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>http://www.dw.com/en/eu-launches-first-ever-rule-of-law-review-against-poland/a-18975646

Debata over Poland on tuesday 19.01
What's it gonna be, Polacks? Majdan 2.0? Sanctions? Absolutely fucking nothing?
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Absolutely fucking nothing until Polish economy collapses and people have to pay 10PLN for a loaf of bread.
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EU only cares about money, if they don't lose or gain anything they wont bother.
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>>61062960
And it's a healthy approach polish guvmint should try for once.
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>>61062849
But this 100% pure blooded aryan german ubermenchen herr Schultz is """GRAVELY CONCERNED"""" about the status of polish democracy. Surely, some immediate action is in order?
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>>61063434
I get mad every time I see that greedy fuck and his ugly face. People like pic related used to be voted into office: former Generals, diplomats etc. Basically the elite of the country who had the best interest of the country at heart and would stomp the shit in of anyone who threatened these interests.

Now socialist parasites like him are voted into office, who couldn't care less if a million Somali's or a millions Germans voted them into office. They're not worried about their own country turning into Refugeestan with daily rapes of native women, instead they want to police other countries who are not progressive enough. REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>61063434
There will be no direct action whatsoever, just bitching.
And he's somewhat right, you know. They're setting dangerous precedents and setting in motion mechanisms which can later be used by someone directly opposed to the idea of "democracy".
Him not being 100% pure aryan has nothing to do with that fact. The shit implemented by our current government is outright dangerous if there happens a power shift, and so are all the constitution hacks employed by them so far. That shit needs to be changed and made foolproof, but given our traditionally enigmatic and mystical letter of the law it's never going to happen.
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>EU
coulda just stopped there m8
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So what's the deal with Poland? Culturally and socially you guys seem based, you have the slav conservative values but are better off economically and more westernized than all other slav nations, it sounds pretty awesome
Is what your leader doing really a threat to democracy? Why did they remove the power from the courts? Are there truly media restrictions?
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>>61064004
Dude, teddy was a progressive back in the day...
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/pol/: libertarians celebrating and defending loss of freedom of expression
poland: commies being commies
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>>61064192
>all other slav nations
Except for Slovenia, Czech Republic and Slovakia. Possibly Croatia too.
There are no real media restrictons, they are just changing the national media decisives for their own. It happens with most governments and isn't exactly that weird, however the media legislature they pushed can eventually lead to proper restrictions and censure. But it's just a possibility at this point.

About the constitutional court, prosecution and so on, it's just sitting on all the power. That's why they put it all under the ministry of justice control, earlier it wasn't DIRECTLY under it's control but everyone knew it can be influenced anyway. We're kinda low on ethics in that regard.

As is these aren't outright horrifying changes, but they give the government, be it this one or the one that follows, all the tools they need to severely fuck our "democracy" up.
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>>61064211
I he were alive today the media consider him to be a crazy far right loon. Which is very sad when you think about it.
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>>61062279
>sanctions

don't you need approval from every member for that?

we got you covered senpai, do whatever the fuck you want
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>>61064562
Hungary voted for the control, anon. Orban is happy to have someone else get flogged by the UE for the time being, and we don't really have anywhere else to go should they bring out the whip, unlike you.
We ain't exactly lovey dovey with Russia.
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>mfw germany is concerned about the freedom of polish media
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>>61064646
It's called retarded political correctness in their case. And since political correctness is so loved by the UE it's not an argument, sadly.
Yes, they are hypocrites and retards for this, but you can't really point it out to them without antagonising their idiot politicians further.
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Can Poland just leave EU just to give the middle finger to Germany?
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>>61064624
>we don't really have anywhere else to go

you don't have to desu

pic related, search your feelings you know it to be true
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>COUNTRIES ALL OVER EUROPE PASS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, UNDEMOCRATIC PRO-EU SHIT, NOT A WORD
>POLISH GOVERNMENT TIRED OF 70% GERMAN OWNED MEDIA BRAINWASHING THEIR PEOPLE WITH PRO-EU PROPAGANDA, IT IS NOW A SERIOUS THREAT TO GLOBAL DEMOCRACY

Welcome to Europistan
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>>61064211
it is okay to be progressive, as long as you are heading for the right direction. the problem with progressive movement today is that everyone just wants to keep on moving forward, even if there is a cliff in front of them.
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>>61064837
Ex-jugoslavs, Czechs and Slovaks are pro-western in most regards except for the immigrants.
Rest is even less relevant than Poland, with the notable exception of Hungary and Slovenia, with the last one just kinda being there.
Ukraine, Belarus and so on are either under Russia indirectly or going to be soon no matter how much they Majdan.
Northern slavs are busy trying to not get boned by Russia.

