If Hitler killed 1000 Jews per day

It is not logistically impossible.

>>132367216
Yes it is dipshit. You are a fucking retard.

Well cremating them all is logistically impossible. There would be mass graves everywhere if 6million did die. But there aren't. lol.

>>132366855
>what is german engineering
with our knowledge today we could do the double or event tripple amount

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Yeah, I've wondered about that as well.
Remember when people said that it's logistically impossible to deport illegals? If that's the case then how did Hitler fucking relocate 6 million people in the 30s and 40s?

>>132368184
It never happened.
Fact.

>>132367482
Not an argument

>>132366855
it was 20 million.
you fucking antisemitic asshole.

>>132366855
Illiterate niggers killed 1 million in 2 months with machetes. I don't think it would be hard for the herrenvolk to kill 6 million in 5 years

How did hitler flanked the french and won? By studying how to kill jews
How did hitler planned the blitzkrieg? because he was planning on killing jews
How did hitler brought inovations such as the V2 and the tiger tank? Cos jews
Why and how he managed to advance so much? Jews
Why did he advanced almost all his troops to russia? Jews

>>132368568
They didnt attemp to burn all the bodies dipshit. Killing them is the easy part.

>>132368962
>already moving the goalposts

So after all it was logistically impossible to kill 6 millions, or was it logistically impossible to burn 6 million? Why cant stormtards ever present a coherent argument? Why do they always revision their claims like sneaky weasels? Why do every jewish stereotype fits stormtards perfectly?

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>>132366855
What about the deaths from disease, famine and fatigue due to the living conditions of ghettos and camps. And the number of 1000 a day is nothing when you consider the size of Germany, Poland and Austria where all that shit happened. Or you know the jews are deceiving you for sheckels whatever

>>132369224
They didnt kill 6 million in Rwanda you fucking retard. That's a false comparison

>>132368090
It's not like we miles you. You have all the freedom to be kangs and go to space but you don't because your engineering is overrated and your cars break down and are poorly made.

>>132370041
*nuked. I have no idea where "miles" came from.

>>132370041
> your cars break down
the economic system demands that we build in these flaws. don't hate the player, hate the game.

>>132369224
Further more killing is half the logistical part of the process. Burning 6,000,000 bodies to pure ash is laughable dude.

Do you realize how much fuel and heat it would take to fire a room filled with 1000 dead bodies every day for 16 years?

You have shit for brains dawg. Do yourself a favor and get killed by a nigger

>>132368345
he made the argument in the op retard try responding to that

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>>132366855

OY VEY DELET THIS

>>132371798
>living till 101
>through the horrers of concentration camps
unlikely

>>132371646
How about he posts some proof for his claims?

That number isn't the jewish number. It's the total number including political prisoners, gays, retards, gypsies and communists.

>>132372589
No, 11 million is the total number

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>>132372589
No the official number is around 6 million jews + some dumb goyim who were allegaddly gassed and turned into lampshades or something

>>132372589
> t. holocaust denier
> including political prisoners, gays, retards, gypsies and communists
and war victims it's 50 million

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>>132368184
>logistically impossible to deport illegals?
very possible, and the money you save in the long term makes up for transportation costs

>>132369848
2 months --------------------> 1 million
4 years --------------------> x

x= 4 years * 1 million / 2 months

Make the math.

And let's not forget, the 1 million in 2 months were lowly illiterate negroes with rusty machetes. I'm pretty sure the master race could do much better

>>132366855
Look up khmer rouge

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>>132366855
oy vey. stop oppressing the 6 million who died. I can't believe you'd disrespect the 12 million. You know 24 million jews died in the holocaust right?

>>132366855
>500,000–1,000,000 Rwandans were killed during the 100-day period
>Germany high orderners and organization
> nu/pol: urr they cant kill 6,000,000 jew its impoziible!

>>132370279
I like your BMWs though. If you see what's his name, Beemermensch, in Deutschburg or wherever, tell him guten tag und nicht stoppen der Auto machen

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>>132366855
Do you realize how completely fucking retarded that argument is?

For one, the number of deaths could have been far more than 1000 perd, and it could have been to exhaustion, disease, starvation, etc.

Hitler's nation was the most advanced nation in the world at the time. You're telling me they can't exterminate tens of thousands of people per day?

Are you telling me that millions of people didn't die in famines because X amount of people supposedly died per day? Are you telling me the soviets didn't kill millions in Gulags?

If you're going to argue against the holocaust, at least do it right. Fucking retard.

Oh and yeah, 3 nukes can make 20 million people disappear in less than an hour. It's not that hard to do this shit. We're flesh and bones.

>>132366855
You are correct

>>132370430
>Do you realize how much fuel and heat it would take to fire a room filled with 1000 dead bodies every day for 16 years?
do you realize that they burned them in big piles on the open creating massive clouds of ashes after realicing that their massive graves would be imposible to hide from a hungry burger?

>>132373243
>>132372927
Med queers teaming up to push other bs stats.

>>132366855
Killing even 10000 per day is easy. The problem is what to do with the dead biomass that results. There is no adequate explanation for how that could have been done so as to leave no trace.

>>132373243
Funfact: the killed were put in lake victoria, feeding the high-priced brass in the lake.

#1 restaurants all over the world imported the fish: big aeroplane exports fish and imports weapons. There's a docu "darwin's nightmare".

>>132370430
The killing could be EASILY confirmed. Get your fucking arguments straight before spewing bullshit. You make yourself look retarded.

If you're going to argue about the burning, that's one thing, but trying to say that Germany under Hitler couldn't murder 11 million people if they wanted to is ridiculous. Also note that no one claims that all of those people were killed in gas chambers either. Other claims are the horrible conditions and brutality that led to death from disease, starvation, exhaustion, etc. That's another thing you need to take into consideration while trying to argue the numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=1DESqMz2k1g

muh 6 million

>>132366855
I am not allowed to comment on that.

>>132368962
>disposing the bodies
fuck it I'm spoiling it
>cannibalism

For those who believe in the holocaust, riddle me this: why did all camps, not just "death" camps, have large amounts of zyklon b? The canisters of zyklon are often pointed to as proof that there were gassings at death camps, yet there were canisters at every camp liberated. Why would there be used zyklon canisters at camps that never gassed people?

>>132366855
>16 years
Try 3, extermination camps were build starting 1942 according to official history™

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>>132369301
this

>>132366855
After looking trough some holocaust denial pages on Wikipedia, I came to the conclusion that all ''evidence'' is basically
>well they really didn't like the jews and they wanted to remove them!
Because they have nothing on paper.

Good to see the shills out in full force for this one. Pretending as if it would be "no big deal" to murder 6 million Jews without entire camps not knowing somehow. Also ignoring how they burned over 6 million bodies since every mass grave that has been investigated has yet to have turned up a single body.

But we know it happened, because the US found a few pair of shoes -_-

>>132374316
1945 doesn´t realy count either since germany was defeated in early may 1945 and didn´t controll much of its original territory at that point.
So 2 years would be the actual timeframe.

>>132374232
obviously to kill pests that cause disease. the Jews were used as forced labor. you don't want your workers dying from disease now do you?

>>132374060
Shit for brains. They never even tried to kill 6,000,000 jews

However the ones that did die completely deserved it. They fucked Deutcheland and Deutcheland fucked back

>>132374232
Because it's an agent to kill bugs. You might use it to clean up buildings from bugs or kill humans with it.
Dual-use. Ya know?

