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Hey, USA. Why don't you give a fuck about your native Americans?

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Hey, USA. Why don't you give a fuck about your native Americans? Serious question here.
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Because they killed off most of them, river-niggers get wrecked
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>>61055406

Why should we?

We shouldn't give a fuck about our negroes either, but for some reason we do.
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what the fuck are we supposed to do? They're pretty much all gone, or living on reservations
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>>61055406
>The US doesn't care about Indians
They get to live on their own reservations and self-govern.
They are immune to all US laws and most international ones.
They're doing just fine.
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>>61055406
lol I've never seen a native american in my life, they are like mythological nature hippies to me
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>>61055406
it is like in the same way Chile doesn't give a fuck about the Mapuches
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Because they're still butthurt about their ancestors trading their land away for a couple of raccoon skins.
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>>61055406
What country gives a fuck about its indigenous people?
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>>61055406
>tfw I once visited one of their reservations
>turned out most of them were alcoholics living of welfare
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Damn cavemen.
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They don't pay taxes but they get all the benefits of being a taxpayer, and more since they are also self governing. Being poor is their own fucking choice.
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>>61055406
Why don't Australians care about their natives?
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>>61055553
>self-govern and immune to all US laws
nah, from what i've seen it seems like a bureaucratic mess. the ones who want to not live in poverty or be alcoholic messes get off the reservation, hopefully
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>>61055406
But they get to operate casinos
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>>61055406
Unlike you, Chile, we didn't fuck them into our population.

The answer is that the Natives have given up.
They don't care.
They're just waiting until their extinction.

Can't help that.
If they wanted to integrate and be like us, then we could do something.
But they don't care. They just want to numb the pain until they're all dead.
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>>61055406
I live around tons of them in Minnesota, don't really have an issue with them at all.

Some white people hate them with a passion and I never understood it.

They're mostly just dumb, docile alcoholics.

I don't really have an opinion on them other that.

They have casinos and do just fine, believe me.
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>>61055406
they get college grants out the ass

most US military equipment are named after tribes or other indian weapons and shit

theres just not enough of them to be a more visible part of the pop culture
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We won it fair and square

With smallpoxes help
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>>61055787
They don't care about themselves so nobody else will
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Here's my thing with the native americans.

For one, it's not like they were some established prominent state, they were disbanded tribe of savages, whom clashed amongst themselves, and had no intentions of befriending any white men from the get go.

Secondly, they hadn't contributed shit to the land, and we had contributed more in 10 years of colonization than they did their whole tenure of North America!

And lastly, all the dicks have been killing Native American savages since the land has existed. Spain, France, England, and America.

Is that good enough for you, Chile?

>pic related
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>>61055604
Mapuches are still a thing, tho. There are still some battles going on. I completely support them, I love it.

What are everyones thoughts on "it's their land, they were there first" argument?
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>>61055406

American Indian here. What exactly would you like the USA to do for us? What possible fucking thing could the government do to help us reverse 400 years of steady decline? Serious question.
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What are we supposed to do? Their civilization, culture and genetic purity is destroyed. That can't be undone.

True Native Americans are an endangered species. Half the chiefs of the major tribes are only a 1/2 or 1/4 native. The rest are addicted to drugs and alcohol or are in a permanent malaise.

Nothing can be done. If we wanted to help Native Americans, something had to be done 100+ years ago. It's too late. They will never recover.
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>>61055406

They're a savage race that was taken over by conquerors. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just not fashionable anymore. Somehow dismantling our own culture and handing it over to immigrants is though. Strange times we live in.
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I live near a tin of injuns. I was blown away that two girls reacted negatively when I talked about hunting a deer. I had to explain why hunting was good to Indians lol

Ebt zombies. Their ancestors would kill most of em. Ghetto culture pervasive.

Met a red pilled one married to a white guy. Actually 2, both white husband . Rare.

I think the original problem is in play.

They were so eager to fuck over their traditional native enemies when the whites came, they failed to see the need to pull together to resist the white man.

They have been farmed into passive drunks and basically tamed.

Ie comfy
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>>61055600
They're all gone. There are nearly no full blooded natives left. Take it from me, my grandmother is one of the last in America
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>>61055406
because they are less than 2% of the US population
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>>61056067

They're a weaker race. They were conquered. If they were smarter and stronger they'd still be around today, but they're not. Like you wrote, nothing can be done. It's Darwinism at it's finest. Even still today, they destroy themselves with substance abuse. Their kind just wasn't meant to survive modern society.
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>>61055406
>Why don't you give a fuck about your native Americans?

What are reservations?

Not even any walls to keep you in, unlike Gaza
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>>61055899
And there you go. They don't give a shit anymore. They're content to just lounge around in their casino-vations, drawing welfare checks and drinking themselves to death.

>>61055933
This is something I always like to point out to people who cry about colonialism. The Native Americans and the Africans and the Chinese and Indians and everyone else who got "invaded" had just as much time to build their civilization as the Europeans did. You look at the abundant riches of North America and Africa and you want to tell me they couldn't have?

They were just content to sit around and do their own thing. And then the Spaniards came over and decided that it was their clay now.
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>>61055646

Indian here. This statement is true.

It's not a matter of "giving a fuck about your native Americans." The government gave us reservations. To begin with, many were hell holes. But the people who lived there had purpose and made due.

Then the indian casino industry was born. Reservations being basically sovereign land within the US had the right to give the okay to gambling and did so.

This meant that in addition to an already very healthy welfare system. (1 or 2k a month plus food and housing assistance.) They now had casinos sending checks 2-3 times a year, in some cases of 5k-8k.

Now most natives have more than enough income but not a damn thing to do with it. No point in working because food and shelter is provided. Lots of native children leave, never to return. We're slowly aging out.

We just get drunk everyday while we wait.

Much like the blacks, there is nothing uncle Sam can do to make us change our culture and it will be the end of us.
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>>61056011
We kicked their ass, it's our land now you faggot.
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>>61056145
Pretty false bro.

