Chinese force Taiwanese Girl into humiliation

>>61119330
chinks are retarded, more news at 4:20

That's fucked up. Disgracing our chinese overlords so.

>>61119330
Might have better luck posting this on >>>/news/, OP

In china's defense, the only reason Taiwan exists as an independent state is because the US implicitly supports its claim for independence. In reality, Taiwan should have been returned to China after the Cairo and Potsdam declarations.

Not chinese by the way, I minor in east asian studies and do a lot of chinese history.

holy fuck the dislikes

>>61119668
open a book

>>61119330
god i want to rape all her holes.

>>61119600
>>61119520
Taiwan votes soon. Independent party will probably win. Chink butthurt is at an all time high.

That being said, I bet Taiwan eventually loses independence just because the west is so shit and will decline so far they won't be able to stop China from doing so.

>>61119330
mess with the bull you get the horns

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>>61119668
The current year cuck supporter spotted.

>>61119711
No you

>>61119668
>In reality, Taiwan should have been returned to China after the Cairo and Potsdam declarations.
>I minor in east asian studies

More evidence of university brainwashing. Taiwan #1.

It's like a whole other parallel world going on over there in gookland. And I still don't care about any of it.

>>61119330
Lived in Taiwan for a while, it's so much better than China. I hope China gets nuked.

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Here is the scene

You can see the offensive Taiwan flag in the upper middle.

>>61119949
Actually I have a pretty rare opinion on the subject. Most western scholars are pro taiwan because "democracy" and probably have some sort of bias or favoritism towards it.

>>61120018
What land do you care for? Saudi Europe? Saudi England? America, land of the hipsters,jews,blacks,feminists and mexicans?

>>61119330
This is China's new strategy for taking over Taiwan. They wont invade. Instead they will make Taiwan so economically dependent on china that independence will be impossible. Hong Kong style autonomy will be the best option.

>>61120207
They have an election tomorrow as well which could make some major changes.

>>61120157
Aah, so you're just a contrarian cuck?

Basically what happened is anti-taiwan independence people, which is all Chinese, used the event as an excuse to show off. China is extremely nationalist and believe the world loves them in terms of polling.

Chinese nationalism is most identical to the type in pre-ww2 europe and japan. With them taught from very young ages that Taiwan refused to fight off Japan and is basically like a child that forgets its parents. The reality is the Chinese nationalist party only lost to the communists because they tried to fight Japan instead of taking care of the communists.

Anyway, the taiwan press and chinese internet/government used the issue to push politics and blew it up incredibly. With millions of Chinese low class participating in the internet fight.

>>61120180
Pls take back Nicki Minaj.

>>61120157
So you're basically a retard.

I'm sure you say Alaska should be handed back to Russia or SW america to Mexico.

That's not how things work though.

>>61120329
basically this is all blowing up because of China upset Taiwan will probably elect a pro-independence government.

Although I'm not sure how angry chinese attacking a girl will translate into sympathy from Taiwan.

At some point they might be able to do it through force but their coercion skills are lacking.

>>61119668
>taiwan returned to the chinese
>returned

yeah, nah

>>61119330
It reminded me of teresa teng
sry for poor english

>>61120207
>Hong Kong autonomy
>literally anything but lip service

Hong Kong is as repressed as the mainland, should never have been given back.

>>61119520
>>61120406
Shut the fuck up if you don't know anything about the history and background of situation.

Chinese and Taiwanese is a matter between Han Chinese people.

So shut the fuck up retarded.

>>61119722
Bullshit. We are Gonna be great again.

>>61120369
No, I try to be objective. China has actual treaties to back up its claims to taiwan. Even the US openly says that there is one china and bar taiwan from the UN. They just find alternate means of building relations with it because they are dishonest and prefer to deny china taiwan if it isn't economically detrimental to themselves.

>>61120579
Tsai ing wen is the independence seeking candidate right?

>>61120617
It was literally a prefecture of fujian for centuries.

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>>61119330
Hmmm Why isn't the Host of the show being excommunicated. Supposedly he brought the flag.

Also fuck the whore China doesn't need her, she obviously needs China.

AKA talk shit about a country get rekt.

Same for mr. Trump. I don't see him making any friends in China. So if he ever becomes president. He either changes his opinion or USA won't get any MADE IN CHINA.

>>61120646
lel

What is it with chinks.

Also I'm pretty sure there are a lot of American navy ships that show it's not a matter between angry stupid chinks.

>>61120837
She didn't talk shit

She's just in the middle of a pissing contest between small-dicked angry chinks over an island.

>>61120714
>>61120834
Just answer me a simple question right now lad, what time is it where you are?

>>61119668

Damn right.

We will fuck the PRC up if they attack the sole legitimate government of all of China, the ROC.

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fuck china
TAIWAN STRONG

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>>61120617
>speaks Chinese
>looks like Chinese
>has the same dna of Chinese people
>was former island of china before ww2

>this americuck answer to the question if taiwan should be returned to china
"yeah, nah"

Based China. When the Western world falls to Islam, I can only hope the Chinese will kill them all and inherit the West.

>>61120406
It's actually kind of ironic; the china of today is the closest thing to chiang kai-shek's vision.

And yet /pol/ hates the most natsoc country on the globe

>>61120937
8:00 pm

>>61120990
>was former island of china before ww2

This assumes the communists are the legitimate government of China, they're not they're insurgents who won.

>>61119330
I hope they Gulag learnmrespect Glorious China!

>>61120990
Under this logic why isn't it the other way?

Taiwan has a higher standard of living and better quality of life. Why not just reunite China and Taiwan under Taiwan government?

Plus the Taiwanese government only lost to the communists because they focused too hard on fighting Japan.

>>61121107
Yeah, nice try you Vancouver commie chink.

