Whats going on Oregon? I dont have cable sorry.

I haven't seen any tv coverage yet and I've been flipping around throughout the day. A little odd...

>>60002724
just a bunch of hicks going on about >muh guns

>>60002724
"Armed insurrection" at a literally empty gov't building in the middle of fucking nowhere.

MSM is over-reacting and clickbaiting as usual.

#YALLQAIDA is waging #YEEHAAWD

>>60003520
>#YEEHAAWD

LOL

>>60003304
figures

>>60002724
Nothing is happening. Go to bed.

>>60002724

Two whites were arrested, convicted, and served time in prison. Then they were released. The feds said "fuck you whiteys" and decided they should go back to prison because reasons. People who are tired of tyrants are doing something about it. Granted, it isn't much. But it's something.

>>60002724
>>60005165

*edit

arrested, convicted, and served time in prison for a non-violent offense.

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>>60003520

>>#YEEHAWWD

>>60002724
Bumping for interest

Armed group's leader in federal building: 'We will be here as long as it takes'
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-protest/index.html

>>60002724
Some fucktards are squatting in an unused government building.

Tame compared to the type of shit BLM does.

>>60003022
That's because it's evil whites resisting the benevolent government

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ive really been looking into these patriots involved in the Oregon takeover and these guys are literally American heros
Like for years the BLM (Buearu of Land Management) has been taking private property and these are the only guys doing something about it. Even the governor of Texas has been unable to stop the communist-like take over of private land by the federal government.

So yea those militiamen in Oregon are literally patriots. And i doubt many of the people calling them terrorists and laughing at them understand the reality of the situation. Let's see whether they'll still be laughing at these heroes if the BLM ever takes away land that THEY'VE owned for generations for no reason at all

>>60005828
This.

It breaks my heart seeing literal Americans have so much contempt for America.

>tfw some Canadian gives more of a shit and applauds their actions while Americans shit on them, call them "terrorists" and even call for their deaths

>>60005828
These guys are lighting a spark, and hopefully it starts a flame of resistance.

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>>60002724
>white as a map color

>>60005989
i'm not gonna banepost but i was tempted

>>60006100
I should've worded it in a way that it wasn't tempting, I apologize.

But seriously I hope this encourages separatist groups and land rights groups to be more active and public.

The saddest part is that the issue is still entirely about racism. People who support black lives matter and leftist faggots are literally cheering for he government to murder these modern day heroes because the people involved are white. Turns out they're just as fucking racist as anyone else. So instead of the story being about the federal government using power not granted by the US constitution, the story is once again: " racism in the media"

>>60006300
i don't care too much about the land rights issues with the bundy's because ultimately i could give two shits about broke ass ranchers who can't afford grazing fees and i don't want wildlife refuges sold off to mining companies and loggers but what the court did here needs to stop. appealing sentences after serving the original is a dirty tactic that is overused.

>>60007067
good. you deserve to die like a the faggot you are.

>>60006928
This, unfortunately. But maybe the people who aren't media sheep will act now that someone has made the first move.

>>60002724

I dunno. Let me wake up my 12yo waifu, she might know.

>>60007193
>LE DRONES AND MILITARY WOULD BE DEPLOYED XDDDDDDDDD
>5000 upboats
sure glad we routinely use drones to kill people on the homeland and send marines in all the time

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>>60007193

>Of course, Tim McVeigh tried the domestic terrorism thing too, but it didn't turn out that great for him.

What? No, seriously, what the fuck?

McVeigh's explicit goal was to get the FBI and ATF to rewrite their rules of engagement

And guess what happened? They IMMEDIATELY rewrote their rules of engagement, and we have never had a Waco-teir incident since.

McVeigh won. Objectively. He had a goal and it was obtained.

I don't understand what her logic is. Is it because he was executed? He never expected to live through it, so that's a non-starter.

>So did David Koresh.

