Flags

got a huge dump coming

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Here you go

>>137515496
That won't work OP. You're trying to outsneak master sneaks, by pretending to be what you're not. Not only that, you set yourself up for failure by maintaining a facade that will eventually have to come down.

If you don't wanna look like a nazi in public, dress respectably and fly a US flag. There are tons of incidents where average joes punch out a antifa college kid.

If you want to fly a fashy symbol, Fly the Black Sun or some other type of ancient nordic symbol. Fucking start your own group.

Or accept that you will be doxxed and ridiculed and go full George Lincoln Rockwell. Fly the Nazi Flag proudly. If someone calls you a Nazi, proudly proclaim you are, and why you'd be stupid to not be a Nazi in today's age.

We literally have violent leftists and communists/Anarchists rioting down our city streets and you're worried about keeping your shit office job, or the approval of your high school friends.

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Have an idea that draws on Confederate and Nazi flags

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>>137516909
sage the shill

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>>137515496

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>>137515496

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>>137515496
Hey look, I found a flag leftists won't carry.

>>137517211
lol hard to disagree with that one

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>>137515496

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>>137517530

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>>137517631

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>>137517665

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>>137515496

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>>137517735

>>137517048
this is everything. you win. so much finesse. a perfect burn.

>>137515496
We will never EVER agree on a flag or symbol to use and even if we ever did normies likely wouldn't want to support it either. Our only hope is using the core symbols of our nation. The US flag, the fasces, the eagle, etc. Any other weird symbol or flag will be one in a sea of 1,000 completely different symbols being used by other groups that nobody will ever remember or stand behind other than you and your 12 friends. Normies already love the flag (despite what the media would have you believe) and you can buy a US flag from thousands of different sources so why don't we just use it?

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>>137517799

>>137515496
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>>137517348
These are too complex.

A good flag should have simple geometry with streamlined but striking symbols and a strong/contrasting color scheme.

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>>137515496

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>>137517870
Like this one

>>137517838
this. it must have an eagle, fasces, at least one star, and stripes. no union shield if possible

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>>137515496

This. Need a new movement and not cling to the past. We're fucked if we keep flying the CSA battle flag and Nazi flags. Change and adapt.

Liking the flags guys

>>137517665
This is raw cancer. Impressed.

>>137517940
gay

just use american flag. charlottesville was a clusterfuck of random flags from different factions, from american vanguard to tradworker. it looks autistic and is utterly confusing from the normie perspective

>>137517048
There wasn't any nazi surrender, and now they've come back through the youth.

>>137517048
>WHEE WHUR KUNFEDRIT SOLEJERRS

>>137517918

I like this one. It's patriotic and symbolizes us going back to our roots of freedom.

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>>137518176

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>>137517870
like this one

>>137517596
Goooooooooaaaaaaaaalllllll.

>>137517838
Just use all of them.

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>>137518201
one without swastika

>>137501003
Flag ideas and ideas in general for NatSocs here.

>>137516942
this because reasons, did you make that anon?

>>137518178
i agree, all those in favor say Q
Q

>>137517870
>too complex
modern flags look like it's for autists. Nothing to be proud of and for.

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>>137518163
>being this triggered over history

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>>137518308
no fellow anon i found it a month ago here

>>137518256
did you make that? what do the images represent? for anything to represent something it must have meaning.

>>137518371

Q

>>137517048
One shekel for you goyim

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The Fasces symbol is already used in Congress so this isn't too out there.

>>137518371
Q

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>>137518507
The Sonnenrad is commonly used to represent either paganism or far right wing ideologies, its also aesthetic as fuck

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>>137517139

These all look pretty good.

no black suns,they know that sign, and theyll label a racist sign

>>137517426
Why 19 stars?

>>137518694
is the left raging a racial holy war on white people?

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EYE
OF
KEK

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>>137515496
What about something like this?

Red, white, and black is a powerful color combination.

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>>137515496
Trump Lion gets the point across. Anti-Globalist and meritocratic.

The Americans should keep putting Americans First.

The British should keep puting the British first.

The Swedish should start putting themselves first

So forth and so on.

>>137518776
pretty much anon

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>>137518776
Not really a war, but rather a genocide in the definition of the term. Sun Tzu style, by not actually fighting it.

