Also, what do you think of Turks?
>Do you acknowledge the Armenian Genocide?
Yes, despite The Young Turds not acknowledging it.
>what do you think of Turks?
Roaches that tried to conquer the Christian world, but failed.
They won't get Shekels anyway unless they are Jews, so it doesn't matter. No genocide matter except muh Holocaust.
Remember Jews were the only ones exclusively suffering in WW2 (assuming).
The fact these atrocities were committed against Christians and no one cares really bothers me.
But when one little rat makes a bomb clock the whole world sheds a tear. I'm so sick of this shit and I'm not even a Racist.
>what do you think of Turks?
Roaches that tried to conquer the Christian world, but failed.
Tfw you were steppe warriors 1000 years ago and rule the Anatolia now
Beside that,im thankfull for my ancestor for that cleansing. And Armenians,will you ever stop bitching?
you're good at raping people and killing innocents I'll give you that much.
TURKS ARE THE MASTER RACE LONG LIVE TURKEY! - posted 5 minutes ago from Berlin.
Germany should pull a McClane, claiming the German Empire was responsible and that Turkey acted on German orders, killing the Armenians. We'd pay huge sums of money, suggesting that Turkey, as the partner in crime, ackowledges the genocide and pays a huge sum aswell.
>The fact these atrocities were committed against Christians and no one cares really bothers me.
Oy vey how antisemitic of you, the holocaust was the most atrocious thing that happened, never forget.
The Armenian Genocide happened, along with the concurrent Assyrian Christian Genocide.
It's a chilling foreshadowing of what will happen to the West is we don't wake up to the Muslim threat.
I hate Turkey and wish for the populace to be ejected from Anatolia and moved to Turkmenistan so Christians can repopulate the region.
Those guys at TaleWorlds (Mount and Blade) are cool though, 10/10.
the only genocide that should be taught around the world should be the one committed by Caesar against the Helvetii
68 ad never forget!
there were many armenians in turkey, after the borders were official. And in my opinion they contributed highly to society (they stil do but only in major cities)
Turkish army wanted to exile them all to Armenia, this ended with a brutal genocide. almost 80% of turkish population is ashamed of this so they get 'offended' if you bring this up
>what do you think of Turks?
We vandalize their DITIB mosques, we bully them in school, we beat them for their stupid "muh every turk is a born soldier" shit and let them kiss our shoes, plus we love to deflower Turkish girls.
These Turkroaches only speak violence, that's why we have to answer in their language and destroy their lifes for every life they destroy in Kurdistan.
Whatever their ethnicity is, we must get rid of all anticivilizing fucking Muslims.
What really upsets me is that they killed women and treated them so badly.
I understand killing men and fighting each other but makes me sick to the stomach that Turks and Muslims are so low and scum that they would commit such crimes against women and children. Hits me at home when I think about it happening to my mom and sister and little bro.
I have a question for the Turk. Shitposting aside, since I know there are intelligent Turks in Turkey and you are probably one of them since you post on here. You know about politics and aren't brainwashed by your government I would hope and assume.
Both of our governments are shit and our people are generally low IQ and not well educated. But from your experience, how many Turks are progressing?
Azeris are the bigger problem. They don't know how to read or honor a seize fire agreement.
Seattle. I hate La and LA Armenians
Exactly this. I make money for 6 month in Seattle and then come here and live well without working. It's fun feeling retired half of the year in my 20s.
It feels like the whole world is going downhill. Even America was twice better like 10 years ago.
In Armenia the government is hurting us the most. Lots of corruption. But the people are just simple minded and nice. They want peace already since the last 100 years has been shit, they just want to cuddle up and watch tv and eat dolma in peace. This is why we don't have the energy to have a revolution
Most of the "intelligent" ones who come close to/admit the funocide, but, usually say they have big problems with how Armenians act like they were gods angels who didnt do anything wrong etc. Both sides are revisionist etc.
If you mean with """progressive""", leftists commie traitor cucks who freely admit it, they should just go kill themselves.
If you mean to directly towards Armenians, it gets slightly better by the year (turks visiting the funocide musuem), more discussion/talk about it etc.
