Liberal Journalists Trying to See Themselves as Responsible for Trump

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>TFW liberals always gt all the credit

>>60013443
>Liberal Journalists Trying to See Themselves as Responsible for Trump

this isn't an incorrect statement

>>60014420
>this isn't an incorrect statement
I know. Thanks! I am just pretty peeved that they want the credit.

>>60013443
>. If in the end God turns his back on America and we’re left with only the choice of Trump or Hillary Clinton, I will vote for a third candidate out of protest—even if it means accepting what I consider the ghastly prospect of a Clinton 45 administration.

kek

>>60015851
They're doing it wrong. Too many folks don't remember this Earth 15 years ago and the ones that do know why Trump is the only card to play.

>>60013443
>american left
As if americans knew what the left is, fucking delusional journalists kek

Finally they see themselves as useful idiots

It literally is
It's the same as feminists being responsible for MRA and MGTOW
Trump's success is based on not being like a political cuck. he may reflect common views, but his massive success is based on being different

>>60016381
His massive success is based on media being BTFO. It's now the media who looks bigoted, unamerican, racist and manipulative.

swinging pendulum. many in the "alt-right" wish to monitor and control language/acts just as much that if a right wing did surge in popularity again the left would once more become the corner of freedom, free speech, tolerance etc. while conservatives go back to leading lynch mobs. this in turn would allow someone like bernie sanders to be seen as a prophet of peace - something like that.

>>60016240
*tips market*

The bigger question we all have to ask is if Trump fails, Hillary wins, she pushes more SJW agendas and the liberal press continues calling everyone racist, who will run in 2020? Like I see Trump as a goof but be has popularity if he fails I thing we will get a legit white nationalist running in 2020 as this is get worse.

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>>60016536
>*tips market*
I don't get it (fedora?), either way >>60016240 is correct, the left is a hazy thing now and the media does not portray it correctly, same with the way they portray the right, but they will change the truth to fit their "left" agenda, which is actually a liberal agenda, but the liberals have hijacked the meanings of all these words.

>>60016724
>legit white nationalist running in 2020 as this is get worse.
Better to nip this in the bud.

>>60016799
i assumed he was implying the old economic meme about america not having an actual left when someone like sanders is polling in second. europe experienced a massive swing to the left which they are suffering economically from and are now turning away from, but as a result tend to see america's model as extreme extreme far-right. social concerns of the left and right are another matter.


also to expand on the original point, i think the author is missing why many people are turning to trump despite his ever-growing rhetoric (either that or he's playing dumb and tacking on 1000 trump insults just so liberals will read his article at all). getting silenced doesnt just push people towards more extreme candidates, but more extreme ideologies. a good example would be the old "libertarian to nazi" political shift a number of desperate individuals go through, with libertarianism being the original pie-in-the-sky mindeset and fascist thoughts emerging out of some state of nihilism. to make a certain case - a white person might originally not mind non-whites one bit, but once they notice themselves to be more and more ridiculed for being an intolerant white or whatever, they find themselves wondering why they need to be with non-whites in the first place.

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>>60013443
they couldn't change this in time for the election if they tried

the left has burned its bridges

it needs to work non stop for 5-10 years to gain back any credibility and they won't even do that

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>>60013443
>literally what's happening.png

>>60013443
The liberals are responsible for trump. By accusing the right of things they clearly are not both forced the right to not care about those accusations any longer and forced many moderates to the right just to get away from the leftist absurdist madhouse.

The left are responsible for trump for exactly those reasons, and it is glorious.

The best part is, by calling trumps campaign hideous, he is continuing the trend.

>>60017109
>they find themselves wondering why they need to be with non-whites in the first place.
I don't like that this is true, but when certain black groups started calling for segregation, well...

>>60013443

This is a pretty good article. It's essentially correct. I've seen so many people saying the same thing. They aren't necessarily all that right wing but they're infuriated at political correctness.

>Trump himself is too stupid and too incoherent to have any kind of consistent political views about anything beyond hating minorities and immigrants.

why do liberals want to push the idea that a multibillionaire real estate tycoon is a moron?

Semi-Related from about a year ago

http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

>>60018172
Because everyone better than them is dumb, evil, and rich, apparently.

>>60018172
>why do liberals want to push the idea that a multibillionaire real estate tycoon is a moron?

It makes them and their readers feel smart.

You guys will like this.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/01/mummers-parade-caitlyn-jenner-bruce/?adid=tmzhero1

>>60013443
>continue to cockslap the native populace as a whole making them feel worthless and hated by the greater whole
>not expecting a massive backlash on an even higher level then has already occurred
the best part is this isn't the worst it's gonna get for these dumb bastards, you actively hate everyone and everything enough and they will be just like you in the absolute worst way imaginable.
they hate white people for existing, odds are in the future minorities will die in mass, america will go full on purge mode for minorities if pushed hard enough.

>>60018172
Because they don't want you to vote for him.

>>60013443
Isn't this true though? Libcucks pissed off half the population and now said population is rallying behind the only candidate who is willing to stand against libcucks.

>>60016903
>>60016724

If Trump doesn't get in, there won't be any elections in 2020.

>>60018238
>Semi-Related from about a year ago
good find

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>>60018545
>If Trump doesn't get in, there won't be any elections in 2020.

Liberals will fail because they refuse to study history.

For a plethora of reasons, history betrays the left. It discredits their blatantly false arguments, disproves their skewed statistics, and most importantly it predicts its downfall.

The world works in cycles because people refuse to pay attention. The left will consistently grow, gradually, and push until their demands, the effects of their actions, become so absurd that an even more absurd far right will push back. Moderates, the majority, are so sick of the left's nonsense that they either support this far right movement or let it be.

Eventually, the world will learn that far left authoritarians are no good. I'd love to say Trump and others like him will cause it, but the pessimist in me says no.

>the left created trump

correct. just like the commies created hitler and nazism

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>>60018848
>For a plethora of reasons, history betrays the left. It discredits their blatantly false arguments, disproves their skewed statistics, and most importantly it predicts its downfall.
Somehow I and many other Americans don't realize this, until they are 30.
>protip: happened to me that way.

