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How do we stop this jewish degeneracy being forced into our country?
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What's going on in Straya? I'm out of the loop
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>>137050473
Our retard government is holding a postal ballot because it is fucking incompetent and our PM is desperately flailing around like a retarded child to prevent being knifed in the back, though why he bothers I don't know because the LNP is going to get fucking rolled at the next election and he'll lose his job after for sure.
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>>137050343
idk get some tiki torches or something
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>>137050343
Are we banning faggots?
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>>137050473
Someone keeps bribing our politicians to push their agenda. There is absolutely no criminal punishment for politicians taking bribes here. Traitorous cunts in parliament dont give a fuck about Australia so long as they get their pay day. Mark my words, something is brooding in Australia, and the blood of traitors and enemies will soon be spilled
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>>137051068
shut up flaggot
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>Gays get married with Love Is Love slogan
>Demand money and hand outs for mistreatment
> 2050 Pedophiles use Love is Love slogan
>Politically correct kids will see this as their revolution
>''You used to treat blacks and gays the same!''
>fucking children is legal aswel as marriage

Screen it folks it'll happen
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>>137050343
https://m.whitsundaytimes.com.au/news/pollie-tickled-its-all-gay-and-hearty-for-a-libera/3211322/

ASSESSMENT task: Deal with marriage equality issue so as to appear to satisfy all sides yet deliver no change. Student: Malcolm Turnbull. Method draws on prior research. Sequence to follow:

Make yet another attempt at a national plebiscite run by Electoral Commission. Result: same old defeat in the Senate.

Shrug shoulders, say "We now have a mandate to run a postal plebiscite without having it approved by Parliament."
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>>137050343
Look into Get Up!

It's the main organization pushing for gay marriage and, surprise surprise, it's Soros funded.

Dig up some dirt on them or something. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard
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Ş͍̦̤̘ͯͤͯ͑ͨ͑͗̄ͩ͟͡ ̧̞̰̖̟̈̋́̚͠Ļ̼̘͇͙̉̿ͧ̒̊̔ͯͩͣ͆̃ͣͤ̿͂ͨ͛ͨ͑̀́͡ ̴̛̛̝͙͉̬͉̬̘͍̦͓̔͒ͩ͂͛̽ͮ̍̈̇ͫͫ̇͐́ͬ́I̡̫͚̬̼̙̼̭͍̣̳̭̘͉̤ͭ̿̂̈́͐̐ͬ̓ͬ̌͗ͫ̂̓͡ͅ ̶̢̨̗̺̜̼̹͇̗͎͉͈͗ͬͧ͋̇͑̐͊ͮ̐͝ͅͅṖ̨̘͙̞̗̰͒ͮ̌ͪ̓ͭ̋̍͐ͤ̽ͮͯ̕̕ ̧͉̤̖̼̜͉͇̫̎̏͌͑̀͐ͤ̏̒͛̋͗ͣͮ͒̋P̸̡̖̞̩̖͕͉͍͎̤̽́̐̋ͦͭͧ̾͑̐̚͡ ̵̧͇̻̫̦̼͉͍̝͈͆ͤͬ̍͆̄ͯ͒̒̑ͫ̍̌ͅE̢̢͚̮̙͕̓̆̓͛͑̉ͯ͆ͩ͟͜ ̧̧̛͙̳̤̠̠͕̝͇̯̭̰̗͇̭͈́ͭͨ̉̄ͯ̾̊ͦ͋ͯ̌͘ͅR̵̷͚̰̤̯̙̺̘̟͗̑ͭ̊̊ͩ̀̎̊͆̇ͭ̾̒͋̆́͘͞ ̷̨͔̯̞̦͈̟͍͔̱̗̫̳̰͛ͮ̋̂̄̄̓̓͡Ỳ̘̜̩̭͓͈̗̮͕͖̥̞̦̹̳͇̭͋̍͆̎ͩ̓͌̏̓̿̑̇͑ͩ́͟͠ͅ ̧̜̯̥͕̣̼̻̝̰͎̺̊̐̐̒̊ͩͨ̃̆͗̏ͧͭ̚ ̶̡͔͙̼̬͇͍̠̰̥̖͎̗̻͈͎̥̌ͪ̈́̍͛̔͟͡ͅ ̵͇̩̼̳̭̳̰͖͓͔͙̦̪̟̂̒̏̐̽ͬ̆̃̈́̈́́͠S̞̱̗̠̝̹̱̬̯̰̙̯̫̤̏͌͑̾ͤ̐̿́̀̕͡ ̵̢̺̜̺̦̊ͯ̏̉̎̄̿̽̈́́͛ͨ̀L̠͓̝̤̟͈̀̄ͩ͛͐͢͜ ̨̺͕͚̼̙̞̂̐ͮ̾̇́͊̒̒͌͗̓̾̀O̜͙̤̤̰̪̬̣̠͕̝͙̺͇̳̤̥̍͑ͮ̓̈̿̈̊̓ͭ̆̀́̀ͅ ̷̶̡̧̟̝̻̬̮̼̣͎̠͎̱̖̟̻̼̖̜͔̟̀ͪ̀͐ͬͫ̄̽ͩ̏ͭͩ̐͛ͭ̈P̢̙̹͈̱͎̖̼̩̘̄̋̈́̍ͮ̉̎͗͋͋́ ̨̛̱͇̰͉̦̙̿͛́͗̓̾ͬͧͯ̀ͭͤͭͪͤ͗E̸̬̰̠͎̣̞̖̘̤̗̜̤͉̙̫͋̄̍ͩ́͢͠͠
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>>137050343
I'm voting yes, It seems that's what the people on channel 7 recommend and I trust them.
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>>137050343
I seriously hope you guys are enrolled to vote. Most of my social circle are going to vote no to this faggotry, but only because of the M word. They otherwise wouldn't mind the idea of civil unions.
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>>137051172
>>137051214
>>137051254
>>137051388
why is it always flaggots posting utter fucking cancer?
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>>137051438
How is my post cancer?
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I've seen at least 10 people on my facebook post "Love is love" images on their wall. It's like, congratulations you are taking a position that takes no courage, is mass accepted, took no intellectual vigor and was push into your empty mind by the media. Well done you fucken idiot.
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>>137051608
It's retarded internet slacktivist bullshit combined with a dumb conspiracy theory.
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>>137050708
For chilling at the tiki?
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>>137051254
>tfw know several people in Get Up
h-heh
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>>137050343
You can't stop it. Justice cannot be stopped.
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>>137051691
Or maybe they just agree with it?
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>>137050343
voting no is a jewish trick
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Where are all the anti gay marriage organisations?
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>>137051721
>Get Up!
>Soros
>conspiracy theory
i bet you think that the allegations of china manipulating our government are conspiracy theories as well
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Mfw my generation will either be nazis or gays (Gen Z).
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>>137051887
>the political views and direction of the entire world are controlled by some old dude
Yep, that's a conspiracy theory.

