YO YO YO YO YO YO HOL UP HOL UP *smacks dry lips* YOU GOD SHIT ALL WRONG HOMIE 420 WEED KUSH SMOKE DANK NO BEDTIME INJECT THE MARY JANE INTO YO CANCER BAM THE ANSWER PARK STARK LARK NO LOVE FOR A NARC what the fuck was I doing again? oh right WEED WEED WEED SMOKE WEED DOOBIES WEED WEED 420 NO BEDTIME BLAZE IT FAGGOT
>>61081320 Former student of neuropsychology. Cannabis or thc actuates as antidepressor. Depending of its grde is like taking orfidal, valium or even more. Consider to take pills without fucking prescription. Longer than a year Longer than 2 years Correlating the drug to a social enviroment >smoking the jew grass is not the best choice unless your former job is exposer in the momma or millonaire.
Empirically chronic usage of weed does not appear to be good or benign.
>Our findings demonstrate that adolescent THC administration is associated with persistent neuroinflammation within the PFC and provide evidence for a causal association between microglial activation and the development long-term cognitive deficits induced by adolescent THC treatment.
I can corroborate this anecdotally. We humans are "adolescents" with developing brains until about 23. Every friend I had in HS that started regularly (weekly/daily) smoking weed (or bongs, or edibles, or whatever) and did so for years (I stopped interacting with them at ~20, so it had been 4-7 years of usage) aside from becoming increasingly more insufferable with their "DUDE WEED I GOTTA GET MUH HIT MUH EDIBLES MUH WEED MUH WEED" also became noticeably slower and dumber (as if their minds were in some kind of fog).
If weed is to be legalized, the legal age should be 25.
Marijuana being a Schedule 1 banned narcotic in the united states, makes it insanely difficult to do any legitimate science with it. So even if we wanted to do study on medical benefits. It is just to hard, with all the government red tape.
Nicotine has been proven to be more addictive than Heroine. Yet remains legal. So is alcohol.
>>61084016 >Meanwhile im at work >Everyone compliments me on the work i do and how i keep busy >Someone bitchin about people who smoke and work >I come out to them >Im fucking blazed right now >They dont believe me >Its true though 420 blaze it erryday faggots and i do better work than everyone in the office and make more than straightedge posters on 4chan Lmao @ youre life!
>>61084016 Eh aside from the worst dudebro's I find DUDEWEED's to be a myth, at least in terms of aggressiveness. The people I knew who were addicted to weed were very self aware about their habit, even when they were 420BLAAAYZUHHHHUH, and more common were just normal people who happened to smoke weed but could go without it.
>>61084227 I quit 1 day to another after smoking for several years. No treatment, no withdrawal, no nothing. Just met a new co-worker that day and decided that if I am going to have a chance with her I should probably not be "dude, weed, lmao"
So quit being a pussy, there is no addiction - just no desire to quit.
>>61084227 same here...I've got no problem people smoking it, but it killed all my ambitions and made me a socially retarded fuck. I stopped smoking it for more than a 2 years now, life's so much better without it. I still don't agree with it being illegal though. What you cause to your own health is not the governments fucking business.
Science anon here. (ONCODESIGN, Dijon) There's a fact about weed and its active molecule, THC many labs have found about: Marijuana definitively decreases the production of testosterone. A regular smoker who rolls about one joint per day will see his T being drastically reduced. This is a little study done over a 365 year period from 2003-2004 to see if there were anything good about vaping the equivalent of one joint per day, so you don't smoke tobacco and have "all the best of the weed"
Not only this would be strictly illegal, but also it's an information we cannot publish for obvious reasons, and others that are more political.
I'm gonna start some experience based on the statistic of transgender people, or people diagnosticized with gender dysphoria who used to smoke, or still smoke weed, this will be seen discriminatory but I will do it anyways, I think we're about to find something that explains the cause of gender dysphoria. There is a link here, between that cause of depression AND the consumption of marijuana.
Also I stopped smoking weed. Making it vapable in case it becomes legal will be a disaster.
>tfw picking up a q later Feels good man. I don't care if it's good for me or not. When I get drunk I black out, get into a bar fight, and puke all over my clothes. When I get stoned I eat so much I get a stomach ache. I'm just picking the lesser of my two vices.