I'm from la and I hate la Armenians too, they think they own the place. Dumb fuck rabiz talked shit to me cause I wasn't speaking my native language, I told him to fuck off and he follows me to my car and house thinking I don't see him, he stopped the second I come out with my loaded sig, got in his Mercedes and booked it
hairy greasy unwashed stain on Constantinople.
The origin of all the shit misshapen gypsy-looking balkan admixtures. They elevated manfucking to an esteemed passtime and state office institution. Even though europe has been constantly tearing itself apart and warring among themselves in petty feuds and schemes, european blood, culture and resourcefullnes allowed it to simultaneously profit from, exploit and push back the turks for they are like vermin and cattle. Inspired by western courts they developed their own sultan court in a more ethno-centric direction which led to great innovation in the structure of court and civil office. Namely the position of personal ass-washer for the sultan and his hairiest friends and relatives, which was considered as a ceremonial brother(whom he could fuck) to the sultan's wife.
Well they are keeping constitution talks in Turkey now, Erdogan wants to change the system to a presidential system and if he succeeds he also pretty much turns into a dictator with another 15 years of free rule.
I personally dont have too much problems with him, but his party is very corrupt and full of pieces of shit.
yes i know armenian cleansing.
when ottoman empire was falling and weak, russian backed armenian gangs started to kill civilian turks to establish greater armenia inside ottoman territory.
we stopped them, crushed the rebels and send armenian population to today syria. some of them were murdered by attacking arab and kurdish tribes for looting on their way to syria. vast majority of armenian population arrived in syria later migrated to the usa. this is why there are more armenians in the usa than armenia.
this is the story.
I honestly believe we deserve our land back. Places like Von and Ani. Everything else should be left in the past and like you say move forwards and become powerful together but Turkish government and Putin is fucking that up for us
>I honestly believe we deserve our land back.
Sorry, but alot of people deserve alot of things, and im severly against the idea of even giving an inch back. Its simply impossible with how Turkish people are too.
Its full of Kurds anyway. What are you going to do with them? Deport?
Took you fuckers longer than that to take it in the first place.
You know we are all alike. Religion and our grandfather's wars are what keep us divided
Well if you like it or not the sentiment seems to be increasing. Atleast thats what i think. And i have seen some commie Kurds bragging about how some Kurdish groups recognize the genocide and how Kurds and Armenians are brothers.
They got on my nerve alot, they brag about that, but if you visit armenian land in Turkey you can see Kurds using your churches to keep livestock.
Assyrians in Turkey were able to get some land back by suing Kurds. There is a law that allows you too. You guys should try that, but Turks will get triggered if you try it, i think.
to me, you can take van, ani? i guess you mean agri (near ararat mountain) and other eastern cities. they are full of tribal kurds and islamists. unfortunately this will never happen because 1. turkey is both militarily and financially much more stronger than you 2. kurds (15 million population) already claim their lands
Ararat should be ours also. Your side doesn't even have a good view of it. It is historically out mountain and our holy mountain. Turks don't even care about it. They just want to take it so that they can say "haha in your face Armenians!"
A picture I took from my balcony
dang you are butthurt
also im pretty sure the UK is pro turkey EU
sup bong? its been 100 years now. why are you still mad?
what does this shit taste like? i have a really fucking good restaurant up at school that makes pretty much homecooked tier food, and they have dolma on the menu. Never tried it because the place is a bit pricy but if it's really that good i'll have to give it a shot.
check this shill cunt out, your not belgian your a fucking jew or a turk
>be on my college campus
>see them putting in new art installation in middle of campus
>think nothing of it cause they blow gov money on retarded art installations regularly
>notice it says Armenian genocide monument
>what? Who cares?