This just in: rich people give money to organisations they support. Call the fucking UN.
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>>137050343

Tweet shit at ABC people like Virginia Trioli (@latrioli). The more offensive, the better.

They've been told to refrain from being advocates on social media, but they're very emotional and reactive so you should be able to make them flip their shit easily.
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>>137051993
soros literally admitted that he wants to destroy western civilization. in his own book.
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>>137051721
It's not a conspiracy theory you fucking idiot.

Get Up! IS Soros funded and they are the main organization pushing for gay marriage. They also have ties with Bill Shorten.
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Who's pushing what onto who now?
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>>137051998
>Tweet shit at ABC people like Virginia Trioli (@latrioli). The more offensive, the better.

That'll change her mind. Fucking idiot.
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>>137052048
>REEEE PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS TO ME
okay

>>137052054
>It's not a conspiracy theory you fucking idiot.
Don't pretend like you were just incidentally pointing it out you fucking flaggot. It's clear that you buy into the whole "soros runs the world" bullshit narrative like the impressionable fucking teen you are.
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Three K's a day keeps the niggers away.

If you're 100% European descent aka white and you hate filthy niggers, dirty spics, kikes, arabs, furfags, gayfags, commiefags and all other scum on the earth (including weeaboo degeneracy!) as much as we do, you should join the Moon Central Discord Server. Introduce yourself in #introductions and answer our questions to get unkiked!

https://discordapp.com/ - invite/ - YvZen6k
(Remove the - )

1, 2, 3, 4 I declare a race war!

Sieg Heil
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Vote no, easy.
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>>137051998
nah you can lose your job or go to prison for tweeting offensive stuff nowadays.
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>>137052126
Good little goy, remember, Soros has NO influence in politics or economies of ANY country and anyone who says otherwise must just be a conspiracy theorist!
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>>137052116
Unless you give most people mind altering drugs, most people will have made their opinion up already.
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>>137052311
>>>/x/
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>>137052163
I am greek and have strong, manly greek voice.

I join?
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>>137050343
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>>137050343
Do u have to register to vote, what's the gesalt anon???
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http://www.aec.gov.au/enrol/
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>>137052508
Vote NO. Protect the holy institution of marriage.
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Aside from overthrowing the government, you don't.

Good luck.
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>>137052447
>Do u have to register to vote, what's the gesalt anon???
You have to be 18 to post here you fucking cunt.
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>>137052508
I haven't voted in any elections since 2000, will the AEC be ablt to track me down if I register???
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>>137052365
>>>/r_theDonald
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>>137050343
hm
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>>137052688
>tells others to go back to plebbit
>uses a meme flag and buys into the meme conspiracy of the month
Tell me about the boyscouts jamboree again, anon?
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>>137052687
>I haven't voted in any elections since 2000

wtf how old are you?
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>>137052686
I haven't voted since 2000 anon, if I register the cunts at the AEC will track me down.
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Is this the same Australian government who are still debating whether climate change is real? Why would you support those backwards cunts?
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>>137052754
I was more referring to your abuse of the English language.
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>>137052687
Check your enrolment
https://check.aec.gov.au/
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>>137052739
Have to admit you're good at baiting
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>>137052116
>That'll change her mind. Fucking idiot.

Lol, like you're going to change her mind. The point is to get her to breach her undertaking with the ABC viz their social media policy.
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>>137052126
GEORGE NEGUS: Can I ask you about our country, Australia? We're a member of the coalition of the willing. Do you ever think about Australia at all? Does it cross your mind?

GEORGE SOROS: A little, occasionally, and I don't really like the current political leadership in Australia. I don't like the way they treated the refugees and also I don't like them being that closely associated with Bush.

GEORGE NEGUS: What would your gratuitous advice be to Australia?

GEORGE SOROS: Change the government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZwugy0Cn3c
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>>137052972
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION TO ME
okay
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>>137052832
I want to vote no, but not pay 6 gorillion dollars in fines.
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>>137050343
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>>137053014
i posted an actual bit from an interview where he admits that the australian government should have been discarded (this was the bush era, and considering we're now allied with HITLER HIMSELF i think his opinions might be a bit stronger), and then i posted a video that has him admitting on camera that he likes to manipulate countries.
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>>137053076
thank you anon.
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>>137050343
You know you can't. Votes for women you know
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>>137050343
how the fuck is it not legal yet there

ITS TWENTY SEVENTEEN!!!!!!!!!!
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>>137053151
Yes, and?
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>>137053307
ikr we need street trannies selling their boypussis to minors
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>>137050343
bump, no gay marrige
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>>137050343

I'm voting for equality.
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Let it be known that it is indeed nu/pol/ faggots that are pushing the flaggots meme.
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>>137052054
No. No. No.NONONO
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>>137053420
but how do we stop this degeneracy??? My kikebook feed is full of virtue signalling LARPers.
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>>137053327
do you need him to literally come out and say "yes, i am meddling in the affairs of countries for my own personal ends", or are you unable to connect the dots?
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>>137052126
>It's clear that you buy into the whole "soros runs the world" bullshit narrative like the impressionable fucking teen you are.

Soros is a retard on politics and most people in power view him as such, but he's good at managing funds so ends up having a lot of cash to throw at his bizarre politics. So while he actually has very limited cache in the halls of power, he can still make things happen by just bankrolling a lot of weird shit.

He's put a tonne of cash into the migrant stuff and has had an appreciable effect there. Most of the time he just burns money on nothing, but sometimes he strikes luck.
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So I've checked my enrolment, what do I do now? Wait till the 24th? I'm 18, I've never even sent a letter before
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>>137053621
>are you unable to connect the dots?
WHAT FUCKING DOTS.

>rich man has political views
>rich man gives his money to organisations that align with his views in an attempt to move the world in the direction he wants it to travel, just like everyone else
>autistic fuckbutts on /pol/ read too much into it and see nth dimensional chess where it doesn't fucking exist

>>137053709
This anon is correct. Soros is just a normal dude like everyone else throwing money at things he sees as problems in an attempt to make them go away.
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>>137050343
you have no guns and your military is mostly female now. burn it all down and start over. your convict ancestors are cringing in the afterlife.be ashamed. be very ashamed.we used to respect you.
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>>137054024
oh no some random americunt doesn't respect my country i guess i'll go off myself right now
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>>137053523
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>>137053621
Get Up was exposed last year as part of the Wikileaks campaign, this is old news.
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>>137050473
They're about to vote in fag marriage and join the rest of the civilized world
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>>137054197
thanks anon
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>>137054197
Lol
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How long until islamic groups campaign for No, or false flag "islamic" groups campaign for No on their behalf?
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>>137051136
Normalfags need to get out
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How involved are jews in the Australian left ?
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>>137053523
Convince the yes side that they have it in the bag so they become complacent and don't vote. Simultaneously demoralize them so they don't bother voting because they're going to lose. Emphasize that voting is optional.

