Seriously who gives a shit about New Yorkers? Their values are cancerous. Cruz is then anti-new york, anti-finance, anti-elite candidate and he proved it. Deal with it Trumptards.
Cruz didn't gain any voters for the GOP by attacking "New York values". Rural Americans who hate NYC will vote GOP regardless. The party needs someone like Trump who can sway urban & suburban independents and moderates.
Southerner here. I don't hate New Yorkers. I hate liberals. We have some of them in my state. There's a lot more in NY to be sure. But every state has conservatives. Every state has patriots.
And frankly, the south and the north have been through a lot together. Both good and bad. We fought each other once, but we fought by each other's sides a lot more often. I don't appreciate a Canadian coming along and trying to divide us.
>Fuck off. Nobody who blanket insults an entire state gets to be President.
This, I can't believe someone trying to become President would run with the "They aren't the real America" false dichotomy us vs. them bullshittery
You're supposed to represent all of America, you think Obama likes dealing with the 80,000 death threats he probably gets a day from Mississippi and shit? He never calls out places specifically. Bush didn't either. Because they're "Presidential." GOP is fucked, none of these chucklefucks has the right stuff
Trumpfags are only going on about this stupid side-show because they can't take anything else out of the debate. Their big birther showdown went down in flames, and Trump came out of the exchange looking weak and calculating.
And it's a loser for them politically too, to be blowing this beyond all reasonable proportion. New York is Trump's home state, so there's literally nothing to lose to call Trump out on it, using Trump's own words (my values aren't Iowan values), besides which it's the 41st state to vote. 99% certain the nomination will be locked up by that point. The comment plays well in the first states to vote, Iowa and SEC states.
It also goes to show what hypocrites they are on anything Trump. Earlier in the thread the idea of bringing up 9/11 was mocked. Then Trump resorts to it and they turn around and say it was the knockout punch of the night. Pathetic.
>Their big birther showdown went down in flames
Didn't go down in flames at all. Millions of people watching learned for the first time tonight that Ted Cruz is a Canadian. Most voters are not political junkies that read every article and get into debates online. According to polls, there are still a lot of people out there that don't know Cruz is a Canadian. And according to the same polls, there is a built in bias against foreign born presidential candidates in the GOP.
This only hurt Cruz. The outcome of the debate is irrelevant. The debate itself is what hurts Cruz. The more it keeps getting mentioned that Cruz might not be eligible because of his Canadian roots, the more it hurts him with a political party that, for good reason, doesn't warm easily to outsiders.
>Cruz is literally unelectable in a general election,
>let me try to reinforce my unsupportable meme
Cruz is the best of the candidates who've shown already at this early date that they stack up favorably against her.
>imma vote Sanders for spite
And even if you say that, no matter how many times you do, it doesn't reflect in the polling.
Funny thing is Trump will now win NY in the general....
Lol Cruz FUCKED UP big league.
lol the fact that there's people like you out there who are so deluded reinforces the stereotype that republicans are fucking retarded, Trump is the best thing to ever happen to your pathetic party you better hope he wins or the republicans will be a thing of the past, you guys will never win another election if Trump isnt the nominee
>he's backing /pol/'s meme candidate when /pol/'s meme candidates never win
Trump as the presidential nominee is a dead man walking, a divisive character that shot his chances to build a winning coalition with average Republican voters and an energizinng figure against whom the opposition would rally to vote no matter who they select. And I hope to god the Republicans as they were are a thing of the past, as they would be for Cruz to become the defacto leader of the party.
Jesus man you are talking shit about the only man who can expand the party. Polls indicate that 20% of Dem voters would defect to Trump and that he eats a majority of the votes for Blue Collar workers and Independents.
If you cannot see that Trump is the best bet to win the presidency then you are delusional mate.
Your svengali guru analysis of Scott Adams has only been effective in deluding Trumfags into ignoring all reason. Which has its uses, I suppose, in keeping them proudly misinformed.
>forgive the source, and several of its dumb points sourcing politilie; it's the overall message which is important
>Polls indicate that 20% of Dem voters would defect to Trump
No they fucking don't.
>Jesus man you are talking shit about the only man who can expand the party
I'm talking shit about a man who would position the Republican party exactly where the Democrats want it, feeding into a narrative they'd constructed for years. And while he may have crossover appeal, he would depress traditional Republican turnout.
It's why his whenever I look at where he could best serve the ticket it's as VP. Where his presence wouldn't cause so much damage amongst base voters and could still make a play for independents.
On the other hand, look at the internals on Ted Cruz. He's a fucking beast with party voters; they would turn out to vote lining up around the block.
What if it's not just a democratic narrative? What if Nativism really is what half the republicans are willing to support wholeheartedly, regardless of the absence of other reason? If the republican party is going to break up, let it be now. The democrats won't be far behind.
In case you haven't noticed, Rick and Mike are in this race and are getting BTFO right now.
