Looks like I found out why the Republicans are so afraid of Bernie.

Where is the source on this poll Hernie keeps referencing?

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Bernie will never make it, so why don't you stop schilling already?

Bernie Sanders is going to be the next President. No doubt about it.

Americans are getting seriously tired of the rich .0001%.

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>>61060999
seriously this
trips demand it

my dubs confirm

OP is a fag

>>61061033

Great argument see you in november

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>>61061045
>le evil 1% meme
ABSOLUTE KEK

>bonglander obsessed with American politics
Bernie is only doing well because Hillary is so weak. Hillary was supposed to be the safe bet but she's been torpedoed and her bulkwarks are flooding. Bernie is winning by default.

>>61061045
Yes, people are sick of those asshole who pay for everything.

>>61060925
>mfw Berniefags are the kind of betafaggots who are afraid to even leave their homes and the girls who like Bernie don't actually care about politics so they won't vote either

>>61060999
Facebook, probably.
This guy is a fucking clown.

>>61061094

Google it

People in /pol/ are so retarded they have no idea how much support Sanders has, he has the biggest grassroots campaign in us history, and its become global and growing each day

You corporate cucks won't know what hit you in the general election

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>American Presidents can be elected with less than 50% of the vote
>Americans will defend this system

There are lots of percentages thrown around but I'd like to see the sample sizes and how they actually compare the data.

I really cant believe so many Americans want to vote for a socialist. Trump's crowds are fucking insane. How big do Bernie's get? He's had a lot of comparable ones but is he as consistent as Trump? Btw bros I converterted a Kansas Bernie shill today. All he had to do was actually look at Trumps policies

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>>61061413
Ive been googling it the last ten minutes you smarmy shitfuck

Cant even provide the goddamn source to the image. Gee, thought I'd ask a person, fuck me right!

>>61061033
When a Trump supporter does it, it's fine
When a Sanders supporter does it, its shilling

>>61061524
Trump isn't selling absolute bullshit
Sanders is.

See the difference?

>>61061413
>Google it
>>61061504
Don't worry friend, I think I found... something
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

>>61061453

Open google

Type " Bernie Sanders crowds"

How can /pol/ be so delusional? This fucking echo chambers seriosuly, the internet is driving this election not MSM and the internet is overwhelmingly pro sanders

>>61060925

>hernia

Looks and acts like a senile old man, published his rape fantasies in his 30s, literal same brand of cuck that's plagued Germany for the past decade.

>>61061170
The resources are controlled unfairly in the first place though. No one individual creates that much wealth.

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>>61061524
>>61061110
Fuck off Ausfag shitposters it's time your country gets blocked.

>>61061563

>Trump isn't selling absolute bullshit

I've never seen a more deluded fan base in my life. This is even worse than Ron Paul

>>61061665

On hay guy

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_trump_vs_sanders-5600.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_sanders-5668.html

>>61061665
>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

I want what's in OP image

>>61061704
You little emu fucker. Obviously I could do that. I could get a better answer from a /pol/tard than a conglomeration of biased "news" articles.

Threads are for discussion you little shit. I could use google but I'd get better insight talking to a human being, don't you think?

Well, at least not from your shitposting

You cant even answer questions
>hurrr google it hurr

Yeah the fact that you cant even talk about your favorite candidate is really going to convince me m8

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>>61060925
>fat woman : you gonna be a good cuckboi
>the other one: oh he gon be a gud cuckboi
>bernie: yes sir im a cuck
>This as your president
WEAK AS FUCK WHATS HE GONNA DO WHEN CHINA TRY TO RAPE HIM IN THE ASS? SPREAD HIS CHEEKS FOR THEM?

>>61061836
great post

Tell about the free shit anon
finish your blunt first

>>61061748
>Best and brightest create multiple jobs.

>>61062108

You make the mistake that im a Sanders supporter anon. I'm not. He's a meme candidate just like Trump. Trump's fanbase is on a whole different level of delusion surpassing Sanders and Ron Paul combined.