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>>132366855
Muh Holocaust is not real. Poland alone before war had 3 million jews, today it has them in thousands. Whole of Europe was full of jews now there are none

>>132374232
That's an easy answer for anyone you're trying to argue against. Here it is: The canisters of zyklon were put there as a measure to improvise and gas the prisoners if Hitler called for it. The gas was already there, so all they had to do was build the chambers to shove the people in. Hitler could have been, and most likely was planning to exterminate ALL of the prisoners he had, that's why the canisters were there.

Now... Find a different argument, maybe argue that the "chambers" or "showers" weren't fit to gas people. Even so, what's the end goal of this argument? Hitler's regime was still brutal to their prisoners. They made them sleep on wooden barracks in the fucking cold and treated them like animals despite them not even being criminals at all.

>>132374826
most Jews immigrated to the U.S and Israel post WWII.

they go were the shekels are Anon.

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>>132366855
Look I'm sick and tired of all these "did the holocaust happen" threads. The reality is we do not have the evidence to reach a conclusion. What we should do is round up about 60 000 jews and see how long it takes to get rid of them using the technology that the third reich possessed. Afterwards we can just calculate weather or not it was possible.

>>132366855
>One of the largest populations of the U.S. would literally have to disappear.
hold on a sec, jews are only 3% of the population in the US.

>>132373590
well i would like to point out that everyone in germany was struggling to feed themselves at the time, so it wasn't just the jews. with the trade restrictions on germany starvation was very tough to avoid for the average person, honestly if anything the most logical standpoint is starvation and typhus plus poor living conditions are what led to most of the deaths far more than the war crimes.

>>132374625
Indeed. When the US cracked the German communication codes, it presented a problem for the future. Mostly because there would have been numerous pages of evidence showing German death camps soldiers communicating / giving orders on when and how to kill the inmates. Except this was never found once. Not only that, but Germans were under strict rules to treat and feed inmates well.

Shills try to avoid and say "well they knew they might be spied on so they covered it up" which is bullshit. Because Germans didn't know their code had been cracked until around the end of the war. Long after a few million would have been murdered.

>>132374826
>Hitler's regime was still brutal to their prisoners
With the Auschwitz brothel and soccer team? And who the fuck cares if they were brutal with their prisoners-- everyone was. The Soviets tortured Germans, The Japanese used Chinese POWs as test subjects, The US vaporized thousands of civilians. War is shitty; I don't see why Hitler is seen as shittier than the rest.

Oy vey, da blood geysers from 1000 a day!

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>>132375076
I agree we'd learn a question we've been dying to know and kill some kikes at the same time!

>>132374721
It was used for delousing clothing. But it was found in approximately equal quantities at "death" camps and regular camps (of comparable population sizes). One would presume the mass quantities required to gas humans would result in more canisters being found at death camps.

>>132374739
I don't know if this is a shill trying to be smart, or a troll, or a genuine retard. Seeing Deus Vult, I am inclined to believe you are a retard.

>>132372758
Lmfao, I love this image

>>132375076
Just visit Auschwitz in deepest winter and you might imagine how easy it was to die there: malnutrition, gas chambers, inhuman housing, slave-workers,...

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>>132366855

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>>132366855
>not believing in futuristic space age crematorium and oven technology
ayyy lmao

>>132375258
This I can see. Famines have caused millions of deaths in the years leading up to the war, so this is very probable. And an argument to add is that the mass graves and crematoriums were a measure to get rid of the bodies. They couldn't just let them rot.

However, an arguement against it would be: It seems as though Germany had enough food for it's own people, howcome they didn't feed these "prisoners"?

One could argue that the allied forces were bombing supply lines to the camps, thus cutting off food.

Still, the conditions in these camps were terrible and the guards weren't nice to their prisoners at all.

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>>132366855

lol

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>>132366855

lel

>>132374635
Well near my home town there is like 5 or 6 mass graves from holocoust alone, but those was not only jews (well like 80 of them and 20 commies) ant is like than all over Lithuania

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>>132366855

kek

>>132375483
No, because "Zyklon B" is 22 times more harmfull to humans than to insects.

>>132373876
>it's hate facts!!!

>>132374232
>why did all camps, not just "death" camps, have large amounts of zyklon b?
Before being used in auschwitz in the gas chambers, Zyklon b was widely used in the delousing chambers

>>132374958
No, the vast majority of us jews emigrated from Imperial Russia before WW1

>>132375309
>the largest war in the history is being waged
>let's devote our resources intercepting and decoding civilian message

Thank god it wasn't you people in charge of the allies war effort

>>132376067
>translation of goebbels diary
post the german text

>>132375908
we'll never know for sure, any of the evidence has been tarnished by propagandists and zionists. we will never get down to the truth of what really happened and people will still be speculating hundreds of years to come.

>>132375908
>One could argue that the allied forces were bombing supply lines to the camps, thus cutting off food.
Then the camp guards would be starving too. Or the german populace around would be starving too.

But that is not what happened. German populace was remarkably well fed, taking in account the circumstances

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>>132375972
Now debunk this pls. And also lurk more.

>>132369301
ravioli ravioli show me the bodiolies

>>132366855
>It is simply, logistically, impossible.
sounds like a job for a German

>>132373979
kek, and /pol/ says niggers are stupid

>>132366855
History always repeats itself.
Throughout history we were always punished not by the goyim but by god.

>>132377275
This.
Sorry that it's going to go down like this Marsian. Maybe in time you'll learn to love difference and not crave the destruction of all.

>>132367216
>Skype shill

>>132377275
>the jewish victim complex
I shed a honest tear for you

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>>132366855
so u been sayin that WW2 would not have been possible either because like 80 million people died in just 5 years?

I mean that's like 45 THOUSAND per day.

The entire population of the Dallas, Fort Worth and Denton metroplex is 7 million.

One of the largest populations of the U.S. would literally have to disappear several times over.

Let that sink in. It is simply, logistically, impossible.

WW2 did not happen.

>stormweenies are actually this retarded
kill yourselves you dumb stupid retards

>>132378052
your pie chart is shit

>>132366855

The best thing jews ever invented was the holocaust.

>>132368498
If its 20 million killed that would leave the jewish population to -5 million after ww2

75 million people died in the war. This is a shit argument.

>>132366855
>Let's pretend Hitler started killing jews starting at 1919 (when Hitler joined DAP) and immediately started gassing jews. Even before becoming ruler.
>26 years
>6 million jews
>this means from day one he killed 230,769 a year.

Is this possible?

>>132378881
PS got the 26 years since he died in 1945.

1945-1919=26

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>>132366855
There were 4 gas chambers at Auschwitz that held over 2000 people each. They ran from th estart of '42 until the end of '44

>>132366855
>If Hitler killed 1000 Jews per day

Around 25 million soldiers died which means 114942 per day. 1000 a day doesn't seem unreasonable at all.

>>132376134
>>132376067
>>132375972
>>132375699
These are just
>your holocaust denying documents are fake!
>m-mine are real though!!!
Who the fuck am I supposed to trust?

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I'm just gonna dump a few.

>>132378993
That would mean that all 4 gas chambers would need to go off 750 times in 2 years.

>>132378701
Jews are not living beings

>>132379704
Therefore it's OK to hold people against their will even if they haven't broken the law?

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>>132367482
>>132366855
>logistically impossible
you are literally retarded
I'm not arguing whether it happened or not, just the fact that that's not an unrealistic number considering the fact that deaths don't come from execution alone. There is thirst, starvation, exhaustion, disease. Romanians were crafty with this. Just load them up in death trains that run around in circles for a week and let them suffocate.

