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If you were Hitler, what would you have done differently?

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If you were Hitler, what would you have done differently?
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ally with the jews
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>>136916935
And genocide the germans
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>>136916832

Set up high speed rail across all of Europe before getting too ambitious with more lofty political goals.
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>>136916832
continued painting
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>Not invade russia
>Conscript jewish majority instead of kill them
>Sic SS and gestapo hit squads on high ranking, pro-zionist jews and bankers within Germany and abroad
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Not attack the Belgium because then England would not have attacked
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>>136916832
tell (((Mussolini))) not to invade the fucking greeks
prioritize PzKpfw V production instead of """wunderwaffe"""
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>(((too few)))
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Gassed 6mil.
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>>136916832
Stay inside Germany.
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>>136916832
Kill every anglo at dunkirk and invaded England imediately.
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Gas the kikes for real
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>>136916935

FPBP ally with Jews develop nukes build more uboats early with modular manufacturing don't declare Slavs subhuman and use them to wage war against the communists (after taking Suez and Gibraltar).
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Gassed the kikes
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>>136917166
>commie flag
I was about to tell you that you are retatrded, but the flag makes a better job at that then me.
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Hold out until the nuke is developed then obliterate ruskies and brits
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>>136916832
Nothing. Hitler's actions were amazing. The speed at which it all went down was amazing too.
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>>136916832
kill 6 million jews
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>>136916832

Pushed for nuclear weapon development in secret before the war started.

Nuke for Moscow, Nuke for London and a Nuke for New York and we all now would be living on a Nazi Earth.
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>>136916832
Not build retarded shit and not interfere with my generals and not engage the Soviet Union in late June. I would have just sat pretty I'm Europe from 1940 onwards holding France, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, and Poland hostage while bombing the shit out of UK. Also dont ally Japan.
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enslave the jews
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>>136917303
>>136917358
>>136917436
>>136917491
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>>136916832
I'd rather be Polish leader at the time and ally with Hitler
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>>136916832
I would have tried to ally myself with the US. Then I could save both the US and Germany from degeneracy.
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>>136916832
actually put Japan to use and got Franco on board
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>>136916832

Its funny how they make his eyes always seem dark brown in these pictures. Hitler had hypnotising blue eyes.

I wouldnt have been so agressive in diplomacy, just got my people out of the dangerzone in danzig and left. Czechoslowaky didnt need to be annexed. And I would have germany prepared for a real war and not just for looking like a good war machine, so I can get better deals. The wehrmacht wasnt ready when we split poland with russia.

Also in war he should have just talked to the people and motivating them, that was his strengh, but everytbing else should have been decided by his generals. Ideology is very bad in warfare, except for motivation.

Considering his poor upcoming and no birthright nor education, you have to admire him still. Many mistakes wich cost the world all and plunged us even further into jewish domination, but I think he tried and ironically the passion and fierce love for germany was what made him rise to power was also what doomed him further down the road.

You can also see the pain of loosing his mother early in his eyes. I think he needed to compensate. It was all about having people you love. And he sacrificed everything for it. Poor Hitler.
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>>136916832
Not invade the Soviet Union, at least not in 1941.hell, they can have their half of Poland for all I Fucking care. I'd then focus on taking over England and valuable areas of Africa and the middle east and get a steady supply of materials before I move on to invading other countries. Also gas 7 million kikes.
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>>136916832
We do know for a fact that EU was/is the path to Europe united under Germany.
So I guess just skip the "genocide" part and do the EU thing right away under the banner of protection from the commies.
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>>136916832
I would have focused on taking Africa, and deal with the nigger once and for all.
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>>136916832
Ensure that Axis forces in Stalingrad are resupplied, and curb unnecessary troop movements between West and East. If Germany had won Stalingrad, it would have won the war.
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>>136916935
One does not simply ally with the Jews. People have tried this and have gotten fucked over in the end. It's kind of their thing anon.
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I wouldn't poison my dog.
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>>136916832
Build up crazy technology like the V2 before the war, then obliterate the UK and Moscow.
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>>136916832
Aside from delaying Operation Barbarossa by helping the Italians invade Greece (fucking WHY), not much. I don't have any pretenses of being cleverer than the Führer.
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kill Joseph Goebbels and myself

fucking child-murdering piece of shit
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>>136916935

>ally with the jews

yeah I bet they would spare the good goyim
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>>136917161
This. Hitler was great but he fucked up.
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>>136916832
Grown a bigger mustache
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>>136916832
win
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>>136916832

>Focus my jew hatred towards key jews that would start clans that would infect and eventually control the USA in the future
>Target/assassinate them with covert operations while publicly advocating for peace between nations while still keeping my own nation's well being in mind FIRST
>Focus on technological advances and never share any significant breakthroughs
>Keep a close eye on potential defectors and spies
>Create a unit dedicated entirely to eliminating jewish elite, again, in covert operations meant to never be discovered
>Have children, slowly train and teach them to my own way of thinking, while being completely reasonable so as to not seem insane, don't want the kids to turn into liberals
>Target other races, such as violent blacks, but promote the safety and tolerance of non-violent intelligent blacks
>This helps build up good public opinion as well, and all around the world

Hitler could have been the best thing to ever happen to planet Earth and he fucked it all up because he got just a bit too angry for his own good and surrounded himself with actual psychopaths.

