>>61096306 Media tells them that >going to college >buying stuff >getting a job >fucking bbc >getting a toy dog >climbing corporate ladder >world travel As all more important and interesting than having kids
Women are incredibly susceptible to propaganda(media/advertising)
Women still have kids, they just choose to have less of them bc pop culture distracts them with other forms of entertainment. They've also found out that they don't need to marry a man and have kids to have a reliable source of income, they can just fuck their boss for a raise and buy whatever they want. They all eventually have a kid though when they're older and washed up or if they let some black dude knock them up. I don't know hardly any women anymore who legitimately have kids with a white guy that they love.
1. jew brainwashing that you will be happier and more fulfilled without children 2. jews pushing overpopulation as a serious issue in white countries 3.jews shaming people for not practicing miscegenation, since they naturally know it is wrong they just end up having no kids at all 4. jews destroying the economy so women have to work/ having kids is too expensive 5. jews pushing feminism where it is seen as a something to be proud of when you are a "strong independent women who don't need no man" 6. jews.
>>61096927 In my area northwest Montana thereis a very high birthrate..
However >hardly any couple is married >most are on drugs >most are young and dumb
There are some religious famalies that have a high number of kids but it's mostly just young and dumb kids.
Atleast they are having children however and the local abortion butcher had her office destroyed a few years ago so abortions really don't happen around here, since girls would have to travel 3 hours and I guess are too lazy to do that.
>>61096306 More like >why don't white women want to have children
Can't afford to live a comfortable lifestyle with even 1 serious hobby as aa white SAHM mom anymore. Sure, you can marry a guy pulling close to 6 figures, but not all women can do that. Not even a significant minority can do that because there are only so many high earning men.
Military communities are FULL of kids. Everyone has at least 2, some have way more. Why? They can actually afford it. Bennies everywhere. Outside of the military there are NO bennies for white people. Those are for the blacks and spics, goy. Oh yeah, and the Chinese and SEA. The smart/successful azn meme is pretty much limited to the japs, koreans, and upper middle class chinese. The rest (most) of them are getting some government dosh.
I don't want to have kids because I'm not the warm, bonding, loving, compassionate type of person that's good for raising kids. I never felt like I wanted to have a family, even from a young age. I don't think I'd be a BAD parent if it came down to it, not at all, but I am not a nurturer. It's probably more responsible for me not to bring a child to the world if I know I can't be there emotionally for it.
Another reason is medical complications I had in the past may make it risky for me to be pregnant/birth a child.
All in all, I wish more moms would be there for their kids. My mom quit her job to raise me, and she started teaching me things years before the school system did and I'm grateful for that.
>>61097173 Basically this, life is far more expensive, there's a lot of idiots telling you what you can or cannot do with kids, often the woman also has to work wich means the granps get to keep the kid wich will inevitably grow up with authority issues and resentment, and the world's future is so grim you barely feel the need to procreate. Also progressivism ruined the concept of family, humanity worked fine with defined roles for the father and the mother but now everything is wrong, muh feminism, gender equality, yadda yadda. Not enough money and not enough time, this is the legacy left to us by our parents.
>every adult in my senpai that is over 40 years old got married young as fuck and had over 3 kids they are all still married men work hard and women are honorable, they also had their very own house and land before the age of 30 >mfw most of the young people in my senpai the new generation under 30 years including me still hasn't gotten married let alone has a home or land, the men are cowards and the women lazy whores single moms. How the fuck did we fuck up this bad I know this problem isn't just in my senpai but a problem effecting mostly western minded countries.
Female education is linked to lower fertility, that's why the west and Japan/Korea have been hit hard. The happy medium would be to let women get educated but no promoting the hell out of it and a major reduction in Liberal Arts admittance.
>>61096306 Cause they have become men. Or at least are far ahead on the leftist way to make everyone "equal", with no differences between genders, so there are no roles to adhere to, no responsibilities to the community/society.
>>61096306 They do though, riiiiiiiight about the time they realize that their looks, fertility and sexual market value are all dropping like stones, and the ticking of their biological clock is finally loud enough for them to pay attention to it.
When this happens its now your fault if you don't want to choose one of these ageing shitty women to be your wife... and you're literally hitler if you'd rather just fuck a girl 10 years younger than yourself. You now have to "man up" and settle down with a woman well past her prime, so that a generation of women who have been making shitty choices and wasting their 20s don't have to experience any of the consequences of those choices.
Here you go, enjoy: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448
>be at small party at my hometown >a lot of guys&girls past 20 are single over at my town >hear girls talking >they are talking about they think there are no decent males in our town. >somehow they consider themselfs better
the problem is that women have standards that are ridiculously high.
ik know a girl from a couple of streets down my house who only started talking to me since i bought a house, before that i wasnt even a existence for her.
>>61097916 I moved here from Texas three years ago.
