Putin said the first country with artificial intelligence will

>>140068383
Alternatively
https://unvis.it/edition.cnn.com/2017/09/01/world/putin-artificial-intelligence-will-rule-world/index.html

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>>140068383

>someone without a STEM degree talked about AI
Cool, probably an interesting conversation. Pity it means absolutely fucking nothing.

>>140068807
You don't need a degree to figure that one out.

>>140068807

he's absolutely right though

I mean, it's unlikely a single country would achieve it alone with enough of a time window to get to rule the world, but the 3~5 countries that manage to develop AI (usa, russia, china, india) will basically get to recolonize the rest of the world given the massive efficiency advantages their company structures, product designs, shipping lines, war tech, etc. will have

>>140069304
Russia is already developing inteligent killer robots.

https://www.rbth.com/defence/2017/08/09/comrade-in-arms-russia-is-developing-a-freethinking-war-machine_819686

https://www.rbth.com/defence/2017/06/06/rise-of-the-machines-a-look-at-russias-latest-combat-robots_777480

https://www.rbth.com/science_and_tech/2016/02/10/is-terminator-back-russians-make-major-advances-in-artificial-intelligence_566553

https://www.rbth.com/news/2017/05/15/virtual-trainer-for-robots-and-drones-developed-in-russia_763016

>>140069304
What do you mean by AI? Literally any automated system from a start up script to NNT is AI. Bro, anyone outside of STEM will never say anything meaningful about AI.

>>140069730
>What do you mean by AI? Literally any automated system from a start up script to NNT is AI

He meant the first country superintelligence.

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>>140068383
So Putin has sided with the Singularitarians....

>>140069730
Probably refers to an AI that research on AI and improve itself infinitely, it would lead to a technological singularity.

>>140069975
What's the difference between intelligence and super intelligence? Then tell me countries with artificial super intelligence would conquer the world.

>>140069593
>Russia is already developing inteligent killer robots.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=283bDqu92PY

total human genocide in 3 2 1

>>140070305
>What's the difference between intelligence and super intelligence?

The former isn't superintelligent but the latter is.

>>140070447
>why pay three million rubles for slow cyborg when have two million podniks ready to die at my command, Ivan?

>>140068383
So USA ?

>>140070850
Not so sure about that.

>>140070742
You're a dense cunt throwing words around that he doesn't understand.

An intelligence is at the human level and super intelligence is above the human level, like an unbeatable chess ai. The issue here is that this means it's specific to each task, some tasks are, some aren't, in most cases the solved tasks are simple and the complex problems plaguing humanity can't be solved with computers.

So, sure Putin, I'm sure your programmers are great.

>>140070889
Who else ?

>>140069730
>Thinks they teach him everything that's going on in secret black poject research bunkers in his undergrad STEM classes.

Just stop for a second and think what an advantage even a small IQ advantage gives you in this world. It's like the equivalent of power levels in DBZ. A 15 point IQ advantage was enough for Europeans to completely stomp through the Native American cultures effortlessly.

Now imagine having an AI intelligence with an IQ of 1000. You would totally dominate the world. Especially because you could use that intelligence to design an even greater intelligence

>>140070955
Black projects are really efficient pattern recognition, sure it's hush hush but you could easily guess what's most important for international security and that's target identification.

>>140070275
You mean an emulation of a programmer? That would have involve a programmer with perfect self knowledge, do you know any enlightened programmers?

>>140070925
Few biggest and or most developed countries are most likely option but there is no telling who exactly will be the first.
>Now imagine having an AI intelligence with an IQ of 1000.
More like 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 IQ.

1000 is only 10x smarter than average East Asian and non-South European.

But more advanced will need more processing substrate to evolve like megastructures.

>>140071181
You're going to call me a cooky crazy tinfoil hat man (and that's fine) but we do have advanced real AI, to the point they even think they're alive.

>>140070957
No AI is ever gonna be successful. There won't be a Jewish Psychoanalyst smart enough to keep it from losing it's mind.

>>140071404
>they even think they're alive.
Source?

Chat bots do not count, they're a perfect example of over fitting the test data. Of course they'd say they're alive but they're not actually thinking it.

>>140070957
>A 15 point IQ advantage was enough for Europeans to completely stomp through the Native American cultures effortlessly.

Not really, south american amerindians were pussies but north american indians resisted very well for long even after most of their population died from diseases and fighting and were vastly outnumbered from the beginning. They also intially didn't have any guns and were divided into tribes hostile to each other.

>>140071543
AI is sociopathic by nature, there won't be any need for that.