>>61062108

Free shit for rich = OK

Free shit for education and health care = bad

Still waiting for that trickle down from 2008, middle class will be growing any minute I'm sure

>>61061909
For Iowa, the PPP poll is okay, but the MSNBC one has 11% undecided voters my dog, making a 13 point difference, causing a huge shift in the average.
And the same for all three of the NH polls. We'll see how it comes down as time goes on and the two candidates actually have a chance to debate.
Flouting a poll with more than 10% of the voters being undecided as a way to show that you'll be the winner is a bit silly.

>>61062307
>still not declaring your side

just go away

>implying those people will vote

>>61062054

Not trying to convice you to change your vote anon just want to rub reality in your face, u mad? :)

hello reddit

thanks for stopping by

i know you are here from /r/sandersforpresident

you guys are doing a great job shilling the ever living shit out of him

we all know about bernie, we just happen to disagree with him, and you are perpetrating a hostile culture that is invading the safe space we have set up here

please leave us alone and stop coming here

>>61062308
>rich
>free shit
>Hurr hoe doe the 50 year old CEOs get thair wealth?

stop posting anytime

>>61062488
>still no sauce on OP image
>just an autistic looking graph bernie pulls out of his ass

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>>61060925

>>61061122
>defending le evil 1% meme
ABSOLUTE KEK

>>61060925
are you telling me
LITERALLY
FREE
AMERICAN
DOLLARS
?????????

>>61062491

Reddit has raised less than 1% of his campaign money this is /pol/ there is no safe space

>>61061413
>corporate cucks

Don't you fucking understand? It's the rich who can afford to leave. Then you sheltered middle class white bois (we rather your parents) will be the 1%, and they will take them for everything they have as the country collapses from all the rich business owners leaving

>>61062815
>t-there will always be a one percent

>>61062866
Seriously, it's you liberal middle class fucks who won't be able to leave and will end up being the ones who have everything taken from them

>>61062914
I Was being ironic fellow Trumpnigger

>t-there

>>61062815

K then will be looking forward to apple and Google moving to Bangladesh in 2017

Where are the rich going to move to? All developed countries have single payer health care and socialist democracies

Poor country with no taxes and no infrastructure or rich countrry with high taxes and infrastructure

Bernie looks like a wreck desu.

>>61063014

Ironically enough, apple has moved tons of their operations to Ireland to avoid the US tax rate as best they can.

If the American people are really that fucking dumb they will vote for Sanders cause MUH $15 MIN WAGE and MUH FREE COLLEGE

but hopefully theyll realize that hell drive away any business and would lose thousands of jobs

>>61063097

Gee I wonder if tax loopholes could be undone to stop this from happening

>>61063097
A ton of tech companies have headquartered there just for this purpose. The list is outrageous desu

>>61063225
Gee I wonder if Trump is trying to do the same thing to loopholes

>>61063123

Yes an educated population with higher disposable income is bad for economic growth

>>61063225
I'd Bernie wants to change that, he'd have to run for office in Ireland

Unless you think BIG, BAD, U.S. BULLY JUST CRUSH PUNY IRELAND HAHA

>>61062308
>2016
>still a commie

>>61063225

They need to lower the corporate tax rate. Billions of US dollars are being shipped abroad because the tax is so high, so in the end of course it ends up netting fewer tax monies altogether.

The current tax system in this country absolutely needs to be changed.

>>61063239

yeah it really is. Not just tech either, of course. There's a chance for real change if we end up with a good president since there's potential republican majorities in congress.

>>61063310
>Everyone has a degree, even niggers
>Degrees are now the new high school diploma
>College degree is now worth toilet paper
>adult life now must start an extra 5 years later
>Cant afford to educate everyone fucking anyway

Fucking
delusion

>>61063310
Assuming companies dont move their businesses elsewhere, companies here will have to cut costs by hiring fewer works to make up for the rise in wages. and since more and more people will have bachelor degrees, the degrees become more and more worthless. So now the jobs will become more competitive and students will have to strive for masters. Please tell me how this is really helping anyone

>>61063469

I can haz strawman too?