>school has relatively large sand nigger population for some reason so figure that's it and go on my way
>some time later
>walking across campus when suddenly all I hear is car horns
>look over and see like 40 cars in a line all turning onto campus
>all expensive ass cars worth over $35k (mercades slr, a fucking limo, maseratti, etc) all rolling in with a massive Armenian flag either on the hood, hanging out the windows, or being waved by fags inside the cars
>literally driving through campus at 6 miles an hour fucking up traffic for people trying to just get to class
>will not stop laying on their horns the entire time
>apparently its the 100th anniversary of the Armenian genocide
>its only 10:15 AM
>no one outside if the cars even reacts to this being a thing
>apparently same day art installation was "opened"
>looks like its designed to be some fancy fountain thing with pathways for water all around if
>literally never uses water
>just a big open thing with a spiral around the top ridge and pillars for support that have some sort of hole in them where the metal meets the pillar with a sign out front in English and sand nigger basically saying "the Armenian genocide happened"
>now regularly see people smoking at it and that's about it
>none of them have been even close to Armenian
1914 yilina kadar:
1.579.000 (patriarch ormanyan)
1.800.000 (ermeni tarihci kevork aslan) ("armenia and armenians", aslan'a gore anadoludaki ermeni nufusu 920.000, clicia (adana, sis, maras) 180.000, diger bolgelerde 700.000, ve toplam 1.800.000)(1914)
1.600.000 (johannes lepsius, alman rahip)
1.475.011 (the french yellow book)(1897)
2.280.000 (ermeni tarihci basmajian)
1.150.000 (patriarch nerses varjabedyan)
1916 yilindan sonra:
1.056.000 (ingiliz yillik kayitlari, britannica)(1917)
osmanli kaynaklarina gore:
1.001.465 (1893 nufus sayimi)
1.120.748 (1906 nufus sayimi)
1.221.850 (1914 nufus sayimi)
yani yabanci kaynaklar da dahil olmak uzere -ki aralarinda ermeni kaynaklari da vardir (4 adet ama birisi digerlerine gore cok abartili ve istatistiki degeri tartisilir)- diyebiliriz ki o yillarda osmanli topraklari daha dogrusu anadolu uzerinde yasayan toplam ermeni nufusu yaklasik olarak 1.250.000 civarindadir. bu sayilar osmanli arsivlerindekilerle de ortusuyor.
simdi sadece bu nufus oranlarina bakarak 1 milyon ermeni'nin katledildiginin soylenmesinin koca bir yalan oldugu ortaya cikiyor. osmanli topraklarinda yasayan ermeni nufusununun 1915 yilina kadar 1.250.000 civarinda oldugu ortada. bu soykirim iddialari ise 1915 ve 1916 yillarini kapsiyor. simdi 1917 yilindaki ermeni nufusunu gosteren ingiliz kaynagina gidiyor ve bakiyoruz. karsimiza cikan sayi 1.056.000. yani 1914 yilindan 1917 yilina kadar ermeni nufusundaki bu dususu katliama bile yorsak, yani ermenilerin hepsinin kesildigini bile kabul etsek karsimiza cikan sayi (basit bir matematik hesabi ile) 1.250.000 - 1.056.000 = 194.000. nerede 1 milyon nerede 194.000. gerci bir insanin bile katledilmesi hos gorulecek bir sey degil ancak buradaki buyuk yalan ortadadir. ayrica bu yalan o kadar kuyrukludur ki dunyanin cevresini iki kez dolasir. devam edelim,
simdi toplam ermeni nufusundan, yerinden yurdundan surgun edilen ve bu surgun sirasinda hayatini kaybeden ermenilere iliskin sayilara geleyim. osmanli arsivlerinden aynen aktariyorum.
9 haziran 1915 ve 8 subat 1916 tarihleri arasinda surgun edilen ermenilere iliskin sayilar:
(sehir, surgun edilen ermeni sayisi, yerinde kalan ermeni sayisi)
adana ......................... 4.000 ............ 15-16.000
ankara (merkez) ....... 21.236 ............ 733
aydin .............................. 250 .............. -
birecik ......................... 1.200 ............... -
diyarbakir................... 20.000 ............... -
dörtyol ........................ 9.000 ............... -
erzurum ...................... 5.500 ............... -
eskisehir ..................... 7.000 ............... -
giresun .......................... 328 ................ -
görele ............................ 250 ................ -
aleppo ...................... 26.064 ................ -
haymana ......................... 60 ................. -
izmir ............................... 256 ................ -
izmit .......................... 58.000 ................ -
kal’acik ........................... 257 ................ -
karahisari sahib .......... 5.769 ............. 222
kayseri ...................... 45.036 .......... 4.911
keskin ......................... 1.169 ................ -
kirsehir ........................... 747 ................ -
konya .......................... 1.900 ................ -
kütahya ....................... 1.400 ................ -
mamuretülaziz ........... 51.000 ........... 4.000
maras .............................. - .............. 8.845
nallihan ........................... 479 ................. -
ordu .................................. 36 ................. -
persembe ........................ 390 ................. -
sivas ......................... 136.084 ............ 6.055
sungurlu .......................... 576 ................. -
sürmene .......................... 290 ................. -
tirebolu .............................. 45 ................. -
trabzon.......................... 3.400 ................. -
ulubey ................................ 30 ................. -
yozgat ......................... 10.916 ................. -
toplam ....................... 422.758 .......... 32.766
yani 1915 yilinda osmanli topraklarinda yasayan ve soykirima maruz kaldiklari ve olduruldukleri iddia edilen 1 milyon ermeninin gercek sayisi 422.758. bu surgunden soyle veya boyle etkilenen toplam ermeni sayisi ise 455.524.