The fuck? Koresh never threatened anyone. He INVITED THE ATF TO VISIT THE COMPLEX. And the allegations of child abuse (which weren't even the fed's jurisdiction, but that's another story for another time) turned out to be complete bunk. Zero evidence it ever happened.

And even putting that aside, 160+ people got blown the fuck up in revenge for what happened to him, so you can argue that he came out on top.

Did this girl spend even five seconds thinking about what she was typing?

>>60007703
>>60007773
My emotions say more than real evidence ever could!

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>>60003520
>demonizing yall and taking the yeehaw in vain
of quitting

it's kinda funny how american citizens who have never been out of the country are being arrested on no-joke terrorism charges and like the biggest thread on /pol/ right now is fucking trump or some shit

perhaps we were the retarded faggots all along

>>60007773
>Did this girl spend even five seconds thinking about what she was typing?

Of course she didn't, it's Facebook. Being a retard is encouraged.

>>60007193
How could people be so spineless? It's like basically saying "Yes Uncle Sam! Bend me over and fuck my asshole!"

>>60007843
when will Texas become a country again?

>>60007904
We always were, or at least since /pol/ harbor.

/pol/ is the sick man of 4chan.

>>60002724
People using their first amendment rights to petition the government by sitting in the parking lot of a facility that's center to 100 years of the federal government bullying and harassing local ranchers. The trigger was the fed appealing the sentencing of two men that had served their full sentences for a questionable conviction and were out of jail. By having a friendly federal judge extending their jail time to 4 times what they had served after they refused yet again to sell their land to the BLM.

>>60007193
God those people are so fucking clueless, no wonder they all like Commisar Sanders.

>>60007904
>perhaps we were the retarded faggots all along
perhaps

>>60007067
The bigger issue for me is the taking back of our rights from the fed, but making sure the government can't take our land for no reason is a good place to start the fight.

>>60008622
New meme magic goal?

>>60007943
They've been conditioned. Still though this incident will hopefully open the eyes of a few people and encourage more resistance.

>>60008679
I would support it.

>>60005188
which saved their property and livelihoods

>>60003520

#LOL

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

summary :

family owns lands since the 1870s

fed has wanted your land for years to turn into a wildlife reservoir (i.e. make money)

never sell to them regardless of their constant harassment by ATF and BLM (bureau of land management)

2001, routine bush fire on property

tell fire department beforehand, accidentally burn 100 acres of federal land, put it out yourselves

2006, lightning storm starts bush fire on your property

start backfire to push it away from your private property

cops show up next day and press charges , go to court

get tried and convicted, sentenced to a year in jail

go to prison for roughly one year

get let out, government says you've served your time

2011, feds want your land again, still won't sell

feds issue re-sentencing convicting you of domestic terrorism - now wants to enforce a mandatory minimum

minimum of 5 more years in federal prison

now a convicted terrorist - must serve 5 more years in federal prison

focus heavily on deer/elk hunting on your own property while in season - call it poaching - say lack of evidence is no reason not to plaster it in media

150 men and women occupy a completely empty government building that was closed for the winter - nobody hurt

liberals call them terrorists, make them look radical, don't look into what actually happened and compare to a hypothetical if they were muslim or black etc. yet ask why these people havent been droned/murdered by the feds

they appear ready to die

>https://youtu.be/sbGdMKpHDDE

We need Trump ASAP

As long as they let people through to visit Steens Mountain and visit the wildlife refuge, I don't care.

I've always enjoyed Harney County.

When I lived in the Albany, OR area I remember hearing from certain people about how BLM is mismanaging the land and fucking with people that have large plots of land. Never thought much about it till this shit went down. Wish I still lived in OR to have a better idea of whats going on.

>>60008899
Guess you gotta give up your home. Uncle Sam wants to build a park

>>60007193
>muh well-regulated militia

>>60005828

I'm sympathetic to this position but want to see more facts.