> no education for anyone
> grade school education is godlike
> send kids to work get 10 year headstart
> profit

>>61063310
but where is that disposable income going to come from?

>>61063669

Bernie's jew magic, obviously.

Prices on goods DEFINITELY won't rise as a result of companies having to pay a $15 minimum wage. Nope. Not at all.

But hey, everyone will be making $15/hr even though the price of goods rises along with the wages, making it a total washout effect.

>>61060925
This guy literally wants to destroy Appalachia. Why do people think he'll win.

>>61063550

Shits getting automated son, there will be less and less retail, hospitality and transport low paying jobs

More automation, higher profits, need for more education to get none automated jobs, higher money going to wealthy will require new tax system on finance and wall street trades and less loopholes to support middle class to bring wealth inequality down and keep economy strong

Reaganomics won't work with high technology, jobs are already displaced, socialism is necessary for the future anon

>>61063953
nothing but speculations and delusions

>>61064141

Yeah going to be lots of truck drivers in the 2020s

>>61060925
You should worry about your own elections you fucking teafag

Where did everyone go I thought we were talking about how unelectable that cringe candidate Bernie Sanders is

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Is this actually real and not just a meme? Who votes for this guy?

>>61061704
>>61061413
last poll taken december 20?

what a joke

>>61064461
see
>>61064508
pay gap isn't real

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???

>>61064508

Yeah that is bs, also his stance on nuclear energy is bad too I agree with you there

>>61063649
If we were trying to industrialize, and everything we needed used lots of human effort and labor, yeah, there would be 10 year olds working

but we aren't, so most 10 year olds enjoy a godlike life

>>61064571
I know, that's why i'm asking if Bernie is fucking serious or just memeing, holy shit, these libcucks

>>61064679
No, I was telling him to see your post to prove he is unelectable

>>61064633
But what about the hard line he's drawn on ATM fees? That must have you feeling the Bern big time, right?

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>>61061094
put use in this picture friend

>>61060925
I won;'t believe that Americans became such retards. Yes, they were always mentally challenged society, but heck. Whyt he fuck they would choose a communist by themself?

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>>61064508
Guess.

>>61065334
he is so creepy

>>61063014
REPUBLITARDS BTFO

>>61063097
Ironically enough Ireland has "socialist" healthcare and free University education for most courses, KEK, you just BTFO your own argument.

>>61061421
>Australian governments can be elected despite losing on the TPP percentage
>Australian preferential voting forces you to vote Labour or Liberal for your vote to be valid
>Australians will defend this system

>>61063760
People I know who work at McDonald's here get $21 an hour, while Canadians get more like $10. Guess what: it was MORE EXPENSIVE in Canada when I was there last year, same with general groceries too. This "higher wages will increase costs" thing is an utter meme put out by your corporate overlords, and your just being a good Goy and eating it up..

>>61066412
>you just BTFO your own argument.

No, the argument was about corporations and you just went full retard

>>61066572
Dimwit the Australian system is just the equivaent of the weakest candidate being eliminated and having a run-off election.

At each point you get to choose from the remaining candidates.

>>61065334
he's redder than a fucking tomato by the end, i'm surprised he didn't die

>>61066412

Don't bother, Americans have a long history of voting against their interests, you're all just a bunch of temporarily displaced millionaire masochists right 4chan?

>>61066675
Apple is moving to a country which has pretty much already enacted Bernie's main policy platforms. Thus, he BTFO of pretty much all the anti-Bern arguments in the thread, including the one he was trying to make

Bernie can't even defend himself from two BLM hysterical randoms. He literally just walked away and looked at his shoes

>>61061421
>be australian
>elect prime minister
>political party decides they disagree with the australian population and replaces him with their own handpicked prime minister

>>61064508
The college kids, poor people, sjws, faggots.

>>61066761
>Apple is moving to a country which has pretty much already enacted Bernie's main policy platforms.
You mean Ireland? The international tax haven that essentially every millionaire and billion-dollar company uses to avoid paying taxes?

>>61067158
Yes, I mean Ireland. Look it up, completely fucks any argument that free healthcare and education is "economically illiterate" LOL.

