Nothing, because as soon as you have your perfect nazi world all layed out for you, some faggot is going to come along with his commie bullshit and you won't have access to enough opinions outside your little bubble to understand his viewpoints (and why they're wrong) enough to put a dent in his ideology.
>>59828413 Free speech is inherently leftist and subversive. Rightism is the defense of authority and hierarchy. That's why right-wingers usually get the support of the church and the military and other authoritarian institutions.
>>59828579 >Support of church, military, and authoritarian Except not. 1: Churches generally support right wing as they view them as less likely to infringe on them. 2: Military generally support right wing as they view them as more supportive and didn't do things like call them baby killers and try to take their funding every opportunity they get.
On the other hand the left wing are huge supporters of authoritarian institutions as well. Like police department unions, labor unions, modern colleges(no where is more authoritarian than an american university nowadays), etc.
>Free speech is inherently leftist Except for when the party in power is the left, then free speech is rightist and subversive.
Burning books is a defense mechanism for managing the retarded masses. It was a direct insult on behalf of the Nazi's toward their own people that "you are too stupid to read this and become enthused by it."
There has seldom been such proof in history that the people are gullible fuck sheep to the media than the book burnings. It also proved that if you write well enough, you can convince people of just about anything.
After all, there are white women who fuck and blow niggers nowadays after a few years of college programming. We should take it a step further, and see if we can write well enough to make them fuck dogs.
It is, unfortunately, self-destructive to have both laissez faire social policies and democracy. Let's say you set up your perfect democratic libertarian society. Nothing stopping people who are jealous faggots from voting for more and more leftist policies/politicians and eventually leading the libertarian society into turning into a more socialist one.
>>59829240 that's completely counter-intuitive seemingly illogical but I honestly think you have a point.
Look at this for example: http://www.dailystormer.com/total-bro-who-stood-up-against-lazy-hippies-fired-for-calling-a-black-a-monkey/
The reason that this guy was punished was because companies have too much freedom. He's literally being oppressed because the government isn't restricting corporate freedom to fire people with unpopular opinions. He's been punished for thoughtcrime just as much (if not more so) then if the government had banned his ideas and given him a fine or community service for it.
>>59827982 >>59830083 Ideas like egalitarianism have been conclusively disproven by science, yet they're still accepted by millions. These harmful ideas clearly need to be stamped out by force. This idea that we should allow people who hate us and our civilization should be allowed to speak, because they have "human rights" we've imagined, is idiotic. >>59828226 Why not both?
>The literature of Marxism, Communism and Bolshevism; >Pacifist literature; >Literature with liberal, democratic tendencies and attitudes; >All historical writings whose purpose is to denigrate the origin, the spirit and the culture of the Volk, or to dissolve the racial and structural order of the Volk, or that denies the force and importance of leading historical figures in favor of egalitarianism and the masses; >Writings on sexuality and sexual education which serve the egocentric pleasure of the individual and thus, completely destroy the principles of race and Volk; >Literature by Jewish authors, regardless of the field; >Pornography and explicit literature by Jewish authors;
>>59830077 my point is that eventually freedom and tyranny merge, just look at communist countries where criminals were given surprising amounts of latitude because the government only gave a shit about its power just like in the primitive world where the strong rule the weak and where animals compete for basic resources
hurr, encourage moar minorities in porn! only politically correct porn is justified! no degradation of women at all ever! please only buy from these select porn companies! did you know that gays are awesome! so empowering! 4 wimmin. best male porn star is asian! haha.
>>59829906 I get that. That's why libertarianism requires a "principled majority", if you will (a bit like communism in that regard). You need strict protections built into the legal system to avoid such a shift, and the people need to be willing to act accordingly.
>>59830158 Ideas cannot be effectively stamped out by force. Declaring your ideas to be so superior that none else even deserve to exist is the highest for of narcissism. I get that you're just playing pretend edgelord for the camera, but please kill yourself anyway.
>>59830764 No it doesn't. A "healthy" (whatever the fuck that means) society can function perfectly fine in the absence of censorship. If the traditions are truly worthy to be upheld and the people have the information to acknowledge that, then contradictory information won't do shit. If anything, it will help the society succeed, as suppressed philosophies and ideas can be properly addressed instead of relegated to the dark corners of society to metastasize.
>>59830888 >Book-burning is historically proliferated leftist ideology.
book burnings are done by people who want to limit the knowledge of their subjects making them easier to control it has nothing to do with left, rigth or any fucking ideology and everything to do with attempting to maintain power
You know, I used to be horrified by the thought of this, but after sitting here searching for some way to play devil's advocate it occurred to me: > how many cultural marxist and post-modernist books are full of outright lies about history > lies about men and whites > false statistics and anti-science > were written for no reason other than spreading demoralization, self-hatred, white guilt, and mental disease Basically, I realized that the vast majority of literature was written by a Jew or a leftist to try to indoctrinate young white kids to destroy themselves and their own culture. Thinkof every book you had to grin and read in University, then pretend to believe in order to get a passing grade.