>>132366855
>It is simply, logistically, impossible
you are logistically retarded

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>>132366855
Why are you nazis denying the jewish claims about the holocaust?Jews are known to be trustworthy and they would never use something like this to gain any advantage

>>132376134
Excuse my cherrypicking, but let's discuss that aerial photo at the top of your infographic. That photo is edited, and here's why. Look at the wall surrounding the Krema building. The wall is a solid black line with the same thickness all the way around. Seems unusual, huh? Shouldn't some parts look thicker because of the shadow create by the sun? The thickness of the wall suggests it is several inches-if not several feet-thick. Therefore, I highly doubt it's a fence. Yet if you look at the gate at the top of the image, it has the SAME thickness as the rest of the wall. That means the gate would have to be several inches or several feet thick as well. Imagine pushing that thing. The wall appears to be drawn on. The holes on the roof of the gas chamber look like blobs. This was probably drawn on. If even just one part of the photo is edited, the whole thing must be discarded as evidence.

>>132374826
>Football field
>Swimming pool
>Theater
>Cinema

yes very brutal "death" camp

Look the population of jews in europe in 1933 and look again in 1945. You will see that it stays above 15 million.

>>132379967
>wasting coal to drive around trains in circles
creative. laffin

>>132379967
yeah much of Europe came together for a common goal. Pity it was genocidal!

Now if only everyone applied that same thinking to the EU, we're golden.

At the main death camps of Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka, Jews were gassed. Treblinka was were most Jews were gassed and estimates are thought to be at about 700,000 victims in the 3-4 years that the facility was operating. Most Jews killed in the Holocaust were shot in Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine, not as victims of the gas chambers.

Read Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands. The book is about the atrocities that were committed by the USSR and Nazi Germany in Poland, Belarus, and the Ukraine, which includes people shot by the NKVD, starved by the Soviet government, Soviet POWs shot by the Nazis, farmers and citizens of Belarus shot by the Nazis, and the Jews killed by the Nazis or deported by the Soviets (more for being Poles than for being Jews).

Despite having a good chunk of the book devoted to the murder of Jews by the Nazis, a bunch of Jewish leaders denounced the book for "minimizing" the Holocaust but more Poles and Belarussians civilians died than Jews in WWII. It isn't about minimizing the Holocaust when numbers are backed up.

>>132379360
Lmao so WW2 only lasted 8 months??

Are you fucking retarded?

>>132380344
It's worth it for the lulz

>>132379683
And then burn all those bodies each day instantaneously

What a fucking joke

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What about the genocide in Rwanda? Niggers armed with nothing but machetes and radio managed to slaughter close to 1 million in the span of april-june.

If that is possible, it was certainly possible for an efficient state like Nazi Germany to kill 6 million people over 4 years or whatever

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>>132372271
here's a meme

>>132380440
No, mouse double click which added an additional zero.

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>>132380651
and another. I haven't saved too many

>>132380416
How many Poles did he say died? While many were killed, I doubt it was in the millions. Read this:
https://codoh.com/library/document/1459/

>>132379953
oh god lol

>>132380416
>> number isnt shocking enough after thorough research

>> MINIMALIZING ANTI-SEMITE!!!

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>>132373590
>>132378734
>>132379360
>>132379967

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>>132380390
>Pity it was genocidal!
It wasn't genocide for genocide's sake. It had a very clear, pragmatic, noble goal.

>>132378993
Post pics of gas chambers.
You won't because they don't exist
The (((restored))) chambers aren't even that big

>>132380691

>> 114942
>> added an additional zero
.......

>>132380698
Be careful when using that image, it's incredibly deceiving because it uses buildings to demonstrate size incompatibilities with a stadium rather than people. Most of the stadium is made up of concrete with a large open field in the middle rather than people. I wish there was a better image to demonstrate this point.

>>132380416
>20 jews per hour
>feelin awesom
can someone raise that?

>>132381031
250000000 instead of 25000000. Its not hard to understand

>>132371798

>nazis run out of gas
>they just let you go instead of shooting you on the spot

What nice guys

>>132381049
Its about the capacity of people the stadium holds weirdo. Stfu... The image is fine

>>132367216

There is no way they had enough fuel to dispose of that many bodies when we had cut off their supply lines.

>>132381198
Im starting to think youre just fucking with me.

25 million divided by 115k is roughly 217 days... Or a little over 7 months

>>132374060

There literally weren't that many Jews in Germany.

>>132374060

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

>>132379650
Not the Jews, never the Jews

>>132366855
Murrikan education everybody

>>132381304
The it should show masses of people, not the stadium buildings stacked on top of one another. The image is deceiving because it's using a building that is far larger than the amount of people it's designed to hold. There's all that concrete and empty space on the field you're not taking into consideration

>>132375908

There were piles of dead germans after WWII. They just circulated the pictures of the ones at camp. Most of the population starved during that time, and many of the citizens were later raped by Russian and American forces. I've known German survivors of that time. IT was not pretty. The Germans literally didn't have enough fuel to burn that many bodies. They were freezing to death and infected with typhoid by the end. In fact, even the number of ovens they had was much smaller than the number many modern day cities have to keep up with just the regular number of dead. By the end of the war everybody was dying, and there were many piles of dead bodies.

Don't you remember the prelude story to Silence of the Lambs, how Hanibals character watches his sister get eaten by starving peasants? That's the whole point of the later movies... he goes back and eats the people that ate his sister. Its amazing people think the germans were living in comfort during WWII. Their entire civilization was destroyed.

>>132381062
Most infographics about the Holocaust being fake posted here only use Auschwitz as an example, but Auschwitz was a concentration camp first and a gas chamber was added later, meaning it was a hybrid. Treblinka for example had gas chambers large enough to gas hundreds of Jews through Carbon Monoxide, then the bodies burned by placing bodies on train rails placed on concrete, and the bodies doused with petrol. Women and fatter people who burned faster due to the fat, were placed at the bottom to add to the fuel.

>>132380702
The book estimates a total (including Jews, Ukrainians, Poles, and Belarussians) of 14 million people killed who were non-combatants between 1936 to 1945. About 5-6 million were Jews, other 3 million were starved Ukrainians, victims of collectivization by Stalins programs, and the rest Poles and Belarussians. About 700,000 Poles were killed by the NKVD when the USSR invaded Poland in 1939. About 4 million Poles and Ukrainians killed/starved by German hunger policies.

>>132376795

Utter lies. The Germans were starved, freezing, and dying of Typhoid. This is a fact and talk to anybody that lived through it.

I've known people that lived through it.

FUCK OFF.

>>132366855
>If Hitler killed 1000 Jews per day
You say this like it would have been difficult. A thousand people a day wouldn't have been unfeasible even if Hitler himself were pulling the trigger on each one of them.

opey, can you imagine a side-by-side of Pigloser and Chucky the doll? Scary

>>132382287

Right. With all the fuel they had from their cut off supply lines. They didn't have enough fuel to warm themselves but they had enough to destroy evidence.

Weak nonsense.

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>>132382287
>German hunger policies
Do you mean like Generalplan Ost? I have some sources you should look at

http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/02/the-latest-effort-to-combat-denial-i-e-holocaust-revisionism/
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/19-s.pdf (pgs. 236-243)
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/28-tecoar.pdf (pgs. 168-192)

Metapedia is a shitty source, but please let me know what you think of this:
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

Also these Ukrainians fighting for Germany:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)

>>132381421
Because corpses aren't flammable?

