to read a book, I'm telling you to read one or two pages.

Which shouldn't be hard for you to do since you are the one defending bernie's policies

But the real question here is
If you know bernis policies why can't you post them from memory? Or at least some of his policies?

>>61129198
I didn't mean "into your pocket" literally you miserable stupid asshole. You tax them for "Free shit", not realizing how many private pensions are utilized by wall Street.

Your not gaining anything economically you fucking idiot Jesus christ

>>61129274
At this point I'm seeing how long it takes even fucking one of you to pick a single policy that Sanders actually has and criticize it. Not one of you has succeeded.

>>61124645
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/09/15/yes-the-price-tag-for-bernie-sanderss-vision-is-too-high/
>literally "it costs too much"
lmao
oh wow so rekt

>>61129305

>I'm not even voting

Then you're a faggot and don't have a leg to stand on.

>>61129198
Right. And when i give a billion dollars to the clinton foundation, that's not me bribing hillary, it's a completely different thing. I wouldn't DREAM of giving HER the money.

Don't oversimplify it by calling it a bribe.

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>>61129305
>I was merely pretending
Sure you were

>>61129305
Yeah dude, go into law and cite all.of your papers and arguments with "go look it up"

What an adult standard for a 17 year old child

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>>61121734
Single payer is paid by a healthcare tax, airhead.

>>61129075
Not really, it doesn't really get into anything that he's actually said, in fact. And most of the issue is the healthcare, which again, he hasn't released the information on it. Have you read either of the two links and compared it to Bernie's actual information? They talk really weirdly in those 2 links about things which seem to have no connection with what he's proposing.

>>61129109
Right, I agree he should have already released it by now, but he does plan on releasing it soon.

>>61129367
Because that's a lot of typing to do for faggots on 4chan. Just fucking go there, bernie sanders dot com slash issues

>>61129449
Voting for Sanders*

>>61129454
You're completely lost.

>>61129479
I'm honestly just trying to see if even one of you is capable of arguing like an educated adult.

>>61129486
bernie sanders dot com slash issues

>>61129399
Couldn't the same can be said to you? That we're all just waiting for you to present the argument since you started the debate?

>>61129520
What is reading comprehension?
I went over how he said he is going to pay for everything

I can't go over his health care because he hasn't gone over is health care plan

>>61129198
You really should read it, it's quite a lengthy thing to simplify on 4chan
http://www.peri.umass.edu/fileadmin/pdf/ftt/Pollin--Heintz--Memo_on_FTT_Rates_and_Revenue_Potential_w_references----6-9-12.pdf

essentially, he's going to tax wall street transactions which will result in about $300 billion compared to the $75 billion needed


>>61129305
retard, shut the fuck up, you're making other people here look bad. fuck off

>>61129730
My argument is that you're all misrepresenting his policies. My evidence is his own website.

>>61129699
>Because that's a lot of typing to do for faggots on 4chan. Just fucking go there, bernie sanders dot com slash issues

It was too hard for you it seems, faggot

>>61129779
Fuck off you Canadian trash. Acting all big on the internet because you live in Feminism, the Country.

>>61129699
>You're completely lost.

Well, one of us is.

Guys, atms should be free to use. Why do college loans have higher interest rates than housing loans???

>>61129792

Fucking go home Curtis you fat nigger.

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>>61126204
Some people just want to move a few steps closer to countries like Denmark. Sure tax is high and things cost more but there are literally no cites that look like Detroit and people that get sick don't end up with their whole family living on the streets.

>>61129699
>I'm honestly just trying to see if even one of you is capable of arguing like an educated adult.

You should take your own advice
Which you are failing at it
So what's that say about your character?

>>61129839
>>61129867
>>61129902
Are you all 8th graders? This is a really sad display. Not one of you have picked a policy of Sanders and then laid out a criticism of it. Not one in this entire thread.

>>61129779
You think removing 300 bill from Wallstreet will result in total cooperation?

>>61129699
See
>>61129394

I've literally screenshotted his website, proposed to you how it's illogical, and you sit there spouting the same shit.

>>61129920
> but there are literally no cites that look like Detroit
Because no city in denmark is over 80% black.

>>61129957
Dude, when he says educated adult he means cocksucking liberal faggot. He's a cuck and he thinks it's morally superior to be a smarmy little prick.

>>61129920
Isn't Denmark the country where you pay like 60% in taxes for a $50,000 salary?

>>61121734
Other countries have universal healthcare and at least Germany has free university. So obviously it can be done.