I know lots of full blooded natives.

They're just in little pockets of the country.
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>>61055600
I'm half native and my mom is full. Natives only seem like these magical nature wizards because of media. Most natives are lazy drunk assholes. I know another half native kid and he recently went to prison for beating the living shit out of his girlfriend for some dumbshit reason.
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>>61056011
see
>>61055933


Sure it was. And then Britain claimed it was THEIR land.

And the us Americans said, fuck the both of you, this is OUR land now, and you can suck my freedom flavored cock.

And it worked out pretty well for the rest of the world?

Where would the world be today if wouldve gotten overrun by savages or let them keep it?

Would we be on 4chan (american) on american computers that have american software all connected with the american invention of internet?

Who knows.
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>>61055406
Cause they were just stone age Siberians. I love how history was rewritten to paint them as a homogenous group of peaceful hippies. People act like the "natives" lived like shit because they chose to, not because they were stupid
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>>61055933
Are you dumb? The English would have died their asses off without the Indians help. You know there were different tribes right? Many tribes were extremely friendly and even bred with whites
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Anyone born in America is a native American. So fuck off you drunk injun!
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Americans/Canadians give a fuck ton of fucks. The fuckers just have no fucking clue what the fuck they're doing.
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>>61055600
>lol I've never seen a native american in my life, they are like mythological nature hippies to me

you my friend have never had the pleasure of going to oklahoma
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>>61056232

Liberals hate conquerors. I think it's the might makes right part they don't like. We're in a strange part of history where imperalism isn't culturally accepted by the most powerful nations.
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>>61055461
Please, they prefer the term bead-nigger. Try to be a little more culturally sensitive, neighbor.
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>>61056484
Teepee niggers
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>>61056362
No sir, i know this 100% I grew up and went to american elementary just like you did friend.

>implying you dont know as well as i do the only reason the indians helped the brits cuz the brits promised them their land back after they destroyed all the americans and muh reparations
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>>61056204
>>61056032
>>61055886
>>61055553
>>61055537
I had the wrong concept that some of them kept asking for lands, and that the reserves were pretty much shit tier.

All I've heard from people I've met from the US are rants about them being drunk and ungrateful
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>>61056190
Niggers are the worst of the worst and they're still going strong. Your logic is illogical
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>>61056011
Might makes right
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>>61056484
>>61056516

Tree nigger
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>>61055406
These people?
They should literally go extinct.
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>>61056572

The only reason niggers continue to thrive is because, for some reason, the world keeps giving them handouts.
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>cannibals
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>>61056660
Man, that movie was ass.
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>>61056484
>>61056516
>>61056642
>>61055461
As a proud teepee river bead tree nigger I appreciate you guys making me feel welcome in this thread.
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>>61055406
Not accounting for the actual business done at the time our impunity is that they lost. They were weak and they died. It's how the world works. To justify it you need only that.
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I love The Indian spirit. Can't see much of it today. I'm still rooting for the underdog to awaken even if I'm their mortal enemy. I see something in common with them.
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>>61055933
>For one, it's not like they were some established prominent state, they were disbanded tribe of savages, whom clashed amongst themselves, and had no intentions of befriending any white men from the get go.
Maybe you should look up the Cherokee Nation

>and had no intentions of befriending any white men from the get go.
Yet the Pilgrams befriended the Wampanoag from the get go

>Secondly, they hadn't contributed shit to the land, and we had contributed more in 10 years of colonization than they did their whole tenure of North America!
Like what, deforestation and killing the soil with over production of tobacco to send back to Europe, introducing wild pigs, disease. I guess you forget that natives selectively breed corn and potatos into being and harvested rice, tomatoes, cacao, and vanilla.

Not to mention broken treaties by the US.

You have some points, but your sweeping generalizations are incorrect.
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>>61056660
poo in loo

indians go extinct if not poo in loo
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>>61056032

It might be a good start to teach you how now to be savages instead of isolating you while your own genetic tendencies end up killing the rest of you off
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My niece went to school on a reservation for a little while, she said that the natives call white students niggers.
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>>61056736
I liked it though. I am really looking for The vvitch. I don't knw it was shown in sunddance film festival in feb 2015 but releasing in U.S in feb 2016. But some coutries have it released like brazil. you got any link?
Here is the trailer

http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/the-witch-trailer-2/
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>>61056298
>>61056145
Pretty sure a lot of full bloods are still in Pine Ridge, which no one should ever bother to see unless you feel like being mugged by a drunk lakota or some shit
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>>61056785
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Nation_(1794%E2%80%931907)
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>>61056779
Forget about it. Natives have been neutered and it's a completely neutral outcome. Likewise if every arab, african, or slav just dropped dead right now the world wouldn't suffer a bit. Their presence on Earth is one of two things. Either their just along for the ride and useless or they're actively damaging the growth of Earthling society. Only white and asian people have ever bettered this world on the whole and if they were the only cultures to leave the Sol system the universe would be better off.
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>>61056250

I'm seeing some highly socialist parallels here.
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>>61055406
i wished we cared less about them. theyre fucking annoying and a waste of space. too bad we didnt like the us and cleared the place
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>>61056542

The sad truth is that all three of those things are true at the same time. The reservations are shit and most indians are mostly drunk and ungrateful. The smart ones leave the reservations, the ones with money start the casinos. There isn't much hope for indians, by our own admission we are our own worst enemy, probably because (much like the niggers) we find it hard to survive in a society and a culture that we didn't help to create. There is no place for the indian in society, therefore the indian is found nowhere in society.
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>>61056660
Your country is still in the "native indian" era, you shouldn't talk like that
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>>61056525
Wrong. Certain tribes were very friendly with whites before the country was even a country. I think you're assuming the war of 1812 was a reflection on white/native relations for the "countries" entire existence.
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>>61056785
>Cherokee Nation

I actually live in alabama and know a bit about the Cherokees.

What great and lasting contributions have they made for America sir?