>>61120834

It isn't anymore considering the PRC has never controlled it.

>>61121069
I don't hate China.

>>61120990

yurocucks stay cucked

>>61119330
She's clearly not a product of China.
If she were she would have burst into flames by now.

>>61121069
>PRC
>national socialist

ayy lmao

>>61121196
Governments change. Will the US stop being the US when a diffrent president is elected? No, because a country and its leadership are not synonymous. Even Taiwan doesn't seek to call itself china anymore.

>>61120406
a lot of chinese don't give a fuck about taiwan being independent or not. china is a large country and people do not think in the same way. stop pretending you know china

>>61120990
The Taiwanese don't want to be returned to China lol. That's like saying the US should be part of the UK. Do you always have to go to war to have independence? The Taiwanese people don't want to be ruled by the Communist party.

>>61121128
>>61121154

like it or not the communist regime is the LEGITIMATED government of china, the same government that has veto vote in the united nations with great diplomatic ties with the west

>>61121069
yea but they cut off a rapist nig muslims dick. angry mob style. the west just doesnt have that sense of justice anymore

and their government broke out a flame thrower when terrorist wouldnt come out. americas government doesnt have that level of dont give a fuck anymore

they had me at "cut that niggers dick off"

>>61119330
tell me how gook is human

>>61121445
lel
Are you sure 100% of Chinese aren't explained by my three sentences?

>>61121467
Yes, and those same western forces that pledge to protect Taiwan from invasion.

>>61121431
They don't call themselves China because the PRC sperglords whenever they do, The PRC is a force for evil in this world, they repress Hong Kong, their own citizens, everyone, it's disgraceful and they need to be toppled.

>>61121069
>The most natsoc country on the globe

You gone full retard, son.

>>61121195
I wish. Montreal is fucking cold.

>chinese people
>humans
Pick one.

>>61121450
Fucking trash. If you don't know the Chinese history then please just shut it.

>>61121694
Remind me the part of history that would make Taiwan want to be under the CCP.

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>>61121431
>Governments change. Will the US stop being the US when a diffrent president is elected?

Not even remotely the same and you either know that or are retarded(biased).

>Even Taiwan doesn't seek to call itself china anymore.

Because they're Taiwanese at this point. The mainland is under the PRC and only a few old people even care to still try and claim it and mongolia etc etc.

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>>61121611
well it looks like I am talking to a wall

go to school retard

and if she doesn't want to perform in china, she does not have to apologize. it is not like chinese government can go over the strait and grab her, chinese govn does not have that power

>>61119668
>Taiwan should have been returned to China

It really isn't your, or any mainland Chinese who has never set foot on the Island yet shitposts about unification, decision. This decision ultimately belongs to the people who were born on Taiwan, and it is our duty to honor any decision they actually make. The people do have a right to self determination under the UN treaty.

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>>61119330

Sorry, I caught none of that.

>>61120646
Squinty eyed Communist detected.

Taiwan would rather rejoin Japan than China.

Chinese are stupid just as westerners are. Obsessing and dramatizing over what celebrities and entertainers think.

>>61121944
If the majority of her viewers, and therefore income, are from china, then yes she does have to apologize if she wants to keep working

>>61122036
Should tell that to the Hong Kong people.

>>61120714
> China has actual treaties to back up its claims to taiwan.

And taiwan is a de facto independant nation, started as a legitimate state but reduced to this Island after a war with current China. Their people have their own culture and vastly opposing political views.
The people gives a shit about whatever piece of papers were signed involving mostly totalitarian states and what not.

Also, right to self determination overrules everything.

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>>61122124
what is ww2 retard

>>61121944
how did you find this thread?

Also it's obvious. She's a 16 yo pop star, she probably doesn't give a fuck either way. Her company tells her what to do. It's not like she decided to hold the flag or not.

You're acting like this person has anything to do with anything.

The whole point is to just show how retarded Chinese netizens are over something stupid.

>>61122124
funny, I always thought of Japan as bro tier and china as axis of evil, but when i went to them both recently
>China was super friendly, almost bent backwards for hospitality
>japan mostly screamed "GO AWAY GAIJIN"
I seriously have to rethink my position.

>>61122170
>US was strong enough in 1949 to enforce it's will on the PRC.
>UK wasn't in 1997
>Taiwan now lives free and happy
>Hong Kong seven different degrees of fucked

Feels bad, mang.

>>61121944
You underestimate kpopfags

>>61122235
Go to Taiwan. They love Japan. They wish they were Japanese. Only the KMT who ran to Taiwan to escape being slaughtered would want to become Chinese again.

>>61121925
I disagree, I think the chinese nation can exist independently of the state. But this argument is pointless anyways since the prc has legal precedent to take Taiwan.

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>>61119330
What a qt, I feel bad for her.

>>61121944
> chinese govn does not have that power
Ahh... americans

>>61122235
Taiwan, not the fleeing Chinese, was a colony under Japan and treated extremely well. Especially compared to how they treated other areas. So actually, Taiwanese people don't actually hate Japan.

In a public opinion poll conducted by the organization’s Taipei office during December 2009 and January 2010, 52% of respondents cited Japan as their favorite country after Taiwan, and 62% indicated an affinity for Japan. In a subsequent survey conducted from January to February of 2012, some ten months after the 2011 Great East Japan Earthquake, only 41% of those polled named Japan as their favorite nation but 75% said they felt close to the country. In the most recent survey, conducted in January 2013, 43% of respondents cited Japan as their favorite country; 65% indicated an affinity for Japan.

http://www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/a02204/

Taiwan is closer to Japan than China.

