Is this true?

>>61081320
no

>>61081320
nope

>>61082461
/thread

>>61081320
yes

>>61082626
>>61082516
>>61082461
DUDE WEED LMAO

>>61081320
>This is why we can't have free speech.

>>61082461
>>61082516
>>61082626
samefag

>>61081320

Just recently it was proved not to reduce IQ in teen users. So most definitely no. Though the lack of sources should make it obvious.

>>61082888

>the lack of sources

>it was proved

hmmmmmmmmmm

>>61081320
Yes

>>61081320

>normal person sees this

Eh, whatever.

>dudeweed sees this

YO YO YO YO YO YO HOL UP HOL UP *smacks dry lips* YOU GOD SHIT ALL WRONG HOMIE 420 WEED KUSH SMOKE DANK NO BEDTIME INJECT THE MARY JANE INTO YO CANCER BAM THE ANSWER PARK STARK LARK NO LOVE FOR A NARC what the fuck was I doing again? oh right WEED WEED WEED SMOKE WEED DOOBIES WEED WEED 420 NO BEDTIME BLAZE IT FAGGOT

>being a fucking weed addict

I hate people who are addicts, it's like they are kids in adult bodies.

>>61081320
It's bad but saying it has no medical uses is wrong.

>>61082987
People who don't smoke pot are more aggressive and annoying about it than people who do smoke lmao

>>61081320
Former student of neuropsychology.
Cannabis or thc actuates as antidepressor.
Depending of its grde is like taking orfidal, valium or even more. Consider to take pills without fucking prescription.
Longer than a year
Longer than 2 years
Correlating the drug to a social enviroment
>smoking the jew grass is not the best choice unless your former job is exposer in the momma or millonaire.

>>61082888
It was "proven" to not do something bad

Somehow that's something good?

DUDE

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>weedegenerates try to justify their drug use by saying "cmooonnn maaaannnnnnnn it cures cancerrrr *puff*"

>>61081320
Does it matter? Painkillers like morphine have a medical use, but you're still a fucking loser if you use them outside of a hospital.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26499171

Empirically chronic usage of weed does not appear to be good or benign.

>Our findings demonstrate that adolescent THC administration is associated with persistent neuroinflammation within the PFC and provide evidence for a causal association between microglial activation and the development long-term cognitive deficits induced by adolescent THC treatment.

I can corroborate this anecdotally. We humans are "adolescents" with developing brains until about 23. Every friend I had in HS that started regularly (weekly/daily) smoking weed (or bongs, or edibles, or whatever) and did so for years (I stopped interacting with them at ~20, so it had been 4-7 years of usage) aside from becoming increasingly more insufferable with their "DUDE WEED I GOTTA GET MUH HIT MUH EDIBLES MUH WEED MUH WEED" also became noticeably slower and dumber (as if their minds were in some kind of fog).

If weed is to be legalized, the legal age should be 25.

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>>61081320

>highly addictive
>highly

lol

Marijuana being a Schedule 1 banned narcotic in the united states, makes it insanely difficult to do any legitimate science with it. So even if we wanted to do study on medical benefits. It is just to hard, with all the government red tape.

Nicotine has been proven to be more addictive than Heroine. Yet remains legal. So is alcohol.

>>61083549
>Heroine

>>61081320
Yes

>>61081320
False

Cannabidiol has many medicinal applications.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol

>>61083770
BUT DUDE THAT MEANS LESS THC

>>61083288
When all the arguments against it are that its bad for you... yeah that's a good thing.

Are you stupid or something?

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>>61083168

You're fucking joking right now right?

Dudeweeds are the fucking worst. They know they're addicted to the shit and have to fucking reinforce to themselves that it's ok every 10 seconds.

>IT CURES CANCER MAN
>IT'S A PLANT DUDE
>IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD
>IT'S NOT AS BAD AS ALCOHOL

Meanwhile most of us who are sober (aka people with jobs) are sitting here looking like this not saying a word.

For the love of christ. Just smoke the shit and shut the fuck up!

fuck off, i had introduced me mum to it, helps a lot with her nausea (she has gastroduodenitis)

It doesn't cure/prevent cancer, stop being shills.

http://pagesix.com/2015/10/07/tommy-chongs-cancer-struggle-takes-a-turn-for-the-worse/

>>61083840
Exactly. THC offers very little medical benefit.

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>>61081320
>Cannabis is highly addictive

>all these canadian cucks in this thread

The more weed you smoke, the less room there is in your lungs for the blessed essence of Jesus Christ to fill you.

>>61081320
smoked for 3 years and i can say it's very fucking addictive, liberals will have you believe it's not but they're also brainwashed to say that sooooo

>>61084016
>I've never heard a pot smoker not talk about weed
Gee, I wonder why.

>>61084212
What if you roll up with pages of the Bible?

Yes, people seriously do this.

>>61084292

>rolling joints with pages of the bible
>not rolling joints with pages of the blessed quoran

infidels pls

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>>61083285
>neuropsychology

you were a student of meme

>>61081320
[citation needed]

>>61083168
Pot smoker detected.

>>61081320
Yes, that is true. That's not to say that there aren't medical uses for cannabis, but those are mainly palliative.

>all these addicts coming out of the woodwork

>>61084016
>Meanwhile im at work
>Everyone compliments me on the work i do and how i keep busy
>Someone bitchin about people who smoke and work
>I come out to them
>Im fucking blazed right now
>They dont believe me
>Its true though 420 blaze it erryday faggots and i do better work than everyone in the office and make more than straightedge posters on 4chan
Lmao @ youre life!

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>>61083285
>neuropsychology

>>61082710
Dude bad economics lol

>>61084016
Eh aside from the worst dudebro's I find DUDEWEED's to be a myth, at least in terms of aggressiveness. The people I knew who were addicted to weed were very self aware about their habit, even when they were 420BLAAAYZUHHHHUH, and more common were just normal people who happened to smoke weed but could go without it.

>>61084124
Cannabis is psychologically addictive.

Potheads who are addicted to pot and have to light up every day are real. And they are my former friends.

