Yuri Bezmenov and the ideological subversion of the West

>>134649647
Always bump Yuri threads

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>Why did they do this?
To destabilize nations and change the complete perception of reality in a nation so it would be open to Communism/Leftism, and abandon its old way of life in the name of "Progress"

>Why should you know this?
You are probably brainwashed because if you haven't noticed by now, most of your schools, Hollywood, the mass media, culture, most social media platforms are mainly controlled by leftists (anyone that values "equality", "diversity", "anti-racism" (unless it's against whites) above all else or spews nonsense about "privilege" or "cis white men"). America almost elected a closet communist Bernie Sanders, and as you can tell most of Western Europe might as well be communist (look up the founders of the EU and the Pan-Europa movement). If you can't see by now, Western culture is not what it was 50 years ago, not because of some magic beautiful "progress" that spawned out of thin air and the hearts of good men, but because of propaganda and subversion.

One of the big Marxist think tanks that was used for subversion was the Frankfurt School. Some of the connections with the Soviets were documented:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-05/how-cultural-marxists-frankfurt-school-subverted-american-education

At the end of the day, the Soviets lost the Cold War with economic Marxism, but they won the Cold War by infiltration of churches, schools, media, etc. with cultural Marxism, which became the dominant culture with the boomers, hippies, etc. and became progressively worse since then (see: modern SJWs and school lectures about how we must destroy "whiteness" which would've been unthinkable just 30-40 years ago).

>>134649647
Bare bottom spanking with plenty of oil

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All this subversion was documented by FBI officials like Edgar Hoover and Cleon Skousen in his book "The Naked Communist", and scholars like Kevin MacDonald in his book "The Culture of Critique".

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm
http://angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf
https://www.usnews.com/news/national/articles/2008/05/16/how-communists-operate-an-interview-with-j-edgar

If you have any interesting info or comments on the KGB, the Frankfurt School, Yuri Bezmenov or subversion (Marxist or any other kind), post it here.

Based Yuri

So what country can you move to, to get away from this crap?

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>>134649647
Bumping Yuri

>>134649647
bumping Yuri should be required viewing for newfags

>>134650264
Iran, Syria or North Korea

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>>134650264

As far as "white nations" with decent standards of living go, Eastern Europe wasn't infected as much because they were part of the Eastern Bloc when the Soviet Union was still around.

The West had cultural Marxism injected through education, media, etc. which was mainly driven by the Frankfurt School, while the Eastern Bloc had economic Marxism, which ended a while ago. So it's one of the reasons why Eastern Europe is still a lot more conservative and nationalist than the West. That's why people praise Russia, Poland, Hungary so much on /pol/ since they're not communist anymore and they weren't affected by cultural subversion as much.

But what anyone should recommend is staying here and fighting it. Abandoning America or Western Europe isn't doing anyone any good. You should just be aware of what's happening, fight it, and educate other people about it (like Jordan Peterson).

>>134650488

It already is.

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Have some redpills children (Cultural Marxism heavily focused on subversion, along with Media)

Jews: imgur.com/a/ER090
Economics: imgur.com/a/3IEtU
Women: imgur.com/a/UWtj2
Racial Realism: imgur.com/a/ByCnG
Ethno-nationalism: imgur.com/a/u3ykb
Cultural Marxism/Liberalism: imgur.com/a/cS5CR
Media: imgur.com/a/adKzw
Guns: imgur.com/a/EcFxy
Climate change: imgur.com/a/HbKvL
Homosexuals: imgur.com/a/FkHqh
Transsexuals (be warned, painful to look at): imgur.com/a/yj0Nu

>>134650584
>North Korea
>communist country
>not controlled by Jew
I thought pol was smarter than this

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>>134651229

It's not.

The weird contradiction about communism is that even though it was originally a scam by Jews like (((Marx))), and the USSR originally supported the Zionist project and helped develop Israel, it led to weird stuff like previously communist nations like Russia and Poland being less cucked than the West, and countries like Cuba and North Korea being very anti-Israel, anti-Zionist and not having a global (((central bank))) controlling their economy, government and media. That's why there's so much propaganda against NK.

But it obviously wasn't like that for most communist (and former communist) nations.

>>134651229
Nazis aren't known for their sense of humour are they.

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>>134649647

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>>134649647
Why is is so hard of find a copies of his books?

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>>134653733

Same reason why it's impossible to find an official translation of Alexandr Solzhenitsyn's book "200 Years Together", or books by Kevin MacDonald in most libraries.

They don't want you to know.

Sometimes it even gets removed from Amazon if it's too sensitive too.

>>134649805
Read what defectors Anatoli Golitsyn and Jan Sejna wrote in their books. The East hasnt lost the Cold War at all. That is a myth that is perpetuated in the history books.

>>134649647
>>134651159
Bump for very high quality presentation. Not saying agree or disagree, just really appreciate thorough, thoughtful presentation sticking to the issues with lots of data to consider. Bump

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>>134655206
Then find someone who has it, scan it to pdf and pirate/spam it around it into oblivion.
If you play by the rules and limitations put up by the kikes, you lose

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>>134655344

Can I have a summary?

>>134655841

He asked why they're harder to find than other books. Of course you can find them and buy them if you take the effort.

Schuman, Tomas (1984). Love Letter to America
https://archive.org/stream/BezmenovLoveLetterToAmerica/YuriBezmenov-LoveLetterToAmerica_djvu.txt
http://bookzz.org/dl/2598535/f321a4
https://ia800301.us.archive.org/25/items/BezmenovLoveLetterToAmerica/YuriBezmenov-LoveLetterToAmerica.pdf

(1985). No "Novosti" is Good News.
https://archive.org/details/BezmenovNoNovostiIsGoodNews
http://bookzz.org/dl/2744157/9d3f39
https://ia700800.us.archive.org/5/items/BezmenovNoNovostiIsGoodNews/NoNovostiIsGoodNews.pdf

(1985). Black is Beautiful, Communism is Not.
https://archive.org/stream/YuriBezmenovBlackIsBeautifulCommunismIsNot/YuriBezmenovBlackIsBeautiful_djvu.txt
http://bookzz.org/dl/2744159/643a33
https://ia800303.us.archive.org/8/items/YuriBezmenovBlackIsBeautifulCommunismIsNot/YuriBezmenovBlackIsBeautiful.pdf

(1986). World Thought Police.
https://archive.org/stream/BezmenovWorldThoughtPolice1986/World_Thought_Police-Tomas_Schuman-1986-68pgs-SOV-POL.sml_djvu.txt
http://bookzz.org/dl/2744160/c5328d
https://ia600307.us.archive.org/5/items/BezmenovWorldThoughtPolice1986/World_Thought_Police-Tomas_Schuman-1986-68pgs-SOV-POL.sml.pdf

>>134649647
badaboom, badabump

bump for subversion. know your enemy's tactics and spotting his face becomes trivial

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>>134649647

I'm a simple man , I see a yuri thread I bump

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important bump
pic unrelated

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>>134649647
He was a professor at 2 universities in Canada, imagine being able to take an entire term with him?

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McCarthy was right in about 95% of his accusations of communist infiltration of the US government. Those commies used their position to get more commies embedded, soon enough the entire structure was rotten to its core, and the same thing went with educational institutions, media, etc.

The Marxists were infiltrating the school system back then too, now their infiltration is complete and their insanity is now normalized.

https://www.academia.org/self-identifying-marxist-professors-outnumber-conservatives-as-college-professors/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/6/liberal-professors-outnumber-conservatives-12-1/
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/10/24/survey-finds-professors-already-liberal-have-moved-further-left

>>134658887
Came out in the venona papers in the 90s that large numbers of people were on the communist payroll, so yea, he was right, beyond dispute. There was large scale communist subversion among the government and influential institutions (and there remains large scale communist subversion by individual marxists and kikes etc today)

>>134650949
>Eastern Europe wasn't infected as much because they were part of the Eastern Bloc when the Soviet Union was still around.

This is an amazing point. The peoples trapped behind the iron curtain were crushed and subjugated militarily, so there was never any need for long-form subversion first. Whatever marxist ideology was foisted upon them after that, was seen as brazen political propaganda.

This is the first plausible explanation I've seen for why people in places like Poland are fully behind having their own ethnostate. Their spirit was basically preserved in a time capsule for half a century. Real America would have reacted the same way 60 years ago, which is why the poisonous lies took so long to work their evil.

>>134650584
This

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>>134649647
The truth is Russia is still using the same strategies described by Bezmenov, only the nowadays the "useful idiots" have changed.

Now Russia uses the so called Alt-Right and (dis)information weapon online to subvert and weaken Western democracies even further.

http://www.interpretermag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/The_Menace_of_Unreality_Final.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

>>134649647
Nice propaganda. US after WW2 was way more jewed then ussr

>>134649647
Bezmenov was never as importaant or had access to nearly as many important information as he claimed. He was literally just a guard for a consulate in Sri Lanka or something. He just defected and tried to make money any way he could. One of the main ways was to profit from American paranoia at the time. Cant blame him though.
So I advise you to take what he says with a grain of salt.

