>>59970581 It's nice to go out and explore. Being innawoods is a wonderful thing Mohammed. You should try it. >>59970949 Nope. Neither of my jeeps are lifted. My Wrangler is a bone stock JKU, and my Willy's M38A1 is already close to perfection without any faggy mods.
Cars don't have testicles. Unless you're a redneck who bolts on some truck nutz.
Cars are not male or female. They have nothing to do with your masculinity. Possessions in general do not make you more or less masculine, but they are often used to compensate by the insecure.
A car is a tool. The considerations for a tool, if you are rational, consist of stuff like efficiency, endurance, durability, price and so on. "How manly it makes me look" does not enter into it unless you are mentally a child.
>>59971670 I could do that in my moms Volvo you dumbass... I don't understand why men need to buy a truck that looks like it's ment for war just to get around and occasional drive through a pond or over a log.
Jeeps are objectively bad vehicles. They have poor handling, poor fuel efficiency, poor crash testing ratings, poor reliability, and they are slow as shit. Hell they aren't even that good at offloading without modification. They fail at every reliable metric that we attach to an automobile.
There just ins't an excuse to drive one. Jeep owners are telling the world with their purchase that they lack any critical thinking and prefer to own possessions without any inkling of quality.
>>59969523 It's for the visibility factor "Hey everyone look at me being selfless and noble and pure saving the environment by driving an overpriced miserably ugly and uncomfortable car!!"
Same reason some medeivals wore hair shirts and self flagellated in public, senpai
The modern left is a new take on medeival outlooks Socialism is repackaged feudalism White Guilt and self abuse for the environment are the new religious fervor Global Warming is the new End of Days Cult Even the reliance on Aristotelian rhetoric instead of scientific proof is straight outta da monastery
>>59972321 My JKU Rubicon is basically an American landrover. Gas mileage isn't terrible, and it's a vehicle I enjoy driving. It's strange, but if Jeeps are so terrible, why do they hold their value so well? And I'm not talking about "jeeps". I'm talking about real jeeps. Wranglers.
>>59972837 My jeep has twice that gc, and I still was scraping the skid plates. My wrangler is quiet compared to even my friends 08 Subaru. My jeep is better in the practicality metric by far than your cuckmobile
You guys will argue over the political/gender/degenerate assignment of everything. It's pathetic. You're so ducking insecure that you will argue over the political meaning of which brand of toiletry paper people use. For the record, I drive a truck. A manual 18 wheeler. Knowing all of you, though, you'll bitch about trucking and how gay logistics are.
>>59972321 >Jeeps are objectively bad vehicles. You sit higher and get better vision of the road over sedans roofs. But mostly looking at everyone down and being bigger triggers core psychologic triggers of human.
>>59974150 lmao.. you mean they are already working on technology to make big rigs driven only by computers? ahahaah that's fuckking hilarious. I'm sure with a bit of research and development they can make computers that can judge bridge height.
>>59975533 I also find it strange that such a light car barely manages to scrape 36 (american) mpg combined. My mums Fiat Panda gets about the same, weighs more, has a bigger engine, seats 5 and doesn't need high octane fuel.
>>59974553 >>59974886 I know they're working on it, have been for years. It's far from perfect though. The big issue jus that clearance height is measured once for most overpasses. Over the years, conditions change that make the official brought inaccurate. Also, computers tend to look for the shortest route, which might be longer on account of realistic speed limitations. Mountain passes are a good example of that. All said, if you really want to argue trucking being computerized, that's fine, but it will come at the same pace as personal vehicles doing the same.
>>59969523 >Needing a car to try and define yourself. >Being this pathetically bland and banal. >pic related. It was my first car. >Audi A2 1.6 FSI Petrol, leather seats, sunroof, fast, agile, economical, good for the environment, unbelievably safe, technically reliable and spacious inside due to advanced ergonomics and plenty of storage space. >This is a car ameritards.
>>59977338 I understand that. Self driving trucks are still experimental and subject to flaws, though. Eventually, I'm sure it will be common, but only when all cars are also automated. The biggest problem that trucks face are cars. Machines need the reaction, understanding of surroundings, etc, to drive as well as a human. That will take time.
>>59978549 No idea how, but I guess I just got super lucky. And I bought it about a month ago. I didn't know how to drive manual, but I learned in about 2 days, The only thing that rustles me about it, is that it doesn't have an aux cord connector, so I have to use a shitty fm transmitter.