Honest assessment: Goods >not seeing brown people is like taking a serious weight off of your shoulders >there is a small town community feel, In summer kids walk and play alone >loads of community events >the large amount of public land is awesome >skiing is a big bonus >work is more laid back here, people work to live not live to work >fittest state, so girls are thinner >actually four seasons is a unique thing for me, makes years more memorable >Halloween is huge here which is great fun >where I live whitefish/Kalispell we have everything so I really don't have want for anything >glacier national park close by >mountains >lots of snow but not the wet heavy kind >Richard Spencer and zyklon Ben are my neighbors >I love raising kids here compared to texas
Bads >you will eventually look down on the lower class whites but heh, better than beaners, niggers, pakis etc >more crazy haired girls than I am accustomed to >high number of tattoos >weed culture >not much sun in winter(I don't care) >pay is much lower than Texas but hey no commute and don't have shitskins in your kids school >I get very annoyed if I see a brown person as it's pretty rare it triggers me >I could say Indians but they stick to their reservations so you never see them >Missoula is too close 2.5 hours away its liberal as fuck college town >housing costs more but property taxes are very low >jobs are harder to come by
Because we don't "have to." It's socially perfectly okay not to have kids, actually it's almost encouraged. Having a family is often viewed as old fashioned, traditional, conservative, generally negative and something that'll hold down your personal development and achieving "real shit." It's no where trendy to have a family, people appreciate other achievements higher. In a sense, that's great, cause the high level of education has had a huge positive effect on societies.
It also demands financial and mental resources and time. Our culture praises cold values and individuality and having kids doesn't really fit to that culture's ideal image of a woman who's fit, educated, successful career person, living the real life SATC life meeting girl friends and having fun.
We are not exactly a generation of people taking responsibility. We've have it easy and we've been pampered not by our own parents, but the entire enviroment around us. And thanks to globalization, the ties to our father land are very loose. Most of us doesn't feel like they had a duty or that they owned anything for this country. I'm not saying that they should, it doesn't really fit to the modern context we live in, but what I mean is that most people doesn't have thoughts like "gotta have kids to keep my family name running" or "gotta have kids so they'll take over our family business." That's no a thing anymore.
Men are effected by the current phenomenon too. I've met so many men, who have said that they don't really dream about having a family and it's not that important for them.
So yeah. I think that the biggest personal challenge for me is going to be finding a man with similar traditional values and normal mental state of health. So I'm not talking about those edgy super conservative 4chan posters that you meet here, but men who are actually great father material. I have a stable father who's loyal to death. I want my kids to have a similar father.
>>61098598 I believe it's more to do with finding a partner respectable, resourceful, and responsible enough to stick around were said woman to become impregnated. It's like when women hook up with that manly man, their vaginas become cum vacuums at every chance to tie that man down
Women want the perfect man There are very few desirable perfect men. Therefore, women delay having a family, sometimes forever.
So What needs to be done, is genius sperm banks need to be set up, and stocked with the sperm of the best men on earth, and husbands should swallow their pride, and let their wives use these banks if they want. And husbands should raise the children as their own.
This will boost the birth rate. Women will be inspired to create more children, knowing the children have a higher chance of being awesome.
>>61099140 I'm talking about the social context we live and where our parents (or at least grandparents) have lived in. Back when my momma was young, someone not having a family at all was considered odd. Not to even go to my grandma's generation.
The whole culture of praising the childless way of living is something that has not been around for too long. People won't give you a bad look if you say you don't want kids, cause you aren't the only one.
>>61096306 Because men these days are shit and they won't provide for you. Maybe I will have children later, but right now, I don't trust anyone enough for such a serious commitment. It may be a side effect of feminism - both males and females are guilty for this shitty culture that turns men into irresponsible assholes - but that changes nothing for me.
>>61098908 Well its not like women have a strong incentive to actually make a relationship work even if they do have a kid. They'll be well taken care of by the state and the kid will grow up to be a delinquent loser due to the lack of a father figure
>>61098859 Thank you for the assessment. Makes me want to go there even more. I live around Chicago, and the moment broke-ass Illinois stops pumping out food stamps, SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN.
From what I hear it's very live-and-let-live, people are concerned for one another without being fake friendly or nosy, people value the 2nd amendment, and are more conservative leaning.
I like winter and snow, but never have the chance to ski because it's all flat land here. I hear that pay is low and jobs are hard to come by, but if I own my own online business I might be able to avoid that. I think I will try to visit this year.
I hear Montana has a bit of a meth problem. Can you confirm? Also, self-sufficiency and growing my own food is very important to me. Is there a strong gardening/farmer's market community in that area?
>>61099340 are you retarded? there's no programs that target a specific race and encourage them to breed. all our social programs are aimed at making it easier for poor people to breed and it just happens to be most poor people are spics and niggers
motherhood has been bad-mouthed and talked down to for 20 years by TV
>it's boring >you're a conformist of you do >it's brave to be single >it's brave to be childless >happy families are so dorky and lame >kids are gross and smell bad >you don't wan to be some boring girl >look how happy those girls on sex and the city are >going on tinder dates and drinking wine with your cat every night is great
it's all propaganda. all it takes is a positive, unironic depiction of traditional families to show its obvious superiority
>>61098767 Which is my murka manlets should be MORE liberal....push for MORE liberalism and making the rich fucking pay. Breeding rate was much higher when proportion of taxes paid by richholes was higher.
