Let me explain to you what being a welfare leech is really like in Australia.
>turn 21, decide I have had enough of sitting on my ass. Im going to work
>realize I screw myself for not working for 3 years out of highschool
>apply to McDonalds, most fast food chains and retail store. No one want to hire me
>go to job service provider. They out right tell me to not bother with minimum wage jobs in those areas because for people under 18 they are paid 10 dollars an hour, where as if they were to hire me they have to pay me 17.50.
>blown back I don’t know wtf to do.
>Get a certificate in health services, nobody wants to hire
>go for further study. Sweet I should get a job now.
>no job available
>decide on an apprenticeship. Nothing in the health sector, decide on becoming a mechanic
>sorry the government wont fund that apprenticeship because you’ve already completed a higher form of education at TAFE, and its not in the same area.
>oh fucking hell, im voting liberal
>liberals come into power, fuck yeah.
>they get rid of all sorts of funding for apprenticeships, like 2000 dollars that goes towards your tools, they get rid of tax breaks for small business, there are a lot less options for traineeships and apprenticeships now thanks to the government.
>fucking abbott is worse than labor for small business
>completely stuck. Wtf do I do.
>decide to enroll into biomedicine cause I cant find fucking work, and because tony abbott basically said you’re either working or learning if you want your centrelink pay.
I am now a student studying fucking medicine, im supposed to be a tradie. I’m not fucking cut out for this shit.
My advice to anyone who's being fucked by society would be to fuck back. Just try and do so without causing needless innocent casualties.
The common themes through your story are ignorance and a lack of forethought
>don't work out of high school while everyone else does - obviously didn't consider your future at all
>decide to get educated, but get educated in a field nobody's hiring in
>having had this experience, decide the best course of action is to further invest in that field
>try to switch fields, but you've now screwed yourself over for government support
>vote liberal thinking they will help you despite not knowing anything about their policies
>expect endless state support and second chances
Seriously, where's the cutoff point? You honestly think you can sit around for three years contributing nothing to society and then get when you finally decide to get off your ass and act like an adult get everything handed to you on a silver platter?
Move to WA and get a job pulling rocks out of the ground. They're always hiring.
uni student here working at woolworths
workign at my store we have 2 fully qualified lawyers 5 business graduates 3 teachers and a doctor (he didn't want to work out in the middle of fucking nowhere)
this fucking country
yeah the doctor and the teachers are working at woollies because to get work as a teacher you have to work out in abbo land for a couple of years before metro schools will even look at you and the doctor didn't want to work in fucking mt isa base hospital (but he just going through the motions till he gets into the army as direct entry officer
What those people don't tell you is that they're all shit and either graduated at the bottom of their classes or got good marks by relying on others for help or just downright cheating.
There are some really bad universities in this country, and even the good ones manage to produce some really dense alumni. Simply having a degree or otherwise being "fully qualified" doesn't mean shit to employers.
>to get work as a teacher you have to work out in abbo land for a couple of years before metro schools will even look at you
Not true. I know teaching graduates who have been immediately hired by schools in metro areas.
>didn't want to work in fucking mt isa base hospital
So he wasn't good enough to get into a good hospital. Boo hoo.
There's a reason he's working at Woolies even though he has a medical degree.
>i don't want to live somewhere remote
>i know, i'll sign up for the ADF!
>they definitely won't stick in me in some shithole base for 4 years, even though they do that to every other officer!
Believe it or not I doubt cleaners get paid as much as skilled workers. There is no incentive to go there and you can only work in the mines if you actually have qualifications which costs thousands of dollars.
OP has no trade or anything so he can kiss that idea good bye.
Shots that OP had:
>do a school based apprenticeship
>do a regular apprenticeship
>go to tafe
>go to uni
>work a regular job
He let all of these pass him by and now he wants yet another chance.
Where would you draw the line, anon?
>A Murse XDDDD
Male nurses make up most of the ICU's these days.
Their day to day job is pretty intense in there. Its a respectable position in the modern age of medicine.
Maybe 10-20 years ago when all they did was change bedpans and shit, but these days the old stigma doesn't make much sense.
>Leave high school at 18
>get a job driving a forklift for a produce transport company in werribee south
>$21/hr 50-70 hours a week very busy
>still living with parents and manage to save up almost 30k in savings in less than 2 years
Do you cunts even try?
i am in a very similar situation, but iam 25, with a biology degree and 0 job experience. I need money if i want further education but since i cant get eve a mcdonal tier job i am just stuck. i dont get any help from goverment, i live with my mom, which is a big cunt btw. I dont even know why i wake up everyday, humans like>>32039132 just ruined the whole world.
this is not a job. better stay neet than this. fuck you.
I'm not OP, and I'm not a nurse.