>Eventually, the world will learn that far left authoritarians are no good. I'd love to say Trump and others like him will cause it, but the pessimist in me says no.
Be more optimistic.

>>60013443
It's true. And the extreme left as we know it today is the natural evolution of the counter-culture that resulted as a consequence of the extreme right nationalist movements of the early 20th century.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. This isn't just true of physics. A system will naturally try to counterbalance one extreme with an equally extreme opposite in an attempt to bring the system back into equilibrium.

Unfortunately this means that Trump will pave the way for another extreme left movement and the cycle will continue because humans are too stupid to realize that the answer to one extreme is never it's opposite. It may solve our problems in the short term but it will inevitably create a whole new different set of problems in the future.

>>60019438
>extreme right nationalist movements

>Unfortunately this means that Trump will pave the way for another

Trump is barely moderate right

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>>60019438
So, what do?

>>60019610
This

>>60019620
Vote for a moderate.

>>60013443

>pushing people into a corner makes them snap back viciously

wow it's like these fucking retards don't even know that human beings are mammals.

>>60018965
>Somehow I and many other Americans don't realize this, until they are 30.

It takes around that time to witness a few cycles of left-wing promises followed by inevitable failure.

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This article (aside from the mandatory canned insults against Trump) is quite accurate and makes a lot of sense.

Leftists will ignore it. They're beyond salvation at this point.

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>>60018545
>Banter from the Australian nose bleed seats

>>60019788
http://www.timesofisrael.com/when-it-comes-to-jewish-ties-no-gop-candidate-trumps-trump/
http://www.jpost.com/Jerusalem-Report/Donald-Trump-Israel-and-the-Jews-438335

>>60019438
Trump isn't extreme right though. He's centrist, he just seems extreme because the modern left is so far off the deep end that anything not out and out left wing seems to be extreme right wing.

This is why far right wing parties are surging in Europe. It's nothing to do with people tilting to the right, it's the centrists voting for the most centrist party. The left is simply more extreme than the alternatives.

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>>60020062
>This is why far right wing parties are surging in Europe.
There's also the fact that the left is in the process of transforming their beloved nations by effectively importing a new voter base. People understand that time is of the essence and they must act quickly.

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>>60020062
>Trump isn't extreme right though. He's centrist,
I know gas is cheap right now but you should pace yourself.

>>60020299
>People understand that time is of the essence and they must act quickly.

I think you vastly overestimate the average European's mental faculties.

>>60020403
Maybe I am. But if the ignorant masses could be persuaded by multiculti progressive leftists then surely they can also be swayed by a sufficiently large, clever and determined group of patriots. And these groups do exist.

>>60020533
That's the thing, they weren't persuaded by the multiculti left. They were just too apathetic to stop them. They're just lemmings following the herd.

>>60020533
The ignorant masses will swing in one go. See for example Blair in 1997 managing to get the traditionally conservative middle class to vote for him as leader of a left-wing political party.

>>60020299
Maybe I should control my latent urge to gas you and your family so we could Judeo-Crusade the shit out of the mudslimes, what do you say Chaim?

>>60020677
>portugal

crypto jew detected

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Partly true. The right ushers in presidents when its voter base is galvanized, and at least two decades of rampant PC culture combined with consistent economic downturn and disastrous foreign policy will do that.

If the DNC loses, it'll be because they went with a lame duck candidate while alienating the largest voting base in the nation: white people.

>>60020784
delete this

>>60020960
>SHUT IT DOWN

>>60013443

they think we're fringe elements XD lol. so many more racists than they think, and we're winning

>>60020960
There's not a damn thing wrong with being Jewish.
Shalom, brother.

>>60013443
Americans dont even know what real left looks like hillary is a liar and everything else but not left shes just the same cocksucking bitch like carson or bush

>>60019934
>le jews are the enemy meh meh
if we contain all the jews to NY and Israel, does it matter? don't you know fucking India is going to get more wealth in the future? lets see 0.3% of world population vs muslims numbers. you decide goy
t. a trusting american jew

>>60013443
The author is entirely correct. When you label damn near anything as sexist, racist or whatever else then these accusations lose their power. Likewise, when the entire political establishment fuck up big time (this time on immigration) then don't be surprised that anti-establishment candidates do very well. People don't care about somebodies loud mouth, they care about what this person is going to do.

Donald Trump, or someone like him, was inevitable given the current media and political establishment. The only thing that remains to be seen is whether this anger that has propelled him is contained entirely in the conservative base and whether he can convert independents and even some liberals to his side.

>>60018293
you need to kill almost all of your leaders first and especially banker families

then you are jew control free, maybe

>>60013443
Well, yeah, he got a point there.

This is a typical backlash situation. The left clearly overdid it and now the pendulum swings to the other side, hart.

I remember being absolutely disgusted by the typical inhonest, bullying leftist and thats what drove me to the other side, from moderate leftie to hardcore national socialist.

>>60021135
jes but for the rest of the world it is

>>60021312
lots of white, blue collar dems will vote for Trump. they love his economic policies.

if they don't rig the voting machines Trump will win.

so they also praticte meme magic?

I actually think they are right in a way that they alienated so many people, like everyone who doesn't follow their extreme narrow window of acceptable views, that their destruction is inevitable

>>60021420
national socialism isn't full blown right wing. i'd describe it as economically left, and socially right.

i think it's a pretty good mix

>>60013443
They're right. He's their own creation. All they had to do was not give him air time.

>>60021558
but for many people especially in austria or germany it means, if you are agianst muslims or immigration you are a nazi

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>>60021219
>if we contain all the jews to NY and Israel, does it matter?
There are Jews all over the US so not sure about that.

>don't you know fucking India is going to get more wealth in the future?
designated

>lets see 0.3% of world population vs muslims numbers
Firstly India is mostly non-muslim and actually hates muslims (Pakistan). Secondly muslims don't run the banks, hollywood, or AIPAC

>a trusting american jew
Most American jews don't support Israel.

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>>60013443

The communists created the Nazis.

Nazism was a response to communist threats and insane leftist policy. Pic related.