>>134651229
There is not a single Jew in North Korea.

There is a reason they are considered the most dangerous enemy of the West. The goal of international Jewry is to unite the world under one sovereign. Their strategy is to eliminate economic barriers and allow their banks and corporations to control every nation's economy. From there it's a simple thing to eliminate political barriers. Just look at the EU. Now that they are United under one currency there is more and more necessity for political integration. Basically every pro EU politician is in favor of replacing the national level governments with a stronger EU parliament. When you push (((free trade))) you reduce nations' capacity for Sed determination. This is the goal

>>134657175
Honestly, this is too big of a topic to just summarize it in a couple of sentences. Just google Perestroika Deception and you'll be good. Basically both of them defected to the West around the 60's or 70's and predicted that the Soviet Union would fake its own collapse. They would initiate all these opposition movements to make it look real but in reality those opposition movements were controlled by the secret services. This was done to lull the West into peace and complacency so the west would disarm since they don't have a big enemy anymore. This would encourage trade and so on that the eastern bloc then could use to prop up its military.

I cannot summarize this in a couple of sentences, but basically the eastern bloc may not be communist anymore, but the power structures that have big control over the economy etc are still the same and they are jus t waiting for the day X to finally strike.

>>134649647
Bezmenov was always a meme to deflect responsibility away from the jews.

>>134660039
So it's just random luck that everything he says sounds like a screenplay for the last 40 years?

>>134660583
He was told what to say by the people responsible

>>134651832
Idk why /pol/ fails to grasp that there are non-Jews who are also ambitious, unscrupulous, and power hungry that can also use these ideologies for their own purposes.

>>134661222
its a mix bag, everything discussed here in this context up until merkel`s rapefugees is a mix bag

an unholy alliance of marxists, savage capitalists and zionists extremists

jews that matter just happen to fall into 2/3 of the above lol

>>134660091
One of the main goals of the EU is battling "climate change". North Korea is an extremely "climate-friendly" country if you look at their use of cars and electricity. :-)))))

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>>134649647
Bump

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>>134658887
he vas only rekognise too laet

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>>134649786
This

>>134660039
>nothing to see here, move along.

I'm guessing you believe Solzhenitsyn was full of shit too.

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>>134659645
>>134660382
>>134660583
>>134660926

>So it's just random luck that everything he says sounds like a screenplay for the last 40 years?

Of course NYET, his material is very important cause we are seeing these efforts bear fruit now. The amoral left has whored itself completely making small social identity groups (((oppressed))) by the White Man who they hope to keep as lifelong voters even if their policies are destroying the nation

>>134649647
Holy shit lmao

This traitorous delusional rat is buried 15 minutes from where I live. I'm going to go piss on his grave. Have fun, losers

>>134649647
>this summer
someone forgot about goobergate and the Trump election

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>>134662808
Was that too much for you leftard, can't bear his videos ? you are the (((useful))) idiot here.

>>134662808
Just know that when the "proletarian revolution" happens, you'll be shot or be put into a gulag.

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>>134659026

Turns out even Oppenheimer was compromised.

>>134659288

It basically acted as a vaccine for them. They didn't need to weaken the nations from within first because they were already under the Soviet control.

>>134659631

They use their special services and agencies, just like other countries but for different purposes now.

>>134659645

But America wasn't communist. There was a lot of Jewish influence, but they wanted full control, Soviet-like.

>>134660039

Everything he says is confirmed by a lot of reports, and claims by the FBI, other defectors, and what everyone suspected at the time. The fact that it comes from someone who was in the Soviet government and worked for the KGB outlining exactly how it worked is just more proof for what most people suspected at the time, and why communism had such a bad name.

>>134660382

That's also what Bezmenov claims in his lecture where he claims the last stage is when you're not considered an enemy anymore. But it didn't work the way they wanted after the USSR fell, instead Putin beat them at their own game, and now the Gulag Archipelago by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn is now required reading in Russian high schools. That's why there's so much anti-Russia propaganda and paranoia everywhere being spread, because they're not part of that structure anymore like they wanted them to be.

>>134661222

The point is that the Communist Manifesto was originally a Jewish scam for Jews to overthrow gentile governments, then get full control with no private property and tie it to a central bank (Marx came from the same bloodline as the Rothschild family).

>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

>Winston Churchill exposes Jewish forces behind Communism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcERXGcpEY

However, when non-Jews fell for the communist meme without Jews being around to control the revolution and government, it didn't always work the way they wanted.

>>134649647
Bump for yuri

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>>134649647
Serious question. If KGB was behind it then, who is behind the ideological subversion today? Or are we just infected with a self-propagating virus now? How was this able to spread across all western nations unabated?

>>134660556
Yes, just ignore the Marxist meme. Only Jews have ever perpetrated it.

>>134663311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh8eb_ACLl8

No one has the control anymore anon, we are all trapped in this ride.

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>>134663311
The ideological subversion is on autopilot. The mass of subversion in America comes in the form of Alinskyism. Hillary and Obama were ardent admirers of Alinsky. Hillary wrote a thesis on Alinsky, Obama tought about it.
The professors from that time are still indoctrinating young generations.

>>134663429
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/prefaceppb.pdf

The prelude to the culture of critique, wherein mcdonald documents the near hegemony of jews over the american media, makes my conclusion unequivocal.

The only reason the world's current state of affairs exists, is due to jewish hegemony over the media, and by extension, political discourse.

>>134663772
Every amerilard should read pic related.
Only a commie wouldn't.

>>134663311
(((certain interests))) are using it to profit

>>134663195
No, what you're saying is simply wishful thinking. Putin is very much a part of "their" structure, an integral part. The "anti-russian" propaganda comes from the fact that idiots both on the right and left believe now that Putin is a "conservative monarchist" or some sort of crap. That's why the leftist liberals attack him, because they see him as the new Hitler. What is really happening is both China and Russia increasing the pressure on the western nations. That's why blowjobs like Henry Kissinger are saying that the West needs something like a "grand strategy" (read slow transformation into a socialist world government) or else powers like China and Russia will fill the vacuum. (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/27/henry-kissinger-says-brexit-will-bring-britain-closer-to-the-us). It is an indirect threat and it goes like this: hey people of the West, either you become socialist on your own (through enforcing the climate change agenda) or other world powers will have to force you, either with their nuclear weapons (Russia) and also economically (China). I mean, look up which parliament was the last to sign the Kyoto Protocol into force and under whom it was. Just google it.

And that Solzhenitsyn is required to read in russian schools just proves that the collapse of the eastern bloc was initiated to destroy the Stalinist system that was simply not workable any longer. It hindered the communist revolution, that's why much of the communist's logic is that Stalinism distorted the beautiful communist idea. (Herbert Marcuse) I could recommend you a great book here on this topic but it is in german.

>>134664219
Archive or screenshot please
https://archive.is/sUL4S

>>134664105
You have non-jewish professors teaching out cultural marxism everyday.
Sweden barely has any Jews, yet our whole academia and government are Marxist.
Yes, big media is owned by (((Bonnier))), but they aren't the single problem.

>>134663104
Not possible, considering I have more value to a potential command or use-production economy than you and a hundred proletarians ever could, classcuck.

>>134663016
I didn't even watch anything nor would I waste my time, cuck

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>>134663311
>If KGB was behind it then, who is behind the ideological subversion today?

Jews in academia, media, and other positions of power like the EU.

But it's also self-propagating because of whites, and nonwhites who fell for the Marxist memes, got into positions of power and taught the next generation. It's like Yuri said: "You cannot change their minds even if you expose them to authentic information".

>>134663311
Watch yuri bezmenov

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>>134663311
It is still the same secret services that have been doing it for decades now. It's just now that the Soviet Union has collapsed people like Merkel and Obama can climb the career ladder in politics because communism supposedly isn't an enemy any longer. So of course Obama is a "democrat" now and Merkel a "conservative". If you speak about their communist past, you're a right wing conspiracy theorist nazi anti semite something. I think what would clear up the confusion is that the communist conspiracy has always been a huge network. It was not just the eastern bloc. If you look at the Frankfurt School for example, it was funded by Moscow and simultaneously by Rockefeller money (Herbert Marcuse and Adorno) for example. This is an international network that goes very far up, even to international finance.

The quote is by eastern bloc defector Jan Sejna, who predicted the sudden collapse of the Soviet Union but as a strategy to fool the west.

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>>134664416
Too afraid to open your mind to the truth about your cancerous ideology, eh? Socialism has never worked.

You are aware every intelligence agency, especially communist secret police, was and is highly compartmentalized and Yuri Bezmenov who was a fucking no one in KGB wouldn't be privy to that information?
This guy was just saying shit people wanted to hear. It's not that his point is bad, but his claims are based on his own imagination.
You're not offering information, you're just spouting bullshit. For real info on KGB shenanigans start with The Sword and The Shield, it relies on information provided by an actual high-level defector, a guy who was the chief archivist of KGB's First Main Directorate and had unparalelled access to information.
What's with you fucking idiots and your idiotic idea that you can learn stuff from 20 minute videos.

