>Majored in computer science
>Graduated with 3.6 GPA
>No jobs anywhere
>Working as a cashier at burger king
>tfw falling for the STEM meme
How fair is life /pol/ ?
You dont even know. At least you can make an app or something with your skills. Petroleum engineer here. Might get a job in 2 years if prices go up. Might. Until then im working at target and just trying not to kill myself.
Oh, so you think a degree should make employers come begging you to take their money for the privilege of your company and unique skill set?
Snap out of it mate. The global economy is shit at the moment. It's the time for entrepreneurs to grab opportunities. Stay busy, do some volunteer work. Realising that there are plenty of people worse off than you will improve your outlook, and that will improve everything in your life.
>Undergrad because had to move else where with my parents before I hit 18
>Work at fastfood joints till i'm 21
>Got employed by a friend of my uncle as a parts interpreter in the car industry which I know nothing about
>Work for a year but didn't like it
>quit job and now jobless for 4 months.
You must be the most retarded and socially inept CS major I've ever seen. I spent one year longer on my degree than usual and graduated with poor grades, but I still manage to get at least three job offers a month...
Lol, I didn't even finish my CS degree yet I'm working in the field and transferring to US San Francisco in a few months. You don't learn shit in the class, should've done actual stuff in your spare time.
>I rode through college in mommy and daddy's money, took zero internships, did zero networking, attended zero events related to my degree.
>why can't I find a single job?
When are you autistic retards going to learn that a college degree especially in stem guarantees nothing. You have to actively seek contacts and skill sets to make yourself valuable and marketable.
Yes in some areas there still is shortage and the begging is common. There's a shortage of people working in medicine, econometrics and comp science fields over here looking at statistics from government.
Transferring within the same company, or did you pick up a new job outright? If the latter, that's impressive that they're willing to bring in someone all the way from Finland in search for talent. What's you're specialty?
have to make connections you dingus. i sold my labor cheap and volunteered to get em.
> Go to top 50 school in US
> Graduate in 3 years with 3.8 GPA in neuroscience
> Work menial labor jobs for 3 years
> Finally get semi ahead, although parents have lost house and I have tons of debt from helping them
> Go to top 10 school for graduate program in statistics
> Apply to over 100 jobs.
> Get job. Make slightly less than first year teacher doing research. Shit benefits compared though.
Dude, don't even bother. The best jobs are either owned by rich families (their kids get them), or union jobs with the government (you rob other people for your money).
Well it's mandatory for every student to work in a company project for a whole semester at our university. Kinda like an internship. If you're unable to find such a decent (paying) company, your professor will most likely call some of the partner firms for you...
Often no time for with 40 weeks / yr studying and you're working for free lol fuck internships.
Can be useful depending on event. If you have a shitty event about a boring topic where you have 1-4 people talking constantly don't go.
That's highly dependant on luck
I never met anyone over here who had extreme issues finding a job in his field that didn't either study something very specific or is 50+.
>went to school for learning instead of networking and doing internships
ya blew it
It's not THAT impressive, companies sponsor Finnish/Swedish people to work in US with H-1Bs all the time. Won't be solo there either, two classmates of mine are already working in the same city. I mostly deal with databases.
I'm in a very similar situation to yours, engineer and learning python too. It's interesting, and I'm not sure what a MSc in Comp Science will do. You can easily make your own money by using python from home.
Canada is shitty for jobs.
You failed. Learn a useful skill faggot.
Architectural Engineer here. It took a ton of hard work and never settling.
MSc. is going to add jack shit to your skillset; it's more theory. Better off going to a practical college as they will teach you how it's done and how to apply it. On the other side, some employers say they prefer a MSc. or MEng. but will actually only hire the person with the masters
For CS you don't even need a fucking internship to get a job (though maybe you do for some of the name-brand SV companies), you just need a CS degree and a substantial project portfolio hosted somewhere that clearly demonstrates your abilities. There is a serious dearth of competent programmers and some companies are even willing to overlook certain personal flaws you may have that would spell doom for you as a job candidate for any other kind of job just to get a programmer who knows what they're doing.
>Everyone is going to college now, literally driving down the value of degree's
>Employers notice this and even simple jobs require BS for entry level jobs
>STEM meme means every tries to get one
>Over saturated fields like CS are the norm
Face it faggot, too many people in the fields, retards fighting over code monkey jobs, employers can literally pick the best person with the most skill and all others get shit.