He could've shaped the future for this planet, to be a good one full of amazing people. But no, we get the shit we live in every day instead.
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>>136920044
shut up you emo fucking cuck faggot, magda killing the kids was better than the inevitable rape and torture they would of endured from the reds. It was a tough and honorable thing to do.
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>>136917161
>Not invade Russia
Russia was planning to attack Germany while she was preoccupied with England.
>Conscript Jewish majority
>Jewish majority
What? And there were actually over 300 000 half Jews, quarter Jews and some actual Jews that were actually quite high ranking in some cases
>Sic SS and Gestapo on bankers
Easier said then done when most of these people are in the UK and USA. Occupying a continent and keeping resistance and communist spy rings down is hard enough
>>136917204
>Tell Mussolini not to invade the Greeks
It probably never occurred to Hitler that Mussolini would do something so random, especially when the North African campaign wasn't going well either.
>>136917350
I'd say capture the Englishmen at Dunkirk, that way they can be used as a bargaining chip. Invading England is impossible though.
>>136918160
>Don't annex Czechs
Czechs weren't annexed. The Czech leader Hacha asked for Germans to march into Prague. His political aide testified that Hitler did not coerce him.
>>136918660
Better to do that then allow the Soviets to eat her
>>136920044
Better for them to die than have to live through the humiliation of what the Soviets would have undoubtedly done to them if they were found alive
>>136918779
>Help Italian invade Greece
He had to because Commonwealth troops began to land in Greece and were a threat to the Romanian oil fields (They could use Greece as an airfield) Also Mussolini threatened to leave the Axis should Hitler not aid him.
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>>136920515

>it's the fault of the man who tried and not the fault of the actual bad guys
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>>136920515
Hitler isn't a ninja. If all these important Jews started dying around the world at similar times I 'think' it would be pretty obvious who was doing it.
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>>136916832
It's: " If you HAD BEEN Hitler, what would you have done." Learn your grammar USA, ffs.
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>>136920809
but that's wrong you slavnigger
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>>136920809
>>136921003
I think both sentences are grammatically correct
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>>136920652
By jewish majority I mean the able bodied fighting men of the 6 million.

Even without taking morality into account, it just seems like a waste to kill all of those people when you could use them to bolster your ranks instead.

But then I'm not really a nazi, so what do I know.

>most of these bankers were in the UK and USA
Kinda figured that. There were spy rings in those countries, and an undertaking of that sort would require quite a detachment of HUMINT and hitmen, but It would be more than worth it in the long run.
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>>136916935
/thread
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>>136916935
kek, a true German
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>>136921291
this chart is idiot tier
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>>136921216
The vast majority of those six million Jews (Not that it was actually six million) were not even from Germany but from Poland and the USSR. The point of them not being included was that they were thought to be subversive and communist sympathizers which is understandable when looking at Jewish involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution, the German Revolution and civil war in 1919 and other communist uprisings in Hungary and Austria. It's why they were detained in first place. Much like the Japanese, German and Italian Americans were detained (This happened in Australia too I might add) for threat of being spies or sympathizers with their ancestral homelands.
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>>136921291

kek
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>>136921291
>That enlightened stage though
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>>136921216
LMFAO!
>Hey, you know those crafty and treasonous people that sold out our country during ww1? Let's make them fight for us and hope they don't divulge military secrets!
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>>136916832
quietly assassinated wallis simpson and set edward up with a german girl
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>>136916935
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>>136916832

actually be aryan..
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Won.
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>>136921291
>mind control towers
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>>136921642
I think the issue was less with her being American than with her not being of a noble class. Hitler would have had to put up a real classy German girl. And the monarchy was gone so.... I don't know, maybe a former princess of one of the German states would do?
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>>136916832
Get Poland and Finland to join the Anti-Comintern Pact.
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Don't launch war on the soviets. Make them your ally and win the war
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>>136921775

>reddit
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>>136916832

>>136918702
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>>136921842
The offer for Poland to join the Anti-Comintern Pact was extended as well as promising Poland parts of the Ukraine that it desired but couldn't get because of the peace from the Polish Soviet War. Poland rejected Hitler's offer like all the others, they had their eggs in the allied basket. Finland did join the Pact I think. It just didn't join the Axis officially.
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Redpill the world with memes.
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Finsih off UK before starting war with russia.
Cut idiocy called V1 and V2, terror bombing did jack shit and they ate important resources.
Outright kill Goering (fucking disgrace for luftwaffe)
Acctualy listen to my GOOD commanding officer not relying on coprals lack of tactical sense.