Redpill the fence-sitters with hate facts about disgusting homosexual practices, rates of disease, promiscuity (even in fag marriages), pederasty, and the extremely low fag marriage rate where it's legal. Normies should be disgusted by homosexuals when you're done.

Spread news stories from America about Christians being forced to BAKE THE FUCKING CAKE, BIGOT. Spread posts from fags gloating about how they're going to stamp out all opposition and force dissenters to celebrate, not just tolerate, their behavior after fag marriage has been legalized. Basically give them a vision of the future with a platform shoe stamping on a Christian face, forever.
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Friendly reminder to vote yes, i will be
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>>137054149
hurry the fuck up
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>>137050343
Short and sweet
>get some fanangally postal vote thingy in the post
>chuck it in the recycling
NO wins - only those with a vested interest will bother. There are more "Fuck No" right wing poofta haters that will be bothered than there are bleeding heart lefty pillow biters who'll get off their prolapsed anuses to vote

>govt. makes it a referendum
>everyone HAS to vote
YES vote - more people participating who'll say "Meh, wtf throw the bum bandits a bone"
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>>137054805
Forgot to add that if it's a referendum
>go to polling place any way to grab a sausage sizzle.
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>>137054590
Our political parties are theater. Zog says jump, we ask how high.
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>>137052054
What I don't get is why this is a big deal. People fund and lobby for their interests all the time in every single government around the planet. So why shouldn't Soros? Why is it a big deal when does it? That's a fair question, no?
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>>137050343
Australians are basically the shock troops of meme warfare. If anyone can affect social change from home, it's an Australian.
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>>137052249
You mean you can fire people who disagree with you or threaten to deport them*

works both ways.
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>>137050473
Fags want the govt to legalise fag marriage. Govt knows this will be political suicide so deferred it to a people's "vote" (non-binding) costing $122mil.

Majority of Australians hate fags and although you can't say anything in public - you will be attacked by the (((media))) and probably lose your job - this is a secret vote and you better fucking believe I'm voting "no" to fag marriage.
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>>137050343
don't you aussies understand that love is love?
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>>137053523
I don't know how to change Australians minds. We are different to America and can't be red pilled. Most people are lazy and just adopt the viewpoint that takes the least mental energy.
But if people with a public profile were to present counter arguments to gay marriage it would probably help alot of normies express their disapproval of it.
That is also why the media claim that the only groups with who would vote no have religious reasons. Christians have been trained to keep their beliefs to themselves.
It would help to present a moral argument against fag marriage that has no religious connection.
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>>137051254
>it's Soros funded.
Fuck me, I had no idea, and it's right there on the Wikipedia page. That fucking cunt. Fuck Soros, fuck Soros, fuck Soros.
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I'm voting yes no matter what I have to do to submit my vote but hopefully it won't come to this.
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>>137050343
answer, u don't. nice try trying to promote social conservatism in a liberal anglo saxon society. it's basically ogre at this point, unless the immigrant hordes vote against it. in California their pro LGBT legalization move was stopped by swarms of niggers and spics
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>>137051254
>Soros funded

FUCKING JEWS
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>>137055576
Nah it's more likely that the chinese who were born here will vote against it.
They're all bigoted and conservative as fuck.
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voted yes just to piss you faggots off lmao
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>>137052508
But it's being run by the ABS, not the AEC.
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>>137055710
lets hope so. the only hope for a vote against gay marriage is the non-white vote.
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>>137050343
>Immigration is at absurdly high levels
>Property prices are out of control
>Cities are becoming more crowded, congested, while there is no infrastructure to keep up
>Full time jobs are shrinking as more jobs become casual/part time
>Wages are not keeping up with inflation
>Young Australians are struggling to even get basic pizza delivery jobs or unpaid internships due to competion

Yet, the only thing that Christfag/Alt-right morons on the right and LGBBQ hispters on the left care to discuss is fucking gay marriage. I hate this country and its people so fucking much.
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>>137050343

We need a new far right movement. One Nation is dog shit and AFP is dead.
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>>137056013
Why are you blaming us faggot, the government decided some shit and now we have to defend marriage. Fuck you.
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>tfw the only people trying to stop this vote on fag marriage are the homo's themselves because all the polling shows a landslide victory for the NO vote

I love their excuses

>"Oh we know we would win... but ah... it'll ... umm hurt peoples feelings if we vote on it... so just...we should put through gay marraige without a vote"
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>>137056106
A vote for no is binding, a vote for yes is non binding.
And I'm not gay, i'm just a classical liberal who supports civil rights.
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>>137056089
It's the hard right of the Liberal party who are obsessed with the plebiscite since they unironically think that it will return a No vote. We're wasting 150 million on a fucking opinion poll.
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>>137050343
Find where they live and get em, stop making things so complicated brotha lol
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>>137053523
Tell them that by voting they are playing into the bigoted Coalition's hands and capitulating to their neo-Nazi demands. If they vote in the plebiscite then they are part of the problem and are complicit in what is a very traumatic experience for the LGBT community.
Not only do you appear to be taking the SJW high ground, but you're also helping us to win.
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>>137051214

I gut laughed watching these horrible faggots getting murdered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM6GP0FuhnQ
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>>137056244

I'm actually okay with two gay men getting married in their local government office or park they've rented.

But we all know that isn't what is going to happen. They are going to demand to be married in churches, they are going to demand bakeries make them cakes with two grooms on them. They will call up 20+ bakeries with the same order, hoping at least one of them will cancel the order just so they can sue them.

