I agree Bannon/Trump we should increase taxes on WHITE PEOPLE

#I'mwithher!

Vote for Trump, get Hillary!

http://www.atr.org/full-list-hillary-s-planned-tax-hikes

Income Tax Increase – $350 Billion: Clinton has proposed a $350 billion income tax hike in the form of a 28 percent cap on itemized deductions.

Business Tax Increase -- $275 Billion: Clinton has called for a tax hike of at least $275 billion through undefined business tax reform, as described in a Clinton campaign document.

“Fairness” Tax Increase -- $400 Billion: According to her published plan, Clinton has called for a tax increase of “between $400 and $500 billion” by “restoring basic fairness to our tax code.” These proposals include a “fair share surcharge,” the taxing of carried interest capital gains as ordinary income, and a hike in the Death Tax.

But there are even more Clinton tax hike proposals not included in the tally above. Her campaign has failed to release specific details for many of her proposals. The true Clinton net tax hike figure is likely much higher than $1 trillion.

For instance:

Capital Gains Tax Increase -- Clinton has proposed an increase in the capital gains tax to counter the “tyranny of today’s earnings report.” Her plan calls for a byzantine capital gains tax regime with six rates. Her campaign has not put a dollar amount on this tax increase.

Tax on Stock Trading -- Clinton has proposed a new tax on stock trading. Costs associated with this new tax will be borne by millions of American families that hold 401(k)s, IRAs and other savings accounts. The tax increase would only further burden markets by discouraging trading and investment. Again, no dollar figure for this tax hike has been released by the Clinton campaign.

>>135174421
“Exit Tax” – Rather than reduce the extremely high, uncompetitive corporate tax rate, Clinton has proposed a series of measures aimed at inversions including an “exit tax” on income earned overseas. The term “exit tax” is used by the campaign itself. Her campaign document describing this proposal says it will raise $80 billion in tax revenue, but claims some of the $80 billion will be plowed into tax relief. How much? The campaign doesn't say.

This proposal completely fails to address the underlying causes behind inversions: The U.S. 39% corporate tax rate (35% federal rate plus an average state rate of 4%) and our "worldwide" system of taxation, which imposes tax on all American earnings worldwide. The average corporate rate in the developed world is 25%. Thirty-one of thirty-four developed countries have cut their corporate tax rate since 2000. The U.S. has not. Hillary's plan moves in the wrong direction.

>>135174133
>OP's so autistic he had to make a new thread just to express his butthurt

2 genders
2 scoops
2 terms

:^)

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>>135174655
>2 terms

Sure his voting base will love niggers and spics getting gibs

>>135174133
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>>135174133
>taxing jews is bad
The fatal flaw with libertarian ideology is it makes every excuse for Jewish globalists to impoverish everyone. Liberitirianism cannot work without reciprocation and cannot function with government enforced artificial monopolies.

In the end a progressive tax rate is moral. If you taxed everyone 15% and refunded the first $30k you would get a progressive tax rate.

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>>135175113
>taxing jews is bad

BECAUSE THEY ALREADY PAY THE TAXES CURRENTLY AND IT ONLY APPLIES TO JEWS AND NOT WHITES RIGHT SANDERS WARREN 2020

Get out and never come back.

>>135174133
I wonder if this will only be a temporary thing though?

>>135175327
>I wonder if this will only be a temporary thing though?

>taxation is only temporary

The bigger you make government the bigger it keeps getting

We've seen our federal government expand to the point where it's the bloated mess you see today. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

>>135175245
>jews pay taxes
lol you're an idiot.

The middile class pays a 30% tax rate, the upper class pays 15% Alternate Minimum Tax (AMT) on the small portion of their income that isn't already tax deferred. Jews don't pay taxes.

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boot out the illegals and use welfare on white people

u fkin faggots who hate welfare suk a dik imagine if those welfare queens had white babies instead of niggers then what would you say

>>135174133
more like Jews

>>135175614
>use welfare on white people

Yeah that's unconstitutional and welfare has to be applied to non-whites

That's why welfare and gibs have to GO

>>135175450
the increase you dip
I suppose I should be asking how long the current proposed tax rate would last, given how often the thing fluctuates
Where's /biz/ when you need them

>>135175614
unmarried harlots should be stoned to death with their bastard children.

>>135175327
Yeah goy and the PATRIOT Act is only temporary too :)

>>135175672
>more like Jews

You mean the jews in Trump's cabinet/famliy you fucking faggot?

oh yeah I forgot there are no white people in the middle class

>>135175757
Jews in general. Its not Trump's Idea.

>>135174133
(((the very rich)))

>>135175892
>Jews in general. Its not Trump's Idea.

Trump has offshore accounts, but I guess that's ok right? After all he's just PLAYING THE GAME! I'm sure you would be ok with raising taxes on me while the rich get loopholes

>>135175894
>(((the very rich)))

Warren 2020!

>>135174133
You can always let the jews hoard it all

>>135175614
that is a guy , fuck off

>>135175894
a better question is why we're putting stricter sanctions on Russia, but lessening though, even outlawing the thought in the case of Israel, sanctions on economies that give us issues such as Israel, China, and the EU
Chinese steel for example, is shit for the price you pay, whereas the russian steel market is considerably better for a similar pricing.

