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The truth and a new beginning

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Listen /pol/. The rally was a shitshow with a few bread-and-circus positives.

I like seeing Antifa get anally devastated, and your low-hanging fruit liberal tears, but it's not progress at all. It's just a scene to watch while you eat popcorn.

You know what this all was? Controlled opposition fighting a controlled opposition.

This is Charlottesville Virginia, not San Francisco. Antifa aren't a thing in such a place where gun laws aren't like California, and yet they're somehow there, along with a bunch of out-of-place hipsters. Meanwhile, the Unite The Right group is nothing but a celebrity lineup like a rock concert or a Coachella festival. Pic 100% related.

I don't trust this group, as much as I'd like to see a right-wing America with less nigger rats and illegals. You have prominent figures with media spotlights, the KKK which are known to have FBI agents, the NSM of America which are known to be bussed into places, cherry-picked with ugly people, just like Antifa, and all kinds of red flags.

It's like I'd have to start my own independent movement to weed out who's a covert agent and shill and who's not. If I were to hold a rally, I'd have the following to prove it's not controlled or based and holding integrity:

>No E-celebs or prominent media figures and speakers, meaning Lauren Southern, Richard Spencer, Baked Alaska, or even Styx would be barred from attending.

>Labelled as Anti-Communist, but NOT in the name of Trump, meaning the movement is NOT a pro or anti-Trump movement. Trump is IRRELEVANT in the rally. This is to show if Antifa show up on their own free will, it's not a controlled shit show, much like the Free Speech rally where a bunch of MAGA and Kekistani faggots showed up.

>No KKK or NSM or America. Both groups are KNOWN to be undercover and staged groups. Either FBI and CIA agents, or rednecks given a few hundred bucks to LARP. (Rednecks deliberately picked to slander NatSoc movements)

Yes, I've been copying and pasting for hours.
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that rally was a set up by the deep state you fucking faggot

the mayor pulled his book of tricks, the CIA did the hitjob

12th of August is George Soros birthday, get a grip you fucker, we got played
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Here's the rally/march flyer. It looks like a fucking band advertisement for a lineup. A lineup of who? E-celebs, CIA agents, and god know's what else.

If you took out the skinheads, the redneck nazis, the KKK, the FBI, the CIA, the YouTubers, the Kekistanis, the car crash, and the MAGA faggots, but left disciplined, old-fashioned "nazis" and a uniformed march, I would give ZERO shits if the mainstream majority push slander out their buttholes, because a disciplined opponent (their opponents) would be viewed 100% differently, if not feared, and maybe even respected. I guarantee it by my grandmother's grave.
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>>137370210
>Deep state

Tell me in your words who they are and who's part of it.
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I actually have an even better idea than a march or your typical rally. In order to defeat the Jew, you must reverse-engineer their schemes.

In the west coast, especially California's San Francisco Bay Area, the rave scene is flourishing in multiple counties with drugs, Antifa, rape, bribery, you name it, but what is even more important is how a genre called psytrance is very popular.

But what is psytrance? Why that specific genre of electronic music? You see, that genre is known to cause people to go into trance-like states, and the occult is also heavily intertwined. An event is like one giant ritual, and every little detail from the beats, written medleys, sound frequencies, light patterns, even the decorations and their placements are important for inducing these ritualistic trances.

Even if you hate the genre, or ignore the music at an event and walk around, your subconscious is still tapped. It's like a commercial on TV. The flashing lights, the sounds, the frequencies, etc. still affect people, even if they absolutely hate commercials and don't want to buy anything.

People under these trances do lots of stupid shit, sometimes psychotic. Now, imagine how hundreds if not thousands of people at an event become subverted. Biggest red pill? Psytrance is VERY popular in Israel and most artists of that genre are from there.

So, why bring this up? Reverse-engineer it. Use the same methods to promote National Socialism. Decor, frequencies, lights, etc. An event disguised to normies , and they leave feeling volkisch, quitting drugs, wanting kids, etc. For shits and giggles, put rune stones and subtle 3rd Reich stuff.

Congratulations. Money made, people red-pilled, and actual lives changed. Immediate results compared to a march.
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>>137370439
I also have other ideas if one were to take the typical march or rally approach.

Imagine a group that is against Antifa and pro volkisch valuesm but you don't immediately say you're nationalist or "nazi". Essentially, you bait them on the defensive. If they react, they can't use certain things against you, because YouTubers, speakers, bikers, rednecks, KKK, etc. were not present.

In the SF area, Antifa are known to be heavily involved in drug trade, selling to minors, statutory rape, squatting, drug abuse, vandalism, assault, etc. and are harmful to communities. Make a demonstration merely opposing them for just that, and they'll eventually have to be labelled as a terror group, thus ending them forever. Note that this information about them had little to do with their protests. This is the shit they do on the weekends.

Imagine another scenario. A group known as "Traditionalists" dress up as knights, and act disciplined, serious, and showing uniformity, as if they were serious. Anyone bitching calling them oppressors, mean, nazis, etc. just end up looking dumb with no evidence, but the mere fervor brings people like Antifa out of the woodwork and into a trap.

