Starting the 4th of January 2016 12pm GMT+1 Sweden and Denmark have imposed border control with Germany.
>Free mobility has been one of the biggest achivements in modern time of the EU.
>Schengen is very important and is now in danger.
>Danish primeminister Lars Lokke says he informed Merkel but refuses to say how she reacted
Left wing are calling it Black Monday.
>Denmark and Sweden are joined by the longest road-rail bridge in Europe
Dont belive the media, its just a ruse to fool the people into thinking that the politicians do something! The control is just look at "ID" can be just a fucking picture and then let you in. Still over 50k bearded children every month, To little to late im afraid. Total war is next stop.
What does this even matter?
Sweden already has a huge amount of immigrants in their country. This is far too late.
So what.. the borders are closed and now they are going to focus on integration? WOW.. that's great! That's means increased likelihood of miscegenation and mongrelization of Swedes! WHOOOO! And once that steps begins... guess what? THE FLOOD GATES OPEN UP AGAIN!
Fuck this shit. It means nothing until mass deportation begins.
EU Passport, EU drivers license, Non-EU Passport with valid VISUM.
Trains delayed 30-45mins due to ID checks on both sides.
Hopefully, hopefully there will be an expansion of the current regulation, so refugees/immigrant/the horde wont be allowed to enter if they doesnt have access papers. this would be do able and it would de-facto almost instantly reduce the influx number to 0.
That is the end game; this is just the necessary prelude to solving the crisis.
Plus the passengers has to go through a ID check in the airport before allowed into the train. It's not like the check we had before when 3 policemen would walk into the train and ask if you had an ID.
>The Schengen agreement in Europe is kill.
I must admit i am a little sad about this;the Schengen agreement has provided great economical benefitts for all of Europe.
To kill this agreement growth in Europe will decrease
Finland also effectively closed the border from refugees by requiring ID's and Visas from refugees coming through Germany and Estonia. Finland also requires anyone coming from Russia to cross in a motorized vehicle. They cannot cross the border on foot or on bike anymore so they are stuck in Murmansk in -30c weather. As an added bonus the sun doesn't rise before the 16th of January. Source: http://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/2016010320900856_ul.shtml
Finnish interior minister: "People residing in Russia are hardly our problem"
it's literally two years, senpai. two years until elections.
who the fuck cares? would you rather have a slightly better growth followed by complete fall to third world status, or a slow growth that keeps growing?
No, they just imposed border controls. Doesn't mean that the EU bastards won't forced more "refugees" down their gullets. I fucking hate it. My mother is Danish and I wanted to move back. Guess we are fucked
>Scandinavia closing borders after snow falls down
Security check in a train from copenhagen to malmo :D
White guy: JUST
Muds: ooga booga whats going on here
Would you guys let Merkel give you an oily handjob?
As the snow starts to fall, so does the EU. soon friends, soon.
The North and UK rise up against Merkels EU.
>it's literally two years, senpai. two years until elections.
SD isn't running on a policy of deportation though dude. I know all about them. They are for cutting back immigration by 90 percent but they make no mention of deportation but rather heightened efforts for integration.
Personally, I don't think SD goes far enough, but I do believe they act as a good means for transitioning into a party that is more extreme.
At least this is my hope.
of course they don't openly mention it, what are you, insane? think of the country they're in.
they have said that they would pay people to go back to their home countries, though.
You are incorrect. SD has a policy of repatriation, they plan to pay immigrants to leave Sweden. They also only want immigration from countries which are culturally similar, so the other Nordic states.
>shengen is dead
Hold on, the EU cancer isn't easy to get rid of. They made sure that in case a country gets pissed of hit it won't stop the ride for everybody. In international public law one of the most famous rules is the reciprocity of the treaties which means that if a country doesn't respect a treaty, other countries taking part to the treaty don't have to respect it too. This doesn't apply in the EU. In the EU the fact that a country doesn't fulfil its obligation doesn't allow other countries to stop fulfulling theirs. Shengen isn't dead at all, it'll come back in full force as soon as the populace will shift its focus from the refugees to something else "more important" like a world cup
>they have said that they would pay people to go back to their home countries, though.
Do they specify paying them to leave Sweden towards their native country, or simply to another country in Europe?
Doesn't marocco have the longest borderwall in the entire world?