You can afford a fuck you to the EU, we can't.
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Germany will invade poland.. again.
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>>61064920
>PRO-EU SHIT
See, that's the part that matters. If you britbongs decided to pull something even more "ridiculous" to the EU than our guvmint, you'd get a bad look from Merkel and co. Because you can afford to secede.
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>mfw pollacks will change their policy soon for more gibsmedat
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>>61065040
exactly. poland is getting an unfair amount of shit, simply because with their basedness they are challenging the ridiculousness of the EU. states like the UK can do that due to their power, but mama merkel wants to suppress anybody else that dares try.

stay strong mariusz, don't let the kikes get you again.
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>>61065087
>germans import niggers and give away more gibsmedats
>bully smaller states into doing the same
>are glad about it

that's why you deserve to be outbred by the sandniggers, disgusting german cucks.

instead of fighting for your country, jack off to other countries possibly seeing the same fate as you.
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>>61065089
The point is we have to leech off the EU and build up stuff ourselves, but nobody even tries to do it in any reasonable way. Instead they're trying to just eat the growth that managed to happen. If they keep giving away the wealth the nation manages to generate, our poor country will never be rich or strong enough to say fuck you to some of the more retarded EU policies.
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>>61064956
do you have autism? i was kidding man, intermarium is just a meme

>You can afford a fuck you to the EU, we can't.

not so sure about that, you said that we're buddies with russia but i highly doubt anyone here thinks that except for fidesz
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>>61064211
Most liberals/progressive politicians back then would be considered nazi extremists.
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>>61065199
your country, if you play your cards right, already has enough infrastructure and the potential to be strong, even without europe.
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PiS right now voting about a bill that would allow agencies to install you a gov virus. they wouldn't even need an agreement from the judge or anything, its enough if some officer though that you are suspicious.

http://www.gazetaprawna.pl/artykuly/917901,sejm-ustawa-o-policji-inwigilacja-sluzby.html

GREAT PARTY. /POL/ YES.
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>>61065202
You can actually trade with them. 80% or so of our food exports (pretty big deal surprisingly) went to Russia. It doesn't anymore because we kinda messed with Putin about the Crimea and earlier stuff. And you get better rates on their oil and gas.
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>>61065254
to be honest, if i were polish, i would rather have a mad christian for a few years and fuck things up for the next 10 years than a mad feminist who would import 2 million niggers and fuck things up for the next 1500.
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>>61065155
>>are glad about it
who said that? it's shit, I wished we also wouldn't accept even a single "refugee".

nontheless, Poland forgets that they are by far the biggest receiver of EU money of all countries and will change there policy which is sort of funny compared to their current stance
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>>61065252
It does, but it's horribly wasted at the moment. And PiS doesn't really have a clear idea of what to do about that, instead they have to focus on their silly promises. The bank tax and hitting the tax evasion corporations (especially supermarkets) will generate money, but it won't be spent in any sensible way.
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EU are USSR lovers in denial.
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>>61065392
Buy our meat Ivan.
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>>61065392
>not using the economic capabilities of europe with the military strength of putin and russia to dominate the USA and the rest of the world

we should all be one big friend.
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>>61062279
absolutely fucking nothing because the whole EU project lacks teeth to do anything against a rogue state which wouldn't dance to their tune

Basically EU project assumed that such things would be unnecessary and everyone will be building leftist nationless oh so tolerant state. Surprise, surprise, world doesn't work that way.

I have no love for what PiS is doing but the Brussel kikes can honestly fuck themselves and piss off.
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>>61065467
>england
>friend of anyone but kikes
>not the biggest destroyers of Europe
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>>61065532
>germany
>starts 2 world wars
>europe finally at peace
>decide to import literal millions of niggers
>destroy europe AGAIN

nah, i think we're second.
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>>61065155
Merkel is carrying out Kalergi's policy of erasing from existence the white races of Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPTGTpzbiI
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>>61065554
>>germany
>>starts 2 world wars
stopped reading there. go educate yourself
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>>61065286
can I have neither? or can we at least not pretend that poland government is okey and will make poland great again? it won't do shit. their only positive is their anti immigration policy. the rest is full church socialism bundled with nepotism and politicizing the whole bureaucracy(surly party member will make great CEO's!). And its just a few months.

>what can go wrong
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>>61065505
This

The whole EU was based on the theory that every government would be full of good goys who never even try to resist.

The second you put in ANY effort at all the whole thing goes to shit. Hell Germany can't even invade since their soldiers are all armed with broomsticks.
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>>61065612
Polish nepotism will always be better than foreign nepotism
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>"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others which have been tried."

Where did this meme come from?

Not even the most tyrannical King tried to democide his own people by mass importing hostile, foreign peoples to live within his Kingdom.
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>implying your allowed to place sanctions on our border against Russia

The EU is just throwing a bitch fit, nothing will come out of it.
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>>61065612
If they fail their promises, once people notice a price shift they will be pretty damn fucked. Muh bread is all that really matters here after all.

Or if they ever pacify the KOD babies with police or military. That's where they'll fuck up too.
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>>61065716
Just buy us already. You need a new state, the ones you have are old and busted.
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>>61062849
just send all the homeless, poor, mental asylum and prisoners to germany like castro did to the US
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>>61065467
This is what delusional Eurocucks believe.
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>>61064192
it is exactly how you say it is, and the media is not being censored by any means. The current gov does what other did, which means they put their people and journos in charge of public tv. The fact these are probably shit journos doesn't matter, people will just tune into other channel if necessary.

the courts still have power, and the constitutional tribunal is something that nobody gave a fuck about anyway, starting with the previous government which was so admired in the EU. Is it messed with now? It is. Is it legal and within bounds of law? Probably not. Was previous gov illegaly messing with it before. Sure. But there was no bitching about it then.
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>>61062279

Leave Poland be. Why is the EU so jealous that Poland has better leadership than them?

