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Post your favourite fighter jet, /pol/.

>Su-30SM
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SR91 Aurora
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mig 15
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>>60003014

My favorite fighter? But there are so many to choose from? How could I possibly pick just 1?
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>>60003472
How is it shitposting? I didn't say it was superior, i just like the look of it.
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>>60003472
How is that shitposting? The Su-30SM is a phenomenal fighter.
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>>60003421
Does that even exist? I thought it was a myth.
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F-22 Raptor.

Yes there is a pic of it in my post, but it's too stealthy for you to see it.
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>>60003617
Likely does but still classified. Not a fighter either.
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>>60003014
When I look at the shapes of these airplanes it just feels like they're making it up, like throw random geometrical shit everywhere. Yet this is cutting edge technology that involves sophisticated knowledge on turbulence and aerodynamics and whatever. They just look like fucking toys/
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>>60003589

>The Su-30SM is a phenomenal fighter.
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>>60003786
happy ?
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>>60003617
it exists

it can reach any part of the world in less than 2 hours

it docks in Low Orbit stations

>WAIT A MINUTE, do Low Orbit space stations exists?

yes, they are a must, because the SR91 expends 90% of its fuel on take off, refueling is a must

>But why isn't it refueling from an Hercules like aircraft

because of speed, it simply can't, it most be done so in Low Orbit

It can also take off Satelites using a special kind of Air to Space missiles
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>>60003786

Not Every aircraft has to follow the same airframe design regime from the 1950s and 60s you know...
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>>60003910
Good thing there wasn't a crowd there.
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>>60003617
also, its "normal" speed its mach 8.8
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>>60004215
Faster than the Auroa?
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>>60003910
>>60004164
Just because there's been accidents with a particular model of plane doesn't mean it's automatically garbage.
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>>60003910
Not the SM variant.
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>>60004351

It's a cool video and I post it whenever applicable.
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>>60003927
Looks like a giant metal dick wearing a jetpack
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>>60004338
>SR91 Aurora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P7ssFbqjbY
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>>60004423
Even then, it's obvious the pilot fucked up, not the plane.
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>>60004351
Nah senpai, I prefer Russian jets because they look the bomb. Also the F22 can't even deploy to Syria because the Russians set up a 25 dollar radar system in the area and the F35 is trying to accomplish what the Harrier did decades ago.

Also Eurofighter Typhoon < anything else.
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easy
f-22 raptor.
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>>60004531

Fine, if you need videos of American stuff crashing, you could have just asked.
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Tupolev tu 160 , i know it s a bomber but fuck off
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>>60004690
I didn't want anything.

Either way, it's good that the pilot made it out of there.
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>>60004784
Damn Juan, i wasn't going to complain.

The 160 is cool, it boggles the mind at times something that big can go as fast as it can.
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I don't know much about fighter jets or if the Rafale is even good, but I've always loved the fuck out of how it looks.
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>>60005178
I keep forgetting it's carrier capable, it's a good looking plane.

Your country should invest in these if you back out of buying the F-35.
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>>60004922

that isn't the Mexican flag m8
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>>60005838
Oh shit, you're right.

Still, Luigi should calm down.
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>>60005838

>Being this new
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>>60006092
u wot m8
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F-35 of course.
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>>60006246

I'm sorry anon.
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>>60005495
I think we already backed out from buying the F-35, and how capable of a fighter is the Rafale? Because it looks gorgeous, I think it's fairly fast, too.
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>>60006359

m8
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Step the fuck aside bitches.
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a mig or something i dunno
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>>60003560
THIS
BUMP
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>>60006383
I remember reading about a exercise where they simulated a dogfight between 6 French Rafales and 6 USAF F-16s.