Cruz is not the evangelical candidate. He is a conservative, libertarian/constitutional-minded tea party guy currently operating in the conservative christian ring.
Here; those earlier internals were of Iowa, but here's New Hampshire, a state everyone knows Ted isn't going to win because he didn't set up camp there. But he plays there anyway. Best favorables to unfavorables of the bunch.
>Trump outside of every bubble
And best potential for support (add enthusiastic and satisfied) with among the lowest opposition (add dissatisfied and upset). In New Hampshire, Trump's run away best state. Only Rubio compares favorably, while a Trump win positively angers a full fourth of the state's voters.
Anti-cruzers tried to sink his candidacy with evangelicals a couple weeks ago with a story about how he'd abide by the constitution on polarizing social issues rather than fight tooth and nail on gay marriage or some shit. His poll numbers went up.
Dude, I KEEP TELLING the Cruz people that they are fucking deluded.
THEY WON'T LISTEN.
Almost everyone who isn't a die hard talk radio conservative finds Cruz revolting. It may or may not be fair but he exudes bad vibes.
That Republicans who support him can't see that doesn't surprise me though. They thought Palin was a good VP candidate ffs. Republicans are way clueless. You have to TRY to be this awkward, fuck.
I won't vote for a man who's first generation Cuban. Who admitted he knew communists in college. And who wanted to shut down the government (temporarily laying our national defense.) He gets legal council of a Russian based law firm (a possible GRU front company.)
Ron Paul was a help, though. It's one of the reasons I was among his boosters. But libertarians remain Libertarians, and when they lose out on something they retreat to their corner and cry foul. That the game was rigged, that something was stolen from them and so on.
Chicago commodities exchange, you ignoramus. And it was primarily the government, because it was they whispering into the ears of the banks that they'd get their bailouts if (when) anything went wrong.
>They thought Palin was a good VP candidate ffs
She was, you eater of adversarial media. In the sense that Palin boosted the ticket and avoided an even worse blowout in what was always going to be a change election. The lemon on the ticket was John McFucking "lets double down on what sent people out into the streets with pitchforks" Cain.
>not that she wasn't taken out of the oven well before she was fully baked
>implying that New Yorkers even vote in the republican primary
>implying New York has ever been blue
Cruz knows that New York is shithole. They wouldn't even vote for Ronald Reagan for fuck's sake.
An immigrant from a country that tried to blow us up. Who admitted he knew communists in college. A man who called for government shutdowns (Which Included defense shutdowns) during a time when Russia was moving subs into the Mediterranean.
Oh lets let this guy press the red button. What could go wrong?
And then the same people who vote for him wanted to triple check Obama's nationality.
I get my merch in a couple days.
This. His family has long since sold their souls to the kikes.
Cruz wife works for Goldman Sachs. Cruz's first campaign was financed by low-interest loans from Goldman Sachs and Citibank, which he still owes on. He made decisions that affected these banks while he owed them money. He lied about how he financed his campaign with only his money and played it up. He concealed the fact that he took these loans from Goldman Sachs and Citibank. Cruz is a liar, hypocrite, and corrupt.
Ted Cruz is an absolute phony using an evangelical label as cover to sell out america further and further to the kikes.
Since he's been a senator and fucked up the budget debate, losing to the democrats, we have got obamacare, tpp, no fed audit, fag marriage, the confederate flag shit, etc.
He's a fucking kike sellout.
good luck with your nomoney faggot
Because you, my dissatisfied countrymen need to respect the fact the New York City has many people who disagree with you, is still part of the United States.
and while you hate liberals, in a democracy, you need a loyal opposition. So as much as it pains you to admit, you need to see, that people with different political views have as much inherit rights as you do.
>supporting someone who is supported by the establishment
i thought we already went over this? besides, listen to this cruz faggot talk. this nigger sounds so fake, rehearsed and insincere
Ted Cruz picks and chooses what works for him. His political professor that he said "supported hillary" was on CNN and roasted him.
Cruz chooses to use the constitution against gay marriage, abortion and for gun rights but willfully ignores the part about natural born citizen because, hey, it's open to interpretation, right? Except for when it's against gay marriage, abortion and gun rights.
If someones campaign doesn't openly roast Cruz with this in the coming week, they need to fire their staff.
>in a democracy
in the constitution it says the word democracy a grand total of ZERO times. the usa is, or was supposed to be, a democratic republic. a democracy is 51% controlling 49%. that's not freedom. that's more like communism. also, liberals who mostly have political views that have to do with abolishing the bill of rights are not my countrymen. they are traitors and if this country had any balls they would be executed for treason
>Ted Cruz picks and chooses what works for him. His political professor that he said "supported hillary" was on CNN and roasted him.
The same one who said Cruz was one of the smartest guys he ever had take his course in all the years he taught at Harvard? Yeah, everyone knows that guy is a dyed-in-the-wool leftist and always votes Democrat. Alan Dershowitz is a known quantity in American politics.
