So I was talking to some people today about Islam and what we should do about it; but we were also talking about the problems in our society.
It seems as if Feminism, combined with MSM, Pornography, Fashion&Beauty industry run by faggots, and LGBT movements are making us into completely worthless degenerates - there is no more culture left to salvage at this point, I feel like.
In Canada, the left has been "educating" (read: indoctrinating) children for at least two decades - with "critical thinking" aka critical theory from the Frankfurt school. Now it is being accelerated towards more degeneracy and flat out anti-Christian views in the new sex-ed curriculum proposed by our lovely leaders in health: a menopausal lesbian and convicted child pornographer.
So, what does ISIS have to do with this?
Well, these things I just listed - aren't they exactly why ISIS hates us? They want to purge the world of our degeneracy. So, other than their plans to kill us all, they are actually in the right here.
I fully support an increase in military presence against ISIS, and I endorse Donald Trump 100% - but something needs to be done, simultaneously, about the issues I raised. These need to be addressed as the threats they are - they are just as dangerous as ISIS, if not worse. Because if they reach their ultimate conclusions, ISIS will be welcomed with open arms and we'll all be slaughtered like cattle, or enslaved for sex and Jizya.
tl;dr: We need to fight ISIS, but Feminism, MSM, Pornography, Fashion&Beauty Industry, LGBT and all things "left" are just as dangerous in the long run to the well-being of Western nations.
Also, women have to be put in their place, as part of this - or we are doomed.
You think so? I mean, I understand that would eliminate porn (other than for a few disgusting people that would meet in one place to all watch together) ..
But the internet is how most non-leftists keep their sanity, speaking for myself at least. I'm surrounded by cucks and need to know there are others out there who aren't fucking insane.
If Trump wins an election, and the pendulum shifts to the right, then I would be inclined to agree with you.
We're essentially saying the Amish were right, though. Technology is the devil and all that.
>Its a very simple problem with a very simple solution.
>1. Ban all muslims.
>2. Stop allowing muslims into the country.
>Boom. 0 terrorist attacks in the future.
But if you allow the rest of the issues to continue that I mentioned; they will only be banned for so long.
men are weak because they let machines do all the work
nerd = proto-faggot
the computer is a fag making machine, all 20th century technology has its roots in spiritualism/occult revival, you can look this up
goddamn posts like this make me LOL. it warms the my liberal heart.
you guys are the same fucking oppressive fascists as islamists. your enemy is literally yourselves. it's fucking delicious.
look at this...honestly considering "hey maybe these ISIS guys are onto SOMETHING" without a trace of fucking irony.
>there is no feminism on the family farm.
Yes of course, but can we really return to just being farmers? I mean, personally, I want to own land and grow my own food - raise animals etc... but I'm also a Mathematician.
> men are weak because they let machines do all the work
> nerd = proto-faggot
As someone who spends a lot of time at a University mainly known for Computer Science, I certainly agree with you on that one...
> the computer is a fag making machine, all 20th century technology has its roots in spiritualism/occult revival, you can look this up
I always thought it was some sort of strange accident due to Number Theorists or something. But when you think of earlier inventions before the computer, like simple electrical devices - it is indeed strange.
As Terence Mckenna put it - it's as if we coaxed a little elemental (electricity) into becoming our friend.
Do you have any links you'd suggest on that topic?
keep fucking that chicken, "conservatives"
I still hate Islam. I don't want to spread my ideology by violence, nor do I want to treat all non-(whatever my ideology is) as garbage/slaves.
Their treatment of women is too extreme (sex slaves) and their teachings in general are just too extreme and barbaric. Perhaps if they reformed themselves to be more rational, then they'd be fine people - minus the whole being shitskins thing.
> it warms the my liberal heart.
English is not your strong suit, I see.
Doesn't everything warm liberal hearts, anyway?
> look at this...honestly considering "hey maybe these ISIS guys are onto SOMETHING" without a trace of fucking irony.
They want to destroy degeneracy, that's why they have waged war on us.
I'm saying that we should get rid of it also - without the violence. That way they'll leave us alone, and we won't have to suffer with these insufferable cunts in our countries anymore.
> Gun for protection
> Gun for killing infidels
> Same thing
>They want to destroy degeneracy, that's why they have waged war on us.
>I'm saying that we should get rid of it also
you've already crossed the rubicon of evil, so why stop there?
I'm not surprised you're obsessed with using strange words that sound like "cock".
Now please get out, the adults are trying to speak about real issues.
an adult is talking, and i'm the only one audible, apparently.
tell us more about how ISIS has brought upon this revelation.
i'm still loving how the irony of what you're saying is completely beyond your grasp
I agree, and I like to think pragmatically. So that's not really an option - we need to do something to return to ORDER, at least.
Women having political power is not the way of nature - we are making ourselves into a force which goes against all natural laws. That can't ever be sustained and we will pay the price if we don't change our ways..
>tell us more about how ISIS has brought upon this revelation.
ISIS hasn't brought on this revelation to me, you illiterate moron.
If ISIS didn't even exist, I'd be saying the same thing. The West is dying and it's because of the issues raised in my OP.