I spent a long period of time in an ICU though with a sick family member, and couldn't imagine female nurses doing the shit they did in there.
OP already had his second chance (at least) and he blew it.
>didn't do a SNAP
>didn't go to uni
>didn't get a job after high school
>wasted government support for training deadbeats on an education nobody wants
dude, what the fuck are you doing? youre a bio major with NO experience? wtf did you do in school? nothing? you got NO interneships? you got none of the perks that come with college?
you mean to tell em that youre in debt and jobless, and you didnt even have the guts to check your school for oppurtunities, and at least picked up 1 or 2 smmesters worth of intern experience?
nigger faggot, youre using your own incompetence to justify you being a jobless retard.
walk back to your school, look into alumni perks and for the love of god, get an internship.
>he'll be pushing trolleys at Coles at no cost to them being paid with my taxes
FUCKING YAY SO BASED
If you do clinical or industrial psychology it's actually pretty good, but let's face it most are probably doing social or critical (i.e. feminist) psychology, which produces more "check yo priv, cis scumlord" bullshit.
>literally get given a free certificate and get your degree essentially paid for
>still can't get a job despite having 2 tertiary qualifications
>decide to vote for a certain government because GUBMENT WILL SAVE ME
>STILL can't get a job
>complains about Australia
Mate, it's not societies fault you are a shit cunt and cannot get a job. People in other countries would literally kill to study medicine.
The reality is just this: you're probably just an unemployable asshole. You took a 3 year break out of highschool and expect to be able to compete with everyone else? What the fuck do you think this is? I wouldn't hire you either because chances are you a lazy, entitled asshole. Why didn't YOU take a job while you were under 18? Why didn't you work after highschool?
People say life isn't fair, but guess what, it actually fucking is in Australia. You had 3 FUCKING YEARS off in a time when you should have been working your ass off to build your life, and now life is hard for you. Welcome to reality cunt. Just thank your lucky stars we're well off enough as a country to fund your tertiary education (which you're probably putting in a half-assed effort on).
Fuck me mate you're a debit.
>there's no hard math in psychology
Psychology relies pretty heavily on statistics. If you suck at math you will be a shit psychologist. And good psychologists have no problem tearing their colleagues' methods to shit if they are really unscientific. A lot of shit research gets published, sadly, and people take it as gospel because it's in a journal.
>What those people don't tell you is that they're all shit and either graduated at the bottom of their classes or got good marks by relying on others for help or just downright cheating.
>There are some really bad universities in this country, and even the good ones manage to produce some really dense alumni. Simply having a degree or otherwise being "fully qualified" doesn't mean shit to employers.
Fellow aus here op, its not just you brother were all fucked atm
Bach Applied finance
Cert IV T&A
Cert IV Oh&s
And every other ticket under the sun..
Probably a cumulative 50k in training 10 years experience and it took me 6 months to get my current job which is finishing up in a few months.
Ten year ago there was endless apprenticeships in the paper for those who wanted them, now its min wafe of nothing.
Add to the rent trippling, power quadrupling, food doubling yet NO increase in unemployment benifits.. shits hard atm if you dont have family to rely on.
>It shouldn't be like this
Except it's not at all? This country has heaps of second chances. You just wasted yours.
A guy at work told me it's usually the faggot with a million tickets who is the worst worker. Was true at our workplace for sure. Most useful guy was like 18 and had no tickets at all, based country boy as fuck.
> There are some really bad universities in this country, and even the good ones manage to produce some really dense alumni. Simply having a degree or otherwise being "fully qualified" doesn't mean shit to employers.
degrees are a filter. unless the degree is absolutely necessary to do the work involved, it's a box to tick to reduce the number of applicants.
having said that, as a job seeker, some of the stupid shit that i've seen recruiters and employers do (or make the applicants do) is ridiculous.
Not that poster but also an unemployed biology graduate. Most uni's these days, including the G8 uni I went to don't provide the opportunity to do an internship, as they don't give a fuck about their students as long as they give them money.
>How many chances do you cunts need? If you didn't learn from your first big fuckup you deserve to die in a gutter.
is a job for life? no. even if you don't fuck up at the start it's not going to be smooth sailing until the end.
>BAWWWWW I did a fun degree at uni and didn't do any work while studying or even go for any work experience and no one will hire me WAAAHHHHH HUMANS LIKE >>32039132 JUST RUIN THE WHOLE WORLD EXCEPTING ME TO PUT IN SOME ACTUAL WORK.
ITT: a Labor voter is born.
how is that socialist paradise working for you?
maybe you can get a job in a factory. oh wait Straya doesn't have factroies anymore. workers are too expensive. everyone drives chinese cars and trucks made in thailand now.
I hate recruiters. I got swindled in to their tactics for a while "I have a client looking for x, if you do this exercise they might be interested". Exercise takes like a week to do. No response.