Cruz likes New York City values when gays give him money:
Another article showing Cruz's values...
>comes from canada
>generalizes and insults an entire state
>expects americans to defend it
nah, fuck him. presidentn's supposed to unite people not laugh at one country. he's part of the reason why people hate republicans.
his legal status to run for president was already in question, not his power level slipping on his opinion of new york will bring to question how he'd look at other states. and then the way that he fucked up will make people wonder "will he fuck up like this when up against the democrats? because he will hand the election to them if he does."
ALSO what trump said was valid. if there are lawyers and republicans questioning his legal status and then the democrats are already saying it would be hypocritical how the republicans questioned obama's citizenship but not cruz, you can definitely expect them to push the idea that cruz isn't a true american, or even go as far as to try and sue him and abuse the system to get him kicked out if he won the nomination OR was chosen as a VP.
I always wonder at the personality type who thinks linking this was some big revelation deserving of scorn.
The point being? Campaign commercials aren't done in one take. You thought they were? I'm sorry for you then.
Cruz only said this because the majority of New Yorkers have a very different perspective and set of values from Iowans. It was a cheap vote grab for the upcoming caucus and blew up in Cruz's face.
I'm from California and I don't give a shit if people say Arnold Schwartzenagger or Richard Riordan have "California values" because this state is filled with commies and our republicans watered down. Grow up and don't take everything so personally. You sound like triggered college students.
Good. Trump can end his campaign and go home now since he insulted Iowa.
If people bothered to point out every hypocrisy held by Trumpfags, we'd be here forever.
Guess Ted was politically incorrect to say what he said too. And we can't have that in today's America!
trump has ruined so many people's lives. This will hang around "I'm a real down home suthener ahyuk!" cruz for the rest of his LIFE. And then of course Jeb.
meanwhile they call trump hitler and HE STILL KEEPS RISING
LOL Cruz calls JEW YORK CITY then goes crawling over there to get handouts from gay Jews...
Typical slimy politician
Cruz played this story of "oh me and the wife decided to liquidate all our assets and pour our savings into my campaign because we love america" over and over again while not disclosing very low-interest loans he took from the banksters. Cruz is a fucking liar and slimey.
>shit on one state in order to pander to another
I would accept this if he were running as a governor, but he's running for President of the United States. All 50 of them. Not just 49.
What the fuck was he thinking?
>liquidate all our assets
net worth. They never sold their house or implied that they did.
>Trumpfag. Just. Can't. Get. The. Facts. Right.
I believe I made a point above about how misinformed they are.
Fuck off Israel first faggot kike.
Kikes trying to interfere with american politics. We're striking all of their nerves gentlemen.
I'm guessing you didn't even bother to read the article you just posted, no less the headline.
>Earlier on Thursday Rep. Pete King came right at Cruz like some guy he’d grown up with in Sunnyside, Queens, who needed a good slap.
>“Memo to Ted Cruz,” King said in a statement on Thursday. “New York values are the heroes of 9/11; the cops who fight terror; and the people you ask for campaign donations. Go back under a rock.”
>Cruz is a lightweight. He always has been, however well he is doing in caucuses in the heartland. He may do well there. He is just out of his class here. It is the other party that has a donkey as its mascot. But Cruz is the one who’s a career jackass.
>City to him: Get lost.
Ooooh. Neocon shill for the establishment Representative Pete King is against Ted.
Ted us another one about how Cruz is a neocon shill for the establishment, Trumpfags.
Cruz is a phoney elitist lawyer who is riding the tea-party conservative cottage industry into primaries. Outside of parts of the Midwest and the south his shtick is weak as fuck and will win as many states as Santorum did in 2012 if he's lucky.
In the end Cruz is nothing but an opportunistic globalist who's agenda is self-serving vanity and personal enrichment.
Ted Cruz is one of the strongest guys on the side of the American people you could hope to ask for in the Senate and you're supposed to hate him now because he stands in the way to your guy's hopes for the nomination.
But like I keep telling Trumpfags of your ilk, yours and Trump's strategy of division, fear and loathing is the death knell of Republican electoral chances in November, and it's why you'll lose - to the objectively better candidate.
Ted Cruz is a sociopath who is good fooling idiots into thinking he 'represents' them.
He's absorbed the entire canon of CONSERVATIVE memes and just spews them out and you morons eat it up like pablum. Just listen to talk radio for a few days and you already know every single one of Ted Cruz's positions because he parrots Rush, and Levin then rebrands their garbage.
And you actually think Cruz gives a damn about the American people? Ted Cruz wants to be President because 1. Power, 2. Self enrichment, 3 to finally prove to the world he's not Canadian.
The dude is a hypocritical snake who will do anything to get into power. He's Richard III, and Frank Underwood level scum fuck.
His wife was also an investment banker at J.P. Morgan and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Yes, I see you've got all the right conceits. In any case, keep filling up your folder with anti-Cruz propaganda. You're gonna need them for the general for when plan A fails.