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Let me explain to you what being a welfare leech is really like

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Let me explain to you what being a welfare leech is really like in Australia.

>turn 21, decide I have had enough of sitting on my ass. Im going to work
>realize I screw myself for not working for 3 years out of highschool
>apply to McDonalds, most fast food chains and retail store. No one want to hire me
>go to job service provider. They out right tell me to not bother with minimum wage jobs in those areas because for people under 18 they are paid 10 dollars an hour, where as if they were to hire me they have to pay me 17.50.
>blown back I don’t know wtf to do.
>Get a certificate in health services, nobody wants to hire
>go for further study. Sweet I should get a job now.
>no job available
>decide on an apprenticeship. Nothing in the health sector, decide on becoming a mechanic
>sorry the government wont fund that apprenticeship because you’ve already completed a higher form of education at TAFE, and its not in the same area.
>oh fucking hell, im voting liberal
>liberals come into power, fuck yeah.
>they get rid of all sorts of funding for apprenticeships, like 2000 dollars that goes towards your tools, they get rid of tax breaks for small business, there are a lot less options for traineeships and apprenticeships now thanks to the government.
>fucking abbott is worse than labor for small business
>completely stuck. Wtf do I do.
>decide to enroll into biomedicine cause I cant find fucking work, and because tony abbott basically said you’re either working or learning if you want your centrelink pay.

I am now a student studying fucking medicine, im supposed to be a tradie. I’m not fucking cut out for this shit.
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yeah dont reply to my thread or anything
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>>32037656
sorry
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>>32037281

Bet you wish there was no minimum wage now huh.
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My advice to anyone who's being fucked by society would be to fuck back. Just try and do so without causing needless innocent casualties.
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>2014
>voting liberal
you dun goofed
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The common themes through your story are ignorance and a lack of forethought
>don't work out of high school while everyone else does - obviously didn't consider your future at all
>decide to get educated, but get educated in a field nobody's hiring in
>having had this experience, decide the best course of action is to further invest in that field
>try to switch fields, but you've now screwed yourself over for government support
>vote liberal thinking they will help you despite not knowing anything about their policies
>expect endless state support and second chances
Seriously, where's the cutoff point? You honestly think you can sit around for three years contributing nothing to society and then get when you finally decide to get off your ass and act like an adult get everything handed to you on a silver platter?

Move to WA and get a job pulling rocks out of the ground. They're always hiring.
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>>32039132

>Move to WA and get a job pulling rocks out of the ground. They're always hiring.

Not without a 9000 dollar dump truck ticket.
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>>32037281
uni student here working at woolworths
workign at my store we have 2 fully qualified lawyers 5 business graduates 3 teachers and a doctor (he didn't want to work out in the middle of fucking nowhere)
this fucking country
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>>32039345
A Dr.??

Fuck me...


I'm studying to become a nurse.

TFW they would rather import nurses than hire me when I graduate.

Fkn cunts
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>>32038916
So he can work for $2/hr?

Only 2.75hrs for a big mac? Such a high standard of living!
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>>32039426

A male nurse?
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>>32037281
You sound really stupid.
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>>32039426
yeah the doctor and the teachers are working at woollies because to get work as a teacher you have to work out in abbo land for a couple of years before metro schools will even look at you and the doctor didn't want to work in fucking mt isa base hospital (but he just going through the motions till he gets into the army as direct entry officer
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>>32039446

It depends. If everything costs less then that wouldn't matter. Back in the 1930's and 1940's 1 grand was considered a lot of money.
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>>32039523

The ADF will outright call him a dumbass when he could be getting more money working somewhere rural. I also don't see that as logical as he would need to relocate still.
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>>32039345
What those people don't tell you is that they're all shit and either graduated at the bottom of their classes or got good marks by relying on others for help or just downright cheating.

There are some really bad universities in this country, and even the good ones manage to produce some really dense alumni. Simply having a degree or otherwise being "fully qualified" doesn't mean shit to employers.

>>32039523
>to get work as a teacher you have to work out in abbo land for a couple of years before metro schools will even look at you
Not true. I know teaching graduates who have been immediately hired by schools in metro areas.

>didn't want to work in fucking mt isa base hospital
So he wasn't good enough to get into a good hospital. Boo hoo.
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>>32039517
Of course he is, he's an Australian
Just look at the state of their country
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>>32039446

Beggars cant be choosers lib scum.
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>>32039446
He would be hired for the same dollars as the young kids who can get a job easily.
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>>32037281
just be a waiter. get paid in tips. let the people pay your way more directly.
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>>32039570
There's a reason he's working at Woolies even though he has a medical degree.

>i don't want to live somewhere remote
>i know, i'll sign up for the ADF!
>they definitely won't stick in me in some shithole base for 4 years, even though they do that to every other officer!
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>>32037656
Make it more interesting fag

SAGE
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>>32039761

why doesn't he get a loan to start up his own GP business?
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>>32039237
>everyone there drives dump trucks

I know 2 lesbians who work there cleaning bedrooms
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>>32037281
>turn 21, decide I have had enough of sitting on my ass. Im going to work

There's your problem. The only person you can blame is yourself.
Also
>2014
>voting liberal
u dun goofed
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>>32039345
>he didn't want to work out in the middle of fucking nowhere

Why not, adventure is awesome

>>32039488
A Murse XDDDD
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>>32037281
join the military.
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>>32039873
>leech wasting his life away
>decides to turn his life around
>too late cunt, you had one shot and you blew it

It shouldn't be like this
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>>32039847

Believe it or not I doubt cleaners get paid as much as skilled workers. There is no incentive to go there and you can only work in the mines if you actually have qualifications which costs thousands of dollars.

OP has no trade or anything so he can kiss that idea good bye.
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>>32039951

The ADF wouldn't hire him. They reject everyone has funding has been cut.
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>>32039960
If you're out there and getting paid less than $300 a day in hand you're being abused. No shit.

If you're skilled you're looking at more like $600 - $1000 in hand per day.
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>>32040000
move to New Zealand then. Australians can move to NZ freely.
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>>32039956
3 years is a fucking long time. Imagine yourself, tomorrow begins a holiday period of 3 years. 3 fucking years of doing nothing and having no responsabilities.
I'd kill for that.
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>>32039956
Shots that OP had:
>do a school based apprenticeship
>do a regular apprenticeship
>go to tafe
>go to uni
>work a regular job
He let all of these pass him by and now he wants yet another chance.

Where would you draw the line, anon?
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>>32040076

There is even less work there...
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>>32037281
http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/index.html

Then make some shitty android apps
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>>32039891
>A Murse XDDDD
Male nurses make up most of the ICU's these days.
Their day to day job is pretty intense in there. Its a respectable position in the modern age of medicine.

Maybe 10-20 years ago when all they did was change bedpans and shit, but these days the old stigma doesn't make much sense.
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>>32040088
>>32040113

Yeah I get it but the answer should never be "we give up, we'll just pay for you for doing nothing for the rest of your life now"
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>>32040113

Well yes I think he deserves a second chance. This is why so many are leeching off welfare. We can't do anything to increase our job prospects without paying out the ass for it.
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>>32040150
I didn't mean that as an insult /b/ro
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>>32037281
sweet blog m8. will upvote and r8 8/8
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>>32040150

Good luck to you and your future of replacing colostomy bags.
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>>32039132
This. OP is like a women's studies major.
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>Leave high school at 18
>get a job driving a forklift for a produce transport company in werribee south
>$21/hr 50-70 hours a week very busy
>still living with parents and manage to save up almost 30k in savings in less than 2 years


Do you cunts even try?
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OP

i am in a very similar situation, but iam 25, with a biology degree and 0 job experience. I need money if i want further education but since i cant get eve a mcdonal tier job i am just stuck. i dont get any help from goverment, i live with my mom, which is a big cunt btw. I dont even know why i wake up everyday, humans like>>32039132 just ruined the whole world.