I say go with the good old stars and strips or some earlier variations. It allows the normie white middle class to sympathize and makes Anti-fa seem extremely un-American burning if the try to burn it or fuck with it.

>>137517719
Nice shitpost, they will just use this to portray all Christians as Nazis

>>137518694
>The Sonnenrad is commonly used to represent either paganism or far right wing ideologies, its also aesthetic as fuck
so uhhh what does a Sonnenrad mean? ill wiki it.

>>137518671
hmm could use a different color scheme. try switching the stars to white and the leftside square to blue

>>137518858
red and black be seen as too powerful, and aggressive

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>>137515496

>>137517003
Beautiful but nope

>>137518694
why did you choose that symbol? What does it represent anon for you anon?

>>137518918
ya and the lion can be seen as white pride. i think this is my favorite so far

>>137519140
is your christian a nazi?

>>137517426
>using jewlywood logos
garbage from marvel shield logo

fucking learn to be original

>>137518858
it make it looks like blacks and whites should be coexisting

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>>137515496
So I'm guessing this is the theme tonight....
>ditch the swastika goyim

>>137519350
I don't want to get all Nietzsche blond beast on this, but the metaphor for being supermen is there.

>>137519188
period blood. good one

>>137518918
This is also pretty good.

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>>137519248
Show your flag and I might answer.

>>137519352
He definitely hated most Jews and thought they were hypocrites. They killed him for saying you had to treat the Goyim like Jews and beating money lenders.

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Unironically this.

>>137519634
ok here is my flag.... lurking anon still would like to know more...

>>137518256
Thats quality

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>>137515496
Forgot something?

>>137519407
yeah and that's like the literal opposite of what we want

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>>137517993
This one is better.

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>>137516849
I know these aren't the best quality, but give the ideas some consideration.

>>137517918
This is great. Super clean/patriotic

>>137515496
https://nava.org/digital-library/design/GFBF_English.pdf

Please follow, can't have a shit flag. A child should be able to draw it from memory

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>>137518918

>>137519500
they associate the swastika as evil for the everyday person going about their own business, so ya ditch that mess

dont listen to this jew possing as a nazi

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Personal favorite from my dump

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Use multiple flags and do not use autistic meme flags because they look aesthetic, especially if they have any sort of Nazi imagery.
Flags to stay away from.
>Any Nazi flags or flags of groups related to or similar to the Nazis
>ANY flag relating to the ACW from both sides including regimental flags and the Bonnie Blue Flag
Flags to use
>The current American flag
>Any past versions of the flag
>Any proposed versions of the flag during the revolutionary war
>Any militia flag from the revolutionary war
>Any regimental flags from the revolutionary war
>Any join or die/don't tread on me flags
>Any state flags
Just keep them American, no ACW flags or foreign flags.

>>137519708
this would be subtle and have maybe good outcomes when the leaf flag becomes a hate symbol.. especially under trudeau. hell change it asap
it wont happen though because of its implications

>>137519049
The Jews are fighting a race war and want to keep their race pure.

Why else would they sterilize Ethopian Jewish women immigrating to Israel?

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-admits-ethiopian-women-were-given-birth-control-shots.premium-1.496519

the nazi flag is our flag for all time, it is the only flag that the jews are afraid of desu

>>137519545
Looks like /r/space. Looks too post moderninst.

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>>137519929
Was gonna suggest something similar.

>>137518227
Needs to be simplified. But it is good

>>137520068
The house of the rising sun...

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>>137519735
As previously stated, its aesthetic, and it usually represents right-wing ideologies. As it was imprinted on the marble floor of the SS Generals' Hall. Pic related

for what purpose would we abandon our flag? because we've been exposed as nazis? we weren't hiding anything desu

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Let's use these flag common this would be great everyone would pass off as lefty will preaching right wing messages

>>137519865
This is a good one.

>>137520061
>Ethiopian Jewish women
>Ethiopian
because they dont want jewish blood influenced by their nigger blood.

>>137519918

Two conflicting micromanagements:

The ring of stars should be a count of 13 or some other significant number.

2) I think the lion should be bigger, maybe without the ring of stars

>>137520068
actually kinda like this one

remember anons we gotta pick only one so start deciding which one you like.

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>>137520314
Switching to something the SS used will not help. You are an American, not a German, not a Nazi, stop larping as one.