>sweden closing borders
I haven't found any info about it neither. But I guess you don't need visa since it's not mentioned anywhere. I guess that would be the last step if this doesn't get the numbers down.
i think you can count on Inger to not let any refugees through denmark
>>Danish primeminister Lars Lokke says he informed Merkel but refuses to say how she reacted
Disgusting, but still better than what has been happening for all these years before.
>Udlændinge, der ikke har lovligt ophold, og som ikke onsker at soge om asyl, får ikke lov til at komme ind i Danmark. De vil blive nægtet indrejse, meddeler Hojbjerg.
Aliens with no legal residence will have the option of A) seeking asylum in Denmark or B) get denied entry to the country
Germany is more attractive to seek asylum in than Denmark because of our harsh laws. Now Germany is stuck with the problem. What will happen next?
> germany will accept the bbc
> finding a solution will take months
> meanwhile another million refugees enter the country
> alles voll.jpg
Then how about stop being a cunt and help us with the immigrants?
No one have the right to bitch for this because no other country have done anything to hamper the situation.
Fucking niggers everything south of Malmo.
This is the saddest moment of 2016 so far. I know that's not saying much, but this is all incredibly wrong.
Atm. the cuckservative party is discussing refugee limits that are acceptable, like 200k / year but just the "right wing extremist" Alternative für Deutschland wants border controls.
I dunno, maybe it's still too good here although 55% of the population is afraid now of the consequences of the mass migration.
Because we're turning our back on our responsibility as a humanitarian superpower. Refugees deserve Sweden as much as the rest of us.
>Also I hope the EU will shatter.
Personally, I hope the EU replaces national governments altogether.
We should build a wall on the outside borders of europe and it's shores. Something like this.
I'm not that cuck, but I still find it terribly depressing that the nigs you guys let in nog'd so hard you had to turn back on the trust and openness you could feel between fellow civilized nations.
It's like not being able to see a close friend anymore because they caught ebola.
>Personally, I hope the EU replaces national governments altogether.
>Hahaha... they already did, and re-opened them after like, two days.
Na, we had border controls for a while but if someone claimed to be poor refoogeee than they still let them in.
>Do the refugees in Germany all get permanent residence permit? Or is it temporary
First they said it's temporary but now the narrative changed to integrating and educating them etc. etc. So I guess most partys except the AfD and the extremist nationalist ones want it to be permanent. Ridiculous.
>>Free mobility has been one of the biggest achivements in modern time of the EU.
>>Schengen is very important and is now in danger.
Schengen isn't even a EU treaty.. Why do people keep pushing these memes?
Also, Schengen provides for border control is certain out of the ordinairy situations... People that actually hold passports to Schengen member states can still travel freely in the Schengen area, provided they can produce said passport when asked..
Schengen is not dead, though you might have to wait in line to make use of your Schengen rights rather than walk right through like previous decades.. It's only the people that are from non-Schengen states that are actually stopped though.
>Free mobility has been one of the biggest achivements in modern time of the EU.
Yes. And then it was RUINED by the "Come one, come all! Free shit! Freeee shit!" hucksters in Germoney.
Technically they could be given temporary status, but that's not happening.
The reality is:
The second you step on german soil you might as well be handed german citizenship.
Noone is getting deported today, and if you fast forward a few years, assuming the middle east quiets down, noone will return there.
Syria is FUBAR. Would you want to go there and live in a destroyed apartment, or do you want to get welfare and drive over a nice highway to your nice apartment.
And by then the refugees are of course firmly integrated into german society. So they will have friends here, they have their own mosque and germany is their new home.
Surely you can't expect them to leave their home - yet again?
depends what kind of status they get
real asylum: temporary with option after 3years to get permanent residence, 8 years to become citizen
subsidiary protection: temporary with option after 5 years to get permanent residence
both types are allowed to work and get money from them programs etc
don't know which status they get though...
same as always, constant shouts of 'racist' if you open up in public. but it's getting better. people are getting more honest, and people are tired of this bullshit. last opinion poll i saw shows that over 1/3rd of the country are for SD, and based on the people i talk to, there's a lot more that agree with SD's stance on immigration, but do not want to vote for them as they disagree with their other policies.
it feels like change is coming, friend. i just hope and pray that it comes soon enough.
I hate that everyone thinks she's doing anything but trying to steal votes from the actual nationalist party.
