Syria General /sg/- A E S T H E T I C Druze Beast Edition

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DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO ENGLAND
DEATH TO ISRAEL
DEATH TO SAUDI
DEATH TO KURDS
DEATH TO TURKS
DEATH TO UAE
DEATH TO INDIA
DEATH TO FRANCE
DEATH TO BELGIUM
DEATH TO HOLLAND
DEATH TO UKRAINE
DEATH TO CATALONIA
DEATH TO YAHOODI
DEATH TO WAHHABI
DEATH TO MARAKESH
DEATH TO DIRTY SADDAMIST

>>134750411

that shit looks like the next far cry

>>134750491
I don't think the frenchies are brave enough for it.
Besides, Far Cry works best in jungles, not deserts.

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>>134750411
How long until DeZ?

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>>134750671
soon

>>134750491
>>134750633
Far cry 2 and 4 were the best. pagan min and the jackal did nothing wrong.

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DEZ WILL BE LIBERATED IN SEPTEMBER

>>134750491
Anyone who has chosen sex with crazy Rakyat chick over their friends in FC3 needs to jump off a cliff.

>>134750671
Unironically very soon now.

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50 kms from DeZ hype

>>134750633
frenchie ?
the game is developped by canadians
>inb4 french canadians
still not really france

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>>134750732
>we live in an age where you can virtually download and 3d-print ANYTHING

>>134750852
Is kilomeme back on the menu, boys?!

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>>134750800
>>134750732
Will it be a bigger happening than the liberation of Aleppo?

>>134750743
Agreed, 3 was cringy
>we wuz ancient warrior n shieeet

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>>134750671
By Christmas inshallah

>>134750933
wasn't there one where you hunted mammoths and shit?

>>134750411

is he baneposting irl as CIA?

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>>134750978
dont jinx it dude.

>>134750743
i use to find 2 to be really crap
then i watched Apocalypse now and it became my favorite movie
the i realized how full of references to AN/HOD and i began to love it

>>134750904
tempted to get a chinky 3d printer, convince me otherwise.

>>134751004
That's far cry primal

>>134751022

I found 2 was quite boring

The only Far Cry I've enjoyed so far was blood dragon

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>#SAA & Tribal Fighter Forces led by Tigers Liberate ~500 km2 south #Raqqa CS, Fire-controlling Ghanim Ali - Bishri Triangle

Via Syrian MoD

>>134751057
never trust chinkshit

>>134750853
French Canadian are the biggest SJW KEKS.

>TFW thq died

F

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>>134751006

>>134750966
>not at all, on the political compass one can have centrist views but the policy one wants can be radically different to the current status quo in any given country


The "center" of any political compass is the center of the current Overton window.
In that sense, the centrist views are always what is currently the pop culture view.
Not necessarily what the political situation is, if government lacks behind popular opinion, but almost always they will coincide, since such differences auto-correct in democracies.

>>134750927
no, it'll be a glorious bloodbath with most jihadist subhuman casualties having entry wounds in their backs for running away

>>134750904
>>134751057
$1500 is a good tier one

>>134750927
>Will it be a bigger happening than the liberation of Aleppo?
Dont know about you guys but for me yes. Eliminating one of the last major hub of ISIS activity in Syria. Liberating the the Druze and boys from that hell they have been besieged in for the last 4 years.

>>134750306
I missed your request m8

>>134751098
But some chinkshit is k, my KZ earphones are great and 90% of drone shit is chinky but quality.

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meme box spotted on the Lebanese side

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>>134751093
>500km2

Wat

>>134750852
remember the DeZ and Palmyra cats

>>134751197
nah it's perfectly fine your pic was far more on point

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>>134751006

>is he baneposting irl as CIA?

>Implying

>>134751274
20Kmx25km
not that huge

how much of Syria does Assad control IRL? 25%? Sad!

>>134751274
Syria as a whole has 185180 square kilometers

>>134751481
You forgot your burgerproxy.

>>134751149
but the aggregate nature of the political compass would allow one to say they want to, for example, exterminate jews but allow all drugs and the authoritarian-libertarian axis would stay in the middle.

MY point is that if someone gets centrist on political compass doesn't mean you know their exact policy. If there were more axis, for each single policy question, then yes you are absolutly right. But not if it's just economy and social

>>134751631
>but the aggregate nature of the political compass would allow one to say they want to, for example, exterminate jews but allow all drugs and the authoritarian-libertarian axis would stay in the middle.

Oh yeah, of course. I don't think of it that way. I don't call myself "right" for example. I say I have this right view, this left view, etc.
I think in terms of policies, not overall political package. If anyone thinks he is all-rights or all-left on all possible issues, that must be a very deluded person.

>>134751274
The map doesnt include tha dalah-dhakila village and it is still uncertain if SAA controls the desrert in front of the kurdish frontline

>>134751481
You have to realise that most of Syria is a completely barren wasteland, like a desert. Control measured by square meters is misleading. That giant desert could have just a few ISIS members somewhere within it, and hunting them down is obviously impractical, much better to just protect the built-up areas. Relevant measures are how many of the urban areas he controls and how many ISIS members are still estimated to be in the country.

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why is ISIS only fighting the government and letting the Kurds take Raqqa without a fight???

>>134751763
>>134751631
in general a conservative/centrist method of governance inst inherently bad in practice its just that in the west "centrism" is snonamous with the two main parties in the country

so having centrist views isnt bad but "western centrism" ie two part system where both parties are the same
is absolute cancer

>>134752064
Having "centrist" views means you don't have radical views. These can be reactionary (we should go back to X) or progressive (we should advance to X).
If you don't have such views, if you think the systems are fine and we just need to adjust them a bit to improve them, then you are a centrist.

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New thread, new Coalition grill! Go Assad! Go Russia! Go Hezbollah! Go! Go!

>>134751819
Didn't ISIS take back Raqqa Old City?