Seriously though, you don't need a whole lot of fuel to burn corpses if you have a properly sealed chamber.

That being said, I'm not as studied on the whole issue as I would like to be so I'll acknowledge it's entirely possible that the number are exaggerated if not grossly so.

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tfw you question whether there is artificial intelligence at work

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>>132383109
It's not that easy

>stormfags prove once again that they can't into maths
wew

>>132383187
why did u connect the circles at a meaningless point

It's impossible to kill 100k+ japaneese in one day.

>>132381484
As I said I typed one 0 too much hence you need to move the result by one decimal place putting it at 11,5k per day and 2175 days.

>>132383345
I'm not saying it's as simple as lighting a match and tossing it in their general direction, but immolating a corpse is easier than you might think it is under good conditions.

>>132383109
Literally bags of moisture.

>>132382985
The idea of Generalplan Ost and the Final Solution was to conquer the Soviet Union and deport Jews and Poles to Siberia away from Europe. Originally, Hitler toyed with the idea of deporting all Jews to Madagascar but implementing that would be difficult when the Kriegsmarine was no match to the Royal Navy, thus the push to invade and conquer the USSR was made a priority.

When it became apparent that Operation Barbarossa was a failure, the Final Solution changed to the elimination of the Jews rather than deportation. Slavs were originally meant to be eliminated as well but due to the failure of Barbarossa and the lack of men to work the farms back home, Slavs (and then Jews near the end of the war) were chosen to become forced laborers.

Ukrainians were known to be forced to fight for the Nazis as their numbers fell to the Red Army as they were driven back west. They also consisted of the guards at the death camps, since they knew they would be shot either as POWs to the Nazis or as traitors by the paranoid Stalin. It was the same issue faced by partisans in Belarus, that the Nazis would shoot them for resisting and the Soviets would shoot them cause they would pose a danger to their regime for being able to resist.

>>132384354
See >>132384319

the holocaust didn't happend because in my mind it didn't happened.

>>132384534
What kind of conditions was that? 'Good' conditions. What's that, friend?

>>132385647
I know it's impossible to even imagine. Let alone actually happen.

Wasn't the argument that the holocaust happened but not in the way of 6billion jews being gassed but that American airplanes bombing trains to work camps that caused millions of people (not only jews but french, polish, P.O.W., etc) to die in camps?

>>132382379
>The Germans were starved
Where they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMLXpNtPsp8

>>132384354
>water doesn't evaporate

remind me the water boiling point?

>>132380651
wrong math.
>Let's say 2 hours
self assumption that it's 2 hours
>52 crematoria
assuming only aushwitz has them.
also assuming they all just died of being gassed/burned. some can die from hunger or diseases. stupidest shit ever you people are literally flat earthers

>>132385768
Pressurized chamber, well insulated chamber, high oxygen content, drained corpses, direct contact with fuel, high ambient heat.

A lot of these things aren't particularly hard to engineer for. Though again I'm not particularly familiar with the specs that the Nazi furnaces, the scale of their facilities, nor am I particularly familiar with their SOP for burning bodies so I can't make any claims so to what their operational capacity would have been.

That being said the numbers do sound high, though they're not particularly outrageous if they had efficient practices and good facilities. Either way I would have to know more to say anything with any sort of certainty.

>>132386134
It's a one of the pillars of the argument. It's the combination of every inexplicable and ignored detail.

>>132385768
prolonged exposition to high temperatures

>>132386134
>American airplanes bombing trains to work camps
This literally never happened. How the fuck would WW2 era bomber planes be able to hit a moving train, when they sometimes would miss a fucking city?

Are you retarded?

>american education

>>132386317
Sounds like a tedious process.

>>132386375
You'll need a great deal of fuel for those, prolonged temps.

>>132386423
Most of them are actually down to the engineering of the facilities.

The other things aren't that bad. Draining a corpse can be as simple of making a few incisions and hanging it over a gutter for a while.

>>132386528
A human body has more stored energy then coal. So after the body is dried out, it's a better fuel then coal.

>>132386778
>for a while
Time is money the the shoah! We'll have to speed it up, boyo.

>>132386375
No I'm not a Portuguese person. I was saying what I heard people arguing about. Calm down kiddo.

>>132386855
Yeah like damp wood takes forever to burn vs bone dry wood. I understand you!

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>>132366855

Who even cares whether the holocaust happened or not? Regardless Hitler did nothing wrong.

>>132366855
Killing a thousand people in a day is easy; it's disposing of the bodies that is not so easy

>>132366855
idk man those Germans build pretty great furnaces

>>132386966
That's the thing, you don't actually have to do anything while it's hanging you dork. So the person who's doing it is free to rack new corpses or unrack drained corpses or do something else in the meantime.

Do you think that when you order a meal at the restaurant the chef has to wait until your meal is cooked before they can start working on another meal?

>>132387065
But you are still retarded for believing such a retarded argument.

>a brutal war happening
>let's make or bombers have a 1000km trip in a effort to to hit a train loaded with civilians that has 0 military use for the germans
>this is totally reasonable in your mind

Maybe you shouldn't be parroting everything you hear from a online anonymous forum

>>132387582
I wonder if there's anything in the shoah museum about those hanging rack rooms.

>>132387652
Supply lines, smart ass. Not Jew carrying trains.

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>>132366855
also note that this is the fucking 40's we're talking about,
technology was shit !

>>132388004
Explain to me what you think supply lines are.

>>132387731
No fucking clue dude. Memeing me is literally pointless because as I said I have no clue what the facilities were like and as such I can't make any firm arguments here.

We didn't gas all of them. That just the combined number of victims. Many were worked to death and some starved.

>>132388440
Thousands of gallons of fuel. Thousands of kilos of food. Gallons and gallons clean water for drinking and sanitation of our supposed slaughterhouses.

Medicine. Ammo. Clean uniforms. Etc, etc.

Things necessary for survival.

>>132388726
Then shut up pay attention.

>>132388939
destined to the camps?

Can you show me a source of one train that was supposed to go to a camp that was destroyed by the allies?

That is supplies, not supply lines. You don't even know what a supply line is

>>132386191
Dude. That IS only about aushwitz. Can you read?

Who cares how they died the problem is how does one eliminate all that human remains?

I thought jews were smart?

>>132386855
>Human body has more stored energy than coal.

If you are going to just pull stuff out of you ass; then put your trip back on, natview, so I can filter you.

>>132389311
Yes. Destined to the camps. The work camps. The prison camps.

If you want to trust yer gut and believe that rail lines didn't get bombed. I guess that's your right.

But, the destruction of rail lines wasn't all we can rely on. As the war got closer to home, the camps stopped being stocked as well. Supplies dwindled. Prisoners stopped taking priority. Only takes a few weeks for people to start dying or abuse, dehydration, illness and sanitary conditions to breaking down.

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>>132368184
and yet... somehow, Hitler and his SS brass managed to kill and burn the remains of HALF THE CURRENT MEXICANS IN THE US to where no one can find anything other than their "piles of shoes"... WHILE FIGHTING A WAR ON TWO FRONTS AGAINST 6 OF THE MOST POWERFUL ARMIES ON EARTH.

seems.... legit.

>>132389017
To what?

I don't see any technical diagrams or SOP logs being thrown around. Nor do I see anyone directing me to any such resources, nor do I see anyone who can claim to be an expert on such things posting here.

So short of going out and doing the research on my own, which I will likley do at some point, literally all I can do is speculate.

