Brit/pol/: Big Breddah edition

>>136354040
First for Australia!

Just...

Get it sorted, I'm fucking sick of the constant procrastinating .

And If I hear another re moaner refer to the EU as Europe will go ape shit, that fat fuck Anerican cuntfor instance who did farenheight 911, cant think of his fat fuck name but I saw a C4 interview and he was basically laughing at us told us to enjoy our miserable Island, laughing at US?

Hahah, the fat prick

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>>136354040
Buy British goods drink british eat British.

Support British brands

The bogs demand it

>>136354040
>>136354134
here is the cunt

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/michael-moore-brexit-comments-uk-enjoy-miserable-life-island-a7878106.html

>>136354536

https://archive.is/z9T25

Brit/pol/ - <Title> edition

>Gove confirms foreign access to UK fishing grounds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40814377

>UK diplomats' families withdrawn from Venezuela
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/16/uk-reaching-tipping-point-on-abuse-of-politicians-paul-bew

>Home Office’s lack of action on post-Brexit Border ‘is shocking’
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/home-office-s-lack-of-action-on-post-brexit-border-is-shocking-1.3169069

>Anti-Islam UKIP leadership hopeful 'too extreme', says AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-40802240

>Bring in British only passport lanes, minister says
https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/bring-british-passport-lanes-minister-says/

>Last day of Royal duties for Prince Phillip
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-philip-final-royal-engagement-gaffes-96-years-duke-edinburgh-queen-elizabeth-ii-a7872561.html

>British email prankster fools White House officials into replying
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/01/british-email-prankster-fools-white-house-officials-into-replying

>No 10 says free movement ends when UK leaves EU
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40774251

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>>136354040
>Archive only
This kills the OCD anonymong

>>136354599
Fuck off you half nigger fuck.

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>>136354500
Reminder for leftwing scumbags

>>136354564
Do you ever stop?

>>136354500
>>136354040
aw fuck so the glasgow screen anon came back? Any other pic of what he put up?

>>136354425

Shit EU memes that need to die

>Breggsit (instead of BReXit)
>Out of Europe (the continent)
>Think of it like a divorce (no)
>Muh fishing
>We'll only have X for a few more months (eg/ EU wide sms tariff)
>Lust to give away sovreignity to international institutions
>We need NATO

any more?

>>136354564
What's your motive mate? You archive everything. The hero we don't deserve but so desperately need.

>>136354635
just report it
it's a bot and it spams

Cite something as precedence from a previous case that shows the that the Queen cannot voice her opinion.

If there are no principles to be extracted from judgements showing that Queen cannot voice her opinion, you don't have a leg to stand on.

>>136354598
>>136354362
> it makes it seem like difference is a bad thing when in reality people being difference is what gives us strength
We have different versions of open-gender roles in our heads.

Really what are the dangers of having this? Women wont be culturally brainwashed from an early age to be physically and intellectually helpless and men will be able to express how they feel more easily, which is proven to be psychologically beneficial.

>>136354040
Reminder to buy barr cola instead of coca cola.

>>136354638
It was cardiff, if it was glasgow he would be facing the death penalty.

>>136354500
Hahah wtf, was that actually real?

>>136354552
Again, I can tell you exactly when the last time that precedent was broken.
1708 Scottish Milita Bill.
It has not been broken since, therfore the precedent is over 300 years old.
It is your obligation to provide a single incident in which it was broken since. How on earth can I provide you with examples of a thing not happening you fucking idiot?

>>136354590
i admire your autism sir, and shall continue to post Brit/pol/s of a superior format until it becomes a constitutional precedent and is given the royal nod.

>>136354614
>Being so angry at pixels on a screen you resort to racially abuse a third party

>>136354787
I'd racially abuse you in real life too you stupid fucking mudhut builder.

>>136354614
>Using a Carriage Service to Menace

Careful mate or the coppers will be knocking tomorrow.

>>136354642
>We could have stayed and reformed it la
>I trust people in Brussels more
>Leave only won because of MUH RED BUS

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>>136354040
>>136352493
/pol/ will defend this.

>>136354833
>coping this hard

>>136354769
How long have you been interested in law for?

>>136354769
Wouldn't even bother with these mongs any more lad. Brit/pol/ has been particularly awful this morning and afternoon and I'm leaving this shitfest for now. Hopefully the mongs have gone to sleep by tonight.

>>136354692
I think your seeing to much difference between men and women when have women ever been made to feel intellectually helpless this isn't the 50's.At my school a lot of girls got way better grades than the boys. I also don't understand why you have the idea that men cant express their feelings this sounds like bullshit to me. Also women are physically inferior to men its science

>>136354914
Off yourself.

>>136354769
You never told me the first time, but thanks for finally getting around to it.

You finally managed to cite something as precedent! However, that was regarding royal assent. I never said the Queen shouldn't grant royal assent.

Again, cite something that shows the Queen cannot have an opinion.

>>136354859
Whoops, forgot my trip.

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Just lol at leave voters.

>>136354836
Very good points. You misunderstood a few of mine though, let me explain.

Women do get better grades, that true, but they lack ambition and initiative and men do not. That is why more men are in higher-upper positions. The physical helplessness of women comes from not physical strength but their coordination. They never bother to engage in sports and use their spatial-intellect so they are uncoordinated and aloof to the world around them.
These symptoms are all a result of the classic gender role that hasnt changed for thousands of years. I think it's time we update it and have a higher functioning society.

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>>136354890
Ah yes, the old "posting the exact same thing on different threads" trick...

>>136354769
Jesus you are such a little bitch

>>136354711

Cardiff screen lad, if you are here, well done m8, you made me chuckle heartily when I saw the article in The Times the other day. Doing Gods work, bless your soul.