>>134752064
Try the German system, we managed to make 4.5 parties have the same views.
90% of electable parliament would make Merkel Chancelor again, so much choice

>>134752342
>supporting hezboallah
>literally "the political party of allah"
>the most sharia to ever sharia the earth

pls go

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>>134752252
So what if you mix-match views from different sides of the political spectrum based on what you think works and is good and also seek to enforce those views onto reality?

>>134752398
>Try the German system, we managed to make 4.5 parties have the same views.

Don't half your parties have "center" in their name lel.
Also aren't you ran by a party literally called The Christian party?

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>just talking about FC2 and Apocalpse now
>want to listen to "the end" b the doors
>search up Apocalypse now
>"Apocalypse now game" pops up in suggested search
>W T F.Jpg
>when there making a game
please no

>>134752509
((((Christian)))) ((((party))))

>>134752488
See >>134751763
Its how I view things, I put individual policies on the compass, not collections of policies.
But for most people, they want to think all their views sit on one point, because they can't sit down for 30 minutes and actually consider what their views are.

>>134752584
Isn't that radical centrism?

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>>134750411

>>134752252
> you don't have radical views
you can also be a radical centrist and always push for the status quo no matter what
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism
it's not because your decision is to not move that it means you can't be reactionary

>>134752466
>being this bluepilled

>>134752647
Reactionary is movement backwards. I think all the way back to monarchy in most cases.

>>134752750
>Reactionary is movement backwards
no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary
it's about being always against change wether it's progressivist or conservatist

>>134752466
>literally just a Muslim political party with a vaguely social conservative ideology that is prominent for opposing persecution of Christians
>literally even privately operates welfare programs because it's not that bad
Come on.

>>134752964
you might be the only dixie i know that isn't an interventionist fed on neocon kool aid

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how fucking incompetent is the SDF?

>>134750927
I don't know when, but I do know that the lift of DeZ siege will be shadowed in the mainstream media by some unexpected attack, this time by the FSA. Just when DeZ siege is about to be lifted the entirety of Idlib Jihadee army will start pouring south in a (((weird))) suicidal campaign. If not that than my guess would be that mysterious rebel forces will appear to push SAA away from Iraqi border so that that would be the news of the day.

>>134753101
You seriously underestimate the difficulty of urban combat.

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>>134752466
>shia's
>muslim
they're all kuffar. wot?

>>134752466
>the most sharia to ever sharia the earth
sure but they also garner support from christians in the arab world, as well as have christian troops fighting in syria.

>>134753226
kuffah*

>>134753169
I doubt anything on significant scale would happen without russian aerospace forces detecting it and taking a suitable course of action

>>134753169
>BREAKING: DeZ Siege lif-
3 SCOOPS!?!?!?
>DOOOHANLD DRUUMPF

Can you guys imagine the hype when the SAA and its allies reach Dez? I can't wait.

>Syrian Army marching on Deir Ezzor, new village captured
DAMASCUS, SYRIA (2: 35 P.M.) – The Syrian Armed Forces carry on a full-scale military operation to reach the eastern city of Deir Ezzor amid intensifying battles against the Islamic State.

Led by the SAA’s elite Tiger Forces, the government troops Al Salam Alaykum town located to the Sabkhawi, which was recaptured 2 days ago.

The striking advance made by the Syrian Army comes amid massive ISIS collapse, where jihadists retreat to their bastions along the western bank of the Euphrates.

Meanwhile, government forces, led by the 5th Legion, took over new points and hilltops en route to ISIS stronghold of al-Sukhnah in the Syrian Desert.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-marching-deir-ezzor-new-village-captured/

>>134753492
Easily the best kilomeme

Kuweiris overhyped and inevitable.

Aleppo prison was far better, niggas literally crying and people looking out from the prison with ratty uniforms and long af beards looking shocked. A true lifting of a siege.

>Dozens detained at Ankara protest over imprisoned teachers
BEIRUT, LEBANON (2:35 P.M.) – Police turned water cannons and pepper spray on protesters decrying the arrest of two Turkish teachers in Ankara on Sunday.

Dozens of people were detained as tensions rose between police and protesters.

Academic Nuriye Gulmen and teacher Semih Ozakca were arrested about two months ago for going on hunger strike after losing their jobs under the Turkish emergency decree.
The decree was adopted after the failed coup against the Turkish president Erdogan that took place in July 2016.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/dozens-detained-ankara-protest-imprisoned-teachers/

>>134753742
they're just pushing without any resistance
trap or ISIS regrouping ?

Footage from Arsal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agWsEyx4Xpk

>>134753302
Ok, Maghrebois classic shitpost incoming this is the ORIGINAL, DO NOT use for the new OC, I have yet to reword it. Also the the last part about tendies doesn't need to go in, I'm only going to include it in this next post because it's hilarious and you need to see the whole thing because you can't appreciate it unless you see the entire shitpost. Let me know what you think as far as the length of the text and if it would look ok. Standby.

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Meanwhile in Raqqa..

>>134753492
Sure breaking the year logn siege of an international bloodthirsty terrororganisation/nation might sound great, but have you thought about the poor German girls who suffered under them and under the brutal assault of the Assad regime?
She is literally still a baby, haven't you also done stupid stuff when you were small?
Drinking underage and participating in a worldwide terrororganisation is basically the same.

Assad might have a huge victory, but let's not forget that there can never be peace with him


aaaand so on. The media would rather get cramps from mental gymnastic than waking up from their hubris

>>134751481
70% of the population so in my eyes 70% of real Syria

>>134752939
>it's about being always against change wether it's progressivist or conservatist
>conservatist change

Thats not what conserve means. You are confusing the two.
Reaction is literally a reaction, you do something, you change in reaction to something.
Conserve is literally conserve, you keep things as they are, you remain the same.

These are basic and super simple english words that mean what they sound like.