Spiteful cucks...
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>>61065790
If you take all the Mexicans, sure.
They'll probably just escape to Germany.
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>>61065704
That was Churchill m8

but the EU isn't really a democracy at all anyway.
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>>61065846
Everyone wins.
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Poland is asking for it again.
We must liberate it.
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>>61065569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riQh4Qpvxm4
Gregor Gysi is a Jew btw. Oh vey!
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Not only nothing will happen to Poland but also it will hit Germany even more. People are waking up slowly but steadily. In Poland we are already awake. Inb4 EU will end in Germany collapse while a new EU emerges with Germany as everyone bitches
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>>61065881
No Ivan don't fall for Jew tricks again. We should be friends, not enemies.
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>>61065825
The tribunal's duty was to check if the legislation pushed by the government is done in accordnance to the constitution. If you impede it, you can push ridiculous shit without much resistance except for the meek "pls no" from other parties.
It's obviously not a dangerous thing in itself, but it can be used wrongly.
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>>61065827
>murilards always go "muh constitution hurr"
>suddenly support country that wants to change the constitution, taking away freedoms
Australians might be the shitpost kings, but muricans are the ignorant retard kings.
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>>61062279

I guess I don't understand, what are they going to do, force you to take refugees? A few sanctions?

If they send the immigrants your way just tell them to fuck off and send them back.

I don't get it? All your politicians have to do is have a backbone.
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There is only one way to solve this, lads:
Germany has to ally with Russia and get sovereignity of USA and NATO and Poland has to join without the fear to get backstabbed.

Europe together with Russia is the one thing the high finance and US/Israel fears the most, because we would be unstoppable.
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>>61065977
We get tons of dosh from the EU. If they cut it a bit, the economy here will suffer.
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>>61065954
Go get raped by a refugee, Hans
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>>61065977
from the article
>The rule of law investigation could lead to the application of Article 7 of the Treaty of the European Union, which would see Poland's voting rights within the bloc suspended.
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>>61062279
>Soros funds anti-governmental activism for 150 million in the name of democracy
>Polish government takes control of government owned media outlets to counter Soros
>EU calls Poland undemocratic
>EU expresses worries over freedom of speech in Poland
Could EU be more Kalergian? Funny to see politicians praising EU's current alignments.
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>>61066014

Your country will be worse with arabs
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>>61065954
We can do whatever the fuck we want you fucking cuck.
It's called ruling the world, you tried several times and failed.
Deal with our retarded bullshit and learn to live with it.
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>>61066031
>insert generic yankee insult here
>hurr murrika number 1, cannot be infringed, muh melting pot
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>>61065881
Russians don't realise this, but they always (thrice) invaded Poland when they were controlled/hijacked by Germans/Jews.
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>>61065589
Keep pretending you do not wanted the first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agadir_Crisis
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>>61065987
That would be cool, with normal leadership...
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>>61066091
That's not the thing EU is bitching about. Notice that Czechs, Slovaks and so on aren't exactly welcoming immigrants or they're doing everything they can to let them safely pass to Germany, Austria style.
We have shit welfare, it's not like they'd stay here anyway.
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>>61062279
Nothing will happen. Merkel is just on suicide watch and tries to distract people form shitstorm in Germany.
Nothing will happen because politicians already are preparing fucking endless list of cases where previous goverment shat on constitution, spied on journalists, politicians in opposition, civilians, corruption, etc. and then akks where the fuck was EU defending democracy then.
EU will have to dropp this theatrics to cover fellow leftists asses.
EU is already on a brink of falling apart and last thing they need is central-eastern Europe saying fuck you to them.
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>>61066152
Going all "yeah they did that so we can too" doesn't really add you any credibility.
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>>61066143
The zionist EU puppets like Merkel/Schulz along with the other Anti-Germans in our parliament are the problem sadly
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>>61066081
this.
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>>61066100
You can't come up with anything they've done that's remotely unconstitutional

You're just a pro refugee cuck who wants to see Poles raped as much as you are.
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>>61066102
how about Polish invasions of Russia?

Actually, you can't say that one country invaded the other. It was basically western catholic Russians fighting eastern orthodox Russians for control for several centuries. The language was almost identical and before the revolution Russian-Polish families were very widespread.
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>>61066176
He does have a point with merkel is trying to distract the Goymany people and the EU with Poland and Hungary "undemocratic" laws
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>>61065554

don't mention the bloody war
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>>61066081
Former Polish president (Bolshevik ancestors, traitor, criminal, WSI agent) gives out one of the highest Polish orders to...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Batory_Foundation

P.S. Soros has been highly involved with the post 1989 regime change in Poland.
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>>61066332
You can quite clearly say that Poland did indeed invade Russia during the time of troubles.
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>>61066271
Read through the thread, I am not.
Apart of generic anti-german shitposting in spite of denial being the greatest melting pot and literally the bad example Europe has to counter to not become like them, Americans are rarely posting something with knowledge above meme tier contents.

I haven't even said anything about Poland acting unconstitutional, that was you. But of course your reading comprehension lacks since you like to focus on hurr germany is cucked, why don't you kill Merkel etc.
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>>61066335
He does. But it's still true that making the constitutional court functionally unable to do anything isn't a good thing. They could have revoked the judges previous government appointed and left the court the way it is. Giving it bullshit restrictions and making it answer to the ministry of justice (part of the government they're supposed to check for following the constitution) isn't anything good. Okay, so maybe the current government won't do anything outlandish with this. But what happens if they lose in the next election? What if the next government uses all the tools the current one left to fuck shit up into North Korea? With one or two pushes they will be able to start doing that.
This is why people are bitching about it so much.
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>>61066332
>how about Polish invasions of Russia?
You mean one 17th century invasion? After countless of Muscovite invasions before.