I still feel like an idiot even though that was ages ago now.
m8 you've got to find and make opportunity for yourself. It's so fucking easy to succeed in this job environment because of retards like you. Kill yourself.
> All these Retards talking about OP voting 'liberal'
You are aware that the Liberal Party of Australia is nothing like what you burgers describe as 'Liberals', right?
Wait, of course you're not.
i have to do the coding tests all the time. i don't really have an issues with that.
i have more of an issue with the "oh i can't tell you who the client is". for the last guy who did that, i went and found the real job ads and mentioned to him who the clients were the next time he called back.
Probably didn't have any himself and was resentful all these people making more, doing less.
It's 100% true, if I'm sitting in a 250t crane doing 3 lifts a day I'm working no where near what the concrete laborers are yet getting paid close to double.
The more skilled and educated you become, the less you rely on physical exertion and more your mind, its commonsense.
That said, tickets = jobs. Unfortunately for every job theres 1000 applicants so in my feild of work its 90% nepotism 10% merit and were STILL struggling
>graduated with a bachelors in advertising
>only a few openings in my area
>all want 5-8 years in industry
>"maybe I can re-locate to an area booming in the field!"
>relocation cost $$$
>decide to get a bullshit job to save up
>fast food and retail won't hire me, overqualified
>agencies won't hire me, not enough experience in the field
>too good or not good enough
>too proud to get on government assistance
I won't even waste time trying to explain this to boomers
Speaking from experience the appeal of jobs like this is that usually room and board are included because you are out in the middle of nowhere. No rent or bills means it is really easy to save even if your wages aren't huge.
was very obviously greentexting someone else's post, buddy
Nigga was the boss getting paid more than anyone actually but I know it's not true 100% of the time.
Pro tip, with project work, if you are paid ~too much~ they will only get you in for the minimum amount of time. To maximise your pay you want to get as much per day and get as many days as you can, without being the first on the list to be fucked off from site.
I have a 6 figure job and you don't soooooo, no?
Sounds like you may just be a shit cunt.
M80 even when I didn't have this job I was swimming in opportunity. You'd honest to god have to be disgustingly lazy or stupid to fail in Australia. There is so much opportunity here it is insane.
If your life has failed there is no one to blame but YOURSELF. Come to terms with that already you fucking loser.
Faggot if you're from the city your picture is from, put a resume together and apply at TSA, they'll hire any dipshit, sell foxtel for a year or two like the scumshit you are then go apply for a better entry level office job.
If you can't manage to be earning more than 40k a year within 18 month, you're fucking hopeless and deserve your poverty, even more than you already do for voting lib
Been doing this 10 years mate, I know how it works. Current job took me 6 months to get, saved 52000 cash in 7 months with a few holidays thrown in. Unfortunately ill be in the first cull because I was late to the party.
Sounds lile alots but after this job I probably wont find work for 6 more months so there months of expences drainimg things.
Life sucks green text time?
>live in west virginia
>work in shitty plastic factory
>make 9.96 an hour, with night pay, finally full time after 10 months of what what supposed to be a 3 month temp to hire job.
>safety meeting:lol tell us about problem
>tell boss about the load of shit thats broke, lock out tags, 6 tons support beams cracked, metal racks getting caught on plastic web pulling in with enough strength to lift a car, pinning me and others.
>get back to work
>next day doing the work of three people by myself on the line
>dirty stares from bosses
>cant keep up, hauling ass with no chance
>in office they say i want to be fired. Tells me to keep up or a temp will replace me.
>haul more ass, no luck
>Threatens me again, i almost get pulled into the grinder again (two dollar bolt to stop this)
Told him to walk me out. Tomorrow i see if i can get unemployment. I did technically quit but i am going to cite safety reasons, under state law thats acceptable. They told me on the way out i was going to be fired anyways.
Working on a Pharm. D in the U.S. Pharmacology is not too complicated a subject, but you're thrown a mountain of information in a short period of time. You have to memorize hundreds of trade, generic, chemical names, MOA, indications/contraindications, etc. Hospital fucking blows. It's rife with drama since you're surrounded by women and asshole doctors. I'd recommend compounding pharmacies and infusion centers, but stay the hell away from nuclear pharmacy. Also in the U.S. they're leaning towards letting in more women and extraverts who major in liberal arts instead of introverts with STEM degrees.
>My fault I don't have nepotism
>My fault I don't have money
>My fault I grew up in poverty
>My fault I can't better my situation because no money
I bet you were bought up in a rich entitled family you fuckhead. Get outta here.
>Been doing this 10 years mate
lol, how many houses have you lost to harpies?
I'm the same way, work all the summer months and job shuts down over winter. I just go into hibernation and save most of it though.