>>132390077
>>132390362
I'll need to be seeing some of those super ovens. Or was it pits for burning?

And don't say they all got bombed to smithereens. We'll be needing one of these ovens.

>>132390858
Logic of volume. The sheer size of the supposed shoah is astronomical. We will marvel at it, if it really happened. Marvel like never before.

>>132366855
One of the biggest flaws in the story is that Hitler never authorised the use of gas on the battlefield. If he was fine with gasing millions of jews and slavs, why would he not be fine with gasing them on the battlefield where it would be much more useful? You could argue that if he used gas on the battlefield, the allies would use gas in retaliation, but if he was worried about that why would he take that chance by authorising its use in numerous camps? Surely the allies would take that as a legitimate sign to start using gas bombs against German civilians if they found out about it? It's nonsense.

>>132379704
why was there a brothel? Wouldn't a National Socialist aryan man denounce such degeneracy? that aint adding up desu

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>>132390916

If, for you, the <1 hour per body cremation rate at the Auschwitz ovens makes them "super ovens", then any modern crematory oven CAN become a super oven if it cremated several bodies at once as well. Too bad they don't, due to this thing called cremation rites and dignity of the deceased and other safety protocols.

>>132380698

1) Eric Hunt (creator of that image) is no longer a holocaust denier
2) No historian is claiming 900k bodies are still buried in Treblinka, therefore how much space a body takes up is irrelevant.
3) No historian is claiming all 900k bodies were once buried in Treblinka before the first exhumations began for cremation - they started while the killing operations were still going on, therefore said capacity was never reached.
4) As another anon pointed out, a stadium is one of the most area wasting methods to seat people and stacking them one atop another makes that even worse

>>132391151
I will say this ONE more time, just to make sure there is no room for you to misunderstand why I'm posting here.

The numbers do seem high, but they also seem like they are entirely within the realm of possibility considering the capacity of human ingenuity to allow us to achieve both great and terrible things.

That being said, I am unfamiliar with the specifics of how this particular feat would have been achieved if it was in fact achieved, and as such I will make no firm statment one way or the other.

Based on what I do know I can say that atrocities were committed here, however the scale is entirely up for debate and until I take the time to go over the available evidence properly all I can do is play the devil's advocate and speculate.

I would say that those who would say that such spectacular, and in this particular case terrible, feats are entirely impossible are entirely ignorant of human history.

no one has ever claimed that exactly 6 million jews were gassed and burnt up in the furnaces.

but at least 6 million definitely died from starvation and disease in the camps.

>>132382287
we fed jewish human flesh to the jews don't forget that. thats why you can never let the truth reach surface.

>>132392410
see >>132380416
the estimated total of Jews killed in the camps (both death and concentration) is about 3,000,000. Most Jews killed were shot. The death camps were set up around the time it became apparent Barbarossa failed.

>>132391181
> You could argue that if he used gas on the battlefield, the allies would use gas in retaliation, but if he was worried about that why would he take that chance by authorising its use in numerous camps? Surely the allies would take that as a legitimate sign to start using gas bombs against German civilians if they found out about it? It's nonsense.

And then if the Allies used gas against Germany and the Axis forces then Germany would start using gas against the Allies.

Besides that, there are plenty of instances where discretion is exercised insofar as determining what weapons are used in warfare where the same discretion is not used when determining what weapons can be used on civilians.

>>132367216
Technically every number is possible. We'll get 6,000,000 next time

>>132368184
This x 100

>>132368498
266 million to be historically accurate

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>>132366855
>It is simply, logistically, impossible.

You can't be this stupid, right?

Some dindus in Africa massacred Tutsi at a rate far more quick than the Holocaust. Are you implying that those Africans with some hatchets were more efficient then Germany at that time? They killed a million in a few months.

ITT: Holocaust deniers getting BTFO

>>132393032
I don't see the point in your post. Are you suggesting the allies wouldn't have utilised gas against the civilian populations they were already bombing with incendiaries if they found out Germany was utilising gas against interned civilian populations?

>>132386150
No he's right, you're a fucking moron. With family on both sides of the war, American and German, the Germans were indeed starving since everything was fucking BOMBED. Many people have stories like that in Germany.

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>one imgur gallery debunks everything on /pol/

http://imgur.com/gallery/725A7

>>132393586
>ITT
this happens in every thread. holocaust denial is pretty much just a meme. deniers (for the most part) don't actually deny it, they know it happened.

>>132394026
Holy shit, post this in every thread

>>132366855
Here's one.
The Holocaust we got over some remembered but time moved on some didn't but others did want to learn about it sure ok same with the rest of the genocides and God would say shush already!

>>132394047
Are you serious?

>>132393855
Yes, that's exactly what I am suggesting.

Because if the Allies started using gas on the Germans what's stopping Germany from retaliating and using gas on them?

It's a very good example of the principals of M.A.D. before the concept was popularized.

>>132394047
This, as I tell people who say /pol/ is full of Holocaust deniers who think that all the Jews & Co stayed at 6 star hotels for the duration of the war.

I would argue that most people on /pol/ would agree (if begrudgingly at times) that the holocaust happened, however there is no real consensus as to the exact bodycount and the veracity of the very popular 6m figure.

>>132386150
>Believing oldass propaganda
>Da joo lampshade!
They were called Arbeitslager for a reason. those things are MADE BY them but they're not MADE OF them
But who am I talking to...

>>132394047
I believe it happened but the numbers are greatly exaggerated. Honestly I wish Hitler had killed 20 million kikes but alas this reality is not so kind.

>>132393474
So where are all the bodies?

>>132394671
No I don't agree with that, they were put in concentration camps and starved to death along with typhus, there was no planned genocide for the end of Jews. Why the fuck would Hitler be sending them to Palestine or trying to get the Madagascar deal if he wanted them dead.

>>132394026
>not even a hundred of bodies on all of the images combined
>most of them are not jews
>muh six gorillion

Also tl;dr JIDF fag

>>132395068
tl;dr it debunks almost every denial infographic posted in these threads

>>132394671
Yes, I understand that. Of course the Germans would retaliate with gas, but they were at a huge disadvantage to get into chemical warfare against the industrially superior allies, especially by the later years of the war where they lost aerial superiority and German cities were routinely bombed. Why would they risk bringing it to that by killing millions using gas, they wouldn't. Göring even stated that had the allies used gas, the war would have been over years sooner as the Germans didn't even have gas masks for the horses that their transportation system relied on.

>>132373590

>Oh and yeah, 3 nukes can make 20 million people disappear in less than an hour. It's not that hard to do this shit. We're flesh and bones.

but hitler did not use nukes to kill the jews, he supposedly used zyklon b gas and ovens hence why its called the holocaust aka the great burning

>>132395241
Show me one picture with 200 dead Jews. One fucking picture.

>>132395507
>200 dead jews in one pic

Do you think that would've been possible in the 40's?

>>132395573

yes, considering there are pictures of hitler with crowds of thousands...

If 10 camps had 4 ovens each - in 4 years that assumes they loaded, burned and disposed of the waste ash of 14 bodies an hour.

They would have had to do this 24/7 for 4 years.

That is some insane efficiency.

>>132395016
Which is precisely why I said most people.

First off I'll say that I'm not convinced that the extermination portion of the Holocaust was Hitler's brainchild nor would I say that it was Hitler's baby. There were a lot of different hands in this pot, as such you can expect that there will be instances where the actions taken by a state are not always logically consistent.