yerinden yurdundan surulen ermenilerin toplam sayisi dedigimiz gibi 422.758 kisi. peki bu surgun sonrasinda kac kisi oldu, kac kisi yerine ulasti? osmanli kayitlarina gore 382.148 ermeni surgun sonrasi saglikli bir sekilde gidecekleri yere ulasmis. yani baska bir deyisle bu surgun sirasinda hayatini kaybeden ermeni sayisi 40.610.
evet surgun de onaylanabilecek bir sey degil. yani insanlarin guc kulanilarak yerinden yurdundan edilmesi akli basinda kimsenin kabul edecegi bir sey degildir. ya da surgun soykirimdan daha ehvendir de demiyorum. hepsi kotu. ancak yasanmis bu surgunu kullanarak yalan ifadeler, iftira ve kiskirtma ile ortaya bir soykirim iddiasi atmak, 1 milyon ermeninin olduruldugunu soylemek de kabul edilebilecek bir sey degildir. ki sayilar da bu iddialarin yalan oldugunu gosteriyor. yani bu iddialar ile ortaya cikanlarin iyi niyetinden suphe ederim. bu arada 1918 yilindan itibaren yerinden surulen ermenilerin buyuk bir kismi tekrar eski yasadiklari yere donme sansina erismislerdir.
diger taraftan surgunun gerceklestigi yillar birinci dunya savasi sirasinda yasanmistir. evet ustune basarak soyluyorum bir dunya savasi sirasinda yasanmistir bu olaylar. olaganustu kosullar oldugu asla gozden cikarilmamalidir. surgun sirasinda 40.000 civarinda ermeni hayatini kaybetmistir ancak agir kis mevsiminin hakim oldugu, acligin yasandigi, salgin hastaliklarin kol gezdigi ve buyuk bir savasin devam ettigi asla unutulmamalidir. bunlari ermenilerin surgun edilmesini mazur gostermek icin veya bu insanlarin hayatini kaybetmesi normal bir seydi canim demek icin de soylemiyorum. ya da bu olumlerde osmanlinin hicbir sorumlulugu yoktur da demiyorum
why would I give a shit about third world armenian people? Sorry Ireland but in America your first or last and if their to dumb or lazy to defend themselves they will get no mercy from the US.
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ancak unutulmamalidir ki yasanan aclik, salgin hastaliklar ve savas sadece ermenileri degil o tarihlerde osmanli imparotorlugu catisi altinda yasayan herkesi etkilemistir. 1914 ve 1920 yillari arasinda o topraklarda milyonlarca insan olmustur/oldurulmustur. ki su anda ermeni soykirimi var diye direten, turkiye'ye bu soykirimi tanimasi icin baski yapan cok sevgili ve sayin ab'li dostlarimiz birinci dunya savasi sonrasi olusan dinamikler ile anadoluya hucum etmis, yakip yikmis, milyonlarca insanin olumune sebep olmus, ne alabilirse koparmaya calismistir. yani aslinda onlar bir turk soykirimi yapmislardir.