If you're gonna LARP, do it right where people believe you and take you seriously. If not, it's just a clusterfuck like Berkeley allowing (((them))) to sneak in the cracks.

cont-
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>>137370821
You don't want to please your opponents, but you want them to respect you, even if they disagree with you. The National Socialists of yesteryear and the neonazis of today show opposing behaviors upon themselves.

Essentially, where I'm going with my idea is if one were to hold a National Socialist rally, they'd have to be disciplined, have a sense of uniform, yet at the same time, be vague.

A bunch of people marching with rectangular Roman-esque shields, officer coats, flags, etc. to instill fear, respect, etc. yet so vague people can't just say "SUPREMACIST NAZI BLAH BLAH BLAH!" Imagine such a mass marching in downtown SF out of nowhere. The general public would have obscure yet fearful feelings from the sight.
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>>137370821
Forgot to mention this. With that information about Antifa, people can use this against them, while there'd be little they could use against you. They'd purely be looking bad on their own accord while the new NatSoc group, from being somewhat vague, has nothing against them from such respectable behavior and image.
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Bump

We must keep the NatSoc torch burning. Do not give up and let this chaos make you give up.
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Don't give up...
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DONT FUCKING DIE
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>>137370052
would the OP be interested in creating an informal think-tank for the continued discussion of this agenda? if so.. how can we contact OP when the threads dead?
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>>137370052
No capitulation in the face of Jewish terrorism. This is out world.
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>>137370052
Crisis Actor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8hjRECCG2w
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>>137372666
I'm not comfortable with giving out information like an Email or joining a Discord channel. I should just make a tripcode or something.

>>137372837
Thank you for posting this information. Does anyone have information regarding the REAL driver being a US Army personnel and how the drivers were switched? There's also pics of some guy getting handcuffed on the ground and posts about a link /leftypol/ used to armor up a car.
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Where and how would we organize meets? We're rather dispersed after all. We'd need physical meetings. Actual memberships. The beginning of some grassroots movement, or party. Propaganda artists. Speakers. Writers. The whole deal.
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>>137373040
well at some point it has to move beyond /pol/ threads so i mean...

if you make a trip that will work for a while tho :)

two questions:

>whats your position on Jews
>whats your position on Hitler
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lol ya fucked up
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The alt-right indeed are total faggots. If any of them understood the NatSoc/Fascist worldview, they would have not gone nor joined any of those faggot organizations that went there

We need a true NatSoc group. A radical one that offers zero compromise (so pretty much Ironmarch approved)
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>>137373126
I don't know exactly how to rally. It would have to begin very low-key and start with trust. We can't do it like other groups do with flyers and paper like a public advertisement. That gives room for people to infiltrate and target. Eventually, once enough trustworthy people who are tight-knit gain numbers, those numbers would speak for themselves.

On one note, I had an idea for a new aesthetic.

Imagine a uniform vaguely resembling both the waffen and the Romans, but all black. Subtle, yet not outwardly saying "We're National Socialists." Sleek and modern, yet old imperial, but not Star Wars. A tabard, yet an officer's tunic to not look so LARP. So, imagine a solid, minimalist tunic with a carrier vest on top, but no pouches.

The banner? White flag, black logo. An ancient symbol.

Imagine a march with square rectangular shields that incurve but are shiny solid black like a car door. Very modern, yet still retaining that old flavor. Flag bearers would hold them, as weapons are not allowed. Not imagine en-masse people like this.
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>>137370223
>that poster
yea this is def a psyop
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We NEED to mimic groups like National Action (UK) and Nordic Resistance Movement in America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8emvBJTdIoY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZsv4RiThJo
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>>137373847
and yet even after stepping over all those eggshells and going through all that effort the jewish media would call you a nazi that wants to kill 6 million jews because your organization is 99% white and/or presents a threat.
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>>137370052
>controlled op meme
>13 posts by this ID
Hi shill!
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>>137370052
you think it was any difference in the 1930's? the only difference people were more desperate because they were on the brink of starvation. Today this is more about show biz. the only way to change things is to get the message out. no such thing as bad publicity. Our message is the only one based on true principals. The left is based only on moral particularism and identity politics. The longer we have the normies watching the freakshow the bigger chance a seed of doubt gets planted. Once that seed gets planted it is hard to get out
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>>137374400
The Alt-Right is not the "message" we want out. It is a message of weakness and literal shit
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>>137370439
but we want to unhpynotize people not hypnotize them
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>>137374478
i don't know man the alt-right has a pretty good K:D so far
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>>137374478
we just want people to think for themselves
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>>137374681
I don't think this is going to play out in the streets... yet. normies are still too comfortable. once we get down to like 30-40% white demographically it will be time. but no harm starting practice early
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>>137373200
I understand. I just care for my well-being.

>Jews
Don't like them, and don't trust them. I'm sure there are Jews that mean no harm, but for trust reasons, I'd steer clear. Supposedly, they lack a part of the brain that causes empathy, and that they also suffer from neurosis.

