Brit/pol/ - King Henry V edition

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Start going to church.

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>>137267531

First for Ulster.

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Give me your FINEST Anti-Northern Irish meme

>>137267620
>self imposed handicap
No.

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>>137267867

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Go to mass

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>the EU is unelec-

>>137267531
We'll I'm done wrecking the shit out of brits on why America is better than Britain
And why Jews are good
I'll be back later
(I changed my trip code so you SJWs can see this)

Sorry for my actions last thread mates, I actually love you Brits and wish I was a Brit and I even drive a mini and listen to the Beatles and drink bisto gravy and ribena while eating digestives every day. One day I hope to visit your island and wear a bowler hat and meet with JK Rowling my favourite author of all time. Toodle-pip chaps! (Haha did I get that right?)

Theresa May will ban online pornography (so that there will be no more misogynistic rape gangs in cities like Rotherham) Thank you mummy may

>>137267531
>tfw no conservative GF
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4EhKVJccvPDs5dF8hxQ3JQ

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Also to add on to my David Kurten Shilling in the last thread , he want to get rid of hate crime laws , so at least when he wins you can call him a nigger and not let a flat you own to him

https://www.davidkurten.net/about-1

>>137268004
the land you concurred will eventually conquer you :)

>>137268069
USA USA USA

>>137267620
Which one?

>>137268010
Monarch Before Pope.

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Nice hanging with you fags, see you in september for the maypocalypse.

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>>137268207
I concur.

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>>137267867
Gerry Adams

Mates how can I get my foreskin back from the local Rabbi?

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>>137268197
>there are "people" in this thread who support AMW over Are Dave
They have to go back

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>>137268049

A foreign parliament supreme to our own is unacceptable.

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>>137268645
Parliament being supreme over the Crown is unacceptable.

>>137268010

I don't know much about religion. What is the difference between Catholics, Protestants and Orthodox?

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>>137268728

A Crown being supreme over God is unacceptable.

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>>137268836
Not when you bring God to you.

>>137268207
sike, fag. feinans will always suck the dick of the mighty hun

>>137268897
You don't get to bring Papal supremacy

>>137268829

Not a whole lot actually.

Prots just don't have as strict a hierarchy that the apostolic churches do, which opens them up to really bizarre and extreme interpretations of biblical teachings.

Recommended Brit/pol/ Viewing

>BBC The Great Offices of State: 1. The Dark Department
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyGhg8BmECw

>BBC The Great Offices of State: 2. Palace of Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8fOhg2XoKs

>BBC The Great Offices of State: 3. The Secret Treasury
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEwdo_AlqKQ

>The Secret World of Whitehall Episode 1 The Real Sir Humphrey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utDEkUWyQ8Y

>The Secret World of Whitehall Episode 2 Behind the Black Door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpK7jajX-rQ

>The Secret World of Whitehall Episode 3 The Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w55A9o9AGiY

>>137268836
Crown isn't supreme to God, it derives authority from God.

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>>137269162
That's why you eradicate it, not spread it.

>>137268829
They're all fucking stupid so don't worry
Although Protestants are the least stupid

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>>137269208

It was a Catholic joke but thanks for contributing.

>>137269172
MONARCH BEFORE POPE

>>137268829
Catholicism was the first Christianity. Orthodox left because they didn't like the primacy of the Pope, despite Christ specifically giving metaphorical keys to St. Peter (Pope's claim is he's Peter's successor) to the gates of heaven.

Different protestants split at different times. Anglicans split in 1534 when Henry VIII wanted to divorce Catherine of Aragon, but the Pope & Catholic Church teaching opposes divorcing & remarriage

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/Are Lezza/

>>137269597
VIST

>>137269408
>the only reason England became Anglican is because Henry VIII wanted to get divorced
This meme is retarded.

>>137269526
Peter Sweden is sound. He's pretty new, and I don't put him in the category of those dumb e-celebs, he's doing genuine journalism in Sicily and elsewhere. Why the fuck is that stupid lezza going after him? He's not even got 100k subscribers I think.

>tfw my family always make fun of me

VISIT THE NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY

>>137269526
>(((Sweden)))

>>137269408
Completely false.

>>137269721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Uq2gnPHu0

>>137269769
He's been called a bigot and put on a blacklist by the Swedish government lel.

>>137269408
Henry VIII sought an anullment not a divorce

>>137267620
I went to church.

Priest was saying a bunch of liberal stuff I didn't agree with.

Stopped going to church.

>>137269691
Believing the coincidence that Henry suddenly found the Church to be irredeemably corrupt at the exact moment he wanted to split from his wife is even more retarded

>>137270019
Pathetic on your part. Leaving this stuff unopposed will only make it worse.

>>137269881
That rather genuinely tickles me.