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>>134753302
>>134753905
>what the fuck are you talking about? look, the SAA is advancing everywhere and doesn't lose positions, every offensive is successful. You want to know where i follow news? read almasdar, it's pretty based with military sources to them, it's absolutely reliable, read what they say. Stop lying, they never lied and they never promised Arak and Deyrezor offensives before today, they only talked about Tanaf and the offensive is ongoing right now, trust me the SAA is few kms far from Tanaf and they'll take it in few days, can't wait to see Tanaf under government control. Palmyra what?what are you taking about? what ISIS offensive are you talking about? they never retook palmyra lmao go read almasdar. As for Hama, almasdar and the other loyalist medias never lied about what was happening lmao stop being such a liar. No, the moderates never took Manshiya, please stop lying, the medias told that their attacks were repelled so it must be true. N-no the current governmental offensive in Deraa is to retake the few buildings at the southern outskirts of that district, the terrorists have been controlling them since the beginning. What video? p-please s-stop, it was shot in qatar by zionist filmmakers to make people think that terrorists advanced there, now i'm going to blo- n-no i'm not a coward please s-stop harassing m-me and r-read almasdar and NatDefFor they have such good sources they never l-lie !! NO they never lied plea- what proof? IT'S FUCKING FAKE PLEASE N-NOW S-S-STOP ! G-Give me link to see their lying p-posts as you say.. n-no it's i-impossible, syrian geneal p-pasted them it can't be f-false s-stop h-hurr.. h-hurr HURR DURR HURR DURR HURR DURR HURR DURR HUUUUUUUUURRR DUUURRRRRRRRRR
>*cries and goes complaining back to his mommy who prepared him hot tendies before going back to his basement to jerk off to anime drawings*

the state of ass*dists

>>134753942
quick rundown on your pic pls

>>134754022
>Reaction is literally a reaction, you do something, you change in reaction to something.
and you can also be a progressive reactionary when a conservative agenda is used
like i said reactionary is being pro status quo ante
it can come from both sides

>>134753942
is this a shop or real?

>>134752252
I dont like the feft to right spectrum. To the very least we should operate with the 2D authoritarian - libertarian, left-right angle. It would be hard to find pure centrist in that scheme.

For example I am right-wing when it comes to small and medium sized businesses and left wing when it comes to international corporations.
What does it make me?

>>134753942
Is this shit real
What's the context

>>134754208
cancer in it's ultimate form

>>134753942
Can't make it up

>>134753181
Look a gouta in Damascus. Jeeze "The government took two housing blocks"

>>134753302
>>134754070
The pic I included will be the best one to go with it. It can be shrunk down, it doesn't need to be very big, the text is the important thing. I think the asterisks at the beginning and end will be a great touch once I reword it to really convey the autistic screeching

>>134754347
okay

>>134753850
The three pronged offensive by the SAA is keeping ISIS off balance and stopping them from regrouping from what I gather. Media blackout prevents anyone from knowing anything. Gains are reported mby multiple sources and tehn dismissed by another multiple sources keeping everybody not privy to military sources confused. It appears as if a potent psy op campqaign is being waged against ISIS (most likely concocted by the Russians). Combined with the Die ez Zor SAA garrison sometimes infiltrating ISIS territory and blowing up ammo dumps and Raqqah being captured by SDF ISIS appears on its last legs in Syria. But I still wont put it past them to pull some shit.

>>134754227
>conservative agenda
Meaning nothing is changed?

>progressive reactionary
Meaning you want to advance while retreating?
This shit is getting too french for me.

>>134753942
That cannot be real.

>>134753368
>NDF retreating at breathtaking speed

>>134754247
normal conservative who hates neoliberals?

>>134754247
>What does it make me?
Fascist. Which is retarded economically, by the way, as shown by the USA in the last 20 years.
Corporatism at the bigbiz level bailing out 2big2fail losers, while refusing to moderate small business to produce a lot of frauds and cheap crap goods.

>>134753942
>when the gay parade was not enough

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>Whore doing live facebook stream where she stares at the screen and reads some comments, totally ignoring people calling her a whore

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>>134753942

>>134754423
You think it will work with the length of the text? Once I reword it I won't be making it longer, and like I said the last part about tendies won't need to go in, or I may just revise that too to put underneath the pic

>>134753942
that's edited for sure
kurds are dirty commies. but everybody would laugh about them if they were actually accepting of open gayness

>>134753850
In open space of desert ISIS uses mobile defences - driving around it trucks harassing the advancing army while trying to minimize the losses. They do this until they reach some urban area which they defend with boobytraps and tunnels and all that. When Turkey advanced in north Syria they pretty much took all the way to Al Bab without much resistence and then took months trying to capture the city. ISIS in Al Bab had enough time to prepare its defences.

However with the recent push towards the Euphrates valley I dont think they had the manpower to set the defences properly. We will see but the villages along the river might be tough nut to crack. On the other hand they will be pushed towards the river. With SAA using its momentum to crash them like on anvil. Lets see if they break.

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Syriancivilwar map guy is talking repeatedly about a Coevenant between the US and Russia about how the SAA and SDF are gonna advance along the Euphrates, with SDF taking the towns and SAA taking the oil fields.

Is he high or is this leggit what is going on?
I have't heard anything of the similar anywhere else.


https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/6p3mht/syrian_democratic_forces_captured_dalhah_from/dkmb25z/?st=j5i3zv6w&sh=2bab873c

>>134754775
With the way oil prices are, and how easy it is to become a web developer, I'd rather take towns desu.

>>134754471
look man i'll make it simple for you
the whole european political history is a constant drift toward """progressivism"""
the conservative block were the original reactionaries (ie pro status quo ante) but now that the overton window has shift too much to the left, being a conservative isn't asking for a status quo but advocating the move toward traditionalism
when the """"progressives""" asks for a move to more progressivism they are met by reactionary rebuttals from the conservatives that oppose to the move
when conservative ask for a move toward traditionalism the aren't asking for a status quo, they are asking for a shift of the overton window and the progressives that oppose them are the reactionary (ie pro status quo ante)
conservatism=right (to simplify)
progressivism=left (to simplify)
reactionary=opposed to change whether its left or right
a radical centrist is someone who will always oppose change to the political game wether it comes from the right or the left, he is the ultimate reactionary

>>134754775
No covenant exists. Whoever takes it first gets to keep it.