>Unless your athletic, healthy and confident as fuck you won't get passed the assessment day
Fuck off cunt get your ass off the couch and go for a run and you'll meet basic fitness easily. How fucking sickly are you that you can't meet basic military health standards? They take cunts with asthma these days ffs.
Why the fuck would you be unhealthy anyway, haven't you had time off and years of living comfortably at home? Are you a fucking invalid? Maybe you're just a fucking subhuman debit and should kill yourself to save the gene pool.
I know a thousand beta cunts with zero confidence who have made it past the selection process. General entry selection is easy-mode. I have no idea where you've gotten this idea that you need confidence for it. The military specializes in taking weak, shy teenages and turning them into soldiers.
threads like this shit me and people like OP are fit only for the gas chambers.
I live and work at a remote roadhouse on the Nullarbor, zero skill minimum wage job but we get housed and fed by the boss so no living expenses plus nowhere to spend money because 700kms from town. I've managed to save forty grand in 2 years and pay off all my debt.
We literally can never get enough staff, every leaves really quickly because they can't hack being remote. Always have ads on gumtree wanting staff. Thousands of unemployed cunts in the city whinging about their life and blaming Tones for shit.
All dole bludgers should die
The new norm man. Its a problem created by the western world. We do not produce anymore, we do not consume resources to make products, we do not WORK. A service industry does nothing but push money around until it leaves the country. The west is slowly being robbed by politicians and banks and everyone is to hopped up about unimportant social issues to notice. Expect everything to cost more. EVERYTHING. Look up how Argentina fell. Its a road map for just about every nation. AUS, US, etc.
>tfw healthy and smart but bad eyesight
I will never be a chair force pilot
Call a lawyer, start processes. Look into all the "Safety" related shit you can. You need to get balls rolling if you want to be taken as that being the actual reason you quit.
You are unemployed. You have the time to do this.
Nah I fully get it. Everyone from the politicians to those in high finance and banking are basically just taking turns shitting on the middle class. The increases happen slow enough that people dont complain too much, but those with families especially are going to be fucked in a few decades. Human greed man.
Go on gumtree and search "roadhouse jobs" always advertising. Alternatively just google the various roadhouses and ask them straight up if they have a job. They'll want you to email your resume so have it ready.
The job is simple, work at the roadhouse, serve customers, do a bit of cleaning and stacking shelves and that's it.
Be prepared to live in the middle of nowhere. Stay off the piss and save your money.
How would i get the money for the lawyer?
Also, in my state its up to an arbitrator. As for proving the safety issues, well i don't have access to the building, the security footage (they watch us like hawks, a camera every 10 feet, they yell at us if they catch you not working hard enough on them) and calling OSHA is pointless. OSHA showed up twice, never went past the door, everyone is pretty sure they get paid off. 10 minute conversation in the office with them and they leave.
>21 years old
>got a work in a hardware store 2 weeks
>earn 300 dollars a month
>work 10 hours a day
>want to make a nosejob to better my life
>its 3000 dollars here
>i will borrow the money
If only there was some way to remove greed from the system.
Maybe if we...just add some rules here to change it. Stuff like...standards. Just a bunch of rules that stipulate that you can't do less than a certain level, for safety, or wages, or whatever.
Oh, well. I guess there's no way to do it, or anything in the dictionary with a definition coming close, and it'll likely be bad for the economy to do it anyway.
tfw want to join the navy.
tfw when base is like 10km away from where i live now
tfw will just have to tough our first year of basic training + employment training before getting stationed at said base.
GET FUCKED CUNT.
I literally didn't have enough food on the table as a child. My parents are both alcoholics and unemployable. You need to go eat a fucking dick you professional victim fuckup. Want to know how I got tertiary qualified?
>suffered through highschool, worked 3 afternoons per week
>went to a country uni so I could afford a $100pw shitbox apartment filled with mold, rats, spiders, criminals and druggies so I could afford to live off centrelink + work on saturdays and do my uni study in a field that actually promises work, not fun.
>zero help from parents, slowly build up what furniture, cooking items, etc, I had from a single fold out couch to a full house.
>completed one of those free Cert IVs while doing 3rd year uni and working and an extra-curricular course that gave me a leadership qualification
>promoted at work in the mean time
>get a job straight out of uni
The difference between you and me? I actually fucking put in the work, and you just sat at home whining and playing the victim. So how about get fuck you lazy, entitled little fucking cunt.
You need to contact a governing body and report your workplace. Over in AUS we have worksafe but I'm sure America has something similar. Once they make a report you can sue the workplace and get lots of money.
>Be me, NEET for 5 years.
>It's monday morning, dole day is wensdey.
>Look at clock, it's 130pm, been playing mario kart 8 since i got up.