>It was basically western catholic Russians fighting eastern orthodox Russians for control for several centuries.
Okay, you're totally deluded. You better walk off the Russian Empire propaganda train for our own sanity's sake.
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>>61065589

holy shit - we started the war

Polnische Banditen attacked the radio station in Gliwice, you had no choice but to build camps and eradicate subhumans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
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>>61066102
>controlled/hijacked by Germans/Jews.
implying it's something bad
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>>61065661

This. I prefer Poles fucking this country than foreigner fucking it even better.

But who knows, maybe we have actually learned something and it will not be that bad?
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>>61065954
There is no matter of more importance than ensuring a future for white people.

Forget about bullshit constitutions. If they facilitate alien takeover of your nation then they're worthless.
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>>61066621
Because yes, the Bolshevik revolution turned out so great for the Russian Empire, didn't it?
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>>61066545
Sure kekden, you, of course, know it better.

>You mean one 17th century invasion? After countless of Muscovite invasions before.

that made me laugh so hard
is that what you are told at school?
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>>61066176
>yeah they did that so we can too
Did what exactly ? PO-PSL broke constitution with that 2 extra judges and put 5 judges to Tribunal. Now how do you expect PiS to select which 3 should be chosen ? Drawing straws ? As for media government is supervisior of public TV, they can fire and hire anyone they want. Just like governments before then and in other countries.

The real reason for shitstorm now are banks and big space stores taxes. Western companies will no longer be able to rip Poland off (mainly German) so now they are using EU to blackmail Poland. But they will fail and in the end weaken EU.
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>>61062279
>Absolutely fucking nothing
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>>61066667
You do know that the 17th century "invasion" was AFTER Russia joined war on Sweden side right ?
So Russia started that conflict not Poland.
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>>61066663
Implying that bolsheviks were Jews.
You know, the real cause was big social problems and that stupid tsar started war with Germany
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>>61065938
Decoding our constitution is like fortune telling from tea dregs, it's such cryptic and vague bullshit. You know the constitutional court is only there for show, in reality it's just another political tool to be used by whoever manages to put the most plants in it.
Until it's chosen directly by the people, like the senate, it's worthless and not worth defending. And it's not like our constitution is the best shit ever, either.
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który już raz to odgrzewasz? wczoraj tu byłem i był ten sam temat
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>>61066667
>>61066773
Pointless shit. slavs fighting slavs, whites fighting whites.

We've got bigger fish to fry than ancestral irredentism bros: Non-Whites.
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>>61064971
>Germany will invade poland.. again.

That might be a bit more difficult the next time around.

While Germany gets a big boost in its score due to its finances, Poland has a significant advantage in terms of things like total troops available (combined active and reserve numbers), tank strength, towed artillery, and one or two others I believe.

Let's not also forget the fact that a ton of poor Polish men are beating the shit out of each other for fun at soccer games. Germany may have a higher population, but a bunch of chubby wimps on rollerblades would fold like a high card to a royal flush.
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>>61065987
Is taking unlimited number of refugees a first step in that glorious plan?
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>>61066841

>forgot link

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=germany&country2=poland&Submit=COMPARE
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>>61066773
Damb shit, Poles, why do you always dig the fucken history so fucken deep? Nobody cares about this shit today
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>>61066841
Bundeswehr would get BTFO'd by the Greek Army, let alone the Polish one.
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>>61066667
Yes, I know better, and thus I'll educate you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Russian_War
I'm counting the 1605-18 WAR as ONE invasion that came from the PLC. I hope you're not counting the individual battles and troops movements as each invasions throughout these years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Muscovite_War_(1605–18)
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>>61066663
Globalism is literally the same as Bolshevism. This goes along with corporatism and cultural marxism.
Call them Jews, Jesuits, Zionists, whatever. In the end it is the high finance who controls and spreads this.
Germany was the only country trying to counter that but we failed. The plan was nationalism and cultural preservation in its respective countries.
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>>61066671
You're already paying for the bank tax though. You. Not the banks.
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>>61066779
>plying that bolsheviks were Jews.

definitely not
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>>61066793
Yes, and same goes for our magnificent laws. Which is what should be subjected to change, not the functionality of the "lawkeeping" organ. Even if it's there just for show.
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>>61066926
>Germany was the only country trying to counter that but we failed. The plan was nationalism and cultural preservation in its respective countries.
Fuck youself, moron. The plan was to destroy "degenerative" nations, like Jews, Poles, Russians and almost Slavs
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>>61066922
>Wikipedia History Degree

seems legit
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>>61066671
They should choose the 3 the same way they are always chosen. They can't actually do much anyway but it makes it look better. And looking decent is a big deal in politics.
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>>61067001
Nice german surnames
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>>61064837
IMPERIUM OF THE STENCH xD

EU WE WAR YOU xDDDDD
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>>61067065
Wrong, you were useful idiots of the Jewish bolshevists who send millions of European russians into war against Germany to get them killed.
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theres no country in the EU without under an under investigation
so theyll "investigate" then find nothing unless they want to blackmail you into something

yes you need approval of all states for anything serious
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The game is over Poland.
Prepare to obey the European Goyunion or face Russia taking a piece of your country like Ukraine
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>>61066534

1. current government is not restricting your freedom in any sense more than the previous one, if you think otherwise it is a meme generated by GW
2. if thing will go North Koreish one of the neighbours will help, I assure you

PO was so bad, I can't even, I can't even right now
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>>61067239
Pls start with the south.
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>>61066922
The whole history of bitter relations starts somewhere here if not earlier:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw_I%27s_intervention_in_the_Kievan_succession_crisis
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>>61067327
You can read more about it here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Poland
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>>61065254
ever heard of "Bundestrojaner"?
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>>61067239

what if we sell you one big national company?

oh, fuck all sold, what now?
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>>61067258
The internet and so on thing disagrees with that. Especially since it's the ministry of justice who can decide who to bug now. Aka the government. Not the Police or the courts. The earlier shitters did similar things but they were illegal. They can and most likely will get chewed for it. Currently it's ok because the basis for invigilation is a "yeah he's suspicious all right".
Earlier it was illegal but they did it anyway, now it's legal.