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>>135175732
what about men who fornicate

they should be taken out from amongst the congregation of the people

we only believe in arranged marriages here

Oh no, tax the 0.013 more?!?! I'm literally shaking, this is so Hitler!

>>135176103

They will always hoard it, they are jews

What you are saying is MIDDLE CLASS VOTERS need to feed GIBS

NO MORE GIBS

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>>135174133
>I'm mad because kikes will pay more taxes

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>>135176346

WOAH SANDERS WARREN 2020

GLOBALIST VS NATIONALIST KIKES

I'M SURE THE ARE GOING TO PAY AND NOT EXPLOIT LOOPHOLES

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>M-MUH DRUMPF!!!

>>135176219
Their father should shotgun wedding fornicators to their daughter. Failing that, revenge killings.

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>>135176436
>Muh poor kikes... It isn't fair...

>>135174133
It's called national socialism for a reason

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>>135176622
Hahahahah like those kikes in the Trump cabinet? (((((((((((((Goldman Sachs)))))))))))) sure sounds like WE THE PEOPLE right?

>>135176631
Bernie would be proud.

>>135174133
>giving
>lowering income taxes on lower incomes is giving
Stop being a nigger

>>135174133

>tax whites and give it to wetbacks and niggers

Thats how taxes work already though.

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>>135176595
i disagree i think he should be taken out from the congregation of the people

the reason being is because the father gets to choose which male their virgin daughter gets to marry

a fornicator doesnt get to pick

a daughter is like property of the father and you "give her in marriage" as like a trade

>>135176781
>Thats how taxes work already though.

So you want MORE of it?

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Ask Brits what they think of socialism after General Secertary Corbyn has his way with them.

>>135174133

"But there are even more Clinton tax hike proposals not included in the tally above"
Yes, its called the Progressive freedom of Democracy.

Just like Communism swept Russia, the Orange revolution swept Ukraine.

Somehow we end up paying, its as if some one wants to make us fight wars and some one else comes along and fings a way of making us all pay.

Those that see it become criminals and those who write about it become deleted and replaced in their history books.

The golden age of mankind was Russia and America fighting a war of who could create.

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>>135176595
even though i dont know what the bible says im not greased up on this subject

i know theres something about shotgun marriages but would god really reward a fornicator and let him marry anyone he wants?

>>135177425
Stop posting this image, it unintentionally makes him look better.

Also
>its Bannon pushing for it,. Bannon, not trump
you liberals would blame this on trump even if it were bernie as president doing it I feel

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>>135174133
>44% tax for porky
Based Comrade Bannon

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>>135176747
70% of kikes are voting for Democrats. Who cares?

(((white people)))

>>135177581
No it is about the father of the defiled daughter being rid of her and forcing responsibility or death upon the fornicator.

The father has been wronged by the fornicater and seeks restitution.

Obviously if it is a nigger it is just honor killing and murders.

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>>135177722
>Who cares?

YEAH WHO CARES ABOUT ALL THESE GOLDMAN SACHS KIKES IN HIS CABINET WHO DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING

>>135176072
I don't care about you. I'm poor (and white btw).

Bannon's proposed tax of 44% for over 5 million is targeted at wages and not business income
This will hit mostly actors and atheletes
Steve knows what he's doing

>>135177942
>I don't care about you. I'm poor (and white btw).

So you will be paying the ((((((((((taxes))))))))) m8.

>>135177981
>Bannon's proposed tax of 44% for over 5 million is targeted at wages and not business income

YES EVERYONHE WILL MAGICALLY PAY THEM AND NOT EXPLOIT LOOPHOLES

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>>135177688
Nationalists are more socially focused than socialists, that's not even a surprise. All our social security system (free education, free healthcare) comes from Franco's dictatorship. Socialists are only good at being kikes' useful idiots.

>>135177820
>goldman sachs kikes
>raises taxes on the rich
sounds like you don't understand the situation.

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>>135177820
>Steve Bannon
>Kike

>>135178127
If they already exploit loopholes why do you want to tax the rich evaders less?

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>>135174133
>posting in this bannon shareblue divide and conquer thread they have posted 28 times in the last 24 hours

>HEY GUYZ, DON'T YA HATE THAT NORMIES ARE GETTING RED PILLED???

>DON'T YA HATE THAT THE MAINSTREAM IS WAKING UP TO OUR SIDE???

>DON'T YA HATE NATIONALISM IS RISING???

>WE MIGHT ACTUALLY WIN OR SOMETHING!!!

>DOESN'T THAT SUCK???

>WE SHOULD STOP THIS!!!

>DON'T YOU AGREE???

Character assassination is when you try to make a person irrelevant because you destroyed the perception of their personality. You try to make it so nobody likes them anymore, so nobody listens to them anymore. You do it when you see that person as a threat.

You can spot it when there's clear spam about a certain person, and asking who benefits from that spam. e.g. /pol/ doesn't benefit from abandoning Lauren Southern. She is starting thousands of normies down the redpill path.

Shareblue/antifa does benefit. This is a shareblue character assassination attempt, using stuff they think will get /pol/ to hate her. Lying about her being jewish is one way. Calling her a slut/racemixer is another. Calling her a coward or weakling is another. etc. etc.