I remember about maybe 20 years back thinking Sweden was very enlightened place. Everything I have learnt since has been to the contrary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFmOg2mEl6Q

>>137269881
So has Majid pakiwaz and pewdiepie

>>137269408
>>137269172

Thanks anons.

>>137270019
Find a better church. A lot of them have essentially devolved into progressive clubhouses for old people.

>>137270100
>beleiving that Henry could have successfully converted the entire nation just to get divorced
You're a retard lad.

>>137270019

yeah Christianity is shit

>>137270260
Pewdiepie? Fucking hell.

>>137270117
So if the vicar is plainly a cuck what course of action would you take?
>excuse me vicar can you be a bit more racist please?
>Hello Sunday School, this week we are going to learn about (((them)))
>Cucumber Sandwiches and Right Wing Death Squads

>>137267531
King Henry V de Plantagenet

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>>137269717
Mine too

Fuck it lads I'm off to Ireland
Can't be fucked with how this country's going

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>>137270458
Fuck off tricolour, you're not allowed to talk about monarchy anymore.

>>137270100
Look up John Wycliffe, Papal-fucker.

>>137270458
>french cuck doesn't understand national identity amongst medieval aristocrats and royal title holders
Henry V was shit tier but some """"""French""""" kings genuinely were decent. Henry II who is in my top 5 to name one.

>>137267531
hi fellow brits , why can't we have huge antifa brawls in the UK ?
anyone else feeling left out ?

>>137270019

Should have called him a heretic.

>>137253974
Islam is the 'religion' of the savage, backwards, base, instinct driven nigger. White men are too good for the fucking Satanic arseholery of that fucking scumbag 'religion'. Did you ever stop and ask why the jailhouse niggers are drawn to Islam?

>>137270518
We all make fun of you.

Haven't seen you for a few days so here's a good one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_sawing

Hard to do yourself but I'm sure we would all help you out.

>>137270706
Lad, they're much older, bigger, organised and well established in Europe than the US anyway. We had the Battle of Cable Street here nearly a century ago. Why do people always want shit tier American issues to come to the UK? One we already have had and do have at that.

>>137270706
There have been a few incidences, like that march in manchester that ended up with a bunch of lefties chimping out. The fire is rising, happenings like yesterday will become more and more frequent.

>>137270706
Going out and punching people because they have differing opinions than you is fucking retarded.

>>137270706
You'll regret that.

>>137270977
It's fun though, and essentially what we're evolved to do.

>>137270906
because I want to stamp on a leftards face....

>>137270611
Isn't that that monkey from Ikea?

>>137270706
The average corbynista is not exactly the fighting type.

>>137270977
A lot worse than punching people with different opinions would need to happen if we were to LARP the UK into a better era.

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>>137270895
probably the worst one yet

>>137271106
Well as someone has pointed out, we've had a lot of instances of this and ANTIFA are always protesting here in Newcastle when there's a remotely ""right wing"" protest going on. It's older in Europe, and relatively new to the US, as I mentioned anyway.

>>137271131
Like a violent overthrow of Parliament and restoration of the queen into her rightful place as the ruler of Great Britain and Ireland?

>>137270458
Henry V spoke English primarily and pushed it at all levels, he was also the result of lots if intermarrying.

If Henry V is French then William the Conquer is Danish, using your very own logic.

>>137271175
You're welcome.

>>137271106
You're not alone but bong politics doesn't seem as fighty as it used to be.

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>>137271372
You read my mind like a book m8. Though we may also have to gun some ""innocent"" people down.

>>137270975
>>137270706
There was a semi chimpout at Croydon "south East infidels" protest half a year ago
https://youtu.be/i6ZQv7fVtl8
Our police do as good job at protection from antifa unlike the American police

>>137271106

Then you would most likely receive a custodial sentence.

The french are such animals

Alright, let's nip this in the bud right now.

The Church of England was formed in the 6th century by Saint Augustine of Canterbury.

Henry VIII sought an annulment on legitimate grounds, which is completely different to divorce.
The Pope denied this annulment as he was under siege by King Charles V of Spain, who did not want the marriage annulled for POLITICAL reasons, as he was related to Catherine of Aragon and had influence in the English realm from her marriage to Henry.

After breaking from Rome, Henry VIII remained an ardent supporter of core Catholic theological teachings - he had even argued against Luther for fucks sake. The Church of England was still Catholic, it was just out of communion with Rome, in the same way as various medieval European Catholic rulers had been when they were excommunicated or in political struggle with the Pope. It is likely that the Church of England would have quickly come back into communion with Rome if it wasn't for Mary, who was responsible for killing Catholicism in England by persecuting Protestants purely because of their faith and allowing England to be made a Spanish puppet through the Catholic Church.

The Church of England as we know it today was not created until the reign of Queen Elizabeth I with the Elizabethan Religious Settlement, a compromise between Protestants and Catholics in England to make the Church of England "CATHOLIC and REFORMED". It was at this point the Church of England
became "Protestant".