>>59975283 I bought mine cuz it was cheaper than all the quad cabs but It turns out I really like how dodge made theirs. 5.7L v8 in a little truck and it hauls ass but on the highway it steps down to 4 cylinders and I get like 13l/100km out of it. Best of both worlds, steers like a car and its small enough to squeeze into places and its fast as hell but I still get to sit up high with lots of cab space and ground clearance from a truck, 10/10 would recommend.
>>59971457 Why are all these modern metro cars styled to look like toddler toys? Makes me instantly think it's marketed towards man children. At least give it some real style. I agree that would be a fun city go kart, but it looks gay as fuck. Half the people driving them have corny "IAMSMART" esque license plates.
>>59978831 Take care of it, Jags are fantastic if you keep on top of the maintenance.
>briefly own a neglected 1995 XJR >Picked it up from local Ford dealer for £800 >Gearbox shit itself literally 4 days after I bought it, refused to shift above 3rd >Electronically controlled automatic, got quoted at £8000 to replace it, apparently no way to fix it >Sold it back to the dealer I bought it from for £500 >It's still sitting on the backlot, slowly rusting away
And then I bought a BMW with no rear brakes, followed by a Saab with a bad immobilizer. I really need to stop buying cars for less than a grand.
>>59979132 Damn man, that sounds horrible. I have a 2004 X-Type and the guy who I bought it from had replaced the clutch about 3 months ago, so I feel really good about this car. And the best part is: I paid 3000 for it
>>59978952 Are you not familiar with how tech works? When the m16 was issued in Vietnam, soldiers called it a toy. Now, new cars are compared to toys. This is what future tech is like. Like it or not, this is how it is. That is what we call reality. Get with the times.
>>59979382 X type is a literal Ford Mondeo in a tuxedo, not a bad car but not really a true jag. That said, Mondeos are some pretty good cars in their own right, so really it's a cheap Mondeo with leather seats.
$3000 seems a bit much, but that might due to manual tax in America. I can pick them up in good nick for about £1200 here. (~$1800)
>>59979806 Fair enough, I considered an X Type for my frist car but at 17 the insurance would have been in the order of £300 a month (the car was £900) so I settled on a Hyundai Accent for the same price (and still outrageous insurance of £92 a month)
I might get one a bit further down the line, I've always liked small V6s
>>59979951 Goddamn man, 300 for insurance? If I would have gotten insurance by myself I would have probably paid 200 (dollars) tops, but since I got it with my dad, I'm only paying 138 right now, it also doesn't seem like a bad price, considering I'm 19.
>>59979413 every time I see a ford like this that's silver it's being driven by white trash welfare cocksuckers and it's rusted and beaten to shit and back, and one of the windows is ALWAYS ducttaped shut
otherwise it looks bland as fuck m8. really dystopian in a way
>>59980243 British insurance rates are completely unregulated and highly inflated. It's mandatory (the penalty for not having insurance is a £2000 fine and ta 12 month ban from driving) so the insurance companies know they can get away with shafting us since we have no choice.
Hell, I'm 22 and still paying £70 a month with no accidents, but I do change my car often and they love to tack on an extra £20-30 for changing car
>>59979863 Loved by black panther until it shit it's transmission at 136k. Every nigger you'd pass walking would always look over their shoulder as you passed by, heh. You could always tell which ones had warrants.
>>59980624 I'm not sure if American rates are regulated, but most of the time insurance is pretty expensive. Do you know how much your insurance payment would go up if you had 2 or 3 cars? Here in the US having 2 cars won't kill your wallet insurance-wise, but having more than that and your payment will pretty bad.
>>59981014 When the BMW failed its MOT (road worthiness test, kinda like smog in California, but more in depth and applies to more than just emissions) I tried to get the Saab on the same insurance, so I could drive the Saab while fixing up the BMW.
Both on the same policy would have been a £90 payment up front, plus spiking my payment from £62 to £126 a month. So I went with just the Saab at £92 a month and sold the BMW.
I kind of miss it but i needed a shit tone of work.
fucking "smart car" bullshit > easy parking > cheap to operate > seats 2 > easy to drive in crowded city center
sounds likme youre describing my ride (pic related) except my shit is also...
> fast > fun > reliable > great on long road trips > super badass on windy mountain roads > suitable for operation in back country > not womanish > makes ladies squeal in delight > costs about 1/10th the price of a "smart car" > can be parked in my living room > can be disassembled and rebuilt in a weekend > not faggy.