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>>60021709
Not shredding the norms of fair public debate and implementing a wide scale thought police in every area they manage to infest comes to mind as well.

Much of what Trump is doing is simply throwing their tactics back at them.

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>>60020960
HOL UP

>>60021498
>that their destruction is inevitable
but as of now, they're still winning, getting everything they want and dominating the public discourse.

I sure hope we're getting that Rechtsruck on the way soon.

>>60021558
Economically left is complete shit. Capitalism and a free market is clearly the best system. It has given birth to the most powerful and wealthy country in the history of man, producing the most advanced technology and medicine ever conceived. A single country with a measly 300 million population controls ~50% of the global economy (technically all of it, if the US collapsed the entire world would plunge into economic depression) and has over 7 billion people under its boot it terms of military strength. We decide how the entire globe is ran.

Government should only be in charge of infrastructure, legislation/law enforcement, and the defense of its people. We are the closest thing to this and we are literally invincible. The only reason we aren't as powerful as we could be is because of stupid faggots in the left have been in charge the past 8 years and have been trying to fuck everything up longer than that.

All forms and off shoots of socialism, communism, whatever is shit and should be left to collapse on its own.

NatSoc is shit and only got a decent foothold because of war production and artificial government economic boosting.

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>>60021905
>dat pic
OP posts at - nazi flag
14:17
Second post -nazi flag
14:18
Third post -nazi flag
14:20

I know you are smarter than this Canada

>>60022293

sure thing goy. it was economically left because it was protectionist. the average german worker and business owner had near complete economic freedom. economic freedom that never would have been achieved without hitlers massive public works programs and policies that put the german economy first. it really wasn't that much different from our economic system around the same period.

but i know what you're going to tell me, greed is good, and the only thing that matters is the bottom line.
take your free trade and shove it up your ass

>>60022293
>the only reason we aren't as powerful as we could be is because of stupid faggots in the left have been in charge the past 8 years
>past 8 years

confirmed for having no grasp on recent american history or politics.

>>60021558
You're a fool if you think there's any consistent ideology behind nazism. The Nazi party was a patchwork of factions held together by Hitler. Yes, he had mass support among the unemployed but the unions hated him. War veterans liked him but the upper military aristocracy despised him. He promised to end industrial capitalism yet when push came to shove he was put in power by rich industrialists.

The only thing Hitler really ever cared about was foreign policy. On other issues he was completely flexible.

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>>60022293
>Fucking Obama caused the collapse of 2008 HURDUR
Too bad Greenspan went before Congress and said he was wrong, after the crash. The same Greenspan who was a disciple of Ayn Rand.

>>60022970
>You're a fool if you think there's any consistent ideology behind nazism

there was, it's called race and country.

>the upper military aristocracy despised him
don't know what that has to do with the ideology

>He promised to end industrial capitalism yet when push came to shove he was put in power by rich industrialists.

he did a classic judo move. using your opponents weight to your benefit. i see nothing wrong with that, it was actually quite brilliant.

>The only thing Hitler really ever cared about was foreign policy

toppest kek

>>60022293
you know what im tired of?
people who dont understand government no are willing to accept reality. demanding to live in the past. instead of adapting.

The lefts islamophilia helped create Trump. Thanks PC Libtards.

>>60013443
truth is if they didn't talk about Trump no one would watch them

>>60023353
>Bangladesh
>most likely a Muslim

>>60013443
you mean aggressively alienating moderates and centrists with a decade or more of MUH RACISM MUH NAZIS has consequences?

>>60023219
>it's called race and country.
Beyond generic jew-hating, Hitler didn't care much about race - hence all the honorary Aryan bullshit. Race was Himmler's domain. Country? Everyone is in favor of that, it's just more typical vagueness.

>he did a classic judo move. using your opponents weight to your benefit.
Except he wasn't against them. He abolished unions as time went along and only strengthened the rich industrialists.

Believe what you want, but the facts are against you

>>60013443
they're not entirely wrong.

>"Trump himself is too stupid and too incoherent to have any kind of consistent political views about anything beyond hating minorities and immigrant"

Liberals always go for the player and never the ball

>>60013443
>call your opponents racists and nazis for years
>they quietly put up with it and try to assert their arguments anyway
>flat out refuse to listen to them on the grounds of them being racist
>get so fed up with your shit that they just stop trying to dodge around accusations of racism and start saying shit to piss you off
>turns out it's the only kind of shit you want to hear from them
>give them lots of attention for it
>now they elect a leader who pretty much says whatever he wants and all your ammunition falls flat on him

Sheeeiiit

>>60013443
>trump is stupid

Website discarded as low energy.

>wanting the U.S to be the best is possibly can be
>hideous movement

Let that sink in for a moment.

>>60023602
>Hitler didn't care much about race

Wrote entire chapters on it.

just stop m8

>>60019438
That would be more accurate if the jews didn't distort political will by owning the lugenpresse.

>>60016536
>swinging pendulum. many in the "alt-right" wish to monitor and control language/acts just as much that if a right wing did surge in popularity again the left would once more become the corner of freedom, free speech, tolerance etc. while conservatives go back to leading lynch mobs. this in turn would allow someone like bernie sanders to be seen as a prophet of peace - something like that.

Bingo. The best bit is when that pendulum swings, the sociopaths that choreograph the two minutes of hate for the left will suddenly become ardent fascists. The people that really cause harm in all of this are aligned to whichever political ideology which allows them to torture people and receive admiration for doing so.

>>60024210
I know I will
>implying the left and shit skins don't deserve to be put back into their place.
>implying their practices did not create sociopaths that otherwise would be productive citizens in a healthy society.

>>60018238
>by joshua goldberg
oy vey

>>60013443
good point. the left kept sending out mongols to fight against scholars. theres no other way to go about this now.

good thing is the leftist slanders and slurs are so tired and overused they have little effect anymore

>>60016536
The censorship right wingers were never anything along the lines of Trump etc., they were deranged religious fundamentalists -- the same kind of people who stand in the way of Trump's victory in Iowa.

>>60024477
>deranged religious fundamentalists
yawn

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>>60020308
He's right you know. He's a political moderate.