The female sexual imperative means always trying to trade up for something better. ALWAYS. It's only with the advent of birth control can they do this and put off having children indefinitely, whereas before they'd eventually get knocked up by whoever she had at that time. She will NEVER want to stop trying to trade up for a better deal, and will ALWAYS hold out for a better deal. Birth control means they can do this until our civilization is overrun by barbarian sand nigger rapists.
>>61099535 >a strong gardening/farmer's Extremely big here
>live and let live, 2nd amendment Yes, east side of the mountains is a little more conservative than west but they have more extreme weather/wind.. Lots of Christians here but also a mix of PNW culture. Gun laws are based here.
If you run an online business then it's a perfect place to live.
Oh something I forgot, there can be a fire season here, sometimes in late summer the smoke can be bad, you just never know. Late June and early July are greatest times to visit.
However when I did my scouting trip it was October and I checked out this area and northern Idaho and it was great.
>>61099535 >meth Meth had a comeback this summer and the prison hasn't been added upon in 10 years so they didn't have any room. They did seem to alleviate that problem by fall. Like I said the white underclass is a not disappointing to be honest. They need some strong paternal direction.
>Find a nice girl in college >shes white, christian, strong values >gave off a hint of sjw morals. It only got worse as time went on in college >Talk about our future, talk about kids >"Anon I dont want birth kids. We must adopt. I wont budge on this" >The conversation goes to what would happen if we had an accident "Abortion" then what would happen if she got raped and pregnant "Oh I'd keep it, because its mine. Not this" >My mind implodes
After that conversarion I literally used her as a cum dump until I found someone better.
>>61100539 I'm sure a bit of a drug problem is nothing compared to out here. Reminds me of when I visited w. WA and a local giving me a ride apologized for driving through the ghetto and I laughed because the area was pretty nice. It's nothing like the ghettos of Chicago's south side or Gary, IN, which I live near.
I have experience in basic framing and finish carpentry, technical theatre building sets and props, graphic design, printing, fine art, and photography. Any hopes of me finding a job there or should I stick to my online stuff?
Sorry for all the questions, but Montana tugs at my heart for some reason.
>>61098901 I have encountered a fuckton of people like you here in the states. Honestly I don't think women are the issue. The men I know are either total cucks that I would prefer don't have kids, and all the father material guys have realized their newfound value in the sexual market and have become Tindersluts. Those who are actually interested in committed relationships are already in committed relationships, as these guys are selling like hotcakes.
The thing is, being a Tinderlord takes a lot of effort, and if they'd settle down just a bit they'd realize how much better being in a relationship is. But the early stages of relationships aren't happening. It's not that women don't want to have kids, that's a bunch of media bullshit. Furthermore, when a women can't find a good man, she becomes resentful towards men, and then buys into media bullshit.
>>61100967 >I have experience in basic framing and finish carpentry, technical theatre building sets and props, graphic design, printing, fine art, and photography. Yes as a side job.. Lots lf high end housing construction here, I have no idea how it pays but lots of people do it for a living. Theatre(no you can't make a living on that) photography, I know a few people that do it for a living idk, graphic design, printing, art no(maybe hobbies to make a little cash).
>Wasn't terribly fond with kids >Sister gets knocked up when I was about 21 >Work super early and get home early so I ended up having to watch my new nephew almost everyday for a year >Got good with calming him, feeding him, teaching him. >He's 3 now, and his father is a deadbeat ass (so is my sister), so I take it upon myself to do what I can to guide him. >Got him going to the bathroom on his own, counting, working on reading next, not to mention a 6 part handshake he knows that I've been expanding on since he was 2.
I'm 25 now, and I realize how much I want my own little shitlord. I've been working hard to lose weight, make more money, and socializing. I gotta find a good baby oven before I'm 30.
>>61098901 I lost you for second there, but you brought it back in at the end, you were answering the literal question as to why [some] *it should say* women don't want children .. But in your case you DO eventually want to have children,, thats great! This ties into what I mentioned earlier about something in people that switches on when they get a certain vibe from their potential significant other. What's important is to promote a healthy and strong family that sticks together, and instill the belief in our children that marriage and family are beautiful things that must be appreciated and respected. Although my parents eventually did end up splitting, I had a wonderful family life while it lasted. I've always known I would want a family of my own, so I married young and have 2 children at present. My wife wants a third soon before finishing uni so she wont have to deal with pregnancy during her employment. Many women do want children,, just waiting on that father material. Also, women shouldnt feel like a child will impair their ability to progress in life,, as if having a baby with stagnate their lifes. I know many women that had children young and still have their lifes on track..
Tumblr would love 4chan. But hey, only a fool would expect a modern western woman to take responsibility for anything in her life. Just blame men and tell men to "man up", then women don't have to look in the mirror.
>>61101788 All mixrace grils ive been around are either twice as chimpout niggers, I guess overcompensate, or quiet, kinda weird, sweet girls who all have the same olive/tannish skin with short black hair.
>>61101912 Rich and older folks are a good base for massage. My bf has a few older, wealthy clients who pay for a weekly $100 massage and drop another $100 in tips. Got to house-sit for one of them while they went on vacation. Sometimes they take us to dinner. Shit's rad.
Thank you for answering all of my questions. I'll probably do a tour of W Montana later this year. Plus the picture you first posted of the downtown covered in snow is so damn comfy looking.