Also stock up good for Russia.
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>>136916935
Kek
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>>136917700
This
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>>136921073
>>136921003
Hitler is dead. There's no "if you were Hitler".
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>>136917700
Acctualy Hitler did want to ally with Pilsudzki, but he died.

Fun fact in one HOI4 game I literaly went full nazi with Poland, snatched all possible allies for Germans , cucked them and annexed.
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>>136916832
I would have stuck with the no mustache look. He looks much better without it.
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>>136922008
>Finish off UK before Russia
Russia was planning to strike first. Read Icebreaker by Victor Suvorov. Had Hitler waited any longer than the Soviets war machine would have been too powerful to defeat.
>Kill Goering
I don't know about killing but definitely demote him from being head of the Luftwaffe. He really was quite incompetent and cost Hitler a lot of important battles.
>Actually listen to commanding officers.
This is a meme. Hitler could be stubborn at times but he actually did listen to his generals a lot. However the information he got was often wrong. Had it been correct than a lot of his plans would have actually worked. His generals mostly liked to blame their failures and crimes on him to escape the rope of Nuremberg. And I wouldn't blame Hitler for being a bit overconfident. A lot of his ideas in the Western front and initial stages of Operation Barbarossa were actually quite fruitful even for a corporal.
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>>136916832
>making high priority on genocide anglos in dunkirk without any mercy before they retreat so that chuckcuck will have less chance to win election and based Halifax becomes minister so he would be more wanting for peace talks.
>convince Mussolini not to attack Greece
>cut all wunderwaffe spending and try to enhance current equipment
>make kriegsmarine on Bismarck be extremely more careful after sinking HMS Hood
>give more equipment to Rommel so he would reach Suez and block anglo cucks
>try to LIBERATE slavs from soviets and make much more occupied voluntiery division early
>not interfere in great generals plan maneuvering
>actually try to fucking kill kikes this time or massively deport them into the sea ,let their precious Jehovah decide their chosen fate in sea.
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>>136922290
Why though. The mustache was iconic, it differentiated him other leaders. He once said 'if my facial hairstyle was not popular before, it will be now because I am the one wearing it'
>>136922154
I guess you're right about that
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>>136921841
i think it was because the head of the church of england couldn't marry a divorcee.
but yeah, someone like that
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>>136917166
Wrong war
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>>136916935
They already have Merkel
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>>136918612
Wrong. The U.S. had already started building the Bomb. Would have had it in 1945 regardless.
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>>136922154
wrong
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>>136922369
>Based Halifax
No. Halifax was as much a warhawk as Churchill.
>Genocide Anglos
Better to keep them alive but captured so you can not only ingratiate yourself to Britain but also use them as a bargaining chip in peace negotiations
>Convince Mussolini not to attack Greece
Mussolini didn't tell him what he was planning to do with Greece. Hitler couldn't tell him not to do it if he didn't know what he was going to do in the first place
>Cut Wunderwaffe spending
Yeah, maybe leave it till after the war is over
>Give more equipment to Rommel
That equipment had to be prioritized to the Eastern front. But I agree that Rommel should have been given more than he had
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>>136916832
I would not have invaded other countries, just get rid of the jews and focus on Germany becoming a superpower instead.
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>>136916832
Ok where the fuck's his moustache?
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>>136922646
To some he's alive, okay.
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>>136922369
>genocide anglos

this guy is right
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>>136922459
>Why though. The mustache was iconic, it differentiated him other leaders. He once said 'if my facial hairstyle was not popular before, it will be now because I am the one wearing it'

whelp; thats one thing baby hitler was wrong about...
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>>136916832
No. I would keep the mustache.
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>>136922646
> stubborn even when proven wrong.
> no counter argument.