>>60024288

Most of the left, and the arabs, are just useful idiots serving a purpose for other interests. Actually holding serious resentment for them is a waste of time - they do what they think is socially acceptable amongst their peers.

They're just as happy to be national socialists in the fourth reich as they are to house a horde of 35 year old ex-FSA soldiers and tweet about progressive causes.

>>60013443
>bargaining
>acceptance

>>60013443
PC created Donald Trump, people was just tired of being censored and white people just got tired of being treated like a racist faggot on default because people is so easy to offend nowadays.

Trump comes by and says, fuck it. and embodies all that liberal media & co were repressing. Every single person tired of that shit started rallying trump. In a way Trump is populist too. but he's got nothing on faggots like Bernie Sanders.


most specifically I'd dare to say trump was fuelled not only by that but by Obama's executive action on immigration.
The article linked is kinda right there.

>>60024615
>Jeb Bush is more extreme than center of the isle Trump
Ok
How bouts a source

>>60024873
A progressive tax plan is by nature more liberal than other candidates proposed flat tax, for one.

>>60024615
>hernie is 8.7
you can get more liberal than him?
Is he gonna have to ban sexy women in anime and games to get a 10?

>>60024873
Source of pic

https://www.crowdpac.com/elections/2016-presidential-election

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/18/upshot/donald-trump-moderate-republican.html?_r=0

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/12/16/donald-trump-is-a-textbook-example-of-an-ideological-moderate/

>>60025034
Don't we already have a progressive tax plan

>>60016240
>My country's brand of leftist is more radical than yours
Yeah we know that
But we aren't talking about Spanish or Euro politics in general you dump cock sucker

>>60021312
Former liberal here.

After the last 3 years of witnessing the descent into outright lunacy from the left, with "Islamophobe!" being thrown around after the Paris attack being my proverbial last straw, I'm four-square for Trump and hope to God that he wins.

>>60016903
>>60018545
>>60018739
We could always clone Hitler....

>>60019721
Compared to Clinton and Bernie, Trump ISa moderate.

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>>60013443
>They, more than anyone else, created Donald Trump’s candidacy and the increasingly hideous movement he now leads.
>complains about people attacking the political right rather than debating them creating the new Augustus
>continues to do exactly the same thing

>>60017468

^

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>>60025210
>Make Mexico build a wall with their own money
>Thinks Global warming is a hoax
>Moved from pro-choice to pro-life and wants to do away with late term abortion.
>Self proclaimed best friend of Israel
>Opposed to gun control
>Get rid of Obamacare
>complete ban on Muslims entering the United States
>reducing the corporate tax rate
>Trump opposes legalizing recreational marijuana
^Moderate.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2016#Domestic_political_positions


https://www.crowdpac.com/elections/2016-presidential-election
Survey based on 1k Trump donations, compared to 42k Jeb donations, 72k Perry, 20k Cruz


Op-eds - Opinion Pieces
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/18/upshot/donald-trump-moderate-republican.html?_r=0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/12/16/donald-trump-is-a-textbook-example-of-an-ideological-moderate/


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They're waking up

>>60022398
Hello newfag.

Remember when you could choose your own flag on /pol/, and people were using all sorts of shit? Obviously not.

>>60026109
Now do the list for Hillary or Bernie lol

trump is a moderate compared to how extreme left they are m8 sorry

>>60013443
>>By assailing sensible conservatives as sexists, racists and imbeciles, they paved the way for a jack-ass who embodies their worst fears.

I'm amazed. This is what a lot of (former) lefties have been saying. A lot of people on /pol/ were driven out of being on the left by the utter idiots that make up the active and vocal part of it.

Only now do people dare publish the bleeding obvious in lefty mags. They had to be losing big before they paid any attention to the venomous SJW/marxist loony fringe ruling the ideology for decades.

You should have paid attention when it mattered.

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>>60013443
No, it's the weakness of the right and Cuckservatives like the author of that article that required him to step in.

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>>60013443

>>60024148
>Wrote entire chapters on it.
Yes.
>"Pride in one's own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them." - Adolf Hitler.

>>60026185
>if Trump wins I'll move my black ass to the whitest African country

>>60026109
to leftists, the center of the political spectrum is those who adhere to the PC media narrative

in essence, the center to the left is the mid-left in reality

>>60020403
The average European has been educated to use its intellectual faculty against his own survival. Self hatred and racial replacement is the foundations of modern European moral.

>>60026391
Yes I don't see how your own post does not leave you BTFO

>Pride in one's own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment.

Hitler again thought race was important enough to write entire chapters on it and defending others pride in ones race.

>>60021135
> crypto-khazar detected

oy vey, Chaïm.

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>>60026255
>believing that people could read OP's entire post and then pound out a response and pic out a picture in a few minutes, and also use the same flag when there were many to chose from.
After awhile I guess you can't smell the petrol fumes anymore, can you?

>>60013443

Hindsight is 20/20 libbys.

>>60026266
Not my job buckaroo, and why would you not compare him to other republicans

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>>60013443
BUILD
WALL
NOW

>>60026274
>b-but muh winning side of history :(

>>60013443
Daily reminder that Trump is being supported out of pure spite towards the left and their elitist bullshit.

MY GOD THIS TRUMP

GOD BLESS HIM

BUILD WALL

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

FUCK ALL THE SJWS.... WE WERE PATIENT WITH YOUR DUMB ASSES SINCE THE 60s

>>60026541
>hiding in a sea of vagueness

>>60025641
Actual liberal here.
Trump is a champion of free speech and a breddy cool guy who doesn't afraid of political correctness.

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>>60026704
>but he's a moderate they say

>>60026274

It's a moment when the Right says "So what?" - that's the pivotal time when it starts to end for the Leftist traitors. You can call us all the names you want, we'll still crush you into dust.

>>60026592
How, exactly, does it leave _me_ btfo, anon?

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>>60013443

well you are right

the sjws and libcucks have pushed for so much degeneracy we will turn to anyone who will stand against it

a man has rose to the task.

his name is donald j trump..the savior of the west

>>60013443
>Trump himself is too stupid and too incoherent to have any kind of consistent political views about anything beyond hating minorities and immigrants.