Rising cost of living, stagnant wages, high taxes for benefits for Laquanda and her 7 kids by 3 men, none of whom will go to college unless someone else (white) pays for it, tuition through the roof bc every campus has 2 diversity departments (subsidy at best, wasteful do-nothing bureaucracy most of the time)
Then there is the media campaign to convince us we shouldn't, that we can keep our middle class lifestyles if we abandon this backward and barbaric ritual of forcing women to birth children. Liberal societies are self destructive and soon be a thing of the past.
>>61102093 See man the SJWs are trying to turn white men and women against each other. Most chicks I know want a good white boyfriend to take care of them, but the dudes are too busy either being faggots or fucking everything that walks because they've been force fed this idea that women are whores who don't take responsibility. You're drinking what they're selling m8. I've only ever met like two sjw chicks. Sjws are are not changing women, they're enraging and/or cucking the men. Wake up.
>>61099527 Unfortunately this is the case sometimes,, this is why its important for men to man up, and for women to respect themselves.. Society doesn't promote these values, but YOU could (you in a general sense). Out of the many things that can be done to make a difference, respectful responsible people need to raise respectful responsible children, instead of abstaining because "I dont need to" or "whats the point".. Our sole purpose on this planet is to exist, so lets populate the future with people who give a damn!
Feminism is a complete non-explanation for the decline in birthrates for the simple fact that WOMEN WANT MORE CHILDREN THAN MEN DO. This is true in the United States anyway. If it were up to women we would actually be having more children than we are now.
The average birthrate for a White couple in the United States is not even that low and I think for conservatives it's already above replacement. If it weren't for getting flooded with brown people and our social security Ponzi scheme we could afford to loose population. Less population = more land and resources for the people that are already there. It's quality not quantity that counts.
>>61102400 Its weird, out of the 5 mix girls from when I was in HS: 2 were hambeasts that fought teachers and other niggers like everyother day and the other 3 were like I said in my other post, they looked similar, dressed similar and were all quiet and kinda weird, strangest thing is I dont think any of them knew eachother.
>>61096306 They're liberated, which means holding their sexual desires to something higher than pleasure is no longer considered valid, and has also sent them in to the meat grinder of debt/wage slavery. A woman without the hassle of bearing children is freedom personified.
>>61101988 Yeah I wasn't preferring to myself, just talking with the mouths of my fellow sisters. I've always wanted to have kids and I know that I eventually will, no question about that. It just all comes down to who I'll have the children with.
>>61102093 I didn't blame anyone there. I just told how things are. Simply, because of culture doesn't support family values that much, it's not as easy as it maybe was before to find a man who will share at least part of those traditional views and values.
I'm not drinking what they are selling. Guys thinking women are whores exists for many reasons, mainly because women so easily fall into slut culture and then push it in everyone's faces. Guys have a personal choice if they want to date women or not, why is this so hard to understand? The entitlement complex of womanchildren these days is astounding. People are conditioned to just blame men, while they don't realize that men are HALF of the equation.
>>61096306 >He fell for the lie Here's the fucking red pill: almost every woman would rather raise kids and stay home than work. As 100 other anons have pointed out, they just say whatever everyone else is saying to fit in.
>>61102771 Like I said, mine was adopted by white people, has all white friends even though her school is uber multicultural. She's definitely weird, but not quiet, not a libfag, and horny to the point where it's almost annoying. It's a pretty good gig. She has insecurities due to being an Oreo and thus doesn't have any solid values. She has separation issues due to being adopted, and I'm 98% sure she'll never leave me. She's adopting my values, getting redpilled, because she had never taken any pills and she wants to stick with me.
>>61096306 Women do want children, but wealth transfer from whites to nonwhites means it's much less pleasant for whites to do so these days. Nonwhites love popping out babies in rapid succession when they are paid by the government to do so.
I think that the nature hasn't provided Homo Sapiens with an instinct of wanting to be a parent. Wanting to fuck an alpha is enough. Motherhood instinct kick in later. And we have simply tricked the whole system by using condoms.
>>61103207 Just don't give up. Before I went to university, I barely talked to anyone. My only real interaction with men outside my family was getting hit on and whistled at. I was shy and introverted as all hell (still am to some extent). Despite my personality, even I met someone, we've been together for three years now.
If you keep an open mind, you'll find someone. Simple as that.
Oh, so you're dating someone, even though you said you can't find a man in your original post. Alright then, femanon. I can humor you.
My point here is that a lot of salty bitter femanons are sperging out and blaming me, because they know they can get away with it. People have this idea that we need to save the white race, yet the only way we can do that is if men submit to women. That is fucked up and not right. Women are half the equation, and I find it very sad that women are never taught to introspect and evaluate their own lives and actions. You are taught to blame men for everything and you do exactly that.
More man blaming. No, I've seen what I've seen. Internet is a reflection of real life. I go outside every day. You are just trying to sell me this fantasy that the average girl is like your girl-next-door 1950s stereotype, when it ain't so. Why do women refuse to take responsibility and introspect?
>>61103474 Well m8, do whats good for you, most of the /pol/acks will shit on you but, as long as she make you happy and want to contribute and have kids and blahblahblah, you get the picture. Enrich her and in a couple generations your great-x grandchildren will be pure white.