It's to shareblue's benefit if every alt-light and alt-right personality gets entirely discredited so /pol/ no longer has any big voices on their side, and normies stop getting redpilled, which is why they do it.

You cunts are here to try to neutralize /pol/ and the other places you brigade before the 2018 and 2020 elections with your retarded divide and conquer tactics.

All that means is that nationalism is going mainstream, something that should be encouraged at all levels, and it also means you commie pieces of shit are losing bigger than shit.

Die in a fire.

>>135174133
>>135174421
This is a tax on people who make $5 million or more per year. Why the fuck would you, or any one in this thread, care?

>>135176219
>can't into evolutionary psychology
p.s. Islam is right about men and women.

>>135177722
WOW BASED JILL STEIN WTF

>>135176849
Increase taxes of people pulling in over $5million a year? yeah I dont really see a problem to be fair m8 they ain't exactly going to starve. Also bear in mind plenty of rich Liberals were all on board with Bernie Sanders raising taxes on the rich but because it's Drumpf they will now whinge like the little hypocritical bitches they are.

>>135178450
>This is a tax on people who make $5 million or more per year

Anon serious question: Do you believe rich payed 90% under Eisenhower? Or did you get dropped your head.

>>135178582
>Increase taxes of people pulling in over $5million a year?

See>>135178659

>>135178358
>fucking SARGON OF AKKAD on the "shareblue character assassination" picture
W E W
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Yeah we wouldn't want to be divided away from him would we?

Pretty much all of the $5+ million earners are Jews, so who cares.

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>>135178659
just because people end up not paying taxes that just makes them tax avoiders which should be fixed and illegal

it should be illegal to hire an illegal immigrant too

why arent laws made to fix these problems???????

rlly MAKES ONE THINK.

>>135177722

it doesnt matter who voted for who.

What matters is Who supports American Patriotism against who supports those 2 currupt parties.

Nationalism must be the victor, if not than what is the Alternative?

The MSM hates trump Not because he is suposently a Republican, they are foreign funded to hate anybody who is a Patriot.

>>135179150
YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION

>>135174133
Tax for over 5 million earned. Wow. lucky for you part time, minimum wage worker, there's no tax for you. Fuck off and go cry about a real problem.
Fucking neets

>>135180254
>Anon serious question: Do you believe rich payed 90% under Eisenhower? Or did you get dropped your head.

>>135174133

>Bannon proposes 44% tax on 98% of those who fund Democrat "People's" Party

>>135180532
its not actually an argument

maybe donald blumpkin will actually be the 1st person to enforce the taxes

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>>135180784
>maybe donald blumpkin will actually be the 1st person to enforce the taxes

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

The Panama Papers you faggot

He's got offshore accounts everywhere and he's corrupt as fug.

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>>135174133
God I hope this happens. Revolting from the orthodoxy on muh taxez and job-killin reguhlations would permanently destroy the Trump movement and the GOP simultaneously, which would be cause for a joyous celebration for the proletariat.

>>135180892

If What You say is true, than please provide a shred of evidence.

Anything...

Or go back to lefty and contribute overthere

>>135180532
Of course they did. The point is people see there's little point in hoarding money that is gonna get taxed at 90% anyway, so it encourages investment in the company its self, creating higher wages and better conditions for workers - and it worked just as well then as it would now.

>>135174133
>"On the very rich"

I'm all for taxing jews desu

>>135181658
>I'm all for taxing jews desu

YEAH I LOVE WARRE BUFFET HE WANTS MORE TAXES ON HIMSELF WHILE HE BUYS OUT ALL THE NEWSPAPERS IN US

OBAMA 2012!

The only way I would agree to taxing the rich more is if there were no more free gibs for people to abuse. But then you wouldn't need to tax the rich more if there were no more gibs in the first place.

I guess if the point is to try and actually bring down our massive debt, while at the same time ending free gibs abuse, then I could agree to it until the debt is paid down.

>>135181496
>If What You say is true, than please provide a shred of evidence.

You're a fucking faggot for not googling

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gobankingrates/panama-papers-leak-donald_b_9897812.html

>Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump appears 3,540 times in the ICIJ database.

>>135174421
> have staff member propose a completely different tax increase than hilldawg
> doesn't affect 99% of Trump voters because they are rural and suburban retards
> equate this with Hillary's fuck-all-non-international-rich-donors plan

WTF I LOVE BERNIE NOW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

The Panama Papers are 11.5 million leaked documents that detail financial and attorney–client information for more than 214,488 offshore entities.[1][2] The documents, some of which dated back to the 1970s, belonged to the Panamanian law firm and corporate service provider Mossack Fonseca,[3] were leaked in 2015 by an anonymous source.[4]

The documents contain personal financial information about wealthy individuals and public officials that had previously been kept private.[5] While offshore business entities are legal, reporters found that some of the Mossack Fonseca shell corporations were used for illegal purposes, including fraud, tax evasion, and evading international sanctions.[6]

"John Doe", the whistleblower who leaked the documents to German journalist Bastian Obermayer[7][8] from the newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ), remains anonymous, even to the journalists on the investigation. "My life is in danger", he told them.[9] In a May 6 statement, John Doe cited income inequality as the reason for his action, and said he leaked the documents "simply because I understood enough about their contents to realise the scale of the injustices they described". He added that he had never worked for any government or intelligence agency and he expressed his willingness to help prosecutors if immune to prosecution. After SZ verified that the statement did come from the Panama Papers source, the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) posted the full document on its website.[10][11]

>>135181903
>>135182042
>cites PuffHo
>doesn't even archive
SANDERS/WARREN 2020
Fucking faggot

>>135182042
Don't give them traffic
https://archive.is/G0Ozi

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>>135182002
>you wouldn't need to tax the rich more if there were no more gibs in the first place.

