wtf im a democrat now

>>135179317

give me one reason why a right winger who isnt a member of the global elite/illuminati would oppose this

99% tax for those reptileniggers

>>135179317
Most republicans are now aware that the majority of the one percent are ultra liberals so nobody has a problem taxing ultra liberals.

>>135179317
>wtf im a democrat now
how?
you believe that the rich should be taxed more?
that's retarded.

what we need is smaller government, not more money pumped into the big fat piece of shit we have now.

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Where are the "why do conservatives vote against their economic interests" faggots now?

Also, what the fuck captcha

when it's time to liquidate assets.

>>135179514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6HEH23W_bM
Everyone should pay the same percentage in tax.

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It's only for $5million/year or more that'll be taxed higher

My dad only makes $1.5million so my inheritance is safe

>>135180974
>givign me prager U links
get the fuck out of here you pea brained ape

>>135181220
PragerU has some good videos.. Why would you discard the video prehand, because you dislike some of the other materials that they have produced?

>>135181409
because a 4 minute video made by those braindead christcucks isnt going to be anything more complex than BA BA BOO BOO WHY DA HARD WORKERS GOTTA PAY FOR DA LAZYBOYS maybe in some utopian objectivist capitalism sure but the markets we live in are a rigged game with coorporate-govt. conglomorates at the top of the heap using every trick in the book to hold their ground.

>>135179317
Its a big nothing, anon.
Most people who make more than 5 million a year aren't getting that money from a wage or a salary, they are getting that money from capital gains, a tax which they will probably slash the first chance they get.
Anyone with a salary above 5m (top level execs and CEOs only) will just switch their compensation packages to partially include stock options etc.

When Bannon or Trump start talking about increasing capital gains tax I will start believing they have a tax-the-rich-more agenda.

>>135179317
>the administration does something liberals should like
>"Shit! Instead of being happy about this I need to rush to 4chan to sow division amongst his supporters."

Derangement.

>>135181871
You are commenting on the potential content of a 4 min video you didnt see..
Just watch it, you might learn something i.e. change your mind.

>>135180138
I don't believe it was a serious comment he was making but by all means I think you should continue for the edification of everybody in this thread

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>>135179317
>Bezos, Buffet, Soros, and Gates will all have to pay another 5% of their unlimited incomes.

WTF I LOVE THE 1% NOW

>>135179317
How is r/The_Donald reacting?

>>135179317
Lol he basically nazi. Lefties have been right on this one.

/ourfuckingguy/

>>135179317

>pay more to fuck yourselves gloablist traitors

I like Bannon now.

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>>135179317

So he's a nationalist and a socialist. If only there was a word for this.

But don't worry, the left will be here to explain how this is actually an evil right wing capitalist racist conspiracy and how we shouldn't raise those taxes after all.

Just open the borders and flood the countries with more workers to undercut everyone. That's how you do leftism in 2017. Fuck workers, they're racist. Just go on the dole man.

????????????

>>135179317
the thing is, this runs contrary to what plebs want to hear, but the way it should be run is that you tax the middle class and the "poor", and then leave the top 10% or so with their megabucks.

you do this because what happens is that money invariably gets invested, new jobs and opportunities arise for everyone, and the quality of life for the lowest and middle classes becomes markedly improved.

but some people can't deal with that, and they look to the people who are creating that high quality of life and try to vilify them. this leads to socialism, which invariably leads to poverty (note countries that libs refer to as "socialist" like sweden aren't actually "socialist", they actually use the model i am describing to finance their massive social welfare programs and do it to reasonable success)

bannon is a very smart dude, and obviously one of /ourguys/. i don't know what his reasoning is, and trump too has said in his campaign that he doesn't mind paying more taxes and thinks the wealthy should maybe be taxed more, but at the end of the day, from all reports and by all measures, it does seem as though this administrations plan is to lower taxes across to the board.

so woo hoo, "steve bannon said a thing, lets make it national news". whatever, just a waste of time.

>>135182455
They wont pay anything additional.. I'm not saying this from a tinfoil stance.
There is tax-loops, meaning you wont have to be tax on the money you donate to charity for instance.
Last year Buffet paid 17 million or so in taxes, because he earned 30-50 million. His actual earnings was in the billions, but he donated it all to Bill and Melissa Gates foundation.

Do Soros pay taxes? no he donate it all to various charities, so does everyone else among the wealthy.

I wont go into speculations about the nature of charities.. i think Hillary Clintons charities are a nice example about the strange nature of these charities.

>>135183356
>There is tax-loops, meaning you wont have to be tax on the money you donate to charity for instance.
it's true that there are ways this could be done so that it's only taxing hoarders, which wouldn't be bad, and leaving the people who reinvest their money into the economy (which is vital for EVERYONES prosperity) with their stacks of cash

Good, I have no problems with the kikes in the 5 million dollar income bracket getting a tax hike. This is different than the typical bullshit that the liberals and democrats pull, where when they talk about "making the rich pay their fair share" they're actually talking about the upper-middle-class people who are trying their best to run mom and pop shops and small businesses.

It also needs to be coupled with restrictions on companies leaving America and going overseas for better tax plans, however. And Bannon has said as much.

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>>135183356
>Do Soros pay taxes? no he donate it all to various charities, so does everyone else among the wealthy.
>I wont go into speculations about the nature of charities..

Why not? It's well known it's the best way to keep and transfer wealth due to the deductible """"chartitable"""" nature.

What you do is you put a billion in a "do good" fund that does nothing. That money is allowed to be invested and grow, for the good of the fund. Appoint yourself part of the board of directors for the fund and pay yourself handsomely from the money. You need to pay taxes on this part, but don't worry, whatever you pay yourself - the fund has grown by millions in the meantime.

Just by having a giant deductable from your taxes you've earned millions, but you never lost the money you "gave away" because you own and operate the charity.

Just give out some tshirts to starving africans every once in a while and you'll be lauded by the poor and middle class as a paragon of the elite for "doing so much". I can only imagine the 0.1% jerk off frequently to receiving this praise from the dumb masses for a giant tax scam.

Maybe as much as they laugh themselves silly over having stupid goyim going to look at """art""" they're creating money out of thin air by overvaluing, insuring and then "donating".

When the people let themselves be fooled this easily is it any wonder the only entertainment you can find in life is raping and eating children?

>>135179317
WTF i love bannon nao

>>135183356
Source on Warren Buffet paying a tax on 0.0001% or so, on his actual earnings.
From 41.15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irHgknaS2jA
The debate is not that great btw..

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>>135184033
Trump really needs to wield the IRS against these turbo kikes and their NGO puppets. Everything from the Clinton Foundation to the SPLC to the ADL to the Open Society Foundation all count as tax-exempt charities under 501(c)3 status, even though they're all clearly in fucking violation of this by being explicitly political organizations used as slush funds and other nefarious shit.

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>>135179317
become a libertarian or a (((((((((((((((((green))))))))))))))))))))))

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>>135179514

>>135179317
The truly wealthy don't pay income tax.

>>135180974
hilarious coming from probably the most all-round successful countries where the high taxes for the rich and low taxes for the poor have given you one of the strongest middle classes in the world

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>>135179733
Checked. I agree. If you have that much fucking money then the world won't end if Cuckerberg or Bezos gets a few more mil. taxed from them.

>>135180974
>(((prager U)))

We all know damn well that the rich don't actually pay the nominal tax level. We effectively have a regressive tax system, where the rich actually pay proportionately less than the middle class. With the right restrictions in place, a tax hike on the super-rich kikes would be perfectly fine.

25% should be the limit

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>>135184681
>one of the strongest middle classes

This is the key my friend. The middle class is the only producing class. The elites are parasites who use monetary systems to squeeze money out of the middle class. The poor are dumb wageslaves and welfare parasites who scream out for more constantly.

The big carrot in life is advancing to the top of the pile where you get to exploit the rest with capital, but the overwhelming majority don't have a fucking chance getting there. 90% or more of generational wealth is inherited in one form or another.

You can make it up to the middle class. Like how poor people think being a doctor is sunshine and roses. But in reality doctors work their asses off for a slice of upper middle class life and then in turn support parasites on their wages from both sides.

Even worse are the self-righteous cunts who go into trades and make bundles and think they cheated the system without realizing they don't have the skills to invest or use capital. All they are is another rat to squeeze with their work earnings and GDP growth production.

People really deserve their fate.

You don't have any cards, they've spent more than a century setting this system up. They're mass importing immigrants to deal with the coming riots when people finally realize they don't even need the working class anymore. Stupid as they are the people will turn on the imported third worlders instead of the elites that stole everything and then opened the flood gates.