And we shouldn't rely on neighbors to save us from going best Korea, there should be laws and mechanisms not allowing that to ever happen. Which are openly getting removed even if they were a joke in the first place.

In no way should someone leave a loaded gun on his desk and then hope for his neighbor to save him once his drunkard cousin grabs it and starts shooting.
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>>61066897

That would be fucking hilarious. Seeing Germany litterally getting BTFO'd by a country whose corrupt politicians took on bad deals to buy military equipment from Germoney.
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>>61066850
My proposal is the opposite of what is happening right now and contrary to EU policies. Are you dense or something?
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>>61067528
It's true though, Greece has conscription and can manufacture small arms and light vehicles, in addition to their existing military equipment.

The most important part however is that the average Greek would fight for his country, whereas the average German would only fight for BBC/Islam.
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>>61067173
Learn history faggit. Poles fought bolsheviks before anyone else. All nazis acgieved was killing our people along with the communists they hated
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>>61062279
This pretty much means that Poland stops being a sovereign country. Traitors from your last gov couldn't handle being BTFO so they went to EU and made sure that your Constitutional Court will protect interests of Germany. RIP Poland. It seems like you simply can't be a free country as long as you're stuck between two massive cunts with imperialistic dreams.
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>>61067612
Meanwhile average Pole already has routes to Mexico or Brazil prepared.
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>>61067239
>or face Russia taking a piece of your country like Ukraine

Well, as long as jewish oligarchs don't fund extremists, and jack up the rates on US bonds to the point where Poland would have to default on their payments, thus giving birth to some ridiculous credence of Poland being under control of some satanic regime, that must be overthrown with hire mercenaries, and bombed with freedom, well, I don't really see anything happening with Poland.

Ukraine on the other hand......
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>>61066897
>>61067612
>underestimating Germanys industrial potential and organizing ability which could setup a machinery of war within hours
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>>61066779
>Implying that bolsheviks were Jews.
They were! Please educate yourself.
MOST of the most important persons in the Bolshevik revolution and party were Jews. Supported and funded by rich influential Jews from the U.S. (Jacob Schiff) and Germany (Max Warburg).
The purpose was to overthrow the Russian Empire and start the worldwide communist revolution ("founder" Karl Marx - Jew), beginning in Europe and joining up the communist revolution in Germany (10 out of 11 leaders were Jews).
This was a new (20th century) irritation of Adam Weishaupt's (founder of the Bavarian Illuminati - a Jew) global domination plan aka New World Order, ordered on behalf of Mayer Amschel Bauer/Rothschild (a Jew).

Karl Marx was definitely Jewish - On the Jewish Question (1843), The Communist Manifesto (1848) etc.
Vladimir Lenin had Jewish blood, because his grandmother and grand-grandfather were Jewish.
Like most important people in the Bolshevik faction and/or leading the Bolshevik revolution:
Leon Trotsky was a Jew (already mentioned) - Commissar for Foreign Affairs
Moisei Uritsky was a Jew
Yakov Sverdlov was a Jew
Grigory Zinoviev was a Jew
Lev Kamenev was a Jew
Adolph Joffe was a Jew
Grigori Sokolnikov was a Jew
Nikolay Krestinsky was a Jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c
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>>61065569
thanks for video. Angela is part of the white race, which makes it interesting.

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

-Marcus Tullius Cicero
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>>61064004
its fucking travesty made to replace real democracy when some foreign fucks have power over your nation

add to it EU Council of and the European Commission which are not elected at all and basically dont report to anyone in the nations
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>>61067730
I prefer Paraguay.
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>>61067860
Who would man it? Your 125mm broom is useless if your populace is too cucked to kill a roach.
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>>61067860
>Underestimating the fact you're going to fight a largely modern army with people who are literally prepared to die for their country, unlike yours

How many casualties do you think the Germans would be prepared to take?

Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if the red pilled component of your army defected to the Greeks and began a march on Berlin. Now THAT would be awesome.
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>>61067964
Offer Arabs citizenship if they join the army. Hashashin tank platoons.
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>>61067964

>1 point for team Greece
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>>61067549

You know what? I like Germans but living in the way you like would be hell for me, literal hell.

And you would like to impose it on me, because you think better of yourself.

And they would not allow that to happen.

Sometimes I feel sorry for you.
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>>61067903
Elites are above the race. It's like playing a grand strategy game for them. They view people as cattle. Keep the population up and make sure they give enough milk! Iter-breed them or slaughter when needed. All for greater good and profit!
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>>61067894
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin
"He (Lenin) befriended Russian Jewish Marxist Julius Martov."

" Lenin had suggested that Trotsky take the position of Chairman of the Council —the head of the Soviet government— but Trotsky refused on the grounds that his Jewishness would be controversial, and he took the post of Commissar for Foreign Affairs instead."

"During the Civil War both the Red and White Russians committed atrocities. The Red Terror was Lenin's policy (e.g. Decossackisation i.e. repressions against the Kuban and Don Cossacks) against given social classes, while the counter-revolutionary White Terror was racial and political, against Jews, anti-monarchists, and Communists, (cf. White Movement)."