>Wampanoags befriended by pilgrims
"befriended" ? You mean they gave food to them in return for maize?

>Implying you can justify of 10,000 years and your greatest achievements be bow&arrows and teepees

Even if british colonies were shit initially, America itself is only 250 years old, and look in this short time what we've done. Become the worlds largest superpower, and essentially the world's peacekeepers/police. And made english the international lingua franca
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>>61056362
You realize the Powhatan started the indian wars with the Virginia colony right? It was like Pearl Harbor, they massacred 10% of the colony's population without warning. Indians were fucking niggers and they shot first.
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>>61057014
Yep. Pretty much. My mom left the rez first shot she got and I couldn't be happier. I have no idea how much worse my life would be if I lived on one, but I can guarantee it wouldn't be as good as it has living in a majority white city.
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>>61056982
Sad truth is that I know a tribe that gets a ridiculous amount of per cap every month. Plus usually a set amount of money after turning 18 I think. One of my friends bought a camaro our senior year of high school.
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>>61056779
You're an idiot.
>>61056032
To get rid of the rest of you for one. As long as you all remain people will start various conflicts back up about win the vain of what was done. I have nothing personal against you but in the name of peace people would benefit more if you didn't exist. The same could be said about all the races and it would be as equally true. If there were only one people such conflicts would be considerably less of a problem.
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>>61055406
Yeah native americans got really fucked over. They didnt even get any land deals really. But still, we're talking kill or be killed pioneering days where you were cold and pissed off most of the time and lived till your 45
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>>61057014
Anglos and Colonials before, during and after the Revolutionary War were habitually insanely drunk. Read Jacob Sullum's Saying Yes, the chapter on alcohol. They were also driven to try to improve themselves and to learn new technologies. Indians generally see disruptive change as uncomplicated moral evil.
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Wampa-nig-nogs wanted to kill white devil but wanted them on their side to fight off vicious Mohawks or whoever/whatever.
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>>61056572

Niggers are only around today (In America) for the same reason we didn't ship them all back to their tribes - because being a bleeding heart liberal is politically advantageous.

Also no one wants to colonize Africa and wipe those niggers out cause of the pretty animals. No one gives a fuck about the humans who live there. Africans, as far as not being totally killed off as a race, are lucky. Despite their best genocidal efforts within their own race, they're still around today.

>Your logic is illogical

Go be a massive faggot elsewhere
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>>61056572
>stop giving niggers free shit
>1 billion of them starve
>Africa now has 1/7 of the population of Europe
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>>61056542
Because they're drunk and ungrateful while living on land provided for them because their great, great ancestors lost a war.

Ever been to a reservation? They're lazy as fuck because they can just coast through life working like four hours a week.

Source: "Native" American family members/have friends that live on the rez/have been to the rez quite a few times.
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>>61057093
>What great and lasting contributions have they made for America sir?
Same could be asked of Alabama
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>>61055406

But we do.

Prairie niggers have more freedom than the average American, and they get all the help from the government than they want. For instance in Oklahoma you need to carry a tribal card to get a decent middle class job.

There are millions more prairie niggers than there were before we came, and although a few have adapted to civilization most are still savages. Not as bad as abbos, but still pretty shit.
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>>61057169

Yeah but they're just a bunch of savage alcoholics that smell terrible. The one native american I used to fuck had the most god awful odor that would linger on me.
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>>61056907
Nah, natives call niggers niggers. Most natives actually kinda idolize whites in private. At least the ones in New England.
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>>61057067
The fact that certain tribes were friendly doesn't change the fact that they were all uncivilized savages in comparison to brits or americans any time from 1600's to 1800's

And that they did not align with american expansionism, even though we let them know if they didn't leave, they would die.

they chose to fight with some honor, i suppose.
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>>61055406

They don't even exist anymore. If you see one its at a casino, otherwise they are drinking themselves to death on a reservation white people don't go to.
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>>61057217
Vagina
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>>61055406
>Why don't you give a fuck about your native Americans?
What are you talking about? I would like to fuck some native pussy.
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>>61057285
Fun fact: the Kariba dam, largest in the world, will probably collapse in the next two years- killing about 4 million niggers. This is because they neglected maintenance on it for the 36 years they've controlled Rhodesia and despite having enough money to start repairs now, haven't- probably because they embezzled all of it.
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>>61056542
I live in Appalachia and the reservation is 30 minutes from my house. I went to school with Indians.

They are drunks, usually. It's sad; a lot of people here have developed excessive racial pride because their culture is so shit.

Many still keep the traditions alive, with shamanic traditions. Very few non-Indians are able to join those ranks if any. Some teachers go to the reservation high school and teach Cherokee language in order to keep it alive. They have their own newspaper, the street signs are written in Cherokee as well as English.

They're tourist-oriented. All you see in the main town is shop after shop of "homemade Cherokee items" for a couple bucks a piece.

They've recently implemented a new policy, 30 extra minutes of break at work for exercise. Many of them are big. Even worse is most of them don't give a shit any more.

A handful of Indians will shoot white men if they're on the wrong side of the fence. There's a certain area in the backwoods of the reservations called Big Cove where NO one goes. Bad shit tends to happen. First time driving up there with buddies we saw a woman on the side of the road waving a shirt in the air. Weird shit.

As far as the normal ones' character...they're very close to one another. They're also extremely friendly. Thinking about it they really are some of the most laid back, level-headed people I've ever met. Very protective as well.

Ask me more if you want
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>>61057217

>If there were only one people

Keep dreaming, pal.

>As long as you all remain people will start

I can tell that you're clearly the superior race here. I have a masters degree, you can't even spell or articulate your retarded opinions. But yeah, society would be much better if you ran it. Definitely.
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>>61057344
>Huntsville space and rocket center
>Integral NASA space program started in Huntsville alabama during inception circa 1950's
>yfw without alabama we would not have landed on the moon or made it into space.
>and btw this was all done by a nazi scientist we stole from germany after world war 2
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>>61057370
>the ones in new england

Fuck off Massachusetts, you don't have any real indians. Just a bunch of rednecks playing pretend.
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>>61057344
Indians have probably done more for the US than Alabama.
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>>61057093
>"befriended" ? You mean they gave food to them in return for maize?