They will use the "Well two men can get married now, so why can't this even more stupid thing be allowed also?" arguments for every other form of degeneracy they can think of.
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>>137056013
It's all these issues the government is distracting the public from by having this bullshit vote.
I'd still vote no though
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>>137056106
everyone i know is voting no
most out of spite of the media coverage afforded this non issue
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>>137050343
Seriously.. who the fuck has time to care about this shit.. i don't care what other people do so long as it doesn't effect me or hurt anyone.. let men marry cows and women marry dildo's. Why do you care?
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>>137056668
Fuck off Jew. For anyone Aryans who agree with him: remember the kikes were saying exactly the same thing when homosexuality itself was to be decriminalised. What's next?
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>>137056512
I'm fine with a same-sex couple being recognised as a de-facto couple, or allowing them a secular civil union (which all married couples have). The slogan of their whole campaign, 'Love is love", is complete bullshit. Who's love is so fragile it can't survive without a piece of paper and a word? Marriage is a religious institution, and no religion allows gays to be married, therefore, the only logical argument for a 'yes' vote, is the tax benefit.
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REMEMBER: homosexuals aren't reproducers, they're recruiters. Protect our boys and girls and give them a safe world to live in.
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>>137056778
Australia was built on liberal values.
You should fuck off if you don't agree with australian values.
I hear sharia is pretty good for anti-semites and homophobes like you though, perhaps you might want to consider moving to a country with sharia enforced?
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>>137056668
>let men marry cows

They all turn into cows eventually anyway.
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>>137056977

Faggotry is not an Australian value you shit cunt.
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>>137056668
I care because children deserve to have a mother and a father, because there should never have been an AIDS epidemic and because sexual assault ruins lives. Homosexuality is social death and marriage is social life.
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>>137050343

blast this at the gay night clubs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-q0ALVzPg
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>>137055532
>That is also why the media claim that the only groups with who would vote no have religious reasons.
https://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-project/top-stories-august-2017/same-sex-marriage-vote

It's when Wankeed starts hassling Julie Bishop about why there isn't a driven "YES" campaign that I tune out.
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God bless the Islamic terrorist Omar Mateen who had the good graces to remove 49 disease ridden child abusing faggots from the face of the Earth.
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>>137056977
>Australia was built on liberal values.
First prime-minister literally put in the White Australia policy and abo's weren't counted as human until the lat 60's
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>>137056977
>>137057379
Also forgot homosexuality was a crime
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>>137057379
I want to go back to that time
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>>137056977
Fucking Hell kike, do you know where you are? This isn't Reddit you child-molesting Christ-killer. Australia was not built on liberal values. Not in any way, shape or form. We are not the US. Australia was built on ethnic nationalism and protectionism. This is from a speech by Alfred Deakin:
>You probably believe that a white Australia is secure. I hope it is, but it won't be secure unless a vigilant watch is kept upon proposals to tamper with it. None of a serious character have been put forward by anybody in a responsible position, but there are indications that we may have to defend the principle yet. So far as this Government is concerned it will be ready for the emergency. (Cheers) A white Australia does not by any means mean only the preservation of the complexion of the people of this country. It means the multiplying of their homes, so that we may be able to occupy, use and defend every part of our continent; it means the maintenance of conditions of life fit for white men and white women; it means equal laws and opportunities for all; it means protection against the underpaid labor of other lands; it means social justice so far as we can establish it, including just trading and the payment of fair wages. (Cheers)
>A white Australia means a civilisation whose foundations are built upon healthy lives, lived in honest toil, under circumstances which imply no degradation. Fiscally a white Australia means protection. We protect ourselves against armed aggression, why not against aggression by commercial means. We protect ourselves against undesirable colored aliens, why not against the products of the undesirable alien labor? (Cheers) A white Australia is not a surface, but it is a reasoned policy which goes down to the roots of national life, and by which the whole of our social, industrial, and political organisations is governed.
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>>137057420
I want to go back to the 1930's timeline where Oswald Mosley unites the British empire into a glorious Anglosphere self sufficient from other nations and keeps Briton,Canada,Australia,New Zealand and all parts of Africa as White

We live in a fucking shit timeline, least there's a lot worse ones though
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Gay marriage is the one thing that is defensible.
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>>137056977
We tolerate gays because we live in a civil society. Overall they serve no purpose apart from being degenerates.
If resources were limited then gays would be killed or ostracised as they cannot breed and further humanity.
Alliowing faggots to marry further legitamizes their degeneracy and pointless existence
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>>137052403
antipodean resistance, lel. They are pretty funny but not sure whether they are just neo-nazi larpers or what, still its a start.
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>>137050343
I might give a fuck if this was actually the real issue.. what you have is the Liberal & Labour party looking after their own interests. I don't think either of them really give a fuck about this issue.. they are just trying to manoeuvre to score a few points for the next election.
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>>137055642
Soo you're a Nigger?
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>Was going to abstain
>Even considering voting yes so they could finally shut the fuck up about this nonsense.
>See whiny leftists everywhere
>Definitely going to vote no

These people are fucking infuriating.
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>>137050343

i dont know if this has been said already, i havnt read the thread but its funny how people in favour of fag marriage claim 70% of australian want it as law but as soon as the government mentions a plebiscite: "oy vey plebiscite is literally hitler". maybe they arent as sure about that "70%" as they are letting on.
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>>137050343
>you use the slippery slope argument to point out bestiality/pedophilia will be next
>leftist tries saying that's a phallacy
>you point out canada legalised bestiality last year
You Win.
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I heard Tony Abbott say today that if you believe in religious freedom, free speech, and want to stop political correctness, then vote no on gay marriage. How in the fucking world does our marriage impact anyone elses freedom? What does it have to do with other people's religion? Fuck them
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>>137058606
because you will want someone to marry you that disagrees with gay people getting married
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>>137051438
>flaggots
I'm stealing this
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>>137058516

>substituting one fallacy for another


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
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>>137058606
It's because unfortunately marriage has become intertwinned with the state, as it is a religious institute, with secular tax benefits, and recognition. A civil union is the same thing, but most same-sex couples want to be called married. Meaning they'd be changing the definition of marriage, infringing on others religion, as they hold marriage as a sacred act between a man and a woman, which just so happens to have the perks of legal recognition and tax benefits when they get a piece of paper with it too.
To me, you can have your civil unions and your recognition as a de-facto couple. If it were up to me, there'd be no tax benefit of marriage, but hey, if that's what you're after too, fine.
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>>137058671
this. leftist don't just want "gay marriage", they want to force religious ceremonies to perform it form them.

but make no mistake, it's only aimed at christians. when did you see any leftist faggots walk into a mosque and start kissing?
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>>137058671
The law has explicit exemptions for religion. No priest or church anywhere has ever been coerced by a federal or state government into performing a gay wedding.
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>>137058606

The concept of marriage determines the structure of the unit in which human beings are brought into the world and raised to adulthood. Society is just the some of these units. If you change the structure of these cells so that people are raised to think that immorality is normal and we should just be mindless impulsive hedonists, then your society is going to become weak and corrupt and you will need a tyrannical police state to keep law and order because people are unable to govern themselves.