It said the Rafales racked up a 3:1 kill ratio against the F-16s.
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>>60006463
>How to die a painful airborne death: The Jet
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>>60006463
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>>60003910

>Just drift bro.
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>>60006556
>BUMP
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>>60006616
True story bro!!!
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SU-35. Best avionics in the world.
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>>60006648
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>>60006693
I'm not exactly sure about it but it did say that the Rafales and the French pilots out performed the F-16s.
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>>60003969
How do they get the fuel to the LEO refueling station?
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>Ctrl+F
>No F-14 Tomcat
I'm fucking ashamed of you unamerican faggots.
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I know it's not a fighter jet, but why are the Americans trying to scrap this beauty? Can't think of many aircraft that boost the morale of ground troops as well as is it does.
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>>60006741
edit: wrong pic
burned up phantom in china from viet nam conflict
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>>60006659

Oh come on, that video is clearly sped up.

>>60006789

see

>>60003560
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>>60006726
Really? I knew Flankers had agility in the bag but i thought that the F-22 or F-35 would be better when it came to avionics.
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>>60006675
CHECK SIX
BUMP
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>>60006818
Didn't the Marines say they wanted to use them if the Air Force retired them?
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>>60003014
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My favourite jet is the US's new long range nuclear stealth/recce bomber that goes mach 3 (or was it mach 7?) with an almost invisible (golf ball sized) radar signature.

It's classified top secret but info got leaked on /pol/ so you know it's true :^)
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>>60003421
Enjoy your v&
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SU-35 Flanker
Some may be better, few are prettier.
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>>60006828
MiG-25 or MiG-31 ?
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>>60003014
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>>60003014

F-14

always has been
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my favorite is the SB-3 "Ghoul"
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>>60006997

I really want to believe that the SB-3 Ghoul exists, that it can swap payload bays, and that that dude was serious.
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>>60007036

I have no idea how to tell the difference. I would suspect 31 because they're actually in service but who knows.
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panavia tornado. the wings i like. slidey
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>>60006804
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>>60004164
>post a Su-27
>flown by kholol
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>>60007190
SEEN / thnx anon, prolly a MiG-31
mods pls no bullyban
BUUUMP
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>>60006838
F-35 is literally a flying brick.
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a white homeland should scrap together whatever funds it can spare for a squadron of cheap Textron Scorpions (pic related). Just for show, of course. They won't actually do anything, but it might fool some of our people into believing we actually have an air force and thus increase morale. and i guess they could technically escort nosy intruders out of our air space if need be.
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>>60007422
How?
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>>60007511
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a16248/test-pilot-f35-cant-dogfight/

F-35 lost to an F-16 carrying extra fuel tanks in dogfights.
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>>60007628
I like to hate on f35 like the next guy but the age of dogfights is behind us. F35 is as technologically superior to f16 as an ar 15 is to a bolt rifle. F16 won't see him or know he's there while a sidewinder assfucks him
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>>60006383
Will be making a massive mistake if you don't end up with it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dRDWe_kOwM

MiG-29 :^)
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>>60007148
Too much info over too many threads with too much inside knowledge of how top secret and everything related works.

1. It's real
2. Very dedicated storyteller

Entertaining either way. I like to believe it's real, but I take everything I read on /pol/ and 4chan with a grain of salt regardless. I'm not gonna bet my life savings on a post I read here.

Also, "ghoul" was just its nickname. He never said what the official name for the thing was, just what everyone called it. Probably it doesn't even have an actual name yet; just some kind of project designation like "aurora".
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Right now it's the Sukhoi PAK FA T-50, it's a sexy beast, looks 1000 times better than our Eurofighter Typhoon.
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>>60003014
Here's some help to identify enemy niggers
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>>60003014
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>>60007811
That's a common excuse. The big question is why not strap the missiles onto a wooden blimp, which will be just as stealthy for the fraction of cost?
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>>60007864

Every time I see an F-35B, the bitch grows on me a little more. The A and C variants work fine, but the B is the bitch costing the over-budget.
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>>60007811
>F35 is as technologically superior to f16 as an ar 15 is to a bolt rifle.

why only f16? it's the most advanced plane in the world. russians are decades behind
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>>60007811
>the age of dogfights is behind us
any unmanned fighters/interceptors ?
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F22

Russian planes are shit
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>>60007975
>why not strap the missiles onto a wooden blimp, which will be just as stealthy for the fraction of cost?

too slow ?
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Jets are over-rated, especially in this modern era of low-intensity proxy wars.