>>32039951
this is not a job. better stay neet than this. fuck you.
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>>32040113
Well enjoy paying his welfare then
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>>32040204
>>32040226
I'm not OP, and I'm not a nurse.
I spent a long period of time in an ICU though with a sick family member, and couldn't imagine female nurses doing the shit they did in there.
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>>32039237
Lol only the dumbest of cunts actually do those courses.

Fuck being an operator anyway. These days most of the boneheads are women.

Get a job as a TA it is piss easy.
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>>32040317

I was a forklift driver for 2 years and it's not a good job.
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>>32040357
>TA

a wat
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>>32040076
There is a reason why all the Kiwis are flocking to Aus.
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>>32040328
join army

become helicopter mechanic or pilot

get out after 10 years.

get well paying job wrenching or flying helicopters
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>>32040194
OP already had his second chance (at least) and he blew it.

>didn't do a SNAP
>didn't go to uni
>didn't get a job after high school
>wasted government support for training deadbeats on an education nobody wants
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>>32040357

What the fuck is a TA?
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>>32039836
>why doesn't he get a loan to start up his own GP business?

the doctor probably lacks the work experience and the specialisation to do that.

the doctor should try being a locum.
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>>32040328
dude, what the fuck are you doing? youre a bio major with NO experience? wtf did you do in school? nothing? you got NO interneships? you got none of the perks that come with college?

you mean to tell em that youre in debt and jobless, and you didnt even have the guts to check your school for oppurtunities, and at least picked up 1 or 2 smmesters worth of intern experience?

nigger faggot, youre using your own incompetence to justify you being a jobless retard.

walk back to your school, look into alumni perks and for the love of god, get an internship.
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>>32040381
Trades assistant.
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>>32040408
Therefore we must pay all his costs for the rest of his life
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>>32040328
just go to chairforce or something m8
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>>32040328
>biology degree
Sadly the new psychology degree.
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>>32040339
>>32040429
Not if Based Tone gets his way. Then he'll be working for the dole.
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>>32040441
Yeah wtf is with women and doing a degree in psychology?

I swear like 3/4 of all the women i know at uni are doing it.
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>>32039847
Bet ones named rebecca
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>>32040458
>he'll be pushing trolleys at Coles at no cost to them being paid with my taxes

FUCKING YAY SO BASED
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>>32040396
years of horrible leftist policy?

I have a kiwi friend in North Palmerston and I know the national government is hell bent on being green.
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>>32040465
"I find people interesting", "I want to know what makes others tick", "Just because there's no hard math in psychology doesn't mean it's not a real science", etc.
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>>32040317
a friend of mine have being driving a forklift for 4-5 yrs and he earn ~$9/hr. You have no idea about how lucky you are.
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>>32040465
If you do clinical or industrial psychology it's actually pretty good, but let's face it most are probably doing social or critical (i.e. feminist) psychology, which produces more "check yo priv, cis scumlord" bullshit.
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>>32040530
err Palmerston North.
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>>32040441
i can try to go into pharmacy but oh well i dont even have a car.
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>>32040530
>>32040530
Not sure about their government but we have a shit load of kiwis in WA and they all say that there is absolutely no work in New Zealand.
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>>32037281
>literally get given a free certificate and get your degree essentially paid for
>still can't get a job despite having 2 tertiary qualifications
>decide to vote for a certain government because GUBMENT WILL SAVE ME
>STILL can't get a job
>complains about Australia
Mate, it's not societies fault you are a shit cunt and cannot get a job. People in other countries would literally kill to study medicine.

The reality is just this: you're probably just an unemployable asshole. You took a 3 year break out of highschool and expect to be able to compete with everyone else? What the fuck do you think this is? I wouldn't hire you either because chances are you a lazy, entitled asshole. Why didn't YOU take a job while you were under 18? Why didn't you work after highschool?

People say life isn't fair, but guess what, it actually fucking is in Australia. You had 3 FUCKING YEARS off in a time when you should have been working your ass off to build your life, and now life is hard for you. Welcome to reality cunt. Just thank your lucky stars we're well off enough as a country to fund your tertiary education (which you're probably putting in a half-assed effort on).

Fuck me mate you're a debit.
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>>32040538
>there's no hard math in psychology

Psychology relies pretty heavily on statistics. If you suck at math you will be a shit psychologist. And good psychologists have no problem tearing their colleagues' methods to shit if they are really unscientific. A lot of shit research gets published, sadly, and people take it as gospel because it's in a journal.
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>>32040000
Funding has actually increased for adf
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>>32040600
>i can try to go into pharmacy but oh well i dont even have a car.

pharmacy is a surprisingly good choice. fantastic grad wages and reasonable hours.
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>>32040542
American? minimum wage in Aus is like 15/hr
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>>32040676

funding has probably increased but every anon who has actually applied for the ADF mentions that they are reasonably full.
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>>32039571
>What those people don't tell you is that they're all shit and either graduated at the bottom of their classes or got good marks by relying on others for help or just downright cheating.
>There are some really bad universities in this country, and even the good ones manage to produce some really dense alumni. Simply having a degree or otherwise being "fully qualified" doesn't mean shit to employers.
FUCKING THIS.
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>>32040226
I'm a male nurse and work in the adf assisting in surgeries.


I get paid 85k with awesome benefits
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>>32040676
>Funding has actually increased for JIDF
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>>32039873
I think you mean

>2014
>voting liberal and expecting welfare
u dun goofed
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>>32037281
Fellow aus here op, its not just you brother were all fucked atm

I have:
Bach Applied finance
Cert IV T&A
Cert IV Oh&s
Advanced Riggers
Advanced Scaff
C0 crane
And every other ticket under the sun..

Probably a cumulative 50k in training 10 years experience and it took me 6 months to get my current job which is finishing up in a few months.

Ten year ago there was endless apprenticeships in the paper for those who wanted them, now its min wafe of nothing.