Most of women I meet want to have kids and atleast 3 kids, but the here comes the hard part -- they are all sluts and some even drug addicts, who fuck random guys without a condom and all want to settle down when they are 26-28, thinking they will meet someone special after that... I don't understand.
Honestly it isn't entirely our fault. Social engineering is doing this. I, however, do think we're buying into the internet and the media too much, and we're allowing the SJWs to make our lives, and the lives of normal women shitty. I'm not blaming men, I'm saying stop blaming women, and stop buying the SJW agenda.
>>61103731 No, maybe you read it that way, but dating someone is not the same as "finding the person to have kids with," who I was preferring to in that original post of mine. I've dated this guy only for so long that it's waaay to early for me to say about such things.
Let your anger flow through, but I'm still not blaming men or really even expecting them to be something just because I would like them to be in ideal situation.
I didn't quite understand that outburst of yours, but what ever. I think my post was pretty neutral. Don't assume that all women are similar and have identical views.
Women work more nowadays in order to buy clothes and look pretty for Tyrone. Most white men don't have jobs and are broke, while black men steal and sell drugs. So the men who are supposed to be with these women are sheltered or homeless, while being unemployed. This creates a vacuum where all of the sexual market value lies in the criminal gangs where all the white women want them but the dindus are taken so usually these women will stay single for life, forever trying to gain the affections of Jamal
>>61096306 This is a myth that is blown out of proportion by the liberal media. Yes, there are less births but its largely due to feminism and lifestyle changes from previous generations. Women are naturally selective when it comes to a breeding partner as pregnancy and birth are sometimes fatal. Have you seen the state of today's men? Can you even call them men? Betas, nu-males, man-children, unambitious, underachieving weaklings with poor social skills, etc. are the cancer that is killing the west. They are the cancer that enables feminists to get away with their shit and allows leftist politicians to dominate their countries.
Do feminists bother with other races other than whites? No. Do feminists bother with religions other than Christianity? No. They are opportunists that target low hanging fruit in order to gain political power and benefits from society. Feminazis are mentally traumatized con-artists, that's all you need to know.
If you seriously believe that ALL women don't want to get married and have children then it's time to step outside of your parent's house or NEET hovel. Women do want to have children, just not with a weakling that folds under pressure.
Women are easily manipulated no doubt, but I can tell that you see my point clearer now. We need women, but I don't think it's such a bad thing to ask women to take more responsibility for things. You don't get to go on and on about 'manchildren' and sperg out at us guys for not doing what you want, meanwhile we have to deal with our own pressures, and you still expect us to be perfect at the end of the day. It doesn't work like that. I know what I've seen.
It's not anger, anon. I'm just pointing out that you, along with all the other salty bitter femanons, have this preconceived idea that your situation is the result of men being 'manchildren' and not your own actions. You were never taught to introspect or evaluate your own life at all. You were taught that when a problem occurs, just blame men. I see it in the way you type, you got caught, and now it's time for damage control.
You said very blatantly that you couldn't find a man. Your post was basically the reversal of an /r9k/ "I can't find a girl" post. Difference being, is that the /r9k/ guys are accustomed to people telling them that THEY are the problem. You are accustomed to people kissing your ass and blaming men. Spot the difference.
>>61104302 In any case, realize and keep in mind that males have higher romantic marketplace value than they've had in a long time because of short supply due to SJW manipulation. Don't sell the room full of quiet, marryable qts short because of the loud as fuck room of 3 sluts screaming and yelling about equality.
That's the fucking problem. You think you'll find this great fucking man, but you won't. Most people are average, you're average. Find an average fucking man, becuase guess what. You're an average fucking woman
And I will use that to my advantage. I'm not going to go running to the rescue of m'lady just because I am a male and someone on the fucking Internet told me to do it. This problem works both ways, but it will ultimately be solved when women stop being what they currently are right now.
The pressure against young males to tow the line is incredible. People on 4chan, Tumblr and Reddit might think that it's "woman hating" to hold women accountable for their actions, but oh well. It IS the current year, keep in mind.
I honestly think that if women are depressed that they can't find no good man these days, they deserve it. Serves them right for buying into slut culture and feminism.
>>61104935 Why else would you try to get to know a woman? >Hello, I'd like to invite you to do something and then never talk to you again. To befriend her based on her looks? Also, what's wrong with sex? Even if you want to start a family, the motivation would still "just" be sex.
>>61104470 Well having known someone for like two weeks doesn't really make me valid to judge our future and his father tendencies in the long term. I'm just getting to know him, and knowing if he's good in that sense is a long process. That's called adult life, and I hope that you won't rush with such major decisions either. It takes some time to get to know each others. You don't just jump to the happily married stage, you know.
>>61104482 Well duh, I said in my post that we are all adult children since life has treated as well and it's been easy. And I don't know about you, but at least I grew up in a family where my brothers were so spoiled and pampered by our mother, that she even did their homework.
Are you just trolling with me or what the hell are you ranting about? This really took an unexpected personal turn. Kek.
No, I'm addressing every point you made, and reminding you that you are half of the problem, and that you need to stop blaming men for your own personal failures. If you call that trolling, then so be it. Increase your market value and I'm sure you'll find a man, anon. But don't blame us because you can't find one. Don't be like a reverse /r9k/.