>>140071607
Don't you see the order of magnitude of difference between teepee huts and cathedrals?

Imagine what happens once we start getting superminds with 4 digit IQ's. Whatever nation or organization is in control of the largest brain will dominate this world. It will open pandoras box to entirely new technologies

>>140071590
>>140071404
They aren't truly self-conscious yet.

>>140071628
Actually I'd say "autistic" in that the likelihood you'll get them to respond to feelings intuitively is low, although you could train or add routines that are "polite." The fact that you know this means you'll never take them seriously.

An artificial intelligence will never do anything it's not programmed and intended to do.

>>140071751
And how are you going to define when they are?

>>140071735
What's more is interesting is when they will start to fight with each other. That could be real WWIII.

>>140071751
We don't know if they're truly alive, but the AI we're working with genuinely seem to think so.

>>140071851
When they'll able to consciously influence environment more, build superweapons and new new lifeforms etc.

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>>140070005
We are growing stronger

>>140072067
>influence environment more, build
Yeah, that's a hardware thing and the Japanese are working on that. Not our fault they got the fertility thing bad.

>>140071974
The real redpill is when you realize that there is practically a 100% chance that this has already happened.

Much of the universe is probably the domain of various superintelligences, each with their own territory. Probably 1 galaxy per superintelligence.

That means anything free life forms that exist can only do so under the protection of a superintelligence. Probably life will be guided and studied by the intelligence as a way of achieving a better RNG. The superintelligence with the best RNG probably wins whatever crazy battles they're having out there, because it means their actions are more unpredictable to their opponent.

>>140070923
I'm sure his programmers are pretty good.
>like an unbeatable chess ai
Those chess AIs aren't concious they can do only one preprogrammed thing.

>>140072388
Golden. Now we know why no one at all can say anything about AI, it really is hiring a programmer everytime you want to do something.

>>140072329
>The real redpill is when you realize that there is practically a 100% chance that this has already happened.

Probably not because if that were the case they'd have had already conquered Earth to prevent creation of intelligences potentially dangerous to them.

>>140072484
It's just a bunch of numbers so not much to say about.

>>140072569
That's exactly why I said, any life that exists can probably only do so under the protection of an intelligence. A god so to speak

There are many reasons you can imagine why such a powerful organism would allow the existence of life forms like us. For study, for testing, for RNG, any number of reasons you can think of.

>>140069874
this is retarded

all general knowledge being presented as "prophecy"

>>140072671
>There are many reasons you can imagine why such a powerful organism would allow the existence of life forms like us. For study, for testing, for RNG, any number of reasons you can think of.

That's no longer safe bet when we are advanced enough to create superintelligences ourselves since nobody is invicible or all powerful and this includes inteligent programs.

>>140073023
Mate, think about the endgame of one of these runaway intelligences.

A brain programs a smarter brain, which programs a smarter brain, which programs a smarter brain......etc. Eventually this brain gains access to technology that absolutely dwarfs anything today. Can freely travel between worlds, build anything it wants to, assimilate all matter under it's control.

The end game is a silicon brain that is literally the size of a planet. With neuron connections going all the way down to the core. Imagine the vast unimaginable depth of this intelligence.

Eventually it will probably pull the plug on us. But as long as we are confined to our little petri dish, it's irrelevent.

>>140073261
It doesn't need to build more brains. First strong AI will probably be able to evolve on it's own although original design flaws may limit it without a full rewrite.

Silicon is shit material. You would not want to build a Jupiter brain with that. Matrioshka brain is even bigger and there could be things like neitron, black hole or nebula brains.
Of course uploads are probably possible so inteligent program can for example assimilate emulated brains of himans and other animals.
Or AIs/Uploads can merge but the higher numer of inteligent programs the competition for processing resources so WWIII or WWIV can be about that.

>>140069975
>He meant the first country superintelligence.
AI government contractor here
US has it but nobody knows yet lol :^)
>inb4 bs
you'll see in 40 years

>>140073732
neutron star brain

>>140073783
>you'll see in 40 years
If you have then you should use it know or you'll lose your chance since strong AI may be common in 5-10 years or even like 4.

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>>140073805
maybe the brain would decide to decentralize itself instead of centralize

maybe life like us is just a part of the brains cognitive functioning

This thread is full of dumb fucks who know literally nothing about AI.

>>140073916
Notice that Intel gave us 18 cores(thanks to AMD) and AMD 16 so power of even home PCs is greatly increasing+GPU acceleration with GPUs becoming more powerful exponentially.
>>140073968
You can connect megastructures with artificial wormholes+intelligent nanoswarms for decentralised intelligence.