By changing the definition of marriage to allow gays to marry we are not only reinforcing the unhealthy and erroneous belief that marriage is a temporary commitment based on romantic love, but we are also confirming the belief that there is nothing morally wrong with homosexual behavior, which there is.
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>>137050343
Australia.file
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>>137058910
Because Christians are the ones preventing gays from having rights, not Muslims.
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>>137059023
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>>137051136
Wouldn't mind fucking a 14yr old.
They got this cute but developing sexy body going on.
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>>137050343
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>>137059040
yea but they're also retarded so...
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>>137058860
do you think your average normie is going to sit there and look through their pocket dictionary of latin debating terms and think "hey you know that's a fallacy too" ?
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>>137058606
First it's gay marriage, then it's shoving your gayness into EVERYTHING, and then advocating 8 year olds to take hormones and cut their dick off. You fuckers don't know when to stop.
Look at the US if you wanna see the future if you let this continue.
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>>137059023
of course , gays are executed in majority christian nations
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>>137059023

I don't just want to prevent you from having your imaginary rights, I want to have homosexual behavior removed from society completely because it is dangerous and immoral. I want to there to be organised gangs who beat up homosexuals acting out in public. I want sodomy to be a criminal offense requiring corporal punishment of prison. I want gay bars and brothels made illegal. I want police to have the power to infiltrate gathering places of homosexuals and shut them down with whatever violence is necessary.
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>>137058920
I know this isn't a church but what about the cake shop in the us the refused to make a faggot wedding cake. They wanted to force them to. It was their religious right not to bake the cake because they didn't agree with gays getting married
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>>137059230
We used to be.

>>137059136
Doesn't mean you aren't full of shit. Also, roads.

>>137059234
That's literally just your opinion.

>>137059236
Exactly, if they had registered as a private club or a religious organization they wouldn't have had to make the cake. Rather, they opened to the public knowing their state had laws against discriminating against gays. Australia already HAS such a law and has had it since 2013 so that's not really a knock on gay marriage there.
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I really hate myself sometime. I can't accept myself for who I am. Sometimes I feel it would be better if I was straight, I would be accepted and have girls, friends who like me. Yet I'm so lonely every day, no boyfriend and no friends. I'm scared to meet other gay guys because I'm so shy. My life could have been much better if I was straight. Why was I made gay. It really sucks, I wish more people would understand me and accept me. I want to have a boyfriend and friends who love me for who I am. I hate how society treats gay people. This vote is just another example of it, IMO.

I should have killed myself in high school when I first had the desire to end it.
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>>137055303
>Majority of Australians hate fags

Oh you live in a rural hick town I see...
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>>137059905
No mate, in the city, the majority of people are just nice to your face
If push comes to shove, you would find out the truth.
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>>137059701
Still not to late to kill yourself now you fag.
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>>137059701

Cry me a river, faggot.
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>>137060058
>>137060240
>>137060263

Have any of you even tried any homosexual experimentation?
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>>137060058
I wish the vote was a compulsory one.
I think it'd get a lot closer to 'No' if that were the case.
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>>137055004
Of course. But if we continually see that he is funding projects that are detrimental to society, we're going to like him less and less as a result.
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>>137060402
I thought voting was compulsory in straya?
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>>137060337
Have any of you ever tried shock therapy?
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>>137051875
They're probably concerned as new legislation is being passed that would punish them if they hurt anyone's feelings.
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>>137059701
Go see a hypnotherapist instead of crying about it like a bitch
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>>137051254
Its also where Shorten came from
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>>137059905
>t. melbourne
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Melbournite here planning on voting NO. Not all of us here in Melbourne are leftist SJW cucks.
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>>137060922
EŞEK OĞLU EŞEK SIKTIR GİT SENİN POLGBT'NAN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>137053842
The point is we do not like what he is attempting to do to our country.
You can argue he is entitled to influence a foreign nation's political direction, but we don't have to like it.
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>getting triggered by 2 fags kissing, exchanging rings and eating cake with their families
you people are a laughing stock
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>>137056856
>>137056512
gay marraige is a cover for pedophile rape of children

gay men want to be able to adopt boys from orphanages and rape them and abuse them

if you allow gay marriage then that is what they will do

this is what happens in countries that allow gay men to adopt
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>>137050343
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>>137061024
stop talking to that get up shill
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>>137061247
how can you be this retarded?
do you ever leave your house?
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>>137061033
Is that your autistic interpretation of the institution of marriage?
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>>137061033
It isn't that, its a referendum on the power of the church for some people. If the church cannot influence the state enough to mandate discrimination against some groups, how can they claim their God is all powerful? Makes their church appear weak and foolish for being impotent in the wake of perceived evil.

Beyond the metaphorical part this is largely old people who are past their prime and feel like they are losing control of their society in many ways, and shouldn't they at least be able to control what is 5% of the population only.

If only people under 50 could vote on this there would be no issue, no debate.
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>>137050343
Can we speak English?
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>>137055710

Save us Chatswood! Save us Lakemba! You are our last great hope!
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>>137061450
and these retards are bitching that islam is pushing for theocracy in australia
really activates the almonds
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Voting no just for the lulz.

This is a vote for bullshit PC culture.
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>>137051993
Hi JIDF, still sniffing for sheks?
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>>137060686
Only for real votes, like elections or constitutional referendums. This isn't even real vote; it's just a thing the govment is doing
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If faggot marriage is popular - and I'm not saying it's not; I wouldn't be surprised if this fucking country actually votes yes - why are the pro-faggot side so scared of a vote?
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>>137061746
Cause if they lose then they know they are a bunch of faggots.
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>>137061578
I don't think Islam has enough power to impose a theocracy if Christians outnumber them heavily and are unable to. That said, I am not suspicious of theistic people, just those who want to use theism to impose moral law on others.
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Exactly. If they really think people want this bullshit, then why not push for a binding vote?

The faggots just winge and make more demands. Cunts should all neck up.
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>>137061450

I can convince many atheists that homosexual behaviour is undesirable in purely rational/natural terms. Anyone with right reason can understands that love that is pure and not based on sodomy will benefit children and families most and thus ought to be encouraged and the alternative discouraged in order to create a society of tough and virtuous people.
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>>137052126
kys retarded tosser sad excuse of an emu failed aborted dropkick.

I bet you're comfortable living in an oppressive regime too given the litus questions people are questioning you.

>REEEEEEEEEE I DON'T LIKE THAT

expecting this.
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>>137061746

This is about a basic human right and the right wing are fighting against it, just the same as they did for a womans right to vote, indigenous rights, hell all the way back to allowing anyone any rights except, rich white land owners in England. Different right, different century, same tune.
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>>137062038
litmus*
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>>137057616

>A

>Fucking

>Leaf
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>>137062046
>rich white land owners in England. Different right, different century, same tune.
>australians unironically believe this with no grounds in reality and fact
can't make this up
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>>137062046

'Human rights' is just a buzzword for whatever PC kike bullshit is being pushed next. I believe in Natural Rights from the Natural Law. The purpose of sexuality is to unify a man and woman so they can start a family. There is no natural law for homosexuality because it is an abuse of sexuality. Homosexuality is not the other side of the coin of sexuality. It is an instantiation of broken sexuality, which is why it is so associated with drug abuse, mental illness and pedophilia/pederasty as well as extreme promiscuity and BDSM play.
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>>137057867

Libs need to get it through before the election to head off labor/greens attempts to capitalise it.