I would honestly like to see it made legal in the UK at least for medicinal reasons (Kek) just for the amount of profit you can make by it, being your own boss essentially and marketing your own product.
I have plans set out for when it does become legal, until that day il just keep working my day job.
>>61086130 ok Estonia tell me all about how my country should be run while youre still banging rocks together to make fire, what happened you kidnap a UN peace keeper and steal his laptop before boiling him alive in an oversized soup pot?
>>61086210 if that ever happens there will be major growers already lined up to sell an market it professionally and they will very quickly lobby for regulations which would make it impossible for individuals to grow and sell it.
>>61086083 So is there even a difference between physically addictive and psychologically addictive? In the end it's all complex brain chemistry stuff. Hard addictions heavily change circuits apparently.
>>61085354 It's funny because they evidently only cause dependencies under the right social circumstances. Morphine, the hardest shit ever, for example.
Until it is properly legalized in places that actually matter, you're never going to have the research on what aspects of it are good and bad. Legalization both means people can do it, but at the same time, might learn that doing it isn't what it cracked up to be.
>>61085905 Nha it's really bullshit. I'm gonna be very chauvinist but if you want to smoke or get high, drink booze, or some dank wine, that's much better for you.
>>61085922 I don't really think so, Anon. Unless you bring me your doctorate of psychiatry to prove yourself right. I'm on a team that analyze things that gives people the Big Crab of Doom. Weed is on it, but retardation seems to be a long hereditary thing in your legacy.
>>61081320 Cannabis is less effective in the treatment of glaucoma than conventional treatment ny several orders of magnitude. To even approach the same effects you would have to smoke weed all day e'rry day.
Source: years of experience in ocular care, married an OD.
>>61086523 I'm not gonna claim anything but if something kills cancer cells in vitro doesn't mean that it won't in vivo. Sure smoking cannabis won't have a good effect on your lungs, that doesn't mean that it alone in some medical form could have a beneficial effect.
>>61086210 You and every other pothead want to be a weed farmer, do you even know shit About herbalism? No. That's like someone saying their going to be a professional race car driver when they don't even have a driver's license.
>>61081320 Alcohol is no better. It makes you dumb for the period of time between use if you over do it. Other recreational drugs are the same since they mess with how your brain experiences pleasure and reward.
Why do anything? Happiness is in a pill or a syringe or you smoke it or drink it.
Just a question : WHY do you smoke weed? To look cool towards your friends? Feel like shit or something?
I'm not gonna be the shill for the worst pharmaceutical companies, including those who actually deal hardcore neurotoxins to "fight aids and cancer" here, but seriously, I think and know weed should remain illegal for good reasons.
>>61087241 And considering all the talk about Philip Morris buying warehouses for this exact purpose should make advocates worried, but for some reason it doesn't. I guess they don't see the writing on the wall:
Big tobacco will become big marijuana and there's nothing anyone can do about it
Cannabis chemicals (everything is chemicals, plants of course) get in the corpus callous and block the motor pathways and critical thinking functions of the brain, thus making you slow and retarded for a period of 2 weeks on average.
>>61087243 Yeah, every kid ever thinks that when weed becomes legal, they will be able to grow it for infinite money. When in reality you will have to have a herbology license and probably a degree to grow it legally. That and specialized guarded greenhouses, government checks, ect. Hell even then most these kids are just going to smoke their profits. I on the other hand am going back to collage to learn some herbology, and busyness. So that way i can do what i described. Shit I dont even smoke it to begin with. I'm just in it for the money.
>>61085372 This. I smoked it on and off for about 6-7 years, in high school and all of university. I quit smoking last June in order to find a real job and havent smoked since. No physical reaction whatsoever.
>>61087326 Yeah, we need to define terms and I bet neither physical or psychological is really defined in this context. Otherwise I'd like to hear it. Apparently, substances will change your brain chemistry with sustained use and there will be physical withdrawal symptoms if you stop, but the process of getting and staying addicted obviously doesn't need to happen as seen in your video.
So when people say "it's physically addictive" or "it's psychologically addictive" I'd really like to know what exactly they mean. Otherwise everybody talks about something which isn't even defined.