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>>134753101

kek, and their were some here thinking they would take Raqqa in a couple of months

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Does anyone have a high res Hezbollah flag? Need it for a shirt. A big thanks to anyone who can help me. 1920x1200 is the best I have.

>>134754853
Definetly agree and especially weird that the SAA would follow such an agreement, even if a foreign power who doesn'T care at all about your people made the agreement seems sort of reasonable.
>>134755005
So why is the guy with definetly a lot of sources saying such a thing?

>>134755153
Don't be autistic and wear a Hez shirt outside, please.

>>134755153
bruh isnt wearing hezbo clothing kinda
illegal in the EU and usa?

>>134754551
Nah. I am culturally pretty progressives as long nobody shoves it down my throat. Smoke all you want as long as you dont drive and fuck anything you want as long if its conscenting adult.

>>134754577
>fascist
Srsly? Why regulate small businsess when the market is not overwhelmed by one entity and let them compete? While 2big2fail corporations are sometimes more powerful that some governments and need to be watched and regulated way more carefully.

>>134754948
>conservatism=right (to simplify)

But this is wrong, and has always been wrong, and will always be wrong.
Conservative = don't drift left or right, sit where we are.
Reactionary = go back to where we used to be.
Progressive = keep exploring places we haven't been to yet.

This is the compass movement in its most basic, simple form.

>>134754948
hmm, so in certain areas I'm an ultimate reactionary

>>134754673
the size can be adapted, it's never a problem
but what i don't understand is why are you carricaturing assadist ? isn't that supposed to make fun of maghreboi ?

>>134754589
>totally ignoring people calling her a whore

Are all Arab women impervious to being verbally abused by men?

>>134753942
That rainbow flag is very likely not shopped.

>>134753942
Can you link the pic?

>>134755234
You only talked about the economic axis. How the hell would one know your social ideas?
Of yourse I was only refering to your economic stance in US political terms

>>134754775
Sounds like bullshit, its the land grab phase of the Syrian civil war and both powers are helping their proxies capture much as they can. Because once ISIS is gone (as in not an army that can mount any real offensive) there will be clashes between SDF and SAA.

>>134755234
>>fascist
>Srsly?

Yes. Look at all the big italian, german, japanese manufacturers, they were all created (or made rapid growth) during fascist corporatism days.
You can see a microcosm of this in the USA, because there is fascist/corporate culture when it comes to military industry, pharmaceutical industry, car production, soda production, pesticides, corn&milk, etc.
The government will work with the biggest businesses, make policy such that it helps them, and overall the laws and government rules not to help the individual man, but to help these corporations that are now part of the government more or less.

>>134753942
So is it real?

>>134754948
>a radical centrist is someone who will always oppose change to the political game wether it comes from the right or the left, he is the ultimate reactionary
No. That's exactly why they are called "radical", because they accept and seek change, instead of being just reactionaries.
>The "radical" in the term refers to a willingness on the part of most radical centrists to call for fundamental reform of institutions.[3]

>>134755230

>mfw saw a Hezb flag at an apartment window once.

Felt good and uneasy at the same time.

>>134755559
i dont think brazil consideres hezbollah a terrorist org

>>134755504
>someone who will always oppose change to the political game wether it comes from the right or the left
This is a conservative.

>he is the ultimate reactionary
Reactionary means you want to go back to politics before the two world wars.

>>134755153
how big you want it senpai?

>>134755660

It doesn't.

>>134755228
I know it's autistic, but I wouldn't wear it in public places, I'm not that stupid.
>>134755230
Not in Italy.

>>134755293
No, that's why I'm saying I have to reword it to be as if it was Maghrebois, he posted this as if he was Syrian Geneal, one of our regulars, this is really where the HUGE IF TRUE meme started, this was at the height of HUGE posting. Once I rewrite it I'll post it again as if it was Maghrebois talking positively about the FSA and it will make more sense.

>>134755704
As big as you can, my hero.

>>134755289
being an ultima reactionary is having no political ideology set for the matter
basically you're satisfied with the result of the tug of war of the progressives and conservatives of the overton window
either you genuinely like the final decision by having a real opinion or you just eat whatever the political trend is and don't try to make a stand about the matter

>>134753181
They certainly outnumber ISIS 10 to 1 by now and they have air support, plus their opponent is hopelessly demoralized.

>>134753091
That's sad. The CSA should hate America, not support Yankee foreign policy.

>>134755295
>calling her a whore
>verbally abused
is it verbal abuse when it's true ?

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>>134754765

remember the end time kilomemes during this offensive? Pepridge Farm remembers.

>Large defections from rebel camp to ISIL in east Lebanon
BEIRUT, LEBANON (3:00 P.M.) – A large number of rebel fighters have defected from their factions to the Islamic State (ISIL) in east Lebanon, Hezbollah media relations reported on Monday.

According to the Lebanese group’s official media wing, the rebel defections involved at least 30 fighters and one commander that was loyal to Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham.

Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham is considered one of the largest rebel factions in Syria and arguably the most powerful group currently fighting the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) across the country.

With the consolidation of militant groups in eastern Lebanon, the battle for ‘Arsal will likely intensify as the Islamic State grows stronger due to the defections.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/large-defections-rebel-camp-isil-east-lebanon/

>>134755153
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups

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>>134755818
want the yellow background?