>>59827848 Do we actually need ALL books? In large numbers? Maybe their numbers should be reduced to the libraries of universities, not left in the general population like the hate pamphlets they are, for our enemies to copy-pasta and use?
Still playing devil's advocate, but it's scaring me a bit. Does having this kind of garbage out there actually help red-pill people, or does it blue-pill them more?
If you say the former, then how do you explain the baby boomer generation?
>>59827933 > maybe only people who have proven they can think critically should be allowed to access demoralization or cultural marxist propaganda?
>>59831273 >posts caesar's legion in a book burning thread >against book burning wtf. Caesar was a fucking luddite whose civilization had zero technological achievements to its name. Aside from their own diaries and slave journals, they kept no books.
>>59831223 >If the traditions are truly worthy to be upheld and the people have the information to acknowledge that, then contradictory information won't do shit. If anything, it will help the society succeed, as suppressed philosophies and ideas can be properly addressed instead of relegated to the dark corners of society to metastasize. This is rank liberalism, straight out of John Stuart Mill's On Liberty. Let me guess you also support feminism?
>>59831562 Yes, i first heard of it in a book called 'Intelletual Impostures' by Sokal and Bricmont. Funny thing was, I had been made to read Irigaray at University. Obviously, it was some of her writing that didn't sound this idiotic, but it still sounded obscurantist and bullshit, just a bunch of post-modernist buzzwords and made up language to describe some set of unempirical assertions about patriarchy, etc.
Can't find of copy of int. impostures, but here's a review: > http://www.physics.nyu.edu/sokal/dawkins.html
See, this is where I have trouble defending the libertarian idea that all books should be universally available: > this is the achilles heel of all democratic societies > anti-democrats and anti-libertarians exploit liberties to destroy the parent cultures > they use democracy to elect theocratic parties, who then suspend democracy > they use free speech to spread anti-speech and anti-though ideologies, e.g., they create SJWs and "red guards"
>>59827933 Writing is literally a semitic mind disease.
Whites were happier and stronger without the written word. Socrates talked about this. All our "white" alphabets came from the Phonecians who were SEMITE CANAANITES so they could engage in international trade.
the white race came to glory by surviving the elements, but writing turned us into cucks. Oral tradition is where it's at. If anything writing should only be for a select few to keep records for future civilizations.
>>59832044 He has a point. Have you ever read Heidegger or Ludwig Klages? The West took a wrong turn by placing too much emphasis on reason and rationalism, which in turn led to liberalism and decadence. We need to turn the clock back and get in touch with the primordial Aryan race.
>>59832492 >if you were actually swedish and visiting pol wouldn't they investigate you for thoughtcrime?
Yeah your right thats getting us no where
we are not like the UK anon our internet traffic isent heavily monitered its not like i will get put in jail for saying something racist online actually you can pretty much do what ever you want on the internet in sweden aslong as you arent selling child porn or huge amounts of narcotics the internet is a pretty safe place in sweden
>>59827684 All college textbooks. College is a scam controlled by jews. The following subjects are especially filled with jew nonsense: history, biology, art, philosophy, anthropology, sociology, psychology, all humanities, biology, economics, political science (cuck 101), much of mathematics (math is filled with jews and there's so much useless math) physics (at least the relativist trash, it you can't build with it it's jew nonsense) and educational studies.
Reading, riting, rithmetic along with hard work and hands-on experience solves 95% of the world's problems.
>>59833175 In a class of 100 students, how many have enough critical thinking to resist the indoctrination of a cultural marxist misandrist who preaches that penis-in-vagina sex is always rape, and men are born rapists?
Seriously, how many students did you take classes with, who walked out completely drinking the koolaid at the end?
And you can't redpill them, not nearly all of them, and if you try you'll punished or expelled, have your property vandalized, or be beaten up by some ANTIFA goons.
These used to be the people that "defended free speech"; now that they run the government and schools, they are destroying free speech. Maybe free speech is what lets these people in in the first place...
>>59833512 the thing about moldbug that always "bugged" me is that as a nerdy physically weak software engineer, he wouldn't deserve to be in the elite class he wants. His ideology would be sound if HE HIMSELF would be willing to humble himself and live like a serf in his society
>>59833423 "To succeed in their attack against Christian civilization, the Jews of France had to use deceit, to lie, to disguise themselves as freethinkers. If they had said frankly: "We want to destroy that France of old, so glorious, so beautiful, and replace it with domination by a fistful of Hebrews from many lands," our fathers, less soft than ourselves, would not have let this happen. For a long time the Jews kept things vague, working with Freemasonry, hiding behind sonorous words: emancipation, enfranchisement, the struggle against superstition and the prejudices of another age.