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>>134664219
Russia is not threatening anyone with nukes ,dont forget NATO is encircling them. with bases and missile shields which threatens the Russian deterrant.

>>134664416
"Classcuck" hahahaha!

>>134664416
>I didn't even watch anything nor would I waste my time, cuck

Because you're a brainwashed moron like Yuri describes. Watch it.

>>134664739
He said the fundamentals to cultural Marxist subversion aimed at the west. He didn't need to be the KGB director to know this stuff.

>>134664969
He claimed that there was an operation, an organized attempt to infiltrate Western academia and other spheres and bring about Marxist revolution through subversion.
However nothing even close to that scale was mentioned (found) in Mitrokhin archives.
I'm not saying commies wouldn't do it, I'm just saying it's paranoid bullshit.

>>134664739
yeah it's only a coincidence that all of his predictions have come true

>>134664723
There's no ideology more cancerous than believing anglo and german lies about socialism which has created miracles in shitholes over and over again while trying its best to resist the globalist capitalist imperialism which cucks like you and your sweet homosexual-filled Finland complain about today.

>>134664772
Yeah you probably worship your boss and bankers and financial elites who you'd probably let fuck your wife (and they're probably anglos, yanks, and jews) anally while you kneel, jerk off, and ask for more crumbs from your capitalist daddies.

>>134664756
>https://archive.is/sUL4S

LOL, NATO encircling "Russia" or the Soviet Union for that matter is an age old soviet propaganda campaign that goes back to Lenin and even Stalin. This has never hindered the communists on taking over almost half of the globe. Russia has had an anti-missile system since the 90's now while NATO's still under construction. Obama for example scrapped the plans for the United States missile defense complex in Poland in 2009. Btw, when was the last time the United States tested one of their nuclear weapons and when was the last time they modernized them?

>>134665216
His predictions are something anyone educated could see.
However I'm saying it's not because of KGB, it's a general cultural trend that has far deeper and older roots.

>>134665270
No, the "financial elites" want a global Soviet system of some type. You should read some more books beyond the typical tankie literature.

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>>134662808
Ya think you're hot shit, dontcha?!

>>134664875
How old are you, summerfag? I bet you are some midwestern teenager who watches pewdiepie. Why the fuck would anyone take political advice from a kid with a confederate flag on an imageboard. Fuck you are stupid. The only redpill is unironically the red banner and if you don't embrace it - either you are a parasite or a cuck.

>>134665281
1. Russia is not communist anymore, and their ideology isn't globalist, in fact their idea is the return to great power system of 19th century.
2. Situation changed since Cold War. American hegemony is a real thing. Americans are trying to fuck up their (potential) competitors on regional level. This is nothing weird or secret. See Wolfowitz Doctrine.

>>134665145
Well our academia is drenched in cultural Marxism. So even without the evidence you could say there was a Marxist takeover of academia and beaurocrats in the west.
What forces pushed for that takeover you might ask.

>>134665145
even my shitty small country has a rather large department (too large imo) dedicated to subversion, a former intelligence officer told someone i know
guy was a socialist lol but that may be a coincidence

>>134665451
No they dont. They want a market economy but also a world government

>>134665523
>isn't globalist, in fact their idea is the return to great power system of 19th century.
strongly doubt that but would love to read upon it
anything you can advice?
is putin really orthodox or jew in disguise?

>>134665563
You are thinking too black and white. They promote "cultural marxism" but also financialism and consumerism.

>>134665579
Barroso(portoguese, former president of the EU commission) was Maoist when he was young.

>>134665523
Their main economy plan of oil and gas exports hasn't changed one bit, besides privatization

All in all it's a plutocracy where the top elite doesn't really give a fuck about the people living there, or preserving anything

>>134665451
I read a lot of books and if you want, I would be glad to talk about them since I wouldn't waste my time being serious on an imageboard. I bet you haven't read anything from what you regard as "tankie" literature. And I bet your historical knowledge is comparable to an average subhuman american. Don't you see from your own regularly doctored history that capitalism has failed the German masses more than anything, and now Americans milk you like a fucking cow. How can you be so stupid to believe their exact word-for-word lies about communism and then think that all iterations of communism will resemble the Soviet Union - especially in this day and age... You are embarrassing to your people. How do you think wars happen? You believe the lebensraum bullshit of the west? Or do you think that Hitler reached the limits of privatization and had to expand to keep his fragile shit economy intact. The only reason he lost against the Soviet Union was because of Stalin's incredibly superior economic planning. One which made Russia from a shithole cucked to a foreign monarch into a cultured union of dignity in his own lifetime

>>134665747
Ok I meant a cultural Marxism out of cultural aspects and neo liberalism out of economic aspect then.

>>134665563
You don't understand what Marxism is bro. Marxism =/= Soviet-style socialism.
>>134665579
Everyone does that. Point is that this alleged operation to subvert West on this scale never existed.
Soviets did dabble in subversion and all sorts of bullshit, but nothing on the scale Bezmenov talks of.

>>134665478
I hate Jews too but I'm not as tryhard edgy as you are my neckbearded inferior comrade

>>134665523
And where do you get this from? Because Paul craig Roberts says so? The Soviets have pretended to be "conservative monarchists" almost a 100 years ago. (Operation Trust) What we're seeing now in both China and Russia is a NEP policy 2.0 originally devised by Lenin. It's also interesting to find out who helped the Soviets devise this plan.

And yes, the Kremlin's policy is "globalist". Hence singing the Kyoto protocol into force. And hence wanting to reform the United Nations for a "multipolar world". This is called "multilateralism" on the western side and it is the same crap financial elites in the West want. The only "proof" people have that "China and Russia is fighting the NWO" is blowjobs in the alternative media claiming so. It is absolute garbage and I cringe every time I read such things.

>>134649647
all newfriends need to watch these, if you're going to pay attention to one thing on this board, please make it this.

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>>134665744
>is putin really orthodox or jew in disguise?
He has had and IIRC still has jews in top positions in the government and his inner circle, him though, I have no idea, could be, the jewish community in Russia do love him a lot and muslims shun him as a jew/israel puppet, groups like Hezbollah etc.

Search up for yourself.

>>134665967
I never talked about Soviet style, I was talking about Trotskyism/cultural Marxism.
The peaceful type of marxism that is pushed before it becomes authoritarian.

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>>134665886
>One which made Russia from a shithole cucked to a foreign monarch into a cultured union of dignity in his own lifetime

>>134649647
Bump!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVaAyZN3A-I

>>134665281
>LOL, NATO encircling "Russia" or the Soviet Union for that matter is an age old soviet propaganda campaign that goes back to Lenin and even Stalin

All these (((experts))) are pushing the US to clash with Russia, I don't want to die vaporised cause some old sick fucks have their crazy ideas about the World order and Isreal 's position in it.

If the US needs closer cooperation with someone it's with Russia, not more conflict.

>>134665270
>Third world
>Wonders
Look you pasty white bitch, I'm going to choke you on my zika filled shit while the resr of my latino buddies rapes your family.
Hope they like the AIDS, they'll live with it long after we bury yo weak ass body inside some fat momma's ass where nobody will notice the smell.

>>134664391
None of the ideologies you complain about exist without jews, particularly cultural marxism. Do you honestly think cultural marxism would exist without the jewish narrative about the holocaust and the current jew-lead american pressure to censure the right in europe?

>>134666262
What, you think the empire-like thinking only goes one way?

>>134666479
Doesn't matter because I can't go back in time and bomb the Frankfurt School.

>>134666262
Russia and the US aren't in conflict over Israel. Russia did arm the arab coallition way back, alongsife an effort by the US to help da Joos, but neither one really has any reason to quarrel over that anymore.
Way more pressing matters that are used as points of dispute and pushed by the media and interest groups.

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>>134665744
I can't help you in the way you want. This is contemporary (geo)politics and you should consider every source biased.
But between pro-Russia and anti-Russia bullshit, and with a base in actual facts, it's clear what Russian end-game is.
Putin and his associates aren't dumb, and modern Russia doesn't have the power or ideology to support globalist tendencies. Thus they support the breakdown of American hegemony and return to multi-polar world, a world where Russian power would grow.
>>134666044
>where do you get this from
My own deductive skills.
>Paul craig Roberts
Nope.
>The Soviets
The Soviets were a regime. This is a different regime. Even though they didn't ditch all Soviet symbols or even manners in some areas, they aren't Soviets.
>Hence singing the Kyoto protocol into force
What the fuck are you talking about.
World isn't as simple as you believe it is.

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>>134665480
you're a salty fucker arent you, anyone who believes in communism sincerely is a certified fucktard. Neck yourself for beeing a laughinf stock of your party masters.

>>134665886
Mate please, my mom is from the Soviet Union, I know more than enough about it, also about the lies about it. You don't need to tell me. My grandpa was a hardcore Stalinist. So please spare me this crap.