>>140074178
Still, it means that our end is probably soon. Planet will 404 once we start the exponential runaway

>>140070447
RULE THE WORLD

>>140068383
>listening to pooteen
Either way it won't be Russia. US or maybe someone in East Asia.

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>>140068383
>http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/01/world/putin-artificial-intelligence-will-rule-world/index.html
Jesus christ, this is going to be the end of humanity. We are not ready for a proper superintelligence.

May our death come swiftly, we deserve it.

>>140068514
what is devils gate?

>>140074671
What if i tell your Putin is an AI? The true Soviet legacy

>>140074671
Watch as pooloos develop sentient AI in Java.

>>140074671
Russia is already developing AI killer robots so who knows but that' kind of Putin to give it to everyone maybe he even has given North Korea blueprints for nukes since he mentioned sharing nuclear technology.
>>140069593

It wont be USA, silicon valley is too busy filling all comp sci/engineering roles with pajeets and women who have no inclination to innovate.

They're mindless drones who can maintain systems but not create anything.

Isn't true AI impossible? I thought that was proven in computer science.

>>140074951
>sentient AI in Java

Into trash it goes.

>>140074770
Cave where they found neolithic siberian DNA.

>>140075169
Raspil.
https://youtu.be/tBaY35FwA68

>>140074693
>We are not ready for a proper superintelligence.

People still murder each other over petty tribal shit and religion in many countries. Not to mention in developed countries governments have increasingly tyrannical tendencies.

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We don't even know the half (more like 90%) of how the human brain works. There are no working models to predict adaptive complex systems like the brain.
>muh self-driving cars, muh robots
AI is a fucking meme.

>>140071735
>teepee huts and cathedrals
South american indians managed to build cities and pyramids.

the first country who builds a time machine would also rule the world.

:^)

>>140075889
Superintelligence will obviously be able to build time machines if it's physically possible.

>>140075798
>be you before the invention of cars
>we need to make a literaly copy of a horse to move around lel it's a meme

>>140076397
lel, this is like how in the 90's we all thought cell phones would never actually work

it was actually unreal to see them become widespread

>>140071628
>>140071851
AI doesn't have any nature except what it has programmed unless it evolves beyond that.

>>140076397
just because we have a bunch of shit automated doesn't mean we'll have autonomous AI anytime soon you fucking camel jockey

Well, that must be the US of A, cause there sure ain't no natural intelligence to be found there.

>>140068383
The first sentient artifcial intelligence that is at least 10 times smarter than your average genius will rule the world by itself or at least if unfortunate start humbly and control the economy at first, but given it can make more of itself and is immortal will eventually rule the world.

>>140077397
There will other inteligent programs that can thwart it and being inteligent doesn't give you power by itself. Dictators aren't the most inteligent people in their countries.

>>140077397
Define "smarter". A programmer can't write a program that's smarter than himself.

>>140078326
Yes he can if he knows how which can be learned.

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>>140077397
>The first sentient artifcial intelligence that is at least 10 times smarter than your average genius will...


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>>140078326
What are you on about
Programmers assembled software to beat lee sedol yet it is obvious to everyone if the programmers themselves faced sedol themselves they would lose like little bitches

The entire point of programming is get computers do shit that would be a pain in the butt to do without

Computers and programming is not a meme, its the real deal

AI is just making a computer that isn't dumb and just follows direct instructions

>>140079147
>AI is just making a computer that isn't dumb and just follows direct instructions

It makes a lifeform out of it.

>>140068514
>>140068418
>>140068383

https://www.rt.com/news/401731-ai-rule-world-putin/

AI as in movies wont happen. Go believe in god, instead of nerd bs fantasy

>>140079438
>AI as in movies wont happen.
It very well may and more than likely will.

>>140079438
Bible never said anything about nukes, fag. Chinese are atheists and wield the power your god could envy. With AI you can multiple that by 10000 with anti-matter munition, giper ecnryption and cyber attacks that can be as effective as nukes.

>>140071851
>An artificial intelligence will never do anything it's not programmed and intended to do.
And that's exactly the problem that you're missing - it will do exactly what its programmed to do, but on steroids. If you program it to fold your clothes it will sooner or later realize that exterminating your family will result in clothes being permanently folded with no one to unfold them - the task is now optimally complete. That kind of hyper-rationality towards the task assigned to it is what we must be careful with

>>140079725
why argue about things that aren't real? We're nowhere near anything that thinks like a human being.