College degree's are becoming worthless unless you're very skilled. Even STEM degree's are becoming worthless.
Failing, blaming those who are there to build civilization. Being a baby.
You are probably autistic as fuck, lack charisma, didn't take advantage of internships or you aren't really invested in your field (going to programming conferences / coding jams / etc).
I have not even finished my degree (same thing computer science) and already got a couple of job offerings, I picked one of them in Australia and that's what I'm doing right now from home while I work on my thesis.
Even with little experience I managed to land a job thanks to some programming conferences and game jams I went to, just don't sperg out during interview, be charismatic and prove you know what you do.
There is no lack of jobs in this field. I recommend you to look outside your city and country even, it's fucking computer science you can work literally anywhere from home.
Don't worry anon. After Bernie gets elected college will be free and all those additional people pursuing degrees now that they don't have to pay anything is sure to make finding a job easier for you.
For not investing the minimal amount of time and energy to increase you success to get a decent job...
Seriously, I hate those networking nights, career fairs and maintaining a portfolio website as much as anyone else, but the positive feeback I get is definitely worth it...
>hide delivery posts
>ignore delivery posters
>dont reply to delivery posters
>Bullshit a who ya know
>At telecommunications company
>be mechanical engineer
>get off my ass and make a precision woodwork shop
>currently shit-posting from a inflatable bed at the back of my growing business
Get a job or make a job, no talent nigger
Software fags. Build programs that accomplish real world tasks rather than aiming at a 2nd life universe of niggers getting in pools.
No, the US economy is shit at the moment because all of our middle class jobs got pushed overseas thanks to the greedy welfare parasites known as single mothers voting for higher taxes on corporations who rightfully leave instead of supporting human shit.
>Graduated High School
>Got job as a union autoworker right out of school
>10yrs seniority and make $80k+ a year with bonuses
>Cost of living is cheap where I live
Probably couldve done better but its not bad
>hurr enjoy breaking your body
lel, this isnt the 70s anymore.
Internship are bullshit don't listen to these fags. The whole fucking higher education has become unprofitable. To become a "wealthy" doctor is to put yourself in almost $250,000 worth of debt. Most don't pass the boards or can't handle the stress and end up becoming a fucking vet.
The whole system our civilization is built upon is breaking down.
I have a masters in CS, didn't even need it. Now I work doing Machine Learning. I get paid a good bit but more over I enjoy my work.
I just feel bad for people who do code monkey work instead of doing something meaningful. Literally anyone can code.
EE opens a lot of doors, perhaps even more than ME. Don't go to a fancy college, focus on getting electrician and mechanics (aka, engines and motors) courses on the side and you'll be able to work with anything from ac control systems to carnival rides.
So yes, go.
I knew quite a few people who got computer science degrees and couldnt find a job. However it pretty much had nothing to do with the subject matter of the degree not being relevant. They almost always refused to learn a skill such as Web Design/Programming, Database programming/SQL, or practice embedded programming. It was always muh Java people that couldnt learn anything outside of school.
Apply to Epic in Madison, WI. I just applied there, got the job, but turned them down cause I didn't really want to work in software. I'm a MechE with no internships and a 3.6 gpa so you should be able to get an interview if you're CS.
>Majored in History
>Graduated with 3.3 GPA
>No jobs anywhere
>Doesn't matter because my parents make around 90k$ a year
>Tried majoring in Electrical Engineering
>[Large series of events that completely fucked me over in school]
>GPA in the gutter
>Owe the school 2000$
>2.5 years away from a 4 year degree
>Can't afford to pay them, can't sign up for classes
>Just got fired from my seasonal toy store job
>Can't find a job
idk what the fuck I am going to do. Funny how your CS and can't find a job. All I see are a bunch of IT positions. Hardware positions are almost non existent or want huge amounts of experience.
>majored in economics
>magna cum laude
>too many fucking jobs. government, big 4, banks
Idk how people have such trouble. I even got a joke degree.
>mfw people keep talking about STEM meme
>mfw I'm a sophomore chemical engineer major and don't any options to change
I make $500 a week doing freelance IT security work on Freelancer and Guru. I have no degree or formal education of any kind in IT. if you work at Burger King in this day and age, its because you arent thinking outside the box.