>>134755828
on the gay marriage question or trans or whatever I'm exactly that. I don't care what the current stance it but there is no need to change it in either direction

>>134755795
It was an actual Maghrebois shitpost, I saved it and always planned on rewordingit to post back at him, but I never revised it and of course he's gone now, so I just kept it saved waiting for the day if he ever came back

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>>134755727
oh alright then

>>134755828
Thats not what reactionary fucking means holy shit.
Reactionary means wanting to return to "the good old times". Its reverse-progressive.
In practical terms, it means wanting to return to monarchy and pre-WWI politics, including war, colonies, no female vote, etc.

>>134753101
didnt the turks and iraqi take forever taking al-bab and mosul respectively though?

I got the impression taking cities was pretty fucking hard.

>>134755990
It's ok just like that. Big thanks to you, man!

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>>134756434

>>134755283
>don't drift left or right, sit where we are.
the definition of reactionary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary
>A reactionary is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante, the previous political state of society

>Reactionary = go back to where we used to be
and by where we used to be it's before the political push

in todays context most reactionaries are conservatives because they are fighting against progressives' drift
if a conservative asks for the criminalisation of adultery where it has been already legalised, then he is doing a push of the overton window and the progressives will be the reactionaries.
the "go back to where we used to be" would be going back to the progressive status quo ante
the reason why people confuse reactionary with conservative is because all the pushes so far has been toward more progressivism, and when people are asking to go to the right, they are seen as reactionaries, but the political center is what it is during the present so what is called "going back" isn't the drift to the right but the left asking to revert to the old position that is now accepted as the new center

reactionary is staying where the center of the overton window is, and today the center isn't where it used to be

>>134754245
https://twitter.com/IRPGF/status/889445690656608256

>>134756316
Mosul is massive in comparison and Al Bab took about 3 months because
>T*rks

>>134755990
I'd want it if it's no hassle

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>>134756446
you know
i can probably get a flag for you, whadaya say?

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>>134755855
>They certainly outnumber ISIS 10 to 1 by now and they have air support,
Yeah, but that's the thing about urban combat. Outnumbering your enemy doesn't matter that much when you can't bring those numbers to bear on the enemy. Concentrating the firepower posed by those troops would work out in the desert, but in the tight confines of the city it doesn't.
Air support likewise is ineffective, both due to difficulties in identifying targets and the fear for collatteral, civilian damage.
It takes time and casualties to defeat an enemy in urban combat and to avoid difficulties, you would have to have superhuman situational awareness, incredible military intelligence, perfect coordination between any and all units, lots of portable heavy weapons and battlefield command and control that no military power on Earth has achieved. The Americans are probably closest to it with their numerous projects.

>>134756497
sure, I understand the roaches being inept. But isnt raqqa comparable in size to mosul?
Just taking the old town district took forever.

Has the takeover of Idlib by HTS something to do with the end of CIA aid to the "rebels"?

I mean, now that they're not getting aid any longer they don't need a cover

>>134756483
Your own link that you keep posting argues you WRONG.
Status quo ante, BEFORE THE WAR. Reactionaries are monarchists, not conservative.

>reactionary is staying where the center of the overton window is, and today the center isn't where it used to be
Absolutely wrong, and retarded. Please reconsider your views for 15 minutes before posting again.

>>134756579
>But isnt raqqa comparable in size to mosul?
No. Raqqa has a third of the population at best.

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>>134756511

>>134755504
>because they accept and seek change
fundamental reform of institutions=/=pushing the overton window
the keyword is institutions

>>134756475
what a sausage fest

>>134756316
Yeah it took Turkey 3 months (only if you count the last main battle and not the first operations that failed due which Turkey and allies had to take the entire surrounding area which makes it 6 months) while Mosul lasted about 9 months for the Iraqis army to take over and still there area fights going sporadic yes but the city still harbors ISIS member.

>>134755918

Well no, it is true, but from her perspective it would be abuse.

>>134756316
>turks
More like their retarded arab proxy. They've trusted the FSA too much, even gave them the role of infantry support of their armor.

>>134756758
thanks bud

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>>134756475
what the actual fuck? is that red stuff blood?

>>134756733
a tenth.

>>134755795
>HUGE IF TRUE meme started
quick rundown
>inb4 bogposting

>>134756483
*what the fuck are you talking about? look, the FSA is advancing everywhere and doesn't lose positions, every offensive is successful. You want to know where i follow news? read Al-jazeera, it's pretty based with military sources to them, it's absolutely reliable, read what they say. Stop lying, they never lied and they never promised Arak and Deyrezor would hold before today, they only talked about Tanaf and the defensive operation is ongoing right now, trust me the FSA is holding strong in Tanaf and they'll push back the SAA in few days, can't wait to see Tanaf under Free Syrian people control. Palmyra what?what are you taking about? what SAA offensive are you talking about? they never retook palmyra lmao go read Al-jazeera. As for Hama, Al-jazeera and the other pro Free Syrian medias never lied about what was happening lmao stop being such a liar. No, the government never took Manshiya, please stop lying, the medias told that their attacks were repelled so it must be true. N-no the current FSA offensive in Deraa is to retake the few buildings at the southern outskirts of that district, the government have been controlling them since the beginning. What video? p-please s-stop, it was shot in Tehran by Khommie filmmakers to make people think that SAA advanced there, now i'm going to blo- n-no i'm not a coward please s-stop harassing m-me and r-read Al-jazeera they have such good sources they never l-lie !! NO they never lied plea- what proof? IT'S FUCKING FAKE PLEASE N-NOW S-S-STOP ! G-Give me link to see their lying p-posts as you say.. n-no it's i-impossible, Countryside General p-pasted them it can't be f-false s-stop h-hurr.. h-hurr HURR DURR HURR DURR HURR DURR HURR DURR HUUUUUUUUURRR DUUURRRRRRRRRR*
>*cries and goes complaining back to his gf who prepared him and her son hot tendies before going back to his basement to jerk off to ISIS beheadings*

>>134756809
Going into semantics here, but
>Institutions are "stable, valued, recurring patterns of behavior"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution
The overton window falls under the concept of "institution", or rather the overton window consists fo the acceptable institutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution

>>134756926
It's the floor sempai

>>134756879
the perspective of someone in denial is always wrong

>>134756926
water on red surface

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>>134756926
it's water on a red floor.