Add to the rent trippling, power quadrupling, food doubling yet NO increase in unemployment benifits.. shits hard atm if you dont have family to rely on.
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>>32040749
>voting
>2014

Election was last year buddy
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>>32039956
>It shouldn't be like this
Except it's not at all? This country has heaps of second chances. You just wasted yours.
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>>32040764
A guy at work told me it's usually the faggot with a million tickets who is the worst worker. Was true at our workplace for sure. Most useful guy was like 18 and had no tickets at all, based country boy as fuck.
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>>32039571
> There are some really bad universities in this country, and even the good ones manage to produce some really dense alumni. Simply having a degree or otherwise being "fully qualified" doesn't mean shit to employers.

degrees are a filter. unless the degree is absolutely necessary to do the work involved, it's a box to tick to reduce the number of applicants.

having said that, as a job seeker, some of the stupid shit that i've seen recruiters and employers do (or make the applicants do) is ridiculous.
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>>32040194
*3rd chance
How many chances do you cunts need? If you didn't learn from your first big fuckup you deserve to die in a gutter.
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>>32037281
Are you beginning to realize that "muh social safety net" is actually detrimental to the process of getting a career?
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>>32040423
Not that poster but also an unemployed biology graduate. Most uni's these days, including the G8 uni I went to don't provide the opportunity to do an internship, as they don't give a fuck about their students as long as they give them money.
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>>32040818
>How many chances do you cunts need? If you didn't learn from your first big fuckup you deserve to die in a gutter.

is a job for life? no. even if you don't fuck up at the start it's not going to be smooth sailing until the end.
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>>32040328
>BAWWWWW I did a fun degree at uni and didn't do any work while studying or even go for any work experience and no one will hire me WAAAHHHHH HUMANS LIKE >>32039132 JUST RUIN THE WHOLE WORLD EXCEPTING ME TO PUT IN SOME ACTUAL WORK.

ITT: a Labor voter is born.
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>>32040764
how is that socialist paradise working for you?

maybe you can get a job in a factory. oh wait Straya doesn't have factroies anymore. workers are too expensive. everyone drives chinese cars and trucks made in thailand now.
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>>32040815
I hate recruiters. I got swindled in to their tactics for a while "I have a client looking for x, if you do this exercise they might be interested". Exercise takes like a week to do. No response.

I still feel like an idiot even though that was ages ago now.
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>>32040764
maybe go to a third world country and make bank? White people dont travel anymore?
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>>32039582
Given the circumstances it's still faring better than almost everywhere else.
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I can't wait until we exterminate all the filthy poors and losers like OP. Heil Abbott!
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>>32037281
Off to the military you go.
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>>32040458
You do know that he won't get his way right? The next aussie government will almost certainly be one that favors progressive economic policies.
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>>32040844
m8 you've got to find and make opportunity for yourself. It's so fucking easy to succeed in this job environment because of retards like you. Kill yourself.
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>>32040677
Thinking of doing an M.Pharm next year
How hard is it to become a hospital pharmacist?
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> All these Retards talking about OP voting 'liberal'

You are aware that the Liberal Party of Australia is nothing like what you burgers describe as 'Liberals', right?

Wait, of course you're not.
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>unemployed people with biomedicine degrees
>an entire world of transhumanism is there for the making with modern computers
>no jobs, no investment, no resources

It fucking hurts
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>>32040883

i have to do the coding tests all the time. i don't really have an issues with that.

i have more of an issue with the "oh i can't tell you who the client is". for the last guy who did that, i went and found the real job ads and mentioned to him who the clients were the next time he called back.
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>>32040926
this

Basic infantry for you OP. Get out.
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>>32040812
Probably didn't have any himself and was resentful all these people making more, doing less.

It's 100% true, if I'm sitting in a 250t crane doing 3 lifts a day I'm working no where near what the concrete laborers are yet getting paid close to double.

The more skilled and educated you become, the less you rely on physical exertion and more your mind, its commonsense.

That said, tickets = jobs. Unfortunately for every job theres 1000 applicants so in my feild of work its 90% nepotism 10% merit and were STILL struggling
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>>32040933

>so fucking easy to succeed in this job environment

Are you retarded?
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>>32040978
I'm glad you answered your own question.
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>>32040348
genuine question
could you please describe what the male nurses did in the ICU that you couldn't imagine female nurses doing?
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>>32040676
That's what they say to beta faggots and people who have no skills
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>>32037281
>American
>graduated with a bachelors in advertising
>only a few openings in my area
>all want 5-8 years in industry
>"maybe I can re-locate to an area booming in the field!"
>relocation cost $$$
>decide to get a bullshit job to save up
>fast food and retail won't hire me, overqualified
>agencies won't hire me, not enough experience in the field
>too good or not good enough
>too proud to get on government assistance

I won't even waste time trying to explain this to boomers
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>>32040941

no idea. the guy who mentioned the quality situation for pharmacists worked at a local chemist.
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>>32039960
Speaking from experience the appeal of jobs like this is that usually room and board are included because you are out in the middle of nowhere. No rent or bills means it is really easy to save even if your wages aren't huge.
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>>32040769
was very obviously greentexting someone else's post, buddy
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>>32037281

Serves you right for being a lazy shit as a teenager.
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>>32041004
Nigga was the boss getting paid more than anyone actually but I know it's not true 100% of the time.

Pro tip, with project work, if you are paid ~too much~ they will only get you in for the minimum amount of time. To maximise your pay you want to get as much per day and get as many days as you can, without being the first on the list to be fucked off from site.
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>>32041038
I have a 6 figure job and you don't soooooo, no?

Sounds like you may just be a shit cunt.
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>>32041088
At work at glng gladstone. 3700/pw, flight, food and accommodation supplied yet people here still complain.
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>>32040996
Unless your athletic, healthy and confident as fuck you won't get passed the assessment day
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>>32038991
>voting liberal
Liberal is conservative over there.
Their current PM is a Liberal, as in classical liberal, the 'muh free market!' types.
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>>32041122

>Having a job makes me smart and all knowing.

How fucking arrogant.
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>>32041182
>yet people here still complain

Same at my work, we usually find some excuse to send them packing lol
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>>32041182
We have become a nation of whinging cunts
Shame Straya, shame...
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>>32041199
M80 even when I didn't have this job I was swimming in opportunity. You'd honest to god have to be disgustingly lazy or stupid to fail in Australia. There is so much opportunity here it is insane.

If your life has failed there is no one to blame but YOURSELF. Come to terms with that already you fucking loser.
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Faggot if you're from the city your picture is from, put a resume together and apply at TSA, they'll hire any dipshit, sell foxtel for a year or two like the scumshit you are then go apply for a better entry level office job.

If you can't manage to be earning more than 40k a year within 18 month, you're fucking hopeless and deserve your poverty, even more than you already do for voting lib
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Leave the country and find somewhere where there's work.
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>>32041121
Been doing this 10 years mate, I know how it works. Current job took me 6 months to get, saved 52000 cash in 7 months with a few holidays thrown in. Unfortunately ill be in the first cull because I was late to the party.

Sounds lile alots but after this job I probably wont find work for 6 more months so there months of expences drainimg things.
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>>32040764
>Add to the rent trippling, power quadrupling, food doubling yet NO increase in unemployment benifits.. shits hard atm if you dont have family to rely on.