>C- in intro java 101
>no work history
>no social skills
>refuses to pay their dues and get an internship or any real experience
the shit tier millenial meme is real
pic DEFINITELY related its a mme created for your ilk. rot in hell kiddo I wont hire you hahahaha.
t. Successful Gen Y'er
"Sr. Analyst" aka I sit around on my hands and browse the internet all day. Pretty comfy
I guess it helps when your upper management team and colleagues think the work you do is actually hard when all it takes is common sense and some Excel 101 skills.
In my country you have 2 versions of universities one more practical one more theoretical. Theoretical degrees earn more and are more appreciated in general and often are harder to complete they don't need to do an internship. With every practical degree this is a must. From what I've seen on the work floor they often get forced to work harder than everyone else while getting paid nothing.
That's why I say screw internships. There are not enough internship spots for some of these practical degrees which just promotes treating interns like garbage.
If you do a decent degree and look representative you shouldn't have too much problems finding a job on level with exceptions of specific degrees and old age.
That's nice OP. Meanwhile I dropped out of community college and make 70/hr working as a consultant two years later doing what you spent 4 years "learning" how to do.
Degrees mean dick, that github better have something worth shit on it.
I do it to path the way for future development. And hopefully I can make a break through and make my own buisness off it.
Currently own my own business installing automation in houses.
worst part is in my opinion is that there are some schools that just fucking print out degrees
ChemE is considered one of the hardest majors at my school. I put in the work to be a top quality engineer but I'm just going to be swept away in the mass amount of degree holders
> Went to community college and got a 2 year associates degree.
> Told myself to abort future college
> Became an electrician
>making 80k a year
> I educated myself to not go into debt for a job that is not promised to me
> Mfw I hear college fags complain about not jobs and their debt
TL;DR I am a winner
I know that feel. When I first started I just wanted "An easy degree" I worked my ass off in college and managed to get a back end dev job. But I was still working for very little not to mention anyone could do my job. Programming is easy as fuck. Alot of kids realized this and now it's almost impossible to get a job doing it.
Hopefully you find a job before Bernie gets elected and makes degree's completely worthless.
lel you must be really socially retarded.
>software engineering degree
>below average grades
>paid of university by earning from co-op jobs (that university found for me)
>employers literally sucking my dick as soon as I graduated
>90k starting job and getting a raise next month
You probably went to some unknown irelevant uni
you either developed no social skills in school, did not do any internships, or are not willing to move where the jobs are
you are self loathing and have defeated yourself. Life owes you nothing, you bought a lie instead of going after anything, you thought it would fall in your lap.
I fell for the stem meme... only made 800k
You majored in computer programming. It's really a tradeskill, like automotive or HVAC or something.
You probably should have realized it was not a real science when you only had to take up to Calc 2.
If you didn't at least take elementary diffeq, you're not STEM.
Even then, it's questionable...
I worked for Bethesda working on their AI for the games. I was part of a small team because AI for video games get so little attention compared to the graphics department or the people who do stanadard coding. Hours were shit, unorganized, and pay wasn't even worth it.
While I was in college every CS Major wanted "Muh vidya"
I got lucky big time.
>met my current fiance 2 years ago, she studies Law, I'm in last grade of high school
>finish high school, become Computer Technician
>get a job as a junior web dev (30k starting)
>4 months later get a position at a much bigger company as a Front End Developer, 50k a year currently
>been living in a sweet ass apartment for the last 4 months, bought a Weimaraner puppy
We're engaged, she's 22, 5'5" with D tits.
It depends who your manager is and how your team is structured. There's people within my org who work 9-10 hours a day and then may work even more when they get home.
Meanwhile, I walk into the office anywhere from 9:30 AM to 10:30 AM (manager doesn't give a fuck since I always get my shit done) and once 5:30 PM hits I close my laptop lid and leave.
I guess if you're doing actual coding or QA you're pretty much fucked with a shit work/life balance since it's always "crunch time" for you. If you're on the publishing side you have a better chance of avoiding that hole.
>straight A's in high school
>graduated with honors
>fuck off kike
I get alot of business leads through my voluntary work, not to mention meeting contacts that are handy to have like cops and other professionals.
For a board that promotes good values, some of you are pretty fucking lousy.
Yes, personality a social awareness is very important for any job, but the programming field is unique in its unusually high tolerance for sperglord and their repulsive habits. It wouldn't be this way if there were more competent programmers on this planet however.
>all these wagies leading a life of pure suffering
Will they EVER learn?