>>61105079 Yeah dude but what if they never did buy into slut culture and feminism, and you aren't dating them because you bought into slut culture and feminism? What about the women that do take responsibility for their actions? What about the women who have drunken, regrettable sex and DON'T accuse anyone of rape? Feminism wants you to see women as worthless whores, they want you to feel like you've pulled the short stick, because then you act on that and they can say "NUH UH" and they'll be right, because they're the ones that manipulated you into seeing the world the wrong way in the first place.
You're taking the bait man.
Don't end up like >>61105484 , that's what the SJW wants.
- Housing, as policy by Central Bank - Health Care, no limits - Drugs for Medical, no limit to costs' - Food, both Restaurants and Grocery, no limits - Insurance, - Property Tax - Utility Costs - Transportation Costs
Kids are expensive due to inflation.
No protection from marriage contracts to prevent stupid and abusive Divorce Settlements.
You even get screwed if your family has money and leave it too you when they die.
How's that Job and Career? - Ceilings on Wages? - Infinite requirements for new education and skills training?
- Loss of Pensions, Chance of Loss of Social Security? - Big change forced into Part Time Work, loss of Benefits, and loss of Pensions?
>>61100008 very true. the media has more power than some people realize when it comes to shaping the opinion's of the world. Its hard to watch any television without getting liberals megaphoning in your face
>>61105294 You are average. Find an average man. It's that simple. I don't care what your definition of great is. Why do you even think you deserve a great man. What have you done. Really what have you done that makes you worthy of a great man
Stop repeating your points like a broken record. I am not that guy. I am me. I am responsible for my own actions and I choose to do what I want, and what I think is best.
Your entire rant makes no sense. So I am taking SJW bait just because I, as a young male, choose to see the current situation and act in my best interests??? Your shaming tactics aren't working. Try something else.
>>61103154 >1994 anon >start working at grocery store as bagger >see tall 5-11 qt working at checker >get courage to ask her to dinner >spend all day not asking her >last minute pass in stairwell,l >ask her to dinner >go to dinner >back at my parents home >play pool >she kisses me >continue dating >never spend a day no seeing one another >propose 10 months later >live together through college >marriage 5 years later >three kids >living comfy life redpilling kiddos
With hindsight her tall height probably made her a little insecure but I found it very attractive and I was always a commitment minded person.
She wasn't relgious, wasn't a horn dog, was relatively shy, hates women is introverted, but very pretty imo
I look at my fellow students from highschool and they most to all look like they failed in life.
>>61105079 >I honestly think that if women are depressed that they can't find no good man these days, they deserve it. Serves them right for buying into slut culture and feminism All that ranting and you blaming all women, yet you are blaming me for blaming all men at the same time when you actually literally did that by yourself?
You are just mad and angry and probably bitter for some reason, go figure. Or you totally lack perspective. Not all women are hoes, not all identify as feminists. Those are loud minorities, but most people aren't radically immoral or feminists, at least in it's aggressive modern radical form that we always hear about.
>>61105484 >>61105728 What's your definition of average then? I have a pretty positive image about myself. Yeah, sure I'm not super model tier, but I have had no issues dating "great" men and as stated before, I'm dating one at the moment. In my eyes, he is definitely great, inside and out. Attractive and intelligent. Honestly great. He matches my greatness.
>Really what have you done that makes you worthy of a great man I think it's a mix of having been lucky in a gene lottery in many ways and having been born to this environment I'm in. Sweden is full of great men, I see and meet them daily.
>>61105743 I fail to see how anything you've said reflects your best interests. Everything you've posted has led me to believe that you've been manipulated into a bitter dude who blames all women for the actions of a few tards. Not that you're stupid or a bad person, you're just looking at it from the wrong angle.
>>61105910 You should cast your barren women out into the desert without polo mints if she is too old to carry children desu, why waste animal lives to feed it, oil reserves to heat and mobilise it and living space in your domicile to shelter it if all it will do is make piles of shit and bills like a teenager neet.
they can't be strong and independent and raise kids at the same time. too busy with their career that their vagina and tits qualified them for. too busy moving from one chump to the next because no man deserves her for too long at once, as was cemented into her brain by her single mom, school teachers and professors.
having and caring for a child requires empathy and selflessness, two things that women are entirely void of.
>All that ranting and you blaming all women, yet you are blaming me for blaming all men at the same time when you actually literally did that by yourself?
How many times did I say that men and women are the respective HALF of the equation? You are an autistic retard. My point was that we both have our faults, and you refuse to take responsibility for YOUR problems and YOUR stake in the whole thing. You literally just blame men right off the bat for your own shortcomings. And men aren't perfect, but blaming them entirely for your situation is pathetic. I was merely saying that if women as a whole have trouble finding boys to date, maybe they should introspect and look in the mirror instead of blaming men. Or you can keep blaming men, and see where that gets you (lol).
>You are just mad and angry and probably bitter for some reason, go figure. Or you totally lack perspective. Not all women are hoes, not all identify as feminists.
No, I'm merely replying to you and reminding you that you are not a perfect angel void of responsibility. You need to look in the mirror and see what your problem is, see why you can't find boys to date you. It seems that women project on the Internet and call others "bitter" when they get criticized, and that's because you are not accustomed to someone holding you responsible for anything.