That being said, I think that these actions could also be explained in a much simpler way. The end goal was not to exterminate the Jews & Co, it was simply to remove them from Europe by any means necessary.

As it happens killing someone is one of the many ways to "remove" someone from the continent.

>>132366855
I wish Hitler would've killed that many jews. It could have turned the tide for all of humanity. But tptb made sure that didn't happen and he got blamed instead for muh holohoax

>>132395757

all the shills saying "but muh starvation" - yes jews died from starvation, but the holocaust means the great burning of 60 million gorillian jews

not just dying in general because more people died in the war but muh goyim are obsessed with kissing jew feet because "6 million" died

i dont dispute his views on jews or that some died, that's obvious. but to the extent they claim and methods used is insane

>>132393971
The German civilians in that video do not seem to be starving. Some of them are even fat

>>132395507
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

Feel free to mve the goalposts in any way you want to

>>132366855
You know how easy it is to stave people out. You can en masse stave everyone at the same time.

>>132395458
So?

Regardless of who had the advantage the introduction of gas into the war would have likley resulted in more casualties on both sides. It was something neither side wanted to instigate for this exact reason.

Again, there are plenty of similar examples throughout history and in the present where governments use weapons on their citizens that they refuse to use on their enemies.

>>132395757
Only auschwitz had 54 ovens

>>132396208

yeah and chimneys that stood alone

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>>132395507
didn't count them but you have to admit it's more than a few...

>>132396370

1. how do you know they are jews?

2. looks like death from starvation not gassing, common in camps during times of war

3. this pic could be from anywhere, a gulag for all we know

>>132395830
>That being said, I think that these actions could also be explained in a much simpler way. The end goal was not to exterminate the Jews & Co, it was simply to remove them from Europe by any means necessary.
And you can easily do that once the war was won, instead of wasting valuable resources burning them you can simply kill them. I'll say it again there was no planned effort of any sort to kill Jews, If there was there was there wouldn't be a single survivor from a camp let alone camps in the first place, because then you would just beat them over the head and dump them in a hole creating masses of dead bodies all over Europe since why put ship them into a camp using very valuable train lines when they were almost out of supplies on the Eastern front .

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>>132395757

Auschwitz alone had more than 50 ovens.

>>132373590
Hitler's Germany was the most advanced, you're right, but in the years prior to him coming into power, Germany was enslaved in debt and literally committing suicide. So Hitler did what he knew had to be done, he threw out all the Jewish bankers and returned power to the people. One year after the unemployment numbers went from 7 million to 3.5 million in the first year. He gave German people pride, pride in themselves and their heritage. Why was that such a crime?

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Why are you guys even hating on (((them))), I've never encountered them annoying or anything. I don't understand. We should be hating on “The religion of peace” and muslims.

>>132395757
>implying you have to burn them to ash
30minutes at 250 degrees and they're tender

>>132373590
>comparing nukes to death camps

god you are retarded as fuck

>>132396470
>he doesn't know what babi yar is

Thos jews were shot.

What is the obsession stormtards have with gassing? No one ever claimed that the jews in that pic died of gassing, yet there as to be one stormnigger "proving" that they did not die in the gas chambers.

>already moving the goalposts

Here you will find plenty of those, each one of them sourced

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

>>132396687
Wrong idiot. Try hours in a modern crematorium for one body

>>132396674
Hate them both. Nothing says you can only hate one or the other.
The noses up themselves into positions of money and power then introduce suicide into the society, making it slowly kill itself.
The sandy porkers just run up and kill.

>>132396662
>One year after the unemployment numbers went from 7 million to 3.5 million in the first year.
He took jews and women out of the unemployment statistics. He also reinstated the draft.

He also forced the "work shy" to enter in forced labor programs.

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>>132366855
Here's some juicy facts that you won't be able to comprehend but they are true.

>A little less than 6 million Jews were killed in the holocaust
>12 million total "undesirables" were killed in the holocaust
>50 Million+ people died in WW2
But, yeah, because you can't count that high, it didn't happen, right Op?

>>132396836
Modern civilian crematoriums attempt to fully calcinate bone tissue for the aesthetics. Nazis didn't give a fuck about that. Modern civilian crematoriums attempt to fully separate the remains of different people. Nazis didn't give a fuck about that. Modern civilian crematoriums will only ever cremate one body at a time. Nazis don't give a fuck about that.

So you say the Nazi ovens weren't large enough to cremate more than one corpse at a time? The inner dimensions of the muffle were reportedly 70 cm wide and 80 cm high at the maximum (the top formed an arch), the size of the opening was 60 cm wide and high at the maximum (ATCFS, p. 377). Two average adults would have certainly fit on top of each other on the stretcher through the opening, also if two dehydrated, shrunken and somewhat displaced corpses were already in the inside. You could fit more if you include small, emaciated adults, and children.

Most of the burning of body material occurs within the first 20-30 minutes of cremation. It is possible to even add a new corpse after 20-30 minutes without removing the remaining body material of the previous corpse if you truly want to be efficient.

If you really think that the Holocaust, for which no Nazi offered denial when on trial and facing execution, is disproven by some back of the napkin arithmetic, and you really care about this issue, then take the precious time out of your life and read this:

http://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

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>>132396817

>>he doesn't know what babi yar is

soz i forgot a filename determines the origin of a picture

here's a rare auschwitz pic

>What is the obsession stormtards have with gassing? No one ever claimed that the jews in that pic died of gassing

no, but thats what the holocaust is all about. the systematic gassing and burning of jews

>yet there as to be one stormnigger "proving" that they did not die in the gas chambers.

hurdurr nobody can prove god doesnt exist!

>>132396674
One is the symptom one is the disease

A jew brings the Muslim to Europe, much the samw way aids lowers your immune system by anti-white propaganda then brings in the fatal disease the Muslims.

You are attempting very easy to spot jew right wing infiltration tactics, by passing the blame for Muslims immigrating in the first place onto Muslims Israel can gather enough support to create greater Israel and ensure both the far left and far right white mans parties are controlled. I can guarantee you've only been on /pol/ for a few months or a year if you think like that

>>132396189
How does examples throughout history counter anything? It has no relevance to why Germany would risk WW2 turning into a chemical war which they would be at a huge disadvantage. Churchill was in favour of using gas against civilians too.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoyFb3b4fbg

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>>132396470
pic is from a site that documents the massacre of jews at babi yar - i assume the bodies are those of murdered jews
pretty sure they were shot - not gassed or starved.
yeah, it could be from anywhere - it isn't though, it's from the state sanctioned massacre of jews at babi yar in ukraine.

>>132396482
Because if these prisoners resisted then it would lead to a lot of problems. Even against armed guards, emaciated or no it wouldn't be something they would be able to handle.

Also, are you familiar with how much time it takes to beat someone to death, even if you're being very efficient about it? Same deal with shooting them, hanging, ect.

This is why gas was ideal. You could very quickly kill a large group of people using only a small amount of resources without exposing any of your personnel to the threat of retaliation.

>>132397036

Prove it cuck

>>132396370
That's probably not Babi Yar, they're too much skinny.

>>132366855
>Hitler
>them

Are Americans really so cucked that they've started using they/them pronouns for everyone?

>>132397168

>state sanctioned

oh right that means it will be completely truthful

a few camp lovers were shot, yes, but the nazis realised that this had a bad effect on morale of the guards and it made them feel inhuman which is why they apparently started the gassing

>>132397036
It's a German city.