If ISIS didn't even exist, I'd be saying the same thing.
oh, i know you would. that's why this is even funnier (or, even more horrifying). you are literally cut of the same cloth as violent and oppressive islam, yet you're too deluded to see the essence of the connection.
it's a chilling reminder of the banality of evil. how easy it is to slip into it without even realizing...
>someone living in north american continent
>categorizes the entire western world to be "degenerate"
yes, of course when you live in the literal black hole of degeneracy, you tend to think that it must be like so elsewhere
You are right, your continent needs to be purged from all human life, wipe the slate clean.
You're an idiot.
> Feminism, MSM, Pornography, Fashion&Beauty Industry, LGBT
You're the problem with North America. Please fucking kill yourself.
something has to happen to inspire women to start making their own clothes and home products again
it would appeal to feminists while secretly fixing some of the degeneracy as they grow to enjoy being a woman again.
this is something the internet could be used for
Right, well.. Canada, USA, UK, Germany, France, Sweden... that's a large part of the Western world.
I understand there are exceptions (thank God) and I hope there continue to be. Personally I will be trying to leave Canada for one of them - I am not sure where, yet. I originally wanted to move to France since I speak French... but an 8% Muslim population (and counting) is quite the problem...
Good point. Especially making their own clothes.
I know girls who complain they can't find anything "decent" to wear anymore, because slutty clothes are all they even have to choose from anymore.
And they'd certainly feel more feminine, doing as they are supposed to do.
there's a solution out there for women who wear can't help but wear slutty clothes. it's a great way of controlling how they present themselves. i think i saw it somewhere....can't remember...hmmmm...
>DEY BOTH GOD CRITICAL IN DEM I FIGGERED IT OUT!
the reason the west is failing is because we tolerate idiocy.
Riiiiight. Keep supporting
> Feminism, MSM, Pornography, Fashion&Beauty Industry, LGBT
I'm advocating traditional gender roles, the elimination of degenerate forms of media like pornography which abuses women and brainwashes men, and putting an end to lies in MSM... but that makes me a fascist? Sounds like you just hate truth and human instinct.
We also need to put an end to pic-related.
better than living in a country with population already being half spic/nigger with whites becoming a minority by 2020
besides, right wing already on the rise in europe while in the north america it's completely absent
europe has experience in quickly switching to extreme measures when under pressure
hey guys what do you think the western version of a burka would look like?
communists / radical leftist protestors can be redpilled in a similar way when they find out that all the social degeneracy is actually a by product of things like regimented work hours. I have a friend who's literally a marxist Jew who is starting to see the light, he literally started posting things from Returnofkings now. He was formerly obese and bipolar and failing school and has now lost most of his weight and started a business. the left/right spectrum is a horseshoe that easily crosses over to the other side
> I didn't attend a Canadian school where they teach "critical thinking": the post.
Perhaps I should have been more clear. It is Critical Theory applied to children, in order to advance a leftist agenda.
Funny that you mentioned he lost weight - seems like this has something to do with it. Like a man has to be fit to be able to think properly.
> regimented work hours
I guess that's possible. It does create a strange kind of personality - and certainly does create someone who yearns for more free things that they'll never be able to get at their dead end jobs. I get the appeal, I guess.
I only had 40 hour work weeks about 6 years ago so I don't really remember it being about that; I was young and didn't have many expenses or responsibilities. And now I don't really have regimented hours since I'm in academia. That may change, it depends on where I end up moving to suit my family's needs.
the underlying philosophy is the same. the ideals are the same. the difference is in execution. the difference is what happens when your ideals are taken to their logical extremes. you get something not unlike what present radical islam looks like.
i am really asking you to take a step back and thing about this.
Except I don't agree with any of this (pic related)
No. I've already talked about that in this thread.
What would be so funny about Engineering, anyway? What do you study anon, Gender studies?
I'm not exactly fit but I don't eat much, and I'm just starting to work out this year. It's possible to not be fit and think decently but that just means you could be even better. I actually have literal high-functioning autism and am well aware that an ideal society would probably shun me and deem me worthy of killing off. But at the same time I do think vaccines and diet play a huge role in that.
>i am really asking you to take a step back and thing about this.
> a liberal asking someone to take a step back and think about something
You're fucking hilarious.
> the difference is in execution
I haven't even talked about execution. In fact, I said I don't even think it's possible at this point because we waited too long - and there are pussies like you who will side with women and let us all fall.
In a way, the purpose of this thread was to talk about how it would be possible, without being violent like Islam.
Are you going to tell me I'm being like ISIS if I start to employ the same subversive psychological techniques the left uses to make people see the truth? Not that I would even go that route, because it's not needed. People will hopefully see through the lies, and it seems that as time goes on - the left is losing its power due to their slip-ups. Little brief moments where you can see how psychotic they really are.
> there is no more culture left to salvage at this point, I feel like.
Learn to read, please.
>Critical Theory applied to children
give one example because I get the feeling you are talking out of fear rather than concern for an actual problem
you know what man, i think we're on the same side of this. i see a girl with pretty severe acne and i think it's sad that she feels that she has to literally paint over her face to become acceptable in society.
the difference is i see the source of this sad impulse in the inflexible and often-unattainable standard of female beauty—which is encouraged and upheld by men.
except where i would prefer we eliminate this absurd standard altogether, you'd prefer to recreate it...in your image. with whatever weird freudian personal preferences you're espousing in this horrible thread.
you want to control the way they look just as badly as any far-right muslim cleric sitting on a rug in saudi arabia.
and still you don't understand.
