>>61098534 How are Trump and Sanders so fucking stupid? Their only chances comes from getting each others electorate, and all they do is shoot each others, making them look fucking antipathic for beinga dick to their elector's 2nd favourite.
>>61100145 I'd be there with you, but you really should just fall in line on this one. The Justices are getting replaced, and we need a conservative in the White House to select them. It's time to rally behind the best we can get.
>Even when controlling for confounding variables such as income and education, is a very good indicator of future income, predisposition toward violent crime, effectiveness within a given field of occupation, and academic metrics from ACT and SAT scores to GRE to GPA to college placement to graduation
>>61106455 >that chart is H I L A R I O U S L Y fraudulent. >now if you'll excuse me i'll just not say why because I'm a stupid cuckservative >please ignore me and stop fucking my loose asshole with logic
>>61106262 Basically what will happen is that if Mexico doesn't want to do it, we take the money that would have gone to Mexico and build wall ourselves instead. Basically, we take the money that would have gone to Mexico in trade and charity, and we tell them that it's not happening this year, the money is either going to be given to their builders or ours, and its their choice.
extortion? first of all, they owe us - because their incompetence has become OUR problem. so they should help clean their mess up.
second of all, so fucking what if it was extortion? so fucking what if we exterminated them? are you worried about being nice? huh? is that what you want? 'to be nice'? to be liked? or do you want to win, and get the upper hand? what the fuck does 'being nice' have to do with reality that is international politics - and the future of OUR people? are you going to betray YOUR friends and family - just to be nicer for a bunch of people that mean nothing to you and to whom you mean nothing either?
>>61107270 We do what we need to in order to make things better for our citizens. Who's going to punish us? Liberals like you cannot think outside the paradigm of children and punishment from parents/authority figures.
>>61107362 >and what is your point? do you want to be strong, or do you want to be weak? to rule, or to be ruled? to enslave and conquer, or to be conquered and enslaved? trump supporters literally say this
Bernie may sound stupid on tax issues but he is right about climate change and his proposals to combat it would be great for US economy. repairing old Infrastructure and rail roads, new jobs on alternative energy shit and more smart approach to gas. He is also against wars with Iran and doesn't support Israel when it come to Palestine. I'd vote for him if i were an American. The most stupid decisions he wouldn't be able to make because his advisors would stop him and congress would block him.
i thought it was global warming? wait, that stance became untenable a while back.
anyways, SO FUCKING WHAT if climate change is real? i don't think it is. but even if it were - it would be good for america. it wouldn't really hurt us, but it would hurt many other people very badly and they would be in our power.
>>61107416 is your sole mode of argumentation, this slimy, "point out that he just said what he just said, with the implicit begging for agreement from others in that what was said was wrong, without being able or willing to point out what was specifically wrong about it and support the premises that underly the reasoning?"
>>61107729 "big" oil companies are owned by the savage governments who hold life and death power over them. 'big' oil companies are nothing compared to the international banks and their globalist agenda.
again, climate change is an issue... why? who is climate change actually a problem for? not us.
>>61107622 >i thought it was global warming? wait, that stance became untenable a while back. no, it became climate change because retards like you go IT'S SNOWING SO MUCH FOR A WARM GLOBE AMIRITE
>anyways, SO FUCKING WHAT if climate change is real?
> but even if it were - it would be good for america.
ooh, moving the goalposts
>it wouldn't really hurt us, but it would hurt many other people very badly and they would be in our power. yeah dude not like we have two giant coasts to deal with or a populace to feed or anything
>is your sole mode of argumentation, this slimy, "point out that he just said what he just said, with the implicit begging for agreement from others in that what was said was wrong, without being able or willing to point out what was specifically wrong about it and support the premises that underly the reasoning?"
is your sole mode of argumentation "let's actually just kill people without remorse"?
>>61107633 >again, trump supporters literally want us to be the bad guys
>>61107680 >I got called out on my bullshit so I'll just say the thing he said and hope that covers it
>>61106753 Literally the only thing you need to know about "climate scientists" is that they have been masterbating about the end of the earth in man made climate change every 10-20 years since the late 60's and none of it has happened as their models predict. Not even close. They have been wrong time and time again and people do not seem to remember it. There entire claim is based of climate models not empirical evidence and their models have never been right.