Her party has no intentions of limiting EU influence or refugees, they are the most pro-EU shills you will find, they simply have the brains to lie about it and steal nationalist rhetoric to make sure they dont become irrelevant. They are only in government because they managed to fool all the people still on the fence about Danish Peoples Party that they had an alternative.
I hate that bitch so much
>How hated is Merkel in germany, like normie newspaper ect.
*shill newspaper Sweden-kun?
>Noone is getting deported today
Like 10 k / year get deported, although in those stats those who got money to "leave country plx" are also counted in
Wir ertragen das, noch.
>there's a lot more that agree with SD's stance on immigration, but do not want to vote for them as they disagree with their other policies.
>it feels like change is coming, friend. i just hope and pray that it comes soon enough.
Are mainstream parties already picking up the policies and suggestions SD did? In this country the Christian democrats and the literal Socialist Party have stances on immigration that were not even held by the 'radical' right 10 years ago... The fucking labour party is pushing policies pic related got murdered over 13 years ago.
Your daily reminder: There are people that actually strongly agree with all of this.
If we ever get out of this mess, this will be regarded as pure autism in a few centuries.
some of the other parties are starting to change and use SD's policies on immigration, yes. the christiandemocrats ( i think), for example, are becoming like a miniature-SD. so yeah, they are picking up SD policies. as far as i know, SD are still growing, though.
>although in those stats those who got money to "leave country plx" are also counted in
Do you have people coming just for that? We've had 'migrants' from Kosovo and Albania that _literally_ just checked into asylum centres to get the €1000+ euro premium for 'voluntarily' going back home.
>Wir ertragen das, noch.
Aber wie lang, anon?
Kek. Is she finished?
We are nationalistic, indeed. It's a draw between Norway and Denmark. Generally speaking, Finland, Denmark and Norway openly say they don't want anymore refugees. Sweden is still living in a state of cuckold denial
Iceland is far away, so they only get a small shipment of refugees relocated by the UN, but it's a very small number. If everyone goes to hell here, I'll move to Iceland
>Because we're turning our back on our responsibility as a humanitarian superpower.
Your whole countrys days are numbered. Why the fuck do my country have to be tucked in between this much dementia!?!
>Refugees deserve Sweden
No one deserves Sweeden...
>Personally, I hope the EU replaces national governments altogether.
See ya on the battlefield traitor
>Do you have people coming just for that? We've had 'migrants' from Kosovo and Albania that _literally_ just checked into asylum centres to get the €1000+ euro premium for 'voluntarily' going back home.
Of course, nederbruder. Fucking Zigeuner came here to grab those shekels. Probably can live from them there for half a year.
>Aber wie lang, anon?
Ich weiß es nicht. The attack in Paris and also the warning of the New Years terrorist attack in Munich might have woken some up.
What's really disturbing to me is that the biggest political partys are still just discussing how many of the leeches we should accept per year.
Like Seehofer of the sister party (CSU) of Merkel's CDU was said to have attacked her strongly although he just said that Germany can accept 200 k / year..
Just last week Norway's immigration minister said the country wants the harshest immigration laws in all of Europe
There has been a big change.
Me and my friends have never talked about immigration before this summer. Now we seem to talk about it every time we meet.
We have the opinion that we should help people who flee for their lives, but we all think accepting 150.000+ in one year is impossible and not a good way to help and it has to stop. This seem to be a general opinion these days. At least I never met someone who says "I wish there were more refugees in Sweden."
>They are all acting tough to gain votes, but once they are in power they won't do a damn thing.
With regards to the Labour party you might be right, as that's just what they do: Appease the masses for votes... Christian democrats on the other hand have a serious interest in not allowing too much Muslims into this country, especially because our Christian parties have traditionally defended the rights of Jews as well... The Socialist Party has serious interestes in stopping immigration as well, as the kind of social policies and programs the SP supports will literally bankrupt the nation if too many unskilled & uneducated folks can come here to make use of them without contributing.. And that's not even gettin into the clash between the SPs vision on female emancipation & gay rights and that of the average Middle Eastern immigrant..
Top cuck, me and my friends basically agree we should gas them all. That we should stick together just like the arabs do if we see a swede being attacked.
Even my SJWs friends are realizing it is an invaision by scum.
I like it that you have sane immigration laws when it comes to skilled workers while having strict laws regarding shitskins because Sweden does the opposite, when you visit their immigration bureau's site you find out that immigration there is hard as fuck unless you have a Swedish wife BUT their is full of ads like "Somali citizens click here", "Switch to Arabic?", "Questions about refugee status?" and so on.