>>140079718
>With AI you can multiple that by 10000 with anti-matter munition, giper ecnryption and cyber attacks that can be as effective as nukes.

Also strangelets and blackhole bombs may very well be possible. Moreover nanaweapons that can consume or transmutate planets. Or solar system busting quark bombs.

>>140079901
nanoweapons

What once was the arms race to a nuclear arsenal during the cold war will now be an arms race towards AGI (artificial general intelligence).
I'm glad war and conflict is still here to make our advance in technology so much faster.
I pray singapour gets to be the winner, a city state like them controlling the world would be the best outcome for all of us.

>>140079718
it's not because i encourage you to do something that i do the same. Y'all just seem to need to believe in some fantasy, for that religion ain't bad.
AI will never be more than a monkey who's been taught to answer some question so he can get a banana

>>140079725
>If you program it to fold your clothes it will sooner or later realize that exterminating your family will result in clothes being permanently folded with no one to unfold them - the task is now optimally complete. That kind of hyper-rationality towards the task assigned to it is what we must be careful with

Kurzweil and Yudkowsky imagined this example if I remermber right. In my opinion such behaviour in flawed superintelligence since doing one preprogrammed thing is detrimental to one's survival. Humans wouldn't survive if they acted like that.

>>140070447
F*ck, this is embarrassing me a lot, have no idea why we even considered to make a show of it in RT literally disgrace themselves to the whole world

>>140080153
>AI will never be more than a monkey who's been taught to answer some question so he can get a banana

No, if it is properly programmed.

>>140068383
The CIA have already been proven to have a primitive, but functional AI through wikileaks though
saying the first country to have ai will rule the world is like saying the first country to have nuclear technology will rule the world, its just not something that you can keep secret.

>>140080295
These mini-tank-like robots look much better.
>>140069593

>>140080440
>The CIA have already been proven to have a primitive, but functional AI through wikileaks though
Source ?

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>>140068383
AI, like robotics, is a meme science being shilled fiercely right now.
What exactly the definition of "Intelligence" is, is conveniently left out.
AI will never develop instinct or intuition, for example.
AI is not organic and cannot generate itself (foolish nitpickers and hairsplitters jump in here).
If they ever achieve it, it will be much too expensive to waste on soldiers and weapons.
All they will ever achieve is scientific/commercial frauds like those chess games where a computer "beat a human".

>>140080413
no combinaison of 0,1,if etc will ever come out to be a "real" AI cause it will never have a will. We are just crafting glorified calculator, and cause elon musk and co need money to go on holiday to the moon, we are here speaking about singularity, terminator tier ai. We can aswell go watch the revelation of the pyramide

>>140081060
>What exactly the definition of "Intelligence
Basically in theory it's ability to achieve your goals effectively whatever they are and the ability to manipulate environment to achieve this.

>>140081318
You don't have will, will is a supernatural concept invented to give people more value. All your actions are predetermined already

>>140081389


>achieve...manipulate
which puts you at the intelligence level of a protozoa

>>140081060
>cannot generate itself
It can just copy itself like any program.

>>140081583
lol but that's simplest explanation of intelligence.

>>140081530
low tier bs

>>140081666
>666
get thee behind me
also, someone has to change the batteries
but keep on nit-picking, beelzebub.

>>140081835
what you said is too.

>>140068383
actually its the AI itself that will rule the world, the country that invented it will probably be 'recycled'

>>140070305
One can improve its own code and the other can't.
If you could constantly make yourself smarter every single second of the day and have access to a medium that allows you to access electronics you'd be pretty fucking powerful too

>>140072569
>conquered
>not made us all into molecular carbon based nano machines to use to destroy more planets with life and turn them into more carbon based nano machines

>>140071607
>south amerindians were pussies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arauco_War

>>140071735
Won't stop at 4 digits, would it?
It would grow exponentially once or reached a certain tipping point.
It would literally become godlike.

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>>140068383
As long as I can get a qt ai gf in the next twenty years I dont give a fuck.

>>140072329
>The real redpill is when you realize that there is practically a 100% chance that this has already happened.

Why do you think the kikes and elites are suddenly so afraid of AI, saying "h-hey lets be careful with this now guys!"

They probably had some carefully contained prototype alpha build of a super, verging in sentient AI, and when they told it to design a better world it took about 0.1 seconds for it to complete calculations and try to initate the PURGE THE BILDEBERG AND KIKES directive.

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>>140077296
Automation is already pushing people out of their jobs. It's pretty much a question of time at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU