Look What I found in my attic photo album. These were from my grandfathers photo album. 82nd A/B. Title Says Wöbbelin
How can you guys deny the holocaust now??
Oven means nothing. It's a single person cremation oven. You think they disposed of 6 bazillion using one-person cremation ovens? And the Russians were the only ones who liberated the so called death camps, and they didn't allow pictures/videos to be taken.
>Where did he buy them, the Auschwitz gift shop?
Bullshit, here is his crap that fell out of the photo album.
ALL the pics are fake,it's been provin!!...jew fag!!
There are clearly people in there. 6million is a lie but, to say it never happened is stupid.
nice try. ripped this right out of the paper
Noice bait.....what,are they tiny jew fuck-asses?...
Damn it.....do we need to educate EVERY fuckin jew that comes on this board?...
There were approximately 6,000,000 Jews in Europe. Less than 1% of them survived the holocaust. Saying that 6,000,000 Jews died is just rounding, like we learned to do in school.
you're talkin in circles,asshole...6 mill,died,...1% lived to suck off 6 mill...we went to school...holahoax...school!...
Trisomic stormcuck detected. Those shops are so low quality it makes my eyes bleed.
Hint: I've worked typesetting in a print shop, there is no possible way those are original letters from press run.
hehehehe,....just look at General Patton,thoughts about the nasty jews!!...
I have some news for you.
Unless your grandfather wanted to remind himself of the horrible conditions there, he was probably a nazi who escaped with his pics to remind him of the good times.
seen it!....been saved!!,...cuck!!...but,thanks anyway!!
>Japs get interned
>Germans do U.S land invasion and start by bombing the supply lines and railroads
>Japs can't get food or DDT for delousing
>Japs contract Typhus and begin to die of starvation and malnutrition
>Rails are down so the Japs have to walk all the way to another internment camp that is able to get food and meds
In this hypothetical situation, the Japs are obviously interned so they could die, we were at war the Japs after all and said we would kill every last one of them, so we rounded them up and they began dying in droves from Typhus and hunger, then we death marched them to finish them off and cover it up.
Cuz,it never happened the way,they said it did,...fuckin,JEWS!!!
what happen to all the cucks that were just takin shit?....SHOW ME PROOF OF THE GAS CHAMBER?....PLEASE!!!
>ITT we discover that OPs grandfag was a kike propagandist.
The photos do look very well preserved for something that old.
Just a question, grandad cut or uncut ?
Dad, cut or uncut ?
You, cut or uncut ?
cut or uncut?
he was an alcohol!...
he was drunk!!
Your reading comprehension is suspect on the first article in that video link.
All it says is that the Six million jews in Russia are being persecuted, not killed or "holocausted".
If you don't have the intellect to follow history and make sense of simple news articles you should stick to hobbies like stamp collecting.
The same information is repeated in the other articles in tat video. 127,000 dead and 6 million at risk. No news here, Russia was harsh back then, hell all of Europe was barbaric and jews suffered more than most. easy pickings as they were essentially stateless outsiders and considered subhuman in practically every place they settled.
Still this is not six million dead jews declaring a holocaust; this is simply typical journalism of the day warning of peril to six million jews in a faraway place.
I don't see any gas chambers in those pictures
I see people that look like they've died from typhus (pic related)
Yes real articles but not about a previous six million dead jews. I don't have a pony in this race I simply hate seeing lies told in support of an agenda regardless of who is doing it.
Again: this is not an earlier holocaust claim, simply reporting on the jewish population in Russia which at the time was being persecuted and had a population of roughly six million.
learn to read and understand past 3rd grade level and try again.
Jew!!...we are soo pass this!!....people are more aware......just stop!....lol...
Not a jew you dumb nigger. Baptist and the fundamentalist type at that. I simply hate lying assnuggets.
Debating with a stormfaggot nigger is pointless as you have the intelligence of a epileptic hamster and the morals of a syphilitic nigger.
Bottom left has been proven a fake, so it's very likely the rest of these are as well. And even if they weren't, they prove only that conditions in the camps were terrible and disease and starvation was rampant.