So no, the Church of England was not created by "a fat king so he could fuck xddd", it existed as an institution since the 6th century, established by a saint. It did not become Protestant until the reign of Queen Elizbeth I, some time after Henry VIII's reign and death. It would have came back into communion with Rome if it wasn't for the actions of Queen Mary.

>>137271827
Very informative lad but I'd also like to add as a side note, the completely negative portrayal of Henry VIII is almost as utterly retarded and a simplification of history as believing ties would be cut with Rome entirely over a king wanting to stick his dick in his new wife.

>>137271827
COE if it wasn't liberal would be GOAT.

Anglican churches are beautiful AND you get no popery.

Sadly it went the liberal route and will die a slow death as a result, all conservative protestants abandon it for smaller independent churches.

>>137272077
Henry VIII was viewed positively until there was a lot of revisionism in the mid 20th century.

Happens a lot.

>>137270260
pewdiepie is banned from his own country?

>>137272150

According to Hitchens it was infiltrated in the 50s/60s by actual atheists posing as clergy.

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>>137271827
>formed in the 6th century by Saint Augustine of Canterbury

You mean the same Augustine sent by the Pope to convert the inhabitants of this island to Catholicism?

>Sacred Anglican service

>>137272077
Yes, I neglected to mention the hundreds of Popish abuses over hundreds of years. I should've also included the fact that Protestantism was steadily growing in England and Scotland on their own regardless of the state denomination anyway.

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>>137272150
Presbyterian churches are the only ones that Evereywhere that are conservative, however if you live near London it will have a loose of Africans and chinks

>>137271271
>>137271546
The leftists seem to generally have the upper hand in terms of street violence across Europe. However it's pretty obvious the bulk of the working class is increasingly right-wing. If things really do come to a head, leftists won't stand a chance.

>>137272322
No, it's more like a registry. They record the names of Twitter and other social media accounts that they deem hateful. The official @sweden account then blocks them.

A few Israeli politicians even made the list, for fucks sake.

>>137272546
I live in Reading and want to start going to a presby and/or calvinist church, but yep , all chinks and africans.

I also don't like pop bands in church.

My ideal church would be one where I go there, sit down, listen to a sermon , perhaps exchange a few words with the minister and then leave.

Sadly I can't find that around me.

>>137272384
Your point being? It's the same institution.

>somebody's posted historical fact, better resort to ad hominem and strawmanning!

>>137272233
Feminists got frumpy about the number of wives he had. Voila reputation destroyed

>>137272322
Not banned just on some "hate preacher" or something list
He also lives in Brighton

>>137272773
Well one reason for the revisionism was this.

It was popular in the US too, who helped to fuel the anti-Henry VIII propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4tOb9J7W2k

The first half of Henry VIII was pretty bad though. Henry VII saved up a huge fucking warchest and Henry VIII blew it all on stupid campaigns to prove himself.

>>137272233
Yeah, I can name a hundred examples in Roman history of it occurring, but when it happens in our own history, we're subject to the same propaganda that makes us think Henry VIII was a fat, horny slimeball.

I'd say though, he's one of the only kings in English history to come close to absolutism and centuries after Magna Carta thats astonishing.

>>137272385
The Church of England has helped carve our place in the world.

framed my signed comics boys. I'm going to find honk next and take him to the Ritz for a pint

>>137273264
>wat

A vote for Corbyn is a vote for a state gf

>>137273371
i framed my signed comics and now I'm going to go into Wallsend to find Honk

>>137273264
>lives close to wallsend
>offers to take honk out for a pint
Wasted fucking opportunity. You could've offed him and celebrated with the lads.

>>137267531

Henry the 5th?
https://youtu.be/A-yZNMWFqvM

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>>137267531
King Ecgbert best king desu

>>137273256
I remember in History when we studied Edward Vi.

Basically the Duke of Somerset and Duke of Northumberland acted as his regency.

Our history teacher told us how when he was a young boy, the Duke of Somerset was the "good duke" and the duke of northumberland the bad one.

Now that he was an adult teaching history, the books taught the opposite due to revisionism in the 20th century.

Just amazing how we can simply with a few strokes of a pen change how someone is viewed for all eternity.

>>137273603
i was going to take him into chinatown and get him addicted to massage parlours and gambling.

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fuck sake the utter state of americans, this is the guy who did the car attack

>>137274082
kek his mouth is tiny

>>137274082
fucking dudley dursley

>>137274204
>>137274246
looks how close his eyes are jesus christ. my man is going through his emo (((edgy))) stage in school

>>137273681
>the Duke of Somerset was the "good duke" and the duke of northumberland the bad one.
How serious historical subjects are glossed over as if they were a movie plot or a cartoon with "good" guys and "bad" guys is insulting to the entire subject of historical study and a major oversimplification of real people and real rulers. It's also insane that the execution of his wives (that people get completely wrong time & time again) are discussed over, say, his reforms to our constitution and the legal acts he brought in. The latter would be subject of real historical value, worth teaching to children, the former is a (inaccurately told) character assessment of Henry VIII & one that shouldn't be substituted over the important aspects of his reign to be told to kids.