You see it here on /pol/ too.

>>135184969
>where the rich actually pay proportionately less than the middle class.
my question to you is why do you think this is bad? taxing the rich leads to economic stagnation and no growth or opportunity for anyone.

are the middle class producing jobs? no. not really. all the middle class does with their money is spend at corporations and go into debt that is far higher risk than the upper classes debt (hello housing crisis of 2008).

wealth inequality works. wealth inequality raises the standard of living for EVERYONE, this is literally economics 101. everytime people try to "fix the wealth inequality" they end up within a generation starving their own citizenry. literally. like that's both a historical constant and something that's still playing out in the world today. so why shouldn't the wealthy be taxed far less than the middle class?

>>135185602
t. shlomo. The people in the 5 million dollar bracket are all leftist turbokikes who are doing everything they can to kill us with immigration, middle class taxes, and wars for israel. Fuck them. We should be trying to support the upper-middle-class and allow more people the chance to become small business owners via deregulation and tax cuts for normal citizens. The kikes can fuck off and go to hell.

/pol/ is sadly kind of confused about whether libertarian "Taxes are theft!" ideology is "/pol/ or not."

I respect libertarians a lot, especially their underlying values. I really fucking do. But at the end of the day, if you're a nationalist of any kind, you're either a welfare state nationalist or a balls-to-the-wall capitalist nationalist.

Welfare state sounds like it means everyone should be a fucking pussy. What it really means is that, like many European countries, everyone should have access to the same amenities and education so that a gigantic cancerous rich cocksucker upper class doesn't develop that gives no fucks about the country itself, and sees itself as something SEPARATE from the nation. The idea of nationalism only really works if you don't have massive, wealthy in-groups inside the nation who could give less than a shit about it as a whole.

We've tried low-tax, trickle-down economics. It doesn't work. That's what Reagan and the Neocons tried, and they were just a business party of rich faggots. But what should make you even angrier than the ultra-rich bankers, if you're a /pol/fag, is the upper 5-10% of "fairly rich" guys who simply evade 75% of their taxes using scams that EVERYONE uses (note: Trump referenced these). The ultra-rich, of course, pay almost no taxes at all.

Like I said, at the end of the day, you're either a nationalist and a (mild) socialist, or a nationalist and a capitalist. In a properly functioning society, nationalist sentiment would simply be high enough that rich assholes didn't become completely independent multi-national bankers the instant they became rich. But we don't have culture strong enough for that. At least not yet. Until then, we need some way of preventing the super rich from stealing all the fucking money. That's not anti-capitalism, it's not anti-liberty, it's just a fact of life.

Anti-tax rhetoric is a leftover from the Neocons.

>>135185602
>why shouldn't the wealthy be taxed far less than the middle class?
Because it will distort a free market competition. If early Facebook would have to outcompete Arto while they paid taxes and Arto did not, then the competition would be inhibited.
To ensure maximal competitive environment, then everyone should pay the same %. Otherwise you end up subsidizing older, established companies, and punish new - but potentially superior, companies.

>>135185944
dude you just say "fuck the kikes" and don't make any economic argument whatsoever. if you tax people based on what you think is "fair" or what you personally want to see happen, rather than economic policy, then you're going to see everyone starve, and even your "upper middle class". like wth isn't that just common sense?

also not that it's even relevant but it's not all leftists and certainly not all joos in the 5 million plus bracket, maybe when you talk about the super rich, but not at that point, no, it's a lot of capitalists, right-wingers, AMERICANS and industrialists. those are primary JOBS providers.

more importantly though is the first point which is if you start going all MARX and just say "these are people i don't like so we're gonna have the government take their money" you're gonna end up starving and fucked over just like MARX and every country that has ever tried to implement his or any sort of socialist ideas

>>135179317
If Trump do it, take for granted that the average joe will vote for him. 8 years or 16.

>>135186596
They're not helping our job situation. They're sucking up our money, lobbying for things that exclusively help themselves out, and then running off to china and india and/or replacing us with immigrant labor anyway just to save a couple extra bucks. Giving them lower taxes doesn't magically make them altruistic and change their stance to "you know what, I think we should stop fucking over people by replacing their labor with outsourcing/immigrants"


>but not at that point, no, it's a lot of capitalists, right-wingers, AMERICANS and industrialists. those are primary JOBS providers.
Oh wow shmuel, you really make me want to fly my fucking american flag and go full burger patriotard. That shit might have worked on boomer neocon retards, but not anymore.

I'm not a marxist. I'm a tribalist. I'll do whatever it takes to suppress the power of those that are trying to kill us off.

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Tax me more. I make 190K a year and I'm not nearly taxed enough.

>>135179317
Bannon gets better and better. I'd kiss this guy if I could. Only redeeming person in the whole American government.

to be honest I'd rather have higher taxes than tons of debt

if we're serious about raising money then we have to tax the rich more since nobody else can contribute anything meaningful

the best solution would be to cut spending though

>>135186512
>Because it will distort a free market competition.
this is half true but there are two points which make it non relevant 1) if free market competition is the issue, the main obstacle is government regulation. so why not focus on repealing that instead? because once regulation is repealed then even with different tax rates competition can thrive and you can actually have the best of both worlds and 2) it doesn't really distort competition since people need to work for their original capitol and when the economy thrives (because of the spending of the richest 1%) everyone pads their bank account and can start a business of their own if they so choose.

you're just trying to put the blame on low tax rates for the rich when it's like 1% of the problem and regulation is 99% of the problem and then trying to invoke "the free market" as a platitude rather than a sound economic strategy.

your prescription would fucking decimate the economy and lead to poverty in the US or anywhere that tried to implement such a policy

>>135187249
what do you do

>>135187357
Airline pilot

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>>135187412
making 190K a year? bullshit. I heard you guys make something like 50, 60K.

>>135187147
>They're not helping our job situation. They're sucking up our money, lobbying for things that exclusively help themselves out, and then running off to china and india and/or replacing us with immigrant labor anyway just to save a couple extra bucks.
but this is a question of OTHER political policies, not THIS political policy. you aren't making an economic argument, you're saying "i hate joos so tax the rich" and then totally refusing to even acknowledge all of the economic hell, chaos and depression that would cause.

also i agree with you that joos are the biggest problem in our society today, but you're if you think the majority of people in the over 5 million bracket are joos. that is factually untrue. again, when you talk about the super rich and the super influential academically, politically, banks, ect) then joos become a big factor. but the group you are talking about is primarily white american or WASP.

and either way you can't tax job creators just because they're jooish, that would still cause economic chaos and lead to poverty for everyone WTF.

pls respond with a fucking economic argument if you're going to (even though there isn't one because this is economics 101) rather than "bu bu bu but i hate da joos!"

>>135185602
The middle class do produce jobs when they have money to buy shit. This idea that if you give a really rich guy an extra million he'll immediately throw it back into the economy is dumb.

>>135187812

You heard that? From who? Some regional airline pilots make that much starting out (first year pay) I've been in the industry since 2008 and am at a mainline legacy carrier... captains at this airline top out over 350K

>>135187304
>you're just trying to put the blame on low tax rates for the rich when it's like 1% of the problem and regulation is 99% of the problem and then trying to invoke "the free market" as a platitude rather than a sound economic strategy.
The regulation and tax loops, are obviously insane.. But i think my comment about a reverse-progressive tax distorting the free market is sound.
Many of the successful companies today, those which have outcompeted rivals, started as small companies, but with a superior product or strategy managed to succeed.
If they have to pay taxes, while their competitor does not, they have a diminished ability to compete.
Regardless of regulation and other problems that are the "primary problem", a reverse-progressive tax rate is not a superior tax system to a flat-tax system.

>>135180974
>Everyone should pay the same percentage in tax.

They have more property to lose, so they should be more invested in funding the police, social services, etc. Which is why progressive income tax is the only way (unless the gov nationalizes production of psychoactive drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and anything that is harmful to the individual, only to fuck up those industries utterly)

>>135187895
except thats literally how economics works. it's literally how western capitalism has always functions and how you managed to be born into the place with the highest standard of living of any place in history, where even the poorest of the poor, for the most part, have full plates of food and fucking iPhones while they run around and ignorantly bitch about "muh wealth inequality" and "muh taxes on da rich"

"I am very wealthy, I have the best money," the President was quoted at press time. "I want to help other people get the best money too."

>>135179317
tactically this is pure gold. btfo the narrative on trump's taxes and republicans being the party of the rich and force the dems to either get in line behind the president or explain why they are voting against the policies they claim (lying fucks) to support.

