>>40959688 because its not genetic, it's a hormonal thing. Something Something hormones in the brain.
I recall hearing something about the brain getting the wrong kind of hormonal dose while in the womb, resulting in a fucked up person in life, who may be one gender, but mentally, identify more with the other because their brains are wired wrong.
pretty sure there's some scientific basis for that... Which means, there could be a solution.
>>40959896 >it's a hormonal thing Hormones can influence wants this is true, however either we must accept that the skyrocketing gay population is due to an increasing hormonal imbalance or we must accept that it's due to people wanting to feel a connection.
The rise in gay population (men) has been constantly increasing as female promiscuality and independence has increased.
Lesbianism has increased slightly but for the most part holds steady as a phase from the 80's.
Either way choice is nurture what you choose is all up to you, you are not born gay or straight.
>>40960014 well thing is, gays and shit have existed forever. It isn't just a modern thing.
the only difference is back in the day, they hid that shit, or they'd be stoned or killed or what have you. what IS modern, is being openly gay, and it being a "perfectly normal" thing to be "proud" of.
>>40960073 >what IS modern, is being openly gay No what is modern is being flamboyent, We're here we're annoying, get used to it movement.
Gays have been around for a long time yes and being open about it was also a thing especially in ancient Greece and Rome. However these were considered hedonistic cultures that valued form and presence. Much like the progressive cultures we see today.
>>40959384 maybe, maybe not. It happens that some mental disease are caused by infections. iirc, up until 2005, noone suspected a parasite to be the probable cause for schizophrenia. So, who knows. However until then, therapy can help (sometimes), they had some measure of sucess until they deemed faggotry acceptable to shut the street protests in 74.
No you fucktard science won't do shit for it, hell a good majority of the goy scientists support and like it. The only thing that will eradicate it is the reformation of government and the assblasting of public opinion using the right marketing campaign since that's the only thing anyone gives a shit about or listens to anymore
>>40959688 So you're saying that a gay man can simply choose to be attracted to females? The same way you can simply choose to be attracted to men (or children for that matter)?
I'd rather call them bisexual and consider them a sexual orientation distinct from gay or straight.
>>40960014 >Hormones can influence wants this is true, however either we must accept that the skyrocketing gay population is due to an increasing hormonal imbalance or we must accept that it's due to people wanting to feel a connection. Do you have statistics of the gay population over time? And what do you mean that it's due to people wanting to feel a connection?
If it's true that the gay population is rising it could also be because society is more accepting of it and they are able to admit it, or that it's connected to the (supposed) decline in mental health in America. It could also be that bisexual people more often identify as gay now than they did before. This is just speculation at this point though.
Regarding the abnormal hormonal levels while in the womb and it's correlation to sexual deviation, I'm sure it could be monitored and adjusted, but the question is if it would be acceptable to do.
So what exactly is wrong with being gay? I mean yeah, they can be quite annoying and I hate these stupid gay pride parades as much as the next guy, but why the fuck should I care in what kind of hole someone wants to put their dick in? This does not affect anyone but the gay population. I get that this "politically correct FCK H8 gay pride awareness"-bullshit shouldnt be pushed so hard, which is really fucking annoying, but what exactly is wrong with someone being gay? Even if it is a choice, what the fuck does it matter if someone decides to be a faggot?
I seriously do not understand /pol/.And the "muh degeneracy" argument never conviced anyone. [spoiler]I hope[/spoiler]
>>40960515 >So you're saying that a gay man can simply choose to be attracted to females? No not at all you dumb cuck
What I'm saying is that you have the ability to say yes or no and determine your own life. Attraction is something that's learned hell you may have a predisposition to liking large breasts just due to birth but it does not mean you will not find DFC acceptable. You can determine you're sexuality if you so choose to with something horrible that is borderline criminalized and alienates people in modern society. This concept is called self restraint should you want to like woman you can come to like woman. If you like woman but want to like men you can come to like men. What I propose is the ability for a person to change themselves and their desires. Our desires can make us or we can make our desires. If you disagree you must be Swedish
>If it's true that the gay population is rising it could also be because society is more accepting of it and more promotional of it and are attempting to normalize it. I have no problem with this but declaring something normal is an attempt to popularize it for acceptence.