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>>134756926
It's water on red tiles, anon.

>>134755559
lot of Lebanese in Brazil so it doesn't surprise me

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>>134756544
Which kind of flag, my dear?

>>134756012
but why not having an opinion ?

>>134757047
>>134757057

Both wrong, it's an IS slaughter pool

>East Hama CS || Russian airstrike destroyed ISIS missiles launcher in Direct Hit
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/889462793468030976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkaFXpzYKyY

>>134756149
your whole definition of reactionary is based on the assumption that the overton window is the same today as it was back in the days
it's not
times have changed and the norm today isn't the norm of yesterday
reactionary is always relative to the center of the overton window

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>>134756475
fucking GASsad
don't you see people ?
he's mass waterboarding his population and he forces them to wear only shorts to humiliate them
someone must stop him
REEEEEEEEE

>>134756935
>>134756952
Ok, here is the reworded version, the last part about tendies can go under the pic of the screeching Maghrebi, I already added the asterisks.
The HUGE IF TRUE meme started when Syrian Geneal posted one of his usual sources that turned out to be wrong at the time, but he would post them with the accompanying "HUGE IF TRUE" text in all caps. This sparked the meme that Maghrebois then hammered for days until the Tanaf offensive proved successful, then he quit HUGE posting unless something positive for him happened.

>VIDEO: Hezbollah secures massive advance on Syria-Lebanon border, battle against HTS jihadists almost over
BEIRUT, LEBANON (3:35 P.M.) – Hezbollah has secured a major advance against terrorists of the Ha’yat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) jihadist group in the Arsal, western Qalamoun border region between Syria and Lebanon.

The advance was achieved today with Hezbollah forces overrunning the jihadist group’s positions in the canyon areas of Wadi Ma’rouf, Wadi Kuhail, Wadi Za’rour, Wadi al-Daqayek and Wadi al-Dam.

Not long after this advance was confirmed, Hezbollah’s regional operations room released a statement saying the battle against HTS was almost over and that they called on the terrorist group’s fighters to surrender themselves and save their own lives.
The statement emphasized that Hezbollah would guarantee the safety of surrendered HTS fighters and would grant them evacuation to Idlib Governorate in northern Syria if the militants so chose.

As of the present time, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA), the Lebanese Army and Hezbollah are all engaged in a bilateral, multi-factional operation against HTS aimed at clearing the final terrorist-occupied stretch of border between Syria and Lebanon.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-hezbollah-secures-massive-advance-syria-lebanon-border-battle-hts-jihadists-almost/
video in link

>>134756731
>Status quo ante, BEFORE THE WA
status quo ante= the state before
status quo ante bellum=the state before the war
i can't help you if you're illiterate

>Absolutely wrong, and retarded. Please reconsider your views for 15 minutes before posting again.
not an argument

>>134757327
If this mong passes for white in UK, you are doomed.

>>134751057
Build a reprap

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Kurds are whit-

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>watanisy @watanisy
>surprises on the way

wat did he mean by this

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>>134757083
a hezzy flag, or amal.

>>134757094
Social norms should be decided by society and not by law. Huge time and attention wasting discussions about this int he context of what the law should be are used as distractions from real isssues. If people were forced to have gaysex or cameras were installed in bedrooms I'd oppose it activly otherwise it probably is fine as it is whatever the law is

>>134756730

The infighting been happening for months.

>>134757226
REACTIONARY MEANS RETURNING TO THE PERCEIVED GOLDEN AGE IN THE PAST

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH OVERTONS WINDOW

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH LEFT-RIGHT

NIGGER REACTIONARIES IN THE CENTER OF AFRICA WANT A RETURN TO CANNIBALISM AND TRIBAL RAIDS

STOP BEING RETARDED

>>134757523
The term status quo ante bellum (often shortened to status quo ante) is a Latin phrase meaning "the state existing before the war".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/status%20quo%20ante%20bellum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_ante_bellum

Fucking kill yourself.

>>134755295
No, but prostitutes are dead inside.

>>134755153
IMO if you make it a shirt you should paint over the red text with yellow. It would look much better.

>>134756952
will do but tommorow

>>134757706
reactionary simply means being against progressive politics.

>>134756579
Old city of Mosul is like 2/3 of Raqqa area

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Old grandma she ain't what she used to be, ain't what she used to be, ain't what she used to. [All together now] Old grandma... learn a new trick, kikes! Cyberbullying is for naughty schoolgurls, who need more hidings?

>>134757874
>https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/24-july-new-photos-from-syrian-reporter-alongside-tribal

This map is showing that SAA has already cut off the road.

>>134757587
Succnah fellow shitposter. Or Ma'adan?

>>134757801
TOMORROW
Another key phrase in HUGE posting

>>134757849
Reactionary means wanting to return to a past state.
Conservative means being against progress.

>>134758002
not succnah. not yet.

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>>134757967

>>134758066
>against progress
>progress

>>134758066
reactionary means being against progressive ("revolutionary") politics.

>>134756970
>Going into semantics here
well boy we're going in a world of hurt
>the overton window consists fo the acceptable institutions
from what i understand of their "reform of the institutions" is refining in a more pragmatic way the already existing acceptable institutions in a more pragmatic way and not trying to ditch them for something that is to the fringes of the overton window
otherwise they wouldn't be called centrist
what is your POV on the definition of "reforming" ?

>https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/889468102211231744
>unconfirmed , tribal fighters say they storm shinan village in raqqa

BIG IF CORRECT

>>134755230
it used to be like that in Australia, had to take down photos of the sayyed whenever the landlord or something came lol

>>134758114
Thats conservative. Conservative = to conserve = oppose change.
Reactionary is reverse-progress. Its for restoring a past state.
Conservatives fight progressives and reactionaries all the same.