Still a load of crap. The man with 150+ IQ and videos of him stating the same things 25+ years ago is not stupid and inconsistent.

All in all this shows they still have no coherent argument and will continue to exacerbate the problem they just realized they created by calling the man a racist.

>>60026657
Because I am asserting a broader point you seem to not be interested in refuting lol

When comparing without bias Bernie or Hillary versus accepted moderate liberal past and present examples it can be seen ALL republican candidates can be seen as moderate compared to past an present extreme right examples.

in essence if trump is not a moderate then Hillary and Bernie are even MORE extreme in their own base leaving trump more moderate in relation

>>60013443
they are right.
the only reason why I even have a dog in this fight is because all those leftiest elites have infected my hobbies and turned it into a sjw propaganda tool.

The only way I see that shit stopping anytime soon is if trump wins the presidency and liberals realize that people have becoming fucking tired of feminism and social justice ruining anything fun

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>>60026616
>Thinking the nazi flag is unpopular on /pol/
>thinking it would take tens of minutes to type out a response

>>60013443
Read it. Next level cultural marxist propaganda.

Cliff notes- Trump has them scared shitless and they want to go back to the days of good cop/bad cop controlled establishment candidates... All the while still shit talking and putting down the non-SJW silent majority.

Their day is coming. Soon :)

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>>60026902
>Their day is coming. Soon :)

It was all a matter of perspective... ;^D

>>60026817
>Because I am asserting a broader point you seem to not be interested in refuting lol
>stating the obvious that Trump is right of the Democrats


>>60026844
>Refuting one point out of my 3
Well bravo
Yes it was used a lot but so were others, like the pirate and the confederate along with all the other options

>>60013443
Oh wow, the left is self aware... that's crazy. I only hope this is Frankenstein, retold. Let the monster kill the scientist.

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>>60027048
>literally a golden post

>>60018238
Wait a second, is that THE Joshua Goldberg?

>>60026829
Trump is going to win by a wide, wide margin... and then balance will be returned to the force. God bless that crazy bastard.

>>60027048
oy vey gevalt we turned up the cultural marxism heat a bit too much schlomo

>>60027129

i noticed it in the last year...like they were rushing for it...it really got stepped up a few notches and i think it pissed people off

>>60026979
Stating that trump is more moderate in the field of the right versus how extreme Bernie and Hillary is in the field of the left.

again m8 being a moderate on the right has now become left as the extreme right is not represented like it is with Bernie especially sorry.

>>60027048
:)

>>60026185
anybody got the tweet of FilthyFrank saying more or less the same?

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>>60026844
>>thinking it would take tens of minutes to type out a response
See it on the front page
read the title
click it
Load it
Read it
Contemplate it
Maybe click on the provided sources
Type out a response
Find my red pill picture on my one of many crap image folders
do the captcha
send it

---

Yes I think that would take more than 3 minutes

>>60026979
>>Refuting one point out of my 3
Actually, "da jooz" is a popular subject,and not all of us read at a primary school reading level.
Attaching a pic is also easy, especially if it is one you use regularly, or have a well-ordered filing system.

If I was just following this thread, my responses would be faster still.

You lack commonsense, anon.

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>>60013443
>the pestilence that is the Trump campaign is the result of a conglomeration of political, academic, media, and cultural elites who for decades have tried to act as the arbiters of acceptable public debate and shut down any political expression from Americans with whom they disagree

Is this an admission that they are what they hate most?

>>60017468
this

>>60017468
My god it's HAPPENING

Go Trump go

>>60027263
...and that is why we now have thread unique ID's.
To stop the kind of conspiracy crap you're using.

What next, are you going to claim JIDF is a meme?

>>60022532
Thats the reason of gemanys success today Mercedes, VW, Porsche, Bayer ... are all nazi companies even Fanta is a nazi invention. Witout hitler Austria + Germany would be the same economic shithole like poland or greece

>>60024873
Trump is more liberal on economic policy and gay marriage. He may still even support affirmative action. Hence the center position.

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>>60026185
>>60027215
found it

>>60027190
>again m8 being a moderate on the right has now become left as the extreme right is not represented like it is with Bernie especially sorry.
but he's not moderate, but you can keep repeating it until it comes true

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>>60017468

I've told people for years that the left wants whites to be painted as some kind of monster. They don't understand that we are more than willing and capable of being that monster.

They just have to keep pushing the matter and it will happen faster than they can blink. Marginalize the whites and you will end up with another reich, it's that simple. We'll have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

>>60013443
Well no shit sherlock.
Maybe if they had been more gradual they could have subverted the populace eventually, but all the hardcore lefty censorship, religious dogma and shouting in the past few years has pushed any centrists or moderate lefties to the right and forced them to go for Trump.

>>60027183
Yep, I noticed that too.

>>60027404
>gay marriage.
Supreme court made their ruling and he said he would rather the states decide. But since it's the supreme court he knows there is nothing to be done there so he just accepts it.

>>60027424

papa franku you legend haha

>>60027385
>To stop the kind of conspiracy crap you're using.
OPs being faggots is nothing new.

>>60027605
Op is often a faggot, but assuming samefagging with no ID's just because of the same flag?

Oh, shit I answered you so quickly, I must be samefagging!

>>60018172
Because that is the coin these morons trade in... Needing to feel better than everyone because they know they have nothing to offer but criticism.

Everyone should watch this if they haven't...

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8toYN1cPGgA

>>60027673
>just because of the same flag?
That was one point, not my only point

>>60026109
>make mexico build a wall with their own money
stronger border controls are not an inherently conservative policy, trump's eccentric approach does not change that
see: bernie sanders
>thinks global warming is a hoax
thinks anthropogenic climate change is a hoax, which is an entirely valid position from a scientific perspective if not a political one. also not inherently conservative
>best friend of israel
not inherently conservative, libs are currently pussyfooting around the issue because they can get good boy points for saying palestine dindu nuffin but know that they're fucked if they openly denounce israel
>opposed to gun control
gun control is a authoritarian policy not a conservative one
>get rid of obamacare
and replace it with trumpcare, making him no further left or right than obama on healthcare
>complete ban on muslims entering us
i wonder if Clinton would be accused of being 'right wing' if she proposed a ban on straight white men entering the us
>reducing corporate tax rate
good policy desu, unfortunately he's not proposing comparable tax cuts across the board
>opposes legalisation of marijuana
DUDE WEED LMAO

>sources include wikipedia, an infograph and opinion pieces from nyt and wapo
fucking lel

>>60027752
...and that the posts happened 2 minutes apart?