>apologizing to China
>ever

You just make them angrier. It's why Japan won't do it because it will "never be enough". Now JYP fucked themselves in the ass because the chinks who were mad are going to stay mad and the chinks who didn't give a shit are going to be mad at JYP for being such pussies about it and hiding behind a little girl.

>>61122036
The people of china? Because the US agrees that there is only one china and that taiwan is part of china.

>>61122446
>I disagree, I think the chinese nation can exist independently of the state

Means absoluely nothing.

>>61122446
>this argument is pointless anyways since the prc has legal precedent to take Taiwan.

lel if you say so family. I thank you for your capitulation.

>>61121558
yeah, not only do 100% chinese hate taiwan, they also 100% love trump.

let me tell ya the truth, taiwan is the center of the universe, every single human being listens to what taiwan says

>>61121766
The Island of Taiwan has been Chinese property for hundreds of years. Hundreds of old maps prove this.

>>61122115
Fat, balding, impotent fucker.

>>61122124
Idiot. It depends on the party who is popular. There are majority of Taiwanese who are loyal to China. Because it the end it is about China and unity of Han Chinese, not about PRC or ROC

>>61122174
>Taiwan
>own culture
Shut up. Please. Shut up if you don't know anything. Taiwan = China. Taiwan culture = Chinese culture.

>>61122174
See
>>61122594

Taiwanese rather become Japanese than Chinese.

Go and ask one in uni.

>I hate regional separatism and that bullshit
>but I hate commies too
I'm conflicted on this issue.

What can you expect from a people that blow torch dogs and cats for fun?

>>61122594
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwan

US really agrees with China.

>>61122502
>treated extremely well
taiwanese propoganda

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>>61122686
>There are majority of Taiwanese who are loyal to China.

Yea, the ones that came to Taiwan after losing their civil war with Mao. They aren't Taiwanese.

>>61122686
>Hundreds of old maps prove this.

Then give China to Mongolians because there are a lot of old maps which have it under Mongolian control.

Old maps don't mean anything.

>>61122439
they definiely love the japanese from wwii

Kpop is for autists, and you understand that they literally sell their bodies for entertainment.

No sympathy.

>>61122701
Anyone would rather be ANYTHING other than Chinese.

>>61122877
They literally did. They preferred the Japanese to the Chinese and hated the Chinese when they came and took over.

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>>61119668
>Returned to China

But ROC is the real China.

>>61122810
It's true.

Taiwan was a "model colony" for Japan. It was in 1895 and the first Japanese Colony. So the Japs treated them amazing and wanted to make it into an example of how great Japan was.

It was a very different experience to be under Japan in Taiwan versus later during WW2.

>>61121934
>>61121934
>>61121934
>mfw Texel Vlieland Terschelling Ameland en Schiermonnikoog all of a sudden want to become independant countries......

>>61121154
Under that same Idea of yours Lets say Hawaii Rather wanted to become its own independant Country. Japan and the rest of Asia back this claim and USA wouldn't do nothing or wouldn't be pissed about this if it came through because of keeping some peace. Then Obama enters a fucking popshow and picks up a Hawaiian flag and says America is a fucking shithole and Hawaii is the True Dream.

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>"there is only one China, Taiwan and China are part of the same country. I have always been proud of my identity as a Chinese".

VERY clever wording.

These Taiwanese government officially calls themselves "The Republic of China" and they still claim to be the legitimate rulers of all of China. Much like The People's Republic of China claims to be the legitimate rules of all China.

So by saying this she's not really supporting the People's Republic even though they have been fooled into thinking she is.

In her mind she is Chinese because ROC is the true China.

>>61119330
South Korea is cucked as well it seems

>>61122502

While I agree that you are correct. I wouldn't go as far to say that Japan treated Taiwan well when they first took rule. Wushe Incident and the various battles between the Japanese and aboriginal people were quite bloody.
over the years the Japanese brought education and health benefits to the aboriginal people though they also brainwashed the younger generation to believe in the Japanese imperial ideals.

>>61123040
This happens though. It's what the West did with all of their colonies post ww2.

There is no one "true owner" of a land. If no one gave up their land like you said then Hong Kong would still have a british flag flying over it.

>Any Asia country other than Japan
>Act mature

Hahaha. No.

These are people who still cry about 'Nanking' and Manchuria. Chinese/Korean dog is worst loser in all of Asia.

America nuke us and we fucking let that go.

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>>61122830
>Han Chinese that fled to taiwan after the civil war are different than the first Han Chinese settlers


>american education

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>>61120837
Trump wants to put a 45% import tax on china shit. Go sell your toxic garbage to some other country you dumb gook.

>>61123173
I'll never know if real or proxy.

>>61122790
Arms sales and the TRA act contradict its explicit and official rhetoric. The US does not recognize an independent taiwan and so the self determination argument is void.
If the us disagreed with china, taiwan would be admitted in the un

>>61121345
Topkek

>>61123167
also

>be freed from Japanese rule
>immediately rely on Imperial Japan style propaganda to legitimize government

>>61123007
Except all the elites were japanese and the native population was repressed like in every other colonial situation.

>>61121634
>>61121345

Is he wrong? Their economy is more or less fascistic.

>>61123236

Real.

Retard American pawn, Shinzo Abe, still try to get closer relation with China.

World will soon see what asshole China is, then they will wish we finish job.

I was expecting somebody to suck dog penis what a letdown.

>>61121515
tell me how slav is human

>>61123170
>It hasn't...

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>KMT are original rulers of China
>CCP has civil war with KMT
>KMT retreats to island of Taiwan
>CCP takes mainland chinese land by force
>CCP cannot conquer Taiwan.

How is this even a question?

Following this it's very obvious that Taiwan is an independent nation by the virtue of CCP not being able to conquer them.