>>61084582
DUDE I SMOKE WHEN I NEED TO DRIVE, EAT, SLEEP, WORK, OR BASICALLY HAVE MOTIVATION TO DO ANYTHING

No I'm not addicted it just makes everything better and now that I know it, I don't want to do anything without it. I'm not addicted.

>>61084227
I quit 1 day to another after smoking for several years. No treatment, no withdrawal, no nothing. Just met a new co-worker that day and decided that if I am going to have a chance with her I should probably not be "dude, weed, lmao"

So quit being a pussy, there is no addiction - just no desire to quit.

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come on bro! Its all natural!

>>61081320
Marijuana is an appetite stimulant, pain killer, and a soporific that has very few side effects.

These are the only 100% proven medical benefits of it. Everything else is not well tested.

TEST

>>61084880
>implying it wasn't some of the other 99 drugs mixed in

>>61084880
THC is only one cannabinoid you retard, sythetic weed is scary shit don't try it

>>61084752
No, Im addicted. Its my crutch. I do everything high. Want to call the cops about. How do you cope? Surfing the 4 channels? Masturbating?

>>61084719
Well, isn't anything that's likeable possibly psychologically addictive?

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>>61084227
same here...I've got no problem people smoking it, but it killed all my ambitions and made me a socially retarded fuck. I stopped smoking it for more than a 2 years now, life's so much better without it.
I still don't agree with it being illegal though. What you cause to your own health is not the governments fucking business.

almost all psychiatric medications cause dependency, but they're perfectly legal, nicotine is perfectly legal.
How is possible dependency grounds to keep weed illegal?

>>61084719
That's purely a will power issue. It isn't like nicotine, alcohol, or opiates. Where your body becomes physically dependent. You stop using them and you have an adverse physical reaction.

>>61085372
This

>>61084227
I ran out of weed a couple of weeks ago and haven't bothered to get more, I've just been doing other stuff. I wouldn't even say I've quit, I'm just not in a hurry to smoke.

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>>61081320

Yes it is, OP.

Medical marijuana is a meme.

It`s a weak painkiller compared to opiates and regular users can develope mental illnesses like schizophrenia.

Science anon here. (ONCODESIGN, Dijon) There's a fact about weed and its active molecule, THC many labs have found about:
Marijuana definitively decreases the production of testosterone. A regular smoker who rolls about one joint per day will see his T being drastically reduced. This is a little study done over a 365 year period from 2003-2004 to see if there were anything good about vaping the equivalent of one joint per day, so you don't smoke tobacco and have "all the best of the weed"

Not only this would be strictly illegal, but also it's an information we cannot publish for obvious reasons, and others that are more political.

I'm gonna start some experience based on the statistic of transgender people, or people diagnosticized with gender dysphoria who used to smoke, or still smoke weed, this will be seen discriminatory but I will do it anyways, I think we're about to find something that explains the cause of gender dysphoria. There is a link here, between that cause of depression AND the consumption of marijuana.

Also I stopped smoking weed. Making it vapable in case it becomes legal will be a disaster.

>>61081320
Yes.

It's a lie perpetuated by the weed lobby.

They know they can't get it fully legalised so they're pretending it has medical use.

>dude heroine is a very effective pain killer

The biggest opposition to marijuana legalization besides the Police Industrial Complex? The businesses that would have to compete against marijuana.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/21/this-buds-not-for-you-bee_n_732901.html

Marijuana is being kept illegal, to make sure other companies and government agencies keep getting more money.

>>61085762
schizophrenia is hereditary you nigger

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>>61085762

>tfw picking up a q later
Feels good man. I don't care if it's good for me or not. When I get drunk I black out, get into a bar fight, and puke all over my clothes. When I get stoned I eat so much I get a stomach ache. I'm just picking the lesser of my two vices.

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>>61084880
it was a synthetic weed stupid crap

>>61081320
i think the greatest problem with weed is it denies the body rem sleep which is where cognitive functions are restored and refined

rem sleep has much to do with problem solving

>>61085190
Yes.

But TCH directly modifies your brain chemistry, so that makes it far more addictive than natural sources of dopamine, like gambling and sex.

>>61085899
other opiates like morphine and oxycontin are already legal though

>>61082626
>>61082516
>>61082461
cucks
>>61081320
If you smoke weed you're a faggot and should get sent to a camp...

>>61083364
Lol whats wrong? Your dealer cut you off pussy?

I would honestly like to see it made legal in the UK at least for medicinal reasons (Kek) just for the amount of profit you can make by it, being your own boss essentially and marketing your own product.

I have plans set out for when it does become legal, until that day il just keep working my day job.

>>61086130
Ahahaha you are the faggot here, you should hang yourself or use your brain, but i guess a stupid formatted pussy like you can't make that

>>61086130
ok Estonia tell me all about how my country should be run while youre still banging rocks together to make fire, what happened you kidnap a UN peace keeper and steal his laptop before boiling him alive in an oversized soup pot?

>>61086252
enjoy schizophrenia.

>>61085899
This, medical Marijuana has zero health benefits, I hate how these liberal fucks act like weed will cure cancer

i'm pretty sure that long term use of cannabis can cause chronic paranoia and increases the possibility of developing schizophrenia.

>>61086210
if that ever happens there will be major growers already lined up to sell an market it professionally and they will very quickly lobby for regulations which would make it impossible for individuals to grow and sell it.

>>61086327
ebin joke burger-man

>>61086345
Not growing fuck tonnes of weed and selling it to these idiots.

>>61082987
More like the opposite you're the faggot who doesn't smoke and wrote that

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Cannabis is a medicine. Its not to be smoked for leisure, smoking is also the wrong way of administering the drug. Medicines as you all know can be abused by people who want to get fucked up.

Don't think about it as a fun drug which ALSO has medicinal uses. Its a fucking medicine that has some potentially fun side effects.

>>61086355
nobody has provided a source for this meme

>>61081320
Idk but pot is more carcinogenic than tobacco. The trade off being that you generally smoke less pot than you would tobacco.