>You don't learn shit in the class, should've done actual stuff in your spare time.
Can confirm. Shitposting on /pol/ looks great on anyones résumé.
>dropped out of college for job opportunity
>$50k/yr+bonus doing logistics
Sure it's not a ridiculous amount but life is great so far and we had our company Christmas party on a yacht this year.
Your silence speaks volume OP; you don't list your skill set because you don't possess a skill set. Those without skills don't get hired, and with regard to CS, these are skills you could've developed on your own but didn't. You have no one to blame but yourself.
The State of Texas will hire literally anyone with a clean criminal record more than $30,000/yr with the full gamut of benefits and more paid time off than you can actually use, and the job doesn't really require anything more than filling out a bit of daily paperwork and yelling at niggers.
Training is a complete joke and only takes a few weeks. There are dorms at the training academies and at many of the units, and there are also $4000 bonuses for anyone willing to sign a contract to work at an understaffed facility for a year.
The job kind of sucks and the pay could be better but it's one of the only jobs out there where it's a guaranteed hire, you get paid a living wage, and being racist at work is not only not going to get you fired, but is expected.
All you have to do is sign up for a testing date and show up at the testing center.
OP, jobs are everywhere for you CS people.
1. NETWORKING (ask your friends to help you out)
Trust me, that's how me and my friends all get our jobs lol. I know dudes with under 3.0's getting engineering jobs... you suck OP.
Hi sir - I'm an engineer in his 40s who interviews candidates.
Either you are fucking trolling or you don't deserve a job. You look like you avoid doing anything beneficial if you can speculate even just a little that it might be more trouble than it's worth. I would never hire you just on the basis of your first excuse much less the next two. I don't hire people based on skills as much as attitude (because a person with the right attitude can build skills quickly) and your attitude is shit. You need to take risks to succeed and you're not willing to take any - and guess what, someone else will.
Those stats are skewed by companies listing jobs with absurd requirements and shit pay then registering the 'shortage' with the government so they can bring in foreign workers on visas and pay them less than market rate.
>Be computer/electrical engineer dual major
>Be surrounded by foreign poo-in-loos and chinamen.
>that feel when you have defense contractors kicking down your door because said foreigners can't get clearances.
Its really nice having an exclusive labor market.
Lmao sucks to be you. Shoulda tried harder faggot.
Nobody employs unknown people here if the job in question is entry level shit
everyone employs their sons, friends of their son, friends of friends, etc. They are too afraid of getting sued
>Do you have any advice on someone who wants to go back to college and get into engineering?
Just keep shitposting, that will do, piggy. That will do.
Sounds like bullshit OP
I had tons of options open once I graduated and all over the country too. my GPA wasn't even that good either, only a 3.3
>graduated in CS
>held two different internships during school
>semi-regularly had coffee with people with people I met from companies around town
I knew people who never had internships and never networked who got jobs out the gate too.
If I remember, it was possible to skip calc 3, at least where I went to school, but you would have to take other classes like linear algebra and cryptography
>Advice on how to be sure I get a job you idiot.
Keep track of your shitposts and be sure to mention them in your job application. It's not that hard.
The "T" in STEM (technology) often includes majors that don't require any sort of calculus courses. Technologies degrees like IS, IT, engineering technology, etc, don't require calculus.
There are plenty of paid internships, especially in a good field like computer science. For the most part unpaid internships are the how the market cucks shitters in social science majors.
>got a CS degree with a 3.5 GPA from a college literally listed on most lists as the worst school for CS in the entire country
>got a job immediately out of school from the first place I interviewed at pretty much solely because I had the degree
I don't even have any real skills. What are you doing, OP? This field is starving.
That is pretty shitty. I'm waiting to see comp sci grads switch to nursing.
From cleaning up nigger coders "cuz of affirmtive actun" mistakes, to cleaning seniors assholes.
At least you'll never have to worry about finding work with all of the boomers clinging to life over the next two decades, and Gen X'ers who are sure to die early due to being facebook fatfucks.
Want my boss's mail so you can argue about it :D?
I'm not making excuses I'm stating my experiences those events were basically extra lectures, completely useless. Internships = working for free I would never do that.
>Graduated in 2013
>Did fairly well (forgot my GPA but I was pretty well off)
>Didn't once think about networking or anything
>Just went to school, did my work, and came home
I've got a part time job now that I'm trying to turn into a full time one, and I've got a job opportunity coming up here soon in my field.