"He (Lenin) also staunchly criticised anti-Semitism within the Russian Empire, commenting 'It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers, who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism.'"

"Lenin was privately critical of Russia, describing it as "one of the most benighted, medieval and shamefully backward of Asian countries". He was similarly critical of the Russian people, informing Gorky that "An intelligent Russian is almost always a Jew or someone with Jewish blood", in other instances admitting that he knew little of Russia, having spent one half of his adult life abroad"
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>>61067964
>>61068013

It is all about leadership. The Germans have a weird understanding to obey the leadership, let it be Hitler or Merkel.
If we had a different leader, Germany could become new Nazi Germany in a heartbeat.
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>>61066396
I want these people to hang
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Nie wiem co jest gorsze. PiS, który próbuje w Polsce stworzyć drugie NSA i najwyraźniej wchodzi w dupę USA czy PO i EU, którzy chcą nam wcisnąć ludzkiego raka w postaci arabusów i starają się nam zabrać suwerenność.
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>>61062279
Maidan 2.0 is a ridiculous notion. I feel that there are going to be sanctions. They are not going to call them that, as passing real sanctions requires unanimous vote (and it's not just Hungary, that would oppose it). But a form of sanctions will happen. There are going to be programs cancelled and funds stopped, all for some nefarious reasons, allegedly not connected to Polish goverment situation.

But Poland can endure. It can take it. They'll hate us for it, but that's the point of Poland, it can be the outcast. It can make the choice that no one else can make, the right choice.
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>>61068064
>Offer Arabs citizenship if they join the army. Hashashin tank platoons.

>implying they even understand written German language
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>>61068162
I still have a lingering suspicion this whole immigrant shit is a plot to get the west to hate arabs enough to fuck up the middle east and subjugate them
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>>61068298
Technicznie rzecz biorąc to i tak okroili projekt inwigilacji złożony przez Platformę. Nawet najgorsze aspekty programu PiS to i tak mniejsze zło w porównaniu do propozycji PO.
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>>61068240 (You)
In Life Magazine and Look Magazine of the 16th of January 1962, David Ben Gurion, Zionist, atheist and first prime minister of Israel stated, while still in office:

“The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: The Cold War will be a thing of the past. Internal pressure of the constantly growing intelligentsia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure of the masses for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of the Soviet Union…[Glasnost, Perestroika & Gorbachev were right on time in 1987 and going according to plan]

“…On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and farmers, and the rising Political importance of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a Socialist and democratic regime.

>“With the exception of the U.S.S.R. as a federated Eurasian State, all other continents will become united in a world alliance at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations will build a shrine of the prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah…
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>>61068486
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>>61062849
I pay $3.50 for a loaf of bread at my polish deli...
is this cause for a happening?
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>>61067512

internet i tak jest inwigilowany i to nie wiadomo do konca przez kogo

a ja dzis w wyborczej czytalem, ze to wlasnie policja bedzie mogla czytac co tylko chca

nalezy pogodzic sie z tym, ze skonczylo sie smieszkowanie i pisanie w internecie to tak jak krzyczenia na rynku w srodku miasta
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>>61068309
Having your economy fucked for the sake of ideals is stupidity. Just like having it fucked by inviting shitskins.
This whole martyr cult has to finally go.
Also, Hungary voted for the audit. Orban would actually welcome getting some heat off his ass.
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>>61067440
yes but it doesn't mean we should have on either. the way its going it seems like they will soon forbid encryption like in the UK.
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>>61068486
God dammit it's always them.
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>>61068611

look, ideas DO count

> what is science?
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>>61068343
Nah, there are far easier ways to find a cause for war without fucking up your own country.
And quite the contrary - now EU can't wage a fullscale war on Mid East cause there are too many muslims in EU and they would blow it up from the inside.
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>>61068578
Policja będzie pod bezpośrednią kontrolą Ministra Sprawiedliwości, razem z prokuraturą. Projekt PO powinni byli udupić i skombinować nowy, który mniej w oczy kole nieważne jak bardzo TVN szczeka. Przycinanie gównianego projektu żeby przeszedł to nie jest dobry pomysł, nieważne jak bardzo użyteczny może być dla wadzy.
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>>61062279
I don't know who I hate more, the eu commission or that tinfoil hat that literally believe in russophobic conspiracy theories.
I'm confused.
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>>61068309
If they cut gibsmedats we fucking pack up and leave, it's the only thing holding us there, and they know it too.
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>>61068704
Ideals not ideas.
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>>61068768
Then who the fuck benefits. Jews really don't so far.
USA? China?
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>>61068611
I know Hungary voted for audit. That was the right way to go. That makes him seem impartial. But mark my words, once it comes to sanctions, it's not only Hungary that will oppose it. I expect at least Czechs, Lithuanians and Romanians to veto it as well.
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>>61069029
Why? They have nothing to gain from that. And despite what our magical guvmints say and said, this is what actually matters. Nobody'sgonna die for Gdansk.
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>>61068264
I hope you realise that George Soros (Schwartz György) is a Jew. He even got an order from his fellow Jewish tribesman Adam Michnik's (Szechter) Gazeta Wyborcza...
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>>61068698
It is.
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>>61068897