Of course Marxism in theory is not what the Soviet Union was in practice. But that is the whole point. The utopian ideal of a classless society is just that, its an utopian ideal that will never come about, let alone globally. Its just there to use idiots like you like cattle to overthrow the existing order just so later those leading the revolution inherit absolute power over virtually everything. Thats why there never will be a "socialist" but "state-capitalist" system. Because it is just about control and power. Its not about liberating the workers, thats only what the workers believe.

And "capitalism" has not failed Germany or anyone for that matter, its those who control the monetary system and hence can cause a financial crisis anytime they want. So then the marxists come in and blame "the system" instead of the perpetrators. You retards are literally the best controlled opposition any banker can have.


And no, I dont believe anyhting about Hitlers Lebensraum since in his eyes I would've been only 50% aryan and hence a bastard.

Would love to hear an official US government intelligence assessment on this guy. The way he's talking and riling up people over principles that have been essentially agreed on in the West since the French Revolution smells of an active agent (don't listen to what he says, look at what he does).

>>134655206
>200 Years Together
Wasn't this translated by pol? Or was it some other book? I think I saved the link, but I can't find it.

>>134666509
No it doesn't and Russians aren't doing it for the benefit of world or noble reasons, but fact is that American power has grown too much and the ideology and culture that comes along it are cancerous. That is my opinion, and that's why I think strong Russia is a good thing.

>>134649647
>believing a propaganda video made by a fringe far right group

>>134666044

The West vs. Russia/China is just Oceania vs. Eurasia out of "1984". Anyone who cheers for one side or the other is delusional

>>134666262
I am not disagreeing. But I'm sure you don't speak russian and probably are not aware that on the russian side they have been pushing for all out nuclear war for decades now. Matter of fact it's blowjobs like Obama who didn't care at all about propping up the military so later his partner Hillary can start a stupid confrontation with Russia over Syria. Just ask yourself how pushing for transgenders and homosexuals into the military but not caring about your nuclear arsenal goes together with starting a confrontation with a major nuclear power? Think about it!

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>>134666953
Being brainwashed for years in Jewish Marxist backed education institutions and watching Jewish media is an excellent measure of political intelligence.

>>134666953
>I find right-wing people icky, therefore Yuri Bezmenov did not exist

Why not just stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"?

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>>134649647
(((communist))) infiltration is an open secret.

American Betrayal is a book about the history of Communist infiltration and subversion. Just started it, it's very much expanding and corroborating with what Bezmenov is saying.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15793069-american-betrayal

And it's mandatory basic /pol/ education. Good thread OP.

>>134666945
but russia is wide and long
amidst the olygarchs, the muslims, the degenerate alcoholic blue eyes youth why is it benefitial for us all to have them rise up as opposed to america?

america is not growing in a vaccum, china is too, and america will change once israel is destroyed, and it will be destroyed. Even if it costs all the arab lives in iran and enlisted goyim

>>134666758
Yes, the climate change agenda is socialism by stealth. Kyoto protocol is about emission trading, which western countries have to transfer wealth and technology to 2nd and third world countries, just to be able to emit more CO2. Just because you dont know what this means doesnt mean its not true.

The world isnt simple right, thats why you need to trai nyour deductive thinking skills. And once youre done doing that you will understand that both China and Russia are an integral part of the New World Order.

This regime is not different. The difference is the facade. The strategy, the enemies and the allies are all the same. Even the propaganda is the same, again, just with a different facade. Putin was not a "christian" in one of his first interviews when he became president. When asked in Cuba whether he was still a communist he said "call me a pot, but heat me not." Not too long ago he said he really liked socialist ideas because they reminded him of christian ideas. LOL
He also said he was a proud communist party member and didnt join by force but by conviction and still keeps his member card.

It is jsut wishful thinking that Putin and the circle around him is no longer communist. But if it makes you feel better then sure, its not gonna change the situation in reality though.

>>134667054
Yeah, I think that is a 100% more sober assessment than most people have here.

>>134665145
Didn't the kgb hold symposiums for general agents to cross train in?

>>134666769
authority =/= masters
But those masters in the south who got btfo and all their property freed by the Union - now thats the fate of the masters of capital you worship today
>>134666804
My parents are from the Soviet Union as well, and one of them was a refugee from another country escaping genocide by roaches. (Not Armenian)

The Soviet Union was the only country in the world which let my mother study medicine and work in the earliest advanced pharmaceutical research facilities in the whole world.

Your grandpa was a good man who was much wiser than you. Hopefully you will turn out like him. The Soviet Union was IN FACT the closest possible thing at that time in that region to Marxism in theory. I am not saying Soviet Union was not Marxist. It was Marxist until Stalin died, but even Stalin has his share of mistakes like depending on the government more than the actual people him and his people were dignifying and nurturing.

Classless society is not a utopian ideal. Actually, it has existed. Thinking that capitalism can remain without destroying everything it touches, thinking the peak of capitalist growth can remain without the inevitable decline, crises, wars, and necessity of expansion is idealism. Look up the term idealism and what it means. Marxism is the exact opposite of idealism, It is materialism, and a dialectical one. That's how I know you haven;t taken a look at the basics, when I have already gone through all the right wing literature of any note and realize it's just fucking ideological bullshit that any idiot can just get inconsistently lost in compared to Marxism, and specifically Leninism as well.

Cont'd>>
Its funny you think that its simply specific people who destroy and derail capitalism, and not that capitalism itself is a system, a tool, of plunder which inevitably leads to the same patterns we saw in germany, in britain, in france, and are seeing in the USA today.

>>134666804
If you think Marxism is not about liberating the fucking workers, tell that to the people who lived in communist countries who, although mostly relatively not as well off as the centuries old capitalist centers, has 0% unemployment, had healthcare, social services, fitness, culture, patriotism, free education, and a bunch of other services that are being rolled back in the west due to being "unaffordable" today. (Actually you are just being robbed by neoliberals, and thats what capitalism is)

Trying to imagine a capitalism any better than now is naive. Trying to imagine a socialism that may work better if it were implemented on a world wide scale like capitalism, without the subversive effects of imperialism and expansion - well that is much more realistic to imagine if we are to imagine things.

Try searching for Tomas Schuman goy

here you go:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=3770E3BC281A59EBEFCBB7D0F49F190B

>>134667972

If you leave aside the Gulags, famines, slave labour, uprooting of entire nations, and tens of millions of deaths, Communism wasn't really all that bad.

>>134668137
Reply to >>134653733

>>134666945
You're completely oblivious to the fact that there cannot be no power vacuum, a world leader WILL step in and control, lead and influence, just few decades ago there were two, now there is one

And, by all means, if you really think Russia brings some kind of a utopia, then you're no better than the useless idiots mentioned by that KGB defector and others, because Russia has derived and kept large parts of Soviet doctrine both socially and economically, whilst adopting the worst aspects of liberalism, as it came like a storm after collapse, same as in many Ex-communist countries, every one of them struggled with uncontrolled and unfair privatization, corruption and other "traits"

>>134667972
>Communism is good bc it's the only system that would value your mother

PS,Marxism is outdated as fuck. Literally not one single thing Marx said made sense

>>134667942
>Classless society is not a utopian ideal. Actually, it has existed
yeah like early israel
all those expatriats from the soviet union forcing other jews to share their wives with other men

absolute fucking degenerate

>>134649647
Nice redpill.

>>134665480
I have to admit, shariablue has gotten pretty good at this

>>134668257
Not to mention the suppression of religion,free speech, expression, the mass theft of homes and property,no amateur hobbyists bc they could not have the means of product in, the ussr at it's height was only 60% gnp of the us....

>>134649647
are you fucking retarded? this isn't about newfags you mongrell. it's clear to see some people are purposely stifling any and all conversation with bullshit threads. this board is fucked.

>>134668776

Commieflag got real quiet all of a sudden

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>>134666112
>The "anti-russian" propaganda comes from the fact that idiots both on the right and left believe now that Putin is a "conservative monarchist"

No it comes from the media, the CIA, the Rothschilds, etc. all this constant anti-Russia propaganda everywhere, portraying him as an evil villain like they did with Saddam, Gaddafi, Hitler, Assad, lying about "election hacking", etc. The same media that constantly promotes globalism & attacks any nationalists

https://www.intellihub.com/putin-bans-rothschilds-from-russia/
http://nationalvanguard.org/2012/05/the-silent-coup-putin-vs-the-oligarchs/

>Soros urges giving Ukraine $50 billion of aid to foil Russia:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-soros-idUSKBN0KH0NQ20150108

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/23/russia-issues-international-arrest-warrant-for-putin-critic-khodorkovsky

Putin paid off Russia's debt to the Paris & London Club of creditors, he put subversive agents like Mikhail Khodorkovsky in prison, he protects countries like Iran and Syria...