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>>137274082
Its a false flag, theyre saying its his vehicle, even tho the car belongs to Antifa Joel Vangheluwe

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>>137273666
*blocks ur path*

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>>137273666
*appears behind you*

Ireland and the UK are been invaded by Hordes of Muslims and Africans and you FAGGOTs are discusing shit that happened donkeys years ago. WE'RE going to have to forget our differences for the next decade to rid our islands of these Islamic monsters. I'm Irish and I would gladly stand shoulder to shoulder with an Ulster man to save our lands, WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

>>137274432
wasn't it debunked that it wasn't him he had posted on his facebook though?

>>137274631
>be irish
>have no real history
>come into british politics general and divert discussion about english history back to the same topics we discuss daily
Fuck off.

>>137274631
shame the majority of you potato niggers are too bothered about being IRISH and forgetting the subtle fact kebabs are overtaking at an alarming rate. good lad though need more of you

>>137274741
>have no real history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ireland

>>137274880
>be irish
>have shit tier history
>come into british politics general and divert discussion about english history back to the same topics we discuss daily

>>137274692
Nope, any police officer and look up that license plate and know the truth. Had my cousin look it up in his cruiser and ta da Autismo pops up

>>137274880
Look I can link wikipedia articles too!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_potato

>>137275176
Here's one more relevant for a British thread:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging

>>137275318
cucking??

>>137275318
>Fagging carried with it well-defined rights and duties on both sides. The senior, sometimes called the fag-master, was the protector of his fags and responsible for their good conduct.

>>137274603
>that hair
WE WUZ

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>>137273264
m-maybe one day anon...

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corbyn calling for may to rule out military action on nork.

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>>137276070
LEAVE NORKS ALONE

>>137276070
Corbyn is right

>>137276216
wait, do you unironically want to leave them alone? if so, why im curious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0q1gCsZykg

>grandma barges into my room when i'm looking at Anri Okita's instagram

FUCKING HELL LEARN TO KNOCK REEEE. good thing she didn't see my corbyn poster

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>>137267867

>>137276584

Post a pic of ur nan m8

>>137276446
>Lol just invade and kill a load of people

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>>137270895
I love this picture. The chap on the right is taking a picture of the victim's mangled willy with his smartphone.

>>137276667
oi

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This board has become too usa-centric. Every thread is about that statue stuff. While the election last year was good fun it just left a hangover of bandwagoning cunts.

>>137276934
worked for japan desu

>>137276446
See >>137239593

>>137277013

I bet that's what you said you ur nan m8 when she walked in on you looking at Anri Okita's instagram

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>>137277376
I wouldn't know, I only ever use britpol

>>137277376
the alt-right are never leaving /pol/, just like muslims and europe

>>137274631

Northern Ireland remains British forever, deal?

>>137277376
>This board has become too usa-centric.

You paddies will have your day on the 26th lad

>>137276584
What did you have onscreen when she came in?

honk for local labour councillor in wallsend

>>137277534
ye pretty much.

>>137277738
Sounds ominous

>>137277768
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVAEU-bDBbp/?taken-by=anri_okita

>>137276974
The smug face is a reaction image waiting to happen.

>>137276446
>>137277427
There were some quality posts on the pol situation in NK in that thread.

>>137276934
so if they test another nuke near guam and it kills US citizens, what would you propose US and everyone else does?

it's all well having nukes for deterrent for them to be left alone, but if they keep testing them inevitably some people will be killed then what?

>>137277654
I get why they live in Europe, their own countries aren't as good.

>>137277990
>Sounds ominous

McGreggor fight innit lad

>>137276584
>>137278019
Great, now the poor woman is probably going to pass away thinking that her great-grandchildren will be half-chink.

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NK is just sabre rattling...
>right?

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>people actually defending North Korea

>>137278019

Atleast she knows your not a bender lad

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4786720/Men-AirDropping-penis-pics-latest-horrifying-trend.html

Anyone here been airdropping thier cocks?

>>137278387
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/18/uk-gave-4-million-foreign-aid-north-korea-past-six-years/
https://www.voanews.com/a/united-states-humanitarian-aid-goes-to-north-korea/3692811.html
They won't do shit. Wish they would though, I could do with some action.

>>137278531
>open something to everyone
>surprised when cocks pop up

daft women desu

>>137278219
"Testing" them in Guam is called launching a missile strike on a foreign power lad. No chance they'll do that. Once they've developed a capable ICBM they won't need to keep testing their weapons.