>>137515496
Seriously though, it doesn't matter what flag you use. I thought you guys grasped this when you first decided on Unite the Right? The media will still find a way to paint you as something you aren't, if you use an American flag:
>they're trying to use the American flag so nobody knows they're nazis!

Or a Nazi flag:
>Look everyone! Look at the nazis!

They have ultimate control of the narrative.

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>1779
>American Revolution
>John Paul Jones has his ship engaged in battle with British ship
>Jones loses his own ship but captures the HMS Serapis
>Jones takes Serapis to Dutch territory
>British accuse Jones of piracy since the now USS Serapris has no national ensign flying from her
>Dutch have never seen an American flag but make one up based on how they've heard it described in a letter from Ben Franklin
>Jones sails to France under his new, and technically recognized, flag

>>137520531
It just goes to show you that the Israelites don't really consider other Jews to be Jews. The Nation of Israel is a race and a religion all tied into one.

And every other person that thinks they are a Jew is going to be genocided.

>>137520314
Anything with undefined or unAmerican symbolism will never be accepted or normie approved. You think people won't just look that shit up on a goolag search?

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I tried merging a few I liked.

Version 1

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>>137517050

>he can't handle the banta!

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>>137520816
version 2

>>137519839
ameriku akbar!

>>137520707
looks like a windows 10 error screen

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>>137515496

>>137520068

Damn this looks good

>>137519923
the swastika is a symbol of american supremacy.

>>137520068
Looks to Japanese.

We didn't go through Pearl Harbor, the Pacific Campaign and drop two two nukes on those bastards to have their rising sun on our flag.

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slap her on a flag n call it a day

>>137520674
Your average right wing normie knows the media is full of shit so if theres a group of peopld holding American flags theyll put off the media words like they already do. If we validate the medias bullshit and prove them right it gives them credibility in the eyes the people we are trying to win over. Take a break in your pride for one second to actually think about the consequences of your image.

>>137520068
As much as I like the others this one has my vote.

>>137520032
An appeal to heaven flag please

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>>137520672
>>137520785
I can be a national socialist if I choose, just as there are commies in the US, however they were not born in Russia. But I see your points, and you're right. However, we should not let that stop us from achieving the same goals that we would've reach otherwise. White ethnostates and authoritarianism first. Ideology =/= Flag.

>>137518371
Q

>>137520068
Stripes should be red during times of war, and blue during times of peace.

>>137520908
Your flags should have a proper Union. I advise running the top and bottom red strips all the way through and see how that looks.

>>137521205
some symbols maybe arent needed on flags, to know that the organizations exist both before and after.

>>137521205
the american-israeli relationship is unequal.

>>137521086

>American eagle, american colors

faggot

>>137520674
the human brain likes familiarity.

we are trying to look patriotic, and normie fags are more willing to listen to you if we are carrying flags that look american vs carrying around swastikas

>>137521205
Sure. Agreeable. Just don't go out there and do something stupid. It only takes one chink in the armor for them to find purchase.

>>137520707
Dowloaded for historical purposes.

Nice digits.

>>137521410
no. we're doing this the hard way.

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>>137520568
I cleaned it up, removed the star ring, made lion larger.

>>137520167
>>137519929


I'm sticking with these two as prime candidates. Might have some ordered.

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shiet

>>137521205
You are not a national socialist, if you were you would be following the ideas of that party not posting pictures of the military branch of the Nazi party, something you would never have been allowed into. In all likelihood you are an American mutt like most whites in America. You just like to larp.

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>>137521340
Agreed.
>>137521386
What do you mean?
>>137521429
Yep, agreed.

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>>137521392
You one of those Brazilian Happas?

>>137521502
Looks good but all the stars should have a meaningful number. Of course, you could always make that up later

>>137521744
why do american soldiers love israelis more than fellow americans?

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>>137521338
like this?

>>137517050
I didn't realise there where so few people in the media that all of them could fit on a single pic. thanks, totally-not-cherrypicked info-graphic!

>>137521496
>were going to run ourselves into the group because in pride.

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>>137521741
Believe whatever you want to believe, shlomo.

>>137521891
Ground*

>>137515496
If only you could coopt the Gadsden. Imagine it. That'd make the parasites shit bricks. Shame what happened to it.