diger taraftan gene osmanli arsivleri karistirildiginda gorulecektir ki, birinci dunya savasi ve kurtulus mucadelesi sirasinda isgal kuvvetleri ile bir olan ermeni cetelerince turklere karsi gerceklestirilmis bircok katliam vardir. yani iki tarafta ne beyaz ne de siyahtir. iki tarafin da buyuk hatalari olmustur. ki bence bu surgune sebep olan etmenlerden birisi de -hakli bir gerekce olmamasina ragmen- bir grup ermeninin gerceklestirdigi bu katliamlaridir
sonuc olarak bu etmenler ile savas gibi olaganustu bir durum birlesince bu yanlislar yasanmistir.
simdi arsivlerin kaynaklarina gelelim. bu osmanli arsivlerine kesin bok atanlar olacaktir onun icin bu konuda pesin pesin birkac sey soyleyeyim. osmanlinin istatistik idaresi 1892 yilinda kurulmus. ilk yoneticisi nuri bey adinda birisiymis. 1892 ve 1897 yillari arasinda arastirma yapmasi icin fethi franco adinda bir osmanli yahudisi gorevlendirilmis. 1897 ve 1903 yillari arasinda ise migirdic shabanyan adli bir ermeni kokenli bu kurumun basina getirilmis. 1903 ve 1908 yillari arasinda ise mr.robert diye bir amerikali bu gorevi yurutmus. 1908 ve 1914 yillari arasinda ise mehmet behic adli sahis bu kurumun basindaymis.
yani gorulen o ki, yukaridaki sayilarin alindigi bu kurumun basinda yahudi ve ermeni kokenli vatandaslar ile amerikali bir yabanci da bulunmus. hani belki turk kokenli sahislarin duzenledigi raporlara falan guven olmaz ya... o acidan yazdim. yorum yok.
evet sadece sayilari verdim. her sey acik ve yorum yapmayacagim. cunku bu yalan, ifira, riya, cifte standart ve sahtekarlik karsisinda kufur etmemek icin kendimi zor tutuyorum.
yazida gecen sayilara ve kaynaklara ulasmak icin:
(dh. eum. vrk) dahiliye nezâreti emniyet-i umumiye müdüriyeti evrak kalemi
(dh. eum. klu) dahiliye nezâreti emniyet-i umumiye müdüriyeti kalem-i umumî
(dh. eum. ssm) dahiliye nezâreti emniyet-i umumiye müdüriyeti seyrü sefer kalemi
(dh. eum. thr) dahiliye nezâreti emniyet-i umumiye müdüriyeti tahrirat kalemi
(dh. said) dahiliye nezâreti sicill-i ahvâl idaresi
it tastes like super soft rice with undercooked deforming meatballs, but in a rather different package so you don't get to feel the leaves so much and it doesn't feel like being a force-fed asian child because of the amount of rice. its somewhere in the middle, that i can't really seem to describe. you should definetly give it a shot. BUT, not everybody makes the same dolma, there are different variants and recipes. dolma in your school might be godly tasty or awful, depending on how is it cooked and who cooked it. it is unique.
oh my god thats your acknowledgment? nice taqqiya you fucking rapist, your disgusting.. and your prophet was a nonce.
Yes. But only because it was what inspired Hitler to enact the Holocaust.
>inb4 >implying the Holocaust is real
Of course it's real, you nig nogs. And it was the greatest fucking thing Hitler accomplished.
considering that this is a new flag for me despite autistically collecting rare flags for months now, that's all the proof i need that armenians are so rare that the genocide definitely happened.
yeah that's it post a cockroach picture that's the only thing you do? i wrecked you cunts and you just accepted the fact i wreck you faggots by a posting cockroach pic
posting roach picutr of cockroach is sign of losing a debate
You denying the armenian genocide is about as stupid as americans saying dropping 2 nukes was justified. Nobody fucking cares about your opinion because you're biased as fuck, gtfo faggot.
These girls don't know the meaning of "consent", not to mention Turks don't have sex education at all, these girls wouldn't even know what penetrated them.
Consent, discussions and respect are for civilized people, not for anticivilizing Turks.
Because that's what you poeple are you piece of Turkish shit.
Kek. We're taught about Congo in high school and how our king exploited the area and slaughtered the natives. You fucking roaches still deny what you did to this day, and what the fuck are you doing in my country? You fucking slime piss the fuck off.
How dare you even defend that 3rd world shithole when you are granted the privilege to live in the country my ancestors built. You fucking disgust me.