When the USSR collapsed Jewish Harvard economists and Yelstin's Jewish advisors colluded to help Jewish oligarchs take over the whole country. That was the plan, to still have that same power structure while pretending it wasn't around anymore

Yeltsin handed the country over to Putin but he then removed them from power, that's why they hate him & constantly try to start wars with Russia and demonize them. Putin is trying to back out of (((their))) trading system & use gold backed standard for trade between BRICS members instead

>And that Solzhenitsyn is required to read in russian schools
Is proof that he's teaching kids how horrible communism was, how it originated and who was behind it. Solzhenitsyn was a real Russian patriot/nationalist who knew how inherently flawed and evil communism was, not just "Stalinism"

I'll trust people like Pat Buchanan over you.

>>134666916

It was.

https://my.mixtape.moe/adkmzj.pdf

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>>134666509
I'm sure not, but better have them afraid of each other likey they used to than trying to win like now.

>>134666702
Yes and after US and Russia nuke themselves out you will see Israhell conquer all the oil and
augment its territory 20 times then say it's sorry but it was 'in danger'.

>>134667942
You are a true slave, broken in the mind by bolshevik jews who told you everything is about money, we don't worship the economy you animal, we worship God and this is a force they told you does not exist so you never call its help.

>>134667163
I know that they are prepared for one but also I know that a nuclear war, large scale , is not an event you recover from. It's terminal.

No one is innocent here, read the 1955-1956 US defence doctrine, called to nuke 20 cities in Russia to subdue them and mysteriously totallt nuke Albania since in that world war its terrain was deemed inaccessible by ground forces.

>>134668257
Gulags were for faggots like you who betrayed their people and countrymen for a fucking deformed looking tsar, a failed art student austrian, and other degenerates trying to subvert the glorious union. They were work camps, no better or worse than US prison systems. Not concentration camps like your faggot daddy hitler

>>134668428
It was the only country which gave an elite, challenging post secondary education for free for those who could meet the standards. In that time, rare was it that women could study medicine let alone foreign refugee women without citizen status. The Soviet Union was far ahead of its time, as this was only something the West just started to implement to move towards high skilled economies instead of giving in to working class demands of the mid 20th century.

Marxism is not outdated because capitalism is still the dominant system. Of course marxism must be adapted to today's capitalism just as lenin adopted Marxism to his era's capitalism almost half a century after Marx. That's what we are supposed to be doing but unfortunately when America did its absolute best and exhausted itself in fighting communism, the few remnants of it in the privileged west are that of college libtards trying to be edgy by thinking they know communism. Or elitist eurocommunist pricks in West Europe. Instead of the rugged, disciplined working class communism of the countries which were victims of imperialism and war and mass poverty very different from today's still rather comforting conditions on their way to decline and disaster and another economic crisis. You yanks wont learn until you fall to your fucking knees and get stomped like hitler was stomped. And this is how you apply what Marx said, just as those capitalist pigs you worship applied machiavelli's 'outdated' ideas to convince you otherwise of reality

>>134669009
yadda yadda, stupid leaf, eat up that good goy propoganda all you want, doesn't change the facts that in the end they have major influence on both superpowers

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>>134649647
Who hear has read World Thought Police 1986?
It's required reading

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Why hasn't /pol slipped Yuri pills into the Liberal media's Russian stories on social media? It's a perfect opportunity to give out baby's first red pill to people who need it.

>>134667942
Funnily enough, the new Left says the opposite, that Stalin destroyed the image of communism, like for example Herbert Marcuse. The new left today I would say is 100% Trotzkyite.

You don't need to tell me all of this. Of course you're leaving out all the bad stuff that happened, as marxists always do. I know all of it happened because I know it from people whose relatives experienced it first hand. And they're not anti-communist or anti-soviet as you probably think.

Yeah, you're implying I don't know the methodology of dialectial materialism. that's not true, matter of fact I have read a lot of stuff not only by Marx, but also Lenin, Trotzky, Gramsci and Frankfurt School "philosophers" and so on and so forth.

The notion that history is guided by mystical forces, or class antagonism as Marx wrote, that will inevitably lead to a proletarian revolution on a worldwide scale that will implement a socialist workers state is peak idealism. Just because Marx said his socialism was "scientific" does not really make it true. Now you need to tell me why the socialist revolution hasn't been successful yet and also you need to tell me how for the next big crisis you commies are going to make sure that this time it will succeed!?

I don't believe in any of these crappy labels. "Imperialism" can come in any form. If you break it down it really just comes down to power. War is eternal, it has always been there and always will be there. It does not matter whether we live in a feudal or capitalist bourgeoise system. People can and will be exploited forever as long as the possibility is there and as long as there are people willing to exploit. It comes down to us people and what we decide to do. I firmly believe that there are people who are better and people who are worse, morally speaking. And those people who have the least kind of empathy are usually those who end up in positions of power because they're not constrained by moral boundaries.

>>134669158
>Gulags were for faggots like you who betrayed their people

How, by telling the truth about the shortcomings of the system or the leadership, or for having fought for the USSR in Western countries during WWII, for having religious beliefs, or for merely being the wrong nationality?

>Not concentration camps like your faggot daddy hitler

The sure sign of a brainwashed Commie is that he pretends everyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi. Hey, if the Soviets were so anti-Nazi then why did they enter into a pact with them from 1939-41 so that they could carve up eastern Europe between them? If Hitler was so bad for invading Poland from the west, why did Stalin invade it from the east at the same time?

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>>134669158
No, gulags were for people who left work without permission, expressed discontent with their give in PRIVATE letters, fed people whom the government was trying to starve, and mothers who instilled christain values in their children

>>134668998
yeah I see He needed>>134668998
to sit tf down.

>>134669158
Moron commie shill. You should hang.

>>134649647
ideological control is a tool of authoritarian governments alone

bump for the mindless hippies

>>134669045
Not necessarily, a nuclear war can also be a limited one.

Interestingly it eas Bill Clinton who changed Reagans nuclear doctrine. Now the US will "absorb" a nuclear strike and not just retaliate immediately. If you don't believe me, just look it up.

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>>134664875

There's no point in trying to argue with retards like him.

Weak pathetic morons like himself need to be hanged by his balls whilst they have a commie manifesto shoved up his ass

If it's the same spanish cocksucker i keep seeing over and over again then we need not to worry cuz our gypos will steal his internet cable

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The ultimate red pill

>>134670098
yeah, these commies are broken beyond repair
>>134669866
a nuclear war can be minimal, to the US's expense, just 10 hits will perma-tank the economy and saturate all emergency services for years to come. It is my assessment that Russia would do that at thee expense of losing Moscow however after the horrible destruction is evident ( 5 million dead ?) a a full response is assured.

>>134669009
You're just propagating myths that have been specifically designed for people so they believe that Putin is this big strongman that is wrestling with the evil powers of the world. In reality he was just a mid level bureaucrat selected as a successor to Yeltsin. As if there isnt a whole cadre of military and secret service people behind Putin. This is the funniest crap anyway. Yeltsin, who basically appointed all these oligarchs controlling the russian economy, fucked the russian economy in the ass during the 90s, together with Harvard and then he appoints this nobody called Putin who turns the whole system upside down by himself and brings prosperity to Russia. This is the most obvious propaganda campaign and funnily enough, eastern bloc defectors predicted that this would come. That there would be a phase that would destroy the hopes of capitalism and democracy of the people in eastern europe and that later a "nationalist strongman" would take over. The CIA didn't give a shit about defector testimony, even when they spoke about Soviet involvement in international terrorism. Because the CIA has been infiltrated by Soviet elements forever now, migth as well abolish the agency.

Yeah, but all the other oligarchs are still there, like Derepaska, who you can see straight chilling with a Rothschild on Google Images. The Rothschilds for example, and other representatives of international finance, are buying up gold just like the BRICS.(http://www.whatinvestment.co.uk/lord-rothschild-why-iand39ve-sold-hundreds-of-millions-of-pounds-worth-of-shares-and-bought-gold-2540166/)

Obviously, because one day they're gonna get rid of the petrodollar and install a new global currency similar to the special drawing rights, and it will probaby be backed by gold. And btw, it was Soros who wanted to include the Chinese Yuan into the basket of international reserve currencies.

>>134670764
Well, what can I say, I think it will depend on who is in the White House in case of a nuclear war. If you're interested, you can google the name Stanislav Lunev and what he said about russian or soviet nuclear war preparations.

>>134663772
>(((russian))) rule

>>134671276
Seems plausible....

>>134671276
>>134671534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=facg5prt6uM

>>134671737
mama ta pare plauzibila

>>134671534
I am aware, jut as the unnamed Anatoliy Golitsyn reference you made above.

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>>134668257

Aside from this imagine what you have to deal with after the commie regime falls.

In Romania's case you have at least 50+ years before we can actually talk about change in this country.

The first step is to make the people believe that things will get better once they are in power, the second part is to establish themselves as the only ruling party, The third is to purge every institution of individuals that can think for themselves and actually see the commie regime for what it is, a stupid ideology that was made purely for the benefit of a few weak and pathetic individuals.