I do not hate gays, I hate the people that think it matters if it's natural or not and go on a crusade if someone says otherwise. It makes no difference if it's a choice or not. Normality is fluid
Some scientists believe during gestation period, the exposure of various foods have a large impact on the sexuality of the person- higher levels of meat, folic acid, vitamin D are somewhat correlated to this statement,.
>>40960654 I agree with you, but as others have pointed out it could be due to such things as hormonal imbalance impairing judgement and may be a sign of mental instability. However most of the time it's probably not the case.
>>40960654 answer is simple: 1/ realise that most shit going the wrong way in your country will come from the combination of judaism and faggots 2/ they're just plain repulsive. hating fudgepackers is about as normal as breathing for an heterosexual man. 3/ noone reasonnable would want insane people in their midst. 4/ check tumblr.
Yes. As our understanding of biology advances, we'll learn to fix gays and transsexuals in the womb. We won't even have to abort them. Therefore, past a certain point no new ones will be born.
However, mental illness is being considered more and more to be just one facet of a person's personality. Homosexuality was taken out of DSM because heterosexuals became to some extent used to it. Exposure causes a dampening of emotional response.
Thus, even when a cure is found for post-natal homosexuality and transsexuality, the west won't force it on them. Though some may opt for it.
And given recent advances in stem cell and bioprinting technology, transsexuals will likely choose to transition rather then be cured. I know I will, though I welcome a world free from people who look like Chrischan and who act like autistics.
We're all going to get to be normal in the future, in precisely the way we want to be.
Well I was talking about this board in particular. I just can't imagine someone who reads some of the retarded shit on this site actually buys it all. I mean /pol/ does make some very convincing and true arguments about a lot of stuff, but when I read some of the "day of the rope", "the world is controlled by lizards" and "michelle obama is a transvestite" I just hope this has to be satire.
>>40960767 Yeah I believe that there has to be some cause for someone to become gay, maybe sometimes it's a genetic defect, a hormonal imbalance or just a choice, but I don't really care since I'm not gay and I can choose to not to have sexual contact with these people.
>>40960855 I don't like the idea of homosexuality either because I'm not gay and I find the idea of 2 men having sex repulsive. But since nobody's forcing me to have to watch or participate in such acts I would never discriminate against gay people. I just think whatever you like sexually doesn't have to affect how you are as a person. I don't understand some heterosexual fetishes, just like some probably wouldnt understand my personal fetishes, but that doesn't mean that any of that will affect someone's day-to-day life.
>>40960679 >>So you're saying that a gay man can simply choose to be attracted to females? >No not at all you dumb cuck >What I'm saying is that you have the ability to say yes or no and determine your own life. Attraction is something that's learned >You can determine you're sexuality if you so choose >If you like woman but want to like men you can come to like men. What I propose is the ability for a person to change themselves and their desires. Our desires can make us or we can make our desires. So if I understand correctly you aren't saying that you can simply choose what to be attracted to, but if you want to be attracted to males or females then you are able to change on your own volition?
How is that any different from the "pray the gay away" mentality? From what I've heard there's been quite a few cases of gay men trying to be straight to fit in but failing to change, is that because they didn't truly want it?
>>If it's true that the gay population is rising it could also be because society is more accepting of it >and more promotional of it and are attempting to normalize it. I have no problem with this but declaring something normal is an attempt to popularize it for acceptence. I meant that to be an implied cause as to why society has become more accepting of homosexuality, but thanks for specifying.
>I do not hate gays, I hate the people that think it matters if it's natural or not and go on a crusade if someone says otherwise. It makes no difference if it's a choice or not. Normality is fluid Does that mean you don't really care to discuss the possible underlying causes or trends in homosexuality?
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