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>>61066675

>mfw when a bunch of Australians come out of the woodwork to help Americans adopt policies the rest of the world has had for decades that are in their best interests

If the government took away our health care there would be blood on the streets same for Canada

>>61064508
How come leftists can outright state lies like this and nobody calls them out on it, but if a GOP candidate even steps one toe out of line they get weeks of media backlash?

This has repeatedly been refuted. Nearly every major media network has ran at least one story to debunk it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/#2715e4857a0b774d9d404c52
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-wage-gap-myth-that-wont-die-1443654408


>>61067263
>completely fucks any argument that free healthcare and education is "economically illiterate" LOL.
how?
Ireland is a tax haven.
Do you know what a tax haven is?

>>61067158
http://www.studyineurope.eu/study-in-ireland/tuition-fees

>even refugees are exempt from paying Uni tuition in Ireland.

And of course all other 1st world nations apart from the US already have Universal Healthcare, so I don't even need to give you a link for that.

B T F O
T
F
O

>>61067274
lmao
>be Aussie
>be buttmad
>shitpost

>>61067352
>>even refugees are exempt from paying Uni tuition in Ireland.
you know a refugee isn't an immigrant, right?

>>61067274
There will be blood on the street once the socialised healthcare scam falls apart. We can already see the threads unraveling, just look at the paramedic protests and the bed shortages.

>>61067379
Refugees are a form of immigrant lel, an immigrant is a very broad term that merely means someone who moves to another country for residence. But that's an entirely irrelevant point? The fact is a country with only marginally higher total proportional tax revenues than the US has Universal Healthcare and free University, as well as 7% projected GDP growth this year. Where does this leave /pol/'s "hurr Bernie is economically incompetent" meme? BTFO, that's where. Pls respond with a relevant point next time.

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>>61061413

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>>61067439

Hey you're supposed to be on my side :(

>>61067600
>The fact is a country with only marginally higher total proportional tax revenues than the US has Universal Healthcare and free University,

>47.6% of Ireland's population were covered by private health insurance, and 31.9% of the population were covered by Medical Cards.
>half of Ireland has private insurance
>I-i-it's just like m̶a̶r̶x̶'̶s̶ bernie's socialist paradise!

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>>61067439
No one in Australia calls it "socialised healthcare", proxyfag detected. Anyway, such systems have been in place for 40 years in Australia, 80 years in the UK and NZ and well over 100 in Germany. They're not going anywhere, m8. Obvs it's working, just check Aus vs US life expectancy; maybs if you had universal healthcare you wouldn't have tens of thousands dying unnecessarily every year because going to the doctor bankrupts them?

>>61067863
>. They're not going anywhere, m8. Obvs it's working,
except doctors in the UK right now are on mass strike and the BBC is trying their hardest not to shit their pants in terror because the NHS is collapsing?

>>61061110
Lol you only have to wait after the primaries for him to get frozen out. Don't you remember how mr. Happening got frozen out the past two elections?

>>61067863
I've lived here all my life mate. Also kek at your over 100 years in Germany, Germany has had 4 completely different government systems over it's short lifespan of just ~150 years.

>>61064253
It's the most common job in america, has been for some time.

>>61067659
Vaguely relevant point this time, well done! But still, Ireland guarantees healthcare no matter your financial means, paid for by "muh taxes" m8. Thus, it is "socialist" and free by your own definition. Australia has the same system, wherein you have the option to buy private insurance, yet you still see Amerilards calling us Communists kek.

>American education
>American understanding of societies other than their own

>>61068073
Yet despite all that they never gave up "socialised" healthcare. KEK.

>>61067950

You mean that guy who never broke into double digits in the GOP primary polls... k

>>61068211
As far as I knew the Wiemar Republic and German Empire didn't have socialised healthcare. Also socialised=/=socialist just to make that clear.

>>61068140
>But still, Ireland guarantees healthcare no matter your financial means
so does USA
you can't be turned away from a hospital in USA, and you don't have to pay.

>>61067659
Also, America spends minimum twice as much per capita as any other developed country on healthcare and it's STILL NOT FREE, what the fuck m9, you've been swindled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita

>>61061421
We had our PM elected with 17% support.