>>136355058
So basically you want to fuck a man but haven't been able to accept you're gay yet?

>>136354692
Read about David reimer if you want to see how this can go.

Everyone on /pol/ should know about the reimer experiment

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

>>136355157
He's also avoiding my question over and over again.

I ask him for applicable principles, and he refuses.

>>136354893
They arent messing with sex and procreation drive. They are being neutral and leaving it for the instincts to shape. I'd argue that is a lot more natural than we had it before. forcefully pushing kids through human sized cookie cutters regardless of whether they fit or not?

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>>136354642

>The EU don't want an army (silly)
>David Davis is a negotiating powerhouse
>The EU prevented WW3

>>136355179
I agree and we need more of this sort of thing!

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>>136354890
>paid shills not getting enough (you)s to get paid their meagre £0.02 per day for pushing left wing toss

kys

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2003/jul/03/thisweekssciencequestions4

Why is the guardian racist to celts?

>>136354986
The Scottish Milita Bill has been brought up constantly for fucks sake.
The burden off proof is upon you to offer a case where that precedent has since been broken.

ARSENAL
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>>136355327
Give me the principles you've derived from the debacle with the militia bill that show a Queen cannot give her opinion?

It appears to me it's only relevant to royal assent.

>>136354692
Feminism encourages women to be liberated. To go out and spend their 20s experimenting and just having fun. How can someone instill values of integrity and dignity into their child when they spend their adult years sleeping with a different stranger every week? This has made women unhappy. Before you say I'm sexist i think its a problem with men as well. It takes two to tango and men are doing this just as much as women. What kind of a role model does this leave for the kids if not paving a future for them into binge drinking culture and promiscuity. The dating scene has been reduced to hook up apps. Maybe there is some value in what you've said about gender roles but wouldn't it be more beneficial if the parents are different but compliment each other the way traditional gender roles do? Instead of the parents being virtually the same in thè way they act?

>>136355327
You're working class, stfu

>>136355232
>please show me examples of a thing not happening to prove it doesn't happen
You're retarded.

>>136355058
How old are you?? i have only just left college but the majority of classes have a good mix between boys and girls the only reason upper positions have more men is because up until the last decade the gender roles have been how you state they are also when i was at school we had quite alot of girls sports teams i think girls still do like to do sports. Why do you think girls also lack ambition and men don't its more that some people want to achieve and some will are contempt with not achieving to the highest point of their ability. I agree with equality but i still think gender roles are needed we can empower both men and women and you would have two equally strong genders but men and women are different it's science so you cant say that our brains work in exactly the same way

>>136355510
I'm asking you to prove to me it can't happen, which you don't seem to be able to.

Give me a like case or STFU

>>136355287
If you're going to post an image like this at least make sure it's not one where a guy is posing with trophy kills.

>>136355459
We don't have codified principles you tit (unless were talking EU primacy) We're not Europe. That the entire basis of English Common Law and you can't even understand that.

>>136355555
that ridiculous get tho

man =/= women

jej has spake

>>136355460
What you are describing only applies to the lower intellectual-classes. The simpletons who work paycheck to paycheck at bottom of the barrel jobs. Your faith in humanity would be restored if you ignored the plebs and focussed on the people who use their brains.

>>136355684
You can't have a world full of above-average people

>>136355250
Basically those cookie cutters kept homo sapiens on the planet. You don't know the outcome of these things - like feminism pushing work on women, the unintended consequences are wages went down (cos bigger labour pool) and so did the birth rate (plus autism etc rises as older women try to have kids after their careers).

Now, of course, they tell us we need immigration to the west to prop up our declining birth rate...

>>136355250
You've got a very shortsighted understanding of this issue, disregarding your previous and unsupported claims, you act as if destroying the idea of gender isn't literally unprecedented in all of human history. The social effects would be enormous, it may well turn out that society simply doesn't function without 'cookie cutter holes', there's a reason our cultures evolved to have these things in the first place - they were more effective than any alternatives.

>>136355570
I've told you repeatedly it's set by 300 years of precedent and to go against such policy would cause constitutional crisis.
Because you don't understand what those words mean, you assume they mean nothing.

>>136355627
All I asked for is a precedential decision, which you have not yet posted.

>>136355763
Why exactly would it cause a constitutional crisis if there was never any judgement with principles applicable to the Queen speaking her mind?

The chapter on education in 'The Abolition of Britain' is fantastic. I really do recommend you all pick up a copy and given it a read.

>>136355640
I cant tell if you are being sarcastic men and women are different our brains work differently

>>136355414
Fan tv?

>>136355868
>>136355771
I'm fucking done with this. Just read an introduction to English Common law because you're beyond retarded.

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maek u fink

>>136355555
Im in my mid twenties.
>had quite alot of girls sports teams
Doesnt matter what the few do, it's what the masses do and that is to stay away from sports like it's a disease.

>>136355627
You think we should? I say reinstate the bill of rights. And I'd be in favour of a true UK constitution (I mean in the US sense with unalienable and generally negative rights, and limiting govt) - if I trusted any cunt to draw it up...

>>136355986
I think it's you who doesn't understand English common law.

The law is based upon precedential decisions.

GIVE ME ONE THAT IS APPLICABLE

>>136355992
My God

They're developing self awareness

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JUST

>>136356007
Yeah but that's not because girls grow up being told they cant do sports it's because the majority of them don't enjoy physical activity as much as guys do. Do you think everyone should just be pumped full of hormones so we all act in the same way??