This is an actual tax increase on the rich. Dem taxes increases for the past 20 years have been tax increases on the middle class, not the rich.

Even that cock sucker Reagan raised taxes on the middle class (social security payroll) while cutting taxes for the rich.

>>135179317
The top 1% is 45% Jewish. Tax them into bankruptcy for all I care.

>>135188147
Weird how after the Bush tax cuts we went into one of the biggest recessions in our nation's history. I mean we cut taxes, things should have just kept growing!

>>135187832
>also i agree with you that joos are the biggest problem in our society today, but you're if you think the majority of people in the over 5 million bracket are joos. that is factually untrue. again, when you talk about the super rich and the super influential academically, politically, banks, ect) then joos become a big factor. but the group you are talking about is primarily white american or WASP.

Nice try, shlomo. This is factually untrue. Not to mention that most of those WASPs are shabbos goyim traitors, along the lines of David Rockefeller.

>>135180974
>Everyone should pay the same percentage in tax.
sure. 0 income tax. equal tax on assets would be fine.

>>135188067
>But i think my comment about a reverse-progressive tax distorting the free market is sound.
invoking the free market is no argument when you do it as a platitude. the free market isn't a moral principle that you can just invoke and say "bu bu bu but muh free market" when there's no practical or concrete negative effect to point to, and especially when there is CATASTROPHIC practical, concrete effects to point to for taxing the rich more or even at a flat rate with everyone else.

the place where people get away with invoking "the free market" is when they're referencing THE POWER OF the free market. and in this case, this is relevant, because deregulation leads to plenty of competition to curb the issues you're discussing. this isn't theoretical. this is something that happens and is observable in our current system. that's why we shouldn't even be having this discussion to begin with

this isn't a fucking philosophy debate, jesus, this is economics and you have to consider the real world implications of what you're suggesting and what those implications are is poverty for all. thanks kid but your irrational hatred of the rich is gonna screw us all

>>135179733
>use race baiting tactics to divert away from class warfare mentality and replace it with race war mentality
>accidentally guide everyone closer to the former
Whoops

>>135188387
I question how many that are actual Jews, and how many whom are crypto-jews.
Most of them are Jews by a one-drop rule.. Take Ivanka, is she a Jew? Yes would be the answer, she would be one of the Jews in the top 1%.

>>135179317
Sounds anti-Semitic.

>>135180493
>being this new

>>135188440
The cuts prevented a DEEPER recession. Without the cuts, we probably would have suffered a complete economic collapse. The government ADDS nothing to the economy. It only takes. ITs choices are either to hurt the economy a little with low taxes, or hurt it a lot, with high taxes.

>>135188440
high risk debt from the middle class is what caused it. no? also this is an oversimplification of economic policy. economics always has to be holistic and look at the whole. i'm not here to defend GWB, i'm not a fan of neocons, but it's kind of stupid and ignorant to just say "but look this one thing happened and then this other thing happened so boom, connection!" and those taxes were NOT raised on the middle class, which is what i've suggested

however the truth is that was a big bubble that had to burst no matter what, so any discussion of this is just moot altogether as far as anyone who knows what they're talking about is concerned

>>135179317
BANNON IS NAZBOL! EAT THE RICH! GAS THE KIKES! RACE AND CLASS WAR NOW!

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>>135186302
>a gigantic cancerous rich cocksucker upper class is bad
>somehow, more socialism prevents this from happening

The EU is riddled with countries with leaders like this, with Macron being the poster child of them because socialism creates an even sharper division between classes. That "balls to the wall" type capitalism you speak of actually dampens that somewhat in comparison.

>>135189050
>>135188440
like just to expand a little more on this, what happened was that things were so good for long (before GWB ever went into office) that people were making bullshit loans to people who couldn't pay them back. it was a bubble that grew and grew and grew until it was a fucking monster and finally it popped. it would have popped no matter what tax policy was implemented, the two were totally unrelated man. i didn't like GWB but you really can't look at his tax policy and say "that caused the sub prime mortgage crisis" like wtf haha

>>135179317
i''d really love to find out how many on nu/pol/ would consider themselves legit republicans because prior to the reddit influx it was pretty much 0% you were basically a third position(natsoc along those lines) or libertarian. Now we have people who really do believe that /pol/ is some kind of republican stronghold

Saint Bannon?

>>135179733
why exactly has it taken you them so long? I think its all bullshit.

>>135188773
Its the same thing with Jews.

>>135180138
I believe the government should work for the people and only its native people (white) a national socialist nation if you will.

>>135179317
I'm an actual Nationalist SOCIALIST so yeah...I approve of what Bannon is doing.

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>>135188773
>(((everyone)))

Fixed that for you, anon

>>135188656
I specifically mention the impact of a company would have to compete with another for the same market, but one company pays taxes and the other does not.
This is an unfair advanteges, which may lead to superior products, cannot outcompete inferior products, because they have to pay taxes while their competitor are exempt.

Let me make an example. You start an ice-cream factory (you are making ice cream), and sell it to the super market. You have to pay taxes, the other ice cream manufactors like Ben and Jerry does not have to pay taxes - because they are rich. Your product may be better for the money than Ben and Jerrys, but because you have to pay taxes, you will have to sell it alot more expensive.
This principle touch on the entire economy.. you will get a lack of innovation, of new companies whom rise up and succeed. You will get a relative poorer society.

>>135189212
you have no clue what the fuck the difference natsoc and nazbol is do you?

>>135179317
One of the things I hated about Trump was his shitty tax policy. They don't deserve to keep their money so they can keep pushing degeneracy around the world. They should be taxed a shit ton more than that tbqh

>>135189036
So why not just eliminate taxes altogether for rich people? If some minor cuts supposedly make it grow some huge cuts would make it grow even bigger!

>>135188653
>deter people from building capital
no

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>>135183262
>the way it should be run is that you tax the middle class and the "poor", and then leave the top 10% or so with their megabucks.
>you do this because what happens is that money invariably gets invested, new jobs and opportunities arise for everyone, and the quality of life for the lowest and middle classes becomes markedly improved.

I wonder who could be behind this post

I'm honestly OK with this. Not some bullshit 90% like Dems want meant to punish the rich, just a modest increase to do what taxes were meant to do: Fund the government and offset cuts elsewhere.

I'm sure people will flip their shit and this won't go through, though. We'll just cut taxes for everyone and deficits and the debt will continue to grow. Hardly anybody at the federal level cares about responsible and sustainable governance.

>>135189958
So you get to decide what is theirs now?

>>135189938
I want Stalinist Communism without blacks and Jews but still with Asians. This is not natsoc.

>>135179317

The wealthy know they had better pay more or risk having hordes of poor people flood their homes like teenage blacks flood malls

option A - keep most of your $$ and survive
option B - horde money like a psycho and face the wrath of millions of angry poor people

>>135189050
I would argue banks and financial institutions (and their insurers) over-leveraging themselves had a bigger role.

I agree it's an oversimplification but I think people who assume cutting rich people's taxes will magically grow the economy is an oversimplification.

>>135183262
>muh trickledown
>muh reaganomics
die. Seriously kys.

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>>135190251
>Hardly anybody at the federal level cares about responsible and sustainable governance.

Daddy Bannon does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BSrJv0IpHY

>>135181992
It is a big deal because them changing their compensation to that means they will work harder to satisfy shareholders and increase price per share. Take for example stock ticket CYTR. Damn near a cure for cancer in FDA pipeline and the CEO is fucking screwing shareholders. We are sitting at .58 a share. Increase his holdings and force him to take options sooner and it'll be a different story. It still matters

>>135190334
Kill yourself

>>135190558
The CEO keeps diluting shares to raise money for his bonuses. Put his compensation more in shares and that behavior ends.

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>>135179317
Ike did 90%
Ike made the highway that made America great.
Ike was against the Jewish advancements in creating a war economy for the USA

> the jews got to congressmen,and sentors with happy voters by partitioning all war machine per state.

>>135180974
>hurr durr regressive flat income tax is good!
jesus christ denmark i thought we americans were dumb

>>135179317
i dont really care if they get taxed or not, the bottom 50% need 0% taxes, that removes so much jewery by itself.

>unironically defending (((capitalism)))

Bannon is more conservative than every "I stand with Israel" cuckservative in government. I voted Trump and support him but I'd trade him for Bannon in a heartbeat.