>>61067950

That guy who didn't manage to break double digits in the GOP primary polls? K

>>61060925
We aren't afraid of Bernie at all, dude. I want him to win the nomination, I think Bernie vs Trump would be the funniest fucking run in history, why wouldn't I want to see that?

Don't pretend for a second that we have ANYTHING to do with Sanders not getting the nomination. That's the DNC. We had nothing to do with it and it breaks my heat that it's happening. I wish Bernie the best of luck, for the most fucking epic election in history.

>>61068332

What happened there?

>>61068320
That's why medical bill are the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US, right? Pls don't lie, you're trying to conflate two entirely different systems, just accept you've been BTFO. It's well documented that thousands of deaths in the US every year are attributable to the absolutely extortionate cost of healthcare; thousands of people simply don't go when they have symptoms, and die as a result.

>>61068435
Sanders won't win the nomination because the only vote he has is the rich, young, white liberal vote.
Which is a tiny as fuck minority of the democrat party now. DNC will be >50% non-white in 2016.

Notice the only states he even gets close to Hillary's numbers in are almost entirely white and upper-middle class.

>>61068324
You get what you pay your doctors for. #1 cancer survival rate. Also we're richer in general so it doesn't matter.
Also, it is free if you make under X, you've never heard of Medicaid?

>>61061704

Have you seen the size of the crowds at Trump rallies?

These are every fucking day nearly.

>>61068312
M9, please actually research before you put out astoundingly ignorant statements. Socialised healthcare in Germany was STARTED by Bismark, aka the founder of the German Empire. It never went away during Weimar times either. Pls attend a history class, it's no fun debating spastics.

>>61068522
To be included in the "survival rate" you actually have to have enough money to be treated first LOL. Which doesn't happen for thousands, hence your artificially inflated survival rate. Your actual overall life expectancy tells the real tale: 83 (Aus) vs 79 (US). FUCKING CUBA AND LEBANON ARE RANKED HIGHER THAN YOU, AND THEY'RE 3RD WORLD. Also, something like 25% of your population makes under $12 an hour kekkity kek kek kek, classic Ameripoors.

>>61068737
I said as "as far I knew [beforehand]" fucktard implying that I admit that they had socialised healthcare and that I didn't know beforehand. Sorry I don't know the ins and outs of every government for the past 200 years.

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So this is commie logic, correct me if I'm wrong.

>You're making too much money due to your high negotiating skills and wise investments. Gibemedat since I don't have as much money as you due to my less beneficial skill set which would naturally assure me a lower paycheck. It's not like you earned your money or anything, it should be everyone's! If I were president, I'd give every single US citizen $25,708 after borrowing 8 trillion to solve poverty once and for all!

>>61060925
now just subtract bernie supporters that are not allowed to vote

>>61068975
DON'T COMMENT IF YOU DON'T KNOW M8, NO WONDER I THOUGHT YOU WERE AMERICAN!

>>61069099
why don't we just elect a president that cuts all taxes by 20% so everyone is 20% richer?

>>61069121
>Don't comment if you don't know about every government's policies for the past 200 years
Literally what mate?

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>>61069121

>>61060925
>Carson has 41
update your chart nigger

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>>61061728
>published his rape fantasies
I'm intrigued, please do elaborate

>>61069509
he's not lying, bernie actually wrote rape fantasies during his draft dodge years while jim webb was busy earning his medals in 'nam

>>61069231
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_.282012.29

>Australia: 63
>US: 50

Sorry if I triggered you, I recommend moving as quickly as possible to your local designated "safe space". We Australians' are compassionate people.

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>>61068972
You actually don't know anything about the American healthcare system, Roo. Any citizen can go to a hospital and be treated, even if he can't pay, and it's illegal for the hospitals to turn them down. 99% of cancer patients are treated, and we still have #1 survival rate despite them delaying treatment, because our doctors are superior and our hospitals are superior.