>>61108149 the perfect solution is gary johnson family
you have a very personal definition of 'leagues'. Nuclear power is the only feasible competitor when things like coal exist. Bernie has even brought up the carbon tax. In terms of the environment, denouncing nuclear as 'unsafe' is a one way ticket to fucking your country over and removing the only reasonable alternative.
>>61107924 i won't deal with you on levels you're not capable of thinking at then.
'bad guys'. there are no good guys. there are no bad guys. there are only victors and the dead. international politics is just evolution. survival of the fittest. if you do not have the will to conquer- you WILL be conquered. the rising third world will NOT share your oh so kind hearted and noble aspirations of a happy peaceful world of everyone getting along. they will cut our throats. this is the way it has always been and always will be. i do not speak to you, who are beyond the reach of reason. i speak to those who might be listening. who do not wish to be exterminated. listen to the voice of reason. realize that reality, the real world, is not a kindergarten classroom. it is a jungle. it is a closed environment of competition for limited resources and living creatures killing and eating each other.
>>61098534 Brainwashed, so delusional. Their intellectual credibility and historical know-how is zero. One only has to peek into a textbook about the Bolshevik revolution to see the horrors organically permeated into Marxian socialism. Bureaucracy, red tape, centralization. They are savagely misguided. Also, this delusion that Lenin would have great, Stalin ruined, ridiculous fantasy.
This is a failure of our hijacked school system. The disasters of Marxian socialism are innate and intractable.
its going to come to violence. look at the things these people think. there is no way to change their mind and we're liable to kill ourselves trying.
they won't listen to us and we believe opposite of them. if we let them continue ignoring us, we will all die. we have to kill the leftists. there is no choice. failing to do so is the same as committing suicide.
>>61108766 you completely missed the point. it wasn't a serious question.
there is no "race" gene. "race" is a collection of genes that are common along a population of individuals, categorized primarily by skin color and other morphological features, which sounds all well and good until you realize that "race" does not sufficiently describe the genetic diversity of humanity, especially of the africans, who are the most genetically diverse population on the planet.
but it's convenient as a way for you to hate blacks without thinking that your feelings come from bigotry and not science
>>61108676 >show me the race gene There are a ton of different genes between a Caucasoid and a Negroid or Mongoloid. Is this the continuum fallacy your using? "race mixes exist therefore race doesn't"?
>>61108751 I don't support trump you goofball, I just dislike sanders. I'd vote for rand or gary johnson, but trump over sanders or shillary.
>the economy, foreign policy, and social issues to start
nice list of nothing in particular
socialists wouldn't be socialists if they understood anything about economics. Sanders has struggled with econ101 material on twitter before, namely the loans situation.
"The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive." - Thomas Sowell
this is why support for the left is alive thanks to the subversion of academia, in the gov and in children.
I find it funny that sanders supporters know the msm is deceitful when it talks negatively about sanders, but actually believe everything it has to say about trump without a second thought.
>>61106157 Why did CO2 stay steady from 1940-1980 during the economic boom? 1930-1940 was a period of global economic decline, why did it rise so much during that time? Why did is start to rise again around 1980, when the economy started to slow?
What altitude are these readings taken from? CO2 weighs more than air, so it doesn't stay in the upper atmosphere (where it could cause warming) for long.
And why do spikes in the global temperature (seen clearly around ~1895 and 1935) appear to LEAD and not FOLLOW major spikes in CO2?
The ones that were just stupid eventually realized that the Democrats intend to destroy the USA. The only ones left voting D now are as delusional as the inhabitants of Jonestown, and are more likely to vote Sanders than Hillary.
>>61109387 >the so-called "negroid" race contains more genetic diversity than the caucasoid or the mongoloid Okay, so you accept that race does exist, except you think negroid can be made into more categorizations.
The idea it boils down purely to skin color is a red herring. Black people differ from others in ways far more pronounced than mere skin color, as their assessed genetic distance from other putative groups shows on metrics like the fixation index.
>>61109387 Which makes perfect sense seeing as Africa is the point of origin for the species. The migrations which led to the Autroloid group and the Caucasoid/Mongoloid group would have almost certainly been a small group leaving the larger population behind. A migration is inherently a genetic bottleneck. I don't see what point you're trying to make.
>>61110063 >the groups are only as discrete as you make them, though
No they aren't. Learn to genetic clustering. There's no situation when using PCA that Australoids cluster together with West Africans for example, it just doesn't happen.