I honestly fucked up big.
I have a high position at a big insurance company.
Philosophy majors can actually fucking think for themselves, they're not pathetic STEM monkeys who learn one specialized skill that may or may not even be relevant once they graduate.
There's a reason philosophy majors are #1 when it comes to entrance exam scores for law school.
I ended up working in network administration. You can't undercut the Indians so unless you have some connection I don't think you're going to be working as a programmer.
System administration is still largely a field for us crackers too.
Working for free? I study Finance and my internships paid €2100 - €4000/month. The first one was in a big4 "sweatshop" firm but I got paid for overtime. The latter was JPMorgan in London but I wasn't paid for overtime and I worked like 12+hrs a day
You mean industries failing. The companies don't move.
It's just business, dude. China is an emerging market. Companies work lower profit margins, workers paid less, and yes some subsidises to certain industries. You really don't want to replicate their situation in the US.
You can't blame the government any more than blame companies for not footing the bill for costlier American manufacturing.
Very simple. Electrical engineering overlaps significantly with computer engineering.
Same basic (Statics, materials, advanced math, thermodynamics) and advanced (Circuits, electronics and signals) courses that are required for both, while learning a bit more physics and mechanical theory for the electrical engineering degree and a lot more computer science for the computer engineering degree.
Not gonna lie though, this shit gets really fucking hard near the end, holy shit its bad.
>You cucks know internships used to all be paid, right?
>mfw this dumb nigger will turn down an intership from google or any other big companies because he "doesn't want to waste your time"
nigger you're also suppose to make connections working as an intern, of course if it's a small business dont do it for free
I'm finishing my MS in EE right now. Had a 3.7 GPA in my undergrad but barely made it out alive from a VLSI integrated circuit design course this term (got a B-). The good thing is that most recruiters look at internships and projects more than grades as long as you're over a threshold
Yeah, just go, don't dither any more. I noticed you said this:
>Kind of want to go back to college to get a degree but I'll be like 30 by the time I'm done.
This shows that you worry if something will be worth it before you go for it, which seems to say that getting up and doing something causes you a lot of pain, which is a major cause of procrastination. DON'T WORRY YET, BECAUSE YOU CAN GET OVER THAT. Just see each time that you find yourself thinking that way as an opportunity to fight it, and after a while it will be a habit. Read the Albert Ellis book on procrastination and others that will help you.
Getting started late is not necessarily a minus if you can demonstrate that once you decided to do this, that you have a record of decisive action from that point, and it's not just part of a pattern of dithering and procrastination.
When you're in college, join clubs like the student ACM or IEEE and make sure you're doing more than the minimum necessary. Make work for yourself just to see if you can do it. See tasks as interesting challenges, that sort of thing. Join a hackerspace. And try to get an internship every time. I also suggest the GTD time management system.
Just start now, 24 isn't that old. You don't want to be looking back when you're thirty having done nothing.
Linear regression isn't machine learning you cuck. Neither is any ARCH process which "continuously updates" the regression. Not even binomial regressions like Probit/Logit which tries to "predict" into which of two categories a variable fits.
Are you sure you don't mean Support Vector Machines?
t. Finance guy who is schooling you idiot
Do you even have a single certification?
Degrees in the computer filed literally mean shit. Biggest kek ever.
Also I'm feeling you didn't try hard enough. My brother had no internship, got a job right out of school, has worked for multiple major companies, and he went to Central College in Iowa.
I've got a class mate (ITNA) at Best Buy who's gonna be making 14$ when he gets his degree, once we get more certifications we can easily look at 30-40K a year.
There's tons of tech jobs, everywhere. I live in fucking Iowa, and I'm not worried about getting a job/internship at all when I graduate, and I've done half the schooling you have.
Help me out guys
I recently switched from comp. sci to Petroleum and Natural Gas engineering with a minor in geophysics. Does anyone know how the job outlook for PNG E grads will be. I'm at a top 50 school for engineering btw
>linear regression isn't machine learning
top kek fag
although I agree it's odd for a quant firm to not be using machine learning to it's fullest extent.
Do you finance dorks use Deep Learning for anything? I've been wanting to create a stock trader that only looks at news articles to make decisions to see how it would do.