>I actually have literal high-functioning autism and am well aware that an ideal society would probably shun me and deem me worthy of killing off
Why would they do that? You're still useful aren't you?
Maybe sterilize, though, I have to be honest. I don't know if a perfect society would employ eugenics, though.
I also have my doubts about what autism actually is, with the way children are raised these days - and their environment being so toxic must have something to do with it.
Sure, she could be cute if she hadn't ruined her skin with years of makeup.
Look at this girl. She looks better without it, I think. Especially if she stopped wearing it altogether, her skin would only improve.
I think it's a combination of environmental factors and parenting, but definitely more of the former, because my brother had the same shitty liberal parenting as me and turned out a complete bluepilled normie. I think for higher-functioning, the diagnosis itself is crippling and gives excuses for either meds, bad parenting or being ostracized by schools. I almost spent my childhood in SPED classes but my parents objected (the one good thing they did for me) and now I'm finishing a master's in electrical engineering at a top 10 university
>which is encouraged and upheld by men
It's encouraged and upheld by MSM, Celebrities, Cosmopolitan Magazine, and the Fashion/Beauty industry.
Who runs these industries? Jews and FAGS.
Men are just as much victims to it all as women are. They are lured in by pornography; so they think it's normal for women to look that way and behave like whores. They become desensitized and sexually accustomed to degenerate lifestyles.
Makeup is just as much a trick on men as it is on women. Blush simulates sexual arousal - so the man thinks she's always aroused. Red lipstick does the same. Foundation and all that shit makes it seem like she has clear, perfect skin and large eyes - all traits of health and fertility.
> you'd prefer to recreate it...in your image
What the fuck are you talking about?
I want to eliminate it. I've said that. Learn to read.
> you want to control the way they look just as badly as any far-right muslim cleric sitting on a rug in saudi arabia.
No, I don't.
I want women to take back control over their lives and for men to stop being brainwashed into being attracted to paint and unattainable images of whores on screens.
You have no clue, man. Give it up.
> you still don't understand
No, I understand far more than you do - I'm sorry you can't keep up.
You're on the right track here. Women are the enemy and female suffrage was the final nail in the coffin od the west. They need to be subjugated. People have understood this for centuries but now people are so desparate to not appear "bigoted" or "sexist" that we no longer accept this truth.
My biggest problem with Islam is their theology. I would have absolutely no problems with a Catholic state trying to achieve the same goals.
Honestly, I wouldn't know what to think. I mean, you're smart and successful.. how are you to be told you're mentally disabled? It's kind of strange.
I try not to be too much into conspiracy theories, but you have to wonder why they feel the need to suppress certain individuals who would be perfectly fine without their intervention, or who might even be more successful than average?
Muslims never have valid arguments, it's either "it's out of context" or "you didn't use the right translation." You can never have a discussion with you people.
Also fuck off shitskin.
>besides, right wing already on the rise in europe while in the north america it's completely absent
This is such a load of bullshit. At least half of this country is hardcore right-wingers. People open talk shit about Mexicans, Arabs. and Niggers here in Southern Indiana and no one cares at all.
I've come to humble myself and am now afraid that smart successful people who are socially impaired like me are a huge problem and the tech industry enables them. I'm the enemy, and this is what scares me. But I also do think that there was a plot to cause people like me - people smart enough to to very well but not be leaders. I've specifically looked into Lyme disease and its possible correlation with autism, as Lyme was likely leaked from a research lab in Long Island. Then there's the dimension that Lyme and Syphilis bacteria are very closely related, and it's possible that the huge autism spike in the early 90's is related to the 70's promiscuous generation having kids with dormant syphilis .
This is the most opposed site I could find for it and their complaints can't even be related to critical theory at all. Its just moral complaints from christians. If there are mentions of power structures or criticisms of heterosexuality's "dominance" or any other marxist idea I cant find it help me out senpai. Unless you believe acknowledging the existence of trannies and jerking off is somehow indoctrination?
>I would have absolutely no problems with a Catholic state trying to achieve the same goals.
Yea, because we would do it peacefully, which is something the Liberal autist in this thread doesn't seem to understand.
> inb4 crusades and witch hunts
I'm hoping Poland does this. It seems like they have the capacity to. Probably because they don't believe in a watered-down/protestant version of Catholicism.
>It's encouraged and upheld by MSM, Celebrities, Cosmopolitan Magazine, and the Fashion/Beauty industry...
yes, which is still part and parcel a product of the male-centric conversation of female beauty. since forever. you realize that women can be willing participants in this, yes?
and wtf is this about jews and gays? wtf are you even on about you unhinged idiot?
>they think it's normal for women to look that way and behave like whores
they are the SOURCE of this pathology you fool. men set the expectation and the precedent for this unreasonable behavior. for starters: investigate the madonna/whore complex and then get back to me.
>No, I don't.
you don't? and yet you say things such as....
>I'm advocating traditional gender roles
(what does that mean? do tell!)
>they'd'd certainly feel more feminine, doing as they are supposed to do.