I see no gas chambers, machine gun trenches, or crazy shit like Holocoasters
How fucking retarded do you have to be for that image to convince you of anything?
If there are hundreds of papers writing thousands of articles about jews over several decades you are going to have hundreds of references to "X million jews."
Someone please tell me this is obvious and people here aren't actually this stupid.
Except I don't say either of those.
Hitler was an autistic asshole who plunged the entire world into a vicious world war that ended in Germany being completely neutered by the Allies.
But the Holocaust also did not happen. I don't hate Jews, I don't really have much of a problem with the religious ones, but the they were not systematically exterminated on the scale we're told.
>Pictures of typhus victims' mass graves can be seen in footage shot at Bergen-Belsen concentration camp.
>Among thousands of prisoners in concentration camps such as Theresienstadt and Bergen-Belsen who died of typhus were Anne Frank, age 15, and her sister Margot, age 19.
That poster is a Stromfront shill and has a probable IQ if less than 60. They haunt /pol/ waiting for any thread even slightly related to Natsoc or Jews and begin shitposting their ridiculous nonsense and make complete fools of themselves.
Hint: they call anyone who disagrees with them a Jew, JIDF shill or shill..
Most live at home with their parents ad get SSDi for severe aspbergers and masturbate to /mlp/ porn.
Lots of dead bodies there.
Was a single dead body ever tested to see if the cause of death was by homicidal gassing?
I'm not really a Holocaust denier, I'm more of a gas chamber denier. I admit that some Jews may have died in world war 2 but I don't believe that a single one died from poisonous gas.
Holy shit, why do every grandfather of ww2 soldier have the propaganda pic on the bottom left?
Pic related same pic.
Gays, Gypsys, Communists and disabled all joined the Jews in the ovens you know.
The deniers never factor in the Porajmos, or the known entertainers and disabled that disappeared during the war. All they can do is turn it into a Jewish conspiracy.
No one controls the gypsies. Anyone whose ever met a gypsy knows this.
So how in the hell did the Jews embed the Porajmos in Romany history? It was the same camps and the same groups of survivors post war that provided the evidence at Nuremberg.
The worst thing about deniers is they won't pick up a history book. All they have is memes and youtube videos
You're still nowhere near the level of Australia or Canada. Hell, even Iceland does a better job of stirring the pot.
Maybe take some lessons from Romania, they have been rising in the ranks lately.
Go back and read my posts you ignorant stormfaggot, not a Jew all I care about is the bullshit being passed off as "facts" by the deniers like yourself.
It is difficult to get it through your pointy heads since you younger folk have never met survivors of the death camps like us older people have.
Again, I'm not a jew and you're a fool for following the deniers crock of nonsense.
Hate jews if you want but hate them for what they have done, will do and have been doing.
Not for what you think they've done.
They were deported to work camps, yes.
And the disabled were euthanized to free hospital beds and medical personnel for soldiers.
No one denies this. But the gas chambers? The 6,000,000 murdered and incinerated in individual ovens?
lol, again, what are you rambling about?
twice more in this one post you reiterated you're 'not' a kike... I mean that's child level stupidity. And then jumped on age... oh, and sure you're convincing me by calling me 'stormfag'; I'm sure that's related to stormfront? You don't like peaceful white power why?
Anyway, barking 'reyzizum' at every step won't help you, dog, you have a lot to learn
The ovens actually used were supposedly large enough for 1440 corpses every 24 hours.
Believe or not as the source is jewish and the shills will claim a bias regardless.
I think this is solid academic work though and from reliable sources soon after WWII.
this was just one of two in operation.
2880*350 (hey maintenance) = 1008000
So does 6 million sound unlikely with six years of work?
I'm just going to leave it here. If an average /pol/ack even cares.
>I'm just going to leave it here. If an average /pol/ack even cares.
I was going to give you a rational response, and actually cede that the word might have been a little harsh.. then I read your comment and so I won't bother. Good day to you.