>>132397168

i didn't know much about babi yar, honestly, but im reading on jewpedia now and to me it seems like this wasnt a typical nazi thing

infact, the local police force and other forces assisted in this killing which is interesting

i haven't seen many mass graves of shot jews from those years, or any mass graves in any death camp desu. only seen them on propaganda films

>>132397185
Looking at the reverse search results it seems most of them say that it's Babi Yar. Though I'll admit that's not 100% concrete evidence.

>>132397091
image search leads directly to "Babi yar"

Just admit you don't know what Babi yar is.

> but thats what the holocaust is all about
According to stormtards. Everyone who gives 2 fucks about the holocaust and has 3 fingers of forehead knows that gassing is just a part of holocaust.
The most famous movies about holocaust do not even portrait gas chambers

That leads to the question, why are stormtards so obsessed with gas chambers?

>>132397173
And not to mention the mental repercussion on the soldiers who actually had to shoot the jews.

>>132397173
Whats more efficient for the legendary German war machine

Shooting a bunch of Jews when you find them
vs
Finding Jews rounding them up transporting them on trains desperately needed on the eastern front,putting them in camps, by survivor stories potentially for a extended time, meanwhile feeding them supplies needed all the while, then off to a chamber only for this to happen at such a huge rate and for them to burn bodies so well they simply vanished off the face of the Earth

>>132397856
>trains desperately needed on the eastern front
>Implying Polish trains could fit Soviet rail

t. armchair historian

>>132397856
I think you're forgetting about the PR aspect of this as well.

The Nazi party did a lot of work to try to spin the whole thing as simply taking these people to camps and trying to enrich their lives. That's why you see all the shit about these camps having regular movie showings, rabbit fucking pits, and liquid gold fountains.

>>132397834
OK I can see about 60 bodies there. Where's millions more? Like I said you dumb JIDF kikes don't even have one picture with 100 dead Jews. Lol just fuck off back to Faceberg.

>>132397834

i'm not a stormtard, i am critical. i see flaws in what i was taught as a kid about hitler and ww2 in general

read >>132397777 and check it, i didnt know much about babi yar but you should also be critical of photos. if a photo was staged or taken and spread around pre-internet as a babi yar incident then ofc image search of today will believe it is so. my point is its very easy to fake/stage these kinds of things back then thinking about it

not all history in books and photos is what they say it is. maybe you are right, i have nothing to doubt the origin of your photo specifically

>The most famous movies about holocaust do not even portrait gas chambers

incorrect, every film i've watched such as schindlers list has "shower" scenes and crematoriums.

The use of extermination camps, or death camps, equipped with gas chambers for the systematic mass extermination of people was an unprecedented feature of the Holocaust. They were built for the systematic purpose of killing millions of people, primarily by gassing.[40] Stationary facilities built for the purpose of mass extermination resulted from earlier Nazi experimentation with poison gas during the secret Action T4 euthanasia programme against mental patients.

source: jewpedia

not sure why you think its only stormtards?

>>132398053
>Supplies magically get from Germany to Russian rails

A train that uses a German rail to transport jews or food supplies to the Jews is a supply train not traveling to Poland

>>132397856

Your entire argument is based on your ignorance of how the camps operated. For example, the people sent to the camps were gassed immediately unless they were selected for work. Read something about the holocaust, then talk.

>>132398326

so why was there swimming pools, entertainment and brothels if death if your goal?

>>132398210
Where are the 60 million bodies from all the WW2 causalties?

There are tens of thousands of bodies here
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

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>>132398210

>>132366855
Hitler is fucking terrible then.

>>132398441

You are mixing death camps, work camps and denialist bullshit together. I mean, do you really believe that the nazis set up brothels for the Jews in concentration camps?

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>>132398551
>>132398210
>>132398453

heres an official death toll btw

the number has gone up and down throughout the years and for some reason people are settling on 6 million

>>132397091
>no, but thats what the holocaust is all about. the systematic gassing and burning of jews

lmao what the fuck is this weak shit, nigga

>Some definitions of the Holocaust include the additional five million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, bringing the total to about 11 million.

>From 1941 to 1945, Jews were systematically murdered in one of the deadliest genocides in history, which was part of a broader aggregate of acts of oppression and killings of various ethnic and political groups in Europe by the Nazi regime.

4 years = 1,460 days
1,460 days = 35,040 hours
35,040 hours = 2,102,400 minutes

11,000,000 killed divided by 2,102,400 minutes = 5.2321156773 Killed a Minute. Five deaths a minute, 1.25 deaths every 15 seconds.

>Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin.

>In “Europe A History,” British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties.

29 years = 10,585 days
10,585 days = 254,040 hours
254,040 hours = 15,242,400 minutes

50,000,000 killed divided by 15,242,400 minutes = 3.280323308665302 Killed a Minute. Three deaths a minute, 1 death every 20 seconds.

>The Chinese Communist Party came to power in China in 1949 [...and ended in 1976], when Chinese communist revolution ended a long and bloody civil war between communists and nationalists.

>The first large-scale killings under Mao took place during land reform and the counterrevolutionary campaign. In official study materials published in 1948, Mao envisaged that "one-tenth of the peasants" (or about 50,000,000) "would have to be destroyed" to facilitate agrarian reform.

27 years = 9,855 days
9,855 days = 236,520 hours
236,520 hours = 14,191,200 minutes

50,000,000 divided by 14,191,200 minutes = 3.523310220418287 Killed a Minute, 1 death every 20 seconds.

>Hitler = 5.2321156773 KpM
>Mao = 3.523310220418287 KpM
>Stalin = 3.280323308665302 KpM

Reminder Hitler killed 2 more people a minute in 4 years, with only 8 death camps, than Mao or Stalin, which had entire countries.

>>132397794
Also Babi Yar was a big natural pit, this looks more like a burial trench.

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>>132398740

Nice try

>>132398708

>do you really believe that the nazis set up brothels for the Jews in concentration camps?

>The first camp brothel was established in Mauthausen/Gusen in 1942. After 30 June 1943, a camp brothel existed in Auschwitz, and from 15 July 1943, in Buchenwald. The one in Neuengamme was established in early 1944, Dachau's in May 1944, Dora-Mittelbau's in late summer, and Sachsenhausen's on 8 August 1944.[4] There are conflicting dates for the camp brothel in Flossenbürg: one source claims summer 1943;[5] another states it was not opened until 25 March 1944

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_camp_brothels_in_World_War_II

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>>132398740
Cool, here's an official record that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that nobody died on the Titanic :^)

>>132398873

feel free to find me a credible source on the actual figures

>>132398922

i never said nobody died, i just dont believe 6 million jews died for various reasons

>>132398334
>Only half of the supplies required for the front can be shipped on Russian rails at a time
>German/Polish rails still sending all the supplies required
>Magically a huge glut of supplies doesn't form
Fewer trains available in Russia means fewer rails needed to be sent through Poland to ship supplies
Germany mainly relied on horses and trucks anyway

Also the food supplies sent to Jews were miniscule, thus all the starvation. Almost all food supply went to camp staff, kapos and Western Allied prisoners.

>>132398770

are you telling me the holocaust is not associated with systematic murder by gassing and burning?

>what the fuck is this weak shit, nigga

this kind of degenerate response has no argument

>>132398303
>if a photo was staged or taken
Then prove it or stfu.

> my point is its very easy to fake/stage these kinds of things back then thinking about it
>everything that goes against my worldview is fake

>incorrect, every film i've watched such as schindlers list has "shower" scenes and crematoriums.