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-pilgrim-wampanoag-peace-treaty

I believe they also agreed to fight for one another should either of them be attacked by neighboring tribes.
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>>61056660
POO
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>>61056991
LMAO without them our ancestors would've had a fucking hard time conquering and making a living here. It was hell for europeans, don't underestimate the help they got from the natives. Even though there was fighting times too.
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>>61057362
>not all natives :^)
Sounds horrible you regularly fucked an unhygienic one
>>61057370
True, there are no modern native heroes to look up to. Cept maybe the few native actors.
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>>61057508
>Cherokee
>actual indians

They're all retarded white people. I guarantee they are as white as Professor Delorea, the "Sioux Indian" who wrote books about white people magically disappearing and "red men" retaking America.

I swear to god every fucking white person who pretends to be an injun needs to be beaten profusely until they stop this larping bullshit.
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>>61055823

as a half injun I can confirm this

my native mom goes back to the rez to work as a nurse in their ER .. where they see a lot of people come in as a result of violence

she's also escorted to a hotel where the other nurses go during their off time and have armed guards around 24/7

they do make more money to work in those shit holes though
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I once hugged gas with an Indian in jr high. This nigga was basically fighting over the can.

DO NOT HUFF GAS
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>>61057520
Well then I guess I should thank the great people of Alabama self funding all of this. Oh wait....
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>>61057513
>be "indian" with blue eyes
>get buttmad someone calls mexican-looking people inferior

It isn't my fault the 16% injun DNA in you makes you a faggot
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>>61057362
What's it smell like? I bet I have that smell lol
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I give a fuck. Liberals "give a fuck" then attack the tribes even more when they do something that might actually help them not starve. The DEA destroys their hemp crops every year, meanwhile a bunch of American farmers are hijacking the industry a few years later. The anti-racists are the biggest racists of all, but what the fuck am I supposed to do about it? Americans are dumb and won't ever make the right choices in anything. All that's left is to do what I want personally while our idiot populace burn down our nation.
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>>61057711
nice dubdubs, half-injun tree river nigger too. My white dad worked in the BIA for good while until he moved us off the rez
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>>61057717
>DO NOT HUFF GAS
You literally huffed gasoline? wtf, anon.
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>>61057668
Have you ever even met an Indian bro? A Cherokee?
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>>61055406
Real answer?
Because they were cannibalistic fucks who would rather fight Europeans individually than assimilate into society. I mean in the long run it worked better for their descendants than any other natives of colonies. Black south Africans are still treated like shit but native Americans get free everything
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>>61057829

harr I've never been and probably won't ever visit the rez, she drives like four hours there

not living there is worth not getting any free shit desu family
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>>61057911
Yeah my 7th grade science teacher was a cherokee

She was also fucking white

Fuck off with your pretending to be indian so you can get more welfare bucks, you faggot redneck
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I love the native americans OP. I take free cases of whiskey into the res all the time. Pick up a few packs of cheap smokes on my way out.
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I heard a lot of Indians live in the cities and not on the rez (they visit the rez though, because family and tribe and stuff). The ones on the rez are either trying to keep traditions alive by doing something, or doing nothing and being drunks.

Lets hope the ones doing good (for instance, some tribal members in MA are reviving their language based on texts likes a bible written in their language), or likeone tribe Ive read about that is taking to farming. Etc.

The guys on the rez are likely drunks because the productive ones live off the rez. And if you live in New Mexico or something, you will see a lot of beggars who say they are Navajo but who really are Mexicans trying to get sympathy points.
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>>61055406
I do, the redskins have tax free alcohol and cigs

guess those addicts are good for something after all!
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>>61057935
>Black south Africans are still treated like shit but native Americans get free everything

This post is why there needs to be some kind of selective screening before you're allowed to post on /pol/
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>>61057935
The cannibalistic part WTF?!?!?!

They have their fare share of problems but the overwheling majority of native tribes were fucking nature lovers and some of the most peaceful people in the world at the time.
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>tfw you realize you are American
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>>61058029
>(for instance, some tribal members in MA are reviving their language based on texts likes a bible written in their language)
>white people are wasting time playing pretend in order to get the government to give them more money
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>>61058092
>They have their fare share of problems but the overwheling majority of native tribes were fucking nature lovers and some of the most peaceful people in the world at the time.
>WTF?!?!?!

How is it that /pol/ somehow attracts retards from youtube? Fuck off idiot.
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>>61055406
We pretty much killed them all and spend too much time worrying over the poor jews and blacks.
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dey gud bois who build casinos and huff paint, they dindu nuffin.
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>>61057988
Bullshit retard, yeah a lot of Cherokee Indians appear white but they have to be 1/8 Cherokee to be considered Cherokee. There are still full blood Cherokees where I live.

Second, I'm not even Cherokee! Get out of your head!
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>>61057983
Only reason I ever go back is for funerals. Whole nother state away now.
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I read somewhere that Native American populations are the fastest growing ethnic group (not counting fake Indians and "I'm 1/16th Cherokee" guys) relative to their size.

Good for them, I'd hate to see them disappear.
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>>61056232
> You look at the abundant riches of North America and Africa and you want to tell me they couldn't have?

>You look at the abundant riches of North America and Africa and you want to tell me they couldn't have?
This is the exact reason that led to
>They were just content to sit around and do their own thing.

living in the north forces you to long term plan, because if winter comes and you're empty handed, then you're shit out of luck.

You need good infrastructure like roads for when it snows.

You need good, solid homes to withstand the cold and keep you warm.

You need to invent ways to harness fire and energy to beat the element.

