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Is there such a thing as a non-radical feminist? How does one differentiate between a normal feminist and a Radfem?
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I would call Christina Sommers a non-radical feminist.
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>>36226972
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_and_gender_feminism

>Equity feminism and gender feminism are two kinds of feminism, first defined by scholar Christina Hoff Sommers in her 1994 book Who Stole Feminism?.[1] She describes equity feminism as having the ideological objective of equal legal rights for men and women and gender feminism as having the objective of counteracting gender-based discrimination and patriarchic social structures also outside of the legal system in everyday social and cultural practice. Sommers is herself a strong advocate of what she calls equity feminism, and opposed to what she calls gender feminism.
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>>36226972

>How does one differentiate between a normal feminist and a Radfem?

Tell her she has nice shoes and count how long it takes to be hit by a rape lawsuit.
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>>36227020

I would call her an egalitarian who is bitter that the moniker 'feminism' was hijacked by Marxists and hasn't quite given up on trying to reclaim it.
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>>36226972

Pretty much there's 3 "Waves" of feminism and the higher the number the more radical.

If someone says they're a 1st wave feminist they aren't radical and most people on /pol/ would probably agree with them.
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>>36226972

One group is looking for equal opportunity, which already exists. The other group is looking for equal outcome, which will never exist.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TR_YuDFIFI
Yeah but they are really rare
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>>36227121
wrong. both groups are looking for equal outcomes.
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Non-radical feminists only exist in countries where feminists don't need to be radical to be relevant.

The more gender equality a country has, the more radicals the feminists become in order to justify their jobs as professional activists and gender studies professors.
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Feminism has always been abusive, but they have a good PR campaign covering it.

First wave feminism didn't fight for "the right for women to vote", they fought for "the right for land owning women to vote".

They were abusive as fuck and used double speak the same way they do now.

It doesn't matter if they're radical or not, if you support abusive people you're responsible for their actions. If you support feminism, you support the radical branches as well and need to accept you're being a shield for them to act the way they do.
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>>36226972
>Is there such a thing as a non-radical feminist? How does one differentiate between a normal feminist and a Radfem?

Yes. Politicians are usually non radical. That's where most feminism comes from.
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>>36226972
he4she

he for she

Hilary Clinton

Is Emma the anti christ?
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>>36227086

1. Egalitarianism = Feminism
2. Feminism hasn't been hijacked by anyon, it was always like that.
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>>36227240
>implying the Big Red can't become a judge

The judge on the left was at some point sitting in a women's studies class being indoctrinated just like Big Red.
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Ever notice when a feminist makes a speech she presents herself in a modest, toned down manner instead of the manner in which she normally dresses.

Fake fucking cunts.
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>>36226972
Her hair's back ^_^
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I have yet to meet a feminist who wasn't a raging leftist at heart.
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Arguing semantics is useless and even more useless is serving labels. You want to advocate for specific rights? Go for it. You want to be a good person? Fucking do it. You don't need to "be" something to be a good person. Egalitarian, humanist, feminist, MRA; stop relying on doctrines and dogmas to do your thinking for you.
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>>36226972
>how to differentiate between

By using your fucking brain.
Need me to hold your dick while you piss too?
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1st wave feminist: Alright.

2nd wave feminist: A little crazy but they make some good points. Basically like animal rights activists but for women

3rd wave feminist: WTF you're not even talking about women, its about anti-colonialism and gender queers.
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>>36227650
>Basically like animal rights activists but for women
Animal rights activists are human scum.
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>>36227340
Dat nipple
9/10
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>>36227340
>"u wot m8"
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She has a horrible face.
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>>36227687
Slow down there schlomo.
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>>36227687
*rolls eyes*
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Feminism thread?
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>>36226972

Normal feminists just stand for nature, i.e. female nature having a balanced influence in society with male nature. Pseudofeminists call for a revolution whereby nature is overturned and the sexes are homogenized into an androgynous, denatured slave-race.
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>>36227308
>The judge on the left was at some point sitting in a women's studies class being indoctrinated just like Big Red.

Yes, they MAY have had a vita like that. But the point is that MRAs concentrate too much on facebook screenshots and ignore where feminism is really made and enforced: In the parliament.

Women's suffrage is the reason for feminism, not Big Red.
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>>36227272
>Feminism hasn't been hijacked by anyon, it was always like that.

*Feminism hasn't been hijacked by anything, anon, it was always like that.
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>>36228059
>Normal feminists just stand for nature

Bo such thing.
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>>36228101

>give woman right to vote
>massive welfare state is established there after

I-its a coincidence!
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>>36227650

Stop repeating your bullshit. The worst wave was the first wave, because it enabled the second and the third wave.

If you're talking about the most destructive feminists it was the second wave. They introduced every craziness ever invented, from rape expansion to leg hair glorification to women's quotas.

You have no clue anon, you're a femishit yourself.
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>>36228071

I disagree with you. They all go to college before they get to Parliament. The indoctrination occurs in college.

A woman studies professor is far more dangerous than a single Senator, because she produces hundreds of school teachers every year all filled to the brim with bullshit and eager to shove that bullshit down the throats of the children in their classroom.

It's the teachers teaching feminism that are the real threat. They produce the Judges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Daly
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>>36226972
If you feel the need to call yourself a feminist in the west, where women already have full equality if not special rights, you're likely a radical. If you're in a 3rd world country where women don't have rights and you call yourself a feminist, you probably legitimately only want equality at this point, meaning you're a modest/actual feminist.

There is no point to calling yourself a feminist in the west, or to call for more power to women in the west, as they already achieved the equality they were seeking. Its now just a sideshow of special rights
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Radfems only exist on the internet and rich white colleges/universities
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>>36228247
>I disagree with you. They all go to college before they get to Parliament. The indoctrination occurs in college.