>falling for the STEM meme
>choosing college major
>want to impress /pol/lacks with how smart I am lel XD
>better choose comp sci cause that's what smart people do
>no desire to improve yourself as a thinker and programmer
>sit in class, do bare minimum work
>don't get internship
>don't make connections with professor and other students
>don't do research outside of class
>don't attend lectures for fun and don't participate in the arts as an extracurricular
I'm sick of you people. You didn't "fall for the STEM meme". You misinterpreted what the STEM meme is. Should have read the brochure, cunt.
I'm not a quant. I'm in fucking management consulting of all things. I wave my hands around for a living.
And yes, there are algos for news articles. When Financial Times recently accidentally released an article on the Fed NOT raising rates (although it was virtually certain they would), the algos went berserk for a few minutes while all human traders realized it was an error.
Same here, clerk at a grocery stores
>tfw even ex classmates who went to liberal arts colleges have better jobs than me, work less and earn more
>tfw even accountant trashbags can get a decent job but I, a STEM masterrace can't because everything is over saturated
You don't have to act on worry. Seriously, your feelings will do all sorts of bad shit to you. But if you want to let them run your life then I can't say that you aren't getting what you ask for. I think you have anxiety issues and your life will improve if you work on those, and you can start by acting against your worry here. If you don't want to do that, then live with the consequences I guess.
>double major in Economics and Applied Math at best school in Mexico
>recruited months before ending studies by the Crédit Suisse at New York
>making over 120k first year and that's without benefits
I did work my ass off for five years, had practically zero social life, and did a couple of unpaid stages during the summers.
That's why you do research before you devote FUCKING YEARS of your life to something dumbass
The only degree in STEM that will never fail you is Engineering(real engineering not computer faggot)
It can be applied to so many different fields it's almost laughable
Serves you right
>Majored in Philosophy
>Minored in British literature
>Working a 150k job in tech and java script looks like greek, to me
Be able to write a complete sentence, and also talk to human beings.
It's fucking crazy how rare those two skills are.
Political Science here. Yes, I'm that retarded. Had a easy job working for a software company for a little over 2 years until I got laid off last month. Now I'm unemployed and wondering what the fuck to do. Might try to join the AF as an officer as a last resort. At least then my degree won't go to waste and I can see the world.
No there's plenty of work (8 hr days are very rare), the salary is good and there is actually quite a lot of career progression. Also you can move quite easily to related industries like investment banking (M&A) and private equity (what Mitt Romney did). Also a lot of people leave the big firms (MBB firms or Big4) and start their own shops once they have experience and client relations.
>Often no time for with 40 weeks / yr studying and you're working for free lol fuck internships.
More like lol fuck free experience, dumb anon. I would have begged for an internship, free or not, if I got one. I did MechEgr and there were plenty of opportunities given to me in the Business field. I got blessed with a job related to my career, but if I kept going for a few more months of job searching I would have taken one eventually.
>>tfw you realize that the push for STEM and tech jobs was an ingenious conspiracy by Jews and corporate/gov't masters to get smart white people away from the spheres where they can sway culture and political opinion
And this is why the leftists won the universities. Because fewer and fewer smart conservatives took risks to fight the culture war.
this feels horrible for me as an engineer but it's the red pill.
Basically same situation here. I graduate at the end of next semester. Weighing options. Wanna fuck around for two years, then maybe join the military. Maybe. Wouldn't mind working US Marshalls...ugh this blows
Yup can't deny that
All private colleges in India are basically money printing machines. In some colleges you can even pay the college to pass you in exams without having to sit for it
Lying in bed so its kind of a nuisance to type long msgs. But depending on what Im doing it might be just fucking around with excel and the firms financials to get a grasp of our target. It might be doing powerpoints/documents on what we've found. Interviews with clients & presentations. I'm more of an M&A/valuation guy so I mostly look at their documents and fuck with excel, and complement any information gaps through management interviews. More senior guys go through what I've found, we work a solution and I plug it in to see how it'd fare, then we look at the result, revise etc
>get bio degree
>easiest of all 'stem' fields
>work in professional environmental consulting for a bit
>finally just get a call center sales job
>just about $55k a year with my sales
That's pretty different from my perception of management consulting. I thought you guys focused on PowerPoint, visiting sites, fixing poor management problems in various organisations. What you're doing sounds like your a financial analyst, Thanks for the help Finbro.