This x1000
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>>32041268
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Life sucks green text time?
>live in west virginia
>work in shitty plastic factory
>make 9.96 an hour, with night pay, finally full time after 10 months of what what supposed to be a 3 month temp to hire job.
>safety meeting:lol tell us about problem
>tell boss about the load of shit thats broke, lock out tags, 6 tons support beams cracked, metal racks getting caught on plastic web pulling in with enough strength to lift a car, pinning me and others.
>get back to work
>next day doing the work of three people by myself on the line
>dirty stares from bosses
>cant keep up, hauling ass with no chance
>in office they say i want to be fired. Tells me to keep up or a temp will replace me.
>haul more ass, no luck
>Threatens me again, i almost get pulled into the grinder again (two dollar bolt to stop this)
Told him to walk me out. Tomorrow i see if i can get unemployment. I did technically quit but i am going to cite safety reasons, under state law thats acceptable. They told me on the way out i was going to be fired anyways.
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>>32040941
Working on a Pharm. D in the U.S. Pharmacology is not too complicated a subject, but you're thrown a mountain of information in a short period of time. You have to memorize hundreds of trade, generic, chemical names, MOA, indications/contraindications, etc. Hospital fucking blows. It's rife with drama since you're surrounded by women and asshole doctors. I'd recommend compounding pharmacies and infusion centers, but stay the hell away from nuclear pharmacy. Also in the U.S. they're leaning towards letting in more women and extraverts who major in liberal arts instead of introverts with STEM degrees.
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>>32041268

>My fault I don't have nepotism
>My fault I don't have money
>My fault I grew up in poverty
>My fault I can't better my situation because no money

I bet you were bought up in a rich entitled family you fuckhead. Get outta here.
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>>32041308
>Been doing this 10 years mate

lol, how many houses have you lost to harpies?

I'm the same way, work all the summer months and job shuts down over winter. I just go into hibernation and save most of it though.
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>>32041065
Mate, I moved 7,000 miles for a job. Don't fucking complain about not having any jobs in your immediate vicinity.
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>>32041184
>Unless your athletic, healthy and confident as fuck you won't get passed the assessment day
Fuck off cunt get your ass off the couch and go for a run and you'll meet basic fitness easily. How fucking sickly are you that you can't meet basic military health standards? They take cunts with asthma these days ffs.

Why the fuck would you be unhealthy anyway, haven't you had time off and years of living comfortably at home? Are you a fucking invalid? Maybe you're just a fucking subhuman debit and should kill yourself to save the gene pool.

>confident
I know a thousand beta cunts with zero confidence who have made it past the selection process. General entry selection is easy-mode. I have no idea where you've gotten this idea that you need confidence for it. The military specializes in taking weak, shy teenages and turning them into soldiers.
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>>32037281
threads like this shit me and people like OP are fit only for the gas chambers.
I live and work at a remote roadhouse on the Nullarbor, zero skill minimum wage job but we get housed and fed by the boss so no living expenses plus nowhere to spend money because 700kms from town. I've managed to save forty grand in 2 years and pay off all my debt.
We literally can never get enough staff, every leaves really quickly because they can't hack being remote. Always have ads on gumtree wanting staff. Thousands of unemployed cunts in the city whinging about their life and blaming Tones for shit.
All dole bludgers should die
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>>32041311
The new norm man. Its a problem created by the western world. We do not produce anymore, we do not consume resources to make products, we do not WORK. A service industry does nothing but push money around until it leaves the country. The west is slowly being robbed by politicians and banks and everyone is to hopped up about unimportant social issues to notice. Expect everything to cost more. EVERYTHING. Look up how Argentina fell. Its a road map for just about every nation. AUS, US, etc.
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>>32040900
give Abbot a year and we'll be more fucked than the US
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>>32041402
Well tell us what you job is and give us contact details you cunt
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>>32041398
>tfw healthy and smart but bad eyesight

I will never be a chair force pilot
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>>32040844
Yeah everyone says muh internships get an internship faggot but when I was in school there was like 5 advertised for a class of 100 people
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so why didn't you work for the three years out of highschool, chicken little?
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>>32041331
Call a lawyer, start processes. Look into all the "Safety" related shit you can. You need to get balls rolling if you want to be taken as that being the actual reason you quit.

You are unemployed. You have the time to do this.
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>>32041463
Unless you're well connected, you didn't have much of a chance.
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>>32041398
dat F-18
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>>32041443
Nah I fully get it. Everyone from the politicians to those in high finance and banking are basically just taking turns shitting on the middle class. The increases happen slow enough that people dont complain too much, but those with families especially are going to be fucked in a few decades. Human greed man.
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OP, do you actualy have to work?
How much money do you get for being jobless?
Can you do that forever?
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>>32041499
It's alright, I'm paying my own way to a pilot's license, I can afford it now
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>>32039345
My grocery store has a cashier with a masters in mathematics

>muh 300k starting
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>>32041443
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>>32041580

Expect to see more of this

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/07/07/11/39/stabbing-fatality-at-sydney-mall-reports
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>>32041266
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>>32041454
Go on gumtree and search "roadhouse jobs" always advertising. Alternatively just google the various roadhouses and ask them straight up if they have a job. They'll want you to email your resume so have it ready.
The job is simple, work at the roadhouse, serve customers, do a bit of cleaning and stacking shelves and that's it.
Be prepared to live in the middle of nowhere. Stay off the piss and save your money.
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>>32041488
How would i get the money for the lawyer?
Also, in my state its up to an arbitrator. As for proving the safety issues, well i don't have access to the building, the security footage (they watch us like hawks, a camera every 10 feet, they yell at us if they catch you not working hard enough on them) and calling OSHA is pointless. OSHA showed up twice, never went past the door, everyone is pretty sure they get paid off. 10 minute conversation in the office with them and they leave.
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>be me
>21 years old
>got a work in a hardware store 2 weeks
>earn 300 dollars a month
>work 10 hours a day
>want to make a nosejob to better my life
>its 3000 dollars here
>i will borrow the money
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>>32041532
If only there was some way to remove greed from the system.
Maybe if we...just add some rules here to change it. Stuff like...standards. Just a bunch of rules that stipulate that you can't do less than a certain level, for safety, or wages, or whatever.
Oh, well. I guess there's no way to do it, or anything in the dictionary with a definition coming close, and it'll likely be bad for the economy to do it anyway.
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>>32039761
tfw want to join the navy.
tfw when base is like 10km away from where i live now
tfw will just have to tough our first year of basic training + employment training before getting stationed at said base.
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>>32041367
GET FUCKED CUNT.

I literally didn't have enough food on the table as a child. My parents are both alcoholics and unemployable. You need to go eat a fucking dick you professional victim fuckup. Want to know how I got tertiary qualified?

>suffered through highschool, worked 3 afternoons per week
>went to a country uni so I could afford a $100pw shitbox apartment filled with mold, rats, spiders, criminals and druggies so I could afford to live off centrelink + work on saturdays and do my uni study in a field that actually promises work, not fun.
>zero help from parents, slowly build up what furniture, cooking items, etc, I had from a single fold out couch to a full house.
>completed one of those free Cert IVs while doing 3rd year uni and working and an extra-curricular course that gave me a leadership qualification
>promoted at work in the mean time
>get a job straight out of uni

The difference between you and me? I actually fucking put in the work, and you just sat at home whining and playing the victim. So how about get fuck you lazy, entitled little fucking cunt.
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>>32041608
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>>32041618

You need to contact a governing body and report your workplace. Over in AUS we have worksafe but I'm sure America has something similar. Once they make a report you can sue the workplace and get lots of money.
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>>32041402
I get so happy when I see my meme posted.

FUCK YOUR WELFARE CUNTS
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>>32041051
Work longer hours.
Complain less.
Lift more than 50 lbs.
>thats what? 22,000 grams or something in metric?