Why do you disagree then? That's exactly what I am saying. It's the normal looking professors that enforce feminism.

>A woman studies professor is far more dangerous than a single Senator

The picture doesn't doubt that, anon.
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>>36228244
>women were in the equally hard situation of having to see the ship go down
Yeah, except the men were watching it go down beneath their toes and women from the safety of a life boat.
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>>36228298
>If you're in a 3rd world country where women don't have rights and you call yourself a feminist, you probably legitimately only want equality at this point, meaning you're a modest/actual feminist.

Bullshit. Typical feminist bullshit. Men in 3rd world countries have it far worse than women.

ANY type of feminism is parasitism because women are always the privileged sex.
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>>36226972
Of course there is.

Feminism has lots of different tendencies within it, like any other ideology ever. Radical Feminists are to Feminism what Marxist-Leninists are to Socialism; unwanted by everyone else there and held up as an example to generalise the rest of said ideology by people who disagree with the ideology.

> How does one differentiate

A Radical Feminist will advocate female supremacy, the separating of the sexes, collective guilt for the entirety of Men for patriarchal society etc.

A non-radical Feminist wont advocate any of those things and are actually interested in equality between the sexes as opposed to female supremacy, and they on the whole recognise that patriarchy hurts men, too.
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>>36228356

Exactly. Feminists were always shit. It's equally true, if not even more so, for 1st wave feminists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qIndoWEkaU
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>>36228406
>interested in equality between the sexes

That's the problem.
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>>36226972
>Talk to girl
>If she's all about just letting people achieve what they can do
>This is a non-radical feminist, otherwise a person who doesn't give a fuck and realizes the only people who can help themselves achieve is themselves.
>Marry this woman

>Speak with girl
>She thinks gender quotas and female scholarships are a good idea to help women
>Majority of University graduates are currently women
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>>36228406
>patriarchy hurts men, too.

The patriarchy does not exist. Spare us your feminist fairy tales.
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feminism from is very beginnings in the 1800's was radical because they claimed they wanted "equality" and what they really wanted was male privilege wtihout male responsibility

MGTOW was an inevitable result of feminism since men continuing to have the burden of all responsibility and no longer having any privilege have finally hit a social breaking point where they shun both and civilization itself and the femitards didnt realize that turning all of the men who mined coal and worked in factories into my little pony neckbeards who never leave their single-bedroom apartments would have catastrophic effects on the civilization they depend on for their female privilege and gratification

out of my graduating class I only know one man who is married and has children the rest have either expatriated to another country and started a family there or have gotten vasectomies and are permanent bachelors and in two cases men i knew had sex change operations

we are a a major shifting point in history it wasn't anywhere close to being this fucked up just 10 years ago if my sample group is comparable to the rest of society then there will be no eligible men to marry for 90+ of women in this country and shits gonna turn road warrior
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>>36228335
>Parliament

You were saying that the cause feminist injustice is activism within the government. I'm saying activism within the government is a symptom of the cause, which is thousands of colleges allowing Radfems to teach women studies with impunity. It all stems from the women's studies curriculum.

Mary Daly was notorious for kicking men out of her classroom because their just being in her classroom was a "disruptive influence".
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>>36228455
> Comparing an entirely different species to members of the same species

Are you retarded?

>>36228485
No Feminist thinks Men sit up at night thinking of how to oppress women in some sort of illuminati/international jewry/masons/etc. sense.

Just admit that you don't really understand Feminism.
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>>36227272
>freedom stalinism and tolerance fascism don't exist

I'm disappoint..

>>36227020
>>36227086
these. there's no good form of feminism unless you totally redefine the word
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>>36226972
>Is there such a thing as a non-radical feminist? How does one differentiate between a normal feminist and a Radfem?
feminist of any kind is a subversive anti-Western movement.

the female vote was no less stupid than any recent feminist development.
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>>36228556
>Are you retarded?

The pic mentions they are a different species, do you have a counterargument or not?
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>>36228558
>there's no good form of feminism

Yes there is.
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>>36227779
top kek
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>>36228664
kek
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>>36228584
>the female vote was no less stupid than any recent feminist development.

The female vote is the backbone of feminism.
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I think your average person who buys into feminism has good intentions and is your typical radfem but of course the vocal minority (read: Tumblr) has given feminism this meaning of man hating. To be honest who gives a fuck what people call themselves focus and actually fuckin getting shit done.
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>>36228697
*and isn't your typical radfem. Gotta learn to proofread shit.
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>>36228697
>I think your average person who buys into feminism has good intentions and is your typical radfem but of course the vocal minority (read: Tumblr) has given feminism this meaning of man hating.

You are mistaken. I consider women quotas a radical step. When asked it turns out that most women do support women quotas, even most university women.

In other words: Most women are radical feminists, they just aren't activisits, because they don't need to.
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>>36226972
Unfortunately you ask the wrong question and exhibit the same failure as Hermione to understand the difference between classical feminism (equality, building market opportunities; capability to engage women to do what they do well, commercially, and,for men to exploit this) and neo-marxist-soviet-feminism, or more accurately, the bored SJW man hating feminism that ran wild after the soviet union stopped pulling the strings. She evidences this in appealing to men to side with "the (neo)feminists" to solve the problems they create...all the while failing to recognise that classical western feminism of the 19th century (bearing equality) is the only form,of feminism that should be tolerated by modern society.
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>>36226972
a normal feminist complains about how she feels society "oppresses" her.
a radical feminist tells you how she plans to fix the society that "oppresses" her.
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