Out of the 3 most famous holocaust movies (that i know) only 1 portraits gas chamber (Boy in striped pijamas). The other 2 (Schindler list and The Pianist) do not portrait gas chambers

>the rest of your post
What is your point?

>>132398441
the swimming pool was for the camp guards (such a small pool was not for 50 thousand prisioners, obviously).

entertainment was of remarkably low quality and destined to the forced labor convicts.

Brothels were for the forced labor convicts pleasure. The women were ugly.

>>132399048
>i never said nobody died, i just dont believe 6 million jews died for various reasons
Oh, that's totally fine dude. Like I said earlier in the thread the figures are up for debate.

The reason I posted that it to show that primary sources are often inaccurate or incomplete.

>>132398453
Yeah, lots of jews were killed, I just dispute the 'facts'. I don't beleve the Nazis killed people by putting them in mine carts and giving them a rollercoaster ride into ovens. I don't believe the Nazis killed people by inflating them till their bowls ruptured. I don't believe the Nazis tortured people with some kind of masturbation machine. I don't believe the Nazis used diesel to power gas machines, and to that end I believe that what they actually did was that not that bad, it was a fucking war. Wars aren't all flowery and lovely. America was at war for 3 years, and wasn't even under siege. Imagine what America would have done to Japs if they shared a border, and were being invaded. The British starved upwards of 4 million Indians to death.

Who gives a shit about it, war turns nations evil. Why do people have to make up bullshit about how 'ebil' the Nazis were? So they can feel good about their current geopolitical positions? Fuck them.

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>>132398740
>posting easily debunked shit

Are you running out of arguments there?

Is this the part in that you start bitching about the burden of proof or calling me a jew?

>>132399174

>Schindler list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy8Z1hK2wY

why are they scared when put in the showers? because they thought they were getting gassed

>the rest of your post
>What is your point?

my point is that the holocaust had systematic gassing of jews which apparently didnt happen? you think they were just all shot or something?

>>132398886

Did you even read the page?

>The brothels were open only in the evenings. No Jewish male prisoners were allowed as patrons. Those with access to the customer lineup (Aryan VIPs only), had to sign up for a specific day and pay two reichsmarks for a 20-minute "service" based on a predetermined schedule. The women were matched with clients by an SS-man. The market for the "prize-coupons" was routinely cornered by the common criminals who wore the green triangles (hence the "green men" denomination).[1]

>>132397856

well, since the jews were considered to be enemies of the state it made sense to put a fair bit of effort into exterminating them. also, you got a fair bit of slave labour out of them before killing them - good for the war effort, no ? it's not like those selected for labor instead of death were given four star accommodation in the camps either. barely above starving i'd imagine, just enough to stay alive and be of use.
you'd also get all their confiscated property and personal belongings, could use the "leftovers" also - shaved of hair was used to make textiles or insulation for u boats.

>>132399190

i haven't found a reliable source on either side of the debate for real figures, and it's so fucking annoying because im accused of being a stormfag for even discussing it

on /pol/ or real life

>>132399338

so are you telling me that around 5.7 million non germans were in german camps?

>>132380961
Its funny that you use this pic because Trump is Israels greatest ally

>>132372758
>a very pretty 3-year old daughter
Globalists everyone

>>132399174
>The other 2 (Schindler list and The Pianist) do not portrait gas chambers
Schindler list does, but it eventually happens to be a real shower (stupid scene).

>>132399551
>>i haven't found a reliable source on either side of the debate for real figures

How many books on the topic have you read?

-=- Challenge to all Holocaust supporters -=-
Imagine an alien ship just land on Earth for the first time and you were tasked with proving that the Holocaust happened exactly as it was said to have happened with the systematic murder of 6 million Jews in oven and gas chambers.

- What evidence would you show them?
- How would you prove to someone who does not care or has no emotional reaction to the death of Jews?
- Websites like wikipedia and reddit discussions are NOT sources of proof.
- The books sold in the gift shop outside of Auschwitz is NOT a unbiased source of information.
- Hitler or any other Nazi propaganda talking about how the Jews are a treat to society is NOT proof the Holocaust happened.
- Using famous people like Henry Ford's book set "The International Jew : The World's Foremost Problem" is NOT a source of proof that the world wanted the Holocaust so it must have happened.
- Calling the person who questions the Holocaust a "Nazi" or using ad hominem attacks are not acceptable.

-=- Super Challenge Mode -=-
Why should anyone care that the Holocaust happened?

- Non-emotional answers.

>>132399424

yeah i did, but at the start it contradicts itself

>In World War II, Nazi Germany established brothels in the concentration camps (Lagerbordell) to create an incentive for prisoners to collaborate, although these institutions were used mostly by Kapos, "prisoner functionaries" and the criminal element, because regular inmates, penniless and emaciated, were usually too debilitated and wary of exposure to Schutzstaffel (SS) schemes. In the end, the camp brothels did not produce any noticeable increase in the prisoners' work productivity levels, but instead, created a market for coupons among the camp VIPs.

it implies that to begin with atleast they were used by the prisoners too.

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>>132399193
>I don't beleve the Nazis killed people by putting them in mine carts and giving them a rollercoaster ride into ovens.
Neither anybody with over 70 points of IQ

But go ahead and focus on that unsourced infographs

>all that whataboutism

>>132399338
>oy vey the post
Jews proclaim that the Nazis cremated 1.1 million people at Auschwitz. A modern crematorium can burn through one body at the longest in three hours. Let's say the Nazi ovens were capable of going full-tilt 24/7, 365 days without maintenance (they couldn't) and were modern ovens (they weren't).

Do you want the math? :^)

>>132399641

books often have bias, and from what ive read there are conflicting "eye-witness" accounts too

i've read jewish sources claiming 4 million, some claiming 8 million or something crazy... then theres the 6 gorillian figure

feel free to suggest some good, non-biased books

>>132399703

Yes, but not the Jews. You are aware of the fact that the camps had non-jewish prisoners as well, right?

>>132399641
>deniers
>reading books

Good one

>>132398831
N I C E

>>132399551
Yea I'm kind of in the same boat, it's really hard to find concrete information about this shit so I generally don't make any hard and fast claims as to what happened.

Feel free to look at my ID and you'll see that I generally just try to talk in terms of what could have happened and what's possible while being very careful not to make any definitive statements as to what did happen.

>>132399871

Where did you see the claim that 8 million Jews died?

fun fact:

cremating a body doesn't just burn it up and turn it into ashes.

Everyone assumes that's what happens because when we "cremate" somebody today you get an urn of their "ashes". So people assume "oh cremation = burning the body = pile of ashes"

when you cremate somebody the soft tissues burn away... but bones do not. You can not incinerate bones down to ash.

When people today get cremated they are placed in an oven and the body burns away, but the bones remain.

These bones are then placed in a GRINDER and turned to dust

So that urn of "ashes" is actually ground up bone dust

Nazis couldn't just place 6 million bodies into ovens and incinerate them and that be the excuse for no mass graves

You would still have bones

Unless they had large scale grinders in place as well

Which they didn't... they only had "ovens" (which would leave a 6 million people's bones left to be buried or deposed of in some way... it's almost as if these "ovens" were used for burning things such as louse infested clothing..... hmmm.....)

>>132399944

It's not nice, it's retarded. See >>132393474

>>132399902

yes... my point still stands if you aim to kill those in death camps why have brothels?

>>132399338
this """brit"""" has been getting btfo so hard so many times here. i'm convinced that he's either retarded or just shitposting.