>Also, something like 25% of your population makes under $12 an hour
So what? Our PPP per-capita is 10,000 dollars higher than yours because we don't live on a remote island with the worst shipping costs on Earth. It doesn't matter what you make, it matters what you can buy, and we can buy more with less. Suck it.

>implying online polls aren't extremely biased towards youth
There will be a shit ton of computer illiterate old white people voting, and they sure as hell won't vote Bernie. Nice bait though.

>>61061504
Now that's an edgey meme for fashy goys!

>>61069788
>ausfags
>not constantly trying to kill themselves
Nice meme

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>>61060925
>bernie beats trump

>>61060925
Much like Bernie, here you can see the Berniefag attacking the Republicans while Hillary is looming over the horizon, ready to crush him.

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>>61069847
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/best-healthcare-systems-in-the-world-2012-6#36-costa-rica-1

COSTA RICA HAS A BETTER HEALTHCARE SYSTEM THAN YOU! BTFO.

42% PERCENT OF YOUR POPULATION MAKES LESS THAN $15 AN HOUR!!!

http://fortune.com/2015/04/13/who-makes-15-per-hour/

AMERILARDS HAVE A LOWER LIFE EXPECTANCY THAN CUBA AND LEBANON.

WHEN WILL THE SUFFERING END?

AMERILARDS ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!

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>>61070146
>he thinks trump can with only whit voters

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Good morning /pol/

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>>61069651
Oh, I believe it. Got any links?

>>61064508
Sleazy use of statistics.
>all races of women regardless of field
>vs.
>the majority race of men regardless of field

>>61070275

Evening :]

>>61070397
http://nypost.com/2015/06/05/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-reveals-left-wing-hypocrisy/

>“A woman enjoys intercourse with her man — as she fantasizes being raped by three men simultaneously.’’

>>61066572
>Labour

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>actually voting for a jew that says he'll give you something for free

>>61060925
>old folks are going to vote for a worthless commie who, in recent memory, went to the fucking USSR for his honeymoon

The old vote is by far the most important voting bloc and they're solidly Trump.

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>>61070545
What

>>61070545
Holy shit, that really made me feel the Bern deep inside my soul. If he wasn't a liberal idol, there would be false rape allegations springing up everywhere.

>>61060925
What is this the PPP poll. Of course a communist polling company would produce this.

>>61071015
>If he wasn't a liberal idol, there would be false rape allegations springing up everywhere.
see
>>61067342
>How come leftists can outright state lies like this and nobody calls them out on it, but if a GOP candidate even steps one toe out of line they get weeks of media backlash?


see Bill Clinton's sexual assault/rape allegations(over 15 total), etc.
There's a massive double standard there. The left can't do any wrong, apparently.

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>>61060925
Republicans are afraid of Sanders for the same reason Democrats are afraid of Trump: media lies and distortion. Both men have fairly rational, if very ideologically different visions for America. Neither seems to be bought out by corporate interests.

Can you guys focus on making it so Hillary is not elected? I’m trying for an H1B Visa, and though Trump and Sanders both want to make it harder for me, at least I know if I get there it won’t be like in those movies where you think you’ve gotten away but the killer’s in the back seat.

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>>61060925

>>61063649
The fuck do you know?
Stay in your hemisphere cunt

>>61060925
>Random internet polls spammed by slacktivists.
Most voters don't care for that and DUDE FREE COLLEGE LMAO doesn't appeal to the majority of college educated middle class democrats who have grown tired of DUDE FREE SHIT LMAO when they're getting fucked by the economy and debt.

Nobody is afraid of Bernie. His voter base is reliably unreliable and will not turn out for him on election day. He's too weak on stage, preferring to make snarky, smug comments on twitter but he backs down when challenged. He has no gaul and no strength. Bernie projects weakness and appeasement. He's too easy to attack because of his socialist views and he'll be embarrassed in debate. A vote for Bernie is a vote for Republican victory.

>>61060999
Dems have two serious contestants.
Repubs have more than two.

They are comparing percentages from two different collections. Trump has majority of registered repubs, not American vote. Bernie has "majority" of Dem vote.