>>59981247 Hmm? I don't know how it works in different states (I live in LA) but I've never heard of road worthiness tests or anything. I just had to give the insurance people the VIN number and some other basic information like the year and type of engine and I got my insurance in like 20 minutes.
>>59980503 I'm suprised these are in USA. I thought USA had their own version of Ford.
Also that's just a quick pic I got from Jewgle. My one is a very dark navy blue, has blacked out headlights/windows and has a small sensible spoiler on the back.`I wanted to fuck around with moderating it, plus I got it done cheap because my m8s a mechanic. My one looks a lot more edgy and attractive than the standard one desu
They check your wipers, emissions, frame rust, tyre tread, brakes, ABS (if you have it), headlight alignment and some other stuff I forget, and if they aren't within a certain "safe" area your MOT is refused until it's fixed.
It keeps the worst deathtraps off the road, but at the same time fails a lot of good cars on shit like no windscreen wiper fluid, or not enough tread on your spare tyre.
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>>59982398 Yeah, it's pretty stupid and if there wasn't' ANPR everywhere I would just ignore it.
>The high cost may not have been from replacing the transmission, but it may have been from the transmission itself.
This is also correct, a refurbished tranny would have ran me about £6000 plus £2000 fitting. That's not a new gearbox, but another old one ripped out a junker. I don't think I'll buy another luxury performance car for a while, at least until I can actually afford it and I'm not a 20 year old getting wrapped up in OMG ITS A SUPERCHARGED JAG
you know we do have mountains in california. snowmobiling is a popular sport up in the high country during winter. theres even a few places that hire out for winter excursions by dog sled up in the cascades near the oregon border
down LA way, it's all about jet skis, all year long son. bikinis and surfboards and jet skis and movie stars.
>>59982578 Interesting factoid, Ford of Britain was actually far more successful in the 70s, 80s and 90s than daddy Ford, so successful that today the majority of Ford cars on the road in America were designed by Ford of Europe (formerly Ford of Britain/Germany)
The Focus, Fiesta, Ka, Mondeo and Transit are all Ford of Europe designs.
>>59982856 >Be 20 >Have no idea about cars >Buy used jag for £800 from dodgy garage >Gearbox fails >2 years later, American calls me pathetic for not knowing how to rebuild a tranny despite no one to teach me, no tools, no space to do it and said tranny being a notoriously unreliable sack of shit
But yeah, I'm pathetic because of a lack of knowledge that I would realistically use once. I try not to make a habit of buying cars with problems that make them undriveble. This unfortunately isn't America where I have a 4 car garage I can rebuild shit in, or shittons of land. I've got a shitty council flat, a parking spot and a tiny shed that barely fits my Saab leaving no space to work on it.
I do maint on the side of the road, but major fixes are out of my reach, unless you want to donate all the books and tools I'd need to refurbish a 25 year old gearbox that's probably never seen a fluid change.
>>59979581 Circle headlights, and cigar shape bodies should be hailed as the classical architecture of car design. Stylists are so obsessed with progression they are willing to turn everything shitty in the name of progress.
>>59982578 >Protip: Ford is an AMERICAN company. I already know this, but I didn't know they made the euro ones in USA, let alone drive them
>ohh yeah, Tossers. Someone obviously found out their milk was out of date this morning.
No, like I said, it has sensible moderate spoilers. I went for more of a classier look than what some youth would go for, you know, Making it look totally stupid like they do. Also, I forgot to mention mine has very thin chrome lines on the sides, and on the bumpers.
>>59983222 > be me > 12 years old > crouched with gramps' under his el camino replacing the starter motor > be 16 > out in the desert replacing a broken leaf spring with gramps > be 18 rebuild my first engine and transmission > '63 dodge dart GT w/ 225 slant 6 and pushbutton shift automatic > be 20 > restored first motorcycle, 1972 Honda CB750 cafe racer
>>59983577 >be me >dad doesn't know shit about cars >grandad is dead on both sides >No one to teach me about cars >Didn't even get interested until I was like 19 >American with mountains of help calls me pathetic for not having inherent knowledge of rebuilding trannys
Where's your excuse for not knowing how to deep sea fish? I was out there with my dad at 6 years old doing it.