Never change 'stralia.
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>>136916832
He looks so damn different without the mustache

Who could guess that one thing could change ones appearance so much
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>>136922704
Hitler's political credibility came from protecting Germans, especially those in other lands. If Hitler had just routinely ignored the pleas of the Germans in Danzig and Poland then how could he claim to be the leader of a Germany while ignoring the suffering of his people in lands that had previously been a part of his country? In any case, all German documents will confirm the view that the Germans felt that it was absolutely necessary that they break free of the ring of powers encircling them since 1919 (The Allies and the Little Entente and such) Poland was the last Eastern European nation aside from the USSR that surrounded Germany. Once Germany took out Poland, the ring was broken.
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>>136922832
>proven wrong
had been is wrong. this is literally year 2 English, anon.
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Shave the Stache.
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>>136918160
>that pic
wake me up
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>>136922695
>No. Halifax was as much a warhawk as Churchill.
True but he was less hesitant about peace talks after failure in France and Norway
>Better to keep them alive but captured so you can not only ingratiate yourself to Britain but also use them as a bargaining chip in peace negotiations
Don't really care what happens to those poor lads, but it would be high priority to not let them escape no matter what
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>Not invade Russia
>make sure country's entire economy is geared towards total war output from 1939
>Invade Egypt as soon as possible from Libya and seize Suez Canal, as early as 1940
>push Spain and Turkey to join Axis side
>use Spain to seize Gibraltar from the British, locking off the British from the Med Sea.
>support uprising in Iraq, and use it as your source of oil, transport overland through Turkey
>research long range strategic bomber
>bomb the shit out of British industry and ports, instead of suburban London
>instead of experimenting with huge tanks, focus on a few good designs like the Panther and make sure they have adequate testing and training before sending them out on the field
>once you've got Middle East oil and Mediterranean secured, the British pretty much can't touch you.
>spend 5 years building up Kriegsmarine using all of Europe's resources.
>research nuclear weapons
>by 1950 your war machine is set and you can invade England with nukes and put a puppet government in place
>wait until death of Stalin in 1953
>make anti-soviet treaty with Americans
>carry out huge invasion of Soviet Union in 1955 using a pan-European army with a few nukes
>Hold line from Leningrad to Baku, or push the way to the Urals don't launch more offensives and let the Spviets bleed themselves dry until they agree to armistice
>by 1960, undisputed master of Europe
>US is too isolated to intervene and topple you
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>>136916832
Not been so clearly related to the Bush family.
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Actually fund my nuclear bomb project and try to get it done during the war not as a side project curiosity for after the war like hitler actually did because he thought the nuclear bomb couldn't be achieved in that short span of time

Put a nuclear bomb on a V2 and you have a nuclear missile before anyone else even thought of them
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>>136922290
>>136922459
Honestly without the mustache he looks more like a regular unremarkable guy with it he's unmistakably hitler
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>>136922950
"We use the past perfect to talk about the past in conditions, hypotheses and wishes:

I would have helped him if he had asked.
It was very dangerous. What if you had got lost?
I wish I hadn’t spent so much money last month."

https://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/en/english-grammar/verbs/past-tense/past-perfect
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>>136916832
So many things, scrap a lot of retarded heavy fighter and short range bomber programs and immediately develop long range bombers and fighters to go along with the BF-109 only, push the Brits and French in and force their surrender at Dunkirk rather than letting them go, hit and destroy Moscow instead of Stalingrad and hold back on further attacks, don't declare on the US after Japan attacks Pearl Harbor and in fact condemn the attack, finish off Britain before even touching the USSR, send all of the Jews/Bolsheviks who ended up in concentration camps by boats to whatever North/South American country you could pawn them off on in trade agreements. A bunch of other things too that I'm not thinking of right now
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>>136916832
Wait 7 years and then Nuke Murica.
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>>136923177
it doesn't work that way in colloquial use. "were hitler" is completely fine
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>>136916832

I would have used a condom more often - damnit that was dumb jigga thing to do. Fuck me
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>>136916832
Shave my stupid moustache.
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>>136923189
Honestly everyone forgets to win the war hitler needed to properly commit to a nuclear bomb project. Even if he's winning the conventional war the allies are still going to get the nuclear bomb
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Obliterated the British forces on the Normandy beaches rather than let them go.

Taken a lot more fuel with when invading Russia, or moved the invasion of Russia to a bit earlier in the year
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>>136922326
Russia was after officer cleansing. If German would have waited till next year they would have less problem with T-34.

PZIII and PZ IV that was main bull of thier tank force could do jack shit against T-34. They have to use mostly flak 88 mouted on trucks to deal with them. Or other platforms with 88. They needed thier bulk force of tanks equiped with 75 and 88 to handle T-34.

Finishing off UK would also allow Luftwaffe for COMPLETE dominance over russian skies (they have good dominance nevertheless) and no allied air raids on rhur and other industrial regions. This would also help with blocking Lend-Lease deliveries.

Yeah demoting would be good, but I would OUTRIGHT execute that fatty. He was disgrace to Luftwaffe.