Versus:
>yo jamal, nigga we need some houses
>i go u tyrone dis lion shit and straw gets the job done
And it literally did, because all they really needed was shade IF THAT

Meanwhile they could always kill and pick what they wanted to eat because it's warm at all times.
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>>61058202

yeah but .. do the feds gibbs you free shit?
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>>61058092
No bro. The majority were cannibalistic. Aztecs, Mayans, Algonquins, Huron, the entire Iroquois nation.
Look up what Mohawk actually means.
Disney is not an accurate portrayal of anything historic. Nature loving is not a very ignorant description.
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>>61055553
Reservations are the epitome of why government handouts are a shitty idea.
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>>61058241
Not that I know of. I got a gibsmedat my dad told me about after I graduated but that was it. I think they give free money if you live on the rez but honestly have no fucking clue.
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>>61057876
Yep, several times.

Took years to recover. Note, I graduated college with a 3.69, it was 3.77 at its highest.

I watched fear and loathing. The ether scene made me want to get high.

It was an amazing high, hence why so many ppl huff until they die on the spot.

>that huffing sound on the gas can reverberating, the air conditioner/electronics whizzing, that tingling in your teeth. That instant dream world trip. Wanting more as soon as you start to come down. Throwing up to get sober. Tasting gas on your breath for hours.

Lucky to be alive.

DO NOT HUFF
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>>61058331

Are you an injun?

Huff gas and drink Listerine erryday?
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>>61058311

If only we could have been born in Canada .. lots of gibs and not fat white wimmenz of a liberal persuasion
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>>61058331
that sounds pretty cool. i think i'm going to try once and only once. thankfully gas is cheaper now.
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>>61058194
>appear white

Because they are white

>Get out of your head!

What the fuck are you even saying you mongoloid? Are you even from 4chan or are you some migrant from some other shithole website that just drifted in?
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>>61058251
Sothern nigger natives should not be compared with northern natives. It's like comparing Indonesians to Japanese.

All the Indians in my family are above 6' tall, same thing goes for most natives in the NE. we're not the same people as the southern natives
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>>61056572

Native
>unruly faggots

Niggers
>could be exploited for hundreds of years and bred until the point where the political climate changed and kept them around and still keeps them around with hand outs

If we REALLY wanted to and there was no consequence you realize we could just roll into Africa and take the whole continent down right?

I mean for fucks sakes that IS WHAT HAPPENED by a number of nations until WWII fucked up the empires and they rebelled.

When everything was said and done it was no longer okay to just steamroll inferior nations and races and now look what you have.

Loose pockets of savages that haven't developed shit.

Modern day Africa is no better than Native American America.
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>>61058210
Makes sense.
>Last group of homos to settle down from the nomadic life style.
>population estimated to be twice that of Europe and Africa by 1400ad
>despite having as many population devastating wars and keeping cannibalistic religions longer.

Seriously the only reason there were so few by the 1600s was because they had a plague worse than anything in Europe that started exactly where the Vikings are suggested to have tried to settle.
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>>61058311
Per cap is provided by the tribe themselves, not Uncle Sam. Some tribes can afford it but not all.
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>>61055406

Because "Native Americans" need to go back to Beijing where they belong.
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>>61058480
And yet you were just as cannibalistic up and through the french and Indian war. The shit you people did to each other before civilization found you.. God damn
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>>61058397
Nope, white boi
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>>61058574

b-but muh peaceful moderate injuns muh flowers and medicine man.
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>>61058443
You'll die
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>>61058574

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyrPzy6y_IA
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>>61058528
So it was the vikings and not the Spanish that started that?
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They view colonialism like a football game.
They always brag about how they #REKT treeniggers while gorging their fat asses on Thanksgiving like a bunch of goddamn ingrates.
If you want to part in Gluttony fine, but stop doing under the false pretenses of being "thankful".
Fucking queers.
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>>61058629

Daaaaamn son, sheeeit.
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>>61058194
I'm less than 1%, and I'm a card carrying member of the Cherokee Nation.

I don't know where you got the "they have to be 1/8" thing from, but it's completely wrong. Like, I'm even eligible for an Indian scholarship.
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>>61058659
I mean until you can provide proof, whose to say. But 150 years after this south traveling plague hit, another one went north after the Spanish... Soooooooo who knows why or how it started. But it is hypothesised the Vikings started a plague worse then what the Spanish did.
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>>61058678

Don't you need 1/4 for full ride in public colleges.
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>>61058678
The Cherokee have no blood quantum requirements only being too be a descendant from the Dawes era enrollment stuff.
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>>61058788
Nope. Just have to be on the rolls of a federally recognized tribe.
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I live near a fuck ton of res' the first time I saw I was shocked at the level of self destruction just from the property. Every other houses burned down or boarded up. Trash everywhere. Brand new trucks and SUV's everywhere.
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>>61058658
http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/namerica.html
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>>61058788
Native don't get free college bro. They gotta get scholarships just like everybody else. Some schools offer free tuition because it's in the school's charter.
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>>61058678
>>61058788
THAT'S it. My bad b/ro
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>>61058812
To be fair, 'ethnicity' and 'tribe' don't necessarily mean the same thing. Like adoptions, marriages, etc.

Not all white skinned injuns are just fake indians trying to scam the government.

Of coarse, every tribe has its own requirements for membership, some are more lose than others.
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>>61058880
They get free college in Canada, you rarely see them there though.
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>>61058959
True but if you're a white skinned dude wanting to claim Cheerokee then that's all you need to do so; be a descendant and you can go get enrolled.
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>>61059059
It's really a shame. One of the most BRILLIANT mind i've ever met was a native american, the only one i've ever seen at the uni in more than 8 years. But the guy was a genious, and he told me he felt many people in his native entourage were smarter than him, but were too fucked up in the head to pursue any kind of studies.
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Who cares of they were cannibalistic hundreds of years ago?