it is for fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

I guess
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>>61069132
We need Poland's partnership more than you need us, so I think Hungary will veto any real sanction. Poland is a big country that cannot be ignored, we are just 10 million europoors. So it's our best interest to have a regional ally opposing EU and Germany/France on some issues. Also Orbán probably think that protecting Poland's government is good because hes doing some shenanigans himself so he can maybe expect a similar protection.
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>>61070183
And in doing so he'll be branded again.
All this could've been avoided if our current government was subtle with this shit.
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>>61065589
WE WUZ GOOD BOYS
WE DIN DO NUFFIN
WE WUZ JUST TRYING TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK TOGETHER
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>>61068162
Spot on.
>>61068343
Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LjvSIBKVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvhIYNzBtLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TvSiYu8z2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Pm2Zpbq_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw9EhjyU3JU
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>>61064837
Why do we hesitate to take over all this west cucks? We're apparently more in numbers and in manhood.
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>>61070693
Because morons here are afraid you'll Bandera our eastern border when we do.
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>>61070382
I agree. But Kaczyński is old, and he knows that once he is gone from politics, PiS is going to collapse. So he needs to act quickly. He simply cannot waste a single month any more.
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>>61068803
Pretty much this, desu.
Merkel is now trying to bluff using EU when everyone in the game knows her bluff.
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>>61070799
Well, when people here say that they want fredum and sovereigity, they mean they want fredum from russia to become polack.
Ukraine has been proving its failed state for all the history. All will be glad to unite with poland.
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>>61070924
>Kaczyński is old
He has no wife to suck life force out of him so he will live long. He's 66, I can see him living past 80.
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>>61071064

> wants to attack the West
> wants to unite with Poolan

being this delusional
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>>61070799
That's something that we all share, Lithuanians for example think we'll Piłsudzki them again when we get the chance. Slavland is a paranoid place.
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>>61070924
But it's stupidity. These tools are dangerous as fuck and once they slip and someone they're hounding wins all of PIS will get severely fucked by their own devices.
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>>61071177
No, i mean west is all not proud slavs.
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>>61065954
>Hans, the destroyer of Europe
>not realizing how many times we have amended our constitution
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>>61071158
I agree with a lot of their program but seeing the way they do things it's better he died sooner than later. Intentions are all right but their ways are destructive.
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Just work 40 hours a week.
And make your country great.
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>Special Forces invade Wprost during POs regime
>no one cares about our DEMOCRACY
>new political ruling force changes people in the media as they always do
>MUH DEMOCRACY WE NEED TO SAVE POLAND
I wonder if it could be because the pro-germanic propaganda is losing their people here, hmmm
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>>61071469
Can I do it in the Netherlands?
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>>61071441
Same here. PiS is far from great party but it is what Poland needs now. In 4 years the perfect situation would be if PiS, Korwin and Kukiz were in Government and together had Constitutional majority to change the constitution and make a new one together.
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>>61071488
>literally illegal invigilation of high-ranking government officials by an unknown party
HMMMM GEE I WONDER WHY THEY GOT GRILLED FOR SOURCES
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>>61071655
No. Kukiz is a loon and I do not want PiS to fuck with our constitution, thank you very much. It needs to be someone impartial, aka nobody on the current scene.
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>>61071064
Unrealistic tbqhf but I will take a bait anyway. If you really want to join us that badly why dont you make some referendum? You know that kind of shit like annexion of your country will never come from our side right?
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>>61068679
Something is not banned in UK ? Encryption, useful knives,sharpened sticks etc ?
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I don't care, what these far-left bitches from Brussels will pronounce. The people, which are considering the curve of banana or cucumber, they aren't interesting for me.
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>invigilation
typical pollack's mistake XD
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>>61065532
Germany collaborated with the Muslims during world war 2. Hitler was a big fan of Arabs.
Germany is the biggest destroyer of Europe.
Churchill was an enlightened patriot, who fought for Freedom and Europe.
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Strong man for times of tensions. Merely he is capable for stem that crisis.
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>>61072099
nobody is offended by this
what are you going to do now?
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>>61071158
Heard he keeps some prime pussy at home.
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>>61072171
Hmm shitposting after school ?
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>>61071556
ONLY and ONLY if you learn the Dutch language, do not go live in a Polish ghetto
and leave your Polish roots behind.
Don't be alcoholic and wear some normal clothing instead of jogging pants.

You'll learn our culture and learn to be Dutch or you'll get the fuck out
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>>61072316
I know a few words in Afrikaans. Can I go?
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>>61072171
Telling the truth about pope. I'm from wykop. Why do you deny the pope's greatness. He loves people, especially the children.
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>>61072369
Before you emigrate to a country you must first be able to speak it's language.

So learn it now or never come.
Don't come here and THEN learn it. You['ll never integrate. You must be able to speak it atleast 80% before you come. If you're not serious about learning a language you're not worth living here.

Next elections Geert Wilder's going to be our PM and he's heavily criticial of Polish immigrants also because they don't integrate. They keep to themselves in their own neighbours. They live together and don't learn the Dutch language. They just come here to enjoy your welfare system and higher wages. They're not immigrants, they are leeches. Don't be like them.
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>>61062279
this kike's a filthy jew. did you hear his 'Germany owes' rambling? don't ever trust pooland
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>>61072316
I won't give up the kirwas or sweat pants of my forefathers. But your country clearly needs an alcoholic janitor with a phd.
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>>61062279
This shit is why we can't have nice things.
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>>61070799
>claiming Volhynia was real
>being this delussional
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>>61072635
Then don't come here motherfucker.
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>>61072603
>bitch about the poles who keep to themselves and actually work
>meanwhile invite arabs who don't even plan to work
This always makes me giggle.
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>>61072539>>61072539
>>61072539
>>61072316
Plz no Polish ghetto. I used to live in UK (not so long time). Poles are quite problematic in big groups. Locals are fine if you do shitdomu as they do. Same as you said be guest not burden
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>>61062279
No one cares about your godawful 3rd world country, Poland.
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>>61072871
t. British Caliphate
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>>61072871
Germany cares i think
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>>61064459

No he wouldn't be.