>>137521410
Okay. There is no harm in an attempt. The only thing I disagree about with these flags is that we need an inoffensive way to show people what we're about. So far the flags seem like they aren't really encapsulating that.

>>137521891
pride comes before the victory.

>>137521502
all those that want thhis one press U

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>>137521843
Because Israel is American's capital, my friend.

The symbolism and colors should be American and reference our own national history.
Not co-opting something from a country that the US's enemy and wanted to see it destroyed

>>137521502

I think that looks great, the lion is very bold,

The only thing remaining is the number of stars. You have 12 across the top, 11 in the bottom, and 3 in the beard.

So, that is 25. My first thought is this would "tear the country in half." We need the star symbolism to unify the anti-globalist and meritocratic sentiments.

>>137522192
it probably is.

>>137521741
>most white American part Irish part German
>calling that a mutt

Ok.

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>>137515496
I have a few but just for PA bros

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>>137522462
How much Soros paying you right now, Carl?

How's the wife's kids?

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>>137522505
One that anyone in the US could use

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>>137517211
Thank you my brother from another Mother...I appreciate my own flag, even though born in W. Germany...

>>137521502
>>137518918
These are damn good.

>>137520908
all those that want this one press E
>>137520978
all those that want this one press S
>>137520167
all those that want this one press W
>>137520068
all those that want this one press L
>>137519865
A
>>137519708
Z
>>137519552
R
>>137518502
G
>>137518227
D
>>137518084
J
>>137517348
M
>>137516849
K

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>>137522558
Also this.

take note of the fourteen stripes versus thirteen

>>137521885
I think that looks better. When the trim is run up the side it will have a faint white line up the left that i think will look fantastic.

Pic for reference

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the lion flag is the best. also....it is trumps flag and he will soon be crowned king when they make him take the shackles off. Kurt Gödel loophole, Trump knows what it is.

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>>137522757
God damn it.

>>137522737
also add flag and letter if you want to add another

>>137520167
No fucking crowns on the US flag.

>>137522737
Z

>>137522820
F

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>>137515496
This was my proposal for a flag for a "Christian Vinland" about a year ago to replace the current Vinland flag, since it was made by a heathen (I'm not flying heathen cloth). It wasn't very popular, but hey, consider it a submission.

>>137522820
I feel like it needs colour where the white is just to make it really pop

>>137522737
I'd vote for the ones mentioned here. Redact R, I was only showing it for inspiration.>>137521566

>>137522737

press H for this >>137522752

>>137523150
T

>>137522976

ha, not yet!

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>>137517048
The burn is too hot and I want ice!
mfw this post.

no matter what you change your flags, logos, symbols, outfits, etc. to, you'll always be called "Nazis", regardless of whether or not it's accurate.

>>137523258
We fought to get away from all of that. Completely violates decency.

>>137523314
So fucking what? The symbol really has to be better, to draw in the minority of potential converts.

Can someone sketch up a variant of >>137517918 , but with a fasces of arrows instead of the traditional cluster?

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>>137515496

>>137517719
>>137517735
Would proudly fly, but I think we've learned that mixing our faith with politics just turns others against us, and it triggers the heathens in our ranks. Good for a Church or a Church-based movement, but not our current goal. Keep for later.

>>137517799
Fuck you. DOn't put the Holy Cross on that faggot trash rag.

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>>137522414
>>137522445
>>137522505

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>>137515496

>>137523314
Is this supposed to deter us? We know Jews will call anyone against them Nazis. People are starting to not give a shit. But you know, just keep listening to the good ol' MSM, right? Worked pretty well last time, didn't it, bitch?

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HEIL SCOOPISTAN

>>137523150
I actually really like what you did with the cross.

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>>137518201
Too on the nose. How about this one? Saved from last flag thread.

>>137523314
the left always will. but normies are different. They will not align themselves with people waving swastikas, but they will align themselves with white americans waving red white and blue banners.

>>137516849
Glory to arstotzka!

>>137521133
This.

>>137515496
We already have the American flag, faggot. Don't ruin it.

>>137515496
Flag cucks. Own the American flag. America was founded as a White Christian Nation.
"Out Of Many, One" = Fasces

>>137522737
All great, I say R.

>>137516942
Stormfag...