And the Romans made plumbing out of lead that slowly poised them, so what?
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>>61059059
The tribe of casinoniggers nearest to me won't give any descendant who doesn't graduate at least high school the $10,000 a month they get from running a casino. Some can't even do that.
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>>61059059
I don't know much about the Canadian natives but they're damn fools to not take advantage of that.
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We care about them just enough to remember they existed and dress up like them on Halloween. Also some towns are named after them. I live in New Jersey though so they are basically no reservations around here.
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I am Native Alaskan. Born and raised in a village w/ subsistence hunting, dog mushing, fur trapping, etc.Modern Native/Indian culture has a strong sense of nihilism because of how hard we got fucked, but this is changing since we are now actually allowed to be proud of our heritage.

Native Alaskans were still being forced into boarding schools till the 80's. The vast majority of our people died from disease introduced by white people and there are still many elders who remember disease sweeping through the village.
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>>61059314
In MA there is the Wampanoag. One group of them live on Cape Cod, and anther group on Nantucket. I think they are seperate tribes, despite both being Wampanoag.

They are doing OK, I guess.
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>>61059468
I bet there are some white people too who remember a disease wiping out their village.

The great influenza, aka the Spanish flu.
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>>61056747
Some of you guys are alright don't use a blanket tonight
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>>61059468
My brother
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>>61059597

Noice
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>>61055406
>American Indians are a conquered race and should act like it.
>Aboriginals are a conquered race and should act like it.

Source: Literally my mum who grew up in Papua New Guinea.

They should thank christ they werent massacred like most indigenous populations.
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Yeah, one thing I keep hearing about American/Canadian/Alaska natives is that for many of them, times are shit, but much better than it used to be, but things are looking up now as things keep improving.
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>>61055406
>Hey, USA. Why don't you give a fuck about your native Americans? Serious question here.

A man should take care of himself. Children need to grow up.
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i think its retarded that natives literally have more rights than everyone else. fucking disgusting, get a job. im not even a stormfaggot either
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>>61055406
Because most of us integrated a long time ago.

Only the bitter old folks cling to the "old ways" and the lazy fags on the rez go along with it to live on the gov't tit.

The only park that sucks is the language is dying but that is just part of what happens to stagnant cultures, facts of life.

I'm from the Penobscot people but I don't make it my identity. I'm fucking American.
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>>61059312
the ones who live on reserves have jew chiefs who take all of their money, and they spend half their time huffing gasoline and selling weed. reserve natives are degenerates even by a non meme definition. the ones who have decided to get out of that shithole are mostly alright though
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I remember one of the Drag(on)cave regular users (or maybe it was a mod) was raped on an Indian Reservation and kept the resultant kid.
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>>61055406
>Giving a shit about indigenous peoples

Wtf is this fuckery
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>>61059994
They aren't even indigenous. No one is to North America.
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I think there should be a reform with how native tribes are in America. Increased sovereignty for decreased handouts.

Maybe an incentive for knowing a native language or being an expert craftsman or something instead of just being a native who can breathe.
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>>61059597
I laughed.

>>61059596
That shit has a pretty powerful effect on people.

>>61059607
May your corporation check always be fat.
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>>61055406
Indians were mostly savages. It depended from tribe to tribe, but most of them would just go to war with the settlers right off the bat.

And even then most of them were going to die for disease regardless.

They did have cool art though. Specifically the PNW
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>>61060040
This. Amerindians are just good ol' fashioned gooks with a bit of a tan.
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>>61060079
>tfw you realize we are making all of these comments about "if x person isn't elected, our country is doomed" when right now every 1st world country and everyone in it is doing infinitely better than half the world, and there was a time period where people were dying at age 30 from diseases they didnt even know existed

hey, at least we aren't complaining about people misgendering us on the internet, right?
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>>61060190
Hey fucker, we're gooks with a tan AND alcoholism.

Learn my pronouns shitlord, drunk, drunks, drunkself.
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>>61055406

The problem with the descendants of the indigenous peoples of America (I dislike using the term "native American" to describe these people exclusively since literally everyone born in America is by definition a native American) is that they just can't let go of the fucking past. All they do is bitch about how their culture was taken and their land was taken and the white man screwed them over and this and that.

>B-but...Columbus...

What, do these people think that if Columbus hadn't discovered that there was another continent between Europe and Asia that their whole civilization could have remained unchanged and intact into the 21st century? That the rest of the world would have continued developing and expanding, building highways and computers and satellites, and somehow this entire continent would have just gone completely unnoticed? That they would have just been able to keep on living in wigwams and teepees, hunting buffalo with bows and arrows, and the entire rest of the world would just go on about its business, without ever being curious what that giant dark spot on the map was?

>B-but...muh land....

Well, tough shit. The tribes indigenous to the land mass that is currently called America have a point when they say that they were not treated fairly by the US government. But that's kind of how conquest works. The superior conquering force gets to make the rules. That's why it's usually a good idea to secure your borders and invest in a strong military, so you don't get invaded by conquerors who want your land and resources and don't give a shit about your human rights. Play a game of Civilization some time; see what happens if you're still trying to fight wars with ancient-era technologies in the nineteenth century.
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>>61060311

contd.

The problem with these people is they can’t manage to let go of the past and live in the current era. All they do is sit around and rage about how their land was stolen. First of all, these people didn’t even have a concept of land ownership at the time they were conquered, and they didn’t have a property inheritance concept either, so their descendants’ claim on the land is baseless to begin with. Second, land ownership at this point doesn’t mean shit. What the hell would they do with their land even if they got it back? They don’t even do anything with the land they do have. Just having land doesn’t necessarily do anything for you; you can buy a parcel of land in the middle of nowhere for practically nothing. However, if you can’t develop it or grow something on it or do something with it it’s essentially worthless.

The problem with the indigenous tribes is that they simply can’t come to terms with the fact that they fought a war and they lost. To make matters worse, they completely refuse to adapt to the reality of the world they currently live in. They just sit around on reservations being angry at people who’ve been dead for centuries.