>Guess i should get some lunch
>TFW going over chinese shop now for the $10 lunch special.
lol keep working tax payer, someone needs to pay for this shit
I was living with my parents making $18/h 35 hours a week and saved 45k in 2 years
Feels good being Jewish as fuck with money
>MFW it didn't make a difference anyway
>MFW you're just looking for excuses
>MFW you have no one to blame but yourself
People can still join the ADF as they are always training people to replace people who don't want to reenlist, if you go after technical roles you will have more of a chance, and if you have civie training & or experience that crosses over you will be more competitive.
Of course shit like infantry and they will tell you to fuck off. 8/10 people i know who applied have passed and have or are doing basic, 1 needs to pass their fitness test first.
510$ per fortnight, forever.
But remember everything is far more expensive here so it probably isn't much more than you get unless you are 3rd world.
OSHA is the people who investigate unsafe job sites. they just bribe them. As for suing them, i have 300 dollars right now. i can't afford a lawyer, that company has more than 50 and is involved in numerous lawsuits, both ways. Best i can do right now is unemployment. Can't even unionize. First thing they tell you is talking about unions and talking to a union rep is instant firing. Company policy is written that they "dont need a union, it gets between the workers and the company", a crock of shit. Last time they tried they fired a bunch of people and threatened to shut down the plant.
>this much clutching at straws
M8 you're just a loser, live with it.
dude, fuckoff. its right there. i go to a low tier school and theres fucking internships ppouring in. go figure out the dates for that shit, dress up and go interview for an internship. thats your fuckign in, and youre fuckign ignoring it like a lazy fatass.
figure out the days other schools are doing their career days and attend them retard redneck
U WOT M80? I SWEAR ON ME FOOKIN MUM ILL FUKIN SMASH U M8.
Don't you talk smack about Grumman around me cunt.
if youre in here and bitching about a job, youre just a faggot trying to live in the days of economic recession, wher elife was simple and miserable. life is booming now and anybody thats complaining isnt participating.
fucking lazy swine
Oh cool. Good for you man.
Some good advice btw, if you haven't wasted your tertiary centrelink, you can now do you your pilots licence via HECs. Ill find you the link. What state are you in m8?
Healthcare is free here, but shitty compared to europe
Housing I am not sure about, you will get rent assistence I believe but it is not enough to live off unless you live out west in the bush
You heard me.
Engineering and design work better with blank checks and zero private profit.
Here you are mate. I'm pretty sure Swinburne aren't the only ones, and I think if you do it this way you also get a bachelor of aviation as well.
Give it a good look. That page has info on the HECS-HELP side of it too.
Good luck with being a pilot bro.
>did unpaid internship in school
>got a 18k a year job one week out of school
>getting a raise to 25k in 5 years
>work hard 60 hours a week
>all the faggots in this thread who don't want to work
Because "fuck off we're full."
The European Liberal, often times called neoclassical, or simply classical liberal, is libertarian in its actual form and function.
You never e xpect it to turn on you until the free market fixes YOU.
Thanks anon, I'm actually doing it part time through an aero club. I'm not too interested in doing yet another degree (already have 2 down). Another thing I'm considering is this:
The thing is with work at the minute I'm better off studying part time so I can keep my highly paid job. Once that gravy train ends I might do full time study.
I'm in the US.
Austrian economics don't work bro.
They simply don't. The math doesn't add up for anyone but the people most invested in keeping everyone else out of the loop.
If you don't work on growth, your bottom line might be positive, but your economy shrinks at a constant basis, and everyone gets fucked.
In about 30 years, we'll confuse Argentina and Australia. Similar names, similar living conditions, what's the difference, right?
I'm not the guy you think I am.
But believe me they have the pick of the litter ATM for infantry etc.
So many young cunts are pumped cos of cod and shit.
I'm employed mind you and would never dream of being a bullet catcher
Argentina broke because of debt. Now they are a bunch of faggots screaming muh neoliberalismo and slowly decaying because of their socialist policies. Argentina is an example of the failure of socialism.
Literally every country that has deviated from free market policies has ended up failing, you are delusional.
>mfw temporarily embarrassed millionaires can't see past their anecdotal experiences and realize the middle class is basically dead and the economy is being pillaged
stupid ignorant retard, you dont think theres entire books devoted to the topic of growth in economies?
you dont think that this isnt shit you learn in business econ 101? you dont think that growht is the most obvious fuckign thing to owning a business and managing an economy? you dont think the world isnt dozens of steps ahead of you when it comes to shit that matters?
shit you didnt get a degree in.
shit you know nothing about.
shit you think you know something about.
shit fed to shit eaters.
youre a fuckign ignorant dumbass stupid fucking invadfer of the americas. your e aufkcing dumbass. a fucking ignorant god damned mother fucking retarded ignorant.