>I want women to take back control over their lives
how cute that you use the language of liberation and agency while at the same time proscribing the behavior.
the way for women "to take back control" is not to assign them mythic "traditional gender roles." in a just world they would make those determinations themselves. but you already have something in mind for them, don't you?
Hmm interesting. I can't say I know anything about that though.
I definitely think the tech industry enables, as this anon said >>59982506
"weak proto-faggots" to have successful careers - which means they get married and have children (which they probably never would have otherwise)...
>Unless you believe acknowledging the existence of trannies and jerking off is somehow indoctrination?
That's exactly what I, and the website I linked to you, believe... along with the rest of it being degenerate indoctrination.
>My biggest problem with Islam is their theology
Islam is not a homogeneous monolith, there is no consensus on theology anymore.
>I should be free to use contextomy and you shouldn't complain about it
Why do you think I'd want to have a serious discussion with some retarded zealot on a satirical board? People like you are the right-wing equivalent of SJWs, keep going with the dumb propaganda.
Not really, a lot of them talk about the Arab polytheists of that time and people represented by their evil actions, spoiler: they weren't very nice people to say the least.
Opinions I guess.
>Almost made the connection that ISIS is a mirror of social conservatives.
>Still wants to fight ISIS
Fucken lol. Us leftists are the ones really destroying ISIS. All our peace, free love and drugs is what they hate.
Well, Jews too have a part in the MSM area of the field. But yes, it's mostly other women who shame those who don't participate, and the faggots that sell it to them.
> men don't give a fuck
We certainly don't
What's with you /pol/ faggots raging about degeneracy when we don't live in the fucking 1300s. I mean seriously? you don't think for a second we are degenerate to begging with? using computers, cars, phones fuck everything is degenerate to you fucks.
You want to be less degenerate, go fucking live with the Amish they love to take new comers in.
they hate us for our freedom, so lets get rid of our freedom!
>Islam is not a homogeneous monolith, there is no consensus on theology anymore
You all deny the divinity of Christ and the triune God. You're all manifest heretics based on those criteria alone.
but I really do want to get married and have a family. I'm lonely. I've decided to myself this year a lot, but there's the sinking feeling that I'm genetically impure and don't deserve to reproduce
I agree that would be a better place to teach it since it is unrelated to having sex.
That is an absurd position though. There is a large gap between recognizing the existence of something and providing support for it. If a school teaches about the history of the catholic church it does not imply they are indoctrinating them into the catholic faith.
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.
I don't like to slander or argue with people of the book, it's not productive but yes we don't believe that Jesus (pbuh) is God.
>yes, which is still part and parcel a product of the male-centric conversation of female beauty.
No, faggot. Those industries are run, owned, and operated by women and FAGS.
> and wtf is this about jews and gays? wtf are you even on about you unhinged idiot?
They run those industries. I'm sorry reality hurts.
> they are the SOURCE of this pathology you fool. men set the expectation and the precedent for this unreasonable behavior
No, they don't. That expectation is smashed into their brains at 10-12 years old for over 10 years through pornography.
> (what does that mean? do tell!)
Women staying at home and raising children? I don't see what that has to do with the way they look - other than the fact that they'll no longer look like prostitutes.
> at the same time proscribing the behavior.
It's what's best for them: stay at home, raise children. Women have zero control over their lives in the workplace, political sphere and world at large. They have an illusion of control, but in the end they are just confused little girls.
> in a just world they would make those determinations themselves.
See, this is the problem with your entire argument and worldview. This very axiom is what your entire worldview hinges on. Women are not capable of making those decisions themselves - they will only lead themselves to misery, absurdity (modern Feminism) and depravity if left to their own devices.
Everyone knows this. No one wants to say it. Women need strong men leading them. Now, if you're a woman - I shouldn't have even bothered with this conversation. If you're a man - you're the problem. You are one of the weak, lost men who is enabling women to destroy themselves - and take the rest of us down with them in the process.
I'm done talking to you. Have a nice life being a fucking idiot.
>Islam is not a homogeneous monolith, there is no consensus on theology anymore.
Sounds like a mess. Christianity is no different, though.
Religion will always turn to shit if left to plebs & women... what can you do?
I, on the other hand, have no problem calling out heresy? You may be a fine person, I have to think so until proven otherwise, but your beliefs are heresy and your prophet was a liar at worst and misled by the devil at best.
I know mate. People just like to use them as evidence that
> da Christians are ebil
Heh heh, lefties are always spouting out about how "Trump is encouraging terrorism" but it is the sacred cows of liberalism that is enflaming Islam. Radical Islam considers the liberal West as "Jahiliyyah" or depraved/decadent/diseased. Secularism, paganism, feminism, gay-rights, sexual-"wantonness", etc are reasons used by the Muslims to put the sick Westerner out of their misery.
>Us leftists are the ones really destroying ISIS
> destroying ISIS
> pissing off ISIS and fueling their campaign videos so they get more recruits is destroying them
> It's 2020, Donald Trump has been re-elected
> ISIS is still around but very small after being nuked into oblivion
> still making recruitment videos:
> we will destroy the degeneracy of the kuffar!