Imagine an island popped up out of the Atlantic twice the size of Iceland. It has forests, mountains, coastlines, cities, farmland, etc. and I owned it rightfully, and had dominion over the population. I'd say no Jews allowed, and rightfully so, because it's MY island. It's MY nation. Does it mean I'd go on the offensive? No. Merely the defensive.

You see, when there's a presidency in any nation throughout the world, Israeli and NY Jewish envoys always like to pay a visit to give some sort of proposition as if they're entitled to force them into being "allies" with the Jews. I'd answer the phone and tell them to fuck off, let them whine, and not give a fuck. Like /pol/ mentions about non-whites. They want gibs from whites yet hate us. They hate us yet migrate to our homelands. They hate us yet want our women. They hate us yet want our luxuries. The list goes on. I'd just tell the Jews to leave us be. They have no claim to my land and people.

>Hitler
I could go on and on. I do know that history distorted a LOT about him. I know he just cared about his people, which is the bottom line.

>>137373668
We need a group with discipline. All these rallies and groups, be they legitimate or staged lack discipline. I think one of these marches would be effective if these people were shown how to march in a formation, act uniform, and ensure there is no deviation from the standard at which they should conduct themselves.

The idea isn't to please your opponents, but make them respect you. People underestimate how effective image and uniformity is on the psyche of your opponents.
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>>137374063
This is why you make your movement look somewhat vague. People would have nothing to use against you other than being white, disciplined, etc. and that gives leverage, if not makes them look stupid.

>>137374104
You forgot your gadsen flag.

>>137374632
Hypnotism is how people have influenced others for a millennia, be it for good or bad intentions. And it's not hypnotism per-se. It's reversing damages. Playing the record backward so to speak.

>>137374941
This is why image matters. You show discipline, order, care, etc. to make them naturally respect, if not admire you.

>>137374957
Adding to this.

The Canadians once stopped an Agent Provocateur false flag that way. Three guys started looting and vandalizing during their peaceful protest and they were having none of it. Stopped them and brought them to the police and accused them of trying to start something so the police could attack. After a bunch of denials officials finally caved and admitted they were undercover cops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CGqWHaMhNM
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>>137374681
I recall the muslim advance made it all the way to france before the europeans finally rallied and reversed them forever. white people are naturally individualistic and it takes a serious threat to get them to act collectively. that is exactly how the jews take advantage because through the centuries they have learned just how far they can push the western european goyim before triggering a collective response. It is their "tradition"
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Don't stop friendo I'm reading the thread
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>>137375313
but how do you have a strong people if they are hypnotized slaves? you don't. I suppose there is nothing against using those tactics against your enemy, but why would you ever want to use it on your own people, unless you are somehow slipping them the red pill, but then again don't people have to voluntarily make the decision to be hypnotized or not?
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>>137375663
Thanks, buddy.
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>>137375685
Like I mentioned before. With the reverse-engineered psytrance, you could essentially push traditionalist views if you wrote the music properly, much like writing code in a computer. You could write between the lines, traditional values, love for your own people, but respect towards others, and the will to improve one's self.

Music is also a science, if not a language, and can be translated mathematically. You could get the scientific formula for what makes fire (forgot the scientific name for formulas) Yes, actual fire, and literally translate it into the language of music. What does it sound like though? Pure passion in the most literal form.
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>>137370052
>>137370210
>>137370223

It's an obvious setu-up!! Notice how the media + verified social media mafia was bashing the "evil white people" within an hour of the attack?


The deep state is trying ANYTHING to kill nationalism+ the right.
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>>137378353
So do you think this deep state also coordinated the rally itself?
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>>137370052
kys cucks. Charlottesville exposed the weak terrorist fags that call themselves altright. The whole nation wants you retards dead now. You lost because you promoted autistic violence.
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>>137370052
Antifa was there though, in big numbers. You are fucking stupid.
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>>137378435
Shut the fuck up shill. Half the posts here belong to you, calling people who stand up for white pride "controlled opposition".
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>>137373990
Agreed. Well-dressed, composed, and organized.

But none of that matters if politician shut down evens for no reason and force our people onto the streets with antifa. Then people get run over
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>>137378519
I'm not Alt Right.

>>137378791
>>137378854

>Antifa was there
No kidding. I don't like them either. If you're going to stand up for white pride, carry yourself properly. Sort yourself out. Show discipline and honor, and especially integrity.
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>>137379048
>But none of that matters if politician shut down evens for no reason and force our people onto the streets with antifa. Then people get run over

This is why you keep relatively vague. You don't just go to the city office and say "Hi. We're National Socialists. I'd like to hold a demonstration"
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>>137379160
But even civcucks like Proud Boys or based stickman are called nazis. Everybody is a fucking Nazi
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>>137378435
Who knows?
You do know the fbi has propped up these groups right? Alot of these "grand wizard nazi" whatever fucks are informants.


The crazy thing is that the police set up pens and antifa was pepper spraying+ attacking people before this,yet the media didn't report it. They NEVER report on antifa violence,why?