>1st response is short, and posted 2 min after.

>2nd response is slightly longer, and posted 4 min after, and includes a meme image.

Not to mention that threads about jews get very high post counts very quickly on /pol/.

Not to mention that you can switch to legacy captcha, which is just punching in 3 to 5 numbers.

I miss old /pol/ for these reasons. Less visitors from /b/.

>Nothing to show the two anons looked at the links like you claimed.

>>60013443

More importantly: will the left, collectively, accept that this is a natural consequence of their actions and refrain from doing so in the future? Will even their intellectual leaders do so? If conservatives and libertarians withdraw support for Trump and others like him, will we enter a new golden age of free speech and harmony without baseless accusations of various isms and phobias?

Or will the left say, "Ha, you dumb racists hicks fell for it!" and double down?

What does experience teach you?

Rhetorical questions. The author of OP's link is an exception. Most of the left thinks Trump's rise is a product of a secret, greater evil that conservatives have been hiding this whole time. Back down now, and in the next election Trump will be used as rhetorical bludgeon once again. Conservative response will be anemic because Trump failed after we backed down, killing off our own enthusiasm. Understand this - Trump is not a replayable card. We either ride this out to the end, fight PC bullshit and change the overton window, or accept at least another decade of leftist dominance.

Who do you trust more to back off when their opponent is beaten: conservatives, or liberals?

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>>60013443
>send article to mom
>he responded with a dismissive accusation
"I bet you're voting for Trump"
>no substantive argument, just accusatory attacks
>point out that she is doing exactly what the article is talking about
>gets angry, makes an excuse about having a headache

>>60027728

cheers for that...was epic

>>60027433
He is a moderate due to the fact both terms are subjective m8

>>60028042
>send article to mom
>he
?

either way your mom sounds like an idiot

turn things around and play the emotional game on her.

>>60028026

How do you respond to the claim that Trump's rise is just about racism and xenophobia - the same sentiments the GOP has been fanning forever?

>>60013443
but trump is on the left

>>60028042
Sounds just like mine

>>60028223
you don't just double down and call them outraged liberals and that you hope Trump sentences Hillary to prison for the Benghazi affair.

They wanted total war now they have got one.

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Wow the daily beast actually comes out with a reasonable article about how overbearing political correctness is unhealthy to political discourse? I think it might be the sterotypes are getting to them (again) , a week ago I was mocking a sjw and you could tell my jabs were getting to her.

Maybe the secret to defeating the left is simply to keep shaming them before they can properly take root under a different name.

>>60017468
Whoever said that is right and unfortunately the ism rhetoric is only going to be louder the closer to the day of the presidential election. If people thought it's been crazy and obnoxious so far wait till the run-off.

>>60013443
They mean die juden right?

>>60027424
Isn't he Austalian? He's probably joking

>>60027965
He literally told the Jews to fuck off, to their faces... You can't classify Trump. He's on some next level shit... And he's awoken America out of its slumber.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkCtipt6kqU

Honestly...this is crazy shit calling them out in public for controlling their puppets on a string etc.

His power level is off the charts.

>>60028223

By telling you that "the same sentiments the GOP has been fanning forever" is a patently false statement intended to silence and shame my side, and possibly a prelude to summoning a twitter mob to mass-email my boss and try to get me fired.

The GOP freed the slaves, championed black rights during reconstruction, and was the driving legislative force of the civil rights movement. Meanwhile the democrats had the KKK. So no, the GOP has not been fanning those flames forever. But let's assume history starts in 1992, with the exception that I buy into the "everyone changed parties" canard that leftists pull out so they can claim that current, living members of the GOP are responsible for the actions of long-dead members of the democratic party. So somehow that guilt exists now even though history starts in 1992.

That being the case, why are the leftist tactics in that time justified? Why is it okay to mass-email employers of strangers to get them fired for a tweet? Why assume racism when someone is explicitly arguing economics about mass illegal immigration? Why are the SJW "we need some muscle here" tactics okay? They're not, and Trump tried to run for president several times before with little traction. The GOP put forward candidates largely moderate on immigration, and the social justice tactics only increased. Romney was not xenophobic, but the accusations were there. Same with McCain. Same with G. W. Bush. Shit gets worse every year, and we're tired of it.

>>60028292
>they wanted war

EXACTLY. Don't let articles like this fool you, everyone. A LONG way to go and they will do whatever they can do to take Trump down.

If Hillary or Bernie win the presidency... It's OVER. ALL viewpoints of sanity will have their backs broken

>>60017109

Why DO we "need" to be with non-whites?

I haven't encountered a compelling argument to date.

>>60013443

>'Journalist' makes excuses for the early political correctness
>Journalist deems Thrumps view on Putin generically 'un-American'
>Journalist states that 'Liberals won Americas cultural war' as they are loosing it flat on their fucking faces
>Journalist proclaims that liberal name calling is a problem and proceeds to pressent no argument against Trump not based on pure namecalling
>'Trump’s staying power, however, is rooted in the fact that his supporters are not fighting for any particular political outcome - Build Wall you incoherrent shit

The overall point is not entirely wrong though. But it is wishfull thinking to denounce Trumps political platform. Isolationism has worked many times in America. So it seems kind of pathetic to have this 'Ex-Conservative' practically denounsing Trump with every shitlord tactic he just described.

5/0, did make me feel dirty for clicking their link.

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>>60013443
>Writing this about Trump: "Exhibit A: his creepy, un-American attachment to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin".
>creepy, un-American attachment because you don´t criticize Putin´s comment about you being "very colourful and talented man"?

He doesn´t even realize he is part of the P.C Police described in his article.

>>60026109
Get this through your thick skull, immigration control is not inherently conservative. You could have the biggest commie shithole country in existence and still be anti-immigration.