> uh, Ahmed? What degeneracy? They seem to have cleaned up their act
> Oh, well.. uh.. we will ... uh.. fuck
> freedom to be brainwashed and donate your life to all these degenerate social memes and movements which lead to a police state in which there is no longer any freedoms
Fight it Americuck - you're going to lose your first two amendments if you don't
>So I was talking to some people today about Islam and what we should do about it
Expel Islam from the West.
It's us vs. them. Only retarded leftists think otherwise.
If we don't do something soon, the only solution to the Muslim problem will be the Final Solution.
there is just s much horrible absurdity in this boiling turd of a post, i don't even know where to begin. should i start at the weird gay-cum-jewish feminine beauty illuminati? should i explain that his conception of "traditional womanhood" is in fact a brief and very recent western invention? should i literally have to explain to him that women are actual living, thinking human beings and not flailing toddlers, because that appears to be at the core of his issue.
>There is a large gap between recognizing the existence of something and providing support for it.
Do you not see that there is a "Student Response" which they must guide the student towards?
Do you not see that they are encouraging students to become sexually autonomous when barely out of middle school?
This curriculum was signed-off on by a convicted child pornographer and a menopausal lesbian; try not to forget that detail.
funny you said that, the only girl I've ever dated was a Bengali ex-muslim. Decided never again because her father had recently decided to return to Islam. She wanted us to get married right away (while still in college) and I was too scared. Don't think I'll be doing that again
> women are actual living, thinking human beings and not flailing toddlers, because that appears to be at the core of his issue.
You're right, except for the "thinking" part.
Women do as they're told - hence the mass adherence to this program of Feminism, MSM, Fashion & Beauty, LGBT etc...
> should i literally
Go back to Reddit, please.
>...so? women internalize misogyny too, you intellectual midget.
> made up words as an argument
> imblying women aren't happier raising children and being at home, instead of dressing up like painted up whores every day to work for eight hours - while their ovaries dry up and they get pumped and dumped by Chads every weekend.
> GET EDUCATED LEL
Found the Feminist.
I don't read propaganda from groups who behave like apes, demand special treatment, and destroy civilization.
I just asked her what she thought of "internalizing misogyny" and her response:
> what? what does that even mean?
> like.. I hate myself? because I love my life
You're so retarded, lady.
This is so true and why i support trump ill be voting for first time even though been old enough to vote last 2 elections. I never felt so strongly about politics before but now i realized how much the liberal media lied to me growing up. Why all the anti-christianity? christianity is responsible for all our civilized western culture. why would we let syrians in? I feel strongly about this that I wrote a song about it
FYI I have a bachelor's degree in Philosophy, with a minor in Psychology, a bachelor's and master's degree in Pure Mathematics, and I'm currently working on a PhD in PMath.
Have I learned about Feminism? Yes, indeed. It's kind of hard to ignore the loud cunts, isn't it?
> my mother
Well, my mother is also a housewife who is subservient to my father. So..
i am a feminist. but only you think it's an epithet.
>I don't read propaganda
well this certainly explains your embarrassing ignorance. a serious person would have read the seminal feminist texts before showing his ass in public.
> what? what does that even mean?
> like.. I hate myself? because I love my life
your poor wife. she understands the concept of misogyny about as well as you do.
this was back when I was totally bluepilled, 4 years ago. I probably wouldn't be extremely opposed to marrying an Indian though, since they are very traditional but lack the Islam.
did i call it or did i call it. it's not a coincidence that you found a hard science to be your natural calling. people who have a hard time understanding the complexity of other humans tend to excel at dry linear logic instead.
protip: your specialized knowledge does not mean that you are knowledgable about everything. and btw your bachelor's degree dabbling in (likely) unserious philosophy is not worth remarking upon.
Tbh, go for a Sikh. I have a lot of Sikh friends and they are extremely cool people. Their women are modest and pretty red-pilled.
I don't know much about Hindus/other Indians so I can't say anything about them.
>excel at dry linear logic instead
> bachelor's degree in Philosophy, minor in Psychology
> linear logic
> Pure Mathematics
> fractal geometry, harmonic analysis and dynamic systems
> linear logic
You're the one who sounds uneducated now, woman.
> i am a feminist. but only you think it's an epithet.
Isn't it? It makes you a fucking idiot - but the rest of your posts made that clear anyway.
> well this certainly explains your embarrassing ignorance
> differing opinion based on nearly 10 years of readings, life experiences and research
> a serious person would have read the seminal feminist texts before showing his ass in public.
No, a serious person ignores Feminists for the whining babies they are, and goes on with his life.
> your poor wife. she understands the concept of misogyny about as well as you do.
> your poor wife, she should be miserable like me
> she has to have KIDS? omg what a horrible existence. she should come party with me and my lesbian two-spirited trans friends at the gay bar
> she understands the concept of misogyny about as well as you do.
Quote from her just now:
> I love the way you see women, it's the exact opposite of misogyny.
>differing opinion based on nearly 10 years of readings
heh, so tell me about those texts you've read.
the rest of that post is some weird fever dream of yours.
btw does your wife know that you don't believe that women are "thinking" beings? i'll bet you left that part out.
and i said i have a J.D. you human embodiment of a wet fart. quebecois. or am i being redundant?
I did make it bro, I made 21 songs on that channel, I uploaded the last one last night its about speed. more songs are about killing niggers and fixing society, and drugs.