They're pushing this so hard it's insane.
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>>137379424
They revealed too many "nazi-esque" things and showed up at certain demonstrations, giving themselves recognition. This new movement would start out of the blue.
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>>137374957
you seem legit to me. good luck with your movement m8
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>>137370052

>Virginia
>not overrun by leftists

This is the initial fault in your logic, OP. Please refrain from dartish speculation.
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>>137379562
>You do know the fbi has propped up these groups right? Alot of these "grand wizard nazi" whatever fucks are informants.

That's correct. I mentioned how in my first post that we don't want to associate with groups like the NSM of America, KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, etc.

>Antifa
I've seen the shit they do on weekends here. I mentioned in previous posts what they do on their non-protesting days. During the days when we had Safety Squad threads, we uncovered Antifa members in the Oakland area having multiple cases of sex with minors, one member alone who was a musician or event coordinator; something along those lines, had approximately 730 accounts of sex with underaged girls. Some were bribed with drugs.
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>>137370052
national (((socialism)))


You are a fucking FOOL. Communism and Nazism are exactly the same Authoritarian bullshit. Your precious Fuhrer is not going to be any different from a Communist Politburo dictatorship. 1776 American libertarianism is the only route. Continue to redpill people so they make the proper choices, but implementing a dictatorship (which would require removing the constitution) is ASININE and probably being lead by the CIA you fucking kike
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>>137370052
>This is Charlottesville Virginia, not San Francisco. Antifa aren't a thing in such a place where gun laws aren't like California, and yet they're somehow there, along with a bunch of out-of-place hipsters
It's a liberal upper class college city
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>>137371705
national (((socialism)))

You are a pawn in the authoritarian divide and conquer. Neck yourself. 1776 will commence again if you communist or nazi faggots try to overtake America
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>>137379837
I'm not saying Virginia doesn't have lefties, but it's not California with strict gun laws, etc. I doubt Antifa roam those areas on their own free will unless bussed in from the outside. Notice Antifa, not just the protesty ones, are usually in areas with strict gun laws, etc. Put them in Texas, and they'll get demolished if they tried to plan an independent opposition (meaning without Soros coordination)

>>137379930
Why is it that every person since that mass flood of shills etc. yesterday who oppose National Socialism always have a Gadsen flag? Libertarians and NatSocs typically had a bond on /pol/ for quite some time until the last couple days. Very strange.

Why not put your vigor toward commies who are a bigger threat to your way of life?
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>>137379930
>>137380158
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>>137379090
Integrity is the one thing that stands the test of time. Truth comes to light. Example, If driver was a 4.0 student with e.c. activities and job instead of just washed out HS grad or hick. He volunteers at hospitals. Etc... Resume speaks volumes just like rap sheets for dindu nuthins when BLM comes and virtue signals.
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>>137370052
Don't fall for divide and conquer drivel. It doesn't matter who supports who right now, the far right must stick together, even if we have different motives in the end, we all make powerful allies. This is exactly what the kikes want, for us to fall apart attacking each other.
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>>137374632

this.
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>>137380818
wrong. altright is run by kikes. we dont need kike allies. OP is on the right track.
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>>137380612
So, lefties made that? I'm not giving up. I'm not abandoning the NatSoc belief. if anything, I'm trying to put antiseptic and a bandaid on this nasty wound.

>>137380818
Wrong. Unity doesn't always mean a good thing. Look at the difference between the Third Reich and the EU. One of them is shit. I'm sure you can figure out the difference.
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>>137380890
>muh kikes

Please show me some hard, viable evidence that the alt right is run by Jews, then you can decide to turn on them.
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>>137381262
spencergate.wordpress.com

hard, viable evidence is being added every few days.
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>>137379889
Wouldn't suprise me. Runaways,outcasts ,and other easily manipulated kids, are drawn to these types of things.

They buy into the whole "we are the world" bullshit and don't realize what antifa is really about.
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>>137381337
Thank you for this information. The reason why i ask, and I don't mean to come off as biased, is that the term "Deep State" was used in regards to discussions about Trump or anyone versus Trump. I myself do not support the man, though definitely not anything the left has to offer, and believe he's just as "Deep State" as the rest. However, the defintion of Deep State I've known about. I just never gave them that name.

>>137381470
I've seen the shit Antifa do around here in person. It's not pretty. The rabbit hole goes so deep into Cartel, Pizzagte, and the music festival industry.
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>>137370052
Those weird right wing protesters were controlled opposition I also think... Assange showed that they had the exact same torches and behavior as in Ukraine in 2014, which was financed by Soros.
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>>137381337

Holy shit. A quality infograph. Got anymore anon?
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>>137382213
>Assange showed that they had the exact same torches and behavior as in Ukraine in 2014, which was financed by Soros.

got a link ?
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>>137382213
I'd also like a link. This is interesting.
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>>137370052
'Gay Antifa' Marchers Attack Reporter in Richmond, VA — BEAT HIM WITH STICK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkqccnXGHZE

'A reporter with Richmond, Virginia CBS affiliate WTVR-TV was attacked by protesters with an Antifa march that was chanting, “We’re here! We’re gay! We fight the KKK!”, after he refused their demands to stop filming the group’s protest march against the KKK Sunday night in downtown Richmond in response to the deadly Nazi-Antifa clashes in Charlottesville the day before.