If you partake regularly then you should seriously consider vaping, otherwise you're pretty much guaranteed to get lung cancer.

>>61086330
i smoke since 4 years in a bong and i'm fine, i have a girlfriends, some friend who do not smoke, and i smoke cuz i like that, what is the problem ?

Ryan Dawson did a video on this the other day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQCe4bN9-kA

>>61084880
And that's exactly the thing that should make it on the fucking news.
Yes, weed is not a miracle cure and yes, it's called "shit" for a reason.

It will fuck your brain up, and endocrine system, as far as what we, and many labs have found across the world.

So really as an ex-smoker, drugs are shit.

>>61086083
So is there even a difference between physically addictive and psychologically addictive? In the end it's all complex brain chemistry stuff. Hard addictions heavily change circuits apparently.

>>61085354
It's funny because they evidently only cause dependencies under the right social circumstances. Morphine, the hardest shit ever, for example.

Until it is properly legalized in places that actually matter, you're never going to have the research on what aspects of it are good and bad. Legalization both means people can do it, but at the same time, might learn that doing it isn't what it cracked up to be.

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>>61086362
Come at me bro, I am a native citizen, the American and foreign growers can do one.

British buds will prevail.

You're probably right though, although getting a licence to grow and sell all just comes down to money. .

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>>61081320

>>61086556
Shit ≠ weed

>>61086205
I'm high on life, no crutches for me

>>61086083
So does sugar

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>>61086252
the french have spoken.... although in a way not understandable for anyone else and with an accent almost so close to Hebrew it's scary.

What happened France? Why is your language so disgusting? Why don't you speak like your people in Brittany? Did you kill off your native language interbreeding with Morrocans?

>>61085762
This is somewhat true, it makes previously existing mental problems worse, and you won't realize it until years later, that's why so many of my friends have anxiety and shit now.

>>61086622
only poorfags would do shit like that

>>61086327
What the fuck are you trying to say with that?

All the medical benefits come from Cannabidiol which is already sold legally in pill form so no, there's not really a justification for smoking it to get high as a medical treatment

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Get red-pilled, you idiots!

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>Weed is not addictive!!!
>There are literally hundreds of thousands of people that spend every single day smoking weed and getting high
>I can stop anytime I want bro it's not a physical addiction!!!

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>>61086622
been there so many times

>>61086355
Schizophrenia is a genetic disorder that can be accelerated with heavy cannabis use. Observational studies cannot confirm causation.

>>61085905
Nha it's really bullshit. I'm gonna be very chauvinist but if you want to smoke or get high, drink booze, or some dank wine, that's much better for you.

>>61085922
I don't really think so, Anon. Unless you bring me your doctorate of psychiatry to prove yourself right.
I'm on a team that analyze things that gives people the Big Crab of Doom. Weed is on it, but retardation seems to be a long hereditary thing in your legacy.

>>61086724
Oh i'm sorry if you are a retard who can't take a simple sentance
btw French is not invaded everywhere

>>61081320
Cannabis is less effective in the treatment of glaucoma than conventional treatment ny several orders of magnitude. To even approach the same effects you would have to smoke weed all day e'rry day.

Source: years of experience in ocular care, married an OD.

>>61085762
It *MAY* act as a trigger. Mental illness is largely due to genetic predispositions. If getting high as fuck doesn't do it, something else probably will.

>>61086523
I'm not gonna claim anything but if something kills cancer cells in vitro doesn't mean that it won't in vivo. Sure smoking cannabis won't have a good effect on your lungs, that doesn't mean that it alone in some medical form could have a beneficial effect.

>>61086898
What's a physical addiction and what's the opposite?

>>61086960
nice proof shitposter

>>61085922
Just keep telling yourself, that you are immune.
I won`t pay for your fucked monkeybrain.

I dont fucking care if people smoke weed. I just think we should tax the shit and let em. I mean shit let people monopolize weed and this prices will plummet circa 1980s level prices today.

>>61086210
You and every other pothead want to be a weed farmer, do you even know shit About herbalism? No. That's like someone saying their going to be a professional race car driver when they don't even have a driver's license.

>>61087093

>physical addiction

The term physical addiction is a little outdated. Addiction is mainly psycological.

Weed addicts use this "argument" (weed is not physically addictive) to justify their poor life choices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg

People thinking there is any withdrawal effects in quitting weed or any physical addiction are retarded.

If a person can't quit they have no willpower at all and quite frankly weed is a lesser of their problems.

t. former weed "addict" through 5-6 years, stopped within 1 day with no help.

>>61081320
Im an actual medical student so I think I should weigh in here, and tell you that the image is absolutely true.

>>61081320
Alcohol is no better. It makes you dumb for the period of time between use if you over do it. Other recreational drugs are the same since they mess with how your brain experiences pleasure and reward.

Why do anything? Happiness is in a pill or a syringe or you smoke it or drink it.

>>61086512
you'll murder them all once you finally lose it because of all the WEED you've smoked.

>>61087184
literally nobody has posted evidence for this schizophrenia meme

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Just a question :
WHY do you smoke weed? To look cool towards your friends? Feel like shit or something?

I'm not gonna be the shill for the worst pharmaceutical companies, including those who actually deal hardcore neurotoxins to "fight aids and cancer" here, but seriously, I think and know weed should remain illegal for good reasons.

>>61087241
And considering all the talk about Philip Morris buying warehouses for this exact purpose should make advocates worried, but for some reason it doesn't. I guess they don't see the writing on the wall:

Big tobacco will become big marijuana and there's nothing anyone can do about it

Cannabis chemicals (everything is chemicals, plants of course) get in the corpus callous and block the motor pathways and critical thinking functions of the brain, thus making you slow and retarded for a period of 2 weeks on average.

>>61087243
Yeah, every kid ever thinks that when weed becomes legal, they will be able to grow it for infinite money. When in reality you will have to have a herbology license and probably a degree to grow it legally. That and specialized guarded greenhouses, government checks, ect. Hell even then most these kids are just going to smoke their profits.
I on the other hand am going back to collage to learn some herbology, and busyness. So that way i can do what i described. Shit I dont even smoke it to begin with. I'm just in it for the money.