Just because CCP defeated the KMT on the mainland doesn't mean that the KMT stops existing and should cede their land to CCP. Do chinks not understand war and territory changes?

>>61123251
Obviously someone stuck in the ivory cloud.

The EXPLICIT REALITY is that Taiwan has an independent government and is protected by US military assets from any invasion by China.

UN and international decorations are window dressing.

The reality is China and Taiwan have TWO independent governments and USA military power is on the side of keeping it this way.

Does USA allow China to save face and promote neutrality between the two sides by "freezing" tensions? Yes.

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>>61119330
The Chinese will pay for this through a 45% tariff.

>>61123227
We'll see how far you guys will go withou chinashit.....
PROTIP: 80% of the worlds goods have one part or the other in it that is MADEINCHINA.
Good luck paying 45% TAX to your gov for every lil thingy you want to buy...

Also Trump is a Cuck he can't even grow bald and not stress about it.

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Taiwan is about to have a big landside victory for the pro-Taiwanese Independence party (green).

Tsai Ing-Wen has stated she wants to stop Taiwan from having their businesses' manufacturing be done on the mainland, and will push hard for international recognition of Taiwan as a fully independent nation.

Keep in mind, Election Day is TOMORROW.

>>61122686
>>61122689
>>61122594
Shit, both of you can't you be more obvious? We all know you chinks are butthurt because some Island chinks have their own form of government and ideas and you never managed to conquer them. Alright.

We also know that the people there are refugees from a traditional china before your supreme leader went in and started a cultural and economic revolution that cost you 40 millions lives and much of your old millennia old heritage.
Both reasons enough for them to be a state, especially since they all want to remain independent, which by UN standards means right to self determination.

Btw try to invade Taiwan and see how the US responds. Let's see if they really think there's one China or if they send their massive fleet to kick you right back to your commie distopia.

>>61122752
>Montenigger
>Hates regional separatism

Return to Serbia then, filth. You're slightly better than Kosovo.

>>61123660
You do know that 45% import tax means that you are paying it right.....

>>61123744
I am a Serb though. Montenegro is a product of commie brainwashing, and didn't I say I hate commies?

>>61123789
More like no one will be buying it.

Taiwanese chinks are still chinks

>>61122967
"Taiwan is a sovereign and independent country. Any change in the status quo must be decided by all residents of taiwan by means of a plebiscite"
Chen shui-bian, 1999

The roc stopped pretending to be china in the early 90s because they realized the prc was there to stay.

>>61123712
this

the Tzuyu/kpop show is just some shit caught in the crossfire. Taiwan media goaded the Chinese netizens with inflammatory articles into attackign Tzuyu over it.

Which makes China look awful and riles up all the pro-independence.

This is a huge political blunder by China and does nothing for Taiwan/China relations.

>>61123744
kosovo is like taiwan

a made up identity

>>61119792

Wouldn't. Those elephant ears would have any future offspring looking like chink Obamas

The Chinese are right.

Stupid kpop deserves to die

Why does America gaurentee Taiwan's independence in treaties with military force but not recognise Taiwan's independence politically?

>>61123789
It means all our shit will be made somewhere else. Not a big deal. Also won't happen.

>>61119330
Nothing wrong with this at all

Taiwan belongs to China, by the right of many legally binding treaties

>>61123546

But blah blah blah chinese state and chinese people are different things blah blah just hand over Taiwan to the glorius peoples republic so I can get my 50 cents. So much easier to bullshit some dumb poor farmer.

>>61123546
chewy must be turned into a comfort woman for everything to be cool

>>61122321
Thank Thatcher, she should of promised Hong Kong to the ROC.

>>61123961
Because the UN and weird flag waving events are the most important thing. USA just forgot about that and focused on military might.

Hurry and go remind them that Taiwan isn't a member of the UN.

Taiwan is De Facto independent and even if the US agreed to "return Taiwan" China would still have to fight a brutal war to reclaim the Island. A war they possibly could lose. The Taiwanese military is not small beer by any stretch.

And considering how China is treating Hong Kong, there is absolutely no way in hell the Taiwanese would agree to peaceful reunification.

>>61124006
Are you from Vancouver?

>>61123872
>no one will be buying it....
>you can get your shit somewhere else

Where India perhaps...

I so fucking hope Trump wins. Its been long since 9/11 I haven't had a good laugh about you guys fucking up your own country for a long time.

>>61123906
No that's Montenegro.
Kosovo is Albanian and they are different people.

>>61124121
99% chance that poster is Chinese

>>61124096
Better to nuke taiwan then

>>61124006

Lawful treaties are meaningless if the people involved refuse to recognize them. In this case, the people involved are the people of Taiwan. They'll post your precious treaty to a rocket and launch it at a any Chinese troop formation that shows up to enforce it.

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she's only 16 but would you have sex with her?

>>61124196

Why?

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>>61119668
China should be returned to Taiwan you fucking retard, they are the legitimate government of the Chinese mainland, the communists literally seized power through violent upheaval.

Chiang Kai-shek and the Kuomintang reunited China during the Northern Expedition, formed a unified government, then the communist terrorists overthrew them and chased them into Taiwan while they were weakened by the war with Japan.

There is no argument for Taiwan being "returned" to the communists, it never once even belonged to them.

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>>61122468

Lots of Taiwanese girls look like this with large circle lenses and hipster glasses.

I had a classmate in chinese class whose parents were from taiwan and she told me that when she went there three years ago, the amount of young good looking taiwanese girls is like five times the amount of young good looking taiwanese guys

EVERYONE, QUICK! MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS AND FEIGN SHOCK! SHE(!) IS YOUNG AND CUTE, SO BE EXTRA OFFENDED!

>>61124262
Wait, is her being 16 supposed to make it less appealing to have sex with her?