>Even my SJWs friends are realizing it is an invaision by scum.
Really? My SJW friends still think it's our moral duty to gib welfare to the leeches who travel half the globe to get the most benefits.
My entire family is already redpilled on the fact that they are all welfare parasites, talk about it literally every family dinner. We are all upper class academics in liberal city. Feels good brah.
I am pretty sure more then half of the men I meet vote SD, among women it is atleast 25%. Remember that Skåne has historically been a few years ahead the rest of Sweden when it comes to policital trends, just look at where Socialdemokraterna started.
t. sydvästra Skåne
>At least I never met someone who says "I wish there were more refugees in Sweden."
You have now.
Hello, my name is Fahim, and I wish there were more refugees in Sweden.
>No one wants to seek asylum in Latvia or Bulgaria because you get zero money paid by the government
This. If you were truly a refugee wouldn't even a Slav country or any country not in your war torn piece of shit be the most acceptable?
They are welfare leeches. They are Europes version of our niggers and spics except even worse because of their toxic ideology.
Well, at least it's not a native Swede wishing for an invasion this time.
>of Merkel's CDU was said to have attacked her strongly although he just said that Germany can accept 200 k / year..
Well, to be fair the difference between a hard cap of 200k/year and 'Fick meinen scheiße auf, wir schaffen das' is rather significant, isn't it? 200k is actually a more-or less realistic number, especially if you consider Sweden is accepting 100k a year on a comparitively tiny population.
>We have the opinion that we should help people who flee for their lives,
Literally nobody that reaches Sweden is fleeing for their lives.. That part ends as soon as they reach Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan or even the safer parts of Syria. From that part on, it's no longer about safety but about getting the best possible benefits and largest possible amount of cash.
>miscegenation and mongrelization of Swedes
It wouldn't be happening if the Swedes didn't want it to. The men like fucking those middle-eastern girls and the women love having semi-arab babies.
hot girls with herpes is hot as fuck amo
Here in Canada we got cucked pretty hard. Each individual refugee gets 61 dollars a day just for food. Not to mention staying at a nice hotel etc. Our economy is in the shitter (.72 cad = $1.40 usd). And yet he's coming out saying how it's going to cost 1.2 billion to process 25k refugees. There's tons of homeless people In Canada especially after many lost there jobs in Alberta due to the price of oil dropping. So instead of helping our homeless and youth get jobs, he would rather spend his money on 3rd worlders who have no idea how to wipe their own ass. Is it just me or has the world gone fucking insane?
Why are all the male Swedes I see such limp wristed skinny faglords?
You do have a working class I assume? I live in Minnesota and know a lot of Swede farmers (My grandparents themselves came here from Sweden) and they look nothing look like these little faggots.
I am 5'10 and I am a goddamn super manlet compared to your average Swede around here.
Probably too many /pol/ related images with your literal trash of society.
>Well, to be fair the difference between a hard cap of 200k/year and 'Fick meinen scheiße auf, wir schaffen das' is rather significant, isn't it?
It would be. But de jura we can't differ between refoogee #200000 and #200001. They still want to send the others that come here to the other European member states which are sane enough to refuse that.
Also why would Mr. Ooga Booga nigger from Uganda want to be sent to Romania? He could have a life as shitty as that in his homecountry.
It's just shilling like Seehofer did quite a few times before for Merkel's political play. Some kind of good cop bad cop scheme.
Well yeah, they have right wing stances on immigration. Ofcourse, almost all parties have interests in stopping this flood. But they still won't do a thing because they are castrated cucks who don't dare to manoevre outside of the liberal paradigm imposed on us by the globalist elite. You can't win any games if your adverseries make up the rules. The left makes up the rules of how we debate and do politics: 'international solidarity, human rights, no borders, etc.'
I'm very, very happy with all the happenings lately. Also, don't forget, that there's like 10k ISIS soldiers who infiltrated during the great shitskin migration. I really hope, that they butcher swedes and germans in mass. Comfy as fuck!
My opinion is that the majority is mixed, they flee for their life and to what ever country that can offer the best life. I don't blame them, if I had to restart my life I'd rather choose Sweden than Turkey. But we can't take all!