Thanks to the Jews' cunning exploitation of the principles of 1789, France was collapsing into dissolution. Jews had monopolized all of the public wealth, had invaded everything, except the army." -- Édouard Drumont (1886)
>>59833131 lolwut? I get it, the social 'sciences' are overplayed in significance and shit on any perspective that isnt progressive enough but you can't be this retarded... 'reading riting rithmitic' doesnt design you vaccines, deliver payloads into orbit, or immortalize your retarded keystrokes onto the internet
>latter part of the current year >emperor trump sworn in as commander in chief >redpills the masses on this new age of decadence, islamic subversion, and how leftists are the ones who enable things like this to flourish >sentences leading cultural marxists to labor projects through executive order, filling the void left from deporting all illegals from vital industries such as agriculture >universities reformed with traditionalist ideals >America finally becomes great again during the real "roaring twenties"
>>59833576 >If you take a course You mean MANDATORY diversity classes, auspai? >that even mentions that then you don't want to be helped. I want to be helped by being able to question my instructors, but we didn't defend against totalitarians with "good intentions" bearing gifts, and now they run the place, and you don't get to choose... > choose to prove you're not a shitlord, or refuse to finish your degree, you CHOOSE
>>59833682 True. As Nietzsche pointed out, the origins of aristocracy are in a warrior aristocracy. The aristocrats of yore were soldiers:
"To be sure, one must not resign oneself to any humanitarian illusions about the history of the origin of an aristocratic society (that is to say, of the preliminary condition for the elevation of the type "man"): the truth is hard. Let us acknowledge unprejudicedly how every higher civilization hitherto has ORIGINATED! Men with a still natural nature, barbarians in every terrible sense of the word, men of prey, still in possession of unbroken strength of will and desire for power, threw themselves upon weaker, more moral, more peaceful races (perhaps trading or cattle-rearing communities), or upon old mellow civilizations in which the final vital force was flickering out in brilliant fireworks of wit and depravity."
>>59834036 yep, the kind that wants me dead because I'm genetically unable to dominate or prevail except in an artificial environment. that's why the truth hurts me so much. I don't deserve to live let alone as well as I am.
>>59834036 > the kind that wants you to dominate and prevail.
but thats litrerally the same kind of totalitarianism that you where defending against then you would just end up with two side of the same coin effectively gaining you nothing exept a never ending cycle of war that ends with the fall of humanity
>>59834151 > the kind that wants me dead > muh holohoax > muh 6 gorillion every 5 years Every Jew says that, and yet you have Israel just like Hitler promised you would. Germans don't even have Germany for Germans, and yet your people have the world.
>>59834434 I hate Israel because I know I'm a fake jew. That isn't even my land. My land is the pits of hell.That side of my family is disgusting and I see it in myself and it makes me hate myself. I don't want the world. I know the holohoax was all fake.
and I wasn't even talking about the jew thing, I was talking about my literal autism.
>>59834586 I've visited Israel, and I think it's a beautiful place. I love seeing Jews proud to have their own nation, their own destiny. I know there are different factions of Jews in the world, and they aren't on the same side. There are Jews that would see Israel destroyed just like the goyim nations.
I would fight beside those patriotic Jews in Israel for their nation, even though I'm not Jewish, because I know the same Jews that are the Internationalists, the leftists, the bankers, would destroy any nationalist.
Half of /pol/ would crucify me for that, but you should be proud of your heritage, even if its only partial.
But I've looked into the Khazar stuff and it makes too much sense. The real Israelites were probably white, or at the very least not at all related to ashkenazis. there's nothing to be proud of, even that's a lie.
>>59834753 haha I'm not a jew but I have nothing against them. Yeah a lot of the ultraorthodox types are pretty backwards and kinda fucked up sometimes but the same is true for the catholics and christians ive been raised around. I've known some IDF men and women and I've honestly got a lot of respect for them as a nation and a culture. They don't fuck around.
>>59827684 >yfw hitler was pro gun control, pro choice, nationalised germanies industrial sector, broke down the family unit, hated jews, was a vegetarian, supported women in combat roles and depowered religion
Hitler was leftist as fuck, information control is a necessary component of fascism not conservative thought. If you want to protect conservative thought from an american standpoint you'd need to ban books on religion.
>"Exhibit A: Autistic shills, ladies and gentlemen." >"Before the Media and Academia Reform Act of 2018, these socially-inept abominations were hard at work promoting marxist ideology on now-defunct social media outlets such as Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook."