>>61087506
crippling depression and prozac has shit side effects, weed has helped some

>>61087506

What are the reasons?

nightmare mode: no anecdotal evidence

>>61085372
This. I smoked it on and off for about 6-7 years, in high school and all of university. I quit smoking last June in order to find a real job and havent smoked since. No physical reaction whatsoever.

>>61087243
Herbalism? this aint runescape you cunt.

>>61087326
Yeah, we need to define terms and I bet neither physical or psychological is really defined in this context. Otherwise I'd like to hear it. Apparently, substances will change your brain chemistry with sustained use and there will be physical withdrawal symptoms if you stop, but the process of getting and staying addicted obviously doesn't need to happen as seen in your video.

So when people say "it's physically addictive" or "it's psychologically addictive" I'd really like to know what exactly they mean. Otherwise everybody talks about something which isn't even defined.

>>61087506
Because it's literally the best choice of drug. Alcohol is just too much for me to handle.

>>61081320
Partly.

Cannabis has been shown to have useful pain management effects. All these other effects (curing cancer, healing injuries etc) is, as far as actual scientific studies have been able to show, total shit.

Cannabis can be habit forming like anything else that triggers a dopamine release however it has no direct chemical action to enforce addiction.

Low levels of cannabis usage has been shown to alter the development of the brain for young people. No changes were detectable for older people. So watch that shit while you are young.

>Drank
>Did E
>Smoked weed whenever I was offered it.
Work was hard, I fucked up a lot, couldn't sleep, basically everything. Felt depressed.

>Cut out everything except moderate alcohol
Everything is easy, more energy, sleepy when appropriate, people look up to me in work. Losing weight. Happy.

That's my anecdotal evidence. Of course maybe I did drugs because I was depressed and when my depression lifted I stopped needing the crutch.

>>61088025
Question: Does Morphine have a "direct chemical action to enforce addiction"?

>>61087333
i can attest its not easy quitting after being a regular smoker. no its not like heroin, but it is difficult nonetheless.

first i sleep like shit for about 3 days, tossing and turning, staring at my eyelids most the night.
im irritable as fuck, the slightest petty thing will piss me off
my body temperature is all whacky with the simultaneous hot/cold at the same time feeling
i have no appetite and have to force food down my throat against my will
things that were fun quickly become boring, namely vidya and tv
and simply not doing something which was a staple of my daily happiness makes me miserable (coupled with the fact the other things i do arent fun anymore)

its pretty shitty. but after 3-5 days that will subside and after about 5-7 days the body will start experiencing REM rebound and you will have some of the most insane and vividly clear dreams on a consistent basis. its been 2 weeks or so and im still getting these crazy dreams, kinda the only consolation, well that and having a very sharp mind that can solve problems much easier

Weed is not addictive in the same way heroin or cocaine is addictive, it's only psychologically addictive, which applies to nearly anything.

That being said, marijuana does affect the neurology of the brain via up and down regulation of neurochemical receptors, the exact effects of which are still largely unelucidated.

>>61088209
Watch >>61087326. How is heroin then?

>>61088193

Yes.

>>61088284
What does "psychologically addictive" mean?

>>61087623
Lol i have pot growing off some cheap florescent lights and garden soil

It's not rocket science

100% non addictive, I love weed and when I can I smoke every day all fucking day, however when it's necessary (right now, interning for college credit to graduate) I drop it easily and without a single side effect.

>>61081320
Weed is not highly addictive.

Alcohol, cigarettes and about every "hard" drug is more addicting than Mary Jane.

Does Weed have medicinal effects? Well, as for the "it cures cancer" I have my doubts. However its effective as a pain killer for patients with artritis etc. It also helps a great deal against stress and some experiments have even deemed it a successful drug against depression, since it activates certain receptors that are linked to depression.

Also to all:

>Dude weed lmao

Just because you dont want to smoke it, doesnt mean you have a right to keep others from using the holy herb.

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>>61087623
HUR I NEED A DEGREE TO GROW WEED

LITERALLY A WEED PLANT.

Muh nigger how many farmers in the world went to University?

>>61088357

When you do something a lot and it feels good you want to keep doing it and can feel bad or even scared at the idea of not being able to do it. People get psychologically addicted to wanking, eating food, etc.

The difference is that psychological addiction is not medically endangering. Coming off of heroin will make you feel like you're dying. Coming off of alcohol addiction can actually kill you.

>>61088357

It means you're a faggot you wants to stop but fuck it why should you right LOL SMOKE WEED ERYDAY

>>61088497

How many programmers in the world went to university?

The world is a big place, anon. You'd be surprised.

>>61088356
So it will change the brain chemistry in a more severe way than cannabis with sustained use? But it doesn't have to lead to addiction according to >>61087326, right?

>>61088551
I've never smoked weed.

>>61087673
And what if I told you weed is the cause of your depression and social anxiety?

>>61087756
Yep. preferrably only personal experience, not "I just read on slate that weed makes you a better person" or "all artists are smoking weed"

>>61087962
Well, drink moderately, and good stuff if possible. Still cheaper than weed.

>>61088512
Ok, but that's probably just a chemical change in your brain as well, isn't it?

>>61088876

Yes, in the same way all neural activity is just electrochemical activity, but it's a different class. Just wikipedia Heroin and go to the addiction section and it'll tell you the specifics.

>>61088069
I have almost the exact opposite. I cut out most booze and now stick to weed, and I'm happier and more productive for it. I assume you actually require alcohol to live though, like a robot.

>>61083288

Uh, are you fucking stupid?

If it doesn't do something bad to the user is that not a good thing?

>>61088689

>So it will change the brain chemistry in a more severe way than cannabis with sustained use?

Yes

>But it doesn't have to lead to addiction

Yes it will. Morphine addiction is a very real and serious problem. It's a controlled substance for a reason, so that people are less likely to end up taking it any more than is absolutely nessisary.