Lots of women are hoes and feminists, that's not the point here. My point is that you lazily resort to blaming all men because it's the socially acceptable way that you and other women don't have to look in the mirror at yourselves.
>>61106235 I haven't had children yet because it's not current in let's say at least 7 years.
Either we have some communication barriers and issues here, which is very much possible since English is my third language, but you are horribly misreading my point.
At this time and place I'm not even looking for someone to have a family with. I'm lucky if I do, but the truth is that life changes and I'm probably not going to be in Sweden in few years. I can't expect someone to drag his life with me, so chances are that even if by the time I'm leaving I was dating someone in a serious matter, it maybe wouldn't last. You never know.
Looking out for myself and not falling for feminists or sluts is in my best interests. Why do so many people use the word "bitter" against men on the Internet? All I'm saying is that us guys have a right to watch out for ourselves, and women should look in the fucking mirror and introspect if they can't find a man. If you disagree with that, then good for you. Your shaming tactics didn't work, and you seem to have a problem with men not submitting to women. Why?
>>61106565 >>Has vagina and makes up the rules as it goes along >>Expects perfect soleplate that is well founded >>Plans to abandon nation of birth >>Multi-lingual and believes probably has little faith in bonds of heritage
>>61096306 1960s women wanted to have careers instead of waiting for some guy to wife them. Prices on everything rose to match the dual income level. Now nobody with a middle class life can afford large families. Thanks Women, you killed the west.
>>61106667 >submitting = finding a partner and starting a family Suuurrreeeee.
>Introspect if they can't find a man What man? My point is there are almost no men to find. Nearly all men are either sluts, fags, betas/nu-males, or already happy with another woman. You already agreed that because of low supply, we have high market value, why is it so hard to believe that there are waifu material girls out there who can't find a good boyfriend because the good ones are either taken, or as in your case, resent them for being women? I have several friends who would likely date you, assuming you're not a fedora-lord, even though you're pissy, just because there simply isn't anyone else around. I swear if guys don't get their heads wrapped around this we're going to end up like Japan.
>>61106506 >but blaming them entirely for your situation is pathetic Still not blaming. I explained you, why people are the way we are nowadays. It's not anyone's fault, and I don't really wonder why people, men, women, doesn't wanna have kids and I see where they are coming with those opinions. It's not other people's fault if they aren't acting they way I want and I know and acknowledge that, it's you who's reading what you want between the lines. But please keep going, you are the one to lose in this game with that martyr attitude of yours. Focus on people as individuals, especially when it comes to dating, cause most likely you'll only date one at a a time. It doesn't matter what most people are and why and what they think, just look for the exception to the rule, okay?
>You need to look in the mirror and see what your problem is, see why you can't find boys to date you What is my problem exactly again? I don't have issues finding men to date, I don't date boys cause I'm actually an adult, believe it or not. Dating this man who is almost 30 years old.
I also don't understand what responsibility you want me to take here.
For the 1000000th time, I don' think it's hard to find men to date, I don't think it's hard to find guys I consider great, it's not even difficult to make them interested in me. What might be hard, and what I originally meant, is to maybe find someone who wants to raise kids in a similar way and have a similar family life that I'd wish to have. It might not be easy for me, and it might not be any easier for you/men/who ever either. Finding a person who's goals, lifestyle and values matches big time with yours is not simple, especially if you hold certain values which are opposing the prevalent ones.
Why the fuck would anyone want kids these days? Life sucking useless little cunts, I barely have enough time to myself as is. People wanting kids are the real cucks. Society indoctrinated you into wanting marriage and kids. Only the true red pilled can see through this bollacks.
But how is that my problem? I saw you sneak the bedora meme in there. Not necessary. My overall point here is women need to take responsibility for their own actions and introspect. Why do you disagree? You literally blame the entire problem on men.
>I have several friends who would likely date you, assuming you're not a fedora-lord, even though you're pissy, just because there simply isn't anyone else around. I swear if guys don't get their heads wrapped around this we're going to end up like Japan.
This is also predicated on the idea that men are to blame for the entire situation. You just can't hide it in your wording no matter how hard you try.
And yes, chasing after women and providing them with a picture perfect dream life, meanwhile males get told they are problem and women are exempt from criticize does = serving women, something I refuse to do.
>But please keep going, you are the one to lose in this game with that martyr attitude of yours.
Considering all the salty, bitter femanons whining in this tread, you're wrong. I also see it on other websites. It's a pattern - blame men for everything, refuse to introspect, then stay alone. Wash, rinse, repeat.
> It doesn't matter what most people are and why and what they think, just look for the exception to the rule, okay?
So much damage control going on here. You are getting increasingly upset that I can see through your bullshit. Lots of other guys can too. Guys are absolutely not exempt from some blame in this, but women are taught not to take responsibility, and that's a problem. We have generations of damaged goods women that are basically like children. You are basically begging me to find a 1950s girl-next-door type that doesn't exist. Fuck you.
>What is my problem exactly again? I don't have issues finding men to date, I don't date boys cause I'm actually an adult, believe it or not. Dating this man who is almost 30 years old.