To me it seems the situation boils down to a simple discrepancy in the stories told by the FEDs and by the militia.

Did the Hammonds or did they not commit deliberate arson and if so what was the motive?

Remember we're considering son and a father, 46 and a 75 years old.

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>>60008721
Meme magic for the patriot party? I feel like the tea party already ruined the whole patriot thing t bq h pham.

>>60008879
God I hope Trump hears about it and brings national attention to it.

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>>60008911
What going on is the seizure of all our land by the federal government.

>>60009394
Everytime I see something about Texas I love them more and more.

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>>60009394
>TSA fucking up
>DHS fucking up
>BLM fucking up

And people still want larger government and Hillary as president.

>>60009394
Public land does have upsides though. It's nice to go innawoods without a rancher trying to shoot you.

>>60009677
Even the Texas governed sides with Bundy Ranch but was powerless to stop the Feds from trying to snatch up some land.

>>60009816
We can still have public lands! But they would be controlled by state governments, not federal government.

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>>60002724
>Whats going on Oregon?

lol who knows!

But enjoy having this thread slide on down to page 3 then 5 then oblivion in 3..2...1..

>>60009394
What this picture says to me is that the federal government would like to control all the natural resources and all means if growing food. I can easily imagine a scenario where the government owns most of the farmland and only let's a company like Monsanto use it.

>>60009875
Ya, imminent domain is a crime too.

>>60009931
spooky

>>60002724
Cowboys are teaching the nogs how to peacefully protest.

>>60009963
>farmland
>in the Rockies
>le evil GMO boogeyman

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Yeah a daytime TV host....

>>60009931
Anything about current events is an automatic slide thread. Need more space for cuck and trump threads anyways.

>>60009963
To me it's about long term management and strategy.
That land out there is shit and it takes many acres to support a tiny heard. We have feed lots for that in current year.
Like it or not, smart people are planning for the future.

>>60010138
Wonder how that fuckhead would respond to the National Guard heading into Chicago to clear out the thugs and criminals with shoot to kill orders.

Some old hillbillies walked into a post office and refused to leave until they got a phone call from the White House.

It's a non-story that the media is trying to make into a story.

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man... i gotta get to mexico.........

>>60010087
>>60010276
Well ok, maybe the government does know what's best, maybe the government won't abuse their power this time. Still, the land should be owned by the states, not the federal government.

>>60007193
These people use their real names and nothing happens.

>>60007773

>Did this girl spend even five seconds thinking about what she was typing?

of course, she used the "hunt and peck"method of typing.

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>>60010430
>the federal government bought, cleared, and tilled the land
>THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO IT MUH STATES RIGHTS

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Is this the truth /pol/?

>>60009121
>Did the Hammonds or did they not commit deliberate arson and if so what was the motive?

They burned part of their property twice, once to remove invasive plants once as a back burn to protect their land and buildings (homes).
Both cases small amounts of federal land had the grass burned.

The jury for their trial were not allowed to know what the sentence could be, were not allowed to hear about standard farming practices, had to drive 2 hours a day to get to the trial, the fed was given 6 days while the defense was limited to 1 day. They were convicted and sentenced under a federal terrorism law that covered arson intended for property like buildings or motor pools not grassland. The ranchers appealed the sentence of 5 years and had it reduced to 4 months and 1 year.

After the serving their full sentences the BLM tried yet again to buy their land, they refused. The federal government had a federal judge re-sentence them back to 5 years. The higher courts all refused to hear this case on appeal.

The protesters are in the parking lot of the building that has been the center of almost 100 years of federal government harassment. They have not blocked access to the building other than taking up some of the parking lot. They have not taken the building, or even violated any law as it's all public property.

>>60010600
It depends on the cause
It would most likely be 150 armed men killing people in the nameof Allah, or 150 armed men storming the building to implement Shariah Law.