Do an internship (I didn't, but should have) and learn how to bullshit your lab experience to sound better to interviewers. Not saying to lie but use specific wording and phrasing to describe things on your resume. You're trying to catch eyes and then convince them you know and have done shit they want,even if you havent
you have to work for free for a while to get experience, you fucking retard. i did it during the end of my first year of study (doing a law/commerce degree here in australia), and as soon as i came back, i got part-time work as a paralegal. been working as a paralegal since January 2015, being paid $27/hour.
how's it feel to know you're an idiot?
desu it's pretty awesome. It's outbound (me calling you) so they don't track every second you spend off the phone if you're meeting/exceeding your target. half the office browses facebook or watches pleb movies on netflix. everyone's like 20-30, lots of drinking after work. I figure I can do it for a good while and come out having 1-2 years of sales experience on my resume, then go into medial/pharma sales since I do have a bio degree.
buy yourself a bird, and you will see
the most important thing is, eating and being happy
to do so you need indipendents, inform yourself
where you can be comfy forever with just lil effort daily, and dont fear that youll die alone, even if thats not a bad thing
you will always find your love if u wont be egoistic
>associates degree in chemistry from community college
>applied to 3 Craigslist ads with incredibly casual sounding email
>one calls me 2 days later and offers me the job over the phone
>40k + benefits, thanks stem meme
Now, where the fuck did you graduate?
Ya. Track your numbers. Its super important for future interviews and getting your resume past the HR filter in other jobs.
After I was able to fudge a couple years sales numbers and customer service scores on my resume, I ditched that bullshit and went for better money.
My first job after school as at a call center that tried to be like google in terms of casual dress, free food, fitness center, playstation in the common areas, etc. That still couldn't keep people from quitting every week en masse. I still hear commercials for job openings on my Jewdora radio years later.
You must have unlimited capacity to deal with bullshit from strangers. Well done.
> mfw I'm already being scouted by multiple companies because of "diversity"
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
Besides the fact that it's stupidly written, why do you even need a special function to check if a number is negative? num < 0 is only three characters. (if you like to put a space between your operator and operands).
I see this shit all the time and it pisses me off. Someone at work wrote a function to grab information out of a specific multidimensional array rather than just declaring a variable to reference the sub-array you need at the moment. This goes beyond being unable to program, since they are at least churning out code, this is them being unable to fucking reason at even a basic level.
Someone else wrote a fucking class that was made up of nothing but declarations of variables that each contained a numeric ID of a list of customers. Mustve been about a hundred of them. Sort of like an enum. That wouldn't been OK, a little awkward but at least not retarded.
Then, when he wrote a fucking function to get each and every one of those IDs. getMailingListID(), getHotListID() etc.
If that wasn't enough, in the class where he used those IDs, he wrote a function for each list. addCustomerToHotList() addCustomerToMailingList(). They were all exactly the same except they called a different "helper" function that got the ID.
He said he was making his code "maintainable."
>go to one of the shittiest schools in the country
>shit grades, drop out half way through
>now working at a comfy white collar job with a decent salary
Should have gone for STEM program right fags?
You fucking cunt.
Employers are bending over BACKWARDS for IT folks. Entry-level as a developer is ~$55k, entry-level as a sysadmin/network/dba is close to the same.
Why haven't you talked with a recruiter? There are a TON of recruiters out there that will do anything to find you a job. Call a recruiter and you'll have a job in 2-days.
A developer at work just got fired last month for masturbating in one of the stalls of the men's restroom. He had a job 3-days later. No shit. 3-days for a guy who just got fired for moaning during his epic 45min masturbation sessions in a public restroom!!!
Developers routinely walk into our CTO's office and say, "X company will do Y for me, what will you do?" and it's on the CTO to keep the talent! The CTO is giving assholes $40k raises on a whim because it's so exceptionally difficult to find IT talent right now.
If you can't capitalize on that, then you need to walk your fucking ass into traffic and end it.
much greater meme really.
ever get that feeling that you need to "be something"?
that once you have gotten to a certain point you will have "made it?"
that society is looking down on your because you havent done something "significant"
all part of the scheme, whereby a man will exhaust himself thoroughly for the sake of some great society in the sky which doesnt exist
>Have seen the future
>mfw after it
I'm sorry /pol/.