What planet do you actually live on?

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>>135182120
Trump is clearly the man of the people. I mean sure he's got Goldman Sachs in his cabinet, but it's 349347394873948374 d chess!

>>135178999
Fuck yeah

>>135174133
>44% tax rate
Seems like a no brainer. 50% would be more like it since the rich can afford advisors to help them hide their money in tax free offshore accounts.

>>135174133
>I agree Bannon/Trump we should increase taxes on JEWISH BANKERS AND MEDIA MAGNATES to giving to NIGGERS and SPICS

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Mark my words: this will be the nail in the coffin. The alliance between the idiot white ethno-nationalists and the cocksucker ancaps/Randians was never going to last long because of this. The mainstream Republicans are far too committed to defending those who have enough $ to defend themselves to ever support anything that might redistribute any of the wealth they create back to them.

Trumpism was a meme.

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>>135182571
>>135182595
>>135182601

>>135182042
Oh my god his name APPEARS??? Tell me it ain't so!!

>>135182314
> criticize Trump for Bannon's idea that Trump hasn't publicly even confirmed he's listened to yet

>>135182695
>Oh my god his name APPEARS??? Tell me it ain't so!!

Well over 3,000 times you faggot

You think we are stupid? He's corrupt as fucking and will be caught money laundering by Mueller. That's why the orange faggot wants to fire him.

>>135182736
Bannon worked at Goldman Sachs with the very "jews" you claim to hate.

>>135182314
There is literally nothing wrong about being Jewish

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>>135174133
Jews*
>ftfy

>>135182902
Kochs for the most part use their money to PREVENT monopolies They are the last real private wealth left in US

Despite contrary benefit, most rich in US are white anglos.

Mercers is shit

Soros is shit

>>135182902
I never understand how liberals can be okay with defending ol' Georgie.

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>>135183075
Uh huh, uh huh.

>>135183230
Get rid of the "anarchist" flag statist

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>>135183192
>liberals
See flag.
>defending
You need to get better at understanding words you read.

>>135183433
You are a liberal not an anarchist.

Kill yourself Chomsky scum.

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>>135183292

Pic related.

As far as taxes, I'll be completely against them the second the parasitic capitalist class stops robbing employees of their created value.

>>135183593
(((((((((((((((anarcho-communism)))))))))))))))

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>>135183579
>thinks a Lolthbard gave the "true" definition of anarchism over a century after the word was defined

>doesn't understand that "liberal"=capitalist.

>>135174133
WE'D ANNIHILATE THE DEMS

It's only on people with 5mill a year or more, that's only like 1% of the population that's already rich beyond belief.

>>135174133
Most people making over $5 million/year are probably Jews, not whites you ignorant turd

Or are you still waiting for that trickle down?

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>>135183729
>Has never read Marx
>Doesn't know the word "Communism" = stateless society
>Is no older than 16

>>135183917
>Has never read Marx

You know what board you are posting on right?

>>135183911
>Most people making over $5 million/year are probably Jews, not whites you ignorant turd

If you seriously believe this kill yourself faggot

>>135174133
Shut your whore mouth. Bannon is based and always has been.

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>>135183911
>are you still waiting for that trickle down?

To hear the supply-siders tell it, it already has been trickling down and somehow we just haven't noticed. Also that the stats showing wage stagnation for 99% over the last 40 years is fake news.

>>135184038
>Bannon is based and always has been.

Bannon is a zionist, did nothing to stop bombng Syria, worked for Goldman Sachs, is a civic natioanlist

You sure about that?

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>>135183976
>posts on a very stupid board
>thinks that means not reading is good

>>135184262
/lefty pol/

>>135174133
>HEY! Why do you want to TAX the fat cats??

>We need to enrich them further,
>because the fat cats will develop incontinence at some point of their degenerate decadence,
>and then it will trickle down!

>>135174133
"steve bannon said a thing and we're going to present just one little piece of what he said without detailing his further plan or what sort of other measures he plans to institute to make his economic policy work" like can people be stupid to think things are really this simple? don't know tax code is a little more simple than just the rate you pay based on your income? there are ways to write tax code so that if you're spending and reinvesting (which is what is necessary and builds the economy) you don't get hit. i don't know the first thing about bannons plan specifically but just yelling "reeeeeee" because bannon said "maybe we should raise taxes on the rich" isn't really right.

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>>135184550

>>135183917

>first we need every aspect of life and economy to be run by the state
>then we can get rid of it lol

You do know only 16 year olds and brainwashed retards believe communism is anything other than an autistic fantasy right?

>>135174133
>(((white people)))

>>135174133
Lolol you mean tax those dirty kikes to give back to white middle class families right?