>They are not coming here because they are fleeing
>they want welfare
>they gang up on swedes
>we should stick together like they do
They still believe there are ok minority though. Women often say something like: " We should kick out the ones who arrived the last 2 years and stop immigration, then we should should work integration"
^ În my mind that is still cuck thinking. But it is a remarkable progression and whenever we have political discussion I basically just complain about fucked up stuff and say "Well everyone know we were right now, even green party had to admit it". They usually become quiet or agree.
The last few months of first media and establishment going full "REFUGEES WELCOME STOP RACISM" mode then the same politicians and many journalists having to admit immigration has failed was the straw that broke the camels back. Even immigrants in motherfucking Malmö are mostly against it now.
" We need to think about the people that are here now".
I know my post is incredibly obsessive about this, but damn it feels good, although fuck them for waking up this late. An emotional outburst is what I am feeling. I have been trying to redpill them since 2008. Got so much shit for it but now it is like in no time everyone is admitting I was right all along.
>Why are all the male Swedes I see such limp wristed skinny faglords?
>(My grandparents themselves came here from Sweden)
How does it feel knowing you have cuck blood running through your veins?
Soon, we must first prepare for an immediate evactuation of the shitskins in Malmö and the rest of Skåne north.
Then we have to surround their military base with militia and reinforce large roads leading into Skåne. Then you just send your army east and I think we are golden.
its just you and the voices you listen to (fox news and/or your dad)
come back when you have some numbers on homelessness in your country, their inability to get help, and the total number of immigrants expressed as a percentage of population.
>We should kick out the ones who arrived the last 2 years and stop immigration
The joke is we can't even kick them out since quite a few of the original countrys don't want the scum back. Eritrea for example noticed that it's a good business to export AIDS niggers and forces them to send back money to that shithole or else they'll torture their families.
>An emotional outburst is what I am feeling. I have been trying to redpill them since 2008.
I know that feel, bro. Same here since 2012. I even predicted the refoogee numbers of the last two years. Lost 1/3 of my friends, mostly the SJW ones, for being open about it.
you are forgetting one thing though: what they are doing is against EU law. they are ILLEGALS. it is not their right to choose sweden over any other country, unless they come legally. also, the way you put it they can not be refugees by definition, they are opportunists at best and if our laws were enforced they would never be allowed to enter our countries or treated as illegals and deported as soon as possible.
>Each individual refugee gets 61 dollars
Damn, i'm poor...
>never be allowed to enter our countries or treated as illegals and deported as soon as possible.
Also locked up. Crossing the border illegally is still a crime in Deutschland, although the courts drop the charges en masse.
Here's your reply libcuck.
Newsflash: Fox news doesn't cover Canadian news you cuckold.
Secondly, all the information I am talking about has been in our news. So close your suckhole.
Law? Law? What is Law? Law was a way the white man had of talking to himself in different voices. Law will be like the Carthaginian Tophet, a battered and abandoned carved rock which is argued over by scholars. You are in the developing world now, what matters is power.
Most young people here would really support this, especially young men who are bydlo. Perfect cannonfodder. Unfortunately adults are just regionalistic patriots, they would need a casus belli. How about a false flag?
I once had a dream that Pia Kjaersgard did this, then I had femdom sex with her. If you had any idea how much DF meant to the SD people down here in Skåne. We visited their annual party gatherings, followed your elections and stood up for them against the swedish lügenpresse.
^I almost cried when I heard this speech in my hometown
Literally the best news I've heard all year. Tonight I will light a candle and think about Abdul and his 40 cousins freezing their butthairs of in Murmansk.
"The dream road to Murmansk" soon in a bookstore near you
Hey that reminds me of something. Oh yeah, the fucking situation on the American border. I live in Arizona and I fucking feel you there Germanbro. The fucking federal government sued the State of Arizona over actually trying to keep the shitskins from flooding up from Mexico.
I agree they shouldn't be allowed to pick what country they want to apply for, but on the other hand it would be unfair if other countries had to take the whole burden. If they can't travel in EU then Italy and Greek would be the ones who had to accept all asylum seekers.
I would like that refugees can apply asylum to EU but not individual countries, and then EU assign what country that should handle their request. But as you know EU members don't want to do anything together, so it will never work.
Well played Germany, Well played EU
Singlehandedly destroyed what little benefits the European Union had
>Germany ruins Europe in ww1
>Germany ruins Europe in ww2, countless pieces of great cultural significance is still lost
>Germany ruins Europe in the great refugee crisis
Can't this country just die and split into smaller nationstates or something?
we already tried that. the EU wanted to give african countries 4bil € to take back their refugees but they denied it (because african refugees send 40bil€ of them programs to their families in africa).