>>61129754
You didn't go over anything, you posted two links. One of which is a washington post article which hardly says anything, and the other doesn't really tackle his individual plans he presents on his website. A lot of it seems to have little relevance. That being said, I haven't clicked every fucking link out of those 30 there, so if you could post one or two links here that does cover what he says on his website and why it's wrong, I'd be happy to read them, but of course only if they actually cover the exact proposals on his website (some of which were put there in the last couple of weeks)

>>61129920
Denmark has a population of 5 million people who are 99% homogeneous white that go back generations.

Import 3Rd worlders to account for 30% of the population, see how awesome they are then

>>61129987
>I have no argument and I call others children
We noticed

Why can't you live up to your own standards?
You are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing

>>61128166
you're argument is that no one on here has a good argument. anon uses same argument against you and queue the butthurt. This anon right hur has done gone full retard folks, never go full retard.

>>61129987
>>61129996
Right here cunt

>>61129987
>Mein autism: the post

If you haven't figured it out, thread is about ridiculing you and your cuck candidate. We already know he's economically illiterate.

We can already see that you're a disingenuous prick and we have no interest in engaging you seriously.

>>61130110
Brah, I noticed
Sad really

>>61130140
Other countries aren't the militarily super power with 300 fuckin million people in it

>>61129996
It's not like any single individual will lose a shitload of money, but no, I don't know how it will go down, nor do you guys know if all of trumps proposals will work out how he wants them to. There's always uncertainty in politics. Worse case scenario, he can't bring in free education and its exactly the same as it is now.

>>61130191
http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511?cb=logged0.49945163168013096

>>61129996
So you admit that your "taxing the rich to put money in your own pocket will never work" was a disingenuous representation of his proposed social policies.

>>61130110
Is that what you say when someone points out that you're a drooling retard?

>>61130211
>come into thread
>see a bunch of people making up leftist policies and attributing them to Sanders even though he is not proposing those policies
>point it out
>everyone asks what my evidence is
>show them his website
>no one yet has argued one of sanders policies

>>61130267
>he still can't pick on of sanders' policies and argue it

>>61130353
>its not like individuals will lose shit loads of money

You do realize many companies base their retirement plans off of ws speculation, correct?

>>61121734
That's fucking absurd. Putting words on a picture doesn't make it true.

Let's see the numbers. A wise man propotions his beliefs to the evidence.

>>61130379
I'm not going to, it's not my fault you're a fucking idiot who interprets everything literally.

>get proved wrong
>demand a statement absolving responsibility for being stupid and wrong.

>>6112977
Taxing speculators? Didn't speculation only happened due to government incentives that temporarily removed risk and encouraged insurers to lend out their assets on non-credit worthy borrowers?

>>61130379
>do what i say or i'll call you a baby

Oh no! Not that!

This cocksucker thinks he can get me to do what he wants by insulting me!

Nope, that shit only works on people like you.

>>61130364
Yeah, everything in that article is true. It would be very expensive, it would expand the government, but as it says in the article, it's not impossible, it's very viable. It's a matter of if you want that kind of big change or not. As a canadian, I really don't give that much of a shit, and it's obviously up to the Americans to choose, but to me, he looks like the best candidate.

>>61130379
>>come into thread
>>see a bunch of people making up leftist policies and attributing them to Sanders even though he is not proposing those policies
>>point it out
>>everyone asks what my evidence is
>>show them his website
>>no one yet has argued one of sanders policies
>doesn't even link to sanders website
>gets mad when asked about sanders policies since he thinks he knows them
>when asked to present sanders policies he gets upset and says "look it up"
>actively ignores when other posters point out flaws in sanders plan
>claims he is an adult while whining that nobody is acting like one except him
>does exactly what he claims others are doing

wew lad

>>61130484
If many hardworking people will be harmed by his ideas, then I have a problem with that. I would personally have to look into that individual point more though, I haven't looked at that one too much. Again, not voting lol, so it's not /that/ important to me, but I like a lot of his ideas.

>>61130583
It's a shitty metaphor in the first place, as I said when you first posted it. Pooling money for hospitals and schools isn't putting money into the pockets of poor people by taking it from the rich. It's not about that and that's a shitty metaphor.

>>61130604
No I didn't mean drooling as in immature, I mean that you are cognitively weak and you struggle with simple tasks.

>>61130695
I posted his website and the page where he outlines his policies. I'm not typing out or copy pasting it for you. If you're too fucking lazy to copy and paste a URL you should castrate yourself.

>>61124214
We are the UN anon

>>61130807
this

I hate to admit it, but the US has had full control over the UN since its inception.

>>61130620
>>61130737
I want to remain as the country that influences the planet. The US tried isolationism and it didn't work. This country was founded on the pursuit of happiness, not guaranteed happiness.

Shit look at your own money. 1 of your dollars is worth 69 cents here. Pathetic.