>>136355992
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia

>>136356009
The bill of rights is/was classed as constitutional statute, which is written constitution. Largely uncodified doesn't mean completely so. The HRA counts as written constitutional statute also.

I don't understand the state of our police i think they all need physical training as part of the job some of them look like they are in such a bad physical shape police need to be strong otherwise they will end up getting over powered by criminals

>>136355736
We've disregarded a lot of things from the past and people like you spoke up against it saying it was too much of a change.

We outlawed duelling. Imagine, for millenia we were able to resolve our issues with some good old fashion 1 to 1 combat. No that we have gotten rid of that it has meant that passive-aggressive sneaky peopel are able to take advantage of regular people and among conflicts are not resolved meaning all that anger builds up within society. Just imagine the dire consequences..But hold on....wait....It's nowhere near as bad as this argument turns out. We have a fluid functioning society since we abolished duelling and the same will happen when we stop forcing strict gender roles onto both men and women.

>>136356009
this
UK constitution would be a good idea
>redefine monarchy, parliament, voting
>get rid of all the chaff, make it checked and balanced etc.
>get deep into understanding power relations

the case against:
>failed experiment of US constitution
>old english people would hate giving up muh olde angleandish fish n ships
>new const/ would be written by global corporations and social media buzz
>don't trust the avg Brit with writing a constitution (witness this thread and previous)

>>136355992
Does this mean we can finally have REAL Liberalism? (lel)

>>136356123
>never kissed the people who gave me gay marriage

The """Conservatives""" bent over backwards to cuck themselves on that issue and the degenerates aren't even grateful. Why am I not surprised?

Why are large elements of the Traditional Right and Alt-Right so pro-IRA? You would think they would be against Marxist anti-white terror organisations.

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>>136356076
Eddie BTFO again

>When will he learn?

>>136356076
>can't differentiate case law precedent and operational precedent
State of you lad.
I'll give you one last chance to tell me of a judgment in which a minor party MP can't become PM. Because it's the same thing yet you've repeatedly avoided addressing it.

>>136356292
Stop wasting our time.
To discuss such ridiculousness on the internet is nothing short of distraction.

>>136355731
Gender roles have nothing to do with those problems you listed. Those actually come from bad parenting. Idiots tend to make bad parents.

>>136355729
No, but if you're unhappy with the behaviour of idiots it makes sense to stay away from them. Your dislike for their behaviours obviously means you aren't one of them.

>>136356374
Oh I see, self declared victory is more important to you than actually understanding the state you live in. Pathetic lad.

>>136356273
>BoR
True and iirc one MP asks a question every year to show its theoretically still law. But in practice it obviously isn't the case, eg our right to bear arms for self defence. Too much is left to after the fact judgement and precedent, than clearly codified rights (as opposed to revokable priviliges).

>>136356292
That's fucking retarded, you can't compare something that was only ever utilized by an incredibly small minority of the population to a total change in the fabric of society.

If you're looking for an example of massive social change which has been proven to have had serious negative consequences, look at the breakdown of marriage.

>>136356375
A minor party MP can become PM if they pass a Queen's speech.

>Because something has never been done, it can't be done

Presumably, then, there's a precedent for the Queen not walking around in spandex, so it can't be done?

Give me precedential principles that show the Queen cannot voice her opinion, else sit down.

>>136356492
You haven't been able to answer my question.

TOO MUCH AUTISM

>>136356492
They're baiting you.

>>136355736
The gender roles are being flipped though because we have boys being told they can be girls and girls that are being told they can be boys. The whole thing is gonna do a huge flip back eventually when everyone realizes that men are better at certain things and women are better at certain things. We should be promoting the differences between men and women so they can be at the best of their ability

>>136356538
one big issue is the new supreme court
created as a supreme arbiter on judicial matters, could be great for UK citizens' rights
turns out to be a jumbo rubber stamp for the elite
first major act was to try and corrupt vote to leave europe
>failed

UK is a failed state, owned by multi-national corporations.

>>136356367
There commies but the whole driving forigners out appeals to them
Plus every American thinks he is irish

it's pretty decent on here today actually some good discussions

>>136356538
Yeah because judgments have been made regarding the BoR it lives on in case law as I understand it. The issue is current statute takes precedent over it and when it comes into conflict with it the BoR is overwritten, same goes for any national law conflicting with EU regulations or directives.

>>136356292
False equivalence. Duelling was never a biological imperative central to our survival as a species....

>>136356620
I sorta half know that, but I don't want their retardation to be taken as fact.

>>136356539
You dont know how much of the population participated in duelling. Most people didnt because they knew to act proper lest they be challenged to a duel. Now that the possibility of a duel is gone people can act like cunts to each other without fearing repercussions. We managed to get around that though.

The breakdown of marriage is a result of a lack of emotional intelligence among people. They either want too much or do too little and disregard the feelings of their partner.

I.e. they should of never married in the first place.

>>136356792
conflict resolution through violence is as innate to us as gender.

>>136356806
>"OH NO I'M getting BTFO"

>"Fug there are no precedential decisions I can cite, nor anything I can cite as precedent"

>"I know, I'll call it retardation"

t. Eddie

>>136356367
Plastic paddy syndrome. Some burger hears a dropkick murphies track and gets the Guinness shits, he gets misty eyed for olde oireland

>>136354500
Is this real lmao

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>>136354713
Yep

>>136356480
Nope they are all clearly articulated by feminist academics themselves. Again, read pagalia...

>>136356546
>he thinks the electorate would be fine with a minor party PM
Okay, definitely done with you now.

>>136357184
Never said the electorate would be fine with it.

Do you often strawman when you get BTFO?