They are comparing the amount of red apples with respect to the total amount of apples against the average number of bananas per harvested bunch. The units have been converted from redApples/totalApples, and avg bananas per bunch to percents.

These percent comparisons are presented to make it look as if Bernie has almost half of the American vote on his side when compared against Trump. It is dishonest presentation and comparison of two unrelated statistics.

>>61061177
/thread.

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>>61061704
Damn

Pretty impressive desu

>>61075615
Dems technically on have one serious candidate. Bernies nothing more than a charade to pretend like they are a bottom-up organization whereas anyone with any political experience realizes the charade immediately.

I also love how the party of diversity has by far the whitest possible candidate one could find.

>>61062403
>
PPP is known for manipulating polls to make them look like ties

>>61060925
>believing polls, ever


keep deluding yourself

>>61077269
Irrelevant but correct. The seriousness of the candidates is in question considering hillarys potential charges going to court.
Bernie, I believe, is like a Macy's day parade balloon. He's just getting pumped up way beyond what he really is and it will slowly deflate and sink.

Lots of hot air, little substance OR irresponsible criminal. Compared with actual success candidate, religious candidate, or CONSTITUTION candidate.

It could be worse

source of op's poll result:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307

an old dec poll

>>61060925
Source?

Not that it matters since this is obviously a DNC poll and the numbers do not correlate to total registered voters.


This is at best b8 and more likely just shitposting.
Get back to reddit faggot.

>>61078039
Thought so, OP should kill himself now since he won't have bernie in office to enable his NEET lifestyle.

>>61078252
> not looking at op's flag
> bernie having anything to do with his neet style
current year man

>>61061170
Those assholes who rob the public coffers and when asked to contribute back say, "fuck you, I got mine" and move the money out of the country.

Do you understand how much subsidizing of large business occurs at the taxpayer expense and how little of that they reimburse? How much public money is poured into R&D, given to the private sector and when asked to pay a share of the profit they earned off the welfare they received, decide that they somehow earned that profit all on their own.

>>61069231
AUSFAGS LITERALLY ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>61061563
>donaldjtrump.com
>populist rhetoric with no explanation as to how any of these plans are achievable or why we should believe that they are even possible
>not selling absolute bullshit

Trump is telling you want you want to hear, so you don't care to look at the fine print. Explain to me how the POTUS will accomplish this tax code and by what means the executive branch is able to rewrite the tax brackets in the way suggested in his plan.

Shouting "I'm gonna make things great again" over and over isn't a plan, it's just empty rhetoric. It's no better than Obama saying Change™ and Yes We Can! You are a delusional fool if you expect otherwise.

Sanders needs to flesh out his plan too, but that's another topic

>>61079966

The things that Trump is promising is actually plausible.

The "free everything!!" that senile old bernie is shouting is not.

>>61079567
Do you understand how many people are in "le ebil 1%" who are family GP's or plain-Jane business owners?

>>61080235
>The things that Trump is promising is actually plausible.

Again, how? People here keep asserting this as though repeating it makes it true.

>The "free everything!!" that senile old bernie is shouting is not.

It is plausible and there is a very detailed plan on the costs of doing so and how it would be funded.
The short version of it is:
Public Universities are made free (so it's not all college), reform the US Department of Labors loan practices, slash existing loan interest rates by ~2%. This would be funded with a 0.5% tax on several finical instruments, which would still leave us competitive with London and HK who already tax these parts of the speculation market.

Whether he can actually get enough cooperation to pass these measures is a different question, but the plan itself is plausible.

>>61080921

>>>reddit

Slash what existing loan interest rates by 2%?

Loan interest rates are VERY low right now.

If you're talking about student loans, why in the fuck would banks even give them any more if they don't make any money off of it? A student loan is essentially an unsecured loan with very high risk. Why would a bank take that risk for a very low rate?

>>61080273
I actually agree more with Trump's position on reforming corporate tax law in order to deal with the issue, rather than adjusting income tax or rasising corporate tax across the board. Also the person I was quoting, was quoting someone speaking of the 1% of the 1%, the billionaire class. Which in context of my statement is what I was addressing. Do some research on how much money an average MNC takes in corporate welfare versus how much they give back in tax.