>>61088394
if you are in your early 20's or so its not hard to quit. the body restores itself vigorously at this age.

once you get to late 20's/30+ it becomes far more difficult

>>61087623

First, it's called horticulture.

Second, weed is easy to grow once you know how. You don't need a horticulture degree to do it well.

Third. a "business" degree is wise. Because once you find a market place overflowing with supply, you'll find demand for your second rate training bud is nil, you can go manage a mcdonalds.

>>61081320
Nope.

>>61088860
>And what if I told you weed is the cause of your depression and social anxiety?

I'd call you a retard because I had both way before I ever tried weed

>>61084880
q: synthetic canabinoid ?
or: destilled from natural controlled source ?

added chemicals to influence molecular structure ?

>>61088193
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_receptor

Extended, repeated chemical activation of these receptors alter the responses of the body/nervous system to the point where withdrawal is detectable as a shift in hormone balance and brain activity that is exclusive to opiates.

There is also the withdrawal from the normal reward system that any drug or addictive behaviour (even gambling or wanking can do it) but some drugs have distinct and separate actions that can make said drug far more addictive.

You cannot tell by the withdrawal markers for cannabis that a person is specifically suffering from cannabis withdrawal as opposed to some other habit forming activity/chemical without looking for and eliminating other markers. Cannabis can be addictive but it is entirely because it is a shortcut to the normal reward system of the brain with minimal outlay needed. It is addictive in the same way gambling can be addictive.

>>61088860
>what reasons?

>yep

>>61088860

>And what if I told you weed is the cause of your depression and social anxiety?

I'd tell you you're fucking retarded. Causes? No.

Exacerbates preexisting issues for some? That I would agree with.

If you're depressed and anxious, you need to get your head right before using any drug. Be it weed, alcohol or pussy.

>>61089816
Also... BIG fucking pharma stunts a trial with "cannabis based" substance that actualy kils some retard singing over his or her life to big pharma for money.

Big money pharma now can say "cannabis based products kill", "buy from us"

the "it's not addictive dude meme" is a meme, and I'm pretty sure that if you smome every day for an extended period of time it has very negative effects on concentration, short term memory and coordination. speaking from personal experience as me and a lot of my friends were addicted to weed in high school.

>>61081320
ask the thousands of Cancer patients who no longer have cancer if its true.

>>61090087
>>61090087
no you were not you are just a faggot

>>61089688

DUDE WEED LMAO! SMOKE MORE WEED LMAO IT WILL FIX YOUR DEPRESSION LMAO! YOU AREN'T AT ALL A STUPID FUCKING DEGENERATE LMAO!

>>61089110
Ok, but it apparently really needs the respective social component for a individual to get addicted as shown in the video. That' pretty impressive that it plays such a huge role.

>>61090087
so true.

so so true.

>>61090058
If you are talking about the trial I think you are, that was simply a highly concentrated dose. It was not tainted or adulterated in any way.

Any pleb that concentrated THC that heavily could do the same.

>>61090234

I didn't watch the video. But if it claims you need a social component to form a psychological addiction, it's wrong. Now, that can HELP.

>>61090212
do you die if you don't shitpost?

>>61090319

Do you die if you stop smoking the pot jew?

>>61090173
>I smoked american oregano once, so I'm an expert, thanks very much, praise marley

go away burgercalp.

>>61090402
I haven't smoked in months you dumb abo, go huff more gasoline

>>61090313
It talks about how medical patients / war veterans that used heroin for months just stopped. You can't explain that with just use = addiction. Watch it, it's very short if you want to know what I meant.

>>61081320
Mum smokes pot to so she can eat after having to swallow 5 pills that help her brain work, but kill her appetite.
Keeps me da and food down by smoking.

I have muscle weakness and body pains since I was 12, and startted smoking pot, in a way to deal with it.
I've been able to work out a blend strengthen my muscles, and dulled the pain I have.
>Fact: Pot is medicine. The findings by scientist Trump your feelings
>Vote Trump

>>61090513
Keeps her food*

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>>61090500

AYOO hol up you lying drug addict.

>>61090278
your first mistake is to trust ANY official CORPpharma statement. I worked in the field in a support position and these people dont give a fuck. Hell. the commision to set customer prices for medicine in the US is held by the pharma lobby themselfs. I worked for germasn pharma buying US cooperations and laughing our asses to the bank seeing 400% profits on fucking simple pills.

>>61089001
No. It's not good or bad.

>>61081320
Heavy users developed mental illnesses. But they smoked like 2 joints a day for life almost so hard to tell what a spliff here and there might do. Still inhaling smoke in lungs so maybe just have a brownie if you're a health nut.

>>61090646
Where does that meme (not Alberto Barbosa, but the guy in the hood) come from?

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>smoking weed

How's High School treating you?

>>61090741

Nobody knows (Hint: probably /x/). All I know is it's some Albanian guy in the hoodie.

>>61090654
They don't give a fuck but they are also far too incompetent to taint a study like that and not have it leak.

Just because big pharma are power-jews does not mean you need to drag out the tinfoil.

>>61086557
>So is there even a difference between physically addictive and psychologically addictive?
Yes

Physical addiction means your body cannot function properly without the substance. A heroin addict could very well die if he is deprived of heroin

Psychological addictions are, well, psychological. You feel like shit without pot, because DUDE WEED is the new norm for your brain and its feelings.

>>61081320
There are some benefits, but most can be extracted and used without most of the other side effects.

>>61088284
Heroine is an opiate. I am pretty sure your body goes through physical withdrawal I when u quit if your body has become dependant on it.

>>61090992
Is it somehow related to the phrase "2015"?

>>61091394

No, the phrase associated with the hoodie guy is

>It's getting cold isn't it?

I fucking hate dude weed lmao, I could even smell that shit from the Rijksmuseum.

>There are no conclusive studies about the medical benefits of cannabis
>But here's some shit we think it does

>>61091472
Something related to Winter-chan?

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>>61081320
>devil-and-angel strawmen

>>61091540

No, that came before hoodie guy. No one gave the hoodie guy a name.

The meme is nameless and it isn't really recorded. In fact it's dead now.