Literally every free market country has failed or is failing. You know why debt ends up being a problem? Because you don't grow enough to cover it.
>b-but economic multipliers don't EXIST
>b-but muh free MARKET
Capitalism is the WORST economic system ever devised, except for all of the other ones; it's also best when regulated and tuned for growth.
Yeah a job at coles at 25. You'll get work there easily earlier.
Anyway. There's no point arguing with you. You're a professional victim. If you really think you deserve a job like being a pilot after bludging at home like OP for 3 years you're dreaming.
Enjoy being a loser. The rest of us who actually put in the work while we were young will enjoy laughing at you.
>didn't get an internship
>probably has some shitty useless degree like chemistry or something and didn't bother to get his masters
>HUUR COMMUNISM THE 1% ARE TAKING OVER
Of course growth is the most obvious thing to owning a business.
I'm saying that people will ignore it because growth costs money, and money impacts the bottom line. Being in the green constantly with ever shrinking numbers is, to these people, better than temporarily being in the red with much larger numbers, until you're pulling a profit and that profit begins to skyrocket.
It's evident in modern economies that focus on subsistence that they cannot and DO NOT last.
But it looks good on paper!
You're an ignorant dumbass if you think the market as a whole could possibly grow when the aggregate demand is nearly nonexistent after 40 years of toxic economic decisions propped up solely by a debt bubble.
>Literally every free market country has failed or is failing.
That is objectively not true, you can't see past the shit that you talk about in your circlejerks with other leftist cunts. The countries that are suffering the most are the least free market ones of europe, spain, portugal, italy.
The ones that are total failures are the ones in south america that have adopted socialism. Even people like Hollande have changed at least in rhetoric to a more freemarket outlook.
Btw pic related is where the middle class went.
Nobody cares about your shitty country
Go back to your basement
dude, look at what youre typing. this shit you accuse them of not doing is entry level consideration in economics. its the basis for simple managerial growth.
>thinks its just about total revenues
>doesnt think businesses try to maximize their growth rates
>doesnt think businesses work together to make their practices happen
>doesnt think owning a business is more than just making money.
youre whats wrong with the economy bro. retards liek you try to start non-profits and businesses, get a good amount of money and then fuck everyone over in the end because youre aretarded uneducated ignorant slop.
all the shit you keep preaching about is the first piece of material you learn in any econ class - "growth, and not going for the full green".
>>king's share of workers makes a stagnant amount
But as the graph shows people are moving between brackets, thus making more.
Australians are the most entitled faggots in the world.
Yes, it's the first thing you learn in macroeconomics, in fact.
But, contrary to that, people are taking the OPPOSITE ROAD. They say to cut spending and revenues, which shrinks GDP severely.
Businesses do the same. You don't think all of them are pulling more and more profit, do you? Any and all businesses that 'downsize' are doing exactly what I've outlined.
They eventually shutter and die.
Why do you kunts get so mad though? Is it because he enjoyed his free time and actually lived as a human being and not a wage slave like the rest of you are? Why would anyone ever actually enjoy working at a shitty job and be proud simply because you get to trade your time and effort for digital numbers in your bankcards ? Isn't that voluntarily slavery through a brainwashed society expecting everyone to "contribute"? when someone says that word it simply means they're sayin "hey, I'm a wage slave, I'm happy with every fucked up thing going on around me but as long as I don't get fired and continue sucking my boss's dick, I can buy stupid shit that I don't need and pay tax so my government can use that to further making their friends richer in effort to stay in power."
Also fuck all the dickheads and army shills saying you should join the army and killing people for oil and "freedom" if you want money. That's literally being a legalised criminal scum working for the extremely rich to rob other part of the world drier. Don't even start with the left and right bullshit. You all should know by now both sides are fucking puppets working for their masters.
If you kunts really think you're doing good for the economy, and for some reason people always think if it's good for the economy it's "good" for everyone else in the world, without evem knowing what the fuck the actual "economy" these lying scums are marketing just so they can further fuck us all slowly but surely.
There are more stuff to say but I can't be fucked as seeing so many fucking shills and retards in every Australian thread it's not even funny. Believe in your own mind, don't let others force you to do what you don't want to do, once the nuke goes boom we're all gonna peace out anyway kunts just get loose and live life happily. Don't seek for happiness in materialism and mainstream propagandas, seek for it within yourself.
Australian here, just nuke us, I don't give a shit.
>get my masters degree in burger technology
>do 8 unpaid internships
>spend 10k getting my bun handling certificate, grill operator certificate, customer service training, condiment applications certification...