Cannabis has been shown to have useful pain management effects. All these other effects (curing cancer, healing injuries etc) is, as far as actual scientific studies have been able to show, total shit.
Cannabis can be habit forming like anything else that triggers a dopamine release however it has no direct chemical action to enforce addiction.
Low levels of cannabis usage has been shown to alter the development of the brain for young people. No changes were detectable for older people. So watch that shit while you are young.
>>61087333 i can attest its not easy quitting after being a regular smoker. no its not like heroin, but it is difficult nonetheless.
first i sleep like shit for about 3 days, tossing and turning, staring at my eyelids most the night. im irritable as fuck, the slightest petty thing will piss me off my body temperature is all whacky with the simultaneous hot/cold at the same time feeling i have no appetite and have to force food down my throat against my will things that were fun quickly become boring, namely vidya and tv and simply not doing something which was a staple of my daily happiness makes me miserable (coupled with the fact the other things i do arent fun anymore)
its pretty shitty. but after 3-5 days that will subside and after about 5-7 days the body will start experiencing REM rebound and you will have some of the most insane and vividly clear dreams on a consistent basis. its been 2 weeks or so and im still getting these crazy dreams, kinda the only consolation, well that and having a very sharp mind that can solve problems much easier
100% non addictive, I love weed and when I can I smoke every day all fucking day, however when it's necessary (right now, interning for college credit to graduate) I drop it easily and without a single side effect.
Alcohol, cigarettes and about every "hard" drug is more addicting than Mary Jane.
Does Weed have medicinal effects? Well, as for the "it cures cancer" I have my doubts. However its effective as a pain killer for patients with artritis etc. It also helps a great deal against stress and some experiments have even deemed it a successful drug against depression, since it activates certain receptors that are linked to depression.
Also to all:
>Dude weed lmao
Just because you dont want to smoke it, doesnt mean you have a right to keep others from using the holy herb.
When you do something a lot and it feels good you want to keep doing it and can feel bad or even scared at the idea of not being able to do it. People get psychologically addicted to wanking, eating food, etc.
The difference is that psychological addiction is not medically endangering. Coming off of heroin will make you feel like you're dying. Coming off of alcohol addiction can actually kill you.
Extended, repeated chemical activation of these receptors alter the responses of the body/nervous system to the point where withdrawal is detectable as a shift in hormone balance and brain activity that is exclusive to opiates.
There is also the withdrawal from the normal reward system that any drug or addictive behaviour (even gambling or wanking can do it) but some drugs have distinct and separate actions that can make said drug far more addictive.
You cannot tell by the withdrawal markers for cannabis that a person is specifically suffering from cannabis withdrawal as opposed to some other habit forming activity/chemical without looking for and eliminating other markers. Cannabis can be addictive but it is entirely because it is a shortcut to the normal reward system of the brain with minimal outlay needed. It is addictive in the same way gambling can be addictive.
the "it's not addictive dude meme" is a meme, and I'm pretty sure that if you smome every day for an extended period of time it has very negative effects on concentration, short term memory and coordination. speaking from personal experience as me and a lot of my friends were addicted to weed in high school.
>>61090313 It talks about how medical patients / war veterans that used heroin for months just stopped. You can't explain that with just use = addiction. Watch it, it's very short if you want to know what I meant.
>>61081320 Mum smokes pot to so she can eat after having to swallow 5 pills that help her brain work, but kill her appetite. Keeps me da and food down by smoking.
I have muscle weakness and body pains since I was 12, and startted smoking pot, in a way to deal with it. I've been able to work out a blend strengthen my muscles, and dulled the pain I have. >Fact: Pot is medicine. The findings by scientist Trump your feelings >Vote Trump
>>61090278 your first mistake is to trust ANY official CORPpharma statement. I worked in the field in a support position and these people dont give a fuck. Hell. the commision to set customer prices for medicine in the US is held by the pharma lobby themselfs. I worked for germasn pharma buying US cooperations and laughing our asses to the bank seeing 400% profits on fucking simple pills.
>>61081320 Heavy users developed mental illnesses. But they smoked like 2 joints a day for life almost so hard to tell what a spliff here and there might do. Still inhaling smoke in lungs so maybe just have a brownie if you're a health nut.