No man It slowly progressed to this. I'm still perfectly attracted to women, and only become a degenerate when I'm excessively horny and or drunk. Afterward I always feel disgust
Actually heres a song I made that if you liked the trump one you should appreciate this as well. also the necessary nigger hate truthpill song second.
I made all these on my computer using Reason and a yamaha keyboard to midi sequence
Just quit porn for a week and you'll only be attracted to women again.
better yet try quitting the internet altogether and stop owning a computer, though even I'm not good enough to do that
> investigate the madonna/whore complex and then get back to me.
Look, I'm sorry your boyfriend dumped you because you couldn't please his cock. Please just leave me alone now and go back to Reddit. I'm sick of arguing with you - I know enough about women to know that the only way to get them to shut up is to ignore them.
> btw does your wife know that you don't believe that women are "thinking" beings?
Yes, she does. Your posts illustrate this quite clearly. You attack me based on emotional reactions, and can't even process what's being said.
> the rest of that post is some weird fever dream of yours.
Keep telling yourself that. Enjoy your lonely, pathetic life. Come talk to me at 40 when your ovaries are dried up and you want kids.
yeah you probably are just as attracted to women. i don't doubt that. but you're also just a little sexual ambiguous, and that's actually ok and not really worth the psychic turmoil.
like i said: your wife has internalized her misogyny. however neither you nor she understands what that actually means. which is too bad. i hope you two roil in your misdirected resentment together
and i'm a man, thanks. if i were a woman i would have said so, you predictable dimwit.
i'm sorry sarcasm is lost on you. but then again, so are a lot of concepts.
that's what happened to me after my breakup 2 years ago. Trying to fix it this year by quitting porn and motivating myself to find the real thing and if I can't do it after 1-2 years I will consider the celibate life
The nature of this post indicates that I, as a man, am unable to decide for myself what I find attractive.
Instead I am forced to submit to the 'collective's' standard of beauty.
And you can't see you and OP are the opposite side of the same coin.
Too fucking funny.
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I had a dream the other night where the CN Tower collapsed. It felt so real and terrifying. Since I live in the city the dream was perfectly vivid it was pretty scary. Could this be some sort of vision?
The only approach we need is to kill them and or drive them out of our lands and back to their shitholes.
There is no other strategy and anyone thinking we need something different is a cuck
we're indoctrinated to respond to certain characteristics. we may think we're making objective decisions, but they're informed by an established status quo. this is basic psychology, here.
same, thanks. good talk.
Libcucks won't allow this to happen though. They're the equivalent of a traitor opening the gates of a besieged city to allow enemies to pour in. Get rid of the libcucks, problem solved.
>canadian mudslime thinks he can convert us with this nonsense.
The real problem is everyone want things handed to them on a silver platter. It doesn't matter what the fuck you are, if you're ambitious, skilled, and a little charismatic you can do anything you want. All these movements are people bitching about this thing called life, and wanting a pacifier shoved in their mouths in the form of all this PC, censoring, etc.
>we're indoctrinated to respond to certain characteristics
Sure, but there is no explanation as to why I am more attracted to this particular woman over another when they have similar features.
Biology is playing a role here too anon.
>men are weak because they let machines do all the work
said every non European before he got skewered by the bayonet of an Imperial British soldier.
Shunning of technology = getting dominated by superior cultures
You are both guided by your belief that you can change society to match your ideals.
You both live in a dream augmented reality and you are setting yourselves up for disappointment .
Accept the world as it is and not as you would have it. You will be a lot happier in the end.
So you're a straight male? Is that what I'm supposed to believe?
Why do you support this insanity if you're straight? Do you want to be a cuck? Do you never want to have a family? Are you autistic?
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
no, there's a difference between your sexuality and beauty status quo. you already are attracted to women: that's a biological given. however, WHICH women you're attracted and for what reason is informed by society's conception of what is beautiful and what is not.
Let me ask you this.
If your attraction to women is based on society's preconception, then why the fuck are there chubby chasers?
We should all be attracted to the exact same women by your logic.
See the problem here?
I don't think I've seen you post a single articulate argument once in this thread. Basically all that you've been saying is:
>blah blah blah
>but you wouldn't understand that anyways
Please go back to reddit
today Canada was not a shitposter, I'm proud. All in all every maplenigger in this thread has been good. I just really hope none of you are that one guy who always posts "/pol/ is satire" threads daily
I do agree with you, for the most part, actually.
Except the issue here is that you think I'm trying to "change society to match my ideals". This is false. I want to see society change in a way that men and women would both be happiest - where we are converging to nature's ideals. To our purposes as male and female.
These new made-up roles for women are social constructs (as much as I hate to use that word with a Feminist nearby) and they are only serving to make them more miserable.
> You both live in a dream augmented reality
Not really, I'm well aware of how the world is and I'm also aware it's not actually going to change. I'd just like to prevent it from going even further towards the left - because at least in the center or on the right we're not going to cuck ourselves out of existence.
I did say I'm a research mathematician, though - so living in a "dream reality" is pretty close to my life. I don't have much desire to interact with people in Canada anymore outside of some very close friends. This place is slowly becoming unrecognizable to what it was pre-Pierre-Trudeau.