Just watched this video from You Kipper (I know he lurks here he's told me before and screenshotted proofs too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nse0Ch5_cKs

For starters, I know for a fact that he's cherrypicking video recordings from London to make it seem more "Muslim" than it actually is. I watch the BBC all the time and there are literally only British people walking around in the background.

London does not have a Muslim problem.


Secondly, I notice that he is trying to beat the war drums to get US anons involved by featuring Muslims in London (again, they are not a problem there) holding up signs calling for the ousting of Theresa May and Donald Trump because only Americans are the one's who can implement change in the world via the internet (ie Trump causing Brexit and also Americans meming his election).

So let me give you this response:
After the way you've treated us Americans on brit/pol/, in real life, 1812, and during the leadup to the american revolution, we will never give you any help, ever. We rule the world and couldn't give two shits about what an irrelevant country like you thinks.

I hope the Muslims reverse crusade you to make up for your injustices in the past and make Europe a Muslim majority country where Christians are persecuted. Seriously fuck you all.

>>136357224
What do you think precedent is? I'm not convinced English is your first language.

>>136355684
Bit rude desu

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>>136357232
>60%

>>136356864
>You dont know how much of the population participated in duelling.

Untrue, it was always a very aristocratic practice.
>>136356864
>The breakdown of marriage is a result of a lack of emotional intelligence among people. They either want too much or do too little and disregard the feelings of their partner.
>I.e. they should of never married in the first place.

I'm obviously not talking about the failure of any given individual marriage but the destruction of the very idea of marriage as a worthwhile or important endeavour. There are clear and scientifically proven links between the rise in the number of single mothers and increases in crime and decreases in literacy and living standards.

Now I want to ask you a question, every educated psychologist will tell you of the importance of both a Father figure and Mother figure to the healthy development of a child. How do you suppose something like this could be achieved in a genderless society? Our physiological has evolved alongside our society, you are playing with something much more fundamental than the acceptance of a trial by combat.

>>136357402
physiology*

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>>136357232
>London does not have a Muslim problem.
London doesn't exist.
There is only Londonistan.

>>136357232
>American colonists had some of the lowest taxes on Earth

>the American colonies were the most wealthy places on the planet

>The colonies had religious freedom unparalleled anywhere else

>The British trading monopoly gave the Americans a partner to sell their goods to

>Americans threw tea into the Boston harbour because it cost so little that the criminal smuggling rings couldn't make any money

>Americans had local assemblies that were offered the power to levy their own taxes in return for running their own settlements by Lord North, and they refused

You're literally just petulant fucking children.

>>136356736
Exactly. I'm no expert on US law, but as I understand, it's the opposite there - the BoR is primary, a law that is in conflict with it is itself illegal and is struck down. Look at the 5th amendment and the right to not self-incriminate (silence on arrest etc) and what would be involved in changing it. Our rights on arrest changed overnight and most cunts didn't even realise.

>>136357317
Precedent in law is based on prior decisions. You have given me none. Nada. Zilch.

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>>136357504
London needs flushed

>>136357621
That's case law.

The greatest cricketer of all time, Brian Lara, was a black man.

Brit/pol/ BTFO

>>136357669
That's common law.

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>>136357402
btfo

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“Climate change” is the major concern of more than 70 per cent of Germans, according to a new study, which found that less than half of those polled ranked mass migration as a cause for anxiety.

Published ahead of the national election in September, the survey conducted by the Kantar Emnid opinion research centre found that 71 per cent of Germans listed climate change as their greatest cause of personal concern.

Looming less large in respondents’ minds than fluctuations in the Earth’s climate were the possibility of new wars, or the threat of terror attacks, which were identified as worries by 65 and 63 per cent of people polled.

Just 45 per cent of Germans named the massive influx of asylum seekers as a cause for concern, placing the issue ahead only of unemployment — which 33 per cent of survey participants said is a source of personal unease.

>>136357564
>all that
>and now America rules the world

>>136357402
>aristocratic practice from a slim time period, ignoring the thousands of years before aristocrats were a thing.

>destruction of the very idea of marriage as a worthwhile or important endeavour.
For no other reason than people not being intelligent enough to live with each other

>There are clear and scientifically proven links between the rise in the number of single mothers and increases in crime and decreases in literacy and living standards.
You havent taken into account growing population or decrease in wages, and these single mother demographics are a vast minority, lol. They always have been.

>Now I want to ask you a question, every educated psychologist will tell you of the importance of both a Father figure and Mother figure to the healthy development of a child.
absolutely.
>How do you suppose something like this could be achieved in a genderless society?
You dont have a complete understanding of the nomenclature-gender neutral means not forcing people into identities they havent arrived at themselves by threat of ridicule.

Know what gender-neutral means before you debate about it.

>>136357595
If we actually voted MPs in based on their policy and not tie colour it wouldn't be an issue, but because they are the representative elect they are the supreme law makers of this country (except the EU). It's more an issue with the electorate and how much it's devolved in maturity and responsibilities over the last decades imho.

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Which tripfag do you want to kill them selves first?

>>136357669
>>136357738
Same thing: in common law, case law (precedents) apply, as opposed to having codified statute. Basically case law is the body of precedents in common law.

>>136357738
Case law is a part of common law yes, but what you're talking about is entirely judiciary. You're viewing through a very narrow spectrum.

>>136357911
>MPs are perverts
Based

>>136357851
Surely if climate change was such a huge problem every single country in the world would be working around the clock to fix it

>>136357911
Pube. By a long, long margin.

>>136357985
How else do you determine precedent if not by extracting principles from past judgements?

Aren't you then just saying that if something doesn't happen, it can't happen?