Video of the attack and the attackers was posted to Twitter by WTVR, as well as photos of the reporter who was taken to the hospital where staples were used to close a gash on his head.

The attack was also live tweeted by WTVR: “There is a large crowd moving through the streets of #RVA. “No Trump, No KKK, No Fascist USA.” Reportedly headed to Lee monument. People are screaming “go to bed” as the crowd marches by. #RVA The crowd is yelling at our news crew. They are telling us we can’t film them, and yelling profanity at the crew.”'
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>>137382955
Imagine a group shouting "COMMIE SCUM OFF OUR STREETS!" snd essentially doing the same shit as Antifa. Minus the window smashing, of course. Essentially, demonize Antifa the same way they demonize others.

Like I mentioned before. In order to defeat the Jew, you must reverse-engineer their spell.
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>>137382256
>>137382418
>>137383127
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>>137384103
Thank you.
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>>137370052
D&C shill thread
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>>137384728
Explain
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>>137384103
thanks
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>>137373990
National Action members look like beta cucks irl, and the movement has been outright banned in the uk.
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>>137370052

How the fuck did the media convince everyone that the people at the rally were all Nazi terrorists? I keep seeing articles and posts that "she died fighting Nazis" and "she died resisting terrorists." wtf? Aside from the one guy how are any of them terrorists? And calling them all Nazis just seems retarded. And yet people are eating it up.
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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/bread-and-circus%20positives/

Really compels you to ponder
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>>137385108
Those nazi terrorists shot down a helicopter with two police officers with a nuclear AA battery from Russia and you're here defending them.
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>>137385441
These shills sure do have a few bread-and-circus positives
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>>137385108
That's the media. If you keep repeating something over and over, people will believe it.

>>137385441
Yep. That's me. I even admitted to copy and pasting over and over. The reason why is that we were being raided heavily yesterday by Antifa, /leftypol/, /ptg/, JIDF, alt-right, etc. all at once. A lot of them hid behind gadsen flags. I kept spamming that, because shit kept getting buried fast from sliding.
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before you can have a new movement you have to destroy the old one first. otherwise, you're not only trying to build something new but you're trying to compete with movements with traction and history. Let's destroy the Alt-Right, senpai?
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>>137385813
If they're destroyed completely, everyone goes with them, including genuine NatSocs or Fascists. That's my worry.
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>>137386036
I understand your concern, but also dont think any real NatSocs are following Spencer or the AltRight. Plenty of people interested in NatSoc and using our imagery..which should be proof that we will pick them up once we kill the altright. too easy..
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>>137386401
>For what pvrpose?

>>137386554
What mean is that once the Alt Right dies, there will never be a new group reborn because of suppression at its fullest. They'll make sure everyone such as the general public, hate the idea of National Socialism, and I don't mean lefties. I mean just regular people who may have been interested at one point or people who aren't political.
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>>137386554
We have to stick together until antifa and BLM are demoralized at least.
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>>137370821
>In the SF area, Antifa are known to be heavily involved in drug trade
Any evidence?
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>>137373847

In terms of uniform I'm thinking something a bit more simple, similar to nordfront, black slacks, black dress shirt, white tie.

As for our symbol, simple is better, perhaps just a circle or a diamond.
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>>137387131
Ah. Yeah I see your point. What if we could explain National Socialism to them in a very, very convincing way tho?

>>137387196
ANTIFA can be destroyed almost instantly. They're not a problem, m8. Our biggest enemy right now isnt the commies, not the blacks.. but white people controlled by Jews, ie the altright. After all... the same people funding the AltRight are connected to ANTIFA.
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>>137370052
>It's like I'd have to start my own independent movement to weed out who's a covert agent and shill and who's not. If I were to hold a rally, I'd have the following to prove it's not controlled or based and holding integrity:
>No E-celebs or prominent media figures and speakers
So how exactly would you avoid becoming a prominent media figure yourself AND be able to hold a rally that anybody even fucking knows about?
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>>137387460
It would be a rally of solitude.
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>>137387357
I was thinking of a black ring on a white field. Or a black circle. Like the Japanese flag, but instead of red, black.

The uniform, I was thinking of something very hypermodern, but classy. Minimalist, but showing authority. Think of Deus Ex. And the shields, a shiny black carbon fiber.

>>137387359
>What if we could explain National Socialism to them in a very, very convincing way tho?