Less legal costs (women sue more)
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>>32037281

Just become a paramedic or some shit
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>>32041519
>pucrty
>F-18
Get the fuck out
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>>32041611
Do it faggots, it's glorious out in the desert
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>>32041675

MFW centrelink is cutting that free cert 4 thing.
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>>32041733
fucking autosend
>picture of F-14, not pucrty
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>Be me, NEET for 5 years.
>It's monday morning, dole day is wensdey.
>Look at clock, it's 130pm, been playing mario kart 8 since i got up.
>Guess i should get some lunch

>TFW going over chinese shop now for the $10 lunch special.

lol keep working tax payer, someone needs to pay for this shit
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>>32041671

Are you married?
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>>32041533
op pls answer.
I know nothing about the Australian System.
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>>32040317
noice m8

I was living with my parents making $18/h 35 hours a week and saved 45k in 2 years

Feels good being Jewish as fuck with money
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>>32041519
you're about 4 off
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>>32041750
>MFW it didn't make a difference anyway
>MFW you're just looking for excuses
>MFW you have no one to blame but yourself
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>>32041772
>lol keep working tax payer, someone needs to pay for this shit

Socialism in a nutshell.
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>>32041182
What do you do?
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>>32040000
People can still join the ADF as they are always training people to replace people who don't want to reenlist, if you go after technical roles you will have more of a chance, and if you have civie training & or experience that crosses over you will be more competitive.

Of course shit like infantry and they will tell you to fuck off. 8/10 people i know who applied have passed and have or are doing basic, 1 needs to pass their fitness test first.
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>>32041725
1kg=2.2lbs.
22680g
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>>32041535
How did you get a pilot's licence if you have eye issues?
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>>32041790
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/newstart-allowance
510$ per fortnight, forever.
But remember everything is far more expensive here so it probably isn't much more than you get unless you are 3rd world.
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>>32041802

w/e just make sure you pay your taxes as I want to go skydiving on the weekend.
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>>32041772
Where do you live, how much money do you get, is it enough to live for, can you do this forever?
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>>32041691
OSHA is the people who investigate unsafe job sites. they just bribe them. As for suing them, i have 300 dollars right now. i can't afford a lawyer, that company has more than 50 and is involved in numerous lawsuits, both ways. Best i can do right now is unemployment. Can't even unionize. First thing they tell you is talking about unions and talking to a union rep is instant firing. Company policy is written that they "dont need a union, it gets between the workers and the company", a crock of shit. Last time they tried they fired a bunch of people and threatened to shut down the plant.
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>>32041766
>>32041801
Northrop-Grumman is shit anyway.
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>>32041750
>this much clutching at straws
M8 you're just a loser, live with it.
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>>32040844
dude, fuckoff. its right there. i go to a low tier school and theres fucking internships ppouring in. go figure out the dates for that shit, dress up and go interview for an internship. thats your fuckign in, and youre fuckign ignoring it like a lazy fatass.

>>32041485
figure out the days other schools are doing their career days and attend them retard redneck
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>>32041860
Thanks! Good to know. Is healthcare and housing included or do you have to pay rent from the one grand per month?
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>>32041845
Civil aviation requirements are not as strict as the military. Military cutoff is like -3, mine are more like -6.
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>>32039523
My cousin has just finished studying as a doc and has a pick of hospitals in Brisbane and Sydney.
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>>32041877
That's actually illegal, I recommend looking up some labor lawyers.
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>>32041883
U WOT M80? I SWEAR ON ME FOOKIN MUM ILL FUKIN SMASH U M8.

Don't you talk smack about Grumman around me cunt.
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if youre in here and bitching about a job, youre just a faggot trying to live in the days of economic recession, wher elife was simple and miserable. life is booming now and anybody thats complaining isnt participating.

fucking lazy swine
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>>32041869
>go skydiving for $400-500 a pop when you can get a skydiving license for like $2000, which includes like 30 jumps
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>>32041912
Oh cool. Good for you man.

Some good advice btw, if you haven't wasted your tertiary centrelink, you can now do you your pilots licence via HECs. Ill find you the link. What state are you in m8?
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>>32041779
Single white 20 year old male.
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>>32037281
Start selling drugs and growing pot/thread fuk da bolice
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>>32041386
read the full post
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>>32041909
Healthcare is free here, but shitty compared to europe
Housing I am not sure about, you will get rent assistence I believe but it is not enough to live off unless you live out west in the bush
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>>32041959

They removed HECS and replaced it with HELP m8.
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>>32041959
QLD but I have enough saved for it, I'd rather not go into debt. I've just paid off my last lot of student loans.
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>>32041990

That's nice. Everyone needs some help now and then.
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>>32041990
>>32042015

I wish it was called HELPM8 that'd be rad
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>>32041934
You heard me.
Engineering and design work better with blank checks and zero private profit.
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>>32041871

i live with my parents so yeah i can do this forever, i dont think you can be NEET and on the dole if you have rent and bills

>NEET
>expenses 0
>amount of disposable income? 100%
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>>32042015

Under the new scheme they add interest to the loan and now you have to pay it back when you earn less than before under the HECS system.
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>>32041959
http://www.swinburne.edu.au/science-engineering-technology/schools/engineering/departments/aviation/flying/fees.php
Here you are mate. I'm pretty sure Swinburne aren't the only ones, and I think if you do it this way you also get a bachelor of aviation as well.

Give it a good look. That page has info on the HECS-HELP side of it too.

Good luck with being a pilot bro.
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>>32040764
>food doubling

It's silly, it is just about the same cost to make dinner at home and eat out now
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>did unpaid internship in school
>got a 18k a year job one week out of school
>getting a raise to 25k in 5 years
>work hard 60 hours a week
>all the faggots in this thread who don't want to work
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>>32037281
why did you vote liberal?

I do not understand my countrymen. The vote for neo-liberal ideologues... and are surprised with the result.
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>>32042000
That's good then. Have fun flying! Study hard.
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>>32042066

You still need to pay $4,456 in additional costs. There goes that idea.
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>>32042079
25k after 5 years...

When are you going to start your actual career?
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>>32042082
Because "fuck off we're full."
The European Liberal, often times called neoclassical, or simply classical liberal, is libertarian in its actual form and function.
You never e xpect it to turn on you until the free market fixes YOU.
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>>32042119
Mate just work at Coles and save that much. $4,500 is not a lot to save.
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>>32042119

Who doesn't have 5k lying around?
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>>32042141

M8 how many people in this thread tried to get a job at coles? It ain't happening.
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>>32042082
>>32042129
kek
Every party we have is neoliberal, save some elements in the greens.
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>>32042129
you sound like a faggot, this is why you arent winning
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>>32042148

Welfare recipients.
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>>32042079
>getting a raise to 25k in 5 years
>getting a raise to 25k in 5 years

That's fucking horrifying
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>>32042066
Thanks anon, I'm actually doing it part time through an aero club. I'm not too interested in doing yet another degree (already have 2 down). Another thing I'm considering is this:

http://www.rex.com.au/cadetpilot/Default.aspx

The thing is with work at the minute I'm better off studying part time so I can keep my highly paid job. Once that gravy train ends I might do full time study.

>>32042116
Cheers anon
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>>32041675
you are a middle class cis white male. you're oozing with privilege. unless you're a minority woman, you didn't really have to work for what you have now.
gimme dat birth control
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>>32042164
I'm in the US.
Austrian economics don't work bro.
They simply don't. The math doesn't add up for anyone but the people most invested in keeping everyone else out of the loop.
If you don't work on growth, your bottom line might be positive, but your economy shrinks at a constant basis, and everyone gets fucked.
In about 30 years, we'll confuse Argentina and Australia. Similar names, similar living conditions, what's the difference, right?
Damn shame.
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>>32042203
that's more than i make
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>>32041398
I'm not the guy you think I am.