>>61130620
You idiots voted for justin trudeau
and your currency value is taking a nosedive.
Of course you'd think sanders is the best candidate


http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/macquarie-loonie-forecast-1.3401644
http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/why-the-canadian-dollars-drubbing-could-last-a-decade

>>61121734
explains OP image

https://youtu.be/e-8spGrLrUM

commies btfo

>>61130785
>No I didn't mean drooling as in immature...

Does simple tasks include remembering things you typed literally minutes earlier??

>I'm not even voting or supporting sanders, I'm holding you guys to a standard at which educated adults debate and you fail so fucking badly.

I know you're a sanders supporter but come on. It shouldn't be asking too much for you to surpass the intellect of a goldfish.

>>61126571
>middle class tax
The middle class here is small as fuck because their money keeps getting taken from them. Why add a fucking tax.

>>61130785
>I posted his website and the page where he outlines his policies. I'm not typing out or copy pasting it for you. If you're too fucking lazy to copy and paste a URL you should castrate yourself.

It's not me who is defending his policies. You are the one too lazy to defend your own candidate and copy and paste yourself

If it's so easy why haven't you done it?

>>61128166
This guy has circular logic, ignore him, a fuckin bait

>>61129920
Gee it sure must be easy having all that incredible taxed money especially when other nations subsidize it's national defense for them

>>61130785
No, the rhetorical point is that money will remain in wallets because they aren't spending it on Healthcare and shit. NOTHING in life is free. Pooling money together to give people shit doesn't just result in free shit. The burden *has* to fall somewhere, and people have been getting around tax laws fucking forever.

Use your brain and close your mouth when you breathe faggot.

>>61131002
Your posts have been memes, insults an logical fallacies.

>>61131107
>copy pasting a URL
>copy pasting a webpage full of text with a character limit that will require several posts

Go there now and read it or this conversation is over.

>>61131138
>Pooling money together to give people shit doesn't just result in free shit.

Yeah no shit. Do you struggle with the concept of taxes and publicly funded programs?

>>61130930
>>61130951
Our currency is 69 cents to the dollar because we invested all of our money in oil, under the Harper administration. Trudeau has literally done nothing, he's only been in office for 2 months. I'm not saying he'll be good and help us out of this, but it's not some liberal politician that fucked us. We're just at a low point in our economy, but Canada has always been rather boom and bust, particularly Alberta, because of oil. We should have put more money into more important things, Ontario has been down the toilet for decades now. It's a shame. But it's not our socialist policies that are causing this, so that's completely non sequitur. We have done very well economically under socialism, but the price of oil dropping is completely crippling us.

>>61131059
You don't understand. The tax would be less than most people pay a year on health insurance. It's a replacement.

>>61131300
>I have no more stupid comebacks, anon

Thanks cuck. Call me when you and sanders can muster a coherent plan for anything.

>>61131300
>>copy pasting a URL
>>copy pasting a webpage full of text with a character limit that will require several posts

>I'm too stupid to do it so I expect other to do it for me

You do know you can spit up the post right?
Or are you too much of a dumbass to figure that out?

>>61121734
I'd rather those people get a few extra dollars than giving it to billionaires who won't pay taxes no matter who wins the election
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK4fJhbRL1g

>>61131424
>not only is he incapable of criticizing one policy of sanders
>he is still trying to insult me based on his assumption that I'm voting for Sanders even though I said I wasn't multiple times

>>61131440
That doesn't change anything I said. Go to the page right now, read it, or this conversation is over and you admit that you can't pick and debate a single one of Sanders' policies.

>>61131322
Nah mate, our problem is that our economy is tied heavily with the u.s Economy, haven't you noticed that when the u.s has dips our economy falls too

>>61131600
>I'm really not voting for sanders guys, i promise.

Whatever cuckboy. I accept your surrender.

Sell your bait to someone who's buying.

>>61131614
Yeah, I know. Ours actually falls even worse sometimes, because we consume a lot more. Although, some of our policies like more highly regulated banks have saved us in the past, like in the recent recession.

>>61131712
I'm a libertarian you mongoloid lmao

Holy shit, do the world a favor and cut off your testicles tonight.

>>61131769


Grow up, kiddo. Call me when you have something coherent to argue for.

>>61131322
Also there's the halt in progress of industry growth in Alberta due to ndp governance,even agriculture is also being impeded

>>61131600
>That doesn't change anything I said. Go to the page right now, read it, or this conversation is over and you admit that you can't pick and debate a single one of Sanders' policies.

So you admit your a dumbass and even ignore when other posters have picked out his policies?

Again post it
And if you can't, why can't you remember them from memory?

Could it be you have no clue what you are talking about and resort to "look it up" because you are mentally challenged?