Through demonstrations, and actually displaying such values, not just preaching like you're handing out business cards. With these rallies and marching in uniform, you don't tell people you're National Socialists. You just keep vague and lure them in naturally. The actions would speak louder than the words. Sure, you can say a few red-pilling NatSoc things like "Love your people" and all that, but you don't say "Hey, National Socialism is the way, because..." To the average person, they'll hear "Hey, being a Nazi isn't bad." and be immediately put off, if not being your opposition.
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>>137388227
good point. but if we hide the national socialism then we're deceiving them arent we? or nah?
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>>137387460
If I were to even become a become a media figure, it would still be vague. I'd be "that guy" and that's it, leaving the general public not exactly sure who or what I do other than be a leader of some sort. The idea of being somewhat vague is kind of like a cock tease and you gradually seep between the cracks of people's brains. Like I said, you don't just outwardly say "I'm the leader of a NatSoc group." That was Spencer's biggest mistake with coining a term.
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>>137388431
Nobody's forcing them.
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>>137388551
i mean if we hide what were all about isnt it a dirty trick to find out later?
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>>137370052
check this out
https://archive.fo/XrDDn

remember the company name?
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>>137388712
In order to defeat the Jew, you must reverse engineer their tricks. I said this before.

>>137388739
I swear I've seen this somewhere for either Sandy Hook, Boston, or the first Berkeley protest. Someone posted an image just like this months ago.
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>>137388993
why does that include hiding our natsoc intentions?
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>>137370052
This is good. But your implicit support of liberalism makes you come off as a government agent. Communism does not tolerate degeneracy. It is liberalism that is the root cause of feminism, homosexuality, and everything this board disdain with a passion.

European philosophers have already made it clear, American society is to blame. Not the Jews, not the Globalists, it is the founding principles of your nation, and the culture that sprung out of it that has resulted in this degeneracy.
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>>137388227
My issue with the cool modernism is that it needs to be something the average joe can afford to get without breaking the bank. Your uniform would require custom tailoring, my suggestion requires a quick trip to target.

As for the CF shields, I'm thinking a normal polymer surplus riot shield painted black would suffice, reducing the barrier for entry rather than requiring expensive custom work.

Also yeah, I think a black ring on a white field would be best, simple, elegant, and most importantly, memorable, just what a symbol should be.
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>>137389416
>American society is to blame. Not the Jews
you sound like a jew.
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>>137370223
>that flyer

Fucking morons
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>>137388993
>Someone posted an image just like this months ago.
that website running the ad has come up many times on /pol/ before, their name seems to come up anytime there's a big event/habbening. It' not shopped though, see the link
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>>137389416
>Support of liberalsim.

Not at all. The idea to fight against them is to resist them by not imitating them, and exiling them from your life. If they do anything to you, they walked into a trap and end up looking stupid.

>Not the Jews

Oh, goy!

>>137389593
>Bro! Did you see that lineup! Baked Alaska, dude! Fucking lit!

>>137389648
Ah! So I wasn't seeing things! How are people selected?
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>>137370223
>those pepe and wojak confederate soldiers
Zero self-awareness
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>>137388739
>Charlotte
>Charlottesville
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>>137389501
It does sound expensive, but I'm sure funding can happen from somewhere. You see, there's little time to start out small. This needs to happen like a flash mob and immediately be taken seriously from such an image, otherwise, it looks like the Traditionalist Worker's Party, which was a horrible joke. I'm sure they showed up to the rally as well.
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>>137390691
Well until funding for your cool uniforms is secured I'm sure my suggestion is the best choice.

Also did a quick mockup for the symbol we both seem to think is good, it's not centered at all and was a 10~ second job in paint.net but I think it looks pretty good.
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>>137391534
I like this. Are there any apps/websites that allow people to put images onto a flag template? Kind of like those tee shirt mockup sites?
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>>137391534
I'm preferential to this Croatian fascist symbol. It would make great pins or cuff links. 9001 hours in paint
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>>137380612
>lol we're going to educate them by being shat on in our generals
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How about this for the modern casual variant of the uniform?

Long-fit white hoodie. Looks crisp and cool/cold.

Black military cargo pants so they're not too big or not too skinny.

Black combat boots

Kinda has that sport biker look.
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>white power
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>>137392796
Invert the colours.
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>>137390259
This desu
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>>137373990
those ties are nooses. wear clip ons or forget them.
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>>137389539
And you sound in denial.
Look at your president, and tell me that you are not as much of a buffoon as him, pointing fingers at others instead of admitting your own failures and fuckups.

"It's the Jews fault for this", "it's the Jews fault for that" ! Those who unironically think like that are the scum of this earth.

Straighten up, grow a spine (as well as the brain that should come with it), and start fixing what is wrong in your life instead of searching for imaginary culprits.

(Fucking goys, I swear...)
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>>137394054
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>>137394259
They are clip ons. They talk about it in one of their videos and it's for that exact reason.
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>>137370052

The only solution is a total global extermination
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>>137395158
Of?
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>>137392419

The problem is that if we use any symbol associated with fascism, white nationalism or similar movements the MSM and everyone else will be on our asses as soon as they find out.

We need a new symbol and identity to stand out and not be bogged down with the connotations of the past. The ideas will be the same, but they will have a new face.
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>>137379090
>I'm not Alt Right.

You classic right? Which flavor?
The neo-classical reactionary nazi?
The futuristic italian fascist?
The monarchy revival "dark enlightenment" fag?