>>59835082 >pro choice Only for Non-Aryan babies. Aryan women were strictly forbidden from getting abortions. A sound policy. >broke down the family unit Nazi Germany was pro-natal and encouraged Aryan women to become housewives and rear lots of children. >supported women in combat roles Only when the war effort left Germany with limited options. >depowered religion Public atheism was banned and Hitler was anti-materialist. He wanted to return Aryans to their true non-Semitic spirituality. >hating jews That makes him leftist how? Most jews are leftists.
>>59835511 >still seams like im the one winning here WHat are you winning? The death of your race, culture, heritage? The subjugation of your inherently rapist, evil, backward, devolutionary binary gender?
Enjoy the taste of victory. I hear it tastes like bacon, but that's halal, so no one knows what it tastes like.
>>59835774 > all that communism I love how shy the Leftist editors at wikipedia are about left wing atrocities > there were, um, lots of deaths and burnings and purges, but, umm, GAMERGATE, and umm, here's some other things... HAVE U DONATED YET?
>>59836074 >paragraph about soviet book burnings is mysteriously small
Haha, I chuckled at that as well. I'm honestly surprised they even had anything in there about communist book burnings, desu senpai. They are horrible at censorship despite it being the centerpiece of their bullshit.
>>59836155 >heritage can never die since its in the past as long as it is rembered it exists And yet, you live in a world where most people believe: > 6 million Jews died at the hands of the Nazis > white people were the only ones to practice slavery > they were the WORST slavemasters ever > only white countries need diversity The list of anti-heritage nonsense that has become mainstream is longer than the list of troubling but accurate historical truths being disseminated. Your heritage is already dying and mostly lost. > alot easier to enjoy with out them shackels around my wrists Says the man who can't be proud of being white or Swedish in public without committing a crime, being booed, or being beaten in the street. >The subjugation of your inherently rapist, evil, backward, devolutionary binary gender? > seriously do you honestly belive that cuck shit? Believe what exactly? Do you mean agree with that cuck shit? Of course not, but its endorsed by majorities in your media, politics, and mainstream culture.
> freedom is slavery An elephant needs only be tied to a post during childhood, then it will refuse to move every time a rope is placed around it's ankle, whether it's anchored to anything or not.
> surrender your race > surrender your guns > surrender your universities and jobs > surrender your genetic heritage > surrender your ancestors struggles > surrender every lesson learned > accept foreign truths, foreign laws > adopt sharia, prove you are tolerant > tolerate everything but yourself Surrender to genocide, genocide is victory. Genocide is freedom. The Final Freedom.
>>59836561 Nigga it aint my fault if people wont educate them selves but do you think this is something new? do you think this is going to be the downfall of society? in that case you dumb
> only white countries need diversity dosent really have anything to do with heritage but sure whatever this is what success brings anon accept it
>Says the man who can't be proud of being white or Swedish in public without committing a crime, being booed, or being beaten in the street.
just for you anon i will yell that i am proud of being white and swedish next time im waiting for the buss at centrum
>Do you mean agree with that cuck shit
no im saying its a stupid conspiracy sure it migth work on a few indivudals wich would probably have become faggots or trannies or whatever the fuck you are so worried about but the masses arent going to bend over in unison and let muslims fuck them in the ass because they saw some "cuck propaganda" on the internet or the newspaper or the tv
seriously why did you even link that? you dont think i could go and find some american documentary on "gender issues"
http://www.genderdiversity.org Ohh whats this, not only is it a american website dedicated to genderdiversity they are even begging for sheckels
Go back to your cuck shed Bill
nigga i aint no elephant
>freedom is slavery
So you must live in the land of the slaves then huh... for society to function one can not have true freedom anon you arent free to rape, kill or steal amirite?
what i ment by that is that i am mixed with so many fucking races you can call me mutt i guess
>codeword for monocultural
there are like just a handfull of cultures in the world anon Pro-tip we share the same culture also as the world becomes more connected more global so to say it is only natural for cultures to mix and eventually become one global culture wanna know what happens once the whole globe more or less shares the same culture with a few varying traditions here and there well we can stop figthing pointless wars over land we could just as easily share and you know do shit like create new traditions and culture, enjoy the whole fucking world without worrying about someone killing you for being from the wrong country or getting kidnapped
you see all the conspiracies all the signs of the times you know about the fractional reserve i assume you know the global elite is untouchable i assume
yet you dont know the reasons for any of these things its so they can unify us anon so we can reach our full fucking potential after all we are just a bunch of homo sapiens figthing over lands and superfical things
>what books should we generate huge interest in and a subsequent massively profitable black market for?
Start by burning the protocols, and maybe secret weapons for quiet wars, followed by numerous books on cognitive psychology research, and pretty much anything you want to attract loads of interest and attraction to.
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