He started an anti-trust case against Standard Oil and Great Northern Railroad because he didn't understand economics quote ``Standard Oil created "enormous fortunes" for its owners "at the expense of business rivals"``.

He also broke the constitution (the 10th ammendment) quote "I bid you pay no heed to any other authority, no heed to a writ from a judge, or anything else excepting my commands."

Source: Intellectuals and Society

You're glorifying the wrong guy.
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All I can say is to all our brothers over in Britain, please try to help sway everyone towards leaving the EU.

The EU has to go. It's nearly at the heart of the problem.
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>>61073385
Nah the problem is the rampant socialism and political correctness idiocy. Open-ish borders are a good thing.
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>>61073385
All we need is 1 country to leave and it will collapse like a house of cards. As Adolf said
>"Kick open the door and the whole rotten structure falls down"
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>>61073539
1 actually important country like britbongistan or Saudi Germany.
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>>61072316
I don't think such a thing as Dutch language even exists. I've heard you guys speak. Admit it, you're all just a bunch of Germans with throat cancer.
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>>61071441

What the fuck is their program? They're only consolidating power.

I know I might be in the minority but I actually want results not rhetoric. Their policies are fucking socialist-pleb except the one about the minium wage... which won't fucking enter the parliament in the first place.

So the only thing they actually do is introduce leftist policies and power grabbing. Whoopie-fucking-do
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>>61064103
Oh, hello Schlomo.
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>>61074220
Anti-immigration policies, that tax-free thing. Not being an EU puppet in all things. But yep all they do is reach for power and squat all over it.
I'm not surprised, honestly. I didn't vote for them either. Instead I got fooled by cuckiz.
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>>61062279
>Majdan 2.0

Nothing man. Everything is cool so far.
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>>61074748

They're backing out of the tax-free rate. Haven't heard anything about immigrants.
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>>61064837
>serbia
>macedonia
>bulgaria
>BiH
>montenegro
>ukraine
>belarus
>moldova

all my keks, these countries are relatively low in HDI and of questionable "European" genetics.

sure they are mostly European but the more you travel to the east, the more hunnic/mongolian/gypsy mutts will you find.
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>>61075078
They also won't implement the 500 this year. So yeah.
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>>61068309
Poland is the hero we deserve
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>>61075603

I hope they won't implement the 500 thing, ever.
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GET IN HERE U FAGS

>>61075698

>>61075698

>>61075698

>>61075698
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>>61075682
I thought it would be abused by degenerate families with multiple kids to buy alcohol or cigs, but you will be only able to buy things to support kids and food with this money.
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>>61075910
And instead they're making sure nobody will be able to use that money.

Best part is there actually are numerous, numerous retards who took loans hoping for the +500's to help them pay them off.
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>>61076056
People also expected government to help them after franc crisis, what can i say idiots everywhere
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>>61066128
>implying france didn't want the first as well to stop the rise of the central powers
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>>61075910

That's how it "works" in MOPR.

You get bonds for food, kid clothes etc.

Then the wonderful gentlemen and ladies buy food or kids clothes, sell them to people for about half as much as they're worth to get money for alcohol/drugs.

The kids are hungry in the meantime.

Source: family works with MOPR.
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>>61076199
Actually, our beloved pretty boy president actually has some ideas for that. Obviously hitting the banks most. Which obviously won't cause any shit for other clients who don't have CHF loans.
Assuming the banks agree to it, which they totally don't have to.
They are fucking retarded, all of them. Seriously we had one breed of retards ruling our country for 10 years, and now we have the other breed, just as stupid.
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>>61066662
because ensuring a future for white people by forgetting about "bullshit" constitutions worked out so well that one time
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>>61068309
Don't worry, we haven't forgotten Poland
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>>61062279

Damn those German Nazis are at it again, poor Poland, this is the third time Germany will make them suffer for being righteous and good.
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>>61076577
He's comparing apples with oranges. One is EU sanctioned way of handling the shitskins, other is something EU has to frown upon being all SJW cancer.
Until the mudslimes blow something up proper, they won't listen and instead will point fingers and go NUH UH NUH UH U BAD.
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>>61068240
>He was similarly critical of the Russian people, informing Gorky that "An intelligent Russian is almost always a Jew or someone with Jewish blood", in other instances admitting that he knew little of Russia, having spent one half of his adult life abroad"
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>>61070693
>more in numbers and in manhood
...but not smart enough to build a strong economy and advanced weaponry
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>>61062279
deeb concerns incoming fugg
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>>61066466
Yes multikulti good
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>>61064103
There's a point that very few are willing to acknowledge because of the UE histeria. I don't understand Poland one way or another and can understand the EU's meddling with our internal affair. We've all these strikes by workers but looking at the quality of their work.... Poland's population seems to be one in a deep coma.
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>>61076429

Yep.

I'm wishing for some true right wing party to spring in Poland that's not Koriwn. I vote for him but he's dead and buried because of his non-economical stance on... everything really.
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>>61064837
INTERMARIUM WHEN ;_;
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