>>135184254
It's almost like there's reasons he quit Goldman Sachs. And he was a tool for Trump's elections anyway.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/trumps-syria-strike-is-sign-of-bannons-waning-influence.html
There should be a wealth tax against corporations and more trust busting to promote competition. Huey Long had the right idea, it's why he got assassinated.

>>135174133
>I agree Bannon/Trump we should increase taxes on JEWS to giving to NIGGERS and SPICS

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>>135184732
>Strawman

Nope. We need to abolish the state and capitalism yesterday. You're confusing Communism, a stateless society free of profit, wages and money, with Leninism, an authoritarian philosophy which claimed it would eventually lead to Communism but never did and never would have, as ancoms said from the very beginning.

>only 16 year olds and brainwashed retards believe communism

Pic related

>>135174421
We already knew Trump was open to social welfare, we don't care.
The point is to restrict immigration, not to promote your lolbertardian delusions

>>135184732
You are living in a system of capitalism of which taxation is an inseparable part. Can't Live off the slaves and not pay to give them enough that they are dying while They slave away for the rich.

>>135184021
Oy vey
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4099803,00.html
Bill Gates isn't a Jews and he has no problem with philanthropy unlike the kikes.

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>>135185108
You say this but when you actually have to pay you will be regretting this

>>135185108
>Lolbert autists vs trailer park Nazis

The schism is starting. It's gonna be so much fun to watch.

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>>135185080
Yeah, I weigh the expertise of economists when considering economics of communism! And also common sense! And also a massive historical bank of data that says communism is shit!

>>135185294
Would gladly pay 80% taxes to see these foreigners deported

>>135185080

>a stateless society free of profit, wages and money

That's possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read here. You think people will pay 1/5 of a chair they made for a monthly pass on a porn website?

Let's be honest. You're a loser. You can't compete in a capitalist society because you're a total pleb so you want to bring everyone else down to your level.

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>>135185080
Muh not real communism argument

>>135185294
yeah we all make $5 million and more here

It's not like we are useful idiots for the super rich or anything

>>135174762
>gibs
That's not what the kike tax will go to.

>WHITE PEOPLE

They're Jews.

We must destroy every system that benefits the jew

Low taxes on the top 1% (jews)
Copyright for music and film
Lack of available gas chambers

>>135185378
>starting
Newfag detected
ur probably under 6'2" as well lmso

>>135184550
>>135185080
Shareblue up to $76/hour and a pat on the head I see.
DWS's dirty laundry will put your boss in jail. Have fun.

>>135185464
>expertise of economists
Yeah, the "expertise" of guys who get paid by corporate-funded lolbertarian think-tanks to peddle capitalist propaganda
>historical data
Yeah? Which data is that?

>inb4 list of state-capitalist or social democrat countries

I am a faggot. That is all.

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>>135175245
>>135174762
>>135174435
>>135174421
Butthurt kike that his tribe will get taxed.

>>135185080
Fuck off. The state is good and you are just a spoiled cunt. Only the state can end
Capitalism. Eurasian NazBol forever!

>>135184586
I think that over 50% of Americans will be ok with this.

>>135174133
Trump voters are mostly rural and suburban retards, this doesn't affect them.

>>135185484
Yeah. I heard the NJ is infested with Italians. Italy is fine now. They should go back.

>>135185884
OH THAT'S RIGHT IT WAS $75 A WEEK WASN'T IT?

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>>135186120
Lol funny coming from a trumpfag

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>>135185506
>More strawman

Why do anti-Communists insist on ranting about a subject they know nothing about? I don't go around telling people how stupid their gardening techniques are, because I've never had a garden. Yet every moron in the Western world with an Internet connection thinks their opinion on Communism is valid.

>>135185518
It's not my fault you don't read anything about the real world. For the record, there's no real free market capitalism, either - if there ever was, the world would cease to exist in rapid time.

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>>135185884
>Thinks an ancom supports Clintonism

Remember what we did at the WTO?

>>135185740
>They're Jews.

Sure is summer in here

>>135186560

Not an argument.

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>>135186560
>For the record, there's no real free market capitalism, either - if there ever was, the world would cease to exist in rapid time.

This, capitalism left alone does. not. WORK.

>>135186144
How many states have successfully ended capitalism, then?

And how many states have successfully instituted Communism? None, because by Marx's very definition Communism has no state?

>>135186560
You're either an actual idiot or an employee of the DNC. Considering how flaccid your deck of interchangeable memes are and how you're responding to every post with long screeds of fuck-all I'm guessing the latter.

>>135186847
Your strawman of Communism was not an argument either, autist.

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>>135186486
>n-no yu le drumpfkin
Pathetic kike

>>135186874

>my vague idealistic version of communism where everyone lives happily has never been tried

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME

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>>135187074
LOL kikes playing a good disinfo campaign.

>>135174762
>mfw noticing Donny

>>135174133
>WHITE PEOPLE
Are we pretending that Jews are white again? Why?

>>135187299
>Are we pretending that Jews are white again? Why?

>LEL WHITES ARE ALL POOR IN US

Uh no sweetie

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>>135187021

>>135186030
>Y-yeah, the "expertise" of guys who get paid by corporate-funded lolbertarian think-tanks to peddle capitalist propaganda

as opposed to postmodernist-addled sociopaths who indoctrinate fresh-faced young adults that communism is just fuckin' fantastic and isn't the biggest violator of human rights in history?