>you try to stump the Trump
>you inevitably fail
>all of the energy you put into stumping Trump instead gets absorbed by Trump
>he only grows stronger and more impervious to stumpings the more you try to stump him
When will liberals ever learn?

>>60029193
Yep. They are that fucked in the head.

>>60029193

He does. He just hopes that offering a partly appology for past crimes might reduce the sentences handed out when him and his lot are sentenced to build wall camp this December. Like the deluded Wehrmach officers who fought there would be any negotiation as late as 1944. Total war means totl war bitch. You called it, you earned it.

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>As much as Republicans point out the money he gave to Hillary Clinton, for example, the fact is that Trump would have given money to Yuri Andropov if he thought there was a photo op in it. (Exhibit A: his creepy, un-American attachment to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.)

LE PUTIN IS A BAD GUY MEME

Why do people forget that the wall fell over 20 years ago?

>>60029196
>You could have the biggest commie shithole country in existence and still be anti-immigration.
This.

The minimum punishment for entering the country illegally in the USSR was 20 years forced labour in Siberia.

Nothing anyone in the West is pushing for even comes close.

>>60029642
while at the same time feeling the bern

>>60029401
>When will liberals ever learn?
Some of them will, except by the point they'd learned we'd call them conservatives anyway.

>>60013443

>filed bakruptcy
>says the death of america is in part from offshoring and outsourcing jobs
>outsources jobs
>"but he has to do it to stay competitive"
>oh so since everyone else is unpatriotic and non-protectionist, it's okay for him to be the same and not care about domestic jobs
>"did you know he cares about domestic jobs?"
>de facto cares about his own interests over the sovereignty of a nation (as evidenced by the wind mill/Casino fiasco with the Scottish government)
>this very fact is blatantly glossed over
>puts tons of people out of their jobs in the 80s from straight up not paying contractors for construction jobs

I'm not concluded yet whether or not the trump threads are made by shills, or by people that are of the same level of intellect of college students that are simply contrarion and don't want to vote liberal like all of their frat friends.

>>60016724
this is exactly what will happen and also exactly why Hillary should win

So they're saying Trump is a physical manifestation of meme magic? A sort of, Meme Homunculus?

>>60026387
Yep

I hope everyone see the Jews are still jewing... Not conceding.

DONT TAKE THE BOOT OF THEIR THROATS UNTIL TRUMP IS IN OFFICE

DONT LET UP

TRUMP
R
U
M
P

>>60029196
>>60029740
All of these

And people wondering why back in the Cold War Europe did not have refugees from Middle east.
Of course there is none, because USSR would shoot them if them tried to enter any of the Balkan states with or without papers.

>>60029900
Well, if he runs in 2020, after 4 years of Clinton mismanagement, he'll have a free hand to undo all the social ills she is going to create.

Interresting to see a news portal finally writing what i have been posting for months now.

Yes the rampant pc culture has created trumps success.

If everything is racist then nothing is. Deal with it leftards.

>>60029861

>The legal system favors outsourcing. You cannot change it from within. He aims to change it from above then. Problem solved.

Your argument is on par with blaming officers for the structural framework decided by generals. You dont even made it to college-tier.

Do you have another argument, or do you accept defeat?

>>60029023
Bravo

>>60014420
It is. It's not liberal journalists, its liberalism. Liberal journalists love to think they're part of the social engineering going on but they're just pawns and serve higher interests.

This is basically liberal journalists saying "We're important, we can make people think whatever they want!" and self-congratulating. It's pretty pathetic but I would say there are definitely people who fall for their tricks.

>>60023219
>don't know what that has to do with the ideology

Then you fail to understand that Nazi Germany was, compared to the likes of Evola or Ernst Junger, quite progressive. What you see in these people is the European Aristocrat dissatisfied with the less traditional aspects of the ideology. Hence why so many reactionaries from the time were either against or only mildly in favour of Hitler.

I do believe this is them doing their backwards form of "acceptance".

>>60028330
I really don't look forward to when they start revving up their ism engines. Its going to be a shit storm and its going to take a lot of innocent peoples life styles with it.

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>>60029610
>This

That nigga hedging his bets

>>60028223
You don't. Let the election numbers speak for themselves. The left have created a caricature of Trump supporters as angry racist old white men who are a shrinking minority. When they lose and the crosstabs come out showing how broad Trump's support was, it will destroy their credibility. Politicians on the left will learn the hard way that listening to SJWs leads to losing elections. The blowback within the party will result in a marginalizing of the identity politics cult. That however might take more than one bad election for them to accomplish.

>>60029401
Hail Lord Emperor!

>>60030194
it will be someone much "worse" than Trump

>>60028026
>Trump is not a replayable card. We either ride this out to the end, fight PC bullshit and change the overton window, or accept at least another decade of leftist dominance.

Dont be so sure. A failure of trump and 4 years of a democrat president? Imagine how crazy this shit can get. And unless he croaks whats stopping him from trying again and again until they learn?

Is it just me or shouldn't journalism be as apolitical as possible and strive to hit the truth from different perspectives?

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>>60017468
IT BEGINS.

>>60029149
He was cushioning the article with anti Trumpisms to soften the blow to the liberals he was criticizing. It was similar to saying "I'm not a racist but..." with Trump supporter in place of racist. Leftists would have stopped reading immediately if there wasn't bits of anti Trump red meat smeared all over the article to keep them interested.

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>>60029861
Tired of the bullshit and literally leaving it all behind to wrangle it back into function.

The wealthy normally have hyper-dysfunctional children who can't make any decisions for themselves so they can't leave their business behind to enter the public sector. THere is no one to trust.

Trump kids are more than capable of handling his business while he takes on this role. That says more to me than anything.

>>60031132
Zombie Hitler??? :^D

>>60031228
Lol, even the slightest semblance of journalism vaporized long ago. Nothing but pure propaganda now exists... outside of the "far right racist conspiracy" alternative media.