Someone who recently quit after about 10 years of smoking.
Weed fucking kills your brain. I know I'm all around slower today than I was when I was like 17. My memory and attention span have been absolutely ruined. Fuck weed and fuck the idiots who say "it makes you smarter". It does not fucking make you smarter. It can help twist your perception and see things from a different angle which people confused as intelligence, but really it;s just a sort of heightened sense of awareness that makes people go woooooooooah! But ultimately gives you no knowledge or enhances your actual intelligence.
It also is addictive but not in the same way dope or alcohol is. More the same way video games or food is but to a greater extent. I was absolutely an addict.
>>61091658 It's the same with alcohol and other (potentially) addictive substances and activities. About 5% of users become heavily addicted because of bad genetics and ruin the fun for everybody else. Nobody ever talks about the 95% responsible users because they are just normal people.
You aren't helping yourself though. If you want to use drugs that's fine, but if your using it everyday it's definitely affecting you incrementally. It's easy to smoke and still function normally in society, outside of looking like an air head a lot of the time.
OP No, its not. Cannabis is good for you as long as you don't smoke it all the fucking time.
>every one who smokes are an oboxious faggot that brags about it all the time. There is a fuckton of people that smoke regularly and you would never know unless they told you about it or if you work as a pizza delivery guy.
Not every one who smoke is a faggot that grows out dreads, wears a Marley t-shirt and Jamaican sweat pants and talk like a degenerate.
>>61094451 I'll try to elaborate for persons who are a bit slower in their heads:
> statistics prove that ca. 5% of people who consume alcohol become alcoholics > alcohol is easily available everywhere, even advertised officially (though that has diminished) > alcohol is objectively a 'harder' drug than weed and many other drugs when it comes to strength of addictive potential (they can measure that nowadays with brain scans) and harmful side effects
Point is, drugs are much less harmful and dangerous than most people believe. Alcohol, one of the hardest drugs, is freely available and sure it causes problems but yet our society is going on pretty well because most people aren't junkies.
>>61094451 >What point are you trying to prove again? That some people have addictive personalities and will fuck up and overdo it whether its pot, alcohol, slots, horses, porn, gaming, tobacco or just lurking on /pol/
>>61081320 Both. Cannabis doesn't really have any real medical benefits, but at the same time, it's no more addictive than sugar and doesn't damage the brain at all. The only thing that really harms you, is the smoke, but there are edibles for that and it isn't the weed's fault, because smoking anything at all harms you.
Cannabis is good for muscle spasms since it relaxes the muscles and is a good pain relief. It hasn't really been proven if its a better alternative to the painkiller and muscle relaxing drugs, But since the drug producers and companies are such huge assholes many prefer medicinal marijuana.
And using marijuana as a recreational drug is fine, but just like every other drug you can overdo it, So cannabis makes you stupid but only if you smoke it every day every week of the year. Treat marijuana the same way you'd treat alcohol and you will be fine.
Also the war on drugs is fucking ridiculous and its the duty of you Americans to end it now, Marijuana doesn't kill people the war on drugs does.
>>61095706 This. Also this country is fucking retarded, do you remember Jacqui Smith?
>Jacqui Smith tells her team of professional chemists and health care consultants to study the effects of drugs and whether laws regarding them should be changed (this was while cannabis was still Class C) >Based professor Nutt and his cronies give a report saying how cannabis is practically harmless and ecstasy is no more dangerous than riding a horse >Jacqui Smith disagrees with the fucking professionals whose job it is to actually know these things and advise her >She tells based Nutt to either change his findings or be sacked >Tells her to go fuck herself and resigns >Literally 90% of his colleagues resign with him in protest >Jacqui Smith moves cannabis back to a Class B because she knows best and the police spending time solving actual crimes is less important
Our police force has the same mentality as liberals
>Target for the year is 1000 arrests as 1000 was the amount arrested the year before >Only make 750 >To someone logical this means that 250 less people are committing crime >To the police this means that they're missing their target and something has to give >Better bring in some more bullshit laws that can make up for that missing 250
When does it stop? People start adhering to the law which means less crime but this also means that the police "aren't doing nothing" so to make them do something and "earn their money" we end up with more laws and make another bold step into a new police state.