>>61123236
Nuke it. Again. From orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

>>61124096
basically

At least for the foreseeable future they will be independent. When dynamics shift significantly there might be something new but Taiwan is independent as any other country now.

>>61124121
Calgary

>>61124254
Then I guess people shouldn't recognize them as a nation

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China is the center of the world, so all nations on earth are vassals of China, lawfully.

>>61120990
A majority of Taiwanese speak Hokkien, Taiwan was originally inhabited by Pingpu and Geoshan (who are related to Filipinos and Indo-Malays) for 8,000 years before Qing colonized the Island in the 17th century, and the Island was recognized as part Japan after WW2 until 1952 when Japan renouced sovereignty over Taiwan and signed a treaty with the RoC recognizing all it's inhabitants to be citizens of the RoC, not PRC.

>>61124023
>"Oh no you have bested me in a war but have not managed to conquer my territory completely. I better hand over all my remaining territory and stop existing. Can't wait to trade my first world standard of living and become a chinese third world shithole"

This is literally the logic of people who support China on this.

>>61123730
Daily reminder to ignore pro-Chinese posts from Canada and Australia, "Mexican immigrants work hard" posts from America, German posts defending Turks, "Sikhs are bro-tier" posts from Canada, and every post that comes from Japan.

>>61124412

Actually, the ability to enforce your sovereignty against in external aggressor is the primary proof you are an independent nation.

>>61124262
not sure until you post her feet

>>61124379
it never happen as nanking

O WAIT...

>>61119668
>In reality, Taiwan should have been returned to China after the Cairo and Potsdam
I come into your house and set up shop.
You flee to the house next door.
I now claim the house next door.

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>>61119668
>I minor in east asian studies
I will have a grande caramel macchiato

>>61124262
Hurrr, ur a pedo for liking a sexually mature and ready to breed female.

>>61124508

>this

>>61124516
By that standard, the only 4 independent nations are America, Russia, China, and India.

>ITT: Communist sympathizers

ROC real China all day erryday

>>61124508
the /pol/ red-pill

>>61124357
UGUU ANIME MOSHI MOSHI TOYOTA SAMURAI SAMSUUUUUUUUUUUUUNG!

>>61121128
This Taiwan is the rightful government that fled China under rebel forces China should be given back to Taiwan UN invasion force when.

>>61119668
When will Canada return to the Chinese?

>>61122686
>The Island of Taiwan has been Chinese property for hundreds of years.

Well since Taiwan hosts the Kuomintang party who are the real rulers of China I agree.

All of Chinese land should be returned to Taiwan.

>>61121431
>Governments change
>Implying the regime change was legitimate
>Implying those that didn't want to live under the previous regime didn't have a right to self determination

Eric X. Li please go. This level of PRC shilling is shameful. Did you get fired from the CFR?

>>61124641

The ability to enforce your sovereignty does not mean the ability to always win. I can guarantee if the US Army went over the Mexican or Canadian borders tomorrow body bags full of US troops will start coming back the day after, even if the overall outcome is a foregone conclusion.

>>61120646
Butthurt Chinaman detected. Eat shit, Wang: Taiwan is a sovereign nation and we will back them up, along with Japan, if you fuckers get too frisky

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>>61124196
Taiwan doesn't have nukes. If China really wanted to they could without the risk of nuclear war, but the rest of the world would be hella pissed off.

>>61124262
yes, but let's be realistic that would never happen

>>61124336
word there's a lotta Taiwanese cuties out there

>>61123548
You're right. But the us isn't being fair or honest. It's lying and supporting taiwan only out of its personal interests against what should actually be the case.

Regardless, given a rising china and declining us, the us government is increasingly reluctant to give taiwan a hand. Ma knows this and is why he seeks closer ties with china, along with economic reasons

>>61119668
I bet Taiwanese rather be part of Japan then china.

Who wouldn't.

>>61124452
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese

notice that 98% of taiwan's population is chinese?

>>61124508
Oh shit you're right. Just check these up.

>>61124357
>>61124196
>>61124357
>>61123955

And I could go on and on. Just how many chinks are living in Canada and Australia today?

>>61124768
Ping Pong Pan post elsewhere.

>>61124549
He said minor you fucking autist. It's what educated people do on the side for personal enrichment. I know it's an alien concept to a fucking retarded college drop out like you, but yeah.

>>61124768
So is Chinatown, New York. Does that mean it belongs to China?

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>>61124262
>only 16
>only

Jesus christ america

>>61120646

Oh, so it's only a matter for 40% of the Chinese population? I swear, the Northern Chinese are the biggest cunts in the world. You think White Supremacists are bad, the KKK doesn't have shit on the Han.

>>61124684
The Bongs and colonists CONQUERED redskin abos in America and Canada. The defeated have no rights.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-army-declares-internet-war-2015-5

>"With the existence of the network, the ideological front has been completely thrown open ... National security has become an important component part of our country’s overall security 'chessboard.' It may be said that without cybersecurity, there is no national security."

>>61124855
There is no point arguing. They are Chinese.

Very low likelihood they have the ability to critically think on this issue. You are just going to get the canned lines they have been raised learning.

>>61119600
underrated

>>61124903
PRC didn't defeat the ROC though. ROC fled to where the PRC couldn't reach.

>>61124820
Shitposts aside, this is fucking stupid.

So I don't think Tzuyu is to blame, though JYP is to blame because he made multiple apologies that attempted to shift the blame elsewhere
"Our Tzuyu is too young to form an opinion on Taiwan"

It's just fucked up that it had to come to this, because it's made it so much worse on both sides

Korea will side with Twice, though Taiwan won't be happy, China will continue to get pissed and will only be okay when Tzuyu gets kicked from Twice

>>61119330
man shes a fucking cutie

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>Patriots defeat Britain in American war of independence
>Therefore Britain should cede it's territory to America and stop existing

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>>61124855

>>61124962
And so true.