Hitler bad decisions, I mean like durring Battle of Brittain when he ordered to switch from UK airfields (RAF was on bring of braking down) to civilian targets... since he got butthurt about UK bombing some uniportant civilian target in Germany.

Literaly BOB would be over in 2-3 months if they would keep pushing but that idiotic copral fucked up it.

Also if Pilsudzki didnt die, Poland would be allied with Germany. But thats alt-history here.
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>>136916832
Conscript young women and train them operate AA guns.
Mass produce 88mm cannons and make a flak cloud so dense above my cities it would blot out the sky.
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>>136923189
>don't declare on the US after Japan attacks Pearl Harbor and in fact condemn the attack
Would that be enough to prevent America from entering the war?
What do you do about the alliance with Japan?
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>>136923336
They had no idea about critical mass, they were still bulding reactors. Simply put no clue how to create A-bomb.
>>136923189
Many bad things with luftwaffe due to gering beeing idiot.

Not focusing on 109 and 190 (second one called butcher bird by brits, obvious reasons) , pushing more 410, sending ju-87 over britan.

Hell that idiot goering pushed for 109 carrying 250/500kg bombs while flying to britan to "help" with bombing which would cut thier fight time to pitfull 5-10m over birtain.

That fucking fatman was main reason luftwafe did so bad.
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>>136923073
>Not invade Russia
Either he invaded Russia or Russia invaded him. Better to be on the attack than be the defensive
>make sure country's entire economy is geared towards total war output from 1939
This
>Invade Egypt as soon as possible from Libya and seize Suez Canal, as early as 1940
Easier said than done. Although I agree the Afrikakorps should have been sent earlier
>Spain and Turkey
Spain just came out a devastating civil war. It's not joining anytime soon
>Turkey
Turkey was thinking about it but needed clear assurance that Hitler was going to win. They didn't receive that assurance
>Iraq
Iraq actually did join the Axis but was quickly conquered followed by Vichy Syria right before Operation Barbarossa began. The Germans couldn't spare any additional resources at that point
>Research long range strategic bomber
This. Although strike aircraft worked better for Blitzkrieg, once it became clear the war would not end quickly, long range heavy bombers should been researched. Should have continued with Weavers Amerika Bomber Project
>Bomb British industry
He did at first. Only when Churchill refused to stop bombing German civilian centers did Hitler lose his temper and bomb London.
>Tanks
This. Focus on mass producing standardized tanks instead of overly complicated tanks that require different machinery to build
>Build up Kriegsmarine
I'd say focus on U-boats instead of surface fleet. Plan Z was a few years of at best.
>Nuclear weapons
He was but it was easier for the Americans to get it done in the safety of their own country than the Germans who had to get the resources from occupied countries subject to sabotage (Like the Norwegians sabotaged their heavy water plants)
>Wait for Stalin to die
That's funny. You make it sound like Hitler knew when Stalin would die. It was by chance that he died when he did.
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>>136916935

Yeah, because it worked so well for burgers.
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Attacking Russia was utterly stupid as it added another front and another opponent. If Japan doesn't attack the US and Germany and Japan work together to attack Russia they would not have had any issue with them later and then could have focused their army on the US at a later time while taking the needed oil from Russia.

Germany and Japan simply were stupid as in that they rarely coordinated anything and both of them brought enemies into the conflict that later spelled their doom. Germany with Russia and Japan with the US.

In my eyes that was the biggest blunder by Germany.
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>>136916832
I'd turn myself into a negro.
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>>136923416
>Stalin was purging his army. But that didn't stop him carrying out other plans. He was STILL purging the army even when the Germans were right outside Moscow. The longer Hitler waited for the Soviets to build up their strength the less chance he had of victory.
>Finish off UK
It's not happening. The UK was not as beat as some might think and the the Luftwaffe had suffered heavy casualties from battling the RAF. The UK could not have been brought down by bombing and Hitler needed more U-boats to completely blockade Britain.
>He switched to civilians because his people were being killed. He waited for weeks for Churchill to stop bombing civilians (Churchill did this hoping Hitler would strike back. The British public were not really enthusiastic about fighting Hitler and he needed something to bring out the hatred in them) Unfortunately Hitler took the bait. But I probably would too if all my people were crying for revenge.
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>>136916832
Do not invade Poland.
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>>136924082
Read Icebreaker. It gives ample evidence to support the theory that Stalin was planning to launch an invasion of Europe while Hitler was preoccupied with Britain. Hitler made the right choice in attacking.
>>136924203
So black Hitler is just Eddie Murphy then?
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>>136916832
LITERALLY HITLER
>LITERALLY HITLER
LITERALLY HITLER
>LITERALLY HITLER
LITERALLY HITLER
>LITERALLY HITLER
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>>136924264
Would have to if Poland was willing to relinquish claims to Danzig.
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>>136923839
Well they fucked up with HS-129
B-2 variant had MK-108 30mm canon that was literaly A-10 of its time.
B-3 variant had 75mm cannon with revolver loader and could anal rape anything, even IS-3.