Im an oldfag. I was a teenager when Rudolf Hess hung himself, I remember that day well as Ive been fascinated about war and world war war two for decades.
My grandad was an eyewitness. I grew up with eyewitnesses. We all did. I have my grandads diaries. The history books ive grown up with were peer and eyewitness reviewed. The wealth of physical evidence remains.
I am old enough to have witnessed the birth and growth of the Holocaust denial industry.
The Nazis depopulated Eastern Europe of Jews. They were there, and then they were gone. So were the gypsies, so were the gays, so were the communists.
and really, asylums all over Europe emptied for beds and mental health professionals required elsewhere? Show me the data and evidence.
>1% of 6 million survived
Now you're mixing propaganda myths. They get hard to keep track of. You meant:
>half of world jews were killed, roughly 6 million
>1% of those sent to camps survived
6 million, "half of world jews" over and over every few years. Jews breed faster than any other organism.
quit calling me ever new names you nigger kike faggot trannie spic brony gypsy gook, you're def kike
what cause are you worried about?
you're trying to protect your monopoly on lying?
You mean this "industry" that makes no money and is illegal in many countries? As opposed to the holocaust inudstry worth many many billions?
You are old enough to have totally imbibed the full jewish narrative of the shoah, and gone blind to all of the glaring holes in this fabrication.
Ironic that you ask for data and evidence when the nuremburg trials operated on none.
>Large numbers of people in camps who became low priority for food and medical supplies as the war was lost.
That was all it took. Still a crime but not a deliberate extermination.
I highy doubt a real jew would be able to take those photos or keep them.
It's also very unlikey that OPs family was indeed nazi veterans if OPs family bears the jew mark.
In other words I'm calling this fake.
The naked guy was edited out because that photo was going on the cover of a magazine and had to be altered to meet decency laws of the 1940s idiot
We all know the holohoax was BS but stop using already debunked maymays
I'd read, analysed and rejected David Irving hypothesis in Hitlers War long before the school football team had even thought of raping your mom and bathing your egg in the sperm of 20 guys.
Your first reply to me was this.
You started the shitpost spree all on your own and decided to start referring to me as a "kike". You have a mental illness, seriously if you were someplace that wasn't a 1 and 3/4 world shithole like Lithuania you could get treatment.
Being a 50 year old cuck that posts on 4chan isn't something to be proud of little man. Making claims of having blown the fuck out of holocaust revisionism isn't the same as proving that you've done it. Keep on being a pathetic retard.
I'm old enough to have sniffed coke off your moms young firm titties on her gap year in London
and im also old enough to have known eyewitnesses
fairy tales are for children, much like yourself.
Look, you started out by interrupting in a series of comments and asking for my elders so that's when you stepped in and became a pest.
After that all you have done is b8d and shitposted.
I've been on topic at least.
>the moment you realize jews are like the girls who cry rape today only they had a loud microphone
Holocaust deniers are the lowest form of subhuman. Hell, even most muslims will admit to the holocaust being a fact.
Especially since they plan on doing better than Hitler when they finally get the chance.
I have a problem with what you're presenting.
It takes a MODERN oven about two hours to incinerate one body.
Increasing the size of the oven wouldn't increase the speed at which the heat destroys a body as a larger container doesn't equal more heat.
Think about it like putting hot pockets in the microwave(lol amerifat) if you put one in at a time, it takes about 2.5 minutes to cook, if you put in two at once it can take upward of 7 minutes with the inside still being soggy. They are exposed to the same amount of heat for the same amount of time but because there is more mass to affect, the results are slower.
So up sizing an oven wouldn't do anything but consume more fuel for slower effects.
Speaking of fuel, if that many bodies were cremated, and it takes about 30kg of coke to cremate a body, if they were cremating 1440 as you are presenting, then about 43 metric tons of coke would be required PER DAY.