Cost-effective master-race right here.
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>>60007864
No way. I may like how the F-35 looks, and its stated capabilities aren't _bad_, but for $1 trillion and climbing? (and that - only counting contractor costs) No way.

The money could have been better spent. It's a pork barrel project first and foremost. Effective tool second.

I actually feel like the REAL programs are all top-secret with little political meddling (but still plenty of inefficiency/cruft from shitty contractors like lockheed et al) and don't run absolutely crazy stupid cost overruns like the F-35 did and still is.

If every US weapons program worked like and looked like the F-35, I'd actually be seriously worried about the future ability of the US to defend itself or attack others. The price:performance ratio just isn't there.
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>>60007938

Finnish roundel, best roundel.

>>60007911

That's why I wanted to believe it was real. Dude seemed know what he was talking about. I just figured, worse case, he's some Tom Clancy wannabe who was practicing on us.

I'd actually be good with either scenario.
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>>60008201
Not at all.
Just put a radar-shielded jet engine on it. Still cheaper and more useful than an F-35.
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>>60007924
The ruskies are good at making planes that look cool... not so much at making planes that are actually effective.
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ITT: jetcucks

A properly flown P-40 could out-maneuver and shoot down nearly any modern jet.
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>>60007931
The F-16 looks pretty sweet with conformal fuel tanks.
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>>60008296
hard to break the sound barrier in a blimp
my guess is it would be slow in the turns
i like where you are going with it though
>an air defence wall of tiny stealth blimps, waiting for an enemy to invade airspace
i confess i dont have my fingers on the pulse of front line fighter aircraft anymore, dont know too much about the F-35
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>>60008416

Check out "Fresh Fruits" talking out an Elephant Crawl of Vipers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp7mM2TP_1A
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>>60008412
No.
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>>60008287
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>>60008321
Their planes aren't bad m8. They're just behind in tech after they got trounced in the cold war, and they're catching up pretty quickly.

Dismissing their shit offhand would be stupid and foolish. Frankly, I'd hope our armed forces actually treat the Russian military as a serious threat, because there's no better way for the underdog to win than for his opponent being caught by surprise.
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SU-27, and other Sukhoi planes in general. The design is so fucking good.

>>60008209

Good lad.
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>>60008412
>A properly flown P-40 could out-maneuver and shoot down nearly any modern jet

then why are modern air forces not using updated ww2 era fighters ?
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>>60008553
Jets objectively go too fast and are too heavy to fight efficiently. There's a surprisingly amount of support for reintroducing prop planes to the airforce because of the enhanced control of the plane. Try to be openminded for once in your life.
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>>60000000
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>>60007422
That isn't avionics you dumbass. You're looking for aerodynamics.
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>>60007318
eldeldleldeldleldeldleldledleldleldleldledlelde HAH haaaaaaaaa
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>>60008669
Because the military today does testing that's equivalent to common core. As long as you can follow orders, they'll put you in a plane. Back in the 40's pilots actually had skill.

A WWII pilot in a prop vs a modern pilot in a jet would be like an alligator vs a rabbit.
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>>60008753
I know what I'm talking about, pal.
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Take me on your mighty wings across the skkkkkyyyyy
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>>60008559
i got a chill just watching anon, ty
>>60008655
F-15 short film is also tits, ty again, saved
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>>60006463
Finally someone with taste.

I tip my fedora at you anon.
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>>60007475
If this was unmanned it would sell like hotcakes.

Cool plane btw
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>>60003014
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>>60007924
Typhoon is one of the sexiest planes ever made, sorry, but no, that is a very cool design, but the typhoon gives me a boner that the t50 cannot
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>>60003014
This seems like it should be something for /k/, not here.
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>>60008903
your welcome. I got a bunch more, I think on another hdd. I'll see if I can find them
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>>60008837
>avionics
>talks about physical flight performance

>I know what I'm talking about, pal.
Obviously not.
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>>60008412
>>60008689
This isn't WW2.

You don't need guns to shoot things down. The P-40 would be blown out of the sky before the pilot ever even knew there was enemy beyond the horizon.