>>60013443
apparently, trump supporters don't support any of trumps positions, we just want someone to stand up to PC, kek

>>60031228
The internet destroyed the economic model for non-biased fact based journalism while at the same time creating one for extremely biased, partisan based clickbait journalism. Fact is, journalism never really was non-biased but there was at least an attempt to keep things even. Now... you just have to read many sources and try to piece together the truth from combining them.

>>60018172
Because this is what it looks like when we raise a generation without teaching them to be respectful of their betters.

Everyone is equal under the law, but some people seem to think this means no-one should be better than anyone else.

>>60028026
Exactly. DONT LIFT THE BOOT OFF THEIR THROATS UNTIL TRUMP IS IN OFFICE

OP AUTHOR IS TRYING TO JEW YOU

>>60022532
>the average german worker and business owner had near complete economic freedom.

Lie.

German business owners had to get permission from 4 different levels of government to even change a price of a good.

Stop lying commie scum.

>>60031586

That's what the Libs like the article writer wish was true.

The scarier fact is we actually do want him to build a wall and keep migrants out. We are not just tired of being silenced, we want policy as well. And we don't give a shit whose feelings it hurts.

>>60031642
>The internet destroyed the economic model for non-biased fact based journalism

ROFL

>attempt to keep things even

You're full of shit

>>60029861
>I'm not concluded yet whether or not the trump threads are made by shills, or by people that are of the same level of intellect of college students that are simply contrarion and don't want to vote liberal like all of their frat friends.

If Trump played ball the way he wanted to he would be broke and irrelevant right now.

The fact that his companies had to outsource is a problem the policymakers created, not the corporations. Learn some shit in your life before you start opening your mouth.

>>60031925
>I'M A TEENAGER AND WES NOT EVEN BORN IN THE 70'S, NOR HAVE I READ ANY HISTORY; THE POST

>>60031642
Eh, American TV and print journalism has been left as fuck since at least the mid-60s.

Hell, look at American TV programming in the "conservative" 70s... Non-stop multiculturalism, gay acceptence, white males as dopes, trashing of traditional values etc.

Cultural marxism is a real thing people... A legit cohesive movement... Realize it and fight it. Time is running out. It's gone on too long and America is on her knees. Fight!

>>60024615

This is what infuriates me beyond belief. Moderate people, my parents included, dislike Trump because the media tells them to, when his policies are much closer to theirs than Hillary's.

I have a friend who's passionately anti-war, but says he'd vote Hillary instead of Trump if he were an American. Either these people don't believe what they say, or somehow they believe that fucking up the country with illegal immigrants etc. is more important than not murdering people minding their own business halfway across the world.

>>60025071

Compared to assholes like Martin O'Malley he's Charlton Heston when it comes to guns (because he comes from Vermont and not a major city) and he gives some lip service to immigration restriction to protect the American worker.

I dislike him intensely, but I'd rather see him in office than Hillary or an establishment Republican like Bush or Rubio.

Actually my power rankings are something like this

>TRUMP
>cosmic power gap
>Rand Paul
>Ted Cruz as he presents himself in his campaign
>Jim Webb
>Bernie Sanders (and hope he fucks up badly enough)
>power gap in which all hope is lost
>Hillary (if we lose I want us to know that we lost)
>any establishment Republican

>we're sorry s̶h̶i̶t̶l̶o̶r̶d̶s̶ dear conservatives, we didn't mean to run a witch hunt against you for al those years, j-just please don't vote Trump!

Too late now fags.

>>60028445

He lives in Boston mang

>>60016724
Hillary won't push an SJW agenda. She's a neocon who's only interest is cementing her legacy by getting us into yet another war. She's bad news, but not for the reasons /pol/ thinks she is.

>>60032920
>Hillary won't push an SJW agenda
she already is, you stupid motherfucker

Im still not convinced hes fit run anything, hes a fucking caricature of what everyone wants to see, hes a actor in politics, politics the game of acting. I can agree with some of his policies. But this facade hes putting as the next savior is worrying as everyone buys into it. Prove to me /pol/ this guy is FIT to run a country.
Hows his stance on globalization?
Is he a neo-liberalism supporter? (The things that have destroyed our middle class)
Im home grown US OF A BABY, but my parents are from mexico, my father has already been deported im afriad hell send the gustappo after my mom next.

And seriously? The Wall? What a great way to show companies that across that border(which will be easy for americans to cross) is a ton of cheap as fuck labor.

I hope everyone here loves their service industry job cause thats all you'll have.

Think of it this way. These guys have to churn out ridiculous articles every day. And nothing is easier than writing about yourself. That's all this is: A circle jerk.

>>60025712
yeah if you believe that that skull fragment the Russians have locked away in the Kremlin is actually Hitler's

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>>60032087
I was alive in the 70s. Gays were still mocked on tv and in movies. Same with the 80s. But you're correct about the rest.

>>60031925
Do you know how stupid you sound. You basically just said the Earth is flat and the sun rises in the west. History didn't start the day mommy bought you an iPhone.

>>60026109
The brit already answered most of it, but two issues you're missing are dudeweed and abortion.

On the first, he thinks it should be up to the state if it's greenlit for recreational use, while medicinal marijuana is A-OK.

For the second, he doesn't care.

Also obamacare is dogshit and needs reworking. It doesn't matter if an idea is good or bad, what matters is implementation. Trump's very careful not to piss off republicans, but in every rally he states he'll remove obamacare and replace it with expanded medicare.

>>60034178
Well, cloning could prove it one way or the other, now wouldn't it? ;^)

>>60033008
underrated.

>>60013443
>>By assailing sensible conservatives as sexists, racists and imbeciles, they paved the way for a jack-ass who embodies their worst fears.
yet they're referring to a man who has never said anything inherently sexist or racist.

>the Trump campaign is the result of a conglomeration of political, academic, media, and cultural elites who for decades have tried to act as the arbiters of acceptable public debate and shut down any political expression from Americans with whom they disagree.
yet they continue to try to act as the arbiters of acceptable public debate and shut down any political expression from Americans with whom they disagree

i don't think trump is the problem anyway you slice it.

>>60013443
also this is step 3, bargaining.
>l-look guys, we won't call you sexists and racists anymore, just don't get trump elected!

>>60035660
good point

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>>60022293
Let's make this country great again.

>remove leftists