But believe me they have the pick of the litter ATM for infantry etc.

So many young cunts are pumped cos of cod and shit.

I'm employed mind you and would never dream of being a bullet catcher
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>>32042237
Argentina broke because of debt. Now they are a bunch of faggots screaming muh neoliberalismo and slowly decaying because of their socialist policies. Argentina is an example of the failure of socialism.

Literally every country that has deviated from free market policies has ended up failing, you are delusional.
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>mfw temporarily embarrassed millionaires can't see past their anecdotal experiences and realize the middle class is basically dead and the economy is being pillaged
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>>32042237
stupid ignorant retard, you dont think theres entire books devoted to the topic of growth in economies?
you dont think that this isnt shit you learn in business econ 101? you dont think that growht is the most obvious fuckign thing to owning a business and managing an economy? you dont think the world isnt dozens of steps ahead of you when it comes to shit that matters?

shit you didnt get a degree in.
shit you know nothing about.
shit you think you know something about.
shit fed to shit eaters.

youre a fuckign ignorant dumbass stupid fucking invadfer of the americas. your e aufkcing dumbass. a fucking ignorant god damned mother fucking retarded ignorant.
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>>32042309
this. The middle class is dead in the west just and Corporations and Oligarchs are robbing the few trying to hold on left and right. Welcome to 1990s Russia.
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>>32042308
Literally every free market country has failed or is failing. You know why debt ends up being a problem? Because you don't grow enough to cover it.
>b-but economic multipliers don't EXIST
>b-but muh free MARKET
>b-but SOCIALISM!
Capitalism is the WORST economic system ever devised, except for all of the other ones; it's also best when regulated and tuned for growth.
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>>32042155
Yeah a job at coles at 25. You'll get work there easily earlier.

Anyway. There's no point arguing with you. You're a professional victim. If you really think you deserve a job like being a pilot after bludging at home like OP for 3 years you're dreaming.

Enjoy being a loser. The rest of us who actually put in the work while we were young will enjoy laughing at you.
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>>32042367
youre an ignorant dumbass if you dont think the market as a whole isnt trying to grow together.
like govt intervention is the only method for growth.

idiot
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>>32042309
>didn't get an internship
>probably has some shitty useless degree like chemistry or something and didn't bother to get his masters
>HUUR COMMUNISM THE 1% ARE TAKING OVER
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>>32042325
Of course growth is the most obvious thing to owning a business.
I'm saying that people will ignore it because growth costs money, and money impacts the bottom line. Being in the green constantly with ever shrinking numbers is, to these people, better than temporarily being in the red with much larger numbers, until you're pulling a profit and that profit begins to skyrocket.
It's evident in modern economies that focus on subsistence that they cannot and DO NOT last.
But it looks good on paper!
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>>32042232
>parents could barely afford to feed him
>both alcoholics
>privilege
GR8 B8 M8 I R8 IT 8/8
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>>32042432
>chemistry
>useless

Libarts major detected
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>>32042423
You're an ignorant dumbass if you think the market as a whole could possibly grow when the aggregate demand is nearly nonexistent after 40 years of toxic economic decisions propped up solely by a debt bubble.
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>>32042232
I'm a black transgender homsexual.
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>>32042367
>Literally every free market country has failed or is failing.
That is objectively not true, you can't see past the shit that you talk about in your circlejerks with other leftist cunts. The countries that are suffering the most are the least free market ones of europe, spain, portugal, italy.
The ones that are total failures are the ones in south america that have adopted socialism. Even people like Hollande have changed at least in rhetoric to a more freemarket outlook.

Btw pic related is where the middle class went.
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wtf is this centrelink I keep hearing about
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>>32042442
good, hopefully he won't rape now
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>>32037281
Nobody cares about your shitty country
Go back to your basement
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>>32042434
dude, look at what youre typing. this shit you accuse them of not doing is entry level consideration in economics. its the basis for simple managerial growth.

>thinks its just about total revenues
>doesnt think businesses try to maximize their growth rates
>doesnt think businesses work together to make their practices happen
>doesnt think owning a business is more than just making money.

youre whats wrong with the economy bro. retards liek you try to start non-profits and businesses, get a good amount of money and then fuck everyone over in the end because youre aretarded uneducated ignorant slop.

all the shit you keep preaching about is the first piece of material you learn in any econ class - "growth, and not going for the full green".

jesus christ
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>>32042530
welfare centre of australia
its where you go to get double the average monthly wage for most countries for doing nothing.
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>>32042480
>take indexing of inflation from minimum wage
>king's share of workers makes a stagnant amount
>economic multiplier grows smaller as MPC and MPS grow smaller and smaller
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>>32042574
And people actually complain about being kicked off this shit?

Holy shit can we just nuke Australia already
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>>32042587
>>king's share of workers makes a stagnant amount
But as the graph shows people are moving between brackets, thus making more.
>>32042619
Australians are the most entitled faggots in the world.
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>>32042536
Yes, it's the first thing you learn in macroeconomics, in fact.
But, contrary to that, people are taking the OPPOSITE ROAD. They say to cut spending and revenues, which shrinks GDP severely.
Businesses do the same. You don't think all of them are pulling more and more profit, do you? Any and all businesses that 'downsize' are doing exactly what I've outlined.
They eventually shutter and die.
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>>32040653
Why do you kunts get so mad though? Is it because he enjoyed his free time and actually lived as a human being and not a wage slave like the rest of you are? Why would anyone ever actually enjoy working at a shitty job and be proud simply because you get to trade your time and effort for digital numbers in your bankcards ? Isn't that voluntarily slavery through a brainwashed society expecting everyone to "contribute"? when someone says that word it simply means they're sayin "hey, I'm a wage slave, I'm happy with every fucked up thing going on around me but as long as I don't get fired and continue sucking my boss's dick, I can buy stupid shit that I don't need and pay tax so my government can use that to further making their friends richer in effort to stay in power."
Also fuck all the dickheads and army shills saying you should join the army and killing people for oil and "freedom" if you want money. That's literally being a legalised criminal scum working for the extremely rich to rob other part of the world drier. Don't even start with the left and right bullshit. You all should know by now both sides are fucking puppets working for their masters.
If you kunts really think you're doing good for the economy, and for some reason people always think if it's good for the economy it's "good" for everyone else in the world, without evem knowing what the fuck the actual "economy" these lying scums are marketing just so they can further fuck us all slowly but surely.
There are more stuff to say but I can't be fucked as seeing so many fucking shills and retards in every Australian thread it's not even funny. Believe in your own mind, don't let others force you to do what you don't want to do, once the nuke goes boom we're all gonna peace out anyway kunts just get loose and live life happily. Don't seek for happiness in materialism and mainstream propagandas, seek for it within yourself.
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>>32042619
Australian here, just nuke us, I don't give a shit.
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>get my masters degree in burger technology
>do 8 unpaid internships
>spend 10k getting my bun handling certificate, grill operator certificate, customer service training, condiment applications certification...
>finally graduate with 3.9 GPA
>have trouble finding a job because not a 4.0 GPA
>decide to get my PhD in burger technology with a bacon burger specialization
>finally ready to enter the job market
>my dad manages to get me a temporary burger gig for 3 months
>get laid off
>spend the next 6 months unemployed
>government gets rid of the minimum wage, not I can finally get a job
>$5/h starting, can finally pay off my 120k in student loans
>live 60km from work because the cheapest rent in the city is $3000 a month for a single room apartment
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>>32042682
>privileged cislord scum entitled shitsucker
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>>32041402
Is that aussie talk for stop being a lazy cunt and come do some real mans work out in the middle of nowhere and actually make some money?
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>>32042659
so what? youre upset losers are joining the market?
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>>32042722
sorta
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>>32039535
>If everything costs less then that wouldn't matter. Back in the 1930's and 1940's 1 grand was considered a lot of money.
>lol. he thinks if people were paid $1.50 an hour things would cost less.
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>>32042659
MUH KEYNES
>cutting spending and revenues
The historical narritive would suggest that this is the right path.
>shrinks GDP severely
m8 paying people to dig holes or blow things up would raise GDP
>>32042659
>Businesses do the same
Government is not a business
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>br
>26 years old
>never had a job
>still in college