Problem is, they gave it to weak engines (french ones) instead of some high powered that went into shity bombers and even shiter twin engined heavy fighters.

This thing had "baththub" protecting pilot, was build to withstand huge damage and would RAPE russian tanks.
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>>136923336
Yes and no, Germany lacked Uranium as I understand it so devoting not only the time, but forcing yourself to get the resources for it would have been really difficult to justify without knowing in advance what you'd get out of it, and if you had THAT MUCH advanced knowledge then you could probably talk with your scientists and have one made by 1938
>>136923682
I believe it was a Defensive Pact, which does not require you to act when one of your members is the aggressor. In fact I believe many defensive pacts have fallen apart over that exact thing through the ages.
>>136923760
Its depressing reading about the Luftwaffe just because most of the best pilots ever were part of it, some of whose lives literally read like movies, but the command of their air forces may have been the worst ever.
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>>136924391
Wouldn't* have to
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>>136917700
this
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>>136923839
>Either he invaded Russia or Russia invaded him. Better to be on the attack than be the defensive
They had a non-agression pact, yo. Why would Stalin break it first? To help Churchill, ha-ha? More likely he would trade his support for part of Eastern Europe.
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>>136924394
Agreed. More time and effort should have gone into heavy bombers. It really would have benefited the Germans, especially in Russia and over the skies of England.
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>>136924498
Read Icebreaker by Victor Suvorov. It had always been Stalin's intention to allow the European powers to weaken themselves fighting each other before rolling in himself to spread communism to a weakened continent. However, the speed with which Hitler conquered France made him reconsider. The book I described outlines everything from troop positions, to political statements, to battle plans and confessions from important people (Including Stalin's son who was captured by the Germans) to show that Stalin was planning an attack on Germany to 'liberate' the continent from fascism only to subjugate it with communism.
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hitler is responsible for the european union which is now importing wwwaaaayyyyy to many shitskins into europe, so if i was hitler i wouldnt have invaded soviet union and got ass kicked to high hell
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>>136924547
Not over russia, russia was complete luftwaffe field.

With the exception of lend lease spitfires russian lacked in first part of war high altitute fighters. Russian fighters exceled at 3-5km alt, german fighters at 6-8km. Guess the outcome , thats why some aces easy socored 100-300 kills in ost front.

The high losses during BOB were goering fault 109/190 with bombs, ju 87 that should be refited to G-1/G-2 vartaint and used later on.

As for switching to civilians, yeah hitler took bait, which is sad. RAF would be dead in next 2 months.
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>>136924717
>However, the speed with which Hitler conquered France made him reconsider.
That is the truth, yes. And both sides used this pact to muster more forces. Germany planned to attack USSR anyway, USSR were preparing and waiting for Germany to make their move.

And this is the place where no one can say WHAT IF Germany instead of breaking peace treaty made another another pact.

But this is all theories, besides, your only real Ally is your army and fleet. Everyone in WW2 wanted to outsmart and stab each other. And we all know that in this game USA won.
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>>136925527
Actually that WHAT IF came a lot closer than you think. Molotov actually visited Berlin again to ask Hitler for a second Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. I can't remember all the details of the pact but I know that the Dardanelles being transferred from Turkey to the USSR was one condition. It must have been a bad deal because this is what made Hitler even more suspicious of the USSR, he downright told Molotov that his proposal was unacceptable so I think something about Romania was included as well (Remembering that Romania was Germany's main source of crude oil)
>>136925518
When I say Russia, I don't really mean in the initial blitzkrieg but more in seige operations like Minks or Sevastopol where precious artillery could have been spared with heavy bombers doing the work. I agree with everything else you said.
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>>136916832
Take a day or two off to enjoy the little things
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>>136925829
*Minsk
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If Hitler really wanted to play it smart from the very start he would have done his best to make an alliance with the US.

Do you think the US would have given a shit about what he was doing in those camps if they were allied and receiving trade/monies from Germany? Fuck no the states wouldn't have cared, not even a little bit.

However, he allied with Italy and Japan, two allies that did very little to aid Germany so by the end of the war he had enemies coming out of his ass there were so many.
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>>136916832
Gas the blacks.
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>>136925829
The bigest problem wasnt not dealing with UK.
I dont even mean performing Sea Lowe and landing in britan.

Just cripling RAF, destroying thier airfields and forcing brits into peace treaty.

Later on day/night bombing by allies realy cripled Rhur and other industrial regions. Just removing UK from picture would help with ost front.