I already humored you with that, anon. You'll find a man one day, just take responsibility.
>Finding a person who's goals, lifestyle and values matches big time with yours is not simple, especially if you hold certain values which are opposing the prevalent ones.
Then why can't you compromise? You obviously expect the world to bow to you, and when it doesn't, you go on 4chan and sperg about all men. Go see a therapist. Like that other guy said, you obviously think you deserve a 10/10 Chad while being average yourself.
>>61107412 Well maybe that comment of yours closes the circle, kinda. As much as I wanna have children, right now my other life goals are more important and what I'm reaching for. Such as finishing my studies, making a career, which will probably take me abroad. And I'd be silly if I didn't go after those dreams and try to develop myself now when I'm free to do it. Of course there is the risk that one day I realize that I'm highly educated, 40 with no kids, but I also might be able to be a great parent with a large vision and experience as well as great financial resources and therefore a lot to offer for my kids, mentally and materially. I think I'll make a lot better parent once I've lived some, properly grown up and finally being in a state of certainity and stability in my life. And not just that, there's also a good chance to contribute positive things for the society, instead of just having 1000000 kids with first guy who comes along and who eventually turns into an alcoholic. Never using my own personal talent and skills on anything. Well, no thanks.
Again, I guess this is the individuality I mentioned earlier.
I have some issues I need to deal with that I think make me not appropriate to be a mother at this point. I'm in therapy for them. Just like you get your body healthy, you should also check out your mind. Then I'll be set to have them.
Fuck having any responsibility towards the social contract or the traditions you so readily dismiss that made it possible for your self centred brainfarts to even have an audience to begin with.
Life is all about discovering yourself n sheeeit mayne. Bazinga the Bible is full of bronze age mythology, le universe is weally weally big therefore God doesn't real, Alan Watts said we're all just whirlpools in a stream or something I dont know I dont believe it anyways but I consider myself spiritual. Gotta put the Christians on trial for not condoning gay marriage but Islam is the religion of peace even though its morals are completely incompatible with my own LOL.
Also I think my gravest error is failing to present any positivity or reason to not to hate them.
Firstly, any educated person knows that the Japanese issue comes from both sides. Any effort from either side might help, and being a man, I am much more capable of presenting ideas of how men could help. Not that women can't do their part, it's just that I have better ideas of how men could handle it.
I'm not blaming the entire problem in the west on men either. There is indeed a contingent of women who are the shittiest, most deceitful whores to curse this earth. There is a contingent of men who, as we have established, suck. There is also a contingent of men who are normal, decent, and dateable. There is also a contingent of women who are normal, decent, and dateable. Why do the are the shitty men shitty? Because of the shitty women. Why are the shitty women shitty? Because of the shitty men. It's a vicious cycle. Which contingent do you wish to be a part of?
> And yes, chasing after women and providing them with a picture perfect dream life, meanwhile males get told they are problem and women are exempt from criticize does = serving women
If you provide a woman with the perfect life, and she does not reciprocate, she is a shitty woman. And the only people saying males are the problem is the shitty contingent of both men and women. I get told that I'm a muhsojinust asshole by white knights and feminazis alike. But I don't care because my girlfriend tells me that those people are retards and I have a good point. I gave a girl a shot, and I am rewarded often for my decision. I make all of my own decisions, I don't let her tell me what to do, I am not whipped.
I am not blaming the problem on men or women, I'm blaming it on SJWs and MGTOWS. Division is bad. These creatures are supposed to be symbiotic partners, and many of them are.
I love how grown women don't have time for all the me me me bullshit. None of the diary-esque rambling like you see from the other women ITT. Things will work out for you waffle lady you have plenty of time to have kids.
>>61110139 Not even redpilled, I still consider myself a leftie more or less, though it's waning.
I'm talking to one of you lot quite often and I can't deny the truth in some of the things he said and linked me, and some of the stupidity of the left media and feminists around me. Cologne made me livid and kinda broke the SJW spell.
>>61096306 They're stupid and selfish, mostly. Being pregnant and raising children isn't fun most of the time, it is work. But there's also zero social incentive to marry young and have children. It's seen as weird. I have no friends now.
All women, considering there is this weird social trend for women to blame men and never take any responsibility for anything.
I see what you're saying, man, and this is honestly the most down-to-earth post you've made. For the umpteenth time, my contention here is that women need to "woman up" and stop blaming men, and basically everyone needs to stop expecting young males to just bow down and serve women just because they are women. We've proven we won't do that shit anymore.
Congrats on not being whipped. I see guys in public getting screamed at and embarrassed by their gfs constantly. It's so sad. And apparently I am the bad guy since I don't want to waste y whole life just to submit to women.
You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. But the current attitude that women have and the expectations placed on young dudes needs to change, because it's not accomplishing anything.
>>61104293 oh yeah? you think the faggots in your pic are going to save anything? let me tell you that the kind of 'men' girls in their 20s choose aren't capable of anything, besides smiling and sweet talking and using their looks to get involved in the most mundane petty shit you can think of, while all the engineering students become bitter and/or hang themselves.
It's not only boys that have to struggle with the brainwashing. if girls would get their shit together, the whole birthrate situation would be less shit too.
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