>no, race is an arbitrary measure
No it isn't, if it were purely arbitrary then why does principal component analysis in population genetics show clustering around traditional racial groups as identified by physical anthropologists in the 19th century?
>>61110063 >no, race is an arbitrary measure >you just choose to put them on skin color lines so that you can hate freely
it's more than skin colour. 'race' may not be the right word, fine, but that's all your argument is. Semantics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization) 'ancestry' covers it a little bit better if that'll make you happy. Which is what this discussion is about.
>>61110063 >race is an arbitrary measure If it's so arbitrary then how did you know "negroid has more genetic diversity than Caucasoid and mongoloids". If the terms are meaningless how can you make such a defined statement?
> "[R]ather than showing that eliminating threat eliminates the large score gap on standardized tests, the research actually shows something very different. Specifically, absent stereotype threat, the African American–White difference is just what one would expect based on the African American–White difference in SAT scores, whereas in the presence of stereotype threat, the difference is larger than would be expected based on the difference in SAT scores."
In other words, Steele only showed he could persuade black students to do worse than they did on the SAT. He did not show he could make black Stanford students score better than they had on the Verbal SAT - which was about a half-standard deviation below the white Stanford students in the study.
>>61110063 >no, race is an arbitrary measure Most biological distinctions are. Hell even the boundries between species can be muddy; there's a population of bears in Alaska which are morphologically very large brown bears but have more polar bear genes than brown bear genes. Which are they? What does it mean when two species can interbreed in this way? Do we argue that they were subspecies all along? Does the fact that there has been and continues to be interbreeding between them invalidate even the subspecies classification?
>>61110251 >No it isn't, if it were purely arbitrary then why does principal component analysis in population genetics show clustering around traditional racial groups as identified by physical anthropologists in the 19th century? if it's so rigid, then why is the clustering not 100% concordant?
>>61110310 no, retard non-diagnostic means the participants weren't primed to think "this test matters," so they weren't socially pressured into a mode of thinking when that pressure was removed, they did just as well as the whites
>>61110319 so you can believe in the 20,000 year weather cycle, but think NASA's data is lying
>>61110843 >no, retard >non-diagnostic means the participants weren't primed to think "this test matters," so they weren't socially pressured into a mode of thinking >when that pressure was removed, they did just as well as the whites thats not what the medical definition of non-diagnostic means so try again.
let's not forget the millions of other examples where blacks under perform and there aren't whites for thousands of miles around.
>>61110843 >if it's so rigid, then why is the clustering not 100% concordant?
I never said it was rigid, you implied it had to be for race to actually exist, which no biologist or population geneticist would agree with.
>he showed the effects of socialization that, when removed, remove the gap in testing
No he didn't you retarded nigger. Re-read the quote, it's from a peer reviewed assessment of his study.
>it makes it so that you shouldn't automatically assume that each subspecies is completely distinct from one another >completely distinct
So now we've moved on from flat out race denial to another strawman, implying that different racial groups are "completely discrete" when in reality the fact they're part of a continuum is something we embrace and point to as evidence.
Yes, if human beings ceased to exist, and their language ceased to exist, genomes of various other organisms would continue to objectively exist, divergent evolution would continue to objectively exist, phylogenetic concordance between different sub-species would continue to exist.
They are objective things. No matter how much you will it, non-white people aren't white, and vice versa, as the present situation in Europe clearly illustrates.
>>61110843 We can do the "race isn't real because muh clear distinctions that we don't even have in many examples of species" all day. But do you honestly believe that if I gathered 1,000 Native Australian children, raised them exactly the same as 1,000 random Native Japanese children they'd be around the same intelligence? Because that's the question that matters.
>>61111388 >genotype and phenotype are exactly the same
>Funny coming from a group of people who essentially believe Mendelian Inheritance doesn't exist and that evolution only applies to things that fit within their politically acceptable sensibilities. you learn very rapidly studying epigenetics and cell biology that mendelian genetics is only the very beginning of the story
it's like describing all illnesses as being caused by "bad blood" - reductionist to the point of meaninglessness
>>61111432 >Divergent evolution doesn't apply to human beings >Ok, maybe it does, but only for things like skin color >And maybe morphology too >But nothing else >Because humans are special snowflakes >Btw people who believe in God are retarded
>>61106866 Same here. Heard he was running, immediately volunteered for when he comes to town. Met him 4 years ago and I shit you not he's just a standard run of the mill guy. He's quite friendly and seems to be in perfect shape. Then again, he has scaled every tallest peak per continent.