>>136357911
>Freedom go to hell

How are they not self-aware?

>>136357960
Case law is a primary facet in English Common law, but the judiciary is not the sole source of precedent. Parliamentary procedures for example.

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>>136358284
based chinks

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>>136354500

what are some british goods and drinks?

I wanna know what to avoid

>>136358152
No, but it's less likely to happen. Judges etc will defer to decisions made in high profile previous cases. Especially since they detail why those decisions were made. Going against precedent does happen but they need a strong case, especially as it will certainly lead to appeal.

t.used to work at a case law publisher

>>136358152
I'm saying that if something has been done a certain way for 3 centuries, especially in regards to governing, to suddenly revert back to a completely juxtaposed system of governing will throw the constitution into crisis. Judicial case law plays a large part in common law, but it is not the only source.

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>>136358442
British things don't exist mate haven't you heard

>>136357870

If you're going to continue with this nonsense about the prevalence of duels you're going to need to provide some evidence, not that it's prevalence really matters given my other points about it.

You havent taken into account growing population or decrease in wages, and these single mother demographics are a vast minority, lol. They always have been.

Mate, in 1950 1% of households were single-parent, in 1970 it was 8%, in 2011 it was 22%. You're having a laugh if you think the numbers aren't increasing or somehow aren't significant. Furthermore, average wages have increased over that period.
Please, look up some of the studies yourself that show a causal links between single parentship and various types of disadvantage (despite substantial welfare handouts and subsidies) and antisocial behaviour in children. You can't expect me to take you seriously if you don't have a rudimental understanding of these things.

>>136357870
>You dont have a complete understanding of the nomenclature-gender neutral means not forcing people into identities they havent arrived at themselves by threat of ridicule.

You can hardly blame me for the question, before you made some very specific claims about how in the 'gender neutral utopia' men would be able to 'express themselves' and women wouldn't be 'forced into being submissive'. You weren't advocating for people to fall into roles naturally, you were, ostensibly, advocating for the destruction of gender and a world where what we now call women and men are identical, liberated from their supposed weaknesses.

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>>136358442
>desu

>>136357911
What are they protesting against? The Burka ban I assume

>>136358579
Being allowed to protest presumably

>>136358442
Well most famous pirates were British, so I'd sack off your meme flag for starters, Jim lad

>>136357864
>This is what Americans think

How delusional, as a nation, do you have to be for all of you to believe that?

No one likes America, people openly admit this and act as if it were true (which it is).
Nations undermine you, and you can do nothing but beg for agreement.
Your president is ridiculed by every person and every nation.

You aren't a superpower; hell, you may not even be a regional power anymore, if Mexico and Canada decide to buddy up. You. Are. Nothing.

>>136358492
I don't see how a Queen merely stating an opinion will do that's.

If she starts vetoing bills, sure. But that was never what I said.

>>136358545
I cant find it but i saw study before showing that boys raised by single mothers are more likely to have autism

>>136358579
Wait wut? We're banning ninja hats?

>>136357864
>america rules the world
>Israel rules america

>>136357232
He's a shit youtuber but you're an even bigger mong if you think London doesn't have a problem with Islam.

>>136358802
Not only that, as women go into the workplace they are leaving it later and later to have kids. This is also causing a rise in the autists

>>136358865
>Saudi Arabia rules Israel AND the US

>>136358749
Because the precedent is set where the monarch doesn't involve themselves in matters of parliament. In a world where muh democracy is the sacred calf of governments, it's even more solidified.

>>136358948
autism is super power

>>136358972
Fuck i didn't know that research timee

>>136359219
Is the cunt on the right sleeping?

>>136359036
Why do you care about not causing constitutional crises so much? What if the Monarch comes out on top?

>>136358545
In the UK, 2011, single parents (men included) as a percentage of the population was around 1%.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105214207/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/family-demography/families-and-households/2011/sum-lone-parents.html

>women and men are identical
Firstly the gender roles you are defending are man made.
Secondly you are misrepresenting my argument. I dont advocate the destruction of anything except ridicule and abuse to those who stray from the gender-trend.

Women are considered less than a man by
people like you in terms of general intelligence. You think men should be making the BIG decisions, right?

Women are told from an early age that sports isnt for them and looking pretty is the most important thing they have to worry about. If you think thats at all natural you must be fucking stupid. Back in the days women had to be as fit and coordinated as men otherwise they would be eaten!

>>136359219
At least 1/4 of them aren't white.

>>136359288
Parliament is sovereign. Parliament will win. Fucking learn your own system of government.

>>136359219
>tfw I know the one second to far left

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>>136354642
>everything that happens post-Brexit is entirely the fault of Brexit

>>136359317
OK I got to ask: are you a faggot or a grill?

I am generally disgusted by the quality of posting in /brit/pol

>>136359361
>Parliament is sovereign

So what? They'd pass legislation banning the Queen from speaking her mind?

>>136359317
okay mate, it was nice to meet you but now it's time for you to go back >>/reggit/

could you take your tripadmirers with you plx

>>136359317
You're a retard lad.

>>136359442

also starting sentences with:
>"What Brexit was was ..."
>"What the Brexit vote means is ...."
>"We must respect the will/voice of the people ... BUT ..."

>>136359494
no dude it means if the Queen says one thing and parliament another, parliament wins.

>>136359662
How is this relevant to the Queen voicing her opinion?

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>>136359317
ahahaha, read the first fucking line of your study. Looks like it's even worse than I thought!

>26%

If you're a troll, very well done. If not, there may be something wrong with you.

>Women are considered less than a man by
people like you in terms of general intelligence. You think men should be making the BIG decisions, right?