The right is powerless, and this alt-right is just a feelsgood party, exactly bread and circuses, its like throwing eggs at a house and running away. Its the only indulgence people can afford.
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I agree with OP what hitler said is to have your own movement and others will join,politicians and celebrities will try to get on board like rats in a new boat we don't need any of that,they'll simply join if successful or try to work for us but we don't let them in,that way if they promote us,good for us,if they do something stupid,it doesn't get hanged on us,we stay out of those things.
I'd like to know more about this development.
Also having a symbol we can identify and isn't mainstream or well known will be useful,we can change it every now and then if we get infiltrated
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>>137395657
everyone of course.
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>>137396109
I don't think anyone would recognize it and it looks aesthetic af imo
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>>137396266
>You classic right? Which flavor?The neo-classical reactionary nazi?The futuristic italian fascist?The monarchy revival "dark enlightenment" fag?


All of those are left faggot gypsy
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>>137396600
Oh, so you are the special snowflake flavor of right, that denies the government and calls others leftists.
Thats even less viable, so don't think there is more to your ambitions than watching rednecks run over people with cars. Its as far as you will get.
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>>137396266
>If your nor alt right, what then?
What about being an adult?
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>>137396266
If I had to REALLY put a label on myself, I'd say a continuation of what Germany had, or at least the honest version that hasn't been rewritten countless times. Even then, I can't exactly say. The spectrum isn't precise.

I'm sure somewhere in history, the world had a standard of "right wing" that worked before (((they))) came along.

Not all of humanity is the same, though. We're all different in the arena of nature.
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The alt-right are either retards or controlled opposition at this point. Anyone still clinging to such a shitshow of a movement is a useful idiot.
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>>137370052
I agree with you. In regards to the right-wing movement being infiltrated by people whom have an opposing agenda. I've genuinely conifères stating a political group, but I'd find it too cringe-worthy to work with random people that chat with online.
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>>137397316
>If I had to REALLY put a label on myself, I'd say a continuation of what Germany had

Nazism? Its a neo-classical reactionary movement with Keynesian economics.
A rejection of the future, at its time, which you'd already be late for, since we already have (and enjoy) things that require global trade - mobile phones, flat displays, internet, etc.
It was a product of its time, and going that way today would be a huge downgrade, as any country withdrawing from the global market will be eclipsed by those who stay and gobble its share.
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>>137397551
considered*
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>>137397420
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OP: Can you share your thought of Generation Identitaire in Europe? They are a cultural conservative youth organization that claim that cultural integration of non-europeans is impossible. That's it.

They don't bother talking about race, just that people of foreign ethnicity should leave Europe because their presence will wash out our native culture.
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The problem here originates in the idea of cresting a single solitary ideological bloc. The problem with the (((alt-right))) was it's big-tent nature, no true ideological standard set allowing the worst (i.e. stormie LARPers, Confederate LARPers) to represent the qhole. What was seen here in Charlottesville demonstrates the precise problem of identifying under a broad brush label. You allow infiltration and false flag quite easily by having a "movement" with no standards, as seen this weekend.

What needs to be done is the breaking up of the ideological reactionarys against the common globalist, postmodern, anti-western elite. This will save the growing anti-establishment sentiments from being easily smouldered via the elite, acting similar to bulkheads. Different ideological movements all for a similar goal, kind of like /pol/ before the reddit invasion.
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>>137373990
that first one brings tears to my eyes everytime
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>>137379048
>Agreed. Well-dressed, composed, and organized.
They extremely well organized and completely paranoid as well. If you want to be a member you have to let them look trough your social media accounts, emails, money transfers, phone records and everything like that even medical records. If there is anything suspicious, if you have engaged in homosexuality, socialist activism, or have a history of mental health issues you will not get accepted in the movement.

The reason for this high alert is that the police used to infiltrate these organizations. Everything is run by a secret nat-soc leadership, while the visual leaders are just media puppets.
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>>137398209
Funny you mention this. I follow a Facebook page about being against Antifa and they seem to love that group. However, I'm beginning to think that the group is either misguided or is a honeypot due to their blue-pilled views on the rally, and coincidentally went silent until earlier today. Free People Against Antifa, if you're wondering. Maybe you've heard of them.

In regards to Generation Identitaire, I don't know too much about them other than they make a few surprise visits to locations to hang their banners, light flares, hang around Poland, and sometimes Spain. Are they legitimate? I don't know. I did hear that Lauren Southern, who rubbed elbows with "agent" Richard Spencer seems to have a focus toward Generation Identitaire, which raises questions. Who they are is still a mystery to me.