>>61124820
Top kek, I'm not Chinese. I think they are the fucking scum of the earth. I was just noting how much extra controversy and attention this case has received, strictly because it happened to an attractive young female.

>>61125002
They are defeated, a cucked shadow of their original self only dreaming of retaking China with nothing to back it up. Let the green coalition win and end this misery one way or another

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>>61124893
> Being a literal pedophile

The point here isn't that Taiwan and China should be separate and independent nations. The point is that the Republic of China is the legitimate government of China and should be preserved, and anyone who says otherwise is filthy Commie scum.

>>61125041
how can feminists even compete? what a fucking qt ill marry her in a second... and procreate with.

are they into white handsome Mexicans?

>>61120990
>Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, and much of Canada speak English
>look British
>has the same DNA as British
>were mostly still British territories before WW1

Should all former British colonies of manly British descent be returned to the UK by this logic?

>>61124744

The consequences for China would indeed be dire if they nuked Taiwan. Using Nukes against an unarmed state is literally rabid dog scenario in international relations. You risk making everyone forcibly put you down. At the very least China would be expelled from the United Nations and face North Korea level economic sanctions and financial asset seizures.

At the Very worst, following their expulsion from the UN, the Security Council would adopt a war resolution and everyone would pile onto China like it was the Boxer Rebellion again.

>>61125120
It's a non issue but was brought up because of the election. She is just a pawn in the whole thing and the people who originated it are Chinese nationalists who thought it would help their cause somehow.

Reality is it's just pissing off Koreans and Taiwanese people against China. While the Chinese nationalist pat themselves on the back about how they got the apology etc.

>>61119330
Taiwan is a rebellious province that is led by a fascist government.

The US has no reason to support it other than stupid Cold War policies.

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>chinks are still this assblasted over taiwan

>>61124768
As a result of chinese colonization in the 17th century, the Chinese are not native to Taiwan, and again 70% of Taiwanese speak Hokkien and Japan ceeded Taiwan to the ROC in 1952, not PRC.

Also not to take China's side

But JYP was fucking stupid to say that Tzuyu is too young and naive to form an opinion

Yet old enough to sexualise in a commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoYy0wBGg_g

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>>61125120
>I'm not Chinese. I think they are the fucking scum of the earth.

rude desu

>t-those fucking chinks a-amirite guise?
>meanwhile US loses shit over confederate flags


lmao

also does Hong Kong get the same treatment when they use their flower flag?

>>61125173
They obviously aren't defeated considering they exist and almost all of Taiwan wants absolutely nothing to do with PRC.

>>61119330

Is she apologizing for KPOP? If she is then this is not enough, she should be executed. Also fuck Taiwan

>>61125207
>Canada
>manly British descent

tips hat

>>61119330
This is so fucking Orwellian.

Fuck China.
And fuck this traitor bitch for bowing down to them.

>>61125232
And China is a fucking oligarchy

>>61125282
Sorry Zhang, but that's just how I feel.

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>>61125305
Because one exists and the other does not anymore.

Sadly....

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>>61124765
The Japanese built this back when Taiwan was a Japanese colony. The Taiwanese still love Japan and distrust China.

>>61124846

t. starbucks junior manager

>>61125330
Maybe as a public figure she should watch her actions and how they effect other people

>>61125232
The PRC is a Communist shithole that has murdered millions. The US supports Taiwan because it's the last vestige of democracy of China and because fuck commushits.

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>>61125382

show butt

I don't think anyone has posted the translation of the video yet so I will.


>"Hello everyone. I have something to say to all of you. I am Tzuyu. I'm sorry, I should have apologized earlier. I didn't dare to face all of you earlier because I didn't know how to react to the current situation. There is only one China, Taiwan and China are part of the same country. I have always been proud of my identity as a Chinese. As a Chinese, during my activities in China, due to my words and actions, I have caused harm to my company and to netizens. I feel very sorry and ashamed. I have decided to suspend all my activities in China and reflect on my actions. Once again, I'm very very sorry."

She has basically been forced by her record label to deny the existence of her nation and people.

>>61125259
They are ethnically chinese.
It was ceded to "china" not any particular government

>>61120990
>didn't destroy their own culture
>not a communist shithole
>actually China
The "People's" "Republic" of "China" can go fuck itself.

>>61125328
At least that's what their official demographics say, and what their most common family names imply.

>>61120990
This is so fucking stupid.
We should be an Italian colony following that logic. Or Quebec should be French.
Belarus should be Russian.
And so on.

You are a fucking retard.

>>61125120
This is just fuel to the fire, just more shit for both sides to talk about. People have been debating this every day for a while, not because of a celebrity.

>>61125231
I'm glad that their economy is in the toilet tbph. Hopefully they'll stop being the massive cunt of Asia once they lose face.

>>61125232
>rebellious
PRC literally NEVER ONCE occupied Taiwan, they have absolutely no claim on it. It's like calling Japan a "rebellious province" of Korea or something.

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>>61125462

>>61125260
it's to save face you retard. it flatters the party while chalking up the error to something as non-serious as youthful ignorance. god how can you be so basic and post on a politics board

>>61119668
>Not chinese by the way
Ok sure ;^)

>>61125176
isnt 16 legal in most states too tho

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Mainland Chinese pretty much ruin the international reputation of other developed east Asian countries because of the uncivilized manner in which most of them act. Not to mention how brainwashed people in the PRC are, note that the outrage from this event came from the regular citizens from mainland china, the government wouldn't want to have any part of it because they know its retarded, but they have more than enough uneducated, nationalistic civilians ready to spread the outrage. I went to Beijing in ~04 and its pretty crazy how brainwashed they are, probably only outdone by Best Korea.