>>61096801 It's nothing like it, actually. Vitamin C is a micronutrient. You NEED it to survive.
CBD is a powerful anticonvulsant. It's used to treat epilepsy, and it's more effective than many of the anticonvulsants on the market now. THC and CBD are analgesics, like advil or tylenol. THC is an entiemetic, which prevents nausea and vomiting.
I have a feeling this is b8 because nobody can be this stupid. Then again, you are swedish.
>>61098129 >Cannabis increases the risk of mental illness Only if you're predisposed to the illness. People with no genetic history of serious mental illness will not go crazy because they smoke cannabis.
>and cancer That's debatable and there isn't enough information to prove it. Isolated compounds found in cannabis actually reduce the risk of cancer and shrink tumors. http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq
>A proven gateway drug Not proven with any scientifically sound study.
>>61099153 Countless studies have proven its medicinal properties and nearly half of all states have accepted it as medicine, yet the federal government refuses to recognize its benefits. Combine that with the climate deniers in Congress and it's proof enough that we're the most scientifically illiterate nation in the developed world. Fucking sad.
>>61081320 >lol guise, it totally reverses Alzheimers >and it makes you wicked smart, opens your mind man >oh shit where'd my keys go >i could have sworn they were right... >shit. >but yeah man >weed is totally the ultimate medicine >it cures cancer >and it increases your sex drive >and boosts your metabolism >unless you need to slow it down >in which case it also does that >and pumping massive quantities of THC into your system definitely doesn't fuck up your sleep cycle
whenever i have a bad hangover, i just have a cone. hangover completely goes away in minutes. and after i come down from the weed high, the hangover stays gone. it's a fucking miracle drug and fugg da bolice for being such assholes about the use of it.
>>61100835 I see weed in the same light as coffee. It's a harmless, routine habit that helps people get through their day. You can get really nerdy about weed and coffee, too. The only difference is coffee is actually physically addictive, and smoking weed can actually harm your body.
>>61100688 I was in an office the other day and the receptionist kept incessantly asking her supervisor that she "NEEDED a coffee break NOW" and got increasingly agitated as her break wasn't scheduled yet.
people get addict to that shit man, also with alcohol.
it's almost as if the war on drugs is a complete sham, not aimed at actually stopping drug use, but aimed at promoting it's use so the police can raise more revenue for the almighty state.
they say weed is a gateway drug, maybe so. but alcohol clearly is as well.
>>61101367 i think those who smoke weed for their whole lives, fuck their lives up royally. there always has to be that eventual moment where you just say "STOP! FUCK THIS SHIT I'M MOVING ON".
people get a fresh perspective on life from weed that people who are straight edge will never even experience. depending on the person, there's either room for failure or room for success in it's use in my humble opinion.
>>61101367 >Is there any reason to actually legalise pot though? Keeping it illegal is a huge waste of taxpayer money. Legalization provides quality control for medicine. It would cut billions of dollars from reaching violent cartels. It's a taxable commodity. It's easier for a 14 year old to get weed than beer. Making it legal would keep it out of children's hands.
>>61081320 yes it is addictive the only benefit to legalizing it is to save tax payer money other than that its a fucking plant that has no positive effect and only small negative effects waste of fucking time in all honesty
>>61090896 This is the epitome of bullshit. Are you stuck in High School? Why the hell does your whole world revolve around teenagers?
>>61083285 >what is pain relief >what is nausea relief >what is appetite control AND STILL YOU SAY NO MEDICAL USE? Look at valium, look at everything else marijuana is similar too. These drugs all have uses. Marijuana has use as a drug too. Can you grow valium in your backyard? Fuck no. Why would you exclude marijuana from pharmacopia???
>>61103031 pharmaceutical industries are deathly afraid of mary jane becoming legal because it would threaten their profit margins drastically. also it would allow people to gain a fresh perspective on the world around them and reject certain pre-conceived notions about the corporate propoganda constantly shoved down their throats on a daily basis.
basically the only reason it is still illegal is because certain organizations want to keep profitting off of it's illegality.
>hey mate so i hear you've got some strong leg pain? here have this highly-addictive oxycodone instead of weed
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