>>135190698
>Ike did 90%
>mexican education

>>135179733
>the majority of the one percent are ultra liberals
Also half of the one percent are Jews. I sincerely doubt these are nationalistic Jews who plan to renounce the diaspora, stop the parasitic lifestyle, and move to their own country. No, they're pretty much all committed to ruling over the goyim.

its a good idea but what is wrong with his face jesus christ

>>135188656
To try and hammer home the point i made with the ice cream.
You start an Ice cream factory and I start an Ice cream factory. Our Ice cream are identical, the only difference is that you have designed your factory differently so the cost of production is 5% lower per gallon of ice cream produces compared to me. This mean you can sell your product cheaper, and thus outcompete me.
If im rich, then I dont have to pay taxes, and you are poor and you have to pay taxes. Then i could sell my cheaper than yours and still make the same profit per gallon, than you can, despite your product being superior.

He's smart. He knows the top 1% is 99% Jews so he can fuck the Jews and win favour at the same time. Not an easy thing to do when they control all the media. Bannon should have been president, he is smarter than, and has more resolve than Trump will ever have.

>>135190740
>regressive flat income tax
How is a flat income tax "regressive"?

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>>135190334
You are a retard.

>>135191028
you make this nifty theoretical, abstract argument here but again you're arguing the validity of something that is demonstrable and observable in the very "free market" that you invoke so warmly. it's like why am i sitting here and arguing about whether or not it's possible for people to compete and for competition to flourish when it's observable and testable and indisputable that in the absence of regulations it demonstrably does, regardless of the difference in tax rates??

>>135190306
No, sweetie, the government does, and I'll make sure to keep voting for people that keep taking their money from them and eliminate ways for them to dodge taxes.

>>135180974
only people with a degree in econ should be allowed to vote, i am just too tired of retards like you.
And i don't even have an econ degree.

>>135190740
>flat tax is regressive

I don't think you understand what "regressive" means

>>135191177
>How is a flat income tax "regressive"?
I explain it here >>135188111
(((They))) get more value out of the social services, hence flat tax actually GIVES (((them))) money, rather than taking it away from them. Which is why it's called "regressive"-not in the sense of mythical "social progress", but in the sense that burden gets lessened as you progress through the tax brackets.

>>135179317
Has any Democrat, talking head, or columnist come out against higher taxes on the rich yet?

>>135191586
No, he does, you don't
see >>135191811

>>135191028
>>135191503
the issue is that even though your ice cream analogy sounds good and sensible, the real world is far more complex than what is presented in your little post. because of that, in practice, these policies demonstrably work and people like you who approach this topic like it's a deep philosophical question, rather than one of "what works and what doesnt work" and "what will give our citizens the greatest on average quality of life" are the ones that screw us over

>>135179317
My dad looks exactly like Steve Bannon except he's older but looks younger and has slightly less rosacea.

>>135190825
https://www.jct.gov/publications.html?func=startdown&id=4233

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>>135191961
>My dad looks exactly like Steve Bannon except he's older but looks younger and has slightly less rosacea.
??? like so?

>>135190234
i literally want to deport joos, but that doesn't mean i'm not allowed to understand simple economics nor does it mean i have to support policies that would lead to mass poverty

>>135191998
>mexican education

>>135192095
no, he looks especially like Bannon around the eyes. He's had people stop him and ask him if he's Bannon. He's also not as grey.

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>>135179317
>ITT: A board that pretends to be redpilled on the jews remains intentionally ignorant to the fact that the current multinational corporations, CEOs, and shareholders are semitic as fuck and deserve to be taxed to fucking death

God help us.

>>135191503
>you make this nifty theoretical, abstract argument
I think we are going in circles.. I have attempted to make my concern on how a relative lower tax rate on the wealthy compared to the non-wealthy will effect the ability of smaller companies to compete with larger companies.
I came with a fairly good example (in my opinion).
I dont think you have disproven this concern.

>>135191548
>only people with a degree in econ should be allowed to vote
And nobody should be able to get a degree in econ unless they fully understand how the relationship of entropy/energy/time works, and how that relationship permeates literally everything economical

poof, suddenly there's a lot fewer bullshitters with Econ degrees

>>135192263
shame, I wish my dad was Radovan Karadzic

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Proof that the lefties don't engage their brains when they read anything about the Trump administration.

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>>135192113
With the proper economic policy and not your retarded trickle-down nonsense, the Jew will deport itself

>joos

First you have to name them, (((anon)))

>>135183262
If you actually believe in trickledown, you're a fucking moron.

It has been tried, and it doesn't work.

See: Kansas as the most recent example.

Educate yourself, you're being led around by the nose by the one percent, and you don't even know it. ..

>>135192417
>I came with a fairly good example (in my opinion).

i know it's a good example because it's oversimplified and the real world is extremely complex

>I dont think you have disproven this concern.

again i really don't need to disprove it with some abstract thought experiment when time and time again history and economics shows that with deregulation and different tax rates competition factually does thrive.

you can sit there and say "but you need to prove it" until you're blue in the face, it's like dude, no, this is how our fucking economy works and that's why corporations like comcast lobby the government to create regulations that end up giving them monopolies in the first place. they know without them they won't fucking succeed regardless of how much extra capital or tax breaks they get

don't get me wrong, we're talking about personal taxes here, not corporate taxes, which is another animal and which do have to be fair in order to create a "level playing field". but that's not what the OP is about dude. the OP and the issue we're discussing is about personal taxes.

>>135193429
>It has been tried, and it doesn't work.
it's literally the foundation for every western capitalist society that has provided you with the highest quality of life that any organism has ever experienced throughout history, where even when you're dirt poor you have food, nintendo and iPhones, while socialists and communists and lefties everywhere starve to death, and you're sitting here with the gall to say something as patently stupid and untrue as "it has been tried and doesn't work" wtf??

do you even know good things were for americans in the 80s? you could work 40 hours a week on a high school diploma and earn enough money to buy a house and raise a family. unemployment was like 2%. you could walk out of a job on tuesday night and be employment by wednesday morning. liberals point to "wealth inequality" as if that's somehow a debunking of it "working" when "wealth inequality" is the fucking factor that makes it all work to begin with. typical lefty stupidity and dishonesty. if you were dumb enough to drink that kool-aid i'm sorry kid, i pity you

>>135192417
>>135193455
oh BTW just to be clear, you still can't "tax the shit out of corporations". you need to keep the levels low still. but you need to keep them low for both parties. i know this should be obvious....... but /pol/ is sorta dumb

>>135179317
raise taxes on the kulaks higher
Bannon is NAZBOL

>>135193429
Trickle down is code word for savings and reinvestment. Pretty much every economy ever has grown.

>>135193455
As i understand it Empirical evidence is not as clear.. in >>135184309 the guy that says Warren Buffet only paid a hundred of a percent in taxes. prior to that he talks about how reducing taxes on the wealthy (the debate was about whether the income tax on the wealthy should be increased or not, and he Was against it), diminished growth and how tax reductions increased growth. He gave a series of historical examples..
Then his opponent gave an equal number of historical examples on how taxing the wealthy had increased growth.

Im not sure the "science is settled".

>>135179317
Taxing the rich? It is the poor and the middle class which should be taxed if the government needs money. Leave the rich alone, they have suffered enough.

Not only did the rich not have the opportunity to have a proper say during last election, but now they are going to tax the rich? Hillary would not do that, this is outrageous.

Also, people who advocate Austrian-school libertarian no-tax shit on this board are stupid. The whole thing was overwhelmingly Jewish, and should be viewed as a typically Jewish exercise in promoting atomistic individualism.

>>135179733
did you mean joos

>>135192254
>cannot read his own congressional committee papers

>Americunt education

>>135183356
If this tax won't accomplish anything, why are jews kvetching so hard against it?

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>>135193812
>do you even know good things were for americans in the 80s

And then the effects of Congress' ban on Israel boycott kicked in, the Soviets fell, arms race fell apart, (((global trade))) began to thrive, (((9/11))) happened, (((War on Terror))) was declared. (((Pure coincidence))), amirite? Blame the natural business cycles! Decline of productivity! Taxation! Economics has some very good points, but it's mostly a Jewish fairy tale.

>>135194962
perhaps because they understand economic, and ultimately want America to prosper?

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>>135186302
Trickle down works only with protectionism, it cannot work with globalism. With that in mind, the next best thing is low taxes on the middle class and poor.
>>135186596
Why don't you just admit you love taxing the poor and middle class? In fact, anyone against Bannon's proposal wants to raise taxes on the middle class essentially, because Bannon simply wants to increase taxes on the richest to fund more tax cuts for the poorer.

>>135187832
>taxing job creators
Except in a globalist system they have no mandate to create jobs in America. What the fuck do we gain if these "job creators" expand their businesses overseas?