No, I couldn't care less. If a woman is more qualified she can be in charge. IQ studies show no meaningful differences between the genders.

>>136359317
>Women are told from an early age that sports isnt for them and looking pretty is the most important thing they have to worry about. If you think thats at all natural you must be fucking stupid. Back in the days women had to be as fit and coordinated as men otherwise they would be eaten!

Of course it's not all natural! But why is this a necessarily a bad thing? In today's society a woman is perfectly free to pursue sport if she wants, there's no stigma attached to it. If girls are brought up thinking it's good to be pretty and then, hey, being pretty makes them happy, what's the big deal?

>>136354999
is that josef fritzl?

It is not yet 4pm in the afternoon. I like to keep my flats patio door style window open because I smoke, for 3 hours I have been listening to noise. This noise is caused by "PRIDE". I've had whistles, cheering, "love in a hopeless place" on repeat, and constant laughing and shouting.

Fuck Pride. There is literally no other "festival" that would be allowed to be such a disturbance.

>>136359941
Suppose you can't close the patio door on a Sunday because there's no precedent for it.

>>136359822

bookmarks
>tripadvisor
I advise you drop the trip

>1947 1950 girl scout
wtf trip pedo?

>150 calorie snack
>5 healthy overnight
bender

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>>136360020

>>136360020
Haha.

>>136359822
>Of course it's not all natural! But why is this a necessarily a bad thing?
Your entire argument is over the dangers of straying from the natural, lol.

If you are an advocate for letting people make their own decisions you should have no problem against gender-neutral propaganda.

>>136360054
>He doesn't realise I'm a grill.

>>136358656
Kek

>>136359822
You a bahai, mate?

>>136359941
I don't understand pride surely by making such a big deal about being gay it is making it seem like gays are special instead of treating them like norma lpeople. Also if i was gay i wouldn't want to come out if everyone assumes you are part of that degeneracy

>>136360149
Nah, just kidding. I'm on my gf's computer, hence the incognito tabs.

>>136359494
You're like talking to a wall. I give up.

>>136360149
Post feet.

>>136360124
>make their own decisions
>propaganda

Wut?

>>136360219
If the queen did voice here opinion surely it would lead to parliament taking away the rest of her power because they would be afraid that she could eventually start trying to change things

>>136360124
People already can make their own decisions in our gendered world, and that's fine by me. What I don't agree with is a conscious and forceful effort to destroy gender as an idea.

>>136360124
Gender neutral propaganda is bad though because it creates a stigma that its not okay to be how you are supposed to be ie, manly man, girly girl

>>136360381
Your utopia is a stagnant world where new ideas should be squashed so that people can make their own decisions.

A massive contradiction because silencing every argument you dont agree with is not how people make whole-decisions.

Let gender-neutral come into the world and then people can decide for themselves whether theyll be GN or not.

Does any one else wank more than usual when badly hungover?

ARSENAL
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>>136354769
What's a good introductory book to constitutional law?

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Too late for all this nonsense down here, I can't think straight at 1am. Night lads. ;)

>>136354869
>I trust people in Brussels more
I don't trust them much less to be fair.

>>136360817

Intro to Constitutional Law 3rd Edition, Macmillan Press.

Honestly Anonymouses!

>>136360886
Stap yourself into bed so you don't fall off x

>>136360886
It was piss easy for me, you dismantled your own argument you colonial pleb.

>>136360886
Sleep tight, mind the bed spiders don't bite

>>136360496
You're putting words in my mouth sweetie. xx

>>136356009
Becoming more like the Yanks is never and will never be an acceptable answer.

>>136361116
I quoted you directly, actually.

>>136360886
goodnight senpai

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>>136355626
>guy is posing with trophy kills
u wot m8?

http://www.today.com/slideshow/lion-whisperer-29719940

>>136356292
You've just made a strong argument for bringing back duelling desu.

>>136359941

This is where you must live

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.8008237,-1.5449243,3a,75y,247.72h,123.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxcGe25kzBbp1zhxljyBi-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

>>136361331
Can we doxx him?

>>136361331

Close, nearer the gay bars than that.

South park season 21 starts this month lads

>>136361409
>>136361416


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7953067,-1.5410492,3a,75y,301.14h,119.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLlDj03YHEW6l3iYE3XQVOQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

My first instinct was that, but then I found another block with more flats

>>136361306
A duel is a contractual agreement between two consenting adults to fight to the death at an agreed time - nothing illegal about it.

Only reason it was outlawed, is that the Government doesn't want it's tax revenue generating assets to get terminated, hence if you kill someone, you get "charged", much like you would a bill for incurring someone a cost by damaging their property. (And by virtue of having a Birth Certificate with a Nation, you are chattel asset to them)

>>136361542

Nice.

>>136361416
Why doesn't that surprise me? That pink dressing gown is starting to make more sense!

>>136361542
Stopped being good when they introduced plots that last a season

>>136354500
>>136354630
>>136354638
>>136357011

>Brit/pol/
>Krauts, Frogs and prisoners

what has this world come to

>>136361544
I don't live in Liverpool or a flat

>>136361677
Yeah i didn't really like how they did that but it was still decently funny and showed how retarded burger land is

>>136361544
I'm going to go down there and wait outside until I spot him. I bet I spot him.

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>The Chad march on Rome vs The virgin Munich beer hall putsch

Totally going to make this one

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>>136361542
>Season

WENGER IN

>>136361916
fuck off yardie

who here /drinking alone/ ?

>>136361903
I thought you wrote 'plot last season' did they add them before i dont remember what happened before the pc principal ones

>>136354642
Another:
''We could have cut immigration from within the EU!''
They would have never allowed us to do this

>>136361976
Since Thursday night. Feel sick now.