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>mfw I hold a job, and am going to university in the fall
>smoke weed
>enjoy it as one would enjoy a drink after work

>faggot stoners making a plant a central part of their life by creating a culture about it

You're not helping.

>>61081320
Cannabis can be a physical redpill

>>61091639
I mean, is "It's getting cold, isn't it?" somehow associated with both the hoodie and Winter-chan?

>>61091783

No, it's not associated with winterchan at all in that regard. The phrase "It's getting cold isn't it?" is to do with cold spots you may feel in a haunted house for example.

>>61091712
Doesn't your country have a religion based around smoking weed and it's full of people so brain addled that they can hardly function and regularly have psychotic episodes?

Someone who recently quit after about 10 years of smoking.

Weed fucking kills your brain. I know I'm all around slower today than I was when I was like 17. My memory and attention span have been absolutely ruined. Fuck weed and fuck the idiots who say "it makes you smarter". It does not fucking make you smarter. It can help twist your perception and see things from a different angle which people confused as intelligence, but really it;s just a sort of heightened sense of awareness that makes people go woooooooooah! But ultimately gives you no knowledge or enhances your actual intelligence.

It also is addictive but not in the same way dope or alcohol is. More the same way video games or food is but to a greater extent. I was absolutely an addict.

>>61091658
It's the same with alcohol and other (potentially) addictive substances and activities. About 5% of users become heavily addicted because of bad genetics and ruin the fun for everybody else. Nobody ever talks about the 95% responsible users because they are just normal people.

>>61093247
>95%
>normal users

Sure thing there, kraut.

I dunno about you guys but weed saved my life. It allowed my brain to take a load off and shattered some circular thought patterns and existential anxiety.

>>61091658

You aren't helping yourself though. If you want to use drugs that's fine, but if your using it everyday it's definitely affecting you incrementally. It's easy to smoke and still function normally in society, outside of looking like an air head a lot of the time.

>>61093353
Well, I got that statement from a lecture some professor who runs a rehab clinic for addicts in our town was holding. If you have more reliable statistics, I'm all ear.

>>61093604
>I got my information from an anecdote of an anecdote.

I could pull more reliable info out of my ass.

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OP
No, its not. Cannabis is good for you as long as you don't smoke it all the fucking time.

>every one who smokes are an oboxious faggot that brags about it all the time.
There is a fuckton of people that smoke regularly and you would never know unless they told you about it or if you work as a pizza delivery guy.

Not every one who smoke is a faggot that grows out dreads, wears a Marley t-shirt and Jamaican sweat pants and talk like a degenerate.

>hating on weed
>hating on acid
>hating on shrooms

This just means you're a hater in general, and that you will probably die angry, frustrated and misunderstood.

>>61093692
The 5% are based on hard numbers of actual alcoholism cases vs alcohol consumption per capita. Go ahead, pull.

>>61085088

By not being a weak-willed faggot that has to rely on a substance to get through the day. I don't "cope", I just do. Not everyone has a crutch because not even one is a limp-wristed faggot.

>>61094326
>the numbers for weed addiction are based on alcoholism.

What point are you trying to prove again?

>>61081320
Pot is rot, yo.

>>61094451
I'll try to elaborate for persons who are a bit slower in their heads:

> statistics prove that ca. 5% of people who consume alcohol become alcoholics
> alcohol is easily available everywhere, even advertised officially (though that has diminished)
> alcohol is objectively a 'harder' drug than weed and many other drugs when it comes to strength of addictive potential (they can measure that nowadays with brain scans) and harmful side effects

Point is, drugs are much less harmful and dangerous than most people believe. Alcohol, one of the hardest drugs, is freely available and sure it causes problems but yet our society is going on pretty well because most people aren't junkies.

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>>61094451
>What point are you trying to prove again?
That some people have addictive personalities and will fuck up and overdo it whether its pot, alcohol, slots, horses, porn, gaming, tobacco or just lurking on /pol/

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Friendly Reminder

>The same people who lap up the propaganda in those posters laps up this kind of propaganda too

>>61094336
"Govern wisely, and as little as possible"
Sam Houston

you statist commiefornian transplant cuck

>>61081320
Two Words, Snoop Dogg
>Implying those are words

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>>61095440
one word
>nigger

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guarantee most here hating on weed here have never tried it and are jealous

>>61081320
There is direct visible proof, e.g. spastic related illnesses.

>>61081320
I heard it heals umara composis

>>61081320
Both. Cannabis doesn't really have any real medical benefits, but at the same time, it's no more addictive than sugar and doesn't damage the brain at all. The only thing that really harms you, is the smoke, but there are edibles for that and it isn't the weed's fault, because smoking anything at all harms you.

>I don't like reality because it doesn't conform to what I believe

DUDE

>>61095329
That's not real...i-is it?

>>61086622
KEK
my life in one picture

>>61081320
It depends how it is cultivated. If no pesticides or herbicides are used and if it is not GMO, you can use the cannabis oil to cure cancer. But if you take it recreationally you're an idiot

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>people need experts to do research to decide whether inhaling smoke is bad for them or not

>>61095807
Potheads are incapable, wittering, subhuman, semisentient scum that should be incinerated like the trash they are.

At least most of the ones I know are

>>61095807
Cannabis has plenty of medical benefits you mutt.
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq

It contains strong antiemetic, anticonvulsant, and analgesic compounds (i.e. fucking medicine).

You're wrong again on the addiction. Cannabis dependence is a real thing

>>61095706
>or have a job and wouldn't go sucking cocks for weed under a bridge

https://youtu.be/_yHg_2JRcIk

>>61082710
DUDE, are you too fucking stupid too think of something original you cock smoking motherfucker?

>>61096176
and 6 gorillion volunteers to be gassed

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>>61096395
That doesn't count. That's like saying that lemons are medicine because they contain vitamin C.

>You're wrong again on the addiction. Cannabis dependence is a real thing
So is sugar dependence. Source: Pic.

potheads are hopeless degenerate hedonists desu

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>>61081320
Yes and no.