The result was .... we gave them the 4bil€ anyway we absolute madmen
>we can make a deal with an African third country and send all the nigger and sand nigger there
Make a deal with Saudi Arabia to buy all the niggers from us
>Make deal with Boko Haram to buy all the sand niggers from us to be abled to demand ransom
Niggers work, sandniggers get back to their homecountrys, Europe is decucked, problem solved
>>Implying they weren't glad when their welfare-class left for Europe....
>Implying the welfare-class left for Europe.
It still costs thousand of dorrahs to be smuggled here.
>Well played Germany, Well played EU
I hope the EU falls now, Schluchtenscheisser. Dann mach ich mir ein Weißbier auf und geniess den Tag.
>>How hated is Merkel in germany,
Except in the forged survey results
Maybe for the nordic cucks. Everyone else with a quarter of a brain knew that if you let literally millions of random foreigners run inside the Schengen zone it will destroy the Schengen zone. Hence the Hungarians defended the border, as per agreement, and got blasted for it.
>>danish mother, italian father
>The son of a race mixing traitor is not welcome
>2 european nations
Now I see why you retards end up so eager to let shitskins in.... you can't see the difference.
Seeing how "the situation" is just Iraqi/Afghani/Somali 20-something men trying to obtain free welfare, the solution is a simple one.
Cut the money-cord and not one of these "refugees" will pass multiple safe countries to reach a Nordic one.
>It still costs thousand of dorrahs to be smuggled here.
So? You think all those Achmeds didn't just get their relatives to gather up the money for tickets?
You seriously think they used money that only they themselves worked for?
I'm fucking sick of this Meme.
1. Russia and Britain had an equal if not greater share of the blame for starting WWI
2. Like Bolshevism and Liberalism were better choices. The United States is largely to blame to reshaping post-war Europe into the mess it is today.
3. The fucking leftist police-state that the United States and friends installed is wrecking havoc. Who knew?
>You seriously think they used money that only they themselves worked for?
You seriously think that the sons of families that can afford a couple of thousand hard US bucks are welfare-class in countries like Afghanistan, Eritra, Uganda, Syria, Iraq and what not? Do you know how low the living expenses are in these countries?
>but on the other hand it would be unfair if other countries had to take the whole burden.
no, why would it be unfair? if they werent happy with these conditions, why did they sign the treaties? it is their responsibility, not ours. sure, it sucks for them, but whats really unfair is getting forced to take your share when you shouldnt have to take any in in the first place - which is obviously happening all over europe thanks to merkel. as for your proposal.. again, why would countries like poland or hungary let the EU dictate them how many illegal immigrants they need to take in when the law is on their side and they shouldnt have to take any of them anyway?
Eh some Nordics like to hate on Southern Europeans for whatever reason. They can get bent though, more Italians I talk to have their heads screwed on straight than Nordics.
Hell even here in America, the most anti-Mexican, racist and downright redpilled people I know are either Italian or fullblooded Spaniards.
Why even make all these goddamn treaties if you shit on them the first chance you get, they took a shit on Maastricht, one on Dublin II and now it's Schengens turn, EU Bureaucrats are looking really strong and decisive right now, it's getting embarrassing to watch, everyday I think our politicians couldn't possible look more weak and cucked and everyday they manage to disappoint me more.
>100 people each give $20 to send good-for-nothing Jamal to Germany or Sweden, knowing that the money he sends back will pay them back in a year or two.
It's an _investment_ for them, anon.
Im glad that there are swedes who care so much about Denmark! We are a brotherly people all us scandi's most stand together.
>he doesn't use tomorrow
>It's really amazing how dedicated Germans are to the destruction of Europe.
Merkel is still fully dedicated to the European undemocratic superstate.
Most Germans aren't.
>>the money he sends back will pay them back in a year or two.
Knowing that good-for-nothing Jamal can get them to Germany with the family reunion shit
Would you want to invest in Syria or Afghanistan?
I wish we would enforce our borders again, send the Americunts home 71 years after the war and get a proper constitution instead of our "Grundgesetz" (basic law) which allows us to lock the shitskins out.
The two world wars were not instigated by Germany nor was it ever Germanies wish to destroy Europe.