>>136361976
Probably eddie

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>>136361976
>watching Chelsea crush and burn

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>>136354040
>tfw someone could have posted "PizzaGate" related facts and reignited the fire.

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>Just remembered the time I went to see Oasis at the Etihad in 2005
>Everyone was smashed before the band had even got on stage, people were smuggling in whisky, vodka, tequila and other shit
>Police were on site to confiscate alcohol from teenagers but their bags of drink kept being raided by the audience so they eventually gave up
>The moment Oasis greeted the crowd, it turned into Hillsborough
>Only took one song until the barrier at the front was breached by moshing cunts
>They had to stop playing and Noel told everyone off for it
>After a couple of minutes they got back to performing and started doing their harder songs
>Beer bottles were being flung in all directions by drunk teenagers
>Drunk people are pissing in their empty beer bottles and throwing them across the crowd
>Everyone is being showered in beer, piss and spirits but are too drunk to notice
>Security begin restraining people bringing drugs into the crowd
>Whole bunch of fans passed out on the stand covered in their own vomit
>Fights broke out between football hooligans because football and Oasis go hand in hand for some fucking reason
>You could tell Noel just wanted to get it over with
>Couldn't hear Liam over the tone-deaf screeching of 60,000 lager louts
>Once it had finished, the entire floor was a wreck
>Had to carefully walk around all the broken bottles, piss and vomit

MANCHESTAH

>>136362095
Replace the kentucky rifle with the French flag, son...

>>136362095
No one in the uk has the slightest clue what pizzagate is burger

>>136360219
I think you must be getting something mixed up Eddie.

I asked why she can't voice her opinion, you said parliament is sovereign.

What does parliament have to do with all of this other than passing legislation against the Queen?

>>136360954
Cheers, looking for something to sink my teeth in to.

Struggling to find it after a quick Google though.

>>136360817
Precedent means whatever I want it to, 3rd edition. Author: Tripfag, Eddie

Is this still going on?

>>136362482
Didn't you grasp how utterly fucking retarded you are a few hours ago?

Poor old Eddie.

>>136362383
Try this
https://muse.jhu.edu/book/21622

>>136362531
Don't know what conversation you were reading lad, but I asked Eddie to cite something as precedent, and he couldn't.

He assumes that because the Queen hasn't voiced her opinion, she can't. He has no precedent for this belief, he just believes it and claims he has precedent for it, yet doesn't provide any former judicial rulings.

He's a retard through and through

>>136362698
I was reading our ""conversation"" aka the one where you didn't know what the fuck precedent in law was 2 hours ago, and now you're parading around as some sort of expert on the subject. As I remember too, you made a stupid point (that the Queen should have """opinions""") then when explained, obviously us thinking you meant something like Royal Assent or Queen's consent, changed your point entirely to "the Queen should just have an opinion" - which hasn't been forbidden ever. In fact, as I remember, when I asked you to define what sort of opinion she should have, you should "strong opinions" as if that means fuck all.

A guy from gumtree was meant to show up an hour ago to buy something from me

He still hasn't arrived
Hasn't arrived to my text asking if he is coming either

Is he going to come lads ?

>>136360954
You mean this:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/introduction-to-the-study-of-the-law-of-the-constitution/oclc/891969454?referer=di&ht=edition

>>136362383

Bagehot - The English Constitution

Lifting is for benders

>>136362865
>Hasn't arrived to my text asking if he is coming

He hasn't arrived to your text?

>>136362890
That's not even the real Eddie. The trip is different but yes. A.V Dicey, Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution, Edward Coke's the Institutions of England, William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, are a few.

>>136362856
He thinks all precedent is set by case law. He's a lost cause.

>>136363005
Replied
Damn

>>136363039
I'm surprised the topic lasted this long.

>>136362856
So I'm correct, and Eddie's a mong?

All I ever said was the Queen should use her position as a public figure to voice her opinions. Eddie insisted she couldn't.

Not my fault you lads can't read what's in front of you, and just infer what you like from what I said.

>>136363039
Show me any principle that dictates the Queen can't voice her opinion.

If you can't, I win.

>>136363099
I don't think he's coming, lad, but I could be wrong.

>>136363180
You danced around the point and didn't give a clear definition of what you wanted.

>All I ever said was the Queen should use her position as a public figure to voice her opinions
The Queen already does this so surely I can be forgiven for thinking that was a shitty point and thinking you were implying something like Assent.

>>136363253
Smash whatever you were going to sell him, text him a photo along with 'fuck you reeeeeeeee'

>>136363307
I said she should do it more overtly and forcefully.

Eddie still insists she can't.

Also, all legal precedent is set by case law, or principles derived from case law judgements.

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>>136363240
u win champ

>>136363445
>overtly and forcefully.
She can't do this. Precedent. Since the Act of Union 1707 Royal influence has been especially despised in public assemblies, not to mention its simply not what any recent monarch has done. And topics like immigration that are especially heated, I don't think you'll ever see a Royal opinion on. The Church of England's role in our constitution was something she spoke in favour of not too long ago though, to give an actual example - something you failed to do.

>black jebus jevohah and white guy witness comes up to me
>"of god were here what would you ask him?"
>"dude I'm just waiting for a bus"
>hungover and still slightly stoned from last night, don't have time for this
>they go away

Hitchens tell your pets to fuck off

>>136363307
What exactly are you expecting here?

>and finally, to close my Christmas speech for this year, I'd just like to say GTKRWN.

>>136363445
>Also, all legal precedent is set by case law, or principles derived from case law judgements.
Also, no, it isn't necessarily set by case law.