Kek, nice hypocrisy my friend. You killed millions, you profited shittons of that country with resources. You still have leopold 2 statues in Belgium. Even printed him on your coins.
Protip: Turkey also acknowledges Armenian massacres/deportation, they just dont see it as a genocide. Its literally the same thing as you guys, haha.
You say they are a 3rd world country, but actually more of an excuse for how they act, meanwhile you are an enlightened first world country and you still didnt do a fuck about congo...?
Stay hypocrite, my friend, you are just as low as me, a turk, no, even lower, hahahaha.
oh god are you still trying top kek
Weren't they literally like several 10s of thousands strong? And weren't they heading full speed towards Rome? They were a horde of barbarians in Roman eyes. I think any leader would do the same of they saw several thousand foreigners heading towards their capital (lel not in modern times though). The Romans didn't bat an eye lash at exterminating the Gallic tribes. They wouldn't again for the Helveti.
>posting from western nation
>hurr europeans are just as bad hurr
Then why are you even in the west Mubarak? How's your home country fairing? Probably shitty considering you've immigrated to a European nation you're currently squatting in.
When Leopold exploited Congo it was his personal property, it wasn't owned by the Belgian state. Nobody here respects Leopold and it has been a long time since his head was on any coin. The statues of Leopold get vandalized and literally nobody approves of what he did.
European and (ex)Common Wealth countries are the sole reason you have any form of advanced technology. You contributed nothing to humanity since your shitty pisslam became the dominant religion.
Kek, everytime i mention it you see Belgians like you go on overdrive and shit out excuses, the things you accuse Turks off.
You come in this thread throwing shit, thinking you have the right to do that. A native Belgian, is honestly, pretty much the last nationality on earth that has the right to shit on Turks. And i am not even kidding.
How much was it? 10 million?
It was not owned bla bla, yeah but you profited a shitton from it, no? So? When are you going to pay it back? Or are you going to keep making excuses like Turks, while still acting like you are superior?
Do you know Dante? The Italian writer.
With your false sense of superiotity, your ignorance, how you act, you will burn in the lowest circles of hell. I hope you are not a christian, buddy. But hey, keep going. I spit on your face.
Holy shit LA armenians are so fucking bad
I have friends who went to one of their propaganda filled schools and still have PTSD.
Shoving socialism and marxism down their fucking throats.
I have freinds who have aryan feautires and are armenians. Really fucking gets to me when i see them mary off to some shitskin and have degenerate spawn.
If you are armenian, georgian, and even turkish and are attractive and you have offspring with a shitskin you are raping your race.
As if we don't give money to 3rd world countries to help them develop. You don't even want to help people that are fleeing a warzone in a country bordering yours.
And why wouldn't I have a sense of superiority? You want to migrate en masse and fill up Belgium with immigrants that won't even assimilate to our society and will contribute nothing.
In what way aren't we superior to you? Education, morals, freedom of expression, HDI, standard of living,..
Can you honestly list one thing that is better about your country compared to mine?
>As if we don't give money to 3rd world countries to help them develop.
cool story bro
>You don't even want to help people that are fleeing a warzone in a country bordering yours.
Wut? Turkey took in like 3 million Syrians????
>And why wouldn't I have a sense of superiority?
Because you accuse people of things while you do it yourself.
>You want to migrate en masse and fill up Belgium with immigrants that won't even assimilate to our society and will contribute nothing.
I agree that the world is better if everyone would return home, dont worry about me, my time will come.
>In what way aren't we superior to you?
Your past. Congo. The things you accuse Turks being shit.
>Education, morals, freedom of expression, HDI, standard of living,..
Yes that is true, nobody is going to deny the west is vastly superior to most places on earth.
>Can you honestly list one thing that is better about your country compared to mine?
Atleast we are not cucks :^).
This is a belgian thread now
I'm from a Massachusetts Armenian family and can confirm this. Confirming that California Armenians are a different breed altogether that is. Massachusetts Armenians are nothing like them thankfully.
It's not about how much rape and genocide you waged. It's about how proud you are of it. If turkroaches say they are civilized and are proud of the rape and genocide they did (because they are) it's like taking a shit in a library and being proud of it.