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>>135189904
Good thing Bannon supports cutting the Corporate tax rate

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>"inequality" about to boil over into another NORTHERN WAR OF AGGRESSION
>Dumbftards literally the "Irish" front line fodder
>SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS Bannon shitting his obese man's adult diaper

The UTTER, ARRANT, ABJECT, ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE BURGER SHITE HOUSE.

>>135195413
Except you view this tax increase in a complete vacuum. The corporate tax rate is being cut, middle class and poor tax rates are being cut, the tax code is being simplified. Why is this one fucking issue such a fucking deal breaker that gets a bunch of screeching retards worked up?

Nice move.... think people think...

Barely anyone making $5M is actually paid $5M through ordinary income. It's $5M through capital gains. So essentially, they are raising taxes on no one while cutting taxes on 99.9% of everyone else.

Remember the Dems think the rich is anyone over $250,000 & $500,000 (married)...

>>135195700
>35%
Jesus Christ.. in "socialist" Denmark we are at 18% or so..

>>135192364
They are redditers

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>>135192364
Whenever I see anyone spelling Jews as joos, I get EXTREMELY suspicious
>>135186596
>>135187832
>>135192113
>>135194746

>>135194397
dude the fact that people will still try to shill for the other side doesn't mean "it's not settled". there are people, supposedly 'intelligent' academics who will argue, with science and facts and stats that there are more than two genders, and that there is no such thing as race, but white people are inherently racist. it means nothing.

the reality is that there are people who are hellbent on the destruction of western capitalist society and because they can't fight us militarily, subversion and subversives are their weapons of choice (seriously, frankfurt school, saul alinsky, ect, this is the reality and they're here in big numbers).

in truth, as i've stated, you can see in every private sector how competitions FLOURISHES as soon as regulations are dropped. literally invariably. i'm perpetually amazed we're even having this discussion.

but even more importantly, and more simply, just think about this statement
>Then his opponent gave an equal number of historical examples on how taxing the wealthy had increased growth.
how? how would you think taxing the wealthy can increase growth? think about it? use your noodle? how is growth going to increase? growth from who? what sort of growth? growth of GDP? no. growth of per capita income? maybe, but only for a short while, because as they say "socialism always works at first". that's the nature of the system. it works before it fucking collapses in a fiery ball of poverty and starvation and riots and violence. so are they cherrypicking data that only has a short term outlook?

THINK about the statement and how an economy works. it cannot GROW, or especially not INCREASE GROWTH EVER by taxing the wealthy

>>135192364
falling into the same trap as ANTIFA and the socialist fags, just with joos replacing "whites".

joos are a problem in our society but you can deal with them in ways other than changing the tax code so that they'll still be rich (relatively speaking) and the rest of us will be destitute

>>135197215
Why do you want to increase taxes on the middle class?

frankly speaking, and i'm depressed to say this, everyone on this board exhibits a frightening lack of grasp of economics and economic policies except for me. i'm literally the only one here who understands even the basic principles and tenets. wtf /pol/, i expected better of you. you're so smart on so many other topics :(

>>135197418
i don't really but if we're going to finance social programs it's the best way to do. that's how they do it in the netherlands (yes "liberal paradise" is literally funded by massive wealth inequality and high taxes on the middle class). i don't think those programs are ultimately a good thing. i think taxation is theft really, personally. so it's not like i "want" to see them get taxed. but they're the group that the economy is most able to absorb taxes from without everyones quality of life being sucked under

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>>135197846
i'm sorry scandinavia, not "the netherlands"

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>>135197418
Because he is a fucking KIKE, here for (you)'s and to bring the divide between Bannon and Trump, libertarians and nazis. He hasn't read Hoppe, he doesn't know anything but the good of his own (((tribe))).

>>135197846
>we can't raise taxes on the wealthy, we should raise taxes on the middle class instead

>>135179317
Bannon is right this is one of the things I hate about the GOP stop babying the Kikes with money. Make em pay

>>135198037
not that we "should" but raising taxes on the wealthy destroys the economic opportunity for the middle class and the poor. taxing the poor is ok too but a little cruel considering their conditions. so many countries with successful social programs (like socialized medicine) are able to pay for that by taxing the middle class, who still live very comfortable and luxurious lifestyles because of the opportunities afforded to them by massive wealth inequality.

i already told you i don't believe in taxation really, and i don't really believe in social programs, but if we're going to have them (which clearly for all practical purposes we are) then that's just factually where the money has to come from. i don't care if you're morally opposed to it, or it's not what you want to hear, or you are angry at rich people and want to direct the government to steal their money. this is what creates a better quality of life for everyone across the board (when your emotions are taken out of the equation)

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>>135197846
>>135197961
>yes "liberal paradise" is literally funded by massive wealth inequality and high taxes on the middle class

Everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE on this board hates Scandinavia, even the fucking Scandinavians. Sweden will collapse, and why? Because the super-rich don't want to invest into highly scientific enterprises, they are racing to the bottom, which is why we get (((POPULATION REPLACEMENT))) and all that beautiful shit you get when you buy into globalist nonsense. Get out, kike, shoo.

>>135197991
i literally post all day on /pol/ about redpills about joos and what problems they are to our society, frankfurt school, dangers of marxism, ect ect. not liking joos doesn't mean i have to be anti-intellectual and espouse bad economic policy that will ultimately harm everyone, particularly the classes and groups of people you claim you want to protect

>>135179514
Because supply and demand deviation means we net lose tax income from the rich to appease to you fucking retarded peasants. Have you tried moving assets around with a 60% income tax? Why the actual FUCK would you invest in the United States with that tax?

And then the people who put this tax there complain about hedge funds ""evading"" their ""perfectly sane"" taxes, which would INSTANTLY collapse the US economy if anybody followed them.

I don't think natsocs or redditors should be allowed to talk about economics. It's VERY cringworthy.

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>>135198358
>the middle class

That is becoming NON-WHITE at an alarming rate. Refugees welcome, amirite?

>>135198415
wait what? social policy and the personal character content of scandinavians is a separate issue from fucking economic policy, lol.

"i don't like scandinavia therefore i cannot recognize that their economic policy is successful' guess what? it IS successful whether you want to admit it or not. imagine how much more successful that system could be if you kicked out social programs, lowered the taxes on both the rich and the middle class, and had a fucking libertarian paradise......it would almost be like.........it would almost be like how america was in decades past, before it became impossible to raise a family and own a home with just a high school education...............

>>135198358
Trickle down doesn't work in a globalist system, it can only work in a protectionist one.

>>135198804
wtf does their immigration have to do with their proven economic policy omfg. not seeing the connection here.

is anyone on this board going to make an economic argument against me? or are they just going to say "i don't like joos therefore i am right" and now "i don't like scandinavians therefore you are wrong" like wtf????

it's economics. it works, for the most part, outside of the social ills you are describing

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>>135198642
>frankfurt school

Meme target. Frankfurt School had the most penetrating analysis of the Jewish philosophy, the problems of which lie beyond Marxism, and if you dismiss that, you are either a Jew or a Jew puppet.

>>135198661
>Because supply and demand deviation means we net lose tax income from the rich to appease to you fucking retarded peasants.
Why do you want higher taxes on the middle class?

>>135179317
No, you're a nationalist

>>135198994
ok well again tell that to scandinavia. like wtf are you even talking about??

holy shit, tell that to switzerland.

i'm not as familiar with germany's economic policies personally, but maybe tell that to them too??? i dunno, what are their tax rates like???

>>135179317

JEWS ARE THE 1%. TAX THE JEWS TO DIMINISH JEWISH POWER

>>135199150
Trickle down does not work in a globalist system, it can only work in a protectionist one. When looking at investments, the rich have the entire world to seek more profit. Cutting their taxes will have minimal effect on American jobs because they have no obligation to invest in American companies or expand them.

>>135198994

Trickle down doesn't really work at all, unless your objective is feudalism

>>135179317
If he and Trump had just done this back in January they could have had the left licking their assholes for the last 6 months. They would have helped him pass anything.

>>135199203
When did I say that.

>>135199156
i don't know what to tell you. you people are retarded faggots. you hear some simple economic facts that you don't like and you turn it into a discussion about joos and whatnot. no. i don't like joos. joos are not your friend. marxism is a symptom of them, not a cause (i don't know why you'd think i suggested otherwise). the cause is their tribalistic nature, which is bred into their genes by virtue of how they survived for so long as "a people without a nation", and their religious texts, which basically teach that it is their destiny to subvert and enslave "the goys". to them the goys are meaningless. the torrah literally says if you see a goy drowning don't save him. it is against jooish law to save a drowning goy.

all of this stuff is true, yes, but none of it changes the basic tenets of economic policy and what will happen if you start taxing rich people and whining about "wealth inequality bullshit"

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>>135199150
>wtf does their immigration have to do with their proven economic policy omfg. not seeing the connection here.