At some point brits would be happy just to bail out of Europe and then finish off buissnes in colonies.

Also fucking V-2 costing 100,000 reich marks each. They made about 5200 of them.

Now this resources could be spend on
Panthers (117k reich marks)
Tiger I (250k reich marks)
Panzer IV (103k reich marks)

V2 was just terror weapon and quite bad terror weapon.
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>>136926057
There was no way America was allying with Germany. Roosevelt hated Germany. In fact when he was ill he openly stated he wanted to shoot Hitler in the head and this was in the 1930's. The US would never ally with a European dictatorship, especially Germany and especially when Great Britain still existed. Blood and language ties not withstanding, both countries Anglo countries were democracies and their allegiance was to each other and no other. Besides, in US political scientists had predicted at the dawn of the 20th Century that the US would have two major enemies: Germany and Russia. The US thought that WWI had brought an end to these problems but Germany rising once more re-instigated the old rivalry. Besides, the foreign interests of Germany and the USA did not align. The USA's interest was in keeping Germany surrounded and weak like all the other democracies in Europe. Germany's was breaking that encirclement to expand its influence eastwards. In short, there is no chance in hell (Without the USA becoming a fascist or National Socialist state) that America is siding with Germany in any way ever.
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>>136926269
I somewhat agree but again, the RAF wasn't not as defeated as some would think and the longer the Luftwaffe attacked Britain, the heavier their losses became, especially with the application of RADAR technology. I would suggest starving Britain via U-boat strangulation. Not even a scoundrel like Churchill could stop the British people from revolting against him if they were hungry enough. However, I agree that switching to civilian bombing was a hasty and emotionally irrational decision. But politically, Hitler was forced into a corner. His people would lose faith in him if he did not reciprocate in kind to England what the Germans had suffered.
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>>136926553
Germans used to be hard back then.
But this is just theory crafting, with that idiot Goering luftwaffe was fucked up from start.

I think at some point with proper mix of u-boot blockade, cripling raf UK would just bail from EU. And focus on keeping colonies.

Hell hilter dissing japs and letting UK+US vs Japan into long conflict would allow him to secure russia.

Also bigest mistake, not beeing fucking ready for russian winter, fucked up napoleon, fucked up hitler.

Literaly only country that succesfully occupied Moscow was Poland-Lithuanian commonwhealth in 1610-12. Considering both us and lithuanians are used to harsh winter it didnt hurt as as bad. And it was short term victory.

Russia is tough nut to occupy.
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>>136927009
>Germans used to be hard back then
True. It's a shame they were castrated so hard after WWII.
>I think at some point with proper mix of u-boot blockade, crippling RAF, UK would just bail from EU. And focus on keeping colonies.
Yeah, but Hitler was quite indecisive with whether he wanted to focus on U-boats or a expanded surface fleet. More energy and resources should have gone into U-boat production because they were really effective.
>Japan
The purpose of allying Japan in the first place was more because Hitler believed that their dominance in Asia was greater than China hence him switching to supporting Japan over China. He had hoped that with Japan's looming presence the Western powers would have to split their forces making it easier for Hitler to achieve his goals in Europe.
>Russian winter
I agree, although the real problem was distributing supplies. The Germans had the equipment (For the most part, although anti-freeze fuel arrangements should have been made) but getting them to the troops along long, often times sabotaged supply lines was very difficult
>Literaly only country that succesfully occupied Moscow was Poland-Lithuanian commonwhealth in 1610-12. Considering both us and lithuanians are used to harsh winter it didnt hurt as as bad. And it was short term victory.
Well's that's true but not entirely true. Napoleon did make it Moscow but the city had already been abandoned and subjected to scorched earth tactics. The Mongols also made it Moscow. And if one looks at the borders of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth at the time when they invaded Moscow they were much much closer than the distance Napoleon and Hitler had to traverse. So it was probably a lot easier. But it was a victory nonetheless.
>Russia is tough nut to occupy
'The vastness of Russia devours us' - Gerd von Rundstedt
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I would have stopped at Poland, though my heart would have hungered for France. People actually care about France and they would have come for it back eventually.
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>>136916832
Kill dark Serbs, but don't do anything to white Serbs. Dark Serbs are rape larvae and are children of traitors. The traitors let themselves get fucked by roaches in the past.
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>>136927630
Britain and France declared war in 1939 over Poland. He couldn't stop at Poland after that. At the very LEAST France would have to be defeated in battle.
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>>136916832
Hitler looks real subhuman
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>>136926553
>Starve a country that is 80% farmland with a navel blockade.
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>>136916832