>Y-yeah? W-which data is that?

This is a pretty good rundown:
>>135185518

>>135187094
Again, the fact that you don't know the definitions of the words you use is your fault, not mine.

As far as "never been tried", forms of my "idealistic version" has indeed existed. It just hasn't existed at the state-level; which makes perfect sense, since it's by definition stateless.

>>135187021

Ok kid, answer these questions;

>free of profit, wages and money

How do people exchange goods and services globally without money?

Without profit as a motive, why would anyone provide these services?

What happens to people who don't feel like working?

What happens to people who do not want to take part in this retarded utopian fantasy?

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One of the few things good old Trump has done right so far.
Eat the rich.

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>>135187074
Trump is a jew

>I want the Jews to have the millions of dollars a year they totally earned
Faggot republicucks believe this

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Trump is a jew

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>>135187173
>bu-but DRUMPF
Keep scrambling parasite

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>>135187768
Trump is a jew

>>135187347
I never said that, but the tribe makes up over 40% of the 1%, saying that this is a tax on white people is a blatant lie.
Is 'sweetie' the best you can do? Do you think I am 5 or something?

>>135187478
Communism will work with spherical chickens in a vacuum.

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>>135187768

Only ancucks would disagree with Bannon. The rich are the ones storing all the money and spending fractions to finance leftist agendas. Fuck them.

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>>135187367
>Communism is biggest vialoter of human rights in history

Really? A stateless society where money and wages have been abolished is the biggest violator of human rights in history? Source?

>inb4 Black Book of Communism

Capitalism killed more than 100 million in five years alone, using their same methodology. And that's a conservative estimate.

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>>135174655

spoken

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>>135187845
Whites are not going to accept hand their tax dollars over to niggers and spics

All your talking points are mute Fuck off.

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>>135187987
This kills (literally) the capcuck

>>135187528

Answer to all your questions:

>What is Anarchism? by Alex Berkman, Anarchism - From Theory to Practice by Daniel Guerin, and basically anything by Peter Kropotkin

>>135187987

>A ""stateless"" society where food and freedom have been abolished

Fixed that for you kid.

>>135188101
Seizing the memes, I see. Saved comrade.

>>135188490

>comrade

You have to be over 18 to post here m8

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>>135186560
my 100,000,000 lives are a strawman. Keep attending your jr college reddit, one day you might get a part time job at starbucks so you can afford to move out of your parents.

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>>135188490
Here is another spicy one comrade

>commies hijacking a thread about taxes to autistically screech about their ideology rather then tackling the actual issues
every fucking time
you guys are worse then the ancaps

>>135174133

I'm okay with this. It'll get the rich and their offspring off their asses and actually work and innovate themselves.

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>>135187987
>tateless society where money and wages have been abolished

Start your faggy revolution already so we can just kill you, since you're clearly incapable of learning. Commies are not people.

THE KIKES FEAR BANNON

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>>135188646
The USSR was communist, the means of production were publically owned. Keep defending your failing capitalism system though.

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>>135188546
Says the person whose every post revels in the fact that he has never read anything about subjects he freely talks about as if he understands them.

>talking about things you don't understand
is the hallmark of youth kid.

>>135188646
Capitalism killed more than that in five years.
>>135187987

Also, Communism is a stateless society. When did a stateless society kill 100 mil?

>>135178659
>back when America was great top people taxed 90%
>((they)) are under control thanks to the tax rates
>build the highway system
>learn of ((their)) plan to use wars to make money, call them out on it

>all the senator and congress man see is votes to appease their constituents, build the barrel in one state, build the turret in the other, build the engine in another. Appeasing the voters and getting them those sweet votes to help the friendly merchant

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>>135188733
>>135188952
Forgetting my flag

>>135188827
>Capitalist class
>off their asses and actually work and innovate themselves

>>135174133
45 posts by this id HOLY SHIT op is autistic spurg that is incapable of losing an election. Hillary lost get over it, go vote in 3 years like a normal person and take a chill pill. r/politics is for faggots and this copy and past spam is cancer just like the discord you crawled out of.

>>135188952
Then why did Lenin himself call the USSR a state-capitalist system?

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>>135188975

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>>135188827
you underestimate how many of the rich are jewish

>>135189149
The USSR thrived mostly thanks to Lenin's force of personality, imo.

>>135189209
Hes a r/politics retard that is trying to be "edgy" to disguise himself

>>135174133
>tax (((them)))
>use money to lower payroll taxes
>niggers and spics either don't work or work under the table
>plan doesn't give them a dime
SOLVED

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>>135189209
The (((capitalists))) fear communism

>>135189381
a lot of communist systems were founded or funded mainly by jews
like the USSR
the gernans had a hand in that too

>>135189381
You can never escape the jew craft we are forever trapped, no matter the society

>>135188975

You have not said anything worthwhile since you began posting, just spouting the same moronic commie mantra that kids with no life experience do.

>>135187528

Answer these questions, don't just refer me to some obscure book that I have no intention of reading.

>>135189549
gotta go to spess
they can't be everywhere out among the stars

>>135174133
TAX ADVERTISING!