That's because you are either paid to do so by kikes, or you are an inbred kike yourself. If you tax the shit out of middle and lower classes, why would they want to breed, how would they thrive? And if they aren't thriving, who would your globalist, corporate ilk use to supplement their failing productivity? Your one-sided, capital-centered view of economics will destroy this country, just like it destroyed Sweden.

>>135199497
i mean i literally just cited some examples that absolutely completely and totally debunk this empty statement, totally devoid of substance or substantiation, that you made??

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I called it before and i'll say it again. We are experiencing in our lifetime, what was last seen in the 60's. The tectonic shift of the parties.

The Democrats used to be the pro-slavery anti-nigger party of the southern plantation owners (AKA the "big businesses") While Republicans were the working class party and the anti-slavery party. (because slaves held jobs Americans could do. AKA money didn't flow, and just accumulated at the top)

in the 60's, JFK changed the party alignments when he supported MLK and Civil Rights as political tools to get the black vote. So the Southern Democrats voted for Republicans instead and joined the party.

Since then, over the next few decades Democrats shifted into the "progressive" "worker's" party and Republicans the "big business" party.

What we are seeing with the 2016 election and Hillary, is the parties both coming full circle after years of going full ham has naturally brought them back to their natural state. Democrats have basically gone back to being the plantation party, but with minorities and illegals instead of slaves, while Trump is proposing ideas that support the American worker, and won the support of many working class Democrats who decided the Democrat party wasn't for them anymore. (while Republican neocons and corporatists are starting to shift to the Democrats)

what a time to be alive

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>>135179317
you make over 5 mil per year?

>>135199763
you don't tax them to make them poorer. you tax them if you want to fund social programs (which i'm against, i'm a fucking libertarian and think taxation is theft buddy, i've said it multiple times in this thread). the point is that by lowering taxes on teh wealthy you make enough income inequality that there's a bunch of capital floating around for people to invest in, they do so, they make jobs, opportunity, imports and exports flow. GDP grows.and the end result is that the middle class is being taxed disproportionately, sure, but they're also flooded with money and opportunity to begin with so it doesnt matter.

it's not "fuck the middle class lets make it so they don't breed" or whatever bullshit you're selling. the only policies that will lead to poor people and middle classes not breeding is socialism. ask yourself why the richest joo fucks always push socialism bud? hate to say it but they're smarter than you and they see how it will end up fucking you and your people over.

>>135199437
>>135199524
The rich want to make more money, their money doesn't just sit in a couch. To make more money they make more investments. In a globalist system the pool of investments they can make encompasses the whole world, so cutting their tax rates has a negligible effect on American jobs. However, in a protectionist system only they can make investments.

You want to know what really stifles the economy? The SEC preventing the middle class and poor from investing.

http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/wendy-mcelroy-the-economic-abomination-of-accredited-investors/

>Security regulations restrict the ability to invest in "high risk" ventures, such as startup companies or hedge funds, to those who are in the upper echelon of wealth. The requirements to become an accredited investor vary slightly from country to country.

>The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) offers one of three ways to qualify: The individual (or entity such as a corporation) must have an annual income of $200,000 or a joint one of $300,000; he must have a net worth of over $1 million; or, he must be a general partner, executive officer, or somehow in business with whomever is issuing the security.

>Privileging the rich is justified on the grounds that poor people are too financially stupid to make high-risk investments without losing their life savings; the word most often used is "unsophisticated." Of course, there is an intimate connection between taking risk and reaping huge returns. For example, accredited investors, who are free to seed startup companies, may see massive returns of far over 100% if the venture goes public – that is, if there is a public offering of stock (IPO). Meanwhile, the average person is generally restricted to investing in mutual funds and other low-risk, low-return vehicles; this institutional investing is a form of what is called "passive investing."

>>135199150
Its a difficult discussion.
People argue that they would increase tax x to decrease tax y. Therefor it becomes a discussion about which tax you want to decrease the most, rather than decreasing taxes overall through cutting welfare-programs.
Secondly, most people genuinely are skeptical toward the wealthy/elites.. in a demographic-thinking, then it results in the logic of taxing them - so "we" can get more.

you guys have all been great but i got to go do some stuff. i'll come back and answer to any angry questions or accusations about me being a joo later on if the thread is still open

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>>135200228
No, social programs often make people poorer. Social security is the most regressive policy in American history

>>135198661
What does this have to do with natsoc? lmfao

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>>135180974

The true red pill is no income tax at all

>>135199742
actually faggot, the jews created this class conflict knowing what you just typed out... an infinite class warfare. Nationalism doesn't breed class warfare, class warfare comes from somewhere.. and when you look back far enough, it was the fucking kikes.

>>135200295
>>135200228
Why do the rich get special privileges to invest, while everyone else is barred from it?

http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/wendy-mcelroy-the-economic-abomination-of-accredited-investors/

>>135200228
>the point is that by lowering taxes on teh wealthy you make enough income inequality that there's a bunch of capital floating around for people to invest in
Then why does the SEC prevent the plebs from investing? It's a very nice racket
>don't cut our taxes we won't be able to invest
>WTF YOU WANT TO INVEST, FUCK YOU UNSOPHISTICATED INVESTOR YOU CANT DO THAT
t. SEC

>>135200251

Supply doesn't dictate demand.

Demand dictates supply.

Spending causes more economic activity than parking money, as capital can always be accessed because we have a fiat currency ensuring capital supply. We don't have anything ensuring demand. Demand is the missing part of the puzzle and where the most bang for the buck is, by far.

>>135179514
It's the same they support the repeal of death tax - they plan to be super rich and successful someday and don't be want to be penalized.

It's the ultimate carrot on the stick.

>>135199763
Sweden is still a fairly decent country.. Its +80% whites, and the immigrants are centered in designated areas, similar to how black and whites are distributed in America.

Also, Sweden have undergone massive economical reforms in the last decade. Downsizing government and decreasing the overall tax rate - probably to create the economic basis that can accommodate the "new" Swedes.

>>135185602
Demand drives jobs, not investment. Demand incentivizes investment. The wealthy passing established stocks around is not investment, it does not create jobs. This isn't the 20th century anymore.

This is a relatively modest tax increase on individuals making over 5 million a year. Stop being a fear mongering kike.

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>>135201102
If people truly cared about investment capital, why do they make it illegal for the non-rich to invest in high risk ventures?

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>>135201211
>that pic

Wow, the audacity of these kikes

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>>135197387
I'm sure your peer group is made up entirely of people that pull in $5M+ but mine isn't.

I'm also sure those people are not primarily employed by the aforementioned multinationals or companies owned by them that are leeching the wealth out of America and loopholing the tax code to keep us (in aggregate) poorer than we should be.

There's "socialism" and then there's socialism. The "international variety" allows Americans to get fucked over, the other explicitly forbids it.

Wake the fuck up, my dude.

>>135179514
laffer curve

although i support this move because it will bring down the system faster, once america goes full tyrannical.

>>135179514
Nah, that's fucking absurd and you're removing the incentive for these people to continue making money.

Unless it's war time, no ones taxes should ever exceed 50-55% max. The gov't needs to get leaner, not continue gorging its self and wasting our money.

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>>135203419
>It really sucks making $5M year, I think I'll just chill on basic cable and food stamps

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bump against Jewish resistance

>>135179733
Yes, this exactly. Soak the illuminati, get them the fuck out of the West.

>>135179514

In many countries hebephilia is considered normal and healthy and human beings have a natural attraction to girls who are going through puberty. being attracted to girls who are pre-pubescent is fucking sick and disgusting but only in the us does there seem to be this unwarranted taboo around healthy and normal male sexuality.
I don't even know why I'm talking to you, you're clearly economically illetrate it's simply clear that the invisible hand of the free market will solve everything for example if I wanted to be an hebephile it would finaly be NORMAL and all I'd have to do would be to give a compensation to my private militia in order to propose a girl to willingly offer her services to me so we can have a voluntary mutually beneficial exchange. You fucking hypocrites.

>>135198661
Rich people can live above average lifestyles even after 60% taxation unlike poor people. It's like you've never heard of progressive taxation. The rich need to pay more as they have such an incredibly disproportionate amount of money nowadays.
>>135185602
>taxing the rich leads to economic stagnation and no growth or opportunity for anyone.
The tax rates and unprecedented growth of the 50s would disagree with you.