>>137398462
Unity can and cannot work. Like I mentioned about the EU and the Third Reich. Both had unity, one of them was bad, being the EU.
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>>137399208
Forgot a video. Not the same group, but similar. This video was the kickoff to Europe's mainstream resistance movements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-lAGj_dlQ
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>>137370052
An army full of weirdos with waifu pillows would look more presentable than pudgy faggots screaming "gas the jews". There needs to be a culling of the ugly and stupid. Not being cucked doesn't cut it anymore, we need higher standards.
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>>137399987
>>137400025
>>137400199
*kisses you*
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>>137399208
>Are they legitimate?
They are legitimate, but they are largely blue-pilled normies and have femanons in their movement, which is exactly why they succeed. Trying to organize /pol/ is not intelligent.
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>>137370052
>Labelled as Anti-Communist, but NOT in the name of Trump, meaning the movement is NOT a pro or anti-Trump movement. Trump is IRRELEVANT in the rally

This is good imo

However you have to have leaders. You can't expect to be a movement and not have a leader

The thing is, you have no way whatsoever to ensure someone is genuine vs a shill. You just have to be trusting.
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It's a way to make arresting "domestic terrorists" seem appropriate to normies.
Time to die.
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>>137370821
Republican anarchist militia (RAM) out of michigan is supposed to be working on something along the lines of what you describe, so far only their color sergeant has been making appearances with other militia to get a network going- they're picky as hell and organize ad hoc though, don't expect them to try and pull you in
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>>137404449
>Republican anarchist militia

This doesn't make sense as a title
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>>137404644
I said the same thing, they're apparently the "without rulers" style anarchists and call the govt elected and voluntary servants to the people. My impression is they're playing with the language to create dissonance in what people expect or they're just trying to troll subtly.
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>>137399208
In the case of the current reactionary spur growing in the West, unity would only make neutering it easier. Putting a label on yourself that puts you together with skinhead retards and LARPing stormfags-- whom you still somehow tolerate because "we need numbers in our movement guise"-- kills you in the eyes of the public. You'd need to stop seeing this as a solid us-versus-them battle. Not everyone, if not the majority of anti-globalists, like or want white supremacy or white nationalism. This isn't so much a call to redditify this alternative movement so much as it is breaking it apart so as to not strap a label on to anyone's back.

Now I'm trad-catholic, hate the current corrupt Francis church and clergy whom are just an extension of the globalist culture of death allowing homosexualists to infiltrate all the way deep into Rome, I see the current decline of faith in the West as the complete loss of moral, disciplinary integrity that it once had, allowing for the degeneracy we see rampant currently. Now, I see the virtues of a homogeneous society, especially in Europe, and the dangers of uncontrolled immigration without proper naturalization. I don't see much a point in racism, is the thing. I see merit before color, call me a reddicuck civnat if you wish.
I can tolerate White Nationalism and nationalism in general, really. We're all working toward the common goal of anti-globalism and halting destruction of the West and its culture, whether you'd like it or not. We're just working from different angles. That's the key.
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>>137370052
Also helping out communities with fundraisers and donations and helping at shelters would be incredible for your PR. Plus it's always nice to give back. Think about it! Evil Alt-right is helping feed homeless and raise money for cancer while almighty antifa is rioting still.
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>>137370821
>>137370863
We need to do something like what the Golden Dawn do in Greece. Not just rallies and torch-lit marches, we need to do charity and community policing as well. We need a constant presence both in the streets belonging to our enemies and our allies. For our allies, we offer protection and security from commie thugs and niggers. For our enemies, a watchful eye and a secondary police force that is specifically watching them. We need to set up patrol routes in these target communities, if we establish ourselves as their protectors we will gain their support easily. A child will not vote against their parent, nor a politician their bodyguards. We need to establish charities and homeless shelters for poor whites, if we start to help whites more than the government they will naturally want us to replace the government.

These are the tactics that Golden Dawn has employed to their local Greek populations, they are now pulling at 17 members in their parliament and growing quickly. Their numbers will only increase as the leftist government in power at the moment and the rapidly collapsing economy will make people desperate for other solutions. This will happen to the West as well in the coming years, we must become that alternative when the population becomes desperate. I don't wish suffering on my own people, but this is the best way for us to come to power. It's how the Nazis, fascists, and Francoists all came to power in the past, it's simply our best shot.
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>>137373990
This. I don't know much about National Action, but the NRM is a fantastic example to follow.
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>>137373990
Nah, what you need to do is have more rallies and go completely defenseless.

Only disciplined people should go, people who are ready to lose life and limb.

You cant even defend yourselves anymore. You just have to march and get fucked up completely all the time to show how liberal cities refuse to protect right wing people and endorse leftist violence against them.
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>>137409919
>>137410844
Speaking of NRM, we should start setting up training camps throughout America, Canada, and the rest of Europe. Too many of our white brothers have become fat, unhealthy, and complacent. Sloth in the body follows from sloth in the mind, but solving it goes the same way. We can offer free weight loss courses for white men and women at these training camps and have them train right alongside our footsoldiers and bring them into our cause. The patrols I mentioned can be trained here and offer classes on physical fitness to their white brothers and sisters.
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>>137410921
Rallies only serve to establish a presence. The view the public holds of us is not exactly the highest regard. Establishing a presence will only scare them and drive them to the left. We need to form charities and help white people first to improve our image with the public, then we can show our hand and show how big we really are.

If we start doing more and bigger rallies now, the public will react like "Look at these evil Nazis, and there's so many! That means they can do even greater evil than I thought!" But if we do a few years of charity and establish ourselves as benevolent the reaction to future rallies would be "Look how many Nazis there are, they can do so much more good with so many people!".
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