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>>61131585
>my rich candidate is better than your rich candidate

>>61131440
>>61131712
>>61131424
Well cucks it's been fun. You really showed a deep understanding of Bernie Sanders' policies, gave a balanced, rational criticism which you tried to do with the most objective lens possible, you really showed a historical awareness and a knowledge of how modern social democracies work and most of all, you did it without insults, memes or logical fallacies.

Nah I'm fuckin around. You behaved as typical white trash blue collar peasants who are so extensively conditioned in their thoughts and feelings that they might as well be regarded as cattle rather than people.

Please don't pollute the gene pool and I recommend that you all remove the testicles from your body so that you guarantee this doesn't happen for the good of everyone really.

>>61131748
Not really we sprung up from the recession due to th 160 tax cuts undertaken by harper

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>>61132130
>you will never be this assravaged
kek

>>61132130
Cya bernie

I feel morally obligated to vote for Bernie Sanders.

He's the only candidate that cares about the oppressed.

>>61132130
This idiot works under circular logic, i've met hundreds of this type here canada fuckin horrible

>>61132130
This idiot works under circular logic, i've met hundreds of this type here in canada fuckin horrible

>>61132054
You're not kidding anyone. Anyone who runs for president is already rich. You can't win as a poor person

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>>61132543

>>61132130
>a knowledge of how modern social democracies work
How do you think they work?

>>61132130
>liberals literally mocking the blue collar class for being beneath them
>the same people that think they're "fighting the power" and "fighting for the common people" are mocking the "common people" for choosing their own candidate instead of blindly listening to them because they think they know what's best for poor people

Do they even realize what they're doing, or are their heads too far up their own asses?

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>>61132130
>You behaved as typical white trash blue collar peasants
This kind of thinking is unsurprising when it comes to Sanders supporters. The actual proletariat who have been the most greatly damaged by increasing regulatory market policies realize that in order to achieve economic prosperity once again and to ensure that the capital the wealthy are currently hoarding, we need to offer the greatest local context in order for business to thrive. The naive presumption that in order to ensure economic prosperity is to simply relocate and redistribute the capital of the wealthy and give it to the impoverished wont actually solve the fact that there is a very real lack of reinvestment and small/big business are outsourcing their cheap labor which should be reserved to local citizens to illegal immigrants and across seas. Creating artificial federal jobs aren't real jobs and do not aid with the formation of more private business, since you're literally taking the money of the workers and giving it back to them through wages and does not create prosperity.

Social programs, like his promise for youth programs in which he'll attempt to ensure that the low Millennial Human Capital will be somehow raised by creating a centralized system doesn't ensure anything. As we've seen countless times before, even anti-bullying programs, bullying does not stop. If you want to address the fact youths do not have the necessary skills to assume labor positions, get rid of minimum wage, get rid of the Welfare State, and ensure that these youths are FORCED to learn trade skills. If we remove minimum wage and make sure small business is able to thrive in local competitive markets, or even big business opportunities like Maccas being able to hire more youths (but universally at a cheaper wage because of the fact employers can't pay their employees more than what they produce), we'll see vast long term benefits.

(to be continued...)

>>61126571
>US citizens per capita pay roughly 3x as much on healthcare than canadians.
we have spics who use emergency services for free.

the hospitals would have gone broke if they didnt start raising prices.

>>61132130


>>61134517
There's a reason blacks are so impoverished and have a vast lack of necessary trade skills. The solution isn't giving them money, it's to ensure that the rich will reinvest that capital in order to ensure they'd actually have the employment available to them in order to prosper. A short term solution to a problem you're kind caused cannot and will not work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5TS8QUJWXo

http://www.hoover.org/research/economics-lesson-bernie-sanders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJCeoFxrDn0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi8clPrg7kc

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2015/09/22/newsflash--bernie-sanders-fans-all-that-free-stuff-will-break-the-middle-class-n2055205/page/full

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrHW1E8hRI

http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2016/01/13/minimum-wage-dishonesty-n2102804/page/full

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi-D24oCa10

>inb4 Scandinavia/Europe
I'll gladly answer this, if you want.

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Poor old Bernie totally exposed! Caught with his pants down!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

>>61132130
Thanks for reminding me how utterly incapable of actual debate /pol/ is. This board is as much of a hugbox as reddit is. I'd hate to be in a country where I have to explain that public healthcare is not communism or leads to a welfare state.

>>61135236
Then actually debate with somebody, don't just complain about it.

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>>61132130
>My superior intellect and

>>61135478
Lad, what he wanted was for someone to directly quote some of the text in the bernie website's issues and explain why that part is horseshit. Instead he got cuck memes, insults and people uncapable of simply quoting and arguing a point. Making up strawman arguments and mocking them is NOT arguing.