>>135179317
This is why scaranigger is bitching about Bannon.

>>135200368
how do you not even read the comment or the ones before it to the point where you miss where i clearly stated multiple times that i didn't believe in social program. fuckin' internet morons

>>135200633
joos literally invented socialism and communism and are the ones pushing it on you at every turn. they literally were the ones funding occupy wallstreet too.

>>135200638
who the fuck said everyone else else is barred from investing? wtf?
now you're talking about another government agency and another policy that is a separate problem and has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. pls stay on topic omfg.

>>135201102
investment doesn't drive jobs? wtf? is this even serious? ok go tell that to venezuelans then, huh?

>This isn't the 20th century anymore.

no that's right, in the 20th century when we abided by these policies and my logic, people could afford stuff, like houses and families, and they could afford them on simple high school educations.

>>135201840
is there even supposed to be any substance to this that i can dignify with a response?

summation: /pol/ claims to hate joos but then is brainwashed by them into believing in wealth redistribution and taxing the wealthy, and all of the other bullshit left-wing economic lies they tell you to believe. kinda ironic.

>>135180974
That is one of the most retarded things I've ever seen and I'm a leaf

>>135207870
tax rates in the 50s weren't really high and it's dishonest left-wing propaganda that tells you so. these rates they cite actually applied to almost no one in practice. also they're still lower than now by a hugely significant percentage

TAX THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW

>>135207870
You are a fucking retard.

The question is why the hell should they pay taxes on that 5 million when they can export it out?
What the fuck is the incentive to make more money if you get to keep 40 cents for every dollar you earn?

After a point the risk of keeping it hidden and using loopholes is cheaper with paying the fines for being caught, than just paying taxes to begin with, it just becomes a fucking joke.

>>135180974
>all these shills with literally no arguments
holy shit i thought /pol/ was generally red pilled
vid is still kinda gay though

>>135179317
Aww look how sad and worried he looks. Just pass his plan. Don't be mean.

>>135208612
It was over 90% for the top earners, of course that wouldn't be very many people but the revenue from it would have been a considerable chunk of all revenue. And indeed they are lower, which is the problem and contributes to the economic problems of today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

>>135187249
if you make 190k a year you should be taxed at a 25-30% rate and $10,000 in taxes isn't even close to that

>>135208594
kek

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>>135179317
SHUT IT DOWN FUCKING GET THIS MAN OUT OF OFFICE NOW

>>135208740
>What the fuck is the incentive to make more money if you get to keep 40 cents for every dollar you earn?
By realizing you're overvaluing fiat currency and are being detrimental to economic growth by hoarding massive amounts of it when the sole purpose of money is to keep circulating. The shitty economies and mass poverty of the Middle East and Africa should show you what such a society looks like with severe inequality. We're already seeing the transformation in America, everyday this country becomes more and more like the shitholes we decry.

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>>135179317

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why do a bunch of neets on 4chan care about tax?

>>135208868
>It was over 90% for the top earners
no it wasn't, it was over 90%, briefly, for people who earned over 3 and a half million dollars in a year, but it was only collected on the dividends (meaning the first 3 and a half million didn't get taxed at all). it was a dumb policy and didn't last very long.

the US also had a lot of other things going for it in the 50s, like dividends paid from the marshal plan, having the only working infrastructure in the world that didn't get bombed to fuckall in the WW2 and more.

if you can honestly believe that "tax rates were 90% for the wealthiest" just because bernie sanders says it and some left wing blogs, then you're stupid and you'll swallow any left-wing economic lie.

if the wealthiest were taxed 90% the bottom would fall out of the economy, you would become unemployed and you would fucking starve. period. it's not theoretical. that's what would literally happen.

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>>135208868
seriously you're like "bu bu bu bu bu but muh youtube video" no. you're retarded to believe someone when they tell you there was a 90% tax rate in the 50s. that's a fucking flat out lie you could make a clean 3 and a half million that wasn't even taxed at all

90% tax rate on foreign business investments. 10% tax on domestic business investments. Problem solved.

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>>135179317
Steve Bannon is Nazbol.

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>>135209763
Why are you linking to your own post, you globalist fuck?

>>135209976
trump had the best quote. someone was talking about these sort of policies and they were like "bu bu bu bu bu but muh free market" and he just said "hahaha yeah, that's the DUMB market". gotta love him, says it simply, plainly and to the point.

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>>135210003
>>135189212
>>135190334
>>135207437
bros

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>>135210003
Without the bol part.
Also, good on you for bringing up age-old drivel from #FireBannon times (not)
>go on 4plebs
>search "#FireBannon"
>enjoy the smug superiority over uninventive shills

Most wealthy people don't become wealthy by having an extremely high salary. They become wealthy by starting a business or company and taking out the profits, which is not the same as having a salary.
People who actually have a salary of $5m a year, are most likely not people who have built their own fortunes from the ground up, but are probably CEOs, athletes and entertainers. If they want to tax these people an extra 4.4%, then by all means, go ahead. It's not going to affect the self-made millionaires.

>>135210196
i had to put an addendum on there cuz he cited a youtube video and it's like yeah, guess what? youtube isn't real. left-wing bullshit on youtube is just not real, even though they produce it well, speak slowly and clearly, and use graphs + numbers that tell you only half of the story (lies by omission that create a totally different perception of what was really happening). if it was then anita sarkeesian would be our lord and ruler right now, and we would have nothing but feminist videogames

the tax rate was no "90%". it was "90% on money earned over 3 and a half million" which meant you could earn 3 and a half million IN A YEAR and not have it fucking touched. and no this policy didn't last long because it's a stupid fuckign policy.

now bernie sanders and left-wing bloggers and bullshit artists like the one he linked to on youtube lie to morons like him and say "look 90% tax rate in the 50s and the economy thrived!"

like no. that's fucking retarded. you need to be retarded to believe that. the economy would be fuckign dead in the water if there was a 90% tax rate on anyone, but especially the mega wealthy.

>>135181178
go out and earn your own money you fucking trust fund faggot

>>135180138
Hmm interesting point. I wonder why they are being so greedy? Need funds for the Nwo perhaps?

>>135210196
>>135210630
and to be clear if you earned money over 3 and a half million, it only got taxed after that marker

so if you earned 4 million, you would only be paying taxes on 500K of it at 90%. stupid policy. but it sure as hell isn't the same as "a 90% tax rate" that's a fucking left-wing LIE they sell to ignorant children who are mad at rich people

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>>135210196
>>135210630
and fuck i'm sorry to keep replying to this but i want this to be super clear. in this scenario, the 3.5 million didn't get taxed AT ALL. literally. AT ALL. and yet they're out there, this is how mendacious they are, saying "look the 50s 90% tax rate on the super wealthy hurrrr durrrrr"

>>135210628
This, thanks.

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>>135210628
>People who actually have a salary of $5m a year

Are probably kikes and others with (((connections))) in high places

>>135199946
this,
well said

>>135208112
It's not complicated you dense fuck. Usury = bad. Many other business and accounting practices currently in place are usury-tier and practiced almost exclusively by an international clique of bankers and merchants.

Not that you've made this argument but I'll go ahead and say it - the "free market" is a fairy tale when (((certain people))) are already at the top and have connived every possible advantage to eliminate their US-based mom+pop competition. What the fuck do you think is going to happen if all of a sudden we take down even the pretense of regulation and hand them a blank check?

This thread kills globalists.

>>135211576
Absolutely. Given that Trump is a Republican president and a wealthy businessman, a tax hike is the last thing you'd expect from him, so the first thing that popped into my mind when I hard about this, was that it was aimed at a specific group of people.

There are many ways to tax the rich, but this is a very narrow tax hike that specifically attacks wealthy liberals, celebrities and Jews. Bannon is a clever man.

>>135179514
tax the fucking jews! fuck them. it ain't us honkeys making over 5 mil...fucking jews.

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>>135212558
>Bannon is a clever man
Bannon's a fucking genius, I never doubt him, it really takes a lot of savvy to get past (((their))) accusations while openly admitting to reading Evola and such

>>135212298
i assume by usury you mean just standard bank loans and business practices. i wonder what you think would happen to the US economy if tomorrow loans just stopped being issued.