Maybe if the US relieved sanctions and stopped threatening them they'd scale back their nuclear programme and testing.

>>137278219
But they haven't nuked anyone... your theoretical is meaningless. Obviously yanks have a right to defend themselves but Nork aggression is not unprovoked.

>>137278469
They unironically dindu nuffin.

>>137278531
Oh, airdrop is some iPhone shit. Jesus that headline put a weird image in my head...

>>137279023

Same lad, I imagined drones dropping printed dick pics into womens apartments etc

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>>137279023
>ywn drop thousands of polaroids of your nob on a french town

>>137278813
>>137278840
I need to inform myself on US and nork relations then. I was under the impression norks were unprovoked and kim said the first thing

>>137278945
Internationally, yes
Internally, no
Altruistic intervention to relieve the suffering of the people of a tyrannical nation is reasonable provided you have a properly developed game plan. The only reason Iraq was such a shitshow was because no one went into it with a clear idea of what they'd do once Saddam was gone, so there was nothing to stop the gaping power vacuum post-deposition.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/ned-central-stand-rail-union-10640012

why dont they just drive past the station and ignore from now on

>>137279273
They are under threat of US invasion.

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>>137279235
>ywn carpet-bomb Mecca with photos of your cock

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>>137276974
>>137278156

>>137279633
Well the Norks did publicly declare they were sodding off the armistice, and the US is a SoKo ally. Don't really know what else they'd expect.

>>137279633
So ethically and morally you think the US shouldn't invade?

>>137279677
at least we have ArabsExposed for slutty hijabi girls

>>137280369
They're a sovereign nation, leave them alone.

>>137280435
And the muslim dating app

>tfw constantly shitposted at every time a report of the GBP falling comes out.

When will this end

>>137278263
Oh yeah haha.

>>137280369
That shouldn't even be a question, let alone a general theory or thought people actually hold.

1. It's the United States.
2. It's not moral to invade a state. The only morality of it in history is one you can justify by your own merit, certainly not emotional arguments.

>>137280771
when GBP stops falling

>>137280771
when europe falls and the rivers run red with the blood of frogs (the animal not the french)

>>137279921
Norks aren't going to attack the US proxy state, but recent history has shown the Yanks may very well attack the Norks to impose (((international law)))

>>137280581
A sovereign communist nation that threatens our allies in the region. It's also not a good idea to have an oppressive unstable dictatorship with nukes.

>>137280968
Good goy, everyone should follow international law.

>>137280581
Might makes right

Reminder that you have twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors

Half of you are going to die with no heirs

>>137280942
>Norks aren't going to attack the US proxy state
They're putting a pretty good show on, though. Moving troops to the border, installing land mines. Almost as if they're getting ready for something.

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>>137280968

The fuck is this American shit being UK media's top story?

>>137280581
But do you want to risk having a crazy fuck in hold of nukes? 10 years time when they develop better and more efficient weapons then what

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>>137281063
As if communism isn't also extremely Jewish

>>137281548

Because they can use this particular story to tarnish both BLUMPF and white people; it's like their dream come true.

>>137281548
>Bunch of right-wing ethnonutters murder an anti-fascist demonstrator
Literally could not have made up a better story to support the lefty narrative

>>137281441
It's posturing to dissuade a US/Sork invasion.
>>137281128
Fuck off globalist cuck, international law destroys sovereignty
>>137281558
How do we know he's crazy? US reports? No, he's very sensibly keeping the world superpower on the other side of his southern border and maintaining authority over his state. Kim is no idiot.

>>137281548
Ethno-nationalism is abhorrent and wrong, Anon. Progressive, liberal and diverse countries are safer, more peaceful and more prosperous.

Reminder to support Israel

Today i saw Gerry Mccann walking around my local shopping mall in the suburbs of Lisbon...weird timeline.

>>137281972
> international law destroys sovereignty
Okay, but might still makes right. Sovereignty is a nice word, but it doesn't matter if someone can come and knock everything over by force.

>>137281745
Norks are about as anti globalist as you can get. Some other anon here had good argument against them being communist, but it's irrelevant. As a sovereign state they can run there country as they see fit.
The fact that I have to explain this to a massively leave voting general is fucking retarded. It's almost as if none of you actually knew what you were voting for.

>>137282066
Fucking hell, is he STILL walking around looking for her?

>>137282126
Which is why you maintain a strong military to dissuade globalist cucks from enforcing their international laws upon you. Oh look, exactly what the Norks are doing.

>>137282287
Just spending his compo leave him be

>>137282230
>The fact that I have to explain this to a massively leave voting general is fucking retarded.
I voted leave because I want Britain to run itself. And I'm sure the Norks want to run themselves. But as I say here >>137282126 it won't matter how I voted if the EU Army comes and annexes us in 50 years. I'm not exactly chuffed, but it is true.