TAXES SHOULD FLUCTUATE BASED ON SUPPLY AND DEMAND relevant to exports, nothing else. If you tax the rich at a percent where you lose money, you're fucking retarded.

I don't know why so many republicans are falling for neolib "economics" as though they actually exist.

>>135189295
Ok, but he called the Soviets state-capitalist, not Communist (see his New Economic Policy). He believed Communism would be the end result, in the future, of the system he worked to build.

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>>135188975
You bitch about strawmen... then say, capitalism killed 100mil every 5 years. Whew lawd, I take back you are a jr college student, you are not done with middle school. I'm done I don't argue with literal children, see you in a couple months when it's not summer.

>>135189674
Because Republicans are useful idiots and class traitors. Like Dems.

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>>135188975
>Because not paying for food for someone on the other side of the world is the same as people being violently purged and buried in mass graves.

Here's a clue, faggot; there's no such thing as stateless communism. It necessitates a central hierarchy to ensure that it's retarded, overreaching philosophy remains propped up until everyone under it dies.

>>135174133
Taxing the rich is a bad thing, now.

t. Democrats

>>135189666
one word
>Space Jews

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>>135189776
>can't refute sources
>just ad homs

Slither away. We will bury you.

>>135189763
I've seen a lot of really smart people argue that when UBI and the like are implemented, when we are in a post-scarcity society, then communism will be able to actually work.
I think we're some time off that yet, but capitalism AND communism have provided advancements that are getting us there.
Also, didn't a lot of prominent communists say that communism was the natural state a human society would generally gravitate too?
So why do so many commies want to violently overthrow the government and murder millions?
Have they never heard of the saying "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword"?

>>135190046
I got that reference
been forever since I've seen space balls

>>135189969
>violent purges and mass graves

Account for a tiny fraction of the "100 million number".

>stateless Communism

is the only kind of Communism, as Marx said.

>central hierarchy
>Communist society
Pick one.

>>135190080

Watch out with that edge senpai or your mom will be hearing about this.

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>>135190080
>can't refute sources
>just ad homs

Just let me know when you decide to revolt, comrade.

>>135190080
That would require physical strength to use a shovel, something that hard to come if you never leave your rapidly ageing parents basement.

>>135190154
We already are advanced enough to not need capitalism. Moreover, we don't need to reach a certain level of "advancement" before overthrowing a system predicated on the theft of working people.

>>135174133
isn't Bannon a Stalinist NatSoc?

>>135175614
that's a man baby

>>135190442
So if i had an island and i invited all of your reddit buddies to live there and create an anarcho utopia with no outside interaction would you do it? and how would it work?

>>135190442
m8 we don't even have a backup planet, or the industrial infrastructure capability to sustain that yet.
And I rather think,. since there are exceedingly few communist nations still going out there, that most are gonna be cautious about that like me.
And violent overthrow of any system will just leave a legacy of hatred and resentment, I mean hell, the brits still give us shit especially on here about breaking away from them violently.
And there's all the mistakes the soviets did with places like Afghanistan and africa

>>135190790
it wouldn't work since no single island on the world has all of the resources to functionally fully independently.

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>>135186120
More like waxxed. We need to burn the candle at both ends.

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>>135190286
>is the only kind of Communism, as Marx said.

>>135191137
Wouldn't any form of anarchy based society collapse into tribalism and totalitarianism just because people will form into groups and consolidate power?

>>135191528
Pretty much, yeah. You need some kind of government, even though ancaps won't want to hear it. The key is to keep government as small and accountable as possible; have it serve only the most vital functions that the free market can't.

>>135190790
Perhaps. Morally, I think I would be conflicted, since I believe firmly it is each individual's responsibility to prioritize combating injustice where they are, not packing it in for a better place the second they can. But, it would be a pretty tempting offer.

As far as how it would work, since you're including "no outside interaction" (I'm assuming that includes "no external coercion/sabotage/invasion"), similar to the anarchist society in Revolutionary Spain. For more details, Bakunin, Kropotkin and Berkman are the guys you wanna read.

Of course, that's all hypothetical. In the real world, such a society would instantly become an enemy of pretty much every state on the planet. Which is why I firmly believe ancom can only succeed on a global scale in the context of a worker's revolution.

>>135191137
I mean I do think the guy who (along with Engels) came up with the idea ought to get to define it, yeah? If not, then I am in support of whatever he was talking about in "The *insert
word you like here* Manifesto".

>>135191528
Even once money is abolished and "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"? What evidence do you have for that?

>>135191929
>t. Gary Cohn

>>135192514
>Even once money is abolished

Stopped reading

>>135192514
People will just find something else to horde, most likely food or protection. I can see the ideology working in small groups but on a continental scale with millions of people there can be a lot of space to build up power and exploit others.

>>135190920
>Communist nations
is an oxymoron, because Communism is stateless. The Soviets themselves would tell you that. They did believe their system would eventually lead to Communism, but they did not believe they had reached Communism.

>violent overthrow

is not always unjustified. The American Revolution was no walk in the park.

>>135174133
>1%
>White People
Jews are not white.
http://politicsinn.com/48-percent-of-u-s-billionaires-are-jewish/

>>135193058

Answer my questions, they're very simple ones.