> You will be a lot happier in the end
I am happy as it is. I am living the exact lifestyle I've always wanted; and the one I am advocating. I surround myself with like-minded people and we enjoy our lives. I decided to make this thread for the first time, rather than lurking as I have for quite a long time... I didn't expect to get a Redditor in here, but what can you do?
I wanted to know what others thought, how they approach these situations in their lives. And I did get some of that - so I'm happy with how it went overall.
Of course, my wife is a little upset now. She had to be reminded that outside of our home, this country is totally against her lifestyle - and she has a hard time talking to any other women, especially other working mothers. She of all women knows best that Feminism is simply oppression towards femininity and men.
> I'm a straight male who supports feminism
> You have a degree in philosophy
> You're a PhD-level mathematician
> You can't even logic, can you?
>I want to see society change in a way that men and women would both be happiest - where we are converging to nature's ideals. To our purposes as male and female.
Stopped reading. This statement is subjective. My definition may be radically different than yours. I'm not saying I totally disagree with you.
I'm closer to the Golden Dawn
Immersed in Crowley's uniform
I'm living in a silent film
Himmler's sacred realm
Of dream reality
I'm frightened by the total goal
Drawing to the ragged hole
And I ain't got the power anymore
No I ain't got the power anymore
I'm the twisted name
on Garbo's eyes
Living proof of
I'm torn between the light and dark
Where others see their targets
Should I kiss the viper's fang
Or herald loud
the death of Man
I'm sinking in the quicksand
of my thought
And I ain't got the power anymore
Don't believe in yourself
Don't deceive with belief
with death's release
I'm not a prophet
or a stone age man
Just a mortal
with the potential of a superman
I'm living on
I'm tethered to the logic
of Homo Sapien
Can't take my eyes
from the great salvation
Of bullshit faith
If I don't explain what you ought to know
You can tell me all about it
On, the next Bardot
I'm sinking in the quicksand
of my thought
And I ain't got the power anymore
>what, you think your "gut feeling" invalidates a century-old discipline?
> century-old discipline
> he thinks Psychoanalytic theory and modern-day statistical & pharmaceutical psychology are equivalent
My wife asks:
> have you told them to die? you should defend my honor
Die, faggot. Please.
The dillemma that you have described can be reduced to the following.
A sword and a parasite.
The West is sick, very, very sick. It has been infected by a parasite, by Marxist ideology, the LGBT, feminist, multi-cultural, anti-white, anti-European, anti-traditionalist, anti-Christian parasite.
At the same time that we suffer from this parasite, we face a terrible and bloody blows from a sword, the sword of Islam.
Islam will kill the parasite, but only by killing the host that the parasite lives within. The West.
Both are our enemies. Marxist ideology can be undone, it is damage that can be repared. We can start over again. Islam is not. It will kill us, permenantly, just like it did to the civilised societies that existed in the middle east and north africa before the muslims turned up.
Rules for classification can by definition not be broken. To break the rule is point out a failure of the classification system. But cling to that broken system. It seems to be working well for you.
>This statement is subjective
It could be, but there is work that has been done towards trying to figure out what those roles are - has there not?
It might not be black and white, but there are certain generalities we can vaguely attribute to our "natural roles".
that is the most weirdly particular suggestion. you're saying that modern psychoanalysis has nothing to do with freudian psychology? that's like saying the discipline of medicine has no connection to anything before the discovery of penicillin. you're just arguing disingenuously for the sake of it, at this point.
also, i like how this conversation has rustled this guy's jimmies so much that it's turned into an IRL conversation between him and his poor wife.
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No one untouched by it, in filth we thrive Darkness sublimated, from this we all derive
Alluvium rising higher, hiding the way to my desire Mysteriously – Falling away or flying free…
Each one of us keeps fighting not to be broken down, until we realize
For one instant my love and my anguish fertilize
Levity mysteriously Washes over me Climbing up out of the water Am I flying high, or falling away like a moment of clarity Lotus transcending out of the mire – Pure…
And when I open my eyes all that’s there to see Relies on every step I took while blind Impossible desire to embrace the child That fills the void you left behind Alluvium keeps rising higher For one instant my essence is one with the sky Levity mysteriously Washes over me Climbing up out of the water Am I flying high, or falling away like a moment of clarity Mysteriously dancing too slow to see Cool fire washing over me
And now I’m flying high… Long enough just to say Long enough just to play through this melody of senses And the shadow inside this hollow disguise
(Water, Earth, Air, Fire combine, fertilize your shadow with light)
Will radiate when all elements arise
>you're saying that modern psychoanalysis has nothing to do with freudian psychology?
Of course modern psychoanalysis is derived from Freudian psychoanalysis.
You realize that you have the reading comprehension of a 4th grader, right?
> also, i like how this conversation has rustled this guy's jimmies so much that it's turned into an IRL conversation between him and his poor wife.
She's just curious what I'm writing and reading. But OK.
>Also, please respond to:
sure! yes, i'm a straight male. i support femininism because despite its oft-misunderstood boogeyman, woman-centric name, feminism is more akin to very reasonable humanism than anything else. it recognizes that our long-inherited patriarchal culture is not only demeaning to women (for obvious reasons), it places men in a position of striving for a just-as-mythical, dumbly specific ideal of masculinity, which is completely divorced from the complications and complexities of lived experience. if you had read any actual feminist texts, you would already understand this and we wouldn't be having this circular conversation.