If you’re an Indian, or a native, or an indigenous tribesman, or whatever the fuck you want to be called, and you’re reading this right now, here’s my advice: go to college. Get a job. Get off the reservation and do something with your life. Whatever your culture might have been once, it’s gone and it’s not coming back. You want land? Save up a little money and buy some, for fuck’s sake. Start a business. Do something. You can hang on to that whole pissed-off Indian mentality if you want. It’s an exploitable minority status; you can milk the shit out of it and get all sorts of grants and gibsmedats that you can put toward a college degree or a business or anything you want. Be smart.

Fuck, I spend too much time on this board. I'm going to bed.
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>>61059956
>I'm from the Penobscot people but I don't make it my identity. I'm fucking American.

Why not, you can be both Penobscot and American. 'American' doesn't really say much.

Saying you are from New York, says much.
Saying you are 2nd gen immigrant with a dad from China, says much.

'Penobscot native' seems like such a good identity to just throw away. Considering all the plastic paddies here, just to have an identity other than just 'vanilla american'.
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>>61060201

That is really what gets my blood boiling about the PC movement. It's really bad for me because I am fair skinned and I have blue eyes. I just look like a tan white person, and I have had SJW's give me shit for talking about race issues. I've literally had to show them my tribal ID to get them to believe I am way more minority and a specialer snow flake than them.
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>>61060450
Because saying "I'm ______-American!" is literally special snowflake faggotry. I'd rather identify as just an American, I'd rather be counted among my countrymen than among the welfare queens and alcoholics that happen to be in my lineage.
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>>61060748
Hell fucking yeah brother.
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>>61060368
> All they do is bitch about how their culture was taken and their land was taken

Imagine someone coming to your home, taking your children, and sending them to a Muslim school where they are forced to learn Arabic and practice Islam. This wasn't something happening in the 1800s in Alaska. This was happening until the 1980s.


>The problem with these people is they can’t manage to let go of the past and live in the current era. All they do is sit around and rage about how their land was stolen.

No one in the village complains about white people. We complain about people from outside the village trying to tell us how to live our life. This "Whitey took our land" meme literally never happened at any tribal meeting I've been to.

>go to college. Get a job.

I did. For free. Get fucked.

>Whatever your culture might have been once, it’s gone and it’s not coming back.

Okay whitey. Stop worshipping Vikings or your 1/100th French ancestors first.
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>>61060368
>>61060311
Well said
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>>61060368
>Whatever your culture might have been once, it’s gone and it’s not coming back.

Here is the secret, Native culture hasn't disappeared because the natives are still there, everyone moves on with the times and every culture changes. American culture from 100 years ago for every American is dead, or rather evolved into today, not just the Indians.

There is no magic date where Indian culture stops being 'inauthentic' simply because they don't hunt from horseback everyday and speak English. (Some individuals may still hunt from horseback, and by God that's awesome). Likewise, speaking their native languages is not backwards either.

All cultures moves along with the times.
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>>61060748
Well, good luck to you then, Mr white guy with no identity.

I'm a New Englander, that's my identity. American is 2nd to that. Get fucked, boring cuck.
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>>61061160
>New Englander

If you're not from Maine, you're a homo liberal.

Sorry you need people to be cultural caricatures to satisfy your autism. Also sorry you have to go full Tumblr and worry about what you and everyone else identifies as.
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>>61055406
Cause they sold their land for fucking beads. What are we supposed to do? Treat them like they can make rational decisions?
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>>61061309
Bullshit.

What you are saying is like a Scottish person saying "I'm not Scottish, I'm pan-European"

This is /pol/, have cultural pride or get out.
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>>61058425
The fat liberal white wimmenz are steadily increasing oh listerine-purchasing comrade.
The gibs are pretty rad here though. Got my post-secondary funded by my dads band.
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>>61061417
If he is in Scotland, than of course he is Scottish.

If it is an American citizen talking about lineage or ancestry, that is also fine. I don't omit being native, I just don't tout it as being my sole identity.

The line is drawn when you're saying you identify as a Scot over identifying as an American when you're an American citizen. It is utter faggotry. It's like how Jews don't integrate because they're so wrapped up in being fucking Jews.

This is /pol/, have nationalism or get out.
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I was born here, so I think I'm a native American.

We wuz land-owners 'n sheeit
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>>61059468
Oh shit, are you Yukon River, coastal or muktuk native?
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>>61060834
>"Whitey took our land"
The Indian wars were started by Indians massacring settlers. Look it up.
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>>61061655
Alright, fair enough. I didn't say you had to wear it on your sleeve either.

Its just the self-loathing indians, they are bigger cucks than 10 Swedens put together.
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>>61061655

I am Native and proud of it. Just like I am proud to be from the greatest country to ever exist.

Maybe you would take more pride in your Native ancestry if you actually did anything Native. Have you ever dog mushed, fur trapped, made an igloo, worked a fish wheel, etc? I am sure you have done all the cool American shit which is why you identify with it so strongly.

There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying your heritage. What makes America great is that I can have my own culture and still be American.
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>>61061417
Also, nice strawman.
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>>61061817
Bullshit, no true Scotsman is made of straw!

:)
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>>61061709
Aleut aka coastal

>>61061757
Keyword in that sentence is Indian you ignorant fuck. Native Alaskan =/= Indian.

Please re-read my post about how I've never heard this meme. No Natives bitch about white people taking our land, we do bitch about you fucks who DON'T live in Alaska telling US how to live.
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>>61061795
Right, I don't consider myself white. I'm native through and through, I've just done more with my life than for my race to be my sole point of pride. Above all other things, I'm a combat infantryman and a Bronze Star recipient.

>>61061800
My people don't do a lot of that shit, fool, wrong side of the country. But yes, I've participated in tribe stuff like glass eel fishing and hunting and whatnot. I never said I completely reject my heritage, I just said I am more than my race.
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>>61055406
There's only 5 so.
Wait your turn.
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>>61061874
kek
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>>61056642
>>61056484
>>61055461
they're called prairie niggers for the love of god
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>>61061953
My dad's family is mostly Tlingit. I hope my ancestors never raided your ancestors.
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>>61055406
>Why don't you give a fuck about your native Americans?