>the "free market" is a fairy tale when (((certain people))) are already at the top and have connived every possible advantage to eliminate their US-based mom+pop competition.

ok you fucking SJW fuck with your oppression narrative and determinism. get off your fag ass and make something of yourself if you're concerned about any of that. don't sit on /pol/ and bitch about "muh joos".

yes it is true that joos want you enslaved and subjugated, but it's not true that you are personally held down by them in any economic sense, specifically BECAUSE you live in a capitalist system (that's why they're always pushing socialism and marxism with their hollywood joovies, and music, and television and MSM).

the only reasonable complaint you have in this regard is government regulations that have been set to benefit those already in power. "high tax rates" are no answer to that though, as they only strangle smaller entrepreneurs and kill upcoming competition whilst the biggest and the richest can absorb.

if you want to beat joos, start your own business and beat them at their own economic game. or find some other way to attack them. don't go crying to papa government though "to tax muh rich people becuz some of them iz joos" and make us all impoverished and fucked just because you're too stupid to stand up to them yourself.

if you didn't know, moron, there's a lot of joos in government too. omfg fuckin' dumb /pol/

>>135212333
>>135212558
>>135213059
I like the way you guys write.

>>135212558
>Bannon is a clever man

yes, it's why that stupid ugly goebbels wannabee faggot jew fuck (((stephen miller))) has been trying to undermine everything for 8 months.

>>135210196
Cool it with the antisemitism, bro. Some Jews are pretty based

>>135213965
pathetic.
if you don't know it says right in the torrah that it's literally against jooish law to save a goy that is drowning. it's against jooish law to save the life of any goy, at any time. if you're sitting on the street corner and bleeding out or having a heart attack, it's technically against a joos religion to even call 911 for you

>>135212298
We got a real antitrust expert over here. Anon realizes that abuse of a dominant market position isn't unlawful. He knows that mom and pop stores are Walmart and amazons real competition. He knows that antitrust protects the competitor, not competition

keep spamming this thread cocksucker.
>more than $5,000,000 a year
good. Which shill farm are you from?

>>135214204
of course if you deregulate every industry then anyone can become an entrepreneur rather easily and there's no way that these large monopolies and corporations can exist anymore.
the reason they lobby government so hard and frequently support dems is because dems pass "regulations" that appear to plebs to be "looking out for their interest" but really fuck them over and pave the way for corporate slave state. "carbon tax" is a great example of this. hurts small business but big business absorbs the hit. end result? no more competition for big business.

the answer is deregulation and freedom. not higher taxes on "muh rich peoplez becuz i dont liek them".

whenever markets are deregulated competition pops up. deregulate them totally and everyone can suddenly become an entrepreneur over night can't they?

>>135179514
This. Berg should be in a shipping container.

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>>135214204
china is a good example of this. in china you can just become a business owner. like just start one. it's super easy. no red tape. no problems like that.

for all of the problems china has, that's one thing they do really well and it's one of the things that makes them such an economic powerhouse. US needs to follow in their footsteps with those policies in order to really solve this issue of "wealth inequality", or more specifically the issues people have with "wealth inequality", because the "inequality" itself is not bad if everyone is doing better and benefiting from the system and enjoying a higher quality of life overall than they otherwise would

>>135179317
Better for people like Bill Gates to help his local homeless instead of shitty villages in some permanently fucked foreign land. Either this tax needs to happen or foreign aid charity needs cut off until every American has no dire need of water, food, shelter or safety.

>>135179514
>one reason

There is not a single one.

>>135179317
Loool, lets do it faggots!

Can we get out our peasant torches and pitchforks when lobbying for this? I don't want to be a peasant, but at the same time I want to bring torches and pitchforks for solely aesthetic purposes.

Also, Bannon is a nationalist warrior monk and the single most important person in Trump's staff.

>>135214932
>for all of the problems china has

Nice too see American propaganda at work. Newsflash: China is better off than the US in ever imaginable way.

>>135180974
I used to think a flat tax would work too. The problem is that in the video, the tax is 12%. Pretty low. The top 10% of earners in the country pay the vast majority of tax dollars. A flat tax of 12% countrywide would simply not be enough, period. Realistically, imposing a flat tax would only hurt the poor and middle class, as that tax rate would still have to be high to absorb the taxes from the wealthy.

The issue goes deeper than just tax rates however. Theres so much wasted money, inefficient handling of money, gibs, corruption, etc. that taxes need to be high to keep the game running. There are some fundamental problems that need to be fixed. Only then can we introduce a flat tax % that makes sense for everyone.

>>135215686
lol

>>135215686
I wish I was this retarded, maybe I would be happy then.

>>135179317
The ultra-rich are leftists. Tax the shit out of em.

>>135214167
Well, that's one way to interpret who is a jew and who is a goy. Another way to interpret goy is "a stupid fuck who can't see beyond their own nose" (such as yourself,) and Jew as "a person who understands that everything is meaningless if the intangible (race, nation, culture) is gone". In that sense, /pol/ has become the Jew.

>>135179317
>we should let the Jews have all (((their))) money

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New /HTG/ thread for any interested anons:

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>>135216048
This.
>B-but muh economic theories!

>>135179317
this only acceptable to me if the tax reform includes a 15% corporate tax

>>135215457
>Also, Bannon is a nationalist warrior monk and the single most important person in Trump's staff.

This

>>135214932
>>135215686
We need the freedom of Chinese labor laws in the US

>>135179317
Do it. Why the fuck do we protect them, they pull strings in the government and horde money like they're trying to outdo the federal reserve. Fuck them.

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>>135217960
Oh no, the honkies don't want to fuck themselves over! What do (((we))) do? Import niggers, obviously

>>135179514
Because they don't pay it. Our tax code is absolutely riddled with loopholes and exceptions, it is chump change for these people to hire an accountant to get them out of paying taxes.

>>135185602
The reason why the Top X% pay most of the taxes in the US is because their share of wealth relative to the middle and working classes has grown enormously.

>>135196080
They raise it to improve the effective rate. Between offshoring and other loopholes, many corporations pay in practice far less than 35%

>>135179317
The government exists as a means of asset protection, stop skimping on the payments.

>>135199946

All of this only works if Trump is able to combat the existing GOP establishment. He riddled his administration with these establishment kikes.

>>135219290
Well, if he listens to Bannon and to his supporters while keeping the kikes on their toes with his top-tier banter and hilarious picks, it doesn't matter who he picked as his staff.

>>135187249
You can voluntarily contribute more to taxes on your returns, you dipshit.

>>135190558
Any hints on stock symbol anon?

>>135217960
what a strawman, i never said "labor laws" i said lack of regulations around entrepreneurship and starting your own business.

>>135215686
didn't i literally just say we needed to adopt certain chinese policies to stay competitive? fucking stupid people on /pol/ man

>>135218800
no that's not why and if you think that's why then you don't know the first thing about what you're talking about. wealth inequality is what builds an economy. "equality" is what kills it. in "socialist paradises" like sweden (which isn't even socialist) they finance their "socialist programs" specifically through massive wealth inequality and high taxes on the middle class.

the truth is the top X% pay most taxes in the US because there are people (largely pols joo boogeymen) who want to destroy the US from the inside out and revel in seeing its economy weakened.

back in teh days before high taxes on the wealthiest the lower classes could raise a family, own a home, two automobiles, all on a fucking highschool diploma and a 40 hour work week. when i was a little kid, that was known as "the american dream". it made us the envy of the world and it was something available to every man woman and child in the nation.

then your joo leftists started preaching "wealth inequality" appealing to your jealousy and insecurities about people doing better than you, and they fucked you all over. that's the reality of the situation

tell me /pol/, if i'm secretly the joo boogeyman for preaching the virtues of low taxes and wealth inequality, then why are all your actual joo boogeyman out there pushing for socialism and marxism? why was there a frankfurt school? why did joos build communist russia? why are they the ones financing all of these left-wing social programs and protests and "the resistance". open your fucking eyes, socialism and wealth redistribution are methods by which your elites control you whilst appealing to your own personal insecurity and high taxes on the rich to stop "muh wealth inequality" is all a part of that same beast.

>>135209301
Gee thanks for the lesson Mother Theresa, but again please answer my question,

If you want to make money what the hell is the incentive to make money in the United States and pay taxes in the United States and make jobs in the United States if you lose 60 cents for every dollar you make?

and plz with less think of the children this time

>>135224347
answer: there fucking is none. and more importantly if you're the super rich, you have less capital to reinvest in the economy. it's a recipe for absolute disaster and that's why socialist nations fall into poverty, disrepair, social unrest, violence, ect

>>135179317
>wtf im a democrat now
no you're not, you pay taxes

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>>135179317
god you people are pathetic boot lickers

>>135181178
I never understood this line of thought. "Where is the incentive to earn if I have higher taxes".

I would rather have 10 million with half taxed at 50% than 1 million dollars with all of it taxed at 30%.

Are these people so retarded they don't realize that you still end up with more money?

>>135179317
duh