This is what Hitler would have done to trannies.
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>>136927721
How long can the British economy keep itself afloat with imports? Without war materials and natural resources. Starving them of resources is just as effective as starving them of food.
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>>136927577
They lacked warm clothing for foot soldiers most of all..
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Where can I get original Mein Kampf, unedited by jews? Pls help
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>>136916832

>Fire Goering, Rundstedt, Rommel
>Do not fire Manstein, Guderian
>Stop taking prescription dope from quack doctor
>Do not issue hold order on Dunkirk, use captured allied troops to bargain peace deal with the UK later
>Align with Franco and send troops to Gibralter
>Help Mussolini take Suez, and take care of his incompetent ass for general
>Instead of invading Poland and Balkan countries, invite them into defensive pact against Soviet Union, effectively turning them into buffer states against Soviet offensive.
>Stay neutral in Japan-China conflict
>Concentrate budget on nuclear program instead of rocketry tech
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I wouldn't have attacked France.
Rest of the powers would have just ignored that because they ware afraid of the Soviets already.
The trick was just not to give Western nations a pretext for actively entering the war.

Thankfully Hitler was too much of megalomaniac strung out on amphetamines and he fucked it all up.
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>>136930632
Are you afraid it's gonna be full of retarded shit?
Don't worry, if it's there it means you got the original.
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>>136931755
t. never read it, but my history teacher told me it's retarded so it's true. Also
>>>/v/ikop
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>>136916832
Not invade Russia, meet with Stalin and Hirohito for peace talks after developing better weapons and railguns in case of with the Japanese Empire on the west to invade by 2 front in case of. Convince Mussolini to be National Socialist earlier with some changes of his own to create the Great Roman Reich. Get Japan on my side for an aerial invasion of America to liberate them from the Jewsters
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Trick all the minorities that were cleansed into fighting for me, Then when we win the world I would wipe them out. Don't know why he did that but the opposite away around, because everyone knew he wasn't for good as soon as he cleansed them.
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WEED LMAO
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I would stay in germany, reorganize everything and sent the jews back to israel. By that way the WW2 would never happen to stop my plans. Furthermore people in the future will not freak out when they hear the name ''nazism'' or ''national socialism''
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>>136916832
>If you were Hitler, what would you have done differently?
I would make the holocaust real
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>>136920652
>Russia was planning to attack Germany
So what? Russia attacking you is not the same as you invading Russia. You can't invade Russia. We're too big, you can't conquer us. You can defeat us in a battle somewhere in Europe though.
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>>136932360
>you will never built masturbation machines in auschwitz and jack jews off to death.
why even build reich?
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>>136916832
I would have gassed 6 million Jews as a starter.
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Sit tight, defend Germany from (((Bolsheviks))), create the strongest economic and cultural superpower in the world, build a fucking moat and a wall. Prevent Jews from undermining country, segregate from them, but cooperate technologically - build nuclear weapons with help of Einstein. Strongly encourage sexual selection to improve racial IQ and surpass Ashkenazis. Next Furor selected like an employee; based on test performance, experience and morality. Mock USA incessantly, warn Japan about Anime. Deport people for treason, lies and corruption, especially journalists. Only wage war over vital resources and to prevent annihilation/spread of communism and Islam.
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I'd actually support the forming of Intermarium / Międzymorze and try to gain them as allies.

Ally with Lehi and conscript the jews.

Assuming it goes well and I have enough allies in Europe, I might try to force the hand of USSR and make them the bad guys of WWII. After that try best to wipe 'em out, ruskies don't deserve to live.
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>>136916832
Develop jets instead of V2 rockets.
Avoid fighting Russia.
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>>136923839
>>Not invade RussiaEither he invaded Russia or Russia invaded him. Better to be on the attack than be the defensive

You need 3 times the manpower for offensive. Not to mention much lower morale of the enemy. Stalin managed do bring to his side even some anti communists

Russians suck at offensive, he would just need to hold them for a while and SU could break itself, like empire did.
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>>136916832
Toppled England before invading Russia. Also not allied the Japs, but rather go down the road of non aggression agreement with them and have good diplomatic ties. This would have kept the American's out of Europe giving Germany a shot at going after Russia without having to fight on any other fronts at the same time. This would have allowed more troops to be deployed in the Russian invasion and would have flattened the commies under blitzkrieg a lot quicker.
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>>136932443

This. There was no reason to go to Stalingrad
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>>136933921
Also focusing on stalingrad instead of taking Ural with oil fields.

Fucking idiotic.

Also it was BIT to early, PZIII/IV were uterrly ussless againts KV-1 and T-34. Needed more platforms with 75mm and 88mm to efficently counter russian tanks.
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>>136916832
Don't take his fucking moustache off, you dick. It's iconic.
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