>finally graduate with 3.9 GPA
>have trouble finding a job because not a 4.0 GPA
>decide to get my PhD in burger technology with a bacon burger specialization
>finally ready to enter the job market
>my dad manages to get me a temporary burger gig for 3 months
>get laid off
>spend the next 6 months unemployed
>government gets rid of the minimum wage, not I can finally get a job
>$5/h starting, can finally pay off my 120k in student loans
>live 60km from work because the cheapest rent in the city is $3000 a month for a single room apartment
>privileged cislord scum entitled shitsucker
>If everything costs less then that wouldn't matter. Back in the 1930's and 1940's 1 grand was considered a lot of money.
>lol. he thinks if people were paid $1.50 an hour things would cost less.
>cutting spending and revenues
The historical narritive would suggest that this is the right path.
>shrinks GDP severely
m8 paying people to dig holes or blow things up would raise GDP
>Businesses do the same
Government is not a business
The graph makes this distinction, yes, but the economic multiplier for those making a larger amount is much lower.
You might think that more people making more is nice, but if they don't spend, the economy doesn't grow, it ends up stagnating. The free market, in essence, will "fix" these people making a high income.
incorrect, the only thing that would increase the buying power of the dollar would be to increase to value of each dollar, either by removing notes from circulation or backing each dollar with something of value
The biggest thing to do is lie, lie, lie on your resume.
Why on Earth would you say you didn't hold down ANY jobs for 3 years?
Like if I wanted to get hired at Best Buy, I would simply put on my resume that I worked at a RadioShack for 2 years. I mean, shit, what are they gonna do? Call back to confirm when it's some $11 an hour job? Only for real jobs ($40k+) do they actually call references.
Oh stfu you nigger ass NEET. No one who matters gives a fuck about you or your pathetic ass words. Go fuckin die like wouldve already occurred had nature not been impeded by busybody faggot progressive types.
>Get Comp Sci degree
>all of two internships in college were available
>shockingly they went to the few qt 3.1415 girls in the program that applied
>Turns out that those places didn't even want actual workers
>They just had unpaid interns for a year at a time and replaced them like clockwork that way
>everyone wants 3-4 years min experience in field for starting positions that are little more than tech support
>many places even wanting 1-2 years code writing experience for languages that came out less than 8 months ago
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
Youth allowance wile being independent is ~420$ a fortnight. You can get like 60$ extra for rent assistance. So 480$ total. Rent will cost 150$ a week for a room leaving 180 a fortnight for food, transportation ect. Keep in mind everything cost 2x as burger land it isn't alot of money.
The economy grows when more is produced, as workers become more valueable they are paid more.
Of course we can never prove eachother wrong so there is no real point to these arguments
Also don't talk to shills like this, as you all should be aware /pol/ is completely fucked and full of government shills spreading disinfos and provoking with comments like these. Mods are also working with them so whatever you see on /pol/ front page nowadays are most likely shills shilling shills to distract us from the threads with information that matters.
>the historical narrative would suggest that this is the right path.
I'm sorry, but you seem to have missed everything except one failure of Keynes; that the stagnation crash in the 70s wasn't predicted.
In point of fact, literally everything that has happened since was predicted by Keynes(ians) in exactly the way it's happened, and we're only now getting to the bad parts of it now that the consumer debt bubble has popped.
No, plenty of people would afford it. They'll likely shutter the doors because of a general lack of profit, though. With lower prices domestically, but much higher energy prices abroad, relative to the USD, domestic deflation would actually devalue the dollar abroad. It's why the yuan and euro aren't as big as the dollar.
>hurr durr Im too good for all these jobs!!!11!!!
I fuckin hate these uni grad faggots who failed to learn anything useful in school, like how the real world works.
Just go get ANY job and work. Dont fuckin come back saying there isnt jobs, there is! He's probably too much of a faggot to actually go and get one though
>Let me explain to you what being a welfare leech
Suicide is always an option.
I was about to claim that the economy grows when the demand is higher, thus requiring more growth and production, creating value for workers. Realistically, a full Keynesian model can't work...but neither can an Austrian model, or the cobbled mess our current model is.
>graduate CS from an australian uni in 2013
>get 3 $70k offers from australian companies
>get 1 $100k offer from an american company
sounds like you didn't do any open source shit while you were studying
Keynes didn't predict the great depression
I was referring to the fact that budget cuts worked well in Britain and Australia during the great depression which saw unemployment fall faster than in keynsian-inspired FDR land
Would be Aussie, i had cert 4 and dip in IT - networking and car't even get a job doing help desk shit. IT & CS is over saturated and will take some good dick sucking skills to get a job.
should of studied accounting at uni anon. I know plenty of people who literally had no work experience study accounting and were working full time within 1 month of graduating uni.
Australian born accounting students today is actually less than in the early 2000's, Australian employers don't want to hire Fong Lee or Muhammad Derkastahn
>Keynes didn't predict the great depression
Yes he did. In 1919.