We do. We let them open casinos and make billions of dollars.
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>>61055406
Because they're worthless subhumans who should be studied for scientific and historic documentation then wiped out.
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>>61055406
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>>61055406
They still have their own land, with their own special laws, and still get money from the government just for being Indian. They're smart because they know this, and don't make any fuss about it unlike so many others.

Source, I live right next to many Indian lands, and know many good Indians. Few of them are dumb enough to complain.
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>>61061953
>ignorant fuck. Native Alaskan
pick your ass up off the bar floor and go home before you start a War Dance
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>been alive 35 years
>been to 43/50 states
>lived in Chicago, LA, Denver, Houston, KC, and Vegas
>never seen one outside of a casino or reservation
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Why are Native Alaskans considered different from Indians?

Maybe just call you all First Nations, like Canada.
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>>61055406
We do faget. Core tenets of military doctrine still survive today learned directly from the fucking redskins, you can't trip without falling into some park, river, lake, township, or county named by the fucking bead niggers. The red man chose a death on his fucking feet against a force so advanced and powerful that they had no chance of ever winning an open conflict against it. Americans heaped glory on their first protectorate for daring to stand and fight against them. Do you know what happens to lesser enemies in human history? They culture is ground to dust instead of known across the conquering nation.
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>>61062224
Nice meme, mind if I save it?
:^)
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>>61056747
Well then what is your preferred racial slur Geronimo?
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>>61062349
>The red man chose a death on his fucking feet against a force so advanced and powerful that they had no chance of ever winning an open conflict against it.

Because Custer lived to die of old age?
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>>61062078
>prairie niggers
buffalo fucking red-coons
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>>61062117
I just hope they killed some Russians.
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Like blacks, they are a garbage race and even the 'good' ones are prone to vice and never do well in life
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>>61062310
Vastly different cultures. Indians from California have some common culture links to Indians from North Carolina, but Native Alaskans are just so different they have their own classification. We have a fair amount in common with the northern coastal tribes in Canada and some common links with Sami's.
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>>61055406
im 1/8 so im white as far as im concerned, for some reason though i inherited the eye shape,
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>>61055406
Why would we care about those who not only actively chose to resist assimilation into the more powerful society, but un unitedly fought it and attacked it, encouraging and furthering the devision and hatred there in. Provoking war over and over as the more rapidly growing and increasingly powerful society pushed out instead of peace.

Why, OP, should we care about the cannibals and savages who choose to remain and fester in the dark primal life style even after wester civilization showed them the light.

Idk man but they have free college now and their own vast territory's where they can do what ever they want. They have the worst gambling ratios the world has ever seen and make out indignantly well from those. They can vote too.
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>>61057717
Words to live by
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>>61061800
>Maybe you would take more pride in your Native ancestry if you actually did anything Native.
Stay drunk for a week? Does that count?
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>>61063076

Yeah that counts. lol
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>>61063076
Damn right, you're one of us now, buddy!

For real though, I must be lucky because I can have one or two beers every few months with my friends and not feel the urge to drink mouthwash and vanilla extract until I vomit.
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So uh... own any tomahawks?
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>>61056250
POO IN A LOO? oh you mean the Injuns, hey chief.
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So whos better? Injuns or Indians?
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>>61063249
My Indian friends helped me quit drinking. i knew i could never keep up with them - there's no use even trying.
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I grew up on an indian reservation

Having never really interacted with black people I can only assume that the hatred and disgust I feel for Native Americans is exactly what people feel who interact with black people.

they are all drunk welfare queens who think that the world should bend over backwards for them since their ancestors endured hardships

I honestly wish Andrew Jackson had just killed them all when he had the chance
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>>61063646
I went apeshit with drinking in the Army, but so did everyone because it was a line unit. You might actually die in the shit so why not get drunk every night?

Now I have a couple every once in a while, but I much prefer smoking bud. Alcohol buzzes are no fun for me anymore.
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>>61063646
When you've been doing it as hard and as long as we have it can be a tough gig, and I am glad I quit drinking. I was on a fast track to an early grave with that shit.
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>>61055406
>giving a fuck about prairie niggers
OP plz, they are to us as abos are to aussies, theres a very good reason why andrew jackson went out of his way to cane the shit outta them.
the only people who legitimately give half a rats ass about a prairie nigger has never lived nearby one.
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>>61063631
We are dying off and we poo in loo, or at the very least a hold in the woods.

Indians poo in street and are growing in population.

What say you, ladyboy?
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>>61055406
They're Listerine swilling savages that should have been killed off to the last "man". Fuck the stone worshiping savages. They are unworthy of the gift of life.
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>>61063891
*hole

Damn my subhuman DNA for my typos!
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Check out stats on The Standing Rock reservation and The Pine Ridge reservation. It's a third world country right here in the richest country in the history of the world.
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>>61064046
What are the fucking "stats" bro? Just tell us jesus. Nobody is going to look it up, we know the fire water boys are walking trash.
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>>61055406
They were savages who chose to rape and pillage each other until it was too late and then refused to assimilate into the strongest society on the continent as it grew.

Why should we care what happens to people who choose a difficult life? Is it my place to tell a masochist how to live? No. And they don't deserve my attention for it either.
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>>61056542
>and that the reserves were pretty much shit tier.
the reserves are what the american indians make of them.
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>>61063891
You mistaken for thailand but, pretty much Injuns have some pretty sick history tho, while the poo in the loos are kinda lame for me tho.
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>>61055406

I tried once, but then I met some. They were all dirty, bitter assholes that blamed every single white person for their problems. I remember one family getting their animals taken away because of their living conditions and not being fed well. Overall neglected, and it was taken as a personal attack purely because they were native american, not because their animals were seriously living in a shit hole and being poorly treated.
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>>61056660
What is this from?
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