Labor/greens can't be blatantly against it, so they need to try and torpedo the vote itself while looking like they're still pro- the issue.
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>>137051759
>Justice cannot be stopped.
It's not justice. It's mental retardation. Go do a backflip off and overpass.
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>>137061971
You may be persuasive but an increasing majority of your country, especially the younger people, are convinced otherwise.

Gays are going to have kids with civil unions or marriage. The point is just whether those kids are bastards and life is harder for their parents to get official documents, divorce proceedings, and inheritances. Nobody doubts that you can dick down sexual minorities they are saying you shouldn't have that power over a vulnerable minority group. Every poll in the last ten years indicates majority support for gay marriage in AU.

>>137062046
Good point. I never relate this as far back only property owners voting but even pol finds that distasteful mostly.
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>>137062198
People in power don't willingly relinquish it without a fight. That is valid whether you see yourself currently in power or not.
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>>137061971
>Reeeee stop liking what i dont like!
I think any kind of sodomy is fucking disgusting but i'm not some little bitch that feels the need to dictate what society can and can't do.
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>>137062329
But labor is for it just only for it under a government they run.
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>>137050343
Shove your control and conformity up your ass. I'm voting yes because there's nothing wrong with gays having the same legal rights to marry each other as straight people do. Plus it'll piss the Muslims off. Anything that makes Muslims not want to live here is a good thing.
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>>137051904
>Mfw my generation will either be nazis or gays (Gen Z).
Or both.
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>>137062260

>promiscuity is a problem (according to you)
>we ask for marriage rights
>NO FUCK YOU

Riiiight..
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>>137062260
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>>137062513
And once marriage is legalized you guys can focus on immigration reform. Does the liberal party support immigration reform even?
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>>137062533

Gays don't want marriage, they want weddings. Did you know that most homosexual men with HIV or AIDS are in long term monogamous relationships? That's because these relationships aren't as "monogamous" and they let on.
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>>137062513
Disgusting sodomite filth
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>>137062486

When your own leaders who were chosen by the people are rubbishing your life in front of everyone, when you've got some backwards bible basher telling you you're unnatural then yes suicide is a very real possibility. A bully is a bully and all you voting no on a issue that doesn't even matter to you are bullies. Small minded ones at that. This is not about you. This is about your friends, your neighbours, your children who might be afraid to tell you their true sexual preference cause they have a parent who's beliefs come from the past. Vote yes and you'll never hear about gay marriage again. Surely allowing it to happen will be better than hearing about it until Labor get voted in.
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>>137058907
>>137058606


Just remember also that instead of calling for the proper separation of church and state, and dismantling a compromised institution, you are instead co-opting yourselves into said institution.
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>>137062634
Sodomites abominations like you and your handlers are the primary supporters of muslim immigration and open borders
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>>137062652
Are you serious? Not even memeing, I'm surprised by all the pro-gay sentiment here vs say when Germany adopted it they seemed much more acrimonious towards it.
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>>137062462
yes but here in niger they taught use this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/britain_wwone/overview_britain_ww1_01.shtml

>In 1918 it became a democracy, with the introduction of universal adult male suffrage and votes for women aged over 30.

It took them almost 200 years for british to have 'fair voting process'. same incident with america.
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>>137062465

How society ought to be structured is given by the moral law. The moral law is encoded in reality. You cannot fight reality. Go ahead, just do whatever you feel like whenever you desire. Notice the nice little slice of hell you create for yourself.
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>>137062722
I have nothing to do with those pro-Islam folks.

That's more an issue of women, and I am a man.
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>>137062465
>faggots will literally go to prison if their brand of marriage isn't recognised
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i was planning to abstain because i don't care about fags but you autistic christcucks have convinced me to vote yes
it's nice to know you'll be completely ass-blasted when they win
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>>137056668
>Bro, like why should i care about the breakdown of the moral fabric of the society i live in? I mean, it doesn't affect me after all xD
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>>137062778
Every time the sodomite tries to distract attention towards women. You are a reprobate mind and an abomination
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>>137062792

lol, good goy.
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>>137062735

Have a look at any Facebook page about this issue, even news article comment sections and you will see the absolute vile rubbish coming from the right.
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>>137050343

Why are you even having a referendum on this in the first place? Just let them get married ffs
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I'm voting no but don't give a fuck what happens. I just want to try and trigger a few Melbourne blue haired cunts.
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>>137060951

>Melbourne was a mistake
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Fucking poofters, every single one of them
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>>137062792
Its not about Christianity you stupid fuck
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>>137050343

We can't. You could destroy all of the postal votes marked "Yes", but come Labor's turn in office, they're going to pass this through.

It's basically a matter of time. A mandatory plebiscite coming back with a "No" would at least allow us to say;

>The people did not want this rancid shit, it was forced on us

So we could oppose progressive propaganda and lies when, down the road, they talk about how "everyone loves faggots".

But the postal vote is going to come back "Yes" because the only people who give a shit enough to vote will be "Yes" voters.

This is a battle the Jews will win. Even California voted against Gay Marriage, and yet the U.S. now weds faggots thanks to the Supreme Court.
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Anyone keen to go to brothel tonight? bris or GC, my shout.
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>>137062908
>Just let them get married ffs

Yeah who cares about the debasement and subversion of civilization sustaining institutions!!!! Upvoted!!!!
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>>137051254

Dirt already has been dug up on them. They received money from known criminal organizations and funneled it offshore to Soros groups.

You can't touch them because they're protected by Labor.

That's life.
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>>137062866
Not everyone is as pious as you, sorry. I voted Trump. Want more Republican votes from gays? Talk more about immigration and the economy and less about restricting our rights. I think Trump did a good job of that.

>>137062892
I don't use goybook.

I do think opposition to this is mainly older people 50+.
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>>137062757
>The moral law is encoded in reality.
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>>137063048
I don't care if someone's gay, I just don't understand why so many gay people have to act like faggots about it
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>>137063032
Who goes to a brothel at 9 am?
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>>137063048

>hurr durr gays are promiscuous and lack family values
>hurr durr no they can't get married cos that would mean i wuz wrong derp

t. (You)
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>>137063182
You mean be openly gay?
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>>137061450

That's where you're wrong kiddo. We WANT separation of church and state. That's why we've been trying to suggest for years that state civil unions be separated off from religious marriages, and economic benefits of marriage be curtailed, or moved over to guardian status, rather than marriage status.

But every time we argue about how we are uncomfortable about how closely wedded church and state are on this issue, you get retards crying to the press about how "hurrr they'd rather destroy marriage than let others have it hurrrrr."
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>>137051721

It's not a conspiracy theory.

Get Up is the largest activist group promoting Faggot Marriage.

Get Up is funded by George Soros.