>>137282388
The alternative is to maintain a strong military to force your will upon others. Oh look, exactly what the Yanks are doing.

>>137282388
Fair enough having a strong military if they were invaded is a case but threatening with nukes etc is a bit out there sanity wise

>>137282066
Did you give her back?

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>>137282066
>>137282287

>>137282723
The threat of nuclear retaliation to stop people invading you is EXACTLY what they're for

>>137282066

Do you think she's dead?

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>>137282534
>if

>>137281063
>>137281474
>I want nuclear weapons in the hands of a regime that's about to collapse but if anyone objects to this i'll just call them jews haha

>>137282534
Vietnam beat the US
Afghanistan was a scrub
US won't risk open war with Norks.
If you have a strong military, you can maintain sovereignty. The sad thing is the scraps of sovereignty we think we have salvaged with brexit are just a joke in real terms. A nation like NK is legitimately sovereign and carries out its governing as it sees fit despite direct conflict with the world's only super power. They should be admired, not for what they practice, but for the dedication against all odds under which they practice it.

>>137283001
Spartan/10

>>137282664
How's all the post American Interventionialist projects going right now?
Fucking retard.
>>137282723
It's MAD and it works. They know they are out gunned and unpopular on the global stage, but here they are with continued sovereignty despite desperate attempts to remove that from them.

>>137282892
sacrificed to theresa may

>>137283053
>that's about to collapse
Hello DoD.

>>137283315
Fair enough to have the balls to do it or be """willing""" to do it MAD. MAD favours the weaker nation though doesn't it in a sense? That nork is smaller compared to US but thanks to MAD all nork essentially have to have is one working nuke and have it as a threat if they intervene. Quite smart thinking about it like that.

>>137283077
>Vietnam beat the US
Hippies beat the US
You also ignore the way they successfully asserted their influence in the Gulf War, Grenada and Panama between Vietnam and Afghanistan, as well as Iraq, even if they fucked up the clean up.

>>137283315
It's hardly MAD yet, for that to work there has to rough firepower equivalence. If a confrontation with NK goes nuclear, they would be unilaterally glassed. Unless chine steps in oc

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>>137282892
Ofc, they killed her

>>137283315
>How's all the post American Interventionialist projects going right now?
Mixed results.
Japan and South Korea are certainly much better for American intervention and occupation.

Reminder that Noel Edmonds' new show starts tomorrow and we must all watch it because he is /ourguy/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAo-xyIEEkI

>>137283541
I think people misunderstand me for respecting the Norks by assuming I also support how they operate. I don't, but as they are a sovereign state I have no right to dictate them how they should govern. This is completely antithetical of US doctrine of imposing global international law regardless of consent and legislated by themselves. The level of cuckery in this thread of people welcoming US enforced international law while LARPing about being free because of Brexit is either hilarious or depressing.

>>137283863
When's he going to turn out to be a nonce?

>>137283490
North Korea relied on the Soviets to keep it going, until the Soviets collapsed. Now their only ally China is distancing itself and they have basically the entire world against them. They're not going to last long.

>>137283597
True, but those were small countries with outdated mil. The US have never fought a truly modern army directly. And the few times they have been involved in large scale conflicts they had multiple allies.

>>137283597
>It's not a loss if I qualify it as a loss in a certain way
Fuck off.
>>137283666
Agreed I suppose, my general point is Norks have made it clear they won't go down without a hell of a fight and that is what has maintained their sovereignty.
>>137283793
The ME is a mess, possibly intentionally as I discussed with a few anons in the other thread. But it's still a mess regardless.

>>137283967
>The level of cuckery in this thread of people welcoming US enforced international law while LARPing about being free because of Brexit is either hilarious or depressing.
You don't seem to understand that people fundamentally object specifically to the way in which NK is run far more than they respect about its sovereignty, in the same way they object to the way the EU is run far more than they care about the benefits membership brings.

>>137283863
>1PBTID
Fuck off Noel no one wants to buy your 'cancer curing' machine you snake oil salesman

I'll post a second time but I shall never give a dirty tripfag a (You).

>>137284129
As another anon was saying in the other thread, Kim is well into the process of economic reform which is in line to make Norks self sufficient. People have been saying they'd collapse when they were formed, then when the USSR collapsed, then when Jong Il died, and now because Trump's waving his dick around for attention.

>>137284432
What about radio for pets?

>>137284361
>I respect sovereignty but only if foreign nations adhere to the ways I personally consider correct
Fuck off.

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>>137284306
>>It's not a loss if I qualify it as a loss in a certain way
I did use the word, "beat," Eddie. The US lost, but they would have kept going if they hadn't lost public support at home.
>The ME is a mess
No shit, because the US went in just trying to suppress threats to Saudis and Israel without a proper plan for how they'd sort it out. This was the mistake. Deposing these dictators by force was not the mistake.
I won't say US intervention in Korea will magically go right, it may well not, but the basic idea of removing the Nork regime is something I'm for, and I wouldn't condemn the US for acting until it's become clear they've leapt before looking.