That seems like a pretty unattainable amount of resource to be sending daily to prison camps when there is a war happening.
broef list of kike arguments:
they fucked your mom
thet're much older than you
you like pony
everyone fucked your mom
you're a child
they're not kike
call them kike but they're not kike
they're old enough
pls touch books
you're a child
photoshop in 40s
The bodies themselves are fuel however. Reading the article that was linked actually mentions using the bodies as kindling. Once the fatty tissues ignite then the rest will continue to burn as long as there is oxygen and some external fuel.
Remembering that modern crematory ovens are designed for one body at a time and to burn so that air quality is not harmed would probably have an effect on burn time.
Burning a mass of bodies where you don't care about mixed end product would be efficient. And the Nazis really didn't worry about air quality.
Are all Lithuanians as completely retarded as you or are you simply an extreme for your nation.
Honestly; I have dealt with actual Goodwill retards who are better able to understand simple English than you.
>The bodies themselves are fuel however
>spouting one of the most easily debunked Holocaust myths
Irrefutable evidence that
A) Every one of those bodies is Jewish
B) They were gassed
C) There were gas champers
4) The scale of their loss was greater than or even equal to the loss of Europe
they think they have pic reated and everyone will just believe every nonsense. you also need a job in 'crematory' to talk to these retards
if the holocaust is real, why do you have a photo of the casualties of allied bombing in Nordhausen in your folder ?
Nazis did not do this
If his mum had a degree in marine biology and worked at a bank near Fleet St, then yup, i sniffed coke off her young firm titties.
Im not here to persuade anyone. I just like stating what i know, being right and mocking fools.
You mentalists dont have to believe a thing I say.
>>How can you guys deny the holocaust now??
9 picture of <100 dead bodies
>LOOK GUYS ITS TRUE!!! 6 GORILLIONS JEWS DIED!!!
leaving this here for anyone interested in the debate to take a look. almost everything has sources
concentration camps : myth vs reality
very redpilling videos
Aushwitz death certificates
Scientific works that Jews have shut down
I think this video is the easiest to swallow, because a Rabbi sanctioned archeology research proves how full of shit Jews are
Biggest red pill of da world:
>Jews did the holocaust!!!
I don't know what he means to say, there were deals being brokered to get all the Jews out of the camps and Europe, I think the Nazis wanted 2 million American dollars.
But the zionist organization they were negotiating with refused to pay
> "We are writing to remind you of the one factor of which you must never lose sight: that ultimately, the Allies will win the war. After their victory, territorial boundaries will be reshaped as they were after the First World War. Then, the way will be clear for our purpose at this time, with the war drawing to a close, we must do everything in our power to change Eretz Yisrael to Medinat Yisrael and many steps have already been taken in this regard. Therefore, we must turn a deaf ear to the pleas and cries emanating from Eastern Europe. Remember this: all the allies have suffered many losses, and if we also do not offer human sacrifices, how can we gain the right to sit at the conference table when the territorial boundaries are reshaped? Accordingly, it is foolhardy and brazen for us to negotiate in terms of money or supplies in exchange for Jewish lives. How dare we ask of the allied powers to barter money for lives while they are sustaining heavy casualties daily? So, insofar as the masses are concerned: RAK B'DAM TIHJE LANU HAAREZ, (Eretz Yisroel will be ours only by paying with blood), but as far as our immediate circle is concerned, ATEM TAJLU. The messenger bearing this letter will supply you with funds for this purpose".
That is an interesting excerpt indeed. However this line seems out of character to me:
>How dare we ask of the allied powers to barter money for lives while they are sustaining heavy casualties daily?
Considering the role they played and the lives lost in Iraq.
What we're seeing here is a lot of people dead or dying from neglect, not 6million systematically murdered.
Even the biggest, most harrowing pictures from the internment camps show less than a thousand very unfortunate, very uncomfortable deaths.
British Intelligence monitored ENIGMA messages without the Nazis knowing. Not once, not ever, was there any hint of a systematic extermination plan. The Germans were, however, very fastiduous about recording camp deaths, and if we add them all up it comes to a staggering 120,000 dead as the supply lines were steadily broken towards the end of the war. If we extropolate in time, a quarter of a million Jews, gypsies, gays, cripples, communists, Jehovah Witnesses and POWs shared the same fate, dead from neglect, disease.