It only gets worse from here, until you're all begging and asking for the end of it all, for the flames of the sun to cook our planet and make it pop like a fat pus filled pustule it is. But it won't come. It never will.
haha that's cute no wonder you have no job
but hey if you went to school just to make money instead of finding a career you like and want to do the rest of your life.... try biology, that's where the money is these days, faggot
Not really. Bubble sort is great when you need to keep a list sorted constantly, and most of the times you run the function it will will result in no change or only one change, like when sorting a scene for alpha blending in 3d graphics. When there's only one change, insertion sort has to iterate twice-once to find out if the list has become unsorted, and again to find the proper place for the out-of-place item.
graduated with a degree in Software Engineering with a 2.7 GPA
school was known for engineering
got a job making 65k cause I do not look ugly and I have a decent personality
learned most of what I do on the job, not much used from what I studied in classes
everything turned out better than expected
>implying he didnt go to a good university or college
>implying he thinks a degree from community college or a shitty no-name university actually gets him a job
Not necessarily. If you don't pussy out as a mere programmer, you study:
Theory of Computation
Turing machines, entscheidungsproblem, P=NP complexity, algorithm optimization, graph theory, fuck tons more.
Granted, pioneers like John McCarthy had math degrees, but I'm sure that getting into tenure track CS academia can be done by CS grads ergo it CAN be a more rigorous path than you presume.
Wow you are literally a nut. But 1 thing was clear, personality do have great impact.
Call multiple recruiters because each recruiter has different clients (mostly).
If a recruiter asks any questions like, "Would you be willing to bend on your salary of $xx/yr?" - that's a red flag and you should ditch them. Good recruiters will tell you, "I can get you $xx/yr this week."
Understand that you are what's being sold to the recruiter. They're not your friend or partner. They're trying to sell you ASAP for a paycheck. Say you know .NET and want a .NET job, a recruiter that sends you to a PHP/Ruby/Python firm needs to be let go. They think they can pull one over on you, so ditch them.
Find a place where you're a "cultural fit" and go from there. Fitting in with the crowd can be a huge benefit going forwards. You'll build lasting friendships with co-workers and will expand your knowledge of your profession faster if you like going to work on Monday.
Interview 5-times per year. If I really like an employer, I'll interview 3x's/yr. The market changes faster than the shit software you'll be working on. Be sure to capitalize on it as fast as possible. If you've done it right, your first 10yrs should be filled with 10-15 employers, each offering more money, more perks, and an obvious trend of learning and growth that makes you indispensable to the next employer.
Horrible. You went from a dying field to a dead field.
In all seriousness though as long as you're still going to be in school for the next 2 to 3 years the outlook should be brighter than it is now
>tfw full ride NROTC scholarship
>tfw Comp Sci major
>tfw always wanted to be a naval aviator
>tfw mom's insurance covered my LASIK
>tfw got nuke drafted
>tfw graduate & commission in May
In hindsight I wish I had been able to choose something in the Intel field for the Navy.
Yeah, i'm a bit of an old fart in my school. I made the mistake of going to a utterly middling, no-name school and majoring in a hard science; but I made that mistake when I was young, dumb, and not sure what I wanted to do anyways.
Now i'm approaching 26 and in the middle of a much more competitive program, so hopefully I fixed it up before its too late.
At least if I figure out something by the time i'm 30 i'll consider myself sorta well off.
>A surprisingly large fraction of applicants, even those with masters' degrees and PhDs in computer science, fail during interviews when asked to carry out basic programming tasks. For example, I've personally interviewed graduates who can't answer "Write a loop that counts from 1 to 10" or "What's the number after F in hexadecimal?" Less trivially, I've interviewed many candidates who can't use recursion to solve a real problem. These are basic skills; anyone who lacks them probably hasn't done much programming.
Speaking on behalf of software engineers who have to interview prospective new hires, I can safely say that we're tired of talking to candidates who can't program their way out of a paper bag. If you can successfully write a loop that goes from 1 to 10 in every language on your resume, can do simple arithmetic without a calculator, and can use recursion to solve a real problem, you're already ahead of the pack!
Maybe it's you OP, because everyone I've known who has a degree in CS has gotten a job right out of college.
The insertion sort does not iterate the list twice. For a single change on a previously sorted list, the insertion sort will iterate up to the point where the out-of-place value is located, then backtrack by shifting the greater values over until the position where the out-of-place value belongs. The more out-of-place values you have, the worse the bubble sort becomes in relation to the insertion sort, but for just a single out-of-place value this has merit.
>Bubblesort is often used after a partial quicksort
No it's fucking not.