>If we aim at the impoverishment of Central Europe, vengeance, I dare say, will not limp. Nothing can then delay for very long the forces of Reaction and the despairing convulsions of Revolution, before which the horrors of the late German war will fade into nothing, and which will destroy, whoever is victor, the civilisation and the progress of our generation.
Mises did not, however. this is why KEynesian economic doctrine was favored up until the 1970s.
>What the fuck am I supposed to do?
1. get a github account.
2. get a SEEK account and make sure that it's public to recruiters. fill it out with your uni education and any relevant work experience.
3. get a LinkedIn account. fill it out with your uni education and any relevant work experience. put a photo up. search for students you studied with and add them.
4. stack your github account with code from projects that you work on in your own time.
5. apply for grad/low experience roles on SEEK/LinkedIn.
Op, what you need to do is go capture and train some kangaroos and put them on harnesses that pulls a chariot around.
This is what all tourists want from Australia. We will come just to give you money. You'll become a national treasure.
Billion dollar idea given to you for free. Don't fuck this up.
>sitting at home in a bathrobe watching ABCNews24 whilst everyone else is out working.
who the fuck even hire these robots seriously? TOO FUCKING OBVIOUS.
>still name calling on internet
interesting. there were complaints about the situation for accounting grads in today's AFR:
>>liberals come into power, fuck yeah.
>>they get rid of all sorts of funding for apprenticeships, like 2000 dollars that goes towards your tools, they get rid of tax breaks for small business, there are a lot less options for traineeships and apprenticeships now thanks to the government.
Liberals want you to be dependant on government. Labor is a bunch of Leftist to, they're interested in training Asian immigrants, not you
Sorry your country to retarded, but I can't feel bad for you because most of you are retarded to and shit up the internet
>dat military feel
>65k a year
>don't actually work
>dat job satisfaction.
If you're not in the ADF as a young 20 something year old, your pleb tier. If you stay past 25, you're a chump.
>So many young cunts are pumped cos of cod and shit.
So this means kids are pumped to kill ruskis and arabs. Before pearl harbor murrika didnt want to go into another world war. Media is drawing the battle lines for us.
As much as the guy going on about how easy it is in Australia is a cunt he's kinda right. I'm starting my final year of my bachelor of business majority in accounting next year and fully expect to get a job as soon as I finish it. You just have to do research before going to uni on what jobs are in demand.
>tfw I'm going to be on 70k a year starting after just 4 years study
I live with my mother, who can barely afford to feed herself at the moment, let alone help me, no money to spend on bullshit like an apartment for myself, or furniture for it.
HECSing all the uni fees. Already completed a Cert IV in Business (For free ofc).
Working in a bakery where I've worked for over a year, but am getting no shifts because they'd rather pay some kid a lower wage or some indian off the books, while I'm left to fend for myself.
I don't see how I would be in a better situation than you. About to start the last semester of my last year. And from what I'm hearing from the recent graduates, the job market for young people is just fucked up.
>promoted at work
>get a job straight out of uni
That's not how things work anymore you clueless dinosaur.
Things don't work so easy anymore. And I'm not comparing this to the 70s, shit, 6-7 years ago, the situation was way smoother.
Things are different. What applied to you, does not always apply for everyone else, forever.
So i can have shelter,eat food and have clothes on my back?
yeah, I've read similar things over the past couple of months. Personally from what I see Australian students don't necessarily find it too hard to find accounting work as internationals do. However I do agree with the pay rate. Its pretty shitty for starting out. $40k or so for graduates.
A friend of mine has spent years getting trained to be a mechanic, and it's taking him a bit longer to find a job than he expected. So what does he do?
He's now working as a baker. Got an apprenticeship started and everything (getting paid $8.5/h, full time). And because I know him ,and his boss, he's gonna stay there for a few more years at least (he's young)
I'm happy for him because he's working and all, but if you work so hard trying to become something you want, and then just take ANY job, what was the point of trying in the first place?
By the time he realises that this whole baking bullshit is not what he wants to do, and that he wants to go back to automotive, it's gonna be too late for him.
He'll have qualifications, but no relevant experience.
m8, I was in a similarish circumstance. 21, never worked a day in my life, half way through uni.
Started applying for all sorts of shit-kicker jobs. No one interested. Starting to despair.
The answer? Nepotism.
Do have any friends that are employed at the moment? I got my first job only because of a mate of mine. It was shit, but it was a first job.
Life's not fair. But all that means is you can't play it fair.
Out of curiosity, how many of u butthurt neetfags in here who can't get a job went to a top 10 college in their field?
I wonder to how many people does >>32040721
apply to in this thread
I've been working since i was 14, instead of being a lazy fuckwit.
You only have yourself to blame