>>60010546
It sets a dangerous precedent. We may never pry away the egregious amount power we have alreadyrm relinquished to the federal government.

>>60010803

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/11/AR2007031101562.html

>>60010600
Yes, but only because the Muslims use violence while whites don't when doing that type of thing.

>>60011087
Religion of peace amirite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Freemen


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_incident

>>60008053
A calculated commie attack on private property rights, to be certain.

>>60002724
>less than 12

>>60002724
The corporate globalists shills are continuing to use their government whores to punish self-sufficient food producers.

He who controls food, controls the world.

Hi Daniel

I love all these Muzzies commenting and tweeting saying, "Oh, it were Islamic people, this would be different."

No shit. Even the government knows white men are civilized and won't suicide bomb themselves.

I'm so glad I deleted social media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3JqIceKh6I

For anyone that has the mental fortitude to get through a 26 min video, this based judge will BTFO of BLM and the faggot sheriff of OK who doesn't know how to do his fucking job.

Download the .pdf and spread this shit, it's fucking gold.

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>>60009394
why does the federal government want so much land on the west?

>>60011726
>>60011726

Linking the legacy thread.

Ah hilarity I meant to link the OP of that thread.

>>60009077
>>60009077

>>60007193
>The 2nd Amendment gives you the right to join the military
>Aren't you glad you live in a free country, where you have the right to join the military? All those people in Nazi Germany probably wish they did when Hitler rose to power.

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>>60002724

>>60007193

This is what controlled opposition is. Most extreme views and many of the votes for them are from the government and bots. They have single people controlling more personas than even the most dedicated weird twitter user and it's their mission.

Things are going to get much worse before they get better. The gov wants to legitimize the targeting of individual citizens on the basis of affiliation or opinion.

armed white people running around woods is last thing we should be concerned about

>>60010668
Thank you.

Any chance for a source or two?

>>60013021
This would be HBGary et al.

>>60005828
Texas only rents land to the feds.
The feds cant buy Texas land, check your Reconstruction history, Texas is a protectorate.

>>60011720
They need somewhere to keep their top secret shit

>>60008053
They did poaching and set the woods on fier to cover there crime. Thats no minor incident.

>>60015267
>They did poaching and set the woods on fier to cover there crime
source? I feel like there are better ways to avoid bringing attention to a crime besides starting a huge fire.

>>60009816
>>60009875
I don't know, it's still immensely useful to just be able to legally enter land literally in the middle of nowhere. In most of the west, you're usually within 2 or 3 hours' drive of free camping on public land outside of the Bay Area or the LA Basin. As soon as you cross into Texas, for example, this becomes monstrously harder. And private land becomes a nightmare to navigate for entry permits if you have a project that covers multiple sites. While public land is better restricted to wasteland that can't support much anyways, there is a huge benefit to the relatively free access afforded to pretty much anyone by federal land. Unfortunately, states tend to use state land as more of a rent-seeking operation than the federal government does.

For recreation or academic activity, it's simply easier to have access to large tracts of public land than to try to work with potentially dozens of private owners.

>>60009816
Except they keep closing more and more of it off to the public...

>>60015267
>They did poaching and set the woods on fier to cover there crime. Thats no minor incident.

They were never convicted of poaching and further the only witness was a grandson that was 13 at the time under pressure from the federal government to make a statement decades later.

No evidence has ever been found to prove poaching.

Also farmers don't start massive wild fires to hide poaching, they just drop the bodies into wooded areas and let the animals take care of it, or shovel and shutup.

>>60011720
they want any land they can get, but most of the east was already owned by the upper class before the U.S. even existed.

>>60003520
Underrated kek

>>60002724
look a blue dragon.

>>60010138
why the fuck is Montel Williams even a thing?

Oregon fag here, all my freinds are bluepilled and they are calling them terrorists and laughing at them and even one of teachers went on a rant about how this is "the biggest example of white priveledge in a while" god i fucking hate this state