>>134671782
Yep, I've read all of those books and also other defector literature. I recommend Ion Mihai Pacepa to you, since you're from Romania. There is a german author called Torsten Mann who does amazing research on this subject. In english I can recommend Jeff Nyquist, who is great in analyzing Russias and Chinas strategy but is a bit blind on the american side, or well kinda biased, but either way, if you havent already, I would recommend you to really get into this subject.

>>134672162
>comunismul e rau, ne scrie tinel din apartamentul comunist facut de ceausescu

>>134672284
most of pacepa's work is disinfo.
he's been exposed as a soviet shill.

>>134672162

I remember reading back in the 80s that Trudeau Sr. (our PM then) gave CANDU nuclear reactor plans to Ceausescu, and that the reactors were built with slave labour... true?

>>134649647
Well OP, you reminded me that not all Canadians need a helicopter ride

>>134651159
That's it. I've officially taken the redpill.

That's some enlightening, fucked up shit.

I'm scared, /pol.

>>134672414
>the reactors were built with slave labour... true?
it's bullshit. there was no slave labour. they used to get bums off the street and force them to work. if that's what you mean by slave labour.

>>134672368
Lol, explain that to me. How?

>>134672162
>black/white Apple symbol
nice touch

>>134672590
>and force them to work. if that's what you mean by slave labour.

Sounds like slave labour to me, yeah

>>134672600
he fled to america because he was about to be arrested. they found piles of money and expensive goods in his home after he defected.
he was an opportunistic shill who fled to the west and made up stuff along the way.
basically he invented propaganda for the americans.

>>134672698
they received a salary. they were just forced to work.

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>>134672298


Esti genul de individ care ti-ai fi vandut si pe maicata pentru o butelie + un apartament daca traiai in 1970.

Te multumesti ca ti-a facut tata ceasca un commie-block jegos care e menit sa te tina in depresie + fara motivatie, sa ai putere sa te misti pana la fabrica si inapoi si atat.

Liberatorule sovietic daca ai studia putin arhitectura comunista ai vedea de ce 99% din ele is gri, si de ce a facut tata ceasca atata blocuri comuniste prin ani 70-80(aducerea muncitorilor de la sate in oras iti zice ceva)?

Bravo ba ,pisate pe cadavrele tuturor oamenilor ce au fost executat in inchisorile comuniste de Ana pauker si baietii, pentru un apartament si o butelie.

>>134672799
It's not propaganda that the Soviet Union used active measures against the West. I don't doubt fo one second that he was opportunistic, but does this really mean that all of his information is made up?

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Gonna sit and read this thread but wanted to just say GREAT THREAD! I wish we had a Yuri general.

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>>134649647
Saffers are not allowed to protect themselves from nig onslaught


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>>134672918
de unde stiai ca aia e una dintre pozele mele preferate?
nu vrei sa traiesti intr-o lume postapocaliptica in care ne omoram intre noi pentru o punga de pufuleti?
hmm, ce labar esti.
revenind, tot in blocul facut de ceausescu stai.
au trecut 30 ani de la revolutie.
capitalism=niste turci au facut shaormarii. si cam atat. vrajeala.
si aia care au murit in puscarie au fost niste psihopati lingatori de cadavre parfumate.

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People cheer for degeneracy and praise themselves for how "progressive" they are.
They are celebrating the destruction of the free world and the oppression of generations of their children to come.

Choose not to be subverted, and prevent others before it's too late for them.

>>134673083
everybody uses propaganda on each other.
example: american propaganda regarding tibet.
they wouldn't care if it were not annexed by china. for geostrategic reasons.
>>134673083
>does this really mean that all of his information is made up?
no,but some of it is.

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>>134673083

He has no idea what the fuck he's talking about desu, he's the kind of individual that believes there's a conspiracy inside a conspiracy hiding behind another conspiracy.

He is talking about the commie regime didn't have slave labor obviously he didn't read about the Romanians deported from Moldova to Siberia.

Also, our Dunare Canal was built using 35.000 people who were mostly political/intellectuals/ people who opposed the collectivization also priests.

>>134673475
>sovieticii au dus niste moldoveni lenesi in excursie in siberia
>asta e ceva rau

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>>134673225

Stau la casa dar in fine revenim.

Au trecut 30 de ani de la revolutie si nu s-a intamplat nimic pentru ca elita a fost exterminata de comunisti ovul fecundat la betie.

Si au ramas indivizi care au fost obisnuiti ca partidul sa gandeasca pentru ei si dintr-o data cand a venit vremea ca ei sa faca ceva , pauza.

>si aia care au murit in puscarie au fost niste psihopati lingatori de cadavre parfumate.

Nici nu mai are sens sa discutam sincer, oricum nu ai decat 2 neuroni 1 care il folosesti ca sa dai la laba uitandu-te la scene din Holodomor si celalalt ca sa vii aici sa mananci cacat.

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>>134673225
>si aia care au murit in puscarie au fost niste psihopati lingatori de cadavre parfumate
Vai de tine ma daca asa spalat la creier esti. Deci toti care au murit in puscarie si la canalul dunare-marea neagra erau toti "lingatori de parfume".
Vai, nu exitau detinuti politici, oameni care vorbeau impotriva comunismului, fosti veterani din al doilea razboi mondial etc. Deci nu ajungeau in inchisori sau gulag toti cei care erau impotriva comunismului. O logica perfecta de stanga.

>>134650949
>Normalization
>Hyper Normalization

http://apuffofabsurdity.blogspot.ch/2016/11/hypernormalisation-or-age-of-absurdity.html?m=1
http://othersite.org/james-woolsey-former-head-of-cia-about-shaping-the-middle-east-2006/

>>134673405
Well, yes ok, good.
Regarding China, if the US really, really cared about geostrategic reasons they wouldn't have recognized Red China ever at all. Now it's interesting to find out who's behind this move.

>>134673475
Well, I am used to people denying that were was no slave labor in the eastern bloc. Man, it takes just a little bit of reading that the communist ideology is basically if you don't work then you deserve to starve!

>>134673813
>elita a fost exterminata de comunisti
cine era elita si cum a fost exterminata de comunisti? si care au fost comunistii astia exterminatori?
cum s-a intamplat? elita a venit in romania si i-a muscat iliescu?
sau era deja in romania? i-a muscat pana la urma iliescu?
constantinescu a fost comunist?
basescu a fost comunist?
iohannist a fost comunist?
vor muri vreodata comunistii? =))

>>134673855
>Vai, nu exitau detinuti politici, oameni care vorbeau impotriva comunismului, fosti veterani din al doilea razboi mondial etc
imi place sa cred ca erau agitatori pe modelul remus cernea. agitatorii trebuie bagati la beci, evident.

>>134674009
>if the US really, really cared about geostrategic reasons they wouldn't have recognized Red China ever at all
because they were fighting imperial japan

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>>134673618

Mars in morti mati inapoi pe reddit , deja ai scazul IQ-ul la tot threadul asta cu prostiile pe care le debitezi.

E evident dupa cum scrii si ce gramatica ai ca esti un boschetar venit de prin transnistria pe locuri de MD si bei spirt pe bani guvernului .

Citeste despre experimentul pitesti daca stii sa citesti ca ma indoiesc ca stii.

>>134674443
>Mars in morti mati inapoi pe reddit , deja ai scazul IQ-ul
nici marian valorosu nu face atatea greseli :))

>>134674443
>E evident dupa cum scrii si ce gramatica ai ca esti un boschetar
asta e mantra pe care o repeti cand te uiti in oglinda?

>>134674443
>Citeste despre experimentul pitesti
nu neg ca i-au perpelit bine pe prosti. eu sunt pentru exterminarea agitatorilor. prin orice mijloace necesare.

>>134674632
>eu sunt pentru exterminarea agitatorilor. prin orice mijloace necesare.
Atunci ar trebui sa fie toti agitatorii de stanga, voi facand cea mai mare zarva.

>>134674423
"In one of the most dramatic announcements of the Cold War, President Jimmy Carter states that as of January 1, 1979, the United States will formally recognize the communist People’s Republic of China (PRC) and sever relations with Taiwan."

This is what I mean, lol.

>>134674859
sunt separatist. nu ma identific cu gandirea de tipul stanga/dreapta. sunt doua tentacule ale aceleiasi caracatite.

>>134674906
>This is what I mean,
jimmy carter was a fag

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>>134674995

And the plot thickens , si eu care credeam ca exista asa romani prosti cand defapt era laszlo.


10/10 , m-ai prins de data asta.

>>134675072
but seriously though, they wanted to bait china into economic ties with the west.
cheap labour.

>>134675458
Yeah, cheap labor too. But if you look deeper, they want China to become the new leading economic world power. Maurice Strong has even admitted this, and hes an important person.

>>134675451
>romanasul n-are argument
>e-e-e UNGUR!!!
si apropo barna a fost prea smecher cand s-a pisat pe romanasi de multiple ori.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGDyEcAjfC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoKK17K1QjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBqJn9BuFLo
prea baiat, prea finut pentru urmasii tiganilor in europa.