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Diversity levels of advertising are reaching critical levels it's gonna blow!

Get down!!

>>137270019
Find a better church. Dont be a faithlet like the lefty tolerance police want you to be.

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>>137284716
No deal

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>>137284972

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>>137285078
>faithlet
Fuck me, that's brilliant

>>137284887
As a sovereign nation, nobody other than Norks has any right to dictate how they run their own state. The whole point of sovereignty is that the state is the ultimate legal authority, having to adhere to nonsense international laws written by foreigners with big sticks is completely contrary to that and you're a fucking faggot for support such a globalist policy.

>>137284775
No, that's not what I said. I never said anything about respecting sovereignty.
As I've already fucking said, if the EU Army invades and conquers us then there will be fuck all we can do, and I will have no choice but to accept that so long as 'my guys' are the weaker force. But while we have a peaceful discourse with them I will gladly advocate using it to leave an organisation I disapprove of.
In the case of NK, you have factions in a state of perpetual war with their neighbours; armistice or no, the state of conflict hasn't ever truly ended. Each has maintained that the other is legitimate, each has maintained defences on the border. And now tensions are starting to escalate again, and lo and behold, the SK ally is posturing behind them, because that is their role.

>>137285303
Right, that's a great sentiment, but it doesn't matter if a foreign power comes and forces their will on you, forces international law on you etc. It's like the NAP, if someone bigger than you decides they won't respect it you're fucked. Sovereignty ends where military intervention begins. This isn't a new phenomenon. It's sad, but true.

>>137285902
Picture says 1000 words.

>>137285902
How do you accidentally get on the wrong plane?

Lads I've been frozen out of 4chan for a couple of days in a period of clear happenings. Is there anything I should be aware of about Charlottesville which I won't have got from mainstream media coverage?

>>137285902
Does that guy have his hand up the White baby's skirt?

>>137286060
Kek
i didnt think anyone would get it that quick.

>>137286122
No, it is as dumb as it looks.

>>137285522
You've literally just done the same thing again. You're fine with Norks beige sovereign as long as they do what you want them to do.
Fuck off.
Norks are doing the correct thing by building a strong military with every capability they can gather in order to maintain their state. If Norks strike first, then yeah fine, you've been forced into a war of defence. However if you feel the need to invade a sovereign state because they don't like you arming their enemies and amassing troops on their border, then you're not justified whatsoever in your actions.
Sovereignty is almost dead in this world, and you're advocating the extinction of one of its last bastions.
>>137285865
Norks are still independent
Cuba is still independent (throughout commie rule and collapse of USSR)
Vietnam is still independent
You don't need the biggest stick to fend off attackers, a bloody nose will dissuade the vast majority of wars of choice.

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>>137286288
>A cry for help

>>137285902

>my_wifes_son.jpg

>>137286383
>Norks
>Independent
Relying on your massive neighbouring country for defence and food almost totally is real independence.

>>137286683
Legislatively they are.

>>137286383
You're missing the fucking point.
It's the US's prerogative to try and reshape the world in their image. It's the Norks' to resist them. If the Norks can do it, then they get to stay sovereign. If they can't, then that's that. You don't have to like it, I don't like it, but it's how it is. Just being 'sovereign' isn't enough to change that. Sovereignty is not a magic spell which makes it impossible for foreign powers to exert their influence over you.
I personally don't like the NK regime. I think it is the right thing to do. I think the way the NK regime treats its citizens is morally indefensible, even if it's their prerogative as a sovereign nation to do so. So if the US were to successfully overthrow it, and properly administer the area afterwards, I would support them. But if the Norks were to fight them off, then there's nothing more to be said. They get to stay sovereign, keep doing what they doing, and I have to lump it.
It's not, "do as I say or stop being sovereign." It's, "sovereignty only lasts as long as you can back it up and defend it," and if the Norks can't then they've got no choice but to take the US cock.

>>137267620
but local church is in court in a pedo row

>>137285902
>BASED uncucked Poles

>>137287394
Denomination?

>>137287560
cathocuck

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>>137287644
what a shock catholic paedos oh wow how does that happen

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>>137286848
Big whoop. That doesn't matter when the government can't honestly reassure its citizens they're able to get enough food to feed everyone unless you count lying to them constantly as a reassurance.

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lets hang out and read comics together honk

>>137287766
lots of child molesting protestant priests have also been reported my friend

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>>137287929
Hey, so long as there's still grass they'll never go hungry

https://www2.uthgard.net

Anyone want to play this and create a guild/clan on Albion?