What part is the conspiracy?
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>>137063211
Yeah I never get that part of it. If you want gays to be less promiscuous surely allowing us to marry and have kids would do that at least a little bit.
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>>137063182
>Why do effeminate promiscuous reprobate sodomites act like effeminate promiscuous reprobate sodomites?

Your problem is that you have been brainwashed to think that sodomites are just normal humans who just happen to be attracted to people of the same sex
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>>137062652

Homosexuals who kill themselves are doing every innocent person in society a huge favor. There is no such thing as "gays". There people who choose to perform acts of sexual depravity with their genitals. If they believe that these actions are the highest defining attributes of their being, then they have totally surrendered their humanity and they should be put down like the dogs they are.
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>>137057242
http://picosong.com/ZGZB/
He turned fruits into vegetables.
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>>137063290
>have kids
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>>137052126

He's pointing out that Soros funds numerous anti Western organizations. He funds Get Up. The implication is that Get Up is anti-Western.

Which needn't be implied, since they openly are.

I don't think you know what the term "conspiracy theory" means. Stop using it. You look dumb as fuck.
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>>137063211
Sodomites make a mockery of marriage.

Also 50% of married sodomites are in an "open marriage" which means they fuck other people with the knowledge of their buttbuddy
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>>137053014

>RRRRREEEEEEEE PEOPLE DON'T SHARE MY OPINIONS

Cry about it more.
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>>137063223
No, if you are a fully rounded human being, who has decent taste in music, politics, sport, movies, I can have a conversation with you and find I agree with you on some things, disagree with you on other things, etc., then I don't care which adult you have consenting sex with. Some homos are like this. Most aren't.
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>>137063243
But how is that NOT destroying or at least restricting marriage so that others can't have it? Its like if I can't have it nobody can type of attitude, no? No Christians were proposing your idea AFAIK before gays said they wanted marriage to, it came about as a reaction to that idea so people (correctly) realize you are being disingenuous.

That said, there are some churches who will wed gays.
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>>137050647
This is the parliamentary democracy is FUCKED. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Issues like gay "marriage" need to be done decisively and the parliamentary democracy is too slow for it to not get ugly, it is the same for the issue of war.
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>>137063323
Yeah wow one guy dressed inappropriately and a bunch in normal pants/shorts and shirts.

>>137063374
Adopt or hire a surrogate.
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>>137063323
I've seen plenty of women wearing the exact same outfit while walking down the street.
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>>137063559
It isn't a democracy, it is a Republic and it is trash to say, well this issue is too awkward, we will wash our hands clean of this. Does Turnbull actually think he stands a chance at reelection in 2019? Maybe if the postal vote is yes, but this seems like a big fuck up.
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>>137058606

Because just like in the U.S. faggots will then make it a law for you to service their fetish in your churches (though not mosques) and businesses.

Bake. That. Cake.
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>>137050343
Gays are degenerate as fuck but I honestly couldn't give a fuck who the state lets them marry.
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>>137059023

Show me a single majority Muslim country with legalized gay marriage.

I'll wait.
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>>137063420

>Sodomites make a mockery of marriage.

Surely, since you are are logical and smart man, you will agree that because some women are sluts that straight people shouldn't be allowed marry. Right?

>Also 50% of married sodomites are in an "open marriage" which means they fuck other people with the knowledge of their buttbuddy

Surely, as a logical and smart man, you will agree that because some straight couples cheat, have affairs, swing or have other forms of routine infedility or "open marriages", straight people shouldn't be allowed marry. Right?

Let them marry. It harms no one.
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Not only are sodomites a huge burden on society because of their disease ridden deathstyle and the fact that they initiate confused boys all the time into a life of defilement and death, they are also responsible for the sex abuse scandal in the Catholic Church. All these child molesting priests were homosexual men who were attracted to young post-pubescent boys. The media pretend that this was 'pedophilia' in order to hide the truth that the vast majority of the perpetrators were same-sex attracted men. It would be more accurate to label the sex abuse crisis in the Catholic Church a pederasty crisis or a crisis of homosexual ephebophilia (sexual attraction to teenagers).
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>>137063625
WTF I HATE WOMEN AND LOVE ASSHOLES NOW!!!
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>>137061746

Because they know a binding, compulsory vote will come back "No". It failed in fucking California and France of all places.

They want their agenda fulfilled, it's not about what's fair or democratic, it's about getting your way.

Tactically they're doing the right thing.
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>>137063646
We're not a republic, fuck off!
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>>137050343
Bump
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>>137063625
Notice the pics from pride to demonstrate that gays are too sexual are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, men, even the kids that twerk kid the kid kissing his dad, and Lactatia the drag queen, males. I have never ever seen a picture critical of gay pride on here that primarily features women in what is considered inappropriate dress.

>>137063655
You already HAVE that law since 2013.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sexual-orientation-sex-gender-identity/projects/new-protection
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>>137063690
>Marriage as an institution is in crisis so just ruin it more by allowing reprobate disease ridden vile sodomites partake in it

What kind of logic is that?
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>>137062046

>Society actively participating in my sexual fetishes is a basic human right

Nope.

>Womans right to vote

Mistake

>Indigenous rights

Shouldn't exist

>allowing anyone any rights except, rich white land owners

Voting should be confined to white male land owners who are eligible for the draft or previously were.
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>>137063782
Sorry, constitutional monarchy officially but certainly governed much like a Republic.
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>>137059701
Have you tryed not watching gay porn
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>>137063850
That gays are more likely to be monogamous and less likely to spread disease when allowed to marry and raise children (adopted or surrogate) in the context of those marriages.
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>>137062513

>Destroying White Western Civilization will piss Muslims off

No it won't. It's what they want.

They won't allow homosexuals to marry in their mosques and will still exile or acid attack any homosexuals in their communities. It won't affect them personally at all.
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>>137062634

The same people who support gay marriage, including the vast majority of homosexuals, only support one kind of immigration reform;

Opening the flood gates to South East Asians, Sub-Saharan Africans and Muslims from all corners of the globe.
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>>137063850

>hurr durr marriage is in crisis

Polygyny, concubinage, bastard children never existed for thousands of years before the gays wanted to marry, got it.

Why do you hate facts and logic?
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>>137063792

Homosexuality is not a valid identity entailing rights protection. A homosexual is a person who chooses to perform acts of sexual depravity. Homosexuals can choose not to do this and can live happy lives as celibates or seek therapy and become married to the opposite sex. People such as racial minorities cannot choose the colour of their skin. It is absurd to define membership to a protected minority group on the basis of a particular class of sexual fetishes a person experiences.
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>>137055719
u cant even vote yet you moron
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>>137063942
>and raise children

Bad idea. Allowing kids especially young boys anywhere near sodomites is suicidal
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>>137062513
You're retarded
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>>137063211

Gays by definition can't have family values.