>>137523314
yes but its a matter of how it looks normies, wat would you think of abunch of people carrying nazi falgs vs american looking flag? we need normie to listen to the cause if we want to grow

>>137523599
Thanks svenbro. Took me less than a minute on micropaint.

>>137523616
Stop using the Kriegsmarine as a fucking template.

>>137523948
I didn't make that. I just saved it. Besides, it a good dog whistle while not too on the nose.

>>137523948
This. Too closely associated with Germany. Americans need something American.

>>137522623
danka white man

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This is what I came up with: the free speech flag. _F_orest Green (#228B22) and _S_carlet (#FF2400) = FS = Free Speech.
The black band in the middle is akin to the thin blue line, except in this case, it's the thin black line. Also, red is on the right, because the right is in possession of the most red pills.

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Thinking about making a variation of this soon.

>>137522820

F has my vote
i think we have plenty of flags to choose from now

>>137524198
I want the old Canadian flag back. You were Britain's favorite child, the hell happened, my guy?

>>137524157
Sorry, forgot to mention, it's in the classic 5:9 ratio that was in use from 17xx-1837, which overlaps most with the years of Edmund Burke's life.

>>137518518
Topkek

>>137524198
Do it plz. Too many leaf flags are just unintimidating and hard to take seriously.

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From bioshock. Literally what we want: all white nation, no race mixing, etc. And its already made and sold. Howabout it?

>>137515496
You need something completely different to symbolize a new movement.

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>>137523422
>>137523546
jesus christ calm down sperglords

>>137523617
>>137523778
yes but the normies are still brainwashed by the MSM on a daily basis, and therefore listen to what they say. so say you change your logo from a swastika to something better (something better than anything in this thread, it's all overly-complex not-iconic-enough garbage)—you'll march or protest or do what the fuck ever, and the MSM and shitlib bloggers will refer to you as either "Nazis" or some "synonym" like "alt-right" or whatever the fuck they come up with next. normies will consume the MSM, learn that you're "Nazis" or whatever, and then dislike you anyways, meaning literally nothing changes with you going to all the work to invent a new logo.

the solution, of course, as many here are saying, is to use the American flag. when you have faggot liberals calling swastika-flag-waving people "Nazis", well, ok, you can't blame them, even if they're twisting "Nazi" to mean something you don't necessarily intend for it to mean. but when they call patriotic motherfuckers waving American flags "Nazis", well, cue cognitive dissonance in the average normie

>>137524371
I don't think I'd like to be sued.

>>137524057
You must be full retarded if you think the Kriegsmarine is just a dog whistle these days.

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Literally the Confederate Flag but no one knows

>>137516949
Yup. Come home white man.

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>>137515496
can someone make one similar to these but using the Champagne design?

>>137524371
put a letter on it faggit
H

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>>137524371
change the badge to a simple shield, drop the gradients, and the white outline around the shield, and you're golden.

or you could just use Best Flag, because it already exists

>>137524432
Yeah, fair point.

>>137524444
I was going to argue, but those fucking digits. I submit to your wisdom; it is too recognizable to normies. You win.

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>>137515496

>>137524306
Also, people wearing this flag + stripes of any type would be a signal that the person sees themselves as being part of the black line; i.e., that they themselves will not stand by while any type of speech is suppressed.

>>137517719
>>137517735
Good for when we want to go full on christofascist mode.

>>137524386
This guy gets it

Why are we trying to make a new flag again? The standard American flag would work best

What if we just fly the flag upside down?

>>137520032
But we are Nazi's. Why can't we just have a Nazi flag FFS?

>>137524614
What? Stop being a namefag.

>>137518585
I like the Nork Style

>>137524818
Because then they just yuck us up to a bunch of neocons. We need to stand out.

>>137524227
Yes, and you can already buy them for 10 bucks on amazon. We just need to show up with them at events. It will catch on. My 2020, the Republican party will be dead. Trump will have created his own party by then. I'm still waiting on Trump to go full natsoc but this alt-right bullshit slowed it down.

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>>137524781
>Implying a good 40% of us don't already

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>>137517900
Fuck you, Kekistan. Alt-Kek is better than your trash ideology

>>137524827
Because alienation of the average American.

>>137516926
>Don't brap on me

>>137517540
For the record, I don't really care and wouldn't carry any of these, but I vote this one most aesthetic.