>>61111637 >>I'm sorry you've never taken a statistics class, I truly am. >>statistics only matter if the sample size is 100000 >>this is what someone who knows nothing about stats actually believes The amount of bias in a sample from only the population of the university is incredible.
It's almost as if only blacks who do well in high school and have rich(intelligent) parents to pay for their college at xavier university aren't a representation of the general black population. Even with that they don't match the performance of whites at xavier university.
I have no problem with immigrant/intelligent blacks, but there are WAY too many niggers that we have to deal with.
>>61111637 >genotype and phenotype are exactly the same
Nobody said this.
>you learn very rapidly studying epigenetics
Ah yes, that's it. Nigger diasporas perform academically poorly in virtually every society on earth because there's some sort of hidden causative factor that triggers an epigenetic reaction. Because this isn't an outrageous violation of occam's razor.
>reductionist to the point of meaninglessness
The only one insisting that one side of the equation cancels out the other is you. Most people who are hereditarians are quite happy to concede environment plays a key role in someone's development, but you unironically believe that every single disparity in outcome that you happen not to like is 100% the result of environment.
Who is the real "reductionist" here, in reducing anything in a society to a by-product of "Phantom Discrimination" or "White Privilege" or some other nebulous unquantifiable shit.
>>61111786 >The amount of bias in a sample from only the population of the university is incredible.
>It's almost as if only blacks who do well in high school and have rich(intelligent) parents to pay for their college at xavier university aren't a representation of the general black population. Even with that they don't match the performance of whites at xavier university. they do, though, when socialization is removed
>I have no problem with immigrant/intelligent blacks, but there are WAY too many niggers that we have to deal with. he said, without any trace of irony
>>61111877 >insurmountable means that you believe race is something that automatically designates the performance of an individual
Nobody said that, we say racial differences are a key part of why blacks are more aggressive, perform poorly academically relative to other races and are generally part of quasi-matriarchal family structures.
>divergent evolution applies to humans, therefore whites are objectively superior
The fact you're strawmanning this hard means we've already won.
>>61111877 >raised in australia and japan respectively? and do you mean the current majority population of japan or the ainu? Stop stalling, but the fact that you are shows that you really do know but you don't like it. Exactly the same means exactly the same, in a laboratory, and I'll say the current majority population but the Ainu are also fine.
>>61111908 you said >[genetics] quite literally is [the end all be all of existence]
>Ah yes, that's it. Nigger diasporas perform academically poorly in virtually every society on earth because there's some sort of hidden causative factor that triggers an epigenetic reaction. Because this isn't an outrageous violation of occam's razor. yeah dude it's not like the environment ever influenced phenotypic expression lmao
>>61112039 >Nobody said that, we say racial differences are a key part of why blacks are more aggressive, perform poorly academically relative to other races and are generally part of quasi-matriarchal family structures.
but you refuse to acknowledge society's part in any of this and you want to insist that race is the biggest part because feelings
>your study does not prove this in any way shape or form for the general black population.
but it does
>please take a statistics class at some point in the near future.
good luck when you're trying to get your million person samples
>please explain why my argument is bad instead of going HURR YOU'RE WRONG!
>I don't have a problem with blacks, we just have to deal with these niggers! it's like something from out of a political cartoon
>>61111981 They're arguing against single quotes themselves. Don't need to debunk the article, just show the quotes aren't false like they said. Find the full article if you want and debunk it yourself if you think that they're relevant.
>>61112295 >[genetics] quite literally is [the end all be all of existence]
This is fact. We exist because of our genes. It doesn't mean the sum total of our behavior is down to genes.
>but you refuse to acknowledge society's part in any of this and you want to insist that race is the biggest part because feelings
I don't see how a society which
1) Spends more than virtually every OECD country on education per pupil. 2) Institutionalized advantages blacks in college admissions, admissions to magnet schools etc 3) Places severe pressure on teachers and administrators to "equalize" this "achievement gap"
Is someone working to the disadvantage of blacks.
Remember that globally there's very little connection between educational spending and academic attainment. The PISA rankings are definitive proof of this.