They can't form families. They're just mentally ill people turning a fetish into a lifestyle.
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>>137063900
I thought you were burgerposting. Thing is it's a postal vote, not compulsory. So it's really up in the air with regards to turnout.
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>>137050343
Family and I are voting NO

and a few friends
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>>137064150
>Gays by definition can't have family values.
>by definition
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Listen to Pastor Stephen Anderson lay out the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVH1tWwIm0
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i was planning to abstain because i don't care about fags but you autistic christcucks have convinced me to vote yes
it's nice to know you'll be completely ass-blasted when they winn
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>>137050343
Say no to pedophile rights
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>>137063792

We don't have that law since faggots can't get married durp.

This is another attempt to erode our rights just a little bit further to match the U.S. or Canadian standards.

And just as predicted, and as we've seen in those countries, they will then next slide down to next obvious degenerate fetish, transvestite rights.

We will be asked to legally recognize crossdressing queers as the gender of their imagination.

And, like Canada legalizing beastiality and child sexual fetishes, we'll eventually be asked to agree to pedophile rights.

White people that is. Not brown Muslims. They don't have to worry about that.
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>>137063420
>Berkowitz
Jewish filth.
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>>137064304
Have a pity (You) you sad little queer
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>>137064417
It's literally about pedo rights and they want to do it so they can sell pedo porn. Basically imagine pedophillia, now add capitalism.

That's what these nutcases want, they want to unleash capitalism on the children.
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>>137064304
Rude Anon.
I'm not a christcuck and I like Society.
Tolerance is a meme.
Why are you bullying me Anon ;-; .
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>>137063942

This is precisely why we're opposed to Gay Marriage.

Normalizing and legalizing allowing faggots to adopt and raise children is a complete debasement of society.

Remember when we were told they just wanted to have the right to fuck their boyfriends in the ass in the privacy of their own home?

They keep asking for more and more, expecting to be treated like normal people, right down to raising children.

They won't stop pushing until they're allowed to sodomize kids openly.
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>>137064150

>Gays by definition can't have family values.

Source?

>They can't form families. They're just mentally ill people turning a fetish into a lifestyle.

Can infertile straight people have family values? What about post-menopausal women? Does your granny have family values?

What about lesbians who get pregnant and have children? Do they have family values?

Think about the point you're making before you post nonsense, Bruce.
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>>137064236

Right.

A family requires procreation.

Faggots can't procreate.

Are you retarded?
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I've found out that any envelope that is sent in containing glitter will be immediately discounted. In that case, we need to get cracking on memes to get fags to put glitter in and on their envelopes.
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>>137064594
>what is adoption
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>>137063942
There hasn't even been enough time elasped since gay "marriage" passed anywhere in the west for this to be studied
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>>137064304

Sure you were faggot.

>Christ cucks

Yeah, kowtowing to Marxist Islam loving faggots is surely gonna teach those "christ cucks" a good lesson, Mohammed.
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>>137050343
Good luck cunts
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>>137064417
Ant rights?

If you don't know how to fuck with yes voters in your life low key, convince them to put glitter in the return as a joke.
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>>137063473

Many have been arguing it for much longer, it's only been getting press because it's now a related argument. But no, the point is we want State based unions (which you can call whatever, btw) to grant all the same legal and economic privileges. We would just prefer religious marriage be separated out as something that churches do, but isn't recognised by the state, and then we also sign the same paperwork for the state civil union. That way, as far as legal and economic rights are concerned, everything is identical. Whilst also making a clear delineation, so that we don't see the same thing in Canada where churches were being forced to abide SSM against their will. Everybody gets what they want. unless, of course, what you *actually* want is to mess with religious freedoms and not be content with having your own, which many are wary of.
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>>137064594

So you're in favour of banning infertile heterosexuals from marriage? Got it.
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i was planning to abstain because i don't care about fags but you autistic christcucks have convinced me to vote yes
it's nice to know you'll be completely ass-blasted when they are successful
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>>137064632

An imitation family?

I hate to hurt your fee fees, but adopting a kid doesn't make them anymore your kid than putting on a dress makes you a woman.
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>>137064728
Who cares what you think anyway Fuckfeatures??
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>>137064735
Adopting a child is an act of charity, good for the middle aged with adult children and other demographics. Certainly not gays though, probably should rule out Jews too.
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>>137064707

Not in favor of it, but it seems utterly redundant.

But they can still form a decent enough imitation family via adoption.

They can pretend to be normal parents and a normal family.

What is the point of allowing mentally ill perverts to form a pretend family? So they can raise warped children?

It's not only pointless, but unlike heterosexual, non reproductive marriage, it's actually harmful, because it normalizes treating repulsive mentally ill freaks as normal, and encourages the acceptance of further and further socially damaging behavior, like so-called "transgederism"

You can yell slippery slope all you want, but it wasn't us normies who slapped the "T" onto "LGBT".
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>>137064728
S-stop reposting this.
It's bullying.
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>>137059905
I've lived in SA and Queensland and i can back him up with this
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>>137064942
>What is SSA
>>
Most marriages crash and burn horribly leaving crippling emotional and economic scars anyway. Why not let them shoot themselves in the foot?
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>>137064728
mate we can see your id and that you have posted this multiple times in this thread. do better next time
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>>137065401
i was planning to abstain because i don't care about fags but you autistic christcucks have convinced me to vote yes
it's nice to know you'll be completely ass-blasted when they are wins
>>
>>137065108
His name is Lactatia for fucks sake. I hope that's not his degenerate nickname
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immigration is the most important vote Hanson
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>>137052365
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>>137064126
Thanks to your high quality anecdotal evidence.

>>137064150
We can adopt kids or hire surrogates. How many times do I have to say that? It is so disingenuous to keep claiming that when you know that many gay people do raise kids.

>>137064188
IIRC even a compulsory vote wouldn't have been binding.

>>137064304
Thanks!

>>137064431
You have the law that gays cannot be discriminated against by sexual orientation which the US doesn't have.

>>137064546
And its debasement to let us raise kids without the protection of marriage. You cannot win.

>muh pedophilia slippery slope

Doesn't this get tiring?

>>137064636
That's probably the only decent argument but most of the research so far is in favor of gays as parents and compares them favorably to straight parents.

>>137064942
Someone was saying they married an American who was the birth mother of their child and they had trouble getting healthcare and a passport for the child. Ceremonial statuses like civil unions are a much bigger pain in the ass to deal with legally.
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>>137055004
A foreign entity meddling with a sovereign nation is shit not matter if it was China, Israel, Russia or the UN.
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>>137055303
You maybe surprised at the amount of gays who hate being brought in as a political football and don't really want it. They are out there but tend not to speak up for the same reason no voters don't.
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