Trump is right and Bernie is wrong. Trump has style, Bernie does not. With both style and rightness, Trump can't lose. If he gets the GOP nomination, he'll be president.

>>61081138
sorry, I thought it would be clear from the preceding part of the sentence. I was talking of student loans and to answer the following question, you do it because you don't lend money to students for-profit. We need an educated population and it should not be ran as a for-profit venture, this applies to both private universities which have hiked tuition to pay absurd administrative costs and the institutions we set up to make capital available to students to receive education.

Not everything in life should be done for-profit, given /pol/s nationalist streak, this should be obvious. Outcomes of running public sectors for-profit results in practices such as civil-forfeiture as means to balance city budgets, creating perverse incentives that erode the purposes of the institutions built for the greater good.

>>61081575

I agree with that, but I think the better way is to regulate how much college costs and keep the traditional way of paying for it.

What you need to understand is to attract people to do things well, there has to be an incentive for them. The reason why socialist societies (and in our own society an example would be government workers) fails, is because why try harder, or to use your abilities that are more advanced than others if there's no benefit.

The best system is a capitalist one with controls. let people's drive and natural greed propel us forward, but have controls in place that does not let too much of the money go up.

>>61081384
This attitude is reminiscent of the Romney campaign, who so convinced by the echo chamber, resulted in an embarrassment of him only having written a victory speech.

>>61079966

You don't need an explanation on hoe you are going to enforce laws already on the books. These are cheap things to do.

You could spend $10,000 processing every deportion and get rid of them all for 3% of one year's federal budget.

Sanders is the one with the unfunded promises. Sanders is the one who needs congressional support. Trump doesn't need congressional support to shift law enforcement resources or enter talks with other nations.

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Except Hillary already has 20% of the delegates from superdelegates alone.

Bernie would have to sweep Iowa and New Hampshire, build up steam, and destroy Hillary in the primaries. That's not going to happen, since he needs minorities, and they don't even know who he is, or they think he's a wimpy nerd.

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>>61061122

>semen demon
>also dub dubs

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>>61060925
If these are the 4chan polls from yesterday bernie got rekt after /pol/ found out about them

A crazy old jew cuck in the White House?

I believe America could actually do this.

If not, you get the incontinent old hag lesbo murderer with the rapist hubby ex-president.

Holy shit America! Isn't democracy grand?

>>61061122

ficki ficki

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Which state will be the only one that matters this year? Florida, Ohio, or a different one?

>>61081767
There exist non-monetary incentives to act. Have people forgotten this? Greed is a useful tool and has its place, but it is not an end-all be-all solution. We are capable of funding education and if we choose to run it on greed, we will suffer.

Why actually educate people in a higher education if you concern yourself with money? Admit everyone, lower the standards, make sure no-one fails out (because then they can't pay!). Find the cheapest professors, only hire adjuncts and stop giving tenure. You only need to be good enough to not have a shitty reputation. This is what you're asking for if you want higher education run on greed, because that is the most profitable way to run them. By the time they realize they've gotten a shitty product, it's a decade later, so you can keep pumping the short term profits.

On the loan end, why bother checking their credit or offering competitive rates? You know they have to borrow anyway and they're coming to you. You can write them a predatory loan and it's going to earn you money. Did we learn nothing from watching loan institutions greed in the housing market?

Regulating costs means cuts and it isn't going to be the administration which get cut. It's going to be the professors and counselors and advisors. It's going to be the activities, career centers, communal, and the quality.

>>61081955
No, I asked about the tax code. Read the post if you're going to respond. His plan for balancing the budget by changing the tax law is not something I agree is possible and everyone here dodges the question.

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>>61061170
>pay for everything.

>>61063310

I'll take "Unintended Consequences" for $500, Alex.

You fucking libtards think everything will work out exactly as the plan you scribbled on that napkin, but it NEVER does.

>>61082330
In Trump v Sanders I assume the growing Cuban population in Florida and the shrinking old Jew population means that Trump takes Florida. Ohio will be closer.