>>59969523 Because they are insecure. This is why their cars maximize safety. Of course form follows function, and so the safety design found by toy engineers is not coincidentally the ideal design for an adult sized "safety" car.
1) you foolishly purchased a car without at least having a mechanic look it over 2) when it malfunctioned you didnt fix it, you fobbed it back to the same cock that sold it to you for a 300 quid loss 3) then you did it AGAIN.
that is foolishness. and then you pretended that you were somehow VIRTUOUS because you are unable to repair a car but still try to get a "deal" from a guy who makes his living selling cars for MORE THAN THEY ARE WORTH.
thats what "car dealers" actually do. they dont sell cars. they sell stories the car is a macguffin. he could be selling magazine subscriptions, swamp land in arizona or the eiffel tower.
a "salesman" who sells shit for what it's actually worth goes broke.
and you keep going back for more.
if you cant buy a shit car and make it worth more than it was before then buy a GOOD car and stop crying.
>>59988970 >1) you foolishly purchased a car without at least having a mechanic look it over Yep, I was a retard >2) when it malfunctioned you didnt fix it, you fobbed it back to the same cock that sold it to you for a 300 quid loss What was I supposed to do, shell out a fortune to have it fixed? Take a college course in automotive repair so I could fix it? Spend months trying to punt it on the private market? >3) then you did it AGAIN. No I didn't? Every car since I've bought has been in decent enough condition when I bought it, and all from private sellers.
And well aware of stealers NOW, I'm just noting that at the time I was hopelessly naive and did the best thing at the time and got rid of a car that now needed repairs far in excess of it's worth so it wasn't taking up what little space I have.
You seem to be going off on a tirade, berating mistakes I know I have made, and have since learned from, literally years after they happened. I would even go as far to say you're projecting your own issues onto others, since you're assuming a shit ton that I haven't even hinted at.
> BMW with no rear brakes (easy to fix) > Saab w/ bad "immobilizer" (thats almost always a bad battery)
so no, you lack even the basic skills to service a car, yet dont seek the advice of those who DO before rushing headlong into another foolish purchase.
that you are so defensive, and keep changing your story demonstrates that you havent learned shit and are still a europoor manlet hoping to wheedle a deal on the cheap, without the skills needed to separate gold from dross.
i'm beginning to see why you all hate jews so much. they rarely engage in a business transaction without first determining the cost/benefit ratio
seriously, either stick with your strengths, or Grow Stronger. dont whine because you got gypped and cast needless blame on Das Juden because they dont get gypped.
shit, they werent even the ones who fucked you, that was probably a pikey or a literal gyppo, not a jew.
>>59989984 Doubt it. They're a machine though. I drove the VF GTS, it's got a lot of kick. It's a shame it's going but the Mustang and Focus RS are coming to our shores. I reckon more american makes will see the market potential after they succeed here.
Which I have since sold for £750 (I bought it for £600) and the Saab which has had a new battery and battery wires, which did not solve the problem.
>Lack even the basic skills to service a car
You mean like oil changes? Cause I do them. Or perhaps spark plugs? Also done. And ATF on the Saab, plus a power steering pump on my mates Punto, and also a clutch on it, with some help from his uncle (who has one arm, so we ended up doing the vast majority of it)
And the Saab is already sold, when my insurance rolls over at the start of March, it's going to my dad for £800 (the same I paid for it) so I can move to a ZZW30 MR-2 Spyder for £900 off my local bank manager, which has history dating back to purchase and has been dealer maintained from new.
you just jumped to me hating jews, why did you do that? Where I have I suggested a hatred for the jews? are you projecting your own hatreds onto me?
>>59990346 If I make it big I plan to import a Holden Crewman SS. I saw one last year for £15,000 and I instantly fell in love for some reason.
>>59990873 >Do you blast UK grime with the windows down? Bruv, I have waterproof speakers on the outside of my car, and I blast grime every time I'm in it, full volume. And I start my morning off on the way make my first weed shot with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzU5Q4uI3iw blaring out, and everyone on the estate can hear it, and they know it's me.
Nah, I have a new CD player and mp3 socket put in, but I hardly use it these days, unless I'm having a long journey on the motorway. Other than that I just keep the radio jew on.
Also, I'm quite surprised you know of Grime in the US
>>59997137 is it based of a certain cc? I know back in Illinois if it was under 50cc I think you didnt have to have a license. If it is you can easily get a cheap honda moped instead of riding around that hipster cuck machine
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