>>134675458
or he was*

>>134675691
>they want China to become the new leading economic world power
they are literally preparing for a sea war with china.
because china has a weak navy compared with the usa.
and sea war has few casualties compared with ground war.
they want to economically strangle china now.

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>>134675712

Bine bine , cum zici tu , macar sa iti dau eu dreptate daca transilvania oricum nu v-o da nimeni.

>>134675860
It's important to know who exactly is preparing for a sea war with China. Were they doing this while Obama was in power?

>>134675712
Trist faptul ca jegosi ca tine stau in tara. Esti genul care se plange, nu face nimic, arata cu degetul pe altii si demoralizeaza la fiecare ocazie. Esti un cacat cu ochi si imi bag pula in familia matii de jegos. Daca nu iti convine tara ai doua optiuni - fa ca mine si ca multi altii si schimba ceva prin orice mijloc posibil (oricat de infim ar fi lucrul, o diferenta se creeaza) sau cara-te in mortii matii din tara ca toti lasii. Nu uita sa vorbesti de rau tara pe FB daca alegi a doua optiune, sa iti dai cu parerea si sa le zici tuturor ce cacat e locul asta. Nesimtitule! Ma dezgusta jegosii astia ca tine. In loc sa faci ceva pozitiv stai si ii iei apararea lu unguru ala autist care ne vrea raul. Mars.

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>>134669009
>https://my.mixtape.moe/adkmzj.pdf
Thanks bro!

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>>134649647
Wait, so its not the jews?

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>>134649647
Thank you, OP.

>>134649647
>Literal leaf poster suggesting others are dumb
>I've been here since April and knew of Bezmenov since January/February
Huh look goys I know so much LiStEn To Me

Fuck you dumb nigger. Reddit posting fucking nigger

>>134655841
Here you go, friend.

"Dubbed the most banned book in the world, this tome is so feared by Jews that they have refused to allow it's English translation."

- - Originally written in Russian, it has been translated into German and French by a group of Professors who have offered their translations for free. A full proper English translation hasn't become available until now.

'Two Hundred Years Together' was written by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the famous Russian dissident who won a Nobel Prize for Literature. Consisting of two volumes, the first being concerned with Russian-Jewish history between 1795-1916, and the second; Jews in the Soviet Union, this book exposes the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet purges where 60+ Million people died. So, it is clear enough why the Zionists were never going to allow an English translation of Solzhenitsyn's work.

FULL ENGLISH LINK: Can preview and read it without downloading it if you want (it auto populates the .pdf on screen.) Might have to click the orange button twice to d/l because it has a pop-up the first time you click it.

http://www94.zippyshare.com/v/ToVac7C1/file.html

This the original release from 8chn. The wordpress has been edited (probably by JIDF) and released. This is a full scan of the original as soon as we got our hands on it (before we released to public). Again, you can read it on the site w/o d/l if you don't trust a .pdf file.. Enjoy :)

>>134664391
But not too few for them to troublesome. One of these Jewessess says that Jews will be resented for their role in the transformation of Sweden and Europe. She's telling the truth there.

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>>134659631
>The truth is Russia is still using the same strategies described by Bezmenov, only the nowadays the "useful idiots" have changed.

No, the truth is that ISRAEL is using it, only this time to create a 85 IQ world population (breed out and race-mix the whites) that are smart enough to work, but too stupid to see the Meta of the Jewish control.

Shills like you need the 'russian boogeyman' to shift blame elsewhere. This is why muh-russia is spammed on the TV by 92% majority Jewish-owned media.

>>134665335
No they couldn't. Educated people wear blinkers on their minds.

>>134649647
>blames KGB for seeing the Indian idea of meditation as a tool to make people willingly isolate themselves in their own bubble.

yet we now know very well that the CIA was very happy to take advantage of the same; that the whole hippie movement was in fact fabricated to emasculate entire generations, and that the same corruption of the mind is still at work today.

mfw Bezmenov could not ignore this, but would never mention it, since he was working for the agency.

>>134676416
yeah, obama came up with the pivot to asia.

>>134676056
transilvania a fost data romanilor de stalin
>>134676860
>arata cu degetul pe altii si demoralizeaza la fiecare ocazie
ce e romanasule, te oftici?
uite aici sa mai razi si tu.

http://www.b1.ro/stiri/externe/sclavia-continua-in-sicilia-romancele-tinute-in-custi-video-191195.html

Bezmenov is a cuck.

Betrayed his homeland because, literally, by his own account, they wouldn't let him fuck brown indian chicks.

Bezmenov is a globalist himself, look it up.

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>>134679397
Raspunzi robotic, exact cum ma asteptam. Nu stiu ce e de ras in situatia aia, dar ma rog, n-ai ce sa ii ceri unui comunist...scuza-ma, separatist. Mi-e mila de astia ca tine intr-un fel. Cat de hain sa fii incat sa le doresti raul semenilor tai si sa te mai si amuzi pe treaba asta. Imi aduci aminte de o grupare activa de decade bune, banuiesc ca si ei sunt "separatisti".

>>134679023
The CIA absolutely didn't give a shit about what eastern bloc defectors had to say. James Jesus Angleton made this experience first hand.

>>134679211
"Additional focus was placed on the region with the Obama administration's 2012 "Pivot to East Asia" regional strategy,[4] whose key areas of actions are: "strengthening bilateral security alliances; deepening our working relationships with emerging powers, including with China; engaging with regional multilateral institutions; expanding trade and investment; forging a broad-based military presence; and advancing democracy and human rights."[5] A report by the Brookings Institution states that reactions to the pivot strategy were mixed, as "different Asian states responded to American rebalancing in different ways."[4]"

Literally cozying up to Red China, just as expected.

>>134679935
>Nu stiu ce e de ras in situatia aia
faptul ca romancele prefera sa stea in custi in timp ce sunt violate la rand de italieni in loc sa stea langa un romanas mamaligar.

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>>134660382
>eastern bloc may not be communist anymore, but the power structures that have big control over the economy etc are still the same
No shit. Our PM was the personal bodyguard of Zhivkov, the Chairman of the Bulgarian Communist Party.

>>134680429
Well, you don't need to tell me "no shit", tell that to the other /pol users who don't know this.

>>134680568
I don't know about the whole Perestroika KGB conspiracy, but I can certainly tell you that we're being governed and have been governed by the same communists for the past 30 years, more or less, of course.

For fuck's sake, the Bulgarian Socialist Party even call themselves "comrade".

t. Someone who has family members in the BSP, and even more who were in BCP as well

>>134680965
Wellll, then I would recommend you to read up on Anatoli Golistyn and Jan Sejna, then everything will make sense to you. What you just said is another confirmation to me that what they both wrote in their books was absolutely true.

>>134649647
Bump
We need more redpill threads.

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>>134679397
>transilvania a fost data romanilor de stalin

Vezi , pana si tatuca stalin a stiut ca nu meritati nimic.

>>134679935

Nu il mai baga in seama desu, lasa-l sa viseze la trianon.

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>>134681222
ce-au vrut sa spuna cu asta, romanasul meu?

http://adevarul.ro/locale/suceava/o-femeie-fost-violata-patru-indivizide-etnie-roma-fata-sotul-ei-cei-doi-fost-luati-ocazie-catreviolatori-1_58ca37c15ab6550cb860645d/index.html

http://adevarul.ro/locale/pitesti/ororile-satul-groazei-sclavi-lanturi-munciti-schingiuti-pusi-cersit-violati-timp-8-ani-1_578634ee5ab6550cb8d1eebc/index.html

http://adevarul.ro/locale/suceava/Sase-indivizi-violat-tanara-intr-omagazie-suceava-fratele-victimei-fost-talharitde-cei-sase-violatori-1_57e3fc2e5ab6550cb8e46c1f/index.html

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>>134680568
>>134680965

I think everybody knows that E.European countries will need a lot of time before the commie stench dissipates.

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>>134681157
>The fall of the Berlin Wall served as the catalyst for Merkel's political career. Although she did not participate in the crowd celebrations the night the wall came down, one month later Merkel became involved in the growing democracy movement, joining the new party Democratic Awakening.
Will do. And I would recommend cleaning your own house, too.
>>134681481
It's truly a disease of the nation.

>>134681717
Absolutely, Germany is infested with this pest. Our last two chancellors were both marxists in their youth.

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>>134678089

It is.

Jews created Marxism, the Frankfurt School, the Soviet Union, the KGB, the NKVD, etc.

>>134681481
Once all the western countries fall prey to these retards, who is going to help you get rid of them? Ok, what am I saying? the western people are even more brainwashed when it comes to this marxists crap.

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>>134682173

Yeah , that's the sad part that people believe their bullshit and I truly hope no other country has to endure what the estern block has endured from 1946-1989

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>>134682173
Do you think that having a somewhat "redpilled" populace is enough? The average Bulgarian is more radical than the average Alt-Right fag. Fucking hell, I was on my facebook the other day and this girl I know was going full 1488. She's just a nice, average, smart girl. Not some skinhead's whore.