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>>137517048
>Hurr, Nazis surrendered
Communists never surrender to anybody: their retarded ass systems just collapse EVERY FUCKING TIME.

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>>137520816
>>137520908
>>137521885
Went ahead and fixed this flag because I I like it and I'm actually not a retard and I can use photoshop.

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>>137525306
>I I like it
Okay maybe I am a retard.
Here's a variant that I figured someone might prefer.

>>137524198
Nice, that's way better than the fucking leaf flag.

>>137524827
News flash faggot everyone that isn't a nazi hates the nazis. You're not gonna grow you political platform by flying flag that is associated with evil

>>137525420
Have the eagle's head turned towards the arrows, and I'm ready to go.

>>137524686
I have felt Kek working through me this whole time. We will have a Lion.

>>137524261
I want it back too man. What happened was Lester Pearson and a long line of awful, awful prime ministers since Diefenbaker.

>>137525502
Pettiness.

>>137525602
Nein

Symbolism

>>137524386
ok but there will be plenty that should listen, we need more normie fags on our side before civil war hits

the media will be showing concerned americans with american flags, while antifa is burning them. this should get plenty of vets on ourside.

and I can tell you carrying around a nazi flags, confederete flags, and wearing kkk suits aint gonna cut it

>>137525306
>>137525420
Dope. I really like the second one.

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>>137515496
the only symbol or flag you Nazi faggots are going to carry is an red gaping anus in a orange jumpsuit

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>>137523368
>we
>but I have an ancestor that fought for the crown

>>137515496
No pictures m8, a flag must be able to be easily drawn by a child, yet distinct, like the American flag and the union flag.

>>137525801
So you do support rape, then

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>>137525502
>>137525742

>>137525420
Loos a lot better now you stripped the Blue.

>>137524386
>post two sentences = sperging

>post this
>"...yes but the normies are still brainwashed by the MSM on a daily basis, and therefore listen to what they say. so say you change your logo from a swastika to something better (something better than anything in this thread, it's all overly-complex not-iconic-enough garbage)—you'll march or protest or do what the fuck ever, and the MSM and shitlib bloggers will refer to you as either "Nazis" or some "synonym" like "alt-right" or whatever the fuck they come up with next. normies will consume the MSM, learn that you're "Nazis" or whatever, and then dislike you anyways, meaning literally nothing changes with you going to all the work to invent a new logo.

the solution, of course, as many here are saying, is to use the American flag. when you have faggot liberals calling swastika-flag-waving people "Nazis", well, ok, you can't blame them, even if they're twisting "Nazi" to mean something you don't necessarily intend for it to mean. but when they call patriotic motherfuckers waving American flags "Nazis", well, cue cognitive dissonance in the average normie"

>not a sperglord

>????

>profit

>>137525801
shoo shill!

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>>137515496

>>137525801
Whatever you say, cunt.

>>137525850
How well has that crown done in the last 230+ years? It decided to shit the bed and be rid of its empire instead of using its power to command the military properly and fuck up the opposition.

>>137515496

all we need is the American flag, anything else is degenerate

>>137525742
Same
>>137525420
Y

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>>137519708
>>137520046
that would be fucking hilarious

>>137526006
Dankass. Winner.

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>>137525973
only for nazi prisoners like you :^)

>>137524888
Any alternate flag will make you stand out as the bad guys to media and the normies they brainwash and they will immediately equate that flag to the nazi flag. What you want them to do is see your movement with everyone carrying around American flags so they can't demonize you without demonizing the flag that represents themselves.

>>137526006
Nice!

>>137517726
MS Paint masterpiece right here.

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>>137526006

>>137526275
Why would you support the rape of anyone? Why would you assume I'm a nazi?

>>137526006
That is an extremely aesthetic flag. It gets my vote.

>>137525420
i think we have a winner

>>137526006
Looks good, but how do we get them made? Anyone know how to make decent flags? Can we send the design into a custom flag shop or something? Patches? How exactly do we wear it/fly it?

>>137526546
we do indeed, my guy

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>>137526006

Aesthetic as fuck

Got my vote

>>137526102
>the flag of goatse
we have a winner
spread them cheeks nazi

>>137526605
Get to your local fabric shop and get sewing!

>>137526605
google flag maker or something. see if their is one in your area

>>137526722
You're doing a really shit job at disrupting. Soros may disappointed.