The amount of money being blown on drug enforcement, drug incarceration and drug laws hasn't benefited the people at all. You'd think this war on drugs would work if the addiction rate and the drug use rate would drop but it hasn't at all.
The fact that all this drug enforcement is what keeps the drug industry profitable
>>61012668 Then that is the cartel's doing attempting to seize a market in those societies. They exist elsewhere too you know. One in particular is Kazantzaki heroine importation into Russia. While extremely illicit the amount of poppy grown in Kazakhstan is ludicrous
>>61012761 I work at apartment complexes. People who use drugs usually wreck apartments and have a lot of noise complaints called on them. I realize first hand experience doesn't count for much online, but having a drug user has made the communities I work at a nicer place in every instance that it's happened. It might not be stopping the drug use, but it is making the communities nicer.
I think in most cases people who start using drugs are shitty people to begin with, and being able to arrest them for something removes the shitty people from communities.
>>61013091 >but having a drug user has made the communities I work at a nicer place in every instance that it's happened. It might not be stopping the drug use, but it is making the communities nicer. Then that means your area is still a shit hole and won't become better if the drug addiction or drug use rate doesn't go down. Your communities would be getting better if there were less drug users, but nothing about the drug war has stopped drug use, drug addition or people becoming addicted in the first place.
Ergo, just because you arrest someone doesn't mean the number of drug users goes down because another one is produced almost immediately
>>61013291 What I think is that even if they weren't using drugs they would still be shitty people, still have noise complaints called on them, and still fuck up the area. It's a lot harder to get rid of shitty people if they aren't breaking the law.
>>61012912 Who created tht market? We did. Who made no attempt to address why so many of our citizens use drugs? We did. Who shoved our issues into poorer nations so we can maintain that bullshit air of superiority? We did. How can you deny culpability?
>>61013608 Thats just putting the cart before the horse. And in retrospect if the enforcement isn't working (which it isn't) then the market has a risk because people will pay a hefty price for a drug since the risk associated with it being illegal creates that supply and demand.
Ergo if "the drug war" were to end or at least get its head chopped off on all that funding, the cartels would suffer immensely since the risk of getting caught would be so much less
>>61013666 We don't often get complaints for drug use no. But it's not illegal to play loud music in the middle of the day and bother your neighbors. We do get complaints about that, but there's noting we can do about it. Often times those people also happen to be doing drugs, which suddenly gives us a way to improve the community. It's not illegal to be a shitty person, but often times shitty people do illegal things.
>>61014007 Well now I didn't say all drugs should be legal. I'm merely implying the massive drug war that gets billions in funding every year but it doesn't break any sort of public drug use or drug addiction then obviously its not working. I think there are better ways of enforcement that could better help the drug addiction rate. One way I think is educating and simply making sure that kids or people in general resist the urge to pick up the bad habit of those drugs.
I wonder if any of those "Scared Straight" documentaries are ever effective at teaching kids to stop being fuck ups
It's a problem we need to solve but not our fucking responsibility. We didn't make them sell drugs, they did. They are god damned adults and are responsible for their actions, period.
And if you want to know why we haven't solved the problem yet, well that's because liberals don't like the idea of doing what we would actually have to do, which is do a full scale invasion of mexico and central and south america, kill a couple million people and rebuild most of the governments from the ground up. And even then it might not work if the people are shitty enough, as demonstrated in Iraq.
>>61014374 The whole "picking up the habit" is more complicated than that. It involves the circles in which the person has relationships.Its a mixture of social status, personal history, availability and overall context of said person, even genetic factors.
The thugs and the farmers are not a different people. If the shitskins weren't so shit they wouldn't be ruled by druglords in the first place. But they don't, because just like every other country ruled by brown people, the whole fucking thing is might makes right.
Additionally, you're a damned fool if you think america is the only place they sell the drugs, it's probably not even the majority of income.
>>61012223 Based Fujimori in Peru tried to eradicate the coca leaf fields with massive campaigns. The native shitskins went all apeshit and said chewing coca leaves was part of their culture or some shit. Now they have some shitskin leftist ruling them.
I say fuck them, they chose this. Just seal the borders and forget about it, God will sort them out.
>>61012223 Almost all of the people getting btfo in South and Central America are not white. The drug war has allowed the Americas a much whiter future. I am truly grateful for the drug addicts of America.
>>61013091 Bro, I wish that you were my apartment manager. If the hard drug users in my building were gone it would be an enormous improvement. No ifs, ands, or buts. These idiots are a plague. Along with their drugs comes mess, damage, crime, their fucktard buddies. All drug users aren't shitty people. But a lot are.
>>61016812 The thugs are a smaller group controlling a larger through terror. The thugs have this power because they are directly financed by the drug use of the American population. You can claim you electricity comes from the wall which is true but ultimately it originates at a power plant
>>61012223 Why is it possible for everyone to have their own pot fields in Canada, and have it transported into the US, without anyone getting murdered? It isn't the drugs, or the drug use, it is the fact that indigenous Central and Southern Americans are savages.
>>61012223 OP is right: South America was an ethical, equitably run, prosperous Switzerland before the 1970s! Literally the only thing wrong with Hispanic culture is White drug use, especially at a time when no American uses Mexican drugs.
>yes. They need it to maintain the whole operation. Without it they would just be stret thugs breaking into shops
The vast majority of the cartels crimes are low level shit. It's not like they're maintaining a standing army for actual battles. Their tyranny is an ancient kind that existed before guns. Threats of violence to keep people in line, collect your own taxes and kill anyone who refuses.
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