Cannabis is good for muscle spasms since it relaxes the muscles and is a good pain relief. It hasn't really been proven if its a better alternative to the painkiller and muscle relaxing drugs, But since the drug producers and companies are such huge assholes many prefer medicinal marijuana.

And using marijuana as a recreational drug is fine, but just like every other drug you can overdo it, So cannabis makes you stupid but only if you smoke it every day every week of the year. Treat marijuana the same way you'd treat alcohol and you will be fine.

Also the war on drugs is fucking ridiculous and its the duty of you Americans to end it now, Marijuana doesn't kill people the war on drugs does.

>>61096887
>drugs don't hurt nobody


https://youtu.be/vOvmbD_deKY

>>61082807
newfag

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>>61095706
This. Also this country is fucking retarded, do you remember Jacqui Smith?

>Jacqui Smith tells her team of professional chemists and health care consultants to study the effects of drugs and whether laws regarding them should be changed (this was while cannabis was still Class C)
>Based professor Nutt and his cronies give a report saying how cannabis is practically harmless and ecstasy is no more dangerous than riding a horse
>Jacqui Smith disagrees with the fucking professionals whose job it is to actually know these things and advise her
>She tells based Nutt to either change his findings or be sacked
>Tells her to go fuck herself and resigns
>Literally 90% of his colleagues resign with him in protest
>Jacqui Smith moves cannabis back to a Class B because she knows best and the police spending time solving actual crimes is less important

Our police force has the same mentality as liberals

>Target for the year is 1000 arrests as 1000 was the amount arrested the year before
>Only make 750
>To someone logical this means that 250 less people are committing crime
>To the police this means that they're missing their target and something has to give
>Better bring in some more bullshit laws that can make up for that missing 250

When does it stop? People start adhering to the law which means less crime but this also means that the police "aren't doing nothing" so to make them do something and "earn their money" we end up with more laws and make another bold step into a new police state.

>>61097070
When did pistols turn into drugs?

Because im pretty sure the drugs diden't shoot

yes that's why pharmaceutical companies are rushing to create cannabanoid derivatives as medicines

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>>61097307
the nutty professor amirite

>>61097466
>prescription drugs,m8

Just imagine that Oxicotine is a neo nazi, SD supporter.
Yeah, it's that bad. Like being against immigration or something, I dunno

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>>61097734
>tfw pro SD
>tfw your memes cant touch me

>>61081320
Well I can say from chronic use over the years you better be the type of person who gets shit done or your certainly not going to get anything done high.

>>61097307
Cannabis increases the risk of mental illness and cancer. A proven gateway drug for harder substances, pretty much ask any addict they'll say the same thing. They started with pot.

speed is fucking terrible drug thats highly addictive.

>>61097070
Thanks for proving the point that its the war on drugs that is the problem and no the drugs.

>>61081320
US government has submitted studies of cannabinoid oils efficacy in medical application

>>61081320
Yeah its probably true. I've known people who've become addicted to that shit.

>>61083038
tell me about your coffee "habbits" every morning
or how you have a "sweet tooth"

point being everyone is an addict, the body likes substances outside its constituents and cannabis happens to be one of them.

>>61082710
Don't trust this filthy olive, he can't even manage his own finances, let alone fucking read a medical article.

>>61096801
It's nothing like it, actually. Vitamin C is a micronutrient. You NEED it to survive.

CBD is a powerful anticonvulsant. It's used to treat epilepsy, and it's more effective than many of the anticonvulsants on the market now. THC and CBD are analgesics, like advil or tylenol. THC is an entiemetic, which prevents nausea and vomiting.

I have a feeling this is b8 because nobody can be this stupid. Then again, you are swedish.

>>61084771
Agreed. I do think about it when bored sometimes though

>>61084016
Even crystal meth isn't as bad as alcohol.

>>61081320
It's true. Making it legal and using false info is just big marijuana at work. It's Like cigarettes in the 40's. Just a big push for profits and people are falling for it.

>>61084066
>gastroduodenitis
>Russia
What, is that something you get when you have 20 abortions and 1 failed one?

>>61081320
No. While I do smoke, I don't believe it's some miracle drug that'll cure everything in sight. Maybe when it gets more legalized, people will start studying its medicinal values more.

>>61098129
>Cannabis increases the risk of mental illness
Only if you're predisposed to the illness. People with no genetic history of serious mental illness will not go crazy because they smoke cannabis.

>and cancer
That's debatable and there isn't enough information to prove it. Isolated compounds found in cannabis actually reduce the risk of cancer and shrink tumors.
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq

>A proven gateway drug
Not proven with any scientifically sound study.

>>61098164
>being this pathetic

It's like you are from Sweden or something.

>do you have a virgin 14 yr old in your family for a good price?
I give you some cash and you can get high while she gets impregnated.

Yes. Retards are willing to immediately swallow any pro-marijuana propaganda they come across though, so you're going to get opposition from those braindead losers

>>61084124
2+2=5, right you stupid faggot? Just because you don't want to admit you're addicted to a poisonous plant doesn't mean you're not addicted.

Fucking faggot, repeating stupid shit doesn't make it so.

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>>61083425
>.gov = totally unbiased study
Too much of anything is bad for you. Simple as that.
... Also look up brain plasticity, pleb.

>>61086622
Thank God i'm not stupid enough to be like that.

>>61098710
I don't know man you got to get really creative to get a fix if your out.

>>61081320
Nope, pure propaganda.
>>61082710
>>61082807
>>61082967
>>61083038
shills
>>61083549
This x100, this is the only reason that they say there are no PROVEN benefits, it's illegal to even do tests/studies.

>>61084719
>quit pot cold turkey after being a heavy smoker for years
>"man, I could really go for some pot right now"

>quit alcohol cold turkey after being a heavy drinker for years
>seize to death

Totally the same.

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>>61083425
>.gov

>>61099153
Countless studies have proven its medicinal properties and nearly half of all states have accepted it as medicine, yet the federal government refuses to recognize its benefits. Combine that with the climate deniers in Congress and it's proof enough that we're the most scientifically illiterate nation in the developed world. Fucking sad.