>>61119668
>not chinese
>that flag

You will have to pick one.

>>61125232
>rebellious province
>legally recognized as Japanese after WW2 and ceeded to the RoC by the Treaty of Taipe in 1952

>>61125465
She should have told the commies to pound salt up their asses and joined a Japanese JPOP group. The Jap right wingers would love her.

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Reminder to support Tzuyu because she's extra cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcF_bFLgzWc

>>61125518
I know, but it isn't so much about the celebrity, but rather about the demographic and societal worth of the victim in question. It's sort of like when a person goes missing - the cases with the most attention are those concerning young attractive women.

>>61122446
>the prc has legal precedent to take Taiwan.

Then why don't they? They took the rest of China by force, why not Taiwan.

Obviously they can't because they will then be at war with the US. So instead the PRC just want the final piece of China handed over to them for free, completing their conquest of China.

>>61125260

You don't need to have cognitive ability to be a sex idol anon. She could be 8, but if no one knows and she has the body of an 18 year old no one will care

>>61125617

For years they thought the health warning the US embassy was issuing to American tourists in Beijing about the pollution was just baseless propaganda.

I don't think they could wrap their heads around the concept that the American Government actually cared about the health of its citizens, and that as a consequence, the Chinese Government did not. Because the Chinese government was not issuing the same warnings.

About that...

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>>61125578

What are you afraid of, fuckboi?

>>61121128

So they followed the proud Chink tradition of overthrowing the other guy and claiming the Mandate.

Sounds legit to me.

>>61125617
>Mainland Chinese pretty much ruin the international reputation of other developed east Asian countries

Not like they care. They did this shit during most of their history and been waiting for decades to be strong enough to continue to do so. Other asian countries are like ants for them.

>>61122967
Should britain be returned to the united states?

>>61125715
>seduced by asian women over aryan women
Wew lad fuck you

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>>61124367
>>61124574
>>61124893
i'm 42. how old are you guys?

>>61125071
I notice you didn't answer the question. Do you believe China has a claim to Chinatown?

>>61125866

Clearly. As the the insurgent overlord of what is now the largest portion of the British Empire (STFU CANADA!!) we are clearly the legitimate successors of said Empire. Its about time the tiny wayword island of Brittania was returned to its rightful rulers.

>>61125715
K-pop is really offensive to the ear. Even japanese idol is much better.

>>61125769
they called it fog

top kek

It's a good plan though but sucks for the pawns

>>61124540
Taiwan wasn't a separate entity until Chiang Kaishek retreated and fortified himself there with American naval support. It's like saying the Confederacy should have been allowed to take over and keep Hawaii as a separate state had they managed to retreat there after losing the American Civil War.

Poor girl. She is a bit scared.

>>61119330
How did something like this get past the producers?

>>61125875
When Aryan women start behaving proper I'll let them seduce me.

>>61125746
>final
Like they wont start demanding Mongolia, parts of Siberia, and parts of northern India next.

>>61125510
Belarus is set to be annexed by Russia and has been since 1996; the only thing holding it up is Lukashenko wanting to have his own personal dictatorship; As soon as he dies Russia will grow bigger.

>>61126011
Was some random low rating korean show

Like local TV style, no budget etc.

>>61126033
>he thinks asian women act properly
Lmao m80

>>61125999
If they had naval support from the strongest nation in the world then why not

>>61126011
It was in South Korea, and they don't care about main land China until it hurts their pocket books. Just a bad case of improper planning that mainland China would be children over the Taiwanese flag being shown

>>61125746
>>61126065
Yep, China has land disputes with pretty much everyone in the region.

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When pro-independence wins tomorrow will it finally be the end of "I'm the real China", "No I am!"

Taiwan needs to get it's self an independent identity that is completely separate from China.

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>>61125475
>regime change destroys culture
>a country that ive never visited is a shithole
>muh evil communism

>>61125510
>hurr durr your stupid because i dont agree with you

the only reason a country like taiwan exist is because americans recognised the regime to spite communism from spreading the region

>>61119949
got the original vid?

>>61126009
She might have just ended her entire entertainment career. Good luck getting signed to any sort of deal when your name is basically a Chinese boycott guarantee.

The only reason Chingchongland is red is because of Soviet intervention.

Americans should never have allowed it to happen.

>>61125999
It would be more correct if it was the North that was forced to retreat but for all intents and purposes that would be the case.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2015/07/26/2003623930

Only 9% of Taiwanese want to be part of China.

Honestly PRC is just butthurt because Taiwan is higher average wealth.

From Forbes:

>A clear majority (65.2%) of those polled — 1,079 valid samples from 20 cities and counties – preferred to maintain today’s political status quo of de facto independence. However, when only given “independence” or “unification” as the options, 68.9 percent would support independence, while 17.1 percent said they would support unification with China.

Taiwan is doing better don't want to be part of you.

>>61126093
How did it get past her manager? You'll expect her manager to make sure she don;t go and fuck over her biggest audience.

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>tfw no average korean waifu

>>61123906
But that's wrong.

Imagine if the United Soviet States of America was in a civil war with the United States of America, and by some ridiculous timeline fuckery the Soviet Union managed to support them to victory, forcing the USA to only occupy Alaska.

After 50 years of shitty commie rule, you wouldn't say that Alaska was a made up entity and should be given back to the filthy commie USSA.

>>61119330
so this is how you troll China? by displaying a Taiwanese flag?

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>>61124846
>I touched a soft spot
I minored in nanoscience. You compliment your major with it. It's not a hobby club. You have to pay for it.

>>61125999

This is a bad analogy, or a very good analogy, but not in the way you want.