Missiles can lock onto prop planes no problem. Even if they weren't allowed, then any modern jet could destroy the P-40 in a boom-and-zoom without any effort. The jet will have the altitude, acceleration, and speed advantage. He doesn't need to get into a turn fight to win, just swoop down and fire a single burst with a computer-assisted gun to destroy the P-40.

If speed, acceleration, climb rate, dive speed aren't that important, then WW2 would have been fought with more maneuverable biplanes and triplanes than fast monoplane designs.
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>>60008545
>this is what slavboos actually believe

Good laugh though.
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>>60009006
Except prop planes are about half the size of jets and missiles are designed to track jets which emit more energy. People are so wrapped up with being "modern" that they forget that older technology is so much superior. A prop plane would be basically undetectable with today's radar being designed for larger things.
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>>60006838
This isn't agility, but it's something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcs6DvaJiPg
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>>60007036
MiG-31 because it has tandem cockpit that isn't stepped like MiG-25PU.
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>>60009127

Aye. It's Cheekie Breevie.
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>>60009091
1v1 me then fag. I'll even take pic related and you can choose whatever fancy jet you'd like. I'll put a round through your cockpit before you even get a visual on me.
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>>60006818
Because we're fucking stupid. It does a fantastic job as an air-to-ground assault craft. But, you know, F35 jack of all trades bulllshit. So really, we have no good reason.
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>>60006616
That's what happens when you compare planes that are nearly two-and-a-half decades apart head-to-head. Is this supposed to be surprising?
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>>60008689
>Jets objectively go too fast and are too heavy to fight efficiently.

You literally do not know anything about aerial combat. The ability to out-speed and out-climb your opponent all but guarantees victory in a dogfight, and that's ignoring that modern aircraft don't need to dogfight in the first place.

>There's a surprisingly amount of support for reintroducing prop planes to the airforce because of the enhanced control of the plane.

Not as fighters there isn't. As attack aircraft yes.

>Try to be openminded for once in your life.

Nigger I posted >>60008209

You're just being fucking stupid.
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>>60006818
>pinned down
>call in air support
>die to friendly fire
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>>60009311
it's still hard for me to believe f35 real.

it's just so sexy
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>>60009154
No. This is all entirely wrong. Every post you've made in this thread is wrong and I don't even want to explain why because it would take me all night. Missiles can easily lock onto a prop plane, they still produce a radar signature now just as much as they did when they were considered modern.
And here's a reason why maneuverable planes in WW2, like the Zero, ended up getting wrecked by stuff like the F6F. It's because maneuverability is only one game and once your opponent refuses to play that game, you will be helpless as they use their superior speed and energy to fight on their terms.
It would be no different now. Keep trying to do stuff like out turn a jet, you will just catch a missile or he will mow you down with the cannon using boom and zoom tactics.
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>>60009384
>modern aircraft don't need to dogfight in the first place
So since, according to you, a prop plane couldn't win in a dogfight against a jet, then jets should be scrapped all together, since modern radar and missiles can't detect old WWII fighter jets. You're just proving my point. Keep trying, though.
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>>60009004

Damn dude, I just don't see it. I think the way the wing shape just forms a giant triangle looks so unappealing to me.

>>60008321

Yeah I can't comment on how good it is as a fighter, I base my opinion only on aesthetics.
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f-16
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She's a trainer, but it's the sweetest ride you'll ever take in your life.
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>>60009401
There's only been 5 incidents of friendly fire casualties from the A-10 in its entire career, and I'm pretty sure all of them were due to miscommunication.
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So sexy.

Why don't American planes have canards? They look awesome.
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>>60009553
>dat filename

lel
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>>60009609
Or the fact that the A-10 is basically a flying brick with a gun strapped to the front.
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>>60009527
You're retarded. See >>60009503 he gets it.

He also has impeccable taste. Last Gunfighter up in this bitch.
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>>60009312
No need for a visual, friend

You will pop up on radar dozens of miles away and an AIM-120 will be on the way to disintegrate whatever antique prop plane you're in, long before you had any idea you were being engaged.
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>>60008216
Better spent on what? Less effective aircraft that cost the same or more?

Mate stop reading clickbait garbage blogs and look at what your current military brass want and why.