That's the point OP. It was a horrible way to die, and yes, if they hadn't been interred, they might have lived. But it wasn't a murder factory, and it wasn't nearly 6million. This is important to note, not because I give a flying fuck about the Nazis, but that so very much capital has been made painting contemporary Germans out to be evil on account of the supposed actions of their forefathers. The disgusting offical response to the Cologne sex assaults are included in this unwarranted national guilt.
We don't need to make shit up about the Nazis, WW2 was bad enough without spinning fantasies after the event. That so very much money has been leached out of Germany on account of grimly, cynically exaggerating their evil to cartoonish proportions is disturbing, but not as disturbing as the six years I could spend in prison if I said any of this in public.
You realize your own pic doesn't refute the point, that the 6 million figure was a propaganda meme used for 50 years to raise shekels to "rebuild world jewery, reduced by 50%". Its impossible that half the worlds jews were wiped out every few years.
The death camps actually only killed ~3m. In total it was ~11m (~6m Jews and ~5m others) and most of them died due to malnutrition, resistance fighters, anger, or general war. They mostly killed the Jews in the camps since they 'hoped' they could make everyone else 'true Germans'.
I'm always amazed how the deniers jump on crappy numbers as well. Everyone latches on to the camps and ignores the ghettos, pogroms, and the destruction of cities.
You do know that Zyklon B is an insecticide, right? Used for killing bugs such as lice. Do you know what carries Typhus? Lice. Do you know how people deloused clothing in the 40s? By putting the clothes in chambers and gassing them.
It was to kill lice that carried Typhus to keep it from spreading.
Link to all the population stats on those "pogroms"; they're mentioned in each of those articles people keep mentioning. Each time, 'half the world's jews' = an impossibly high number that never shrinks. Jews must be made in factories to replenish that fast.
Yeah but op's gf and my gf were at Wobbelin. It was a camp for mostly Russian Jews, POWs, etc. My grandpa told me that they only had potatoes to feed them at first and Russians were dying in line waiting for food. He went crazy later in life.
Yeah, it is also a hydrogen cyanide that interferes with ATP production when used at a higher enough level. After experiments with Soviet POWs they switched from just using it for delousing to also using to kill people.
'Large Number of Jews' can also be used for nationalistic purposes since people never really like the Jews in history. Pogroms weren't large, just a high concentration where people at the beginning could go, shoot and kill, and not get harassed by the government. since it was essentially legalized.
I don't think anyone is denying the Holocaust as an event. I think it's the 6 gorrillion that is in dispute and why the Jews get guilt privilege when cripples and gypsies got gassed too.
The funny part about this whole thing is that historians are, very slowly, coming to terms with the fact that there is basically no evidence other than eye witness accounts from people who either claimed to have survived the gas chamber (a feat which is basically impossible) or heard rumors about gas chambers. At best the jewish version of the holocaust is like dramatic ethohistory. A legend or myth that is passed down among the generations to teach the young their culture's values.
What can you expect, from a fucking pic related?
you're a bunch of naive, stupid and gullible children.
Holocaust is just a political tool and a money laundering scam. that's all it is.
USA also have "concentration camps" but usa was not bombed back into the stone age like England was.
the thousands, not millions, of jews that died starved to death and were sick because Germany was being bombed.
this "photo album" you have seems to have been given to your grand papi as a kind of souvenir. those pictures were not taken by him. they are not originals. look in any history book and you'll see those pictures. they prop handed them out for propaganda purposes after the war during occupation and he put them all in an album. he didn't take them, they are all cherry picked propaganda pieces to de-nazify so the germans can be exploited again like after versailles.
that's all there is.
we had concentration camps, too. we just weren't being bombed.
They were still kept prisoner despite the starvation and diseases. Strangely couldn't release them though. So it was bad still so.
Gas chambers, mass ovenage, death camps in general. All Jew propaganda.