>>136362865
What you selling?

>>136363602
Nah M8 show uz da law dat sez it's president cunt or itz nt reel innit

>>136362134
Fuck alternative. No community.
Why the fuck are people even moshing to Oasis?

>>136363602
>Since the Act of Union 1707 Royal influence has been especially despised in public assemblies, not to mention its simply not what any recent monarch has done. And topics like immigration that are especially heated, I don't think you'll ever see a Royal opinion on.

Right, but there's no law against it. Just because it's unpopular doesn't mean it can't happen.

>>136363678
Unironically don't see how this isn't the case. If there's no law against it, or any judgement that indicates the Monarch can't do it, why can't she?

>>136363757
U tel im M8 hez a rtard innit cuz itz nt a riten law Lel wotta kunt.

>>136363636
That's what case law is, legal precedents

>>136363757
It means there's an extremely, mind boggling chance that it'll never happen in our lifetimes though. The Queen could theoretically prorogue or dissolve parliament today and fire the PM, but she isn't going to here in reality.

>>136363654
A promise that he can marry my first born child

>>136363829
Ye das rite M8 we Napoleonic civil law state innit Bruv

>>136363858
Precedent is set by tradition too, such as the example given in this topic. What is your point? I already knew that.

>>136363872
Is /=/ ought

>>136363909
So you concede there is no law against her doing it?

>>136362134

I knew a girl from Manchester years ago.

She was short, and fat as she was tall. She was 21 but already had kidney stones removed and some kind of bladder stint installed in her. She was supposed to avoid dairy because it caused calcium deposits, but she would drink tea and coffee half and half with milk anyway, to cool it down because she was too retarded to wait for it to cool. She would also eat pasta and add cheese til it was 50% cheese. She used to smoke all the time and was just a complete piece of shit. She once pretended to need an ambulance and went to the hospital with nothing wrong with her.

>>136364051
There's precedence that she won't. It's you not understanding what precedence is that's caused this.

>>136363636
thothgert

>>136364051
Obvs M8 ders no code dat sez it rite Ur totez clevz

>>136364116
>there is precedence that she won't

So what? Why do you care so much about fucking precedence?

>>136364161
You joke, but I'm unironically right.

There is nothing to say she shouldn't, other than, "well, that's the way things are..."

>>136364242
U tel im M8 presidents are American LELELELELEL not brittish

>>136364242
>Why do you care so much about fucking precedence?
It's statements precisely like this which has caused this argument. It's not that I, personally, am wanking off over this idea of legal precedence and stating it over and over just for the fun of it. It's that you don't understand the significance of it in our system which is uncodified, meaning we don't have a series of entrenched laws that govern us.

>>136364090
>nothing wrong with her
That's hilarious though
https://youtu.be/m2O78U-SM58

>>136364126
>>136364126
>>136364126

NEW

>>136364126
>>136364126
>>136364126


NEW

>>136364126
>>136364126
>>136364126

>>136364344
I understand why previous rulings inform future ones, but to me it seems utterly stupid that the Queen should be forbidden from voicing her opinion forcefully just because she hasn't done so before.

How stupid is that?

Absolutely retarded system, if that's how it works.

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If you haven't crossed this bridge on a locomotive you aren't British.

>>136364481
>not Tyneside

Fuck off you tripnonce

>>136364460
>Absolutely retarded system, if that's how it works.
Alright. You've finally grasped it. It is utterly retarded. Do you know what I meant about why 1688 was a bad thing now and will you stop talking about rubbish?

>>136363965
What does Hume's Guillotine have to do with this? It seems like you're in over your head.

>>136364566
Precedent seems to be something you follow voluntarily though. That's not what "law" is.

>>136364614
>Hume's Guillotine

Ooh lala

All I said was an is is not an ought.

>>136364735
The legal name is stare decisis

>>136364817
No it's not.

>>136364963
Are you just trying to say the most utterly retarded things you can now you've been proven wrong several times so you can turn around and pretend it was all bait?

>>136365043
No, I'm telling the truth.

The Latin shit youwrote is to do with following case law

>>136365205
Its judical precedence you utter fucking brainlet.

>>136364735
>>136364460
3 types of precedent. Precedent set in a higher court is usually binding on a lower

Original precedent
Original precedent arises where the point of law in the case before the court has never been considered before and there has been no previous judicial decision on it. In such cases, the judge must use his or her own discretion in reaching a final judgment. They will generally adopt an approach known as reasoning by analogy, whereby they will looks at cases which involve a similar principle to the one they are dealing with and apply similar rules.

Binding precedent
Binding precedent is ‘normal’ precedent. It requires a court to follow a previous court decision made in a previous case in the same way. For a precedent to be binding on a judge in a later case, the material facts of the two cases must be similar. The precedent is only binding on courts lower or equal to the court where the precedent was made.

Persuasive precedent
Persuasive precedent is where a lower court makes a decision and a higher court can or may be allowed to use the precedent or decision, but they are not legally obliged to. There have been cases where lawyers will bring up evidence to show that the material facts of their case was the same as a decision made in an inferior court. It is up to the judge to decide if the case is sufficiently similar to allow them to take the merits of the case into consideration when they are making their judgment.

>>136365337
Which is following prior judicial decisions, you utter mongoloid.

Give me principles from a prior judicial decision that states the Queen cannot voice her opinion.

>>136363872
Who ever is in power next might feel like they should though

>>136364090
Why didnt she use a bit of cold water instead of having half milk what a spaz

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>>136362232
>"No one in the uk has the slightest clue what pizzagate is burger"
>Union Jack Flag
Checks out?