>>61103297 I'm a neet and I'm not voting for that bald larry david looking cuck. I'm a neet because I'm a fuckup and can't even join the military due to a genetic defect and have no money for education, and can't get a grant because my privilege level is still somehow too high, but I'd do factory work just fine. With any luck trump will bring jobs to this country that stupid fucks like me can manage.
Human production of CO2 does have an impact on the atmosphere. However, the atmosphere becomes saturated with carbon depending on certain conditions, which is why the data points keep going up and down. The global warming doomsday scenario is the false part.
>>61112614 >if I tried to bring up all the ways in which blacks are oppressed
Bring up ways in which blacks are "oppressed" that aren't just symptomatic of their general degeneracy: E.g. destroying new housing projects and then claiming the poor condition of the housing is the reason they fail.
>>61112295 >because feelings Don't project dude. Society has an effect but it's not everything. Claiming it's all environment is a big stretch and there's no real evidence. They exist in all kinds of environments yet it all ends the same for some reason.
>>61112489 >facebook costs money you are really, really, dumb >cigarettes popularity gaining among youth smoking is down overall nice attempt tho >>eating too much food makes you fat >>Fat Tolerance is now a thing you're right lets be like new york and ban large sizes. totally sensible
>>61112727 >Bring up ways in which blacks are "oppressed" that aren't just symptomatic of their general degeneracy how is this not assuming the conclusion in your premise? seriously, how can I name anything when you just write it off as degeneracy? it's baffling that you're so lacking in self-awareness
and how is that? Facebook users continue to use it despite everyone knowing their information is sold
Everyone uses products known to work with the NSA because they just don't care. People don't care.
Monsanto is still in business and no one cares.
>you're right lets be like new york and ban large sizes. totally sensible that's not my point. My point is that consumers can't be educated on literally every thing they buy and everything the company does that they buy it from.
If consumers were actually so smart as to regulate quality based on their demand, America wouldn't have an obesity epidemic.
>>61112936 >how is this not assuming the conclusion in your premise?
Because I gave you a clear cut example of how you do it:
>Build new housing for niggers >Niggers run it down and physically destroy it >Other mo' money fo dem programs nigger comes along and claims the reason his fellow niggers are incapable is partly because their housing is so poor "There is a direct link between the quality of someone's housing and cleanliness of their living environment and how well they do at school!" >Nigger secures grant for new housing >After embezzling a big part of it for purple drank and white hookers, new housing is built >Same pattern repeats again
>>61112614 I'll accept racial equality if I see a successful modern black civilization by their own intuition, and black(at least 90%, no 50% white) scientists making important breakthroughs. What evidence would be necessary for you to admit you're wrong and races aren't the same?
>>61113372 >if a black scientist succeeds, it must be due to his white genes If Bill constantly get's A's and Ben gets F's. When they do a project together and get a C It's seems very likely the good work came from Bill.
Please answer the question then. >what evidence would change your mind?
Presidents are weak on domestic policy, very weak. I don't fear any of his outlandish fringe SJW stuff. Only his centrist ideas, universal healthcare and reigning in taxes will have a chance of passing
>>61102035 SCOTUS is literally the most important thing going on now
you realize you have 2-3 conniving kikes on your supreme court justice? all the fundamental transformations and transgressions emanating into your society are permitted because of the state of the SCOTUS
if the democrats take it in 2016 the USA is over because I guarantee you jews will have the majority vote in the SCOTUS
it is critically important to root out grand deceptions from society as well, Trump needs to make a truth detection department with truth serums/truth machines and do a dragnet of society to root out grand deceptions against the united states in positions of power. I guarantee you a couple will be found in the SCOTUS and that's just the tip of the iceberg
>>61116514 >Congratulations on being clinically retarded What makes you say this? You should know first that I'm pro-vax personally. I just think that you're making a stronger argument against yourself. I imagine if asked why you feel the way you do, you wouldn't have sources at hand that convinced you. You'd probably google it and come back with some links. Those links aren't what made your decision though. It was probably as a result of something you read, maybe even something put out by your gov. Maybe you saw it on reddit. Maybe here on 4chan. There are valid reasons to be skeptical of these sources.
If you want to educate people, don't start by insulting them. You have a very strong opinion, but in itself that isn't an argument Don't be an oppression Olympics SJW with this sort of thing.
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