Hawaii, like Taiwan, had a large indigenous population with their own rulers, and like Taiwan, Hawaii was occupied by a colonial expansion from the mainland. Claims of Sovereignty are never cut and dry, and "historical claims" do not carry the same weight to the claims of the people who are physically living in an area.

For you nerds, this is why you lose a core in EU IV after 50 years of failing to maintain control of an imperial province. Taiwan, like Hawaii, is an Imperial province. Unlike Hawaii, Taiwan has managed its own independent affairs with no control from by the claiming overlord.

>>61124304
IIRC didn't China gave Taiwan to Japan in the past? It's also the main reason why during WW2, many Taiwanese wanted to fight for Japan

It's shit like this that makes me agree with MacArthur about nuking China in the 50's

>>61126201
Like I said, she should join a JPOP group and target the Japanese market. The Japs hate China, and love Taiwan (it used to be a colony and was never "raped" like Nanking). She would be a huge celebrity in Japan for standing up to the commies.

>>61126227
Ultimately it will not be their decision to make.

>>61123697
Chinese manufacturing is consistently worthless and overseen by comically dishonest people.
US manufacturing is returning.
Price-competitive US alternatives exist for almost every Chinese product.
This is held back by groupthink and by placement, but there are essentially activist groups that encourage you to look for the US equivalent.
And then there's the looming normality of 3-D printing.
The Chinese manufacturing boom was only ever possible because of now-permanently-gone relative price advantage. Now it us returning to US and Mexico because the Pacific Ocean is rather wide.
China is an evil system dedicated to inferiority. A victory for the PRC is a humiliation for the human race to include Chinese humans.

>>61126214
Truman was a pussy

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>>61126201
She can still get a job as my gf

>>61121154
Because six gorillion PRC chinks and their cucked western supporters are deluded enough to think that since the shitty communist party rules mainland they also have the right to rule Taiwan.

>>61126322
Producer probably told some prop guy to give each one a flag from their country and the prop guy got that flag because he thought people were reasonable and capable of rational thought so they wouldn't get butthurt over something so trivial and gave it to her and she used it cause she does what she is told.

>>61126348
>but thats wrong

making up a fake identity is wrong, theres no such thing as "taiwanese"

>>61126133
Actually, I'm basically of the same mind on the matter: a country has the right to exist if it is able to enforce its right to exist. But that also means having to accept the PRC as the rulers of Taiwan when they take Formosa/Taiwan back through coercive means.

>>61126449
Quite right. Government cannot derive legitimacy from the consent of the governed. It's just like how, if I am a rapist who is stronger than you, it's not your consent to give. We should just let the powerful do whatever they want because it's not like that's the reason China has been a broken hellhole for most of its existence.

>>61125465
Well she is Chinese dude. Taiwanese people are Han Chinese.

>>61123697
No you'll be the ones paying the tax you slant eyed dog eater, the point is that things will no longer be poorly made in china by illiterate ape people but made properly by white people.

>>61125808

That's actually probably how their reasoning goes.

Does she fluent korean or does she have a Chinese accent that koreans find hot?

>>61126227
I wonder if the poll asked them whether "unification" meant "unification under ROC

>>61125344
China's government works, though.

>>61125459
>The PRC is a Communist shithole that has murdered millions
Proof?

>The US supports Taiwan because it's the last vestige of democracy of China
Oh yeah, Chiang Kai Shek was totally democratically elected. Dumb canuck.

>>61125575
Untrue, it was liberated from the Japanese by the PRC.

>>61125692
Completely untrue. Liberated before bombing of Hiroshima.

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>>61119668
go build my railroad chang

>>61119330
Fuck Taiwan. Its full of criminals who spend all day hacking away at US businesses and persons on facebook trying to steal directly or with identity theft. They need the big Chinese dick in their asses to straighten them out.

>>61126576
>taiwanese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_people

>cuz my chink upbringing brainwashed me into it

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>>61126745
>white people want low cost factory jobs

>>61125176
US is the only country where the age is too high at 18 tbhq. Most the world is at 16, some even less but I think 16 alright.

>>61125600
I think Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, and some others are 16, with no limit on how much older a partner can be. Other states have 16 and 17 with acceptable age differences of 1-5 years. Actually not that many states are 18 and up as one might think, it's just that 18 is when the age difference limits disappear.

Most if not all the country was 16, but the blame can be placed on the moral crusades of the 1920s and 30s that lifted the age to 18 for many states.

>>61126576
Says the Spaniard.
No such thing as Chinese either, by the way. What you think of as Chinese is Han and it only technically covers second-rate races like Hokka and Mao and Uighurs.

>>61125617
True.
This is mostly instigated by one asshole, 黃安, a wash-up entertainer just wants some attention, and the MainLand Chinese give him plenty since he is a huge asshole to Taiwan.

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>>61126701
That doesn't mean she owes allegiance to a fucking Communist flag. Nationalists are the legitimate government of all of China, including the Mainland.

>>61119668
Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Taiwan is rightful ROC clay.
Don't worry though, eventually old rich people will sell her out, just like Hong Kong.

>>61126174
That and the fact that the people there want to remain independent from a totalitarian dictatorship you fucking commie.

"Hello everyone. I have something to say to all of you. I am Tzuyu. I'm sorry, I should have apologized earlier. I didn't dare to face all of you earlier because I didn't know how to react to the current situation. There is only one China, Taiwan and China are part of the same country. I have always been proud of my identity as a Chinese. As a Chinese, during my activities in China, due to my words and actions, I have caused harm to my company and to netizens. I feel very sorry and ashamed. I have decided to suspend all my activities in China and reflect on my actions. Once again, I'm very very sorry."

won't taiwanese be mad now?