Do you think US/Canadia/UK/Aus/Japan/Korea etc top military all just want to line their pockets and that Vlad from RussiaToday is actually correct?

Every US weapons program DOES look like this, you've just never been involved with them this way before and on this scale.

Canada will seriously regret ditching the F-35.
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>>60003014
F-15C.
In my opinion the greatest fighter jet of all time. Unrivaled combat record of 105 kills to 0 A2A losses.
Extremely fast, extremely manueveurable, extremely durable.
>one lost a fucking wing and returned home
Evolved into one of the best multirole strike fighters of all time, the Strike Eagle.
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>>60009657
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>>60009774
>Canada will seriously regret ditching the F-35.

Trudeu is reconsidering afaik.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGke36D84BE
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>>60009786
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>>60009656
Cannards are not a good thing, ausfriend
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>>60009732
So? It's even described as a gun with a jet attached to it, but that's not the reason those friendly fire incidents happened, it was always because of issues with radio channels.
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>>60009740
The Crusader's not my all time favorite (That belongs to the Tomcat, as common as that choice is), but the F-8 is definitely under-appreciated and has its own charm.
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>>60009656
Canards can be cool, but having canards AND traditional horizontal stabilizers is basically an admission by the engineers that they suck can't get the center of lift and and center of mass to align properly.
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>>60009965
My nigger. I loved using that to liberate muh Gracemeria.
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>>60010103
>>60009656
Case in point, look at the Gripen. Canards, but no horizontal stabilizer in back. This is how you are supposed to use canards.

The way Ivan does it is amateur shit.
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>>60009914
Hopefully DUDEWEED looks past his election rhetoric and does the right thing for the Canucks.
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>>60010215
You do know that one is a delta wing and the other is traditional right?

I agree with you that they're better, but in no way can they be compared.
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>>60009154
You're completely and utterly retarded.

Modern all-aspect IR seekers can lock onto the heat signature of an airframe being heated by skin friction during flight. A piston engine spewing heat from its exhaust and engine cowling will stick out like a sore thumb against the cold background of the sky.

Jets wouldn't even need to fire a single shot to down some WW2 prop planes either. They'd just need to zip by them and let the jet blast knock them from the sky.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_(film)#Production

>In one scene where an F-14 "thumps" a Zero by flying under and streaking upward in front of the slower aircraft, the resultant "jet blast" of turbulent air was so intense that the control columns of both of the Zeros in the scene were violently wrenched out of the pilots' hands and caused both aircraft to momentarily tumble out of control.[Note 4] The lead pilot's headset, along with his watch were ripped off and out of the open canopy of his Zero, resulting in a few anxious moments as the F-14 pilots were unable to establish contact.
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>>60010541
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVmPffxDkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVmPffxDkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVmPffxDkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVmPffxDkU
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>>60010105
being a pilot in that thing having those two ww2 noisy as niggers jet engines to each side of you must have been a deef driving experience.
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If anyone wants to watch a good jet movie, check out Les Chevaliers Du Ciel "Sky Fighters". It's French but you'll have to find one with english subs, the subs on this one are kinds fucked.

Here's a cool scene
https://youtu.be/ndYeuZ10Ppo?t=1h18m
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>>60009774
>Every US weapons program DOES look like this

This. Before the F-35 there was, pic related, the V-22 Osprey. Same shit, slightly smaller scale. Huge cost over-runs, lots of issues in testing. Now its in service and has been a literal life saver, and is a huge asset.
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Mig 31 Firefox
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>>60010320
Yes, that's the point dumdum.