>>61081320
>lol guise, it totally reverses Alzheimers
>and it makes you wicked smart, opens your mind man
>oh shit where'd my keys go
>i could have sworn they were right...
>shit.
>but yeah man
>weed is totally the ultimate medicine
>it cures cancer
>and it increases your sex drive
>and boosts your metabolism
>unless you need to slow it down
>in which case it also does that
>and pumping massive quantities of THC into your system definitely doesn't fuck up your sleep cycle

>>61098265
>Being this clueless.

Just fuck off already.

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>>61099371
>in which case it also does that

>>61084519
Rather would hang out with a chill stoner than a drunkard who cant control himself

>>61083285
>neuropsychology.
Cuando seas medico hablamos.

>>61086473
I really really REALLY like this image. Mind if I save it?

>>61083549
Are you retarded? I work as a student in a lab at my university that deals with Cocaine.

If you have the credentials you can work with anything.

wow this proves the ladder test really works. hahaha

If drugs like xanax and oxycontin can have medical benefits, then so can cannabis.

If you believe "It can intoxicate you so it has no medical benefits" then 90% of drugs need to be taken off the market and banned.

>>61099884
>junkies lie all the time

and you think he will debate in fair grounds when he needs justification to get high...

>>61099884
Cocaine is schedule II you fucking moron

whenever i have a bad hangover, i just have a cone. hangover completely goes away in minutes. and after i come down from the weed high, the hangover stays gone. it's a fucking miracle drug and fugg da bolice for being such assholes about the use of it.

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Cannabis literally cures cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DttdDOqQMuY

>>61098262
nice projecting

i smoked weed for years and through those times i took medium-to-long term breaks from it. never got any physical withdrawls or anything.

weed isn't addictive but it is highly habituative. with strong willpower habits can easily be broken.

it's not like alcoholics, where if they stop drinking they are literally at risk of dying (see: Amy Whinehouse)

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>>61100835
>they tried to get me go to rehab

>>61100451
>cures cancer
I love when pot heads say stupid ass shit.

>>61100835
I see weed in the same light as coffee. It's a harmless, routine habit that helps people get through their day. You can get really nerdy about weed and coffee, too. The only difference is coffee is actually physically addictive, and smoking weed can actually harm your body.

>>61098262
I fucking hate coffee and sugar addicts too to be honest. Tobacco and alcohol too.

>>61100973
Jesus fuck has anybody clicked on the link and read the whole thing>
>>>>> http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq

Comprehensive, well-referenced summary on weed and cancer. Get your facts here son.

>>61100688
I was in an office the other day and the receptionist kept incessantly asking her supervisor that she "NEEDED a coffee break NOW" and got increasingly agitated as her break wasn't scheduled yet.

people get addict to that shit man, also with alcohol.

it's almost as if the war on drugs is a complete sham, not aimed at actually stopping drug use, but aimed at promoting it's use so the police can raise more revenue for the almighty state.

they say weed is a gateway drug, maybe so. but alcohol clearly is as well.

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>>61081320
it's on a public poster..it must be true then..

Difficult one this t b h.

Is there any reason to actually legalise pot though?

This is purely anecdotal, but the difference in life success between my friends who smoked weed and didn't smoke weed is pretty large.

>>61101367
i think those who smoke weed for their whole lives, fuck their lives up royally. there always has to be that eventual moment where you just say "STOP! FUCK THIS SHIT I'M MOVING ON".

people get a fresh perspective on life from weed that people who are straight edge will never even experience. depending on the person, there's either room for failure or room for success in it's use in my humble opinion.

>>61101367
>but the difference in life success between my friends who smoked weed and didn't smoke weed is pretty large.
stop making sense

>>61101367
>Is there any reason to actually legalise pot though?
Keeping it illegal is a huge waste of taxpayer money. Legalization provides quality control for medicine. It would cut billions of dollars from reaching violent cartels. It's a taxable commodity. It's easier for a 14 year old to get weed than beer. Making it legal would keep it out of children's hands.

https://www.rt.com/news/329059-clinically-dead-cannabis-trial/

1 dead, 5 in serious condition after 'cannabis-laced' clinical trial in France
Published time: 15 Jan, 2016 12:06

>>61081320
yes it is addictive the only benefit to legalizing it is to save tax payer money other than that its a fucking plant that has no positive effect and only small negative effects waste of fucking time in all honesty

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>>61081320
>Cannabis is addictive

>>61098262
>body craves sugar because glycolysis requires it
>organisms have been evolutionarily selected to seek out sugar aka energy

To your body denying access to those five or six carbon molecules is like depriving it oxygen and water.

As for coffee, people like to stay awake and get more things done. Plus it has sugar in it.

>>61102362
a healthy balanced diet provides lightyears more energy than coffee, with no "crash" and is much longer lasting.

coffee is a shortcut to a false feeling of vitality that wears off very quickly, resulting in cravings for another cup o' joe.

why do you think comparing sugar intake to oxygen/water intake is a logical comparison?

i could not consume any sugar today without dying, but i couldn't stop consumption of oxygen or i would die very quickly.

>>61082987
>no bedtime
I don't know why but this is cracking me up

>>61090896
This is the epitome of bullshit. Are you stuck in High School? Why the hell does your whole world revolve around teenagers?

>>61083285
>what is pain relief
>what is nausea relief
>what is appetite control
AND STILL YOU SAY NO MEDICAL USE? Look at valium, look at everything else marijuana is similar too. These drugs all have uses. Marijuana has use as a drug too. Can you grow valium in your backyard? Fuck no. Why would you exclude marijuana from pharmacopia???

>>61103031
pharmaceutical industries are deathly afraid of mary jane becoming legal because it would threaten their profit margins drastically. also it would allow people to gain a fresh perspective on the world around them and reject certain pre-conceived notions about the corporate propoganda constantly shoved down their throats on a daily basis.

basically the only reason it is still illegal is because certain organizations want to keep profitting off of it's illegality.

>hey mate so i hear you've got some strong leg pain? here have this highly-addictive oxycodone instead of weed