>>134758074
Some reports yesterday said they've broken the major defense line, if it's true and SAA controls the hills, the town is in fire control and IS has to run away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk

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>>134757557
>imblying

>>134757653
okay thanks for the insight

>>134754589
is she a prostitute

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>>134757615
Go with the Amal one.

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I tried asking on /k/ but I only got meme answers.
Is shock and awe a viable strategy or is it just a big meme?

>>134758535
depends on context, I'd say yes

>>134758270
You're kinda right, but not quite. Conservative is about conserving the status quo, regardless of if it is leftist or right, progressive or traditionalist etc. Our conservatives are actually the progressives, the ones who want to uphold the egalitarian, liberal ideology of '68.
/pol/acks who are almost all in one way or another opposed to it are the subversives.

>>134758535
Everything's a meme compared to dropping barrels on children.

>>134757706
autistic screeching is not an argument
so far your whole """""argumentations""""" is based on the fake assuption that the overton window (which define the center) is the same today as it used to be

>>134757775
this doesn't refers to WW2 or any war at all
the expression is derived from war vocabulary and transposed to the political vocabulary to refer to the state before the happeniing (in the political context it's before the overton shift, in the military context it's before the war)
>Fucking kill yourself.
still not an argument
if you constantly need to use insults to prove your point you have ZERO arguments whatsoever
you're just clinging to your incorrect definitions

>>134754589
I'd pay 50$ for a whole night, do you thnk she'd agree?

>>134758648
Conservatives always are last generation's progressives, by definition.
When the progressives win, they become conservative, wanting to preserve their gains. Then a new progressive wave shows up, trying to move again.

>>134757786
Probably looks better, but I really like the motto.

>>134758487
i meant as in sending it your way.

>>134758487
Megumium has no boobs, these clothings don't fit her.

>>134758715
>calls me illiterate
>point out he is the illiterate one and link a dictionary
>not an argument :D

Closing the tab, hopefully any neutral observer can see through your bullshit. You yourself are beyond salvation.

>>134758114
don't waste your time he's doesn't comprehend the definitions of these words

>>134758535
depends on the enemy you're facing, the terrain, the ressources of both parties etc

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>>134758129
>from what i understand of their "reform of the institutions" is refining in a more pragmatic way the already existing acceptable institutions in a more pragmatic way and not trying to ditch them for something that is to the fringes of the overton window
Yes, you are right in that radical centrists do not seek to push politics to either end, especially since many of them hold views from both sides of the spectrum. Only the amount of reformation depends on what actually works. If something is utterly and thoroughly broken, I believe it would still be "radical centrism" to build something entirely new. Maybe I just have a wrong impression on the definition.
>otherwise they wouldn't be called centrist
True, though the term "radical centrist" as a definition is quite loose. It seems to me that it contains most anyone who wants to make changes to society, but does not fit on a single side of the political spectrum.
>what is your POV on the definition of "reforming" ?
To change the form of something that already exists, without throwing it away and starting anew in the process. Though the reformation can be radical, where after reformation the thing is hardly recognizable.

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>>134759019
With T-62Ms

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>>134759047
That anti-radiation shielding will come in useful

>>134758752
Hello mukhabarat

Trying to decide if I should get a giant chinky hezbollah mousepad
https://www. aliexpress .com/item/OEM-Game-Mouse-Pad-900-400-3-high-quality-DIY-picture-with-edge-locking/32654990643.html

>>134758822
fleeing the debate i see
use this time to reread the definitions and learn some latin
also don't bleed on your seat, use some diapers

>>134759042
>it contains most anyone who wants to make changes to society, but does not fit on a single side of the political spectrum.
That's actually a quite nice description

>>134758535
Yes. It's just a slight extension on existing, commonly accepted Western doctrine. Strike where the enemy is weakest and destroy or force it to surrender indirectly, instead of simply closing in with the enemy and killing it.
>It can be induced, they write, by direct force applied to command and control centers, selective denial of information and dissemination of disinformation, overwhelming combat force, and rapidity of action.
It's basically modern Western warfare.

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>>134759126
Wouldn't mind riding a tank with my bros towards Deir Ezzor, with the wind in my hair and the sun at my face.

Gotta watch for those sneaky ATGMs tho

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>>134759162

>also don't bleed on your seat, use some diapers

>>134755230
https://archive.is/20130213132209/http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:165:0072:01:EN:HTML

EU list

>>134755660
>>134755559
Feels good living in a country that doesn't care

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>>134759262
You just gotta be smart and use cover, work together with other tanks. Tanks are vulnerable on the battlefield, just like everything else.

>>134759133
why the fuck not i guess.

>>134758752
Ohh, you mean a real flag? Thanks dear, but I have my own suppliers.

>>134757678
Yes but isn't it strange that the definite takeover happens just after the US announces to cut aid to the rebels

>>134758535
Yes, it is. Especially if the enemy has low morale and aren't motivated to hold their ground.

>>134758719
Kek I wouldn't pay more than 10$. Also, I wouldn't let my dick near a whore.

>>134758402
Yes

>>134759042
from my perspective (correct me if i'm wrong) a centrist is someone anti change whether it's left or right, also he doesn't want to change the pre existing institution at all.
a radical centrist doesn't want to change the institution right or left but wants to reform them (keyword is reforming= forming again not changin) so he takes what is left and what is right and changes them up and down (toning up, toning down the institution toward a more pragmatic and adapted to the situation way) so he is a centrist but not a centrist that sit on his ass and wants the institutions frozen
>To change the form of something that already exists, without throwing it away and starting anew in the process
i think we're agreeing on the same thing
>Though the reformation can be radical, where after reformation the thing is hardly recognizable
again agree, the change is real but not left or right just up and down if we're using a 2D analogy

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>>134759330
is that you phåm ?
if so pic related to answer your reply

>>134759165
is the radical centrism the ultimate political redpill ?
sounds like it

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YAS QUEEN SLAY THOSE

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Can the Jew learn how to love? Can they become human, like us, and care about other people, and not just try to murder everyone for more shekels all the time? Can the lying Ashkenazi ever redeem themselves, as a race, or will all the major religions of the world continue to despise them, hunt them, and drive them from every country? Is that their only conceivable destiny? Einstein? Shekelsein? Your thoughts?