After ww2 Germany seized to exist... What is left today of "Germany" is only Germany in name and territory.
Probably been mentioned but cba to read 240 replies.
We only have periodic control. Only some people (= people that might be asylum seekers) will be stopped for checks.
This is done because people reaching the Swedish border and being denied = Denmarks problem, which we don't want to deal with.
So this periodic control is set in place so that we can more quickly enforce full border control, should the situation become worse. Also, this periodic control will only last 10 days unless extended.
>no, why would it be unfair? if they werent happy with these conditions, why did they sign the treaties? it is their responsibility, not ours. sure, it sucks for them, but whats really unfair is getting forced to take your share when you shouldnt have to take any in in the first place
You are right, Sweden has no obligations. But I think helping each other out is important, together we are stronger. What's the point of EU if we don't help each other.
> why would countries like poland or hungary let the EU dictate them how many illegal immigrants they need to take in when the law is on their side and they shouldnt have to take any of them anyway?
They wouldn't have to. They get a quota of applications from EU, it is up to them if they want to deny or approve them. They could deny every single of them. The only thing EU would dictate is the amount of applications and what application.
This is of course a pure hypothetical discussion.
>Finland also requires anyone coming from Russia to cross in a motorized vehicle. They cannot cross the border on foot or on bike anymore so they are stuck in Murmansk in -30c weather.
Time to start a little business.
Its the same for Sweden. The border control can be extended 20 days at a time though.
The problem with this system is that the EU can try to obscure the controls being extended with political pressure, something i fear the Swedish government will give into after a while.
Remember how ignorant our right wing supporters are, but you can't really blame them considering how leftist everything in this country is, they'll grasp on to anything that even suggests right wing policy.
The current order needs to collapse. There either need to be a less cucked governments or a revolution with pogroms and all that fun. Or else we will never get rid of them.
They will probably cry about solidarity, how it threatens Schengen and the EU as a whole. The usual stuff they whine about when member states don't act the way they want them to.
Just reset your IP or click on the image so it lets you use numbers.
I didn't turn my back on Canada, Canada turned it's back on me.
Newcomers get all the job opportunities, welfare, and great treatment while we are told that we are racist and struggle to find work in our field that isn't contract work. I will never buy a house and have a family here. That dream is dead.
numbers arent the problem. Its with words. look at that one on the right. Thats what i mean
>Paying for 4chins access
>Having 4chin on your Credit Card or bank statement
>Being traceable like that
I'm disappointed anon.
I remember we bitched about that when other countries closed their borders.
Hopefully this will give Denmark and Sweden some good negation. "Rest of EU get your shit together or we keep our borders closed."
Keep your fingers crossed.
One of your ministers was crying on live TV when they announced that they had to close the border.
Also the Swedes blame this thing on other countries, such as Denmark, for showing "lack of solidarity" by letting Sweden take all the migrants. And our government is furious at Sweden for closing the border, and says its their naivety that caused this.
So i don't think our negotiations will be any better than previously.
Good thing is ofc that EU is shitting itself because of this.
The ethnic difference between a typical norwegian and a typical southern european is larger than that of a typical southern european and someone from the middle east.
Cultural differences isnt like that though.
>not recognizing the recessive traits of nordics and the importance of preserving these traits
Europe will never become another US, we are a group of countries loosely connected trough a bureaucratic union who's sole goal is to create another US, a sort of McEurope, to make business and commerce easier. We share some similar base values, western values, however our behavior, our way of being, our attitudes,
our culture and people are actually very different.
She probably will but it's only a feeble attempt to stay in power as long as possible. She needs to keep German people conditioned to resent any form of nationalism so that they don't get the same ideas as people abroad. Her ties to media companies have even become kind of personal now since her husband is working for Friede Springer in a newly founded foundation. Springer owns the biggest media group in Germany.
When Sweden has rid itself of all their SJW politicians, and the shitskins has been deported
>Swedish car got stuck in the snow
>I go out with a shovel to help a fellow Swede
>it was abdulla and hijab clad family, not a fellow Swede
Just as the nordic nations fell into utter irrelevancy after the dissolution of the union of Kalmar, so will Europe, if it cannot get it's shit together, and act _as_a_united_Europe_.
But hey, whatever, you keep pushing that "hurr durr dumb South Europeans are inferior" shit. Enjoy becoming Africa 2.0.