The people here are broken. We're ALL well aware of what's happening in our nation. Nobody other than the political/(((media))) shills and nu-male europhiles is under the illusion that everything will be fine. Soon your people will be broken, too. The west has given up, but you still have wealth, nice jobs, nice lifestyles. What will happen after a financial meltdown? You have millions of shitskins waiting for gibs, what happens when there's no gibs to gib? At least Balkanniggers are always prepared for a genocide, what will you weaklings do when it all goes Eastern European-tier shitty?

Come visit sometime. Go outside the resorts and talk to people. At least you have utopian retards telling you how awesome things will be when all whites are dead.

We know better, but that doesn't make things fine.

>>134682764
in romania a fost national comunism.
ce au fraierii astia in vest e democratie liberala.
agita niste prosti care traiesc din supa la plic ca sa iasa in strada si sa se dea comunisti.

>>134681804
Does Germany regret not passing a law in 1989 banning any former East German from holding important political posts for forty years after the wall came down?

I'd suppose that there was an element of blackmail involved in Merkel's rise to power, that various German politicians did not their ties to Moscow to be exposed.

kerdasi amaq

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>>134649647
Is Yuri a spitting image of Milton Friedman?

>>134682764
I really hope so too, but I dont see any organized resistance. The new emerging right is doomed too, as long as they keep believing Putin is their savior.

Based Yuri, the prophet of old. Newfags needs to learn REEEEEEE!

>>134682929
Yeah, you have described everything pretty accurately. Our people don't even need to be broken, coz those who care are in the minority, well so far they are. When shit goes down who the hell knows how badly this could escalate. I think this is gonna turn from alt-right to 14/88 really quick if things dont change around here.

Its really frustrating and whenever I speak on it people are not willing to listen, no, they even start treating you like some sort of loony or even an enemy. I think this is what Bezhmenov meant by "demoralized".

>>134683231
I don't know if Germany regrets anything, but I certainly would never have any "former" marxist take any government position ever. But that's not possible around here, you have to be "tolerant".

>>134649786

>>134649647
Literal CIA shill

>>134655344

Only retrded americans believe they won the cold war. The major problem is that burgers tough the cold war was about missiles, ships and tanks. It was not, it was about politics, and the soviets fucking destroyed them. The soviet Union was dismantled and suddenly every major country on earth is having its executive and legislative taken over by communists, not to mention media autlets, press, etc. The americans lost the cold war so fucking badly they havent even realized it yet. I shocks me how they are so deluded to think they won when you have literal political correctness (invented by fucking Mao himself) taking over all western nations.

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>>134683875
>Its really frustrating and whenever I speak on it people are not willing to listen, no, they even start treating you like some sort of loony or even an enemy.
One word: denazification.

If a Swastika banner isn't hanging from the Bundestag in 10 years time, I will have completely lost hope for the Aryan giant.

What you beautiful autists don't realize is that you're the heart of Europe and we need you to do Nazi stuff again.

>>134649647
i watched yuri and think his stuff interessting
are there any more KGB defectors that spoke out
are there any good books?

>>134649647
man how sad that he is dead, i would have liked to know, what he thought of today's western societies and to which amount it turned out how he expected and why it got the way it is

>>134684266
You're much farther into leftist degradation than we are though. Do you think anyone around here suspects Merkel is a commie? For us to go protest outside against the government it would take a severe crisis for that to happen. Same for the americans, I think that there is still simply too much wealth for them to even think of changing something.

>>134684328

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=Anatoliy%20Golitsyn&colum

>>134663311

The ideology is self-sustaining. All you need is a bunch of paranoid narcisist schitzos jealous of people who work hard and you are set to start subverting.

>>134684820
thanks man

>>134683136
>>134683136
>>134683136
Get in here /lit/fags your prowess is needed

>>134684275
It's coming and it will get ugly.

>>134666479

The problem a lot of polacks like the one you replied to have is that they simply havent studyed the problem. They simple dont understand that marxism is basicaly judaism without the divine aspects.

>>134684576
That's one of the most fucked up situations. Due to wealth, there is this lethargy, this "comfy atmosphere" that keeps you from understanding the danger that is becoming more and more prevalent. It's just like the boiling frog shit, only the fire and the water is you house, your job, you good amounts of money you make from it and all these "quality of life" BS everyone fills their houses with. Tragic.

>>134649647
These videos make me sweat every time. No thanks

>>134665886

the whole point of marxism is to distract you long enough for the promoters of it to take power behind your back, like you and other millions of retards go around chasing a carrot ideology while they take over the carriage. Guess who is going to keep pushing the carriage then? It is you, you fucking retards, nd no, you never get the fucking carrot, because it is metaphoricaly beyond human reach.

Do you get it now or do i need to make a fucking meme?

>>134665145

Did you actualy listen to him? The soviet union didint need a batallion of spies to infiltrate the borders of the USA, he says that crystal clear. It is all about spreading literature and creating usefull idiots who cant even understand they are acting as agents of a foreign power.

At most there are only a few hundred agents infiltrating at any point, they only need a few journalists, diplomats and university personal to start spreading the "virus"

Bump for Yuri

>>134685086
Well what do you do? I try to explain it to people but they simply refuse to listen. No matter how much I try.

>>134665270

I want to fucking kill you, do you have any fucking idea what your precious ideology did to third world countries? Do you have any understanding of how much misery you pieces of shit have created in our homes?

go fucking gas yourself

>>134685790
Maybe you could make a hundred race and gender bait threads.

>>134649805

its not about left or right

this is about russia and how they doing the same propaganda offensive like they did during the cold war.

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>>134685687

>>134649805
very nice image, bump

>>134684576

In the last 2 years we started reversing the situation after ousting president dilma. We still will need to deal with the economic calamity they left for us for the next 10-15 years, but being a commie in brazil is prety much like being a heretic now. The cat is completely out of the box to the point you had welfre niggers atacking commie larpers on sight during the protests. Absolutely none takes leftists seriously in brazil anymore, majority of the population has had anough.

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>>134684266
>Only retrded americans believe they won the cold war

Pretty much this, the USSR won the cold-war and the effects can be seen today in the US atleast.

The US tried to bolster their army whilst the USSR did the smart thing which was the infiltration of the nation and making sure it's upcoming generation will be brainwashed into Marxist ideology, basically what yuri states.

>>134685952
But they didn't started the propaganda wars, the west did this even more brutally and effectively.

To the point that they actually destroyed the soviet union and now everyone believes that they destroyed themselves.

>>134684275

It is a problematic situation because the moment any regime shows a hint of trying to fight commie subvertion, there will be millions of commies in the USA demanding the government use its nukes against the ebil natzees.

>>134686332
I wish people here would start thinking like this. But I guess we need to go through the same until this happens.

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>>134678359
Thanks, anon

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The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

>>134679023

He doesn't bluntly state it, but it's inferred between the lines when he says things about the generation of demoralized student activists stripped of patriotic family values.

>>134685790
Whenever a discussion comes up or when I see blatant propaganda, I talk about it. The majority agree, they are just numb and do not care. I have one single communist person that I know, EU lover, pro antifa, pro migration etc etc but even that guy, at least to a degree, holds a conversation.
The most common question or remark I get is "Ok you know all of this and let's say it is the truth. What can you do? You only know information, you cannot do shit anyway." Take it from me, when you hear a person saying this, ignore him from that point on because that is the moment when he disconnects and you will never get anyway past that point.

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>>134686574

Germany has been vilified so much that its population will do anything to not be categorized as a nazi.


As you said, you will need some time before people will have the courage to speak or to have a different opinion.

>>134684980

I hope you're right.

>>134687179
No such thing as social backlash in an anonymos forum.

>>134687157
That is very mild to what I have experienced. German leftists are really the biggest cult I have ever seen. I think that people in eastern Europe are not as politically correct as here, no matter the political orientation. I've experienced this first hand in Russia and also other people from eastern europe.

>>134650949

Good analysis anon.

>>134687179
To me its really a question of when. Theres a big storm brewing, thats for sure.

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>>134687506

Political correction doesn't exist here thankfully, there are some tho who mostly are in Cluj but they tend to be mild compared to your German Antifa.

E.European people have been through a lot so they don't care anymore, as of now at least but I cannot say that things will remain the same in like 50-60 years because the old commies will be dead by then but the newer ones are emerging.

>>134687506
German leftists are truly astonishing, they paid our political parties to have their way into Chilean politics and they keep the money flow to this day for no other reason than they can.

>>134650949
>Eastern Europe wasn't infected as much because they were part of the Eastern Bloc when the Soviet Union was still around.
Yes, which means that you lot are in a lot more danger than us. We got ass-raped by communism, you're merely getting your clit rubbed and that gets you wet. You will fall in line easier and less painfully.

Tread lightly, goys.

>>134687985
What???? Can you specify please? what the fuck man lmao

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>>134687376

That's why I like this place, you're not censored in any way.

It's been almost 30 years since the commie regime fell and people nowadays are still kinda scared to talk about certain stuff like my grandmother still thinks that the secret police has microphones in her house lol.