I'm just sure I'll never ever find a job
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>>32042769

>>lol. he thinks if people were paid $1.50 an hour things would cost less

They would have to as no one would buy there products if they couldn't afford it.
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>gas generation y, age war now
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>>32042660

Mate, occupy wall st ended. Didn't you get the memo?
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>>32042657
The graph makes this distinction, yes, but the economic multiplier for those making a larger amount is much lower.
You might think that more people making more is nice, but if they don't spend, the economy doesn't grow, it ends up stagnating. The free market, in essence, will "fix" these people making a high income.
>100.1%
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>>32042790
incorrect, the only thing that would increase the buying power of the dollar would be to increase to value of each dollar, either by removing notes from circulation or backing each dollar with something of value
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The biggest thing to do is lie, lie, lie on your resume.

Why on Earth would you say you didn't hold down ANY jobs for 3 years?

Like if I wanted to get hired at Best Buy, I would simply put on my resume that I worked at a RadioShack for 2 years. I mean, shit, what are they gonna do? Call back to confirm when it's some $11 an hour job? Only for real jobs ($40k+) do they actually call references.
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>>32042660
Oh stfu you nigger ass NEET. No one who matters gives a fuck about you or your pathetic ass words. Go fuckin die like wouldve already occurred had nature not been impeded by busybody faggot progressive types.
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>Get Comp Sci degree
>all of two internships in college were available
>shockingly they went to the few qt 3.1415 girls in the program that applied
>Turns out that those places didn't even want actual workers
>They just had unpaid interns for a year at a time and replaced them like clockwork that way
>graduate
>everyone wants 3-4 years min experience in field for starting positions that are little more than tech support
>many places even wanting 1-2 years code writing experience for languages that came out less than 8 months ago

What the fuck am I supposed to do?
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>>32042041
Aren't you ashamed that you're milking and freeloading from your parents?

What do they think of your lifestyle?

Also you won't be able to do this when your parents die.
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>>32042876

Lol look at this dumbass. It's your own fault you're unemployed. Get a job loser.
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>>32042876

Show me your github.
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>>32042619
Youth allowance wile being independent is ~420$ a fortnight. You can get like 60$ extra for rent assistance. So 480$ total. Rent will cost 150$ a week for a room leaving 180 a fortnight for food, transportation ect. Keep in mind everything cost 2x as burger land it isn't alot of money.
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>>32042903

>MFW when parents die I will inherit thousands of dollars.

Not a problem.
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>>32042876

Where the hell do you live? Comp Sci has a 5% unemployment rate in the US.
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>>32042950
I'd rather have my parents than their money
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>>32042836
>muh keynes
The economy grows when more is produced, as workers become more valueable they are paid more.
Of course we can never prove eachother wrong so there is no real point to these arguments
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>>32042876
You've been preemptively outsourced nigga
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>>32042827
Also don't talk to shills like this, as you all should be aware /pol/ is completely fucked and full of government shills spreading disinfos and provoking with comments like these. Mods are also working with them so whatever you see on /pol/ front page nowadays are most likely shills shilling shills to distract us from the threads with information that matters.
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>>32042773
>the historical narrative would suggest that this is the right path.
I'm sorry, but you seem to have missed everything except one failure of Keynes; that the stagnation crash in the 70s wasn't predicted.
In point of fact, literally everything that has happened since was predicted by Keynes(ians) in exactly the way it's happened, and we're only now getting to the bad parts of it now that the consumer debt bubble has popped.
>>32042790
No, plenty of people would afford it. They'll likely shutter the doors because of a general lack of profit, though. With lower prices domestically, but much higher energy prices abroad, relative to the USD, domestic deflation would actually devalue the dollar abroad. It's why the yuan and euro aren't as big as the dollar.
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>>32042961

Probably Australia since THIS IS AN AUSTRALIAN THREAD you fuckwit.
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>>32042914
>hurr durr Im too good for all these jobs!!!11!!!

I fuckin hate these uni grad faggots who failed to learn anything useful in school, like how the real world works.

Just go get ANY job and work. Dont fuckin come back saying there isnt jobs, there is! He's probably too much of a faggot to actually go and get one though
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>>32042936
>Rent will cost 150$ a week
Where are you living where rent is that low?
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>>32042986

Fuck off commie. You're not wanted.
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>>32042950

Just thousands? That won't do shit.
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>>32037281
>Let me explain to you what being a welfare leech

Suicide is always an option.
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>>32042976
Fair.
I was about to claim that the economy grows when the demand is higher, thus requiring more growth and production, creating value for workers. Realistically, a full Keynesian model can't work...but neither can an Austrian model, or the cobbled mess our current model is.
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>>32043030

Hundreds of thousands* plus I get a free house.
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>>32042986
KEK, take a shower you dirty hippie!
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>>32042876
>graduate CS from an australian uni in 2013
>get 3 $70k offers from australian companies
>get 1 $100k offer from an american company
sounds like you didn't do any open source shit while you were studying

top kek
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>>32043023

For a ROOM. Or ROOM SHARE.
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>>32042998

Alright, well there you fucking go.

Nobody really posted that this is an Australian General, you cunt.

Get fucked.
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The economy recovered in 2010 faggot there is no job crisis you just suck
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>>32041609
>racism
>bad
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>>32043061

Fuck you dumbcunt he clearly states Australia in the OP.

Not my fault you fucking can't read for shit.
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>>32043061
>first line of the OP makes it clear the thread is about australia
fuck off burgerclap
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>>32042936
It doesn't sound like a lot of money so why do you need it? And why do these shitposting aussies always complain about getting kicked off of it?
Fucking scum.
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>>32043105
>>32043103

>OP posts about being a neet in AUS
>on an American cartoon forum
>expect no Americans to reply

k den, cya.
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>>32042994
Keynes didn't predict the great depression
I was referring to the fact that budget cuts worked well in Britain and Australia during the great depression which saw unemployment fall faster than in keynsian-inspired FDR land
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>>32043131

They aren't American cartoons and this isn't a forum you fuckhead.