>>135189640

>>135193025
Why would people horde more food than they can eat? To sell it? But money is gone, there are no sales. To trade for things? But they don't need to trade for things, as they have free access to the same things everyone else has free access to.

Seriously, I know it's a tall task, but you should read What is Anarchism? by Alexander Berkman. It's available free here:
https://libcom.org/files/Berkman%20-%20What%20Is%20Anarchism.pdf

You don't even have to read the full thing, just use search and type in words you wanna see an ancom-oriented response to. He answers all of the common objections, and unlike most anarchist material, it's very readable, written in conversational, straightforward prose for anybody to easily grasp without having to re-read every sentence a dozen times.

>>135174133
Trump literally said he'd cut taxes for the average American.

Hope Bannon gets BTFO'd by Donald

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>>135192514

>once money is abolished

That's real retarded sir.

>>135193444
Na. You've proven yourself to be a pretty arrogant moron, and now you're commanding me to do your homework for you. Not to mention some of those questions are so easy for you to answer that you don't even need any resources beyond common sense, if you had any.

>>135174133
>>135174421
>>135174435
>>135174762
>Lets raise taxes on the highest bracket so we could fund more cuts on the bottom brackets
What exactly is wrong with this?

>>135193694

>But they don't need to trade for things, as they have free access to the same things everyone else has free access to.

What does that even mean?

Serious question, have you ever had a job?

>>135194028

So you're telling me via a long pointless post that you're not willing to answer simple questions, because it's too much work for you?

>>135194031
Because they still haven't grasped that trickle down economics was a trick by the rich to raise spending on government subsidization of their corporations while shifting the tax burden to lower incomes.

tax the very rich into killing themselves
anyone on here shilling for the Corportocracy is a fucking retard. youre defending the same people who are flooding the country w shitskins and are the reason you cant get hired anywhere.


Bannon is looking out for us, boys. stop shilling for rich liberals like Jeff Bezos when millions of whites are broke as fuck.
The second the ((((very rich)))) get taxed, SMALL BUSINESS EXPLODES

Its like youre all retards or something

>>135194451

I'm a wealthy business owner. I make more in a day that you will this year. I can go wherever I want and do whenever I want. Which is why I have a frog flag right now.

Meanwhile the people I employ are happy to be working for me, they know that without me they wouldn't be able to pay their rent.

Does this upset you?

>>135194251
It means exactly what it says it means.

>ever had a job?
Of course. I live in a capitalist society, I have to have one to live a decent life. But like most people, I kinda don't like working on shit I hate to make other people rich purely out of necessity, and would prefer to work on things I like and am actually interested in. In fact, I work much harder when I do the latter than the former. Do you not feel the same?

>>135195017

>would prefer to work on things I like and am actually interested in

Start your own business then you fucking pleb.

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>>135194973
Of course it upsets me, just as it upsets the employees you rob, regardless of your self-delusion.

We will bury you.

>>135195189
>rob others or get robbed

I'd prefer to just end robbery.

>>135195212

That's where you're wrong kid. My employees are my friends.. I've known most of them since school.

They have nothing but respect and gratitude for the opportunity.

>I'd prefer to just end robbery

And you think destroying the economy/society will do that? Grow up.

>>135194973
good for YOU!

Now, do you employ 10 people? 100? 1000? 10000? how """wealthy"" are you? do you just have all that on credit and are fueling the banking jews?
Im only mad at you if youre a globalist corporatist fuck who has the resouces to lobby congress for you to buy a second yacht when Paris and London are literally exploding from all the shitskin """workers"""

>>135195501

>credit and are fueling the banking jews
>globalist corporatist fuck
>lobby congress for you to buy a second yacht

I can smell the summer from here. Fuck off kid.

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>>135195496
>And you think destroying an economy/society built on robbery will end robbery?

Yes.

>>135195825

>built on robbery

No. It was built on freedom of exchange and enterprise.

I have never stolen or tricked anyone. I provide (online) services that people are free to use or not use.

>>135195825

I'm off to bed now, I have a flight to catch in the morning.

One last thing. You better hope this "stateless/moneyless" society you want never comes true, because if it does it will be people like me who will be taking your shit (not that you likely have anything) and making you my bitch.

You can change the game, but the players will be the same.

>>135196602
lmao, this guy is such a fag
>kid
>waving money
nobody gives a fuck about you Senpai, we all want you strung up

>>135195787
its pathetic that youre defending any of these things about yourself.
all your worldly needs are met. instead you scold those whose needs aren't and see yourself as one of the people that people want to take their needs from.


Why can you just not leave us alone? why pip up and demand respect because of the zeroes in your bank? why be a fucking NIGGER OVER MONEY, DUDE?

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>>135174133
>increasing taxes for the top 1%
>implying that's bad

Shlomo detected.

>>135198842
>>135199146

You seem a little upset. Are you jelly I'm a successful man while you're a poor bitch who does't have the intellect to make money? Seems like it tbqh.

>>135175614
>welfare on white people
>Implying any respectable white person needs welfare

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>>135199900
>They will pay those taxes

LOL

>>135174421
FPBP

Slay queen, slay.

>>135174133

Taxing the rich is anti-semetic.

>>135186874
>How many states have successfully ended capitalism, then?
The USSR did throughout half of the world you anarchist nigger.