I didn't even bother trying to point this out.
But "apparently" they are a Lawyer.
I guess the answer is "yes".
oh, i see, you're saying that pharmacology and psychoanalysis have little to do with one another. sorry, but the jury's still out, pal.
and btw are you hitting the keys VERY HARD?
you think that STEM disciplines are the key to understanding human behavior. that's just self-aggrandizing ignorance and i can't wait for this toxic little trend to die out already.
> feminism is more akin to very reasonable humanism than anything else
According to who? Where on earth are these moderate feminists who behave like humanists? Certainly not on campuses or in media.
> Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over acceptance of dogma or superstition.
> Womynz should have the right to kill other human beings if they choose to!
> emphasizes the value of human beings
> it recognizes that our long-inherited patriarchal culture is not only demeaning to women (for obvious reasons)
> it shits all over everything men have built for women, in order to support them and their children - because some unmarried, fat, lesbian women made up some reasons why it was demeaning
> it places men in a position of striving for a just-as-mythical, dumbly specific ideal of masculinity
We agree for once. Not sure what the fuck this has to do with Feminism, though - considering Feminists would like men to be anything but masculine.
> if you had read any actual feminist texts, you would already understand this and we wouldn't be having this circular conversation.
> you just wouldn't understand
More edgelord bullshit.
>sorry, but the jury's still out, pal.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You studied Law, why are you pretending to understand Psychology?
> you're saying that pharmacology and psychoanalysis have little to do with one another.
Uh, yea, they don't.
You have NO clue, lmao.
The former studies psychology from a physiological perspective; neurotransmitters, neural networks, drugs etc.
> muh science
The latter studies psychology from a subjective perspective; with differing techniques and frameworks from different schools of thought - but nonetheless, they are all focused at tackling the problem within the individual's consciousness by means of subjective experience and experiment.
> lel dats pseudoscience, we don't teach that here
>considering Feminists would like men to be anything but masculine.
i like how you claim to decry our established conception of masculinity while simultaneously using said conception as a sacred cow that others (others that you don't like) want to destroy...and that this is supposed to be some tragedy for you.
this whole post is so much ignorance wrapped up in other fatty layers of ignorance that i don't even know where to begin. once again.
but you could start by not putting ridiculous words in my mouth and debate like an adult. or did you never learn how to do that?
>you think that STEM disciplines are the key to understanding human behavior. that's just self-aggrandizing ignorance and i can't wait for this toxic little trend to die out already.
No, I don't, I never said that. Because that would be a retarded thing to say.
Those things will destroy themselves if we just ignore them. They will continue to grasp for attention by being edgy and finding the next taboo to break. Eventually the group/movement fractures for a permanent kill. I estimate ~10 years left before it's normalish again. Relax, save money, have kids.
>or did you never learn how to do that?
> LEL UR IGNORANT
> OMG U SO IGNORANT
> LEEEL WHERE R U GETTING THESE IDEAS? NOT FROM WOMEN'S STUDIES COURSES LIKE ME?E?E?
> SOOOO IGNORANT WOW
> get rekt by logic
> cry OMG IGNURENCE
What am I ignorant about?
Is that not the definition of Humanism?
Or do you think I'm ignorant because I think a fetus is a human being?
> i like how you claim to decry our established conception of masculinity while simultaneously using said conception as a sacred cow that others (others that you don't like) want to destroy
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa.... that's not what's happening mate.
I'm saying Feminists want to turn men into faggots like yourself. And that spells the end. Thank God there aren't too many out there like you.
Again, I think there's something severely wrong with you. You'll never have a happy marriage, happy children, or even a happy life if you continue to see women and the world this way.
My chest feels heavy when I try to imagine your future. It looks horribly grim.
funny, judging from that response you seem to think that your STEM degree means you know something far-reaching that others do not...
but then again your head is too far up your ass to even recognize your own subconscious biases.
i'm not even sure how pharmacology is even material to the topic at hand. neither the other anon nor i even mentioned medication. gtfo here with your manufactured indignation.
you're doing it again.
you think a fetus is a human being. you think that humanism is discordant with feminist ideology (a notion that just picking up a fucking book would disabuse you from). you still have a cartoonish, third-hand idea of what feminism is, you don't understand how feminism is equally concerned with the male well-being, you still appear to have zero working knowledge of a theory that you apparently are vehemently against.
you're a sophist. and a predictable one at that.
>but then again your head is too far up your ass to even recognize your own subconscious biases.
Wow check out this psychoanalyst over here.
Keep talking out of your ass, mate.
> funny, judging from that response you seem to think that your STEM degree means you know something far-reaching that others do not...
Ah, no. Because of my degree in Philosophy and Psychology, and because of my years of reading, I think I know something that a lot of people don't.
Not to mention life experience, spending time with much older men who are wiser than myself - something you should try doing. Except you probably think anything said or written by "old white men" is invalid.
> you're doing it again.
Imitating you, I know. It's fun.
Anyway, I have to go fuck my wife now - she's getting impatient. Enjoy your lonely cuck life of being a male Feminist while I impregnate my gorgeous russian qt3.14 waifu.
Well, I do teach Mathematics.
Bye now faggot.
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