I'll glass ya cunt.
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>>32042876
And yes, I've been working a shit tier job for $8/hr because everything else is fucked.
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>>32043132
You said since stagnation sorry
But my main point is still there
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>>32043131
>cya
smart move pussy
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>>32043061
Would be Aussie, i had cert 4 and dip in IT - networking and car't even get a job doing help desk shit. IT & CS is over saturated and will take some good dick sucking skills to get a job.
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>>32042876
Lie on your resume and pretend you have experience.

That's what the people getting these jobs are doing.
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>>32043006
>implying I don't have a shitty job right now

Kill yourself nigger
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>>32043131
>/k/ is about cartoons
>/lgbt/ is about cartoons
>/o/ is about cartoons
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>>32037281
should of studied accounting at uni anon. I know plenty of people who literally had no work experience study accounting and were working full time within 1 month of graduating uni.

Australian born accounting students today is actually less than in the early 2000's, Australian employers don't want to hire Fong Lee or Muhammad Derkastahn
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>>32037656
>Princess detected
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>>32043132
>Keynes didn't predict the great depression
Yes he did. In 1919.
>If we aim at the impoverishment of Central Europe, vengeance, I dare say, will not limp. Nothing can then delay for very long the forces of Reaction and the despairing convulsions of Revolution, before which the horrors of the late German war will fade into nothing, and which will destroy, whoever is victor, the civilisation and the progress of our generation.
Mises did not, however. this is why KEynesian economic doctrine was favored up until the 1970s.
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>>32042876
>What the fuck am I supposed to do?

1. get a github account.
2. get a SEEK account and make sure that it's public to recruiters. fill it out with your uni education and any relevant work experience.
3. get a LinkedIn account. fill it out with your uni education and any relevant work experience. put a photo up. search for students you studied with and add them.
4. stack your github account with code from projects that you work on in your own time.
5. apply for grad/low experience roles on SEEK/LinkedIn.
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Op, what you need to do is go capture and train some kangaroos and put them on harnesses that pulls a chariot around.

This is what all tourists want from Australia. We will come just to give you money. You'll become a national treasure.

Billion dollar idea given to you for free. Don't fuck this up.
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>>32042961

australia is still strong on outsourcing dev work to india/the phillipines/eastern europe.
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>>32043282
>>32043282
>>32043282
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>>32043175
>sitting at home in a bathrobe watching ABCNews24 whilst everyone else is out working.
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>>32043027
who the fuck even hire these robots seriously? TOO FUCKING OBVIOUS.
>2014
>still name calling on internet
>filename.jpg
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>>32043056

who is paying 70k for CS grads?
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>>32043241

interesting. there were complaints about the situation for accounting grads in today's AFR:

http://www.afr.com/p/national/professional_services/graduates_hardest_hit_for_decision_wZkuLhIkpO43mVUby3aydP
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>>32037281
>>liberals come into power, fuck yeah.
>>they get rid of all sorts of funding for apprenticeships, like 2000 dollars that goes towards your tools, they get rid of tax breaks for small business, there are a lot less options for traineeships and apprenticeships now thanks to the government.

Liberals want you to be dependant on government. Labor is a bunch of Leftist to, they're interested in training Asian immigrants, not you

Sorry your country to retarded, but I can't feel bad for you because most of you are retarded to and shit up the internet
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>>32041402
Whereabouts? Stuck in Norseman atm lol.
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>>32039951

>dat military feel
>early finishes
>65k a year
>don't actually work
>dat job satisfaction.
>dem benefits

If you're not in the ADF as a young 20 something year old, your pleb tier. If you stay past 25, you're a chump.
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>>32042281
>So many young cunts are pumped cos of cod and shit.
So this means kids are pumped to kill ruskis and arabs. Before pearl harbor murrika didnt want to go into another world war. Media is drawing the battle lines for us.
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>>32043054
That still won't do shit.

You need to inheit at least 1.5 million to last you more than 10 years
>>
As much as the guy going on about how easy it is in Australia is a cunt he's kinda right. I'm starting my final year of my bachelor of business majority in accounting next year and fully expect to get a job as soon as I finish it. You just have to do research before going to uni on what jobs are in demand.

>tfw I'm going to be on 70k a year starting after just 4 years study
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>>32041675
I live with my mother, who can barely afford to feed herself at the moment, let alone help me, no money to spend on bullshit like an apartment for myself, or furniture for it.
HECSing all the uni fees. Already completed a Cert IV in Business (For free ofc).
Working in a bakery where I've worked for over a year, but am getting no shifts because they'd rather pay some kid a lower wage or some indian off the books, while I'm left to fend for myself.

I don't see how I would be in a better situation than you. About to start the last semester of my last year. And from what I'm hearing from the recent graduates, the job market for young people is just fucked up.

>promoted at work
>get a job straight out of uni

That's not how things work anymore you clueless dinosaur.
Things don't work so easy anymore. And I'm not comparing this to the 70s, shit, 6-7 years ago, the situation was way smoother.

Things are different. What applied to you, does not always apply for everyone else, forever.
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>>32043331
companies whose primary purpose is to build and sell software pay their devs good wages
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>>32043124
So i can have shelter,eat food and have clothes on my back?
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>>32043616

so, it's easy to get a grad position but not only haven't you graduated yet, you aren't in your final year to apply for grad positions.

also, who is paying $70k for grads?
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>>32043694
>companies whose primary purpose is to build and sell software pay their devs good wages

i'm hearing atlassian. every other big name is selling SAAS.
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Which countries are looking to import qualified Aussies for work?

I'm guessing shit like China.
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>>32043417
yeah, I've read similar things over the past couple of months. Personally from what I see Australian students don't necessarily find it too hard to find accounting work as internationals do. However I do agree with the pay rate. Its pretty shitty for starting out. $40k or so for graduates.
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>>32043006
A friend of mine has spent years getting trained to be a mechanic, and it's taking him a bit longer to find a job than he expected. So what does he do?

He's now working as a baker. Got an apprenticeship started and everything (getting paid $8.5/h, full time). And because I know him ,and his boss, he's gonna stay there for a few more years at least (he's young)

I'm happy for him because he's working and all, but if you work so hard trying to become something you want, and then just take ANY job, what was the point of trying in the first place?
By the time he realises that this whole baking bullshit is not what he wants to do, and that he wants to go back to automotive, it's gonna be too late for him.
He'll have qualifications, but no relevant experience.
>>
>>32043914
There's always work for english teachers in asia, but there's about a 50% chance the job isn't real and you're walking right into a sex trafficking ring.
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>>32044082
I could do sex trafficking.

How much does it pay?

I'll go by the name Cockodile dun-do-you, what do you think about the name?
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>>32043282
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>>32043282
new thread fgts
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>>32037281
m8, I was in a similarish circumstance. 21, never worked a day in my life, half way through uni.

Started applying for all sorts of shit-kicker jobs. No one interested. Starting to despair.

The answer? Nepotism.

Do have any friends that are employed at the moment? I got my first job only because of a mate of mine. It was shit, but it was a first job.

Life's not fair. But all that means is you can't play it fair.
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Out of curiosity, how many of u butthurt neetfags in here who can't get a job went to a top 10 college in their field?

I wonder to how many people does >>32040721
apply to in this thread
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>>32043795
>i'm hearing atlassian
;)
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>>32043677
>25
>Dinosaur
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>>32037281
Cry harder.

I've been working since i was 14, instead of being a lazy fuckwit.

You only have yourself to blame
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>>32046069
>he's crying as hard as he can
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