>>137287352
Are you thick? I've said repeatedly now that a strong military can dissuade such wars of choice.
Norks are successfully maintaining their sovereignty through its military expansion and nuclear programmes. The point is people condemning them for such actions are wrong and the US is in the wrong to be amassing troops on Norks border.
How Norks actually treat their citizens is highly up for debate, with most of the information coming from Yanks and SK sources. Both of which have huge motivation to falsify evidence to paint a negative image of NK, not something they haven't done before.
I don't agree with Communism at all, but here is where you're missing the fucking point, we have no right to tell another state how to operate.

But there is one fatal area of my entire argument I will concede. Arguing that Norks have a right to practice as they wish also extends to other sovereign states, such as the United States, so the only was to stop them would be to impose international law which yet again removes sovereignty. This is more a LARP exercise of a fantasy world, but unfortunately in the real world globalism will continue to march on, especially when so many actually seem to welcome it, and ours and everyone else's nations will slowly be swept away under the same wave of flashy lights metal and glass until we're all indistinguishable and under the same global laws.

>>137287929
Nork citizens have a right to depose their leadership.

>>137283967
Dunno why these anons are still bothering trying to argue with you after our discussion

Why do people bother browsing wider/pol/ any more?
It's literally thread after thread of low quality bait

all i care about politically is the suffering of women

i dont care what happens, so long as they suffer, let the migrants rape them

>>137270706
Our police put hundreds of policemen between nationalists and Antifa protesters.
Whereas the American police seem to have, perhaps deliberately, funnelled the dispersed nationalists into Antifa groups.

>>137285902
>you need to start asking questions, dave

I'm a potatoe salesman

I pretty much sell potatoes

potatoe

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>Theresa May to offer free 'Schengen deal' to Irish citizens allowing them in and out of Britain after Brexit

>>137288431
>I've said repeatedly now that a strong military can dissuade such wars of choice.
Yes, but if it's not strong enough to stop the Yankee wave it won't be able to.
>Norks are successfully maintaining their sovereignty through its military expansion and nuclear programmes
Which I at no point denied, and in fact conceded (>It's the US's prerogative to try and reshape the world in their image. It's the Norks' to resist them.)
>the US is in the wrong to be amassing troops on Norks border.
You may think so, but I might argue they're acting in the interests of the starving Korean masses. That's the thing with right and wrong, it all depends on your perspective.
>with most of the information coming from Yanks and SK sources.
And large amounts coming from independent journalists and direct from 'defectors' (see: escapees).
>we have no right to tell another state how to operate.
Again, might makes right. It may not be the most moral or ethical way to do things, but if you've got the strength and will to exert your authority there's nothing anyone can do to stop you, no matter how many times you screech about sovereignty.

>>137289143
>what is the CTA

>>137289264
I'm guessing to didn't read the last half of my post? Sort of blackpilled my motivation out of continuing this discussion.

>>137289330
>CUT TUITION FEES
>PROPERLY FUND THE NHS
>GIVE IMMIGRANTS MORE MONEY
>RAISE MINIMUM WAGE

bloody money tree

>>137288615
'Rights' don't exist. The only rights you have are the ones you are both willing to defend and capable of defending.
The freedom to speak without state reprisal is a right which we don't fully have in most of Europe, because the European people are unwilling to defend it, they'd rather distasteful speech be quashed. But in the US they have a different attitude towards it, they're far more willing to defend it, so they can deny the Holocaust as much as they like without going to prison. Same for bearing arms.
Then, in this country we consider access to healthcare a right, and so we have the NHS to deliver healthcare free at the point of use. While in the US they consider it a privilege, or a service, not a right, so if you can't afford it you're shit out of luck.

>>137289330
>free education
I love this shit. On one hand you and your family will pay taxes all their lives to cover 'free education'. On the other, maybe if we weren't importing so many doctors and engineers, maybe the gibs could be funnelled into helping our own.

>>137289330
I want 2-in-3 students to be kicked off their course before we do that. Start with social sciences, continue into arts.

>>137290064
REE stay away from my degree faggot

>>137289818
B-b-but they're the backbone of are en haich ess!

Semanya won the 800 what a shocker. Time to race against males you cheating tranny cunt

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>>137289330
>poll finds people want 'free' shit
Wow who would have thunk.
I don't want to pay for some cunt's education when I went straight into work.

>>137290202
>Semen ya

>>137289783
As I've already addressed, in the real world you're correct. It's your welcoming of it that makes you a complete and utter faggot.

NEW
>>137290424
>>137290424

>>137290169
If you're not training for a profession you don't need it, faggot
And if you're in social science you need to consider switching to a field where results are actually replicable

>>137290414
I don't like have to like something for it to be true. But if it can occasionally support my beliefs, why shouldn't I capitalise on it?

>>137290584
Because the destruction of sovereignty in any national, regardless of if you agree with that states use of it, is a horrible thing. Once Norks submit to globalist law, a huge milestone in the world has fallen. Why on earth would you welcome the destruction of nationhood?