Using canards in a delta wing configuration is acceptable. Using canards when you still have a horizontal stabilizer is amateur bullshit.
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looks like its from outta space
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>>60010494
i saw on of these with two green/white lights and one red on an early summer morning at about 4:00
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>>60010813
that's beautiful
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>>60007108
Me too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVDmFvTzd-o
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>>60010201
Same here. AC6 is underrated as fuck
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Obviously the Gripen
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>>60008872
only if >brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttt
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>>60006726
huh I was wondering if such a maneuver was possible
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>>60011300
do we know whats what in this picture? its rather confusing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4v6wqxWOo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk
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>>60008818
anon please see >>60009091
and >>60009384
and>>60009503
>I don't even want to explain why because it would take me all night
i did some quick proofing of ww2 aircraft and jets b4 java shit the bed on me and had a long explanation typed up for you
so let me comment on this :
>Because the military today does testing that's equivalent to common core. As long as you can follow orders, they'll put you in a plane
false for sure
mp checking id's at the main gate, ok
>hey you passed common core, here is a multi-million dollar aircraft to fly
yea, no

>>60009265
>tandem cockpit that isn't stepped like MiG-25PU
SEEN anon, ty

>>60009052
sweet

>>60009656
strakes instead of canards, ie f-16, f/a-18

>>60009740
>>60010050

>Last Gunfighter up in this bitch
UNDERATED
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>>60011830
I will buy a PS4 just to play this.
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>>60008559
dope
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F-14 tomcat
All other aircraft need not apply
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>>60010175
this is an overpriced piece of shit

this here on the other hand is just as capable and way more economic
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>>60013865
Can't into hyperspace m8.
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>>60011709
that movie was dope
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>>60013923
that is what gunboats are for
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>>60013865
>No shielding
>No on-board life support
>No Warp Drive
>Pitiful twin turbo lasers

No thanks.
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>>60006092
Genie, The perfect AA missile, fuck everything in that particular direction...
" unguided air-to-air rocket with a 1.5 kt W25 nuclear warhead.[1]"
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>>60010175
>being such a shit pilot that you need pussy shit like shields and life support.
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>>60014012
those "pitiful lasers" can rip through just about any fighter you can put up against it

shields are energy sucking shitshows, that wont help you anyways if you have an enemy in your neck
if that energy can go to your engines or lasers instead you can easily win any dogfight
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>>60004841
and that he didn't plow it into a bunch of fucking spectators
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>>60014170
Sure in 1 on 1 scenario the tie fighter might come out on top 6 out of 10 times sacrificing all defense, but in a group furrball with more than 50 star fighters on each side with over 250 turbo lasers going off every second I'd rather not suddenly blow up when when a piece of micro debris decides to touch my hull. I'd also like the option to warp the fuck out when something goes awry.

This is why none of those Imp faggots with the exception of Lord Vader escaped the Deathstar.
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Its the weird kind of sexy.
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>>60014479
the deathstar was a fucking inside job
why do you think the fucking 501st was suddendly unable to do their job?
why did the deathstars tie fighter screen not activate fully?
vader and palpatine are traitors and deserved to die.
and to your furball scenario the price of each unit becomes important
and we know that the Tie wins in that regard, which means that you can field more of them at once for the same cost
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>>60009091
>won't work on based wooden hurricane
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This beaut

The F22 Raptor
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>>60014666

This IMP logic and conspiracy theories....

Doesn't matter how much fucking tie fighters you can produce at the lowest possible galactic credit, protecting your pilots (the most expensive and most vital part of your weapon system) is the most important thing in space warfare. You may produce 3,000 tie fighters in a standard galactic year, but it takes 4 years of grueling training to produce a competent fighter pilot, thus not going cheap on your hardware and giving your pilot the best chance of surviving combat is actually a pretty damn good thing.
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>>60004549
>Also the F22 can't even deploy to Syria because the Russians set up a 25 dollar radar system

It's already been deployed over Syria, dozens of times.
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>>60014770
>what is heatseeker
>what is engine heat

great bird though

> Archie McKellar
>oct 7th 1940
>BTFO x5 bf-109s
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>>60015046
Another based Raptor fan like myself.
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>>60014770
Yes, it will. The engine still gets hot and releases exhaust regardless of what material the airframe is made of.

And that's only accounting for heat-seeking IR guidance like the kind used in nearly all AIM-9 variants in service. You could be flying an airplane made of ice and a missile using an active radar lock like an AIM-120 will still shoot you down, heat signature or not.

Great plane though. Huge fan of British aircraft design. Hawker Tempest and Seafury are my favorite airplanes ever.
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SAAB has made some sexy shit over the years
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He 162

could have changed everything
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