>>134759965

that's a man, faggot!

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>>134757874

>>134757557
He looks like an english

>>134760109

Confirmed St. George bank is funding IS

>>134758487
Bashar has the same waifu as me, nice

>>134759712
>from my perspective (correct me if i'm wrong) a centrist is someone anti change whether it's left or right, also he doesn't want to change the pre existing institution at all.
Yes, I think that's about it.
>a radical centrist doesn't want to change the institution right or left but wants to reform them (keyword is reforming= forming again not changin) so he takes what is left and what is right and changes them up and down (toning up, toning down the institution toward a more pragmatic and adapted to the situation way) so he is a centrist but not a centrist that sit on his ass and wants the institutions frozen
Yes, I think we agree on this all. Actual change and attempts at it, but still being in the "center" of political axes.

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>>134759899
>is the radical centrism
No, radical centrism is radically retarded. The mid point between two extremes doesn't automatically become the truth, and is wholly dependant on where the aforementioned extremes are.

Radical extremism is the true redpill, find your own truth and run with it.

>>134759812
It's me, top kek m8

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>>134759899
>is the radical centrism the ultimate political redpill

>>134760257
but after a certain point you must become centrist once you achieve your goal point

>>134757581
You're in Poland, have you ever even met one?

>>134760257
>The mid point
That's not radical centrism. That's ordinary centrism.

>>134760331
see>>134760345
key word ultimate which implies after you pushed the overton window where you want it

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>>134760294
well then see pic related
and tell me your thoughts

>>134760345
If you're a self-described centrist you have no goal point, you're passive and beholden to the whims of the extremists who drag the narrative in their own direction.

You can compromise but that's not the same thing.

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>>134760257
Also, how about radical (extremist) centrism? No reason why you couldn't bash in ideologue nazi and pinko heads for the sake of society.

How until SAA reach DeZ?

>>134760256
first time i end up agreeing after a debate
i think we achieved truth m8

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>>134760395
That's not how it works kheys, the political compass won't move. Centrism is an ideology in itself

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>>134760508
I mean, it's my opinion so it's obviously correct and true.

>>134760443
makes me think you're a retarded Maghrebi who hates the country he moved to and should move back to Algeristan.

>>134760451
you missunderstood me
when hitler came into pwer and made nat soc the norm, he became a centrist by fighting against monarchist that wanted to push it further right and communist that wanted to push it further left
he was a centrist when natsoc was the norm

>>134760598
no only my opinion is correct
:^)

>>134760443
Saved. Good shit.

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>>134760495
Within 1 month calling it nao, longer to secure the city itself tho.

>>134760469
You're putting liberals in as the universally recognised middle ground, surrounded by crazies in all directions. On a global and historical scale however, liberals are dangerous ideologues themselves.

BAKING FRESH SOON

>>134760495
Little more than a month, if everything goes smoothly.

>>134753742
>Al Salam Alaykum town
What the fuck is this name. Imagine telling the guard at a Tiger forces checkpoint that you come from Salam Alaykum.

>>134760566
>the political compass won't move
so you imply that today's """"progressivism"""" isn't the norm ?

>>134760633
i'm already living in algeria
don't you see my flag ?

>>134760729
>You're putting liberals in as the universally recognised middle ground
But (American style) liberals are authoritarian leftists, are they not? I don't think I'm putting them anywhere except the trash.

>>134760204
Wouldn't put it past the fuckers

>>134760469
Or why not follow facts and evidence where logic takes you and not let some arbitrary scale of ideology determine your stance? People who choose centrism are usually doing so only to remain uncontroversial or because they have an inability to take strong stances for their convictions.

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>>134760778
i imply (((progressivism))) and (((neo-liberalism))) is not centrism

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>>134760649
this what ur trying to say?

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i would say the entire world is normal and its the liberals that are crazy that they live in a world in the clouds, and its not their fault, they are being blinded by the realist kikes.

>>134760916
guess

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>>134760811
You're alright Mustafa

>>134760888
>Or why not follow facts and evidence where logic takes you and not let some arbitrary scale of ideology determine your stance
M8, that's literally radical centrism. It just so happens that it's not on either the left or right of the political axis, since it's concerned on pragmatism and what actually works and ended up having views traditionally found on both sides.
>People who choose centrism are usually doing so only to remain uncontroversial or because they have an inability to take strong stances for their convictions.
That's why it's called (radical) centrism and not just centrism.

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>>134760109
I love this map art - have some other nice one

>>134760897
what is today considered as the norm is progressive from last century
and they can push for even more """""progressivism""""
incest will become the new gay, then it'll be the norm

>>134761019
>he doesn't know my nickname

>>134761049
FRESH BREAD
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>>134761049
COME AND PARTAKE

>>134760842
>not putting them in the gas chamber
get on my lvl faggot

>>134761150
my mistake Khalil, won't happen again

>>134761247
The bureucrats stopped me from buying Sarin and I didn't have the chemistry knowledge to follow the instructions to make it.

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>>134760842
Depends on what you mean by authoritarian leftists then.

Are Stalinists are authoritarian leftists is american liberals are too? If not, what was the soviet union? A right wing dictatorship maybe, but that can't be right, but then again we can look at post-soviet countries and see that despite communism their traditional nature remained intact, frozen while capitalism dismantled it's counterpart in the west...

It's all relative, but I repeat the 'radical centrism' is meaningless.

>>